Kanji to Kana: Sabaku no Gaara

Just Some Guy · 04-24-2006, 02:35 AM

Wondering if I can get a hiragana translation of the following kanji:

瀑

This is the second kanji from 砂瀑の我愛羅 (Sabaku no Gaara). When I put it into a kanji to kana converter or the Babel Fish translator, this kanji is always left un-translated which leaves me even more curious. Mainly I've just been trying to figure out how to type the names using the Windows IME, hence the converter. So far I've got:

Japanese: 砂瀑の我愛羅
Romanization: suna [?] no ware ai ra (suna [?] no ga ai ra)
Meaning: sand [?], self love [?] of
Wikipedia Translation: Gaara of the Sand Waterfall

With this I can type all but the second character. Can't say I really understand how suna [?] becomes sabaku or ware ai ra becomes Gaara though unless there's some odd rule I haven't learned yet. And I'm also I'm not getting the meaning of Gaara or why it's not romanized as Gāra either though I suspect this is due to some databook spelling.

Edit: Hmm... I just realized ga produces the same kanji as ware so that might help explain Gaara.

Yoshitsune · 04-24-2006, 02:55 AM

瀑 is pronounced "baku" meaning waterfall, found in the word bakufu (waterfall), here the word Sabaku means sand waterfall, but the word for desert in Japanese is also sabaku but with a different kanji.

so:
砂(sand)瀑(waterfall) - Sa baku = sand waterfall
砂(sand)漠(wide) - Sa baku = Desert

Japanese kanji can be pronounced many ways, so 砂(sand) can be suna. But depending how it's used, by itself, it's suna, with something else it can be sa, or sha.

我愛羅 - self, love, last kanji in the word carnage

His name literaly means a self-loving carnage, and again, kanji have diff pronounciations so,
我 - ore, or GA
愛 - ai, or A as well since it's a stem from that sound
羅 - RA meaning silk but from word 修羅 (shuura - carnage)

Just Some Guy · 04-24-2006, 05:28 AM

Ah, a very informative reply. The word I had for waterfall was taki which wasn't getting me anywhere; it seems bakufu is a less common synonym that I would have never found on my own. I also would have never guessed at shuura. Been running into similar oddities since translating other kanji names like Hitsugaya Toushirou and (Kurosaki) Ichigo. So tough. >_<

Anyway thanks for the info. :p

marora · 04-24-2006, 09:22 PM

wow. the two of you have convinced mw to take japanese classes at my local comunity college.

The Black Knight · 04-24-2006, 09:59 PM

I was gonna say the same thing. sabaku meaning desert is written as 砂漠

Yoshitsune · 04-24-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by marora

wow. the two of you have convinced mw to take japanese classes at my local comunity college.

aww, awesome! It's really worth it, since it's not too hard to learn and it's a fun language to learn!

The Black Knight · 04-25-2006, 05:53 PM

yeah speaking is a piece of cake.........Writing is what makes it one of the most complex languages (to write) in the world.

Yoshitsune · 04-26-2006, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumike-kazuo

yeah speaking is a piece of cake.........Writing is what makes it one of the most complex languages (to write) in the world.

Well speaking is kind of like writing if you think of the words in your head before you say them. You write them in your head, and then spew them out sometimes, so you do need to sort of know what your structure will be before you say it.

The Black Knight · 04-26-2006, 02:25 AM

I'm not neccesairly talking about structure but more with the kanji-kana combinations and readings, that can sometimes get confusing.

04-24-2006, 02:35 AM	#1
Just Some Guy Light Yagami Academy Teacher Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Splendora, Texas, United States of America Posts: 360	Kanji to Kana: Sabaku no Gaara Wondering if I can get a hiragana translation of the following kanji: 瀑 This is the second kanji from 砂瀑の我愛羅 (Sabaku no Gaara). When I put it into a kanji to kana converter or the Babel Fish translator, this kanji is always left un-translated which leaves me even more curious. Mainly I've just been trying to figure out how to type the names using the Windows IME, hence the converter. So far I've got: Japanese: 砂瀑の我愛羅 Romanization: suna [?] no ware ai ra (suna [?] no ga ai ra) Meaning: sand [?], self love [?] of Wikipedia Translation: Gaara of the Sand Waterfall With this I can type all but the second character. Can't say I really understand how suna [?] becomes sabaku or ware ai ra becomes Gaara though unless there's some odd rule I haven't learned yet. And I'm also I'm not getting the meaning of Gaara or why it's not romanized as Gāra either though I suspect this is due to some databook spelling. Edit: Hmm... I just realized ga produces the same kanji as ware so that might help explain Gaara. __________________ Know that nothing is impossible; it is merely a matter of difficulty. proprietary avatar & signature rating system: I just made up this system to ensure that my signature ratings are a bit more consistent. Ten numbers seems a bit broad and if you give anyone below a 5:10 in such a system they tend to get snappy. So... 1:5 there are serious problems that need to be addressed 2:5 below average but passable; keep at it :p 3:5 it's okay but could use something to give it more flair 4:5 one of the better creations out there but still room for improvement 5:5 exceptional presentation; any problems there might be are very minor

04-24-2006, 02:55 AM	#2
Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic Legendary Ninja Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mt. Coronet Posts: 4,623	瀑 is pronounced "baku" meaning waterfall, found in the word bakufu (waterfall), here the word Sabaku means sand waterfall, but the word for desert in Japanese is also sabaku but with a different kanji. so: 砂(sand)瀑(waterfall) - Sa baku = sand waterfall 砂(sand)漠(wide) - Sa baku = Desert Japanese kanji can be pronounced many ways, so 砂(sand) can be suna. But depending how it's used, by itself, it's suna, with something else it can be sa, or sha. 我愛羅 - self, love, last kanji in the word carnage His name literaly means a self-loving carnage, and again, kanji have diff pronounciations so, 我 - ore, or GA 愛 - ai, or A as well since it's a stem from that sound 羅 - RA meaning silk but from word 修羅 (shuura - carnage) __________________

04-24-2006, 05:28 AM	#3
Just Some Guy Light Yagami Academy Teacher Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Splendora, Texas, United States of America Posts: 360	Ah, a very informative reply. The word I had for waterfall was taki which wasn't getting me anywhere; it seems bakufu is a less common synonym that I would have never found on my own. I also would have never guessed at shuura. Been running into similar oddities since translating other kanji names like Hitsugaya Toushirou and (Kurosaki) Ichigo. So tough. >_< Anyway thanks for the info. :p __________________ Know that nothing is impossible; it is merely a matter of difficulty. proprietary avatar & signature rating system: I just made up this system to ensure that my signature ratings are a bit more consistent. Ten numbers seems a bit broad and if you give anyone below a 5:10 in such a system they tend to get snappy. So... 1:5 there are serious problems that need to be addressed 2:5 below average but passable; keep at it :p 3:5 it's okay but could use something to give it more flair 4:5 one of the better creations out there but still room for improvement 5:5 exceptional presentation; any problems there might be are very minor

04-24-2006, 09:22 PM	#4
marora kapamaki Genin Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: somewhere in what is called the prospective mind Posts: 142	wow. the two of you have convinced mw to take japanese classes at my local comunity college. __________________ "you are braver than me... becuase even with a broken heart you smile."

04-24-2006, 09:59 PM	#5
The Black Knight Nantekotta? Jounin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,549	I was gonna say the same thing. sabaku meaning desert is written as 砂漠 __________________ ~TBK always triumphs!

04-25-2006, 05:53 PM	#7
The Black Knight Nantekotta? Jounin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,549	yeah speaking is a piece of cake.........Writing is what makes it one of the most complex languages (to write) in the world. __________________ ~TBK always triumphs!

04-26-2006, 02:25 AM	#9
The Black Knight Nantekotta? Jounin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,549	I'm not neccesairly talking about structure but more with the kanji-kana combinations and readings, that can sometimes get confusing. __________________ ~TBK always triumphs!