Orochimaru vs. Voldemort

Literally Exaggerated · 05-11-2005, 08:40 PM

Orochimaru - incredibly brilliant student of the most powerful and knowledgeable Ninja in the village, Sarutobi. Popular, decorated, hero of his village. But far too ambitious, became obsessed with immortality, fled the village and resurfaced years later after lots of research into forbidden death techniques, leader of his own village, the Sound. Has black hair, pale skin, and a face and eyes that resemble those of a snake. Knows tons of jutsus related to snakes, as well as lots of immortality and death related jutsus.

Voldemort - incredibly brilliant student of the most powerful and knowledgeable Wizard in the world, Dumbledore. Popular, decorated, handsome, was named head boy and awarded medals for his bravery. But far too ambitious, became obsessed with immortality, disappeared and resurfaced years later after lots of research into forbidden dark magic, leader of his own group of followers, the Death Eaters. Formerly had black hair, has pale skin, and a face and eyes that resemble those of a snake. Knows tons of spells related to snakes, as well as lots of immortality and death related magic.

C'mon, with this many similarities, this fight was inevitable.

their powers:

Orochimaru - fast, powerful fighter, though not the best at hand to hand combat. Can resurrect people to fight for him, knows a ton of combative jutsus, many of which utilize snakes. Can summon the huge snake Manda, which is basicallly a completely fucking humungous talking snake. Brilliant, but often too arrogant.

Voldemort - doesn't know shit about hand to hand combat, actually has achieved an immortality of sorts which means he can't be killed by any known means. Knows a ton of combative magic, including Avada Kedavra, which killls anyone it hits instantly. Can control any snake merely by talking to it. Can control the Basilisk, a huge snake that is smaller and stupider than Manda, but instantly kills anything that looks into its eyes. Can apparate at will (i.e. he can teleport like Yondaime, only doesn't need any kunai) Brilliant, but often too arrogant.

Who would win in a fight?

And what about if they had their followers?

The Sound - a couple weak ass genins which use vibration, the sound 5 which have an assortment of odd, specific powers, plus Kabuto, the brilliant, jounin level medical nin.

The Death Eaters - Some dozen or so wizards, all of whom can teleport and use avada kedavra, the death spell. On the down side, they don't seem to know much about hand to hand combat and aren't that fast.

My take:

Voldemort completely owns Orochimaru. Not only can he instantly kill Orochimaru with one spell, and not only can he teleport, but he can also control any of those snakes Oro summons, just by talking to them.

the Death eaters lose to the Sound however. Though they can teleport and kill with one spell, they also don't seem to be good enough at aiming or anything to hit most of the soun.

Sephero · 05-11-2005, 09:33 PM

Orochimaru will choke him with his tongue.

**Kunoichi no Kiri** · 05-11-2005, 09:38 PM

Seriously, wizard powers rely on your opponent to be limited to human speed and strength. A normal human can dodge Avada Kedavra. Orochimaru wouldn't even have to think about it.

Orochimaru takes this with a kunai.

Although The Death Eaters vs. The Sound, "The Sound" meaning the sound 5 and Kabuto, might be about fair.

Well, not really. But The Death Eaters would get a couple.

Raspeh · 05-11-2005, 10:23 PM

Gee, I wonder where you got this idea... lol..

Ninja Genius · 05-12-2005, 03:28 PM

Hm, I'm starting to actually think now that Naruto was inspired somewhat by Harry Potter...

r_aussie · 05-20-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Genius

Hm, I'm starting to actually think now that Naruto was inspired somewhat by Harry Potter...

so... maybe naruto is a half-blood or something like that?
or maybe harry potter has some legendary wizard living within him haha.
or dumbledore is a damn pervert >_<

The Wanderer · 05-20-2005, 02:17 AM

Dumbledore a pervert ?? nahhh . . . he looks too . . .hmm . . . "goody-goody"

And Orochimaru would smoke Voldemort in a flash, since he could easily dodge Avada Kedavra (I think he would Kawarimi to safety) and before Voldemort recovers, *Slash* *Slash*, Voldemort would be decapitated in a flash. Orochiamru has not only his jutsu, but his fast and strong as well, while Voldemort is a complete loser in CQC . . .

I don't think Manda would listen to Voldemort, He would go "Are you talking to me !!?? Are you on crack !!?? You pesty snake wannabe !! Get lost loser !! Die !!" Or something like that . . .

Miderauchi no Hitokiri · 06-23-2005, 11:29 PM

you know...I have wondered about this when I compared Voldemort to Orochimaru ever since I first got an understanding of the two. Think about it aveda kedavra needs willpower. All Orochimaru has to do to diminish his willpower is to show hm that creepy tongue. Also Orochimaru is a ninja for crying out loud. He moves pretty damn fast enough to dodge any other offensive spells. Also just destroy the wand and Voldemort is dead.

Note: Kishimoto would have released something called Magic Mushroom, but it would seem like he bited off of JK Rowling. I think Naruto was before Harry Potter, wasn't?

Code · 06-24-2005, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Miderauchi no Hitokiri

you know...I have wondered about this when I compared Voldemort to Orochimaru ever since I first got an understanding of the two. Think about it aveda kedavra needs willpower. All Orochimaru has to do to diminish his willpower is to show hm that creepy tongue. Also Orochimaru is a ninja for crying out loud. He moves pretty damn fast enough to dodge any other offensive spells. Also just destroy the wand and Voldemort is dead.

Note: Kishimoto would have released something called Magic Mushroom, but it would seem like he bited off of JK Rowling. I think Naruto was before Harry Potter, wasn't?

Harry Potter was before Naruto...

Orochimaru diminishes his willpower by showing him the tongue? Hmm... Voldemorts turns into giant snakes....

And about the person saying wizard powers require the person to be human speed. Well if you read the end of Book 5. Both Voldemort and Dumbledore were constnatly appearing and dissapearing the blink of an eye. Flying, doing fancy stuff. Torturing with a point. Making giants statues move alive in an instant...

Well personally I'd say Voldemort. The curses aren't slow to the point of having to defeat people that pop in and out places constantly. So no Orochimaru won't be so fast that he will dodge everything.

۩ReYmДN-dono۩ · 06-24-2005, 12:16 AM

oro eats volder end of story

Miderauchi no Hitokiri · 06-24-2005, 12:37 AM

creepy thing is ...I can see that happening

Lord Yu · 06-24-2005, 12:43 AM

I see oro "killing" voldemort with a kunai. or biting his neck off or something like that.

Code · 06-24-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Yu

I see oro "killing" voldemort with a kunai. or biting his neck off or something like that.

... Yes Voldemort going down with a kunai... I wonder why a wizard didn't just grab a gun and shoot Voldemort and stop mass killings...

He can dissapear behind Orochimaru before Orochimaru even realizes he has that ability(and certainly before anyone here actually read the end of book 5 which is the only time we've seen "high levell deuling" and Voldemort at full power actually fight.)

raoul2000 · 06-28-2005, 01:32 PM

Right, he survives the Death curse, something that instantly kills anything it touches, and then he is killed by a Kunai...talk about nonsense!

But heh, what would you expect when posting this in the NARUTO forums?!

KuwabaraTheMan · 06-28-2005, 01:55 PM

Voldemort's immortal, can kill you just by pointing at you, and can apparate and disapparate instantly.

akina uchiha · 06-28-2005, 08:13 PM

i completely 110% think that orochimaru would win . Only because orchimaru has ninja power muhahaha which rocks by the way and his super long tounge .

sasukecopyninja · 06-28-2005, 08:19 PM

ORO wins without even using more then his one finger

Skida386 · 06-30-2005, 04:33 AM

...I'm going to start by saying that you guys have completely decieded to ignore the fact that voldemort doesn't seem to be taken down by much of anything. He's "died" a few times, so clearly he's not going to bite it to a kunai...Or orochimaru's tongue... Unless he used it to provide voldemort with some sort of oral sex compensation for messing with him in the first place.

Figure A:
Orochimaru: "Ha! I'm creepy and do Snake things! Watch me suffocate you with my tongue! Ha!" :: Proceeds to make love to Voldemort's neck::
Voldemort: "Oh nos! I'm choking... AVADA KEDAVRA"
Orochimaru: "Splat!" ::Yes...he says splat. Then provides oral sex.::

Y'see? He's immortal... and lets say he wasn't... If I could do that I'd beat Orochimaru as well. As for Manda, he'd be like "Roar...I'm a snake" and Voldemort would go... Wait for it... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!!!". Or...if he was feeling playful...just polymorph him into a pube. Or summon the Basilisk... and... umm... Well... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!"

I mean... I guess Orochimaru could bite him and hope the curse seal kills him...Yanno...after... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!" But odds are he'll survive and grow a third arm out of his forehead or something redonkulous like the rest of the cursed silly heads.
And then...Let's say Orochimaru was still around... He'd do this!

Orochimaru: "OMG WTHAX WITH THE THIRD ARM ON YOUR HEAD!"
Voldemort: "SHINKUTATSUMAKIHADOUSHORYU AVADA KEDAVRA!!!....no jutsu?"
Orochimaru: "...Am I looking at the inside of my colon? That's just not right... This is not a nice thing to do to somebody."

Seriously... I think if there was some sort of silly fight, Voldemort would make Orochimaru look like a vagina. That's right...He'd turn him into a creepy one eyed crab monster that drools uncontrollably! ...And... I guess I'll give him a club arm... Cause... "AVADA KEDAVRA!"

firesoferebus666 · 07-21-2005, 01:00 AM

WARNING: Possible Harry Potter and Naruto spoilers.
There are a lot of similarities between these two characters, and this fight came to me while I was thinking of that whole Harry Potter = Kabuto thing. I even drew a table of their qualities... (some of this is irrevelant)

Voldemort

Immortal: Horcruxes
Affil: Snakes
Killed by baby
Excels at: Curses
Followers: Pathetic death eaters that are usually defeated by students
Weakness: Love...
Leaves: lightening scar
Eyes: Red

Orochimaru

Immortal: Immortality no Jutsu
Affil: Snakes
Deafeated by Hokage, the friggen strongest of the nation, but managed to kill him.
Excels @: all ninja arts?
Followers: Kabuto, rather pathetic sound 5 defeated by a small handful of genins and 1 chuunin...
Weakness: Slugs?
Leaves: Cool curse seal thing
Eyes: Snake! OWNAGE!

Looks pretty close to me...

leesan · 07-21-2005, 05:03 AM

Voldemort has a killing spell. Thats nice. But we all know that you could have a lethal attack but if you're delivery is crappy you aren't worth jack ie...
- sasuke's chidori and itachi catching it midflight
- kakashi throwing away two lethal attacks (naruto and sasuke first rasengan and chidori clash)
- oro kawarimi'ing out of anko's suicide jutsu
- etc

The thing is, avada kedavra is an energy blast. sure lethal, but nothing extraordinary in its ability to connect. We've seen shinobis dodging lethal projecticles of all flavors...multiple shurikens, giant fire blasts, a pack of summoned ice wolves, destructive sound waves, piercing wind slices, and so on.

On top of that, whose to say the spell can't be cancelled. Sound five can busts out a shield jutsu. Throw a kunai in the path of the spell. kawarimi a death eater with yourself and have the spell kill their allie. Edotensei an unkillable hokage to take the hit. Genjutsu the dumasses and have them kill each other off.

Voldemort though with powerful tricks, is more like a mad scientist with a death ray. Oro has been trained to kill, he's more like the assassin that kills the mad scientist and steals his deathray.

Simply put, oro has the pure combat experience and combative arsenal to take voldemort down. Then disguise himself as voldemort and have the death eaters attack konoha for him.

05-11-2005, 08:40 PM	#1
Literally Exaggerated Doesn't want a Custom Title Examiner Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 837	Orochimaru vs. Voldemort Orochimaru - incredibly brilliant student of the most powerful and knowledgeable Ninja in the village, Sarutobi. Popular, decorated, hero of his village. But far too ambitious, became obsessed with immortality, fled the village and resurfaced years later after lots of research into forbidden death techniques, leader of his own village, the Sound. Has black hair, pale skin, and a face and eyes that resemble those of a snake. Knows tons of jutsus related to snakes, as well as lots of immortality and death related jutsus. Voldemort - incredibly brilliant student of the most powerful and knowledgeable Wizard in the world, Dumbledore. Popular, decorated, handsome, was named head boy and awarded medals for his bravery. But far too ambitious, became obsessed with immortality, disappeared and resurfaced years later after lots of research into forbidden dark magic, leader of his own group of followers, the Death Eaters. Formerly had black hair, has pale skin, and a face and eyes that resemble those of a snake. Knows tons of spells related to snakes, as well as lots of immortality and death related magic. C'mon, with this many similarities, this fight was inevitable. their powers: Orochimaru - fast, powerful fighter, though not the best at hand to hand combat. Can resurrect people to fight for him, knows a ton of combative jutsus, many of which utilize snakes. Can summon the huge snake Manda, which is basicallly a completely fucking humungous talking snake. Brilliant, but often too arrogant. Voldemort - doesn't know shit about hand to hand combat, actually has achieved an immortality of sorts which means he can't be killed by any known means. Knows a ton of combative magic, including Avada Kedavra, which killls anyone it hits instantly. Can control any snake merely by talking to it. Can control the Basilisk, a huge snake that is smaller and stupider than Manda, but instantly kills anything that looks into its eyes. Can apparate at will (i.e. he can teleport like Yondaime, only doesn't need any kunai) Brilliant, but often too arrogant. Who would win in a fight? And what about if they had their followers? The Sound - a couple weak ass genins which use vibration, the sound 5 which have an assortment of odd, specific powers, plus Kabuto, the brilliant, jounin level medical nin. The Death Eaters - Some dozen or so wizards, all of whom can teleport and use avada kedavra, the death spell. On the down side, they don't seem to know much about hand to hand combat and aren't that fast. My take: Voldemort completely owns Orochimaru. Not only can he instantly kill Orochimaru with one spell, and not only can he teleport, but he can also control any of those snakes Oro summons, just by talking to them. the Death eaters lose to the Sound however. Though they can teleport and kill with one spell, they also don't seem to be good enough at aiming or anything to hit most of the soun.

05-11-2005, 10:23 PM	#4
Raspeh Doesn't want a Custom Title ANBU Recruit Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 451	Gee, I wonder where you got this idea... lol.. __________________ good ol' VG

05-12-2005, 03:28 PM	#5
Ninja Genius Strong Survive, The Weak Die ANBU Squad Leader Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,479	Hm, I'm starting to actually think now that Naruto was inspired somewhat by Harry Potter... __________________

05-20-2005, 02:17 AM	#7
The Wanderer Unpwnable ANBU Squad Leader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: @_@ Posts: 1,357	Dumbledore a pervert ?? nahhh . . . he looks too . . .hmm . . . "goody-goody" And Orochimaru would smoke Voldemort in a flash, since he could easily dodge Avada Kedavra (I think he would Kawarimi to safety) and before Voldemort recovers, Slash Slash, Voldemort would be decapitated in a flash. Orochiamru has not only his jutsu, but his fast and strong as well, while Voldemort is a complete loser in CQC . . . I don't think Manda would listen to Voldemort, He would go "Are you talking to me !!?? Are you on crack !!?? You pesty snake wannabe !! Get lost loser !! Die !!" Or something like that . . . __________________ Facts of Life: 1) Final Fantasy is like that really popular kid in high school whom everyone loves, and they sit around kissing his butt and saying all these great things about him. Then you arrive on the scene, you're the new kid. You fail to see what everyone else sees in this popular kid, and you just laugh. Then you get beat up... 2) Kryptonite has been found to contain trace elements of Chuck Norris's roundhouse kicks to the face. This is why it is so deadly to Superman. 3) The Outskirts Battledome is the place where the people who have lost respect for Naruto hang out. 4) Flushing the toilet while someone is taking a shower is noobish 5) Sasuke barely defeated a handicapped, holding back and sick nearly blind Sharingan User. 6) Life isn’t divided into genres. It’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky.

06-23-2005, 11:29 PM	#8
Miderauchi no Hitokiri Wings and Fangs of Valmar Genin Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 181	you know...I have wondered about this when I compared Voldemort to Orochimaru ever since I first got an understanding of the two. Think about it aveda kedavra needs willpower. All Orochimaru has to do to diminish his willpower is to show hm that creepy tongue. Also Orochimaru is a ninja for crying out loud. He moves pretty damn fast enough to dodge any other offensive spells. Also just destroy the wand and Voldemort is dead. Note: Kishimoto would have released something called Magic Mushroom, but it would seem like he bited off of JK Rowling. I think Naruto was before Harry Potter, wasn't? __________________ watashi wa saiaku na hito desu. honto!

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05-11-2005, 09:33 PM	#2
Sephero Damnit, Navarre Examiner Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 803	Orochimaru will choke him with his tongue.

06-24-2005, 12:16 AM	#10
۩ReYmДN-dono۩ ۩ N/A۩ Academy Teacher Join Date: May 2005 Location: pr Posts: 400	oro eats volder end of story

06-24-2005, 12:37 AM	#11
Miderauchi no Hitokiri Wings and Fangs of Valmar Genin Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 181	creepy thing is ...I can see that happening __________________ watashi wa saiaku na hito desu. honto!

06-24-2005, 12:43 AM	#12
Lord Yu We Live In Holy Waters #narutofan crew > you Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 16,159 Blog Entries: 102	I see oro "killing" voldemort with a kunai. or biting his neck off or something like that. __________________

06-28-2005, 01:32 PM	#14
raoul2000 Black Swordsman Chuunin Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 210	Right, he survives the Death curse, something that instantly kills anything it touches, and then he is killed by a Kunai...talk about nonsense! But heh, what would you expect when posting this in the NARUTO forums?!

06-28-2005, 01:55 PM	#15
KuwabaraTheMan Eternal Love Jinchuuriki Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,430	Voldemort's immortal, can kill you just by pointing at you, and can apparate and disapparate instantly.

06-28-2005, 08:13 PM	#16
akina uchiha Newbie Academy Student Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: canada Posts: 7	i completely 110% think that orochimaru would win . Only because orchimaru has ninja power muhahaha which rocks by the way and his super long tounge . __________________

06-30-2005, 04:33 AM	#18
Skida386 Newbie Academy Student Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19	...I'm going to start by saying that you guys have completely decieded to ignore the fact that voldemort doesn't seem to be taken down by much of anything. He's "died" a few times, so clearly he's not going to bite it to a kunai...Or orochimaru's tongue... Unless he used it to provide voldemort with some sort of oral sex compensation for messing with him in the first place. Figure A: Orochimaru: "Ha! I'm creepy and do Snake things! Watch me suffocate you with my tongue! Ha!" :: Proceeds to make love to Voldemort's neck:: Voldemort: "Oh nos! I'm choking... AVADA KEDAVRA" Orochimaru: "Splat!" ::Yes...he says splat. Then provides oral sex.:: Y'see? He's immortal... and lets say he wasn't... If I could do that I'd beat Orochimaru as well. As for Manda, he'd be like "Roar...I'm a snake" and Voldemort would go... Wait for it... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!!!". Or...if he was feeling playful...just polymorph him into a pube. Or summon the Basilisk... and... umm... Well... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!" I mean... I guess Orochimaru could bite him and hope the curse seal kills him...Yanno...after... "AVADA KEDAVRA!!!" But odds are he'll survive and grow a third arm out of his forehead or something redonkulous like the rest of the cursed silly heads. And then...Let's say Orochimaru was still around... He'd do this! Orochimaru: "OMG WTHAX WITH THE THIRD ARM ON YOUR HEAD!" Voldemort: "SHINKUTATSUMAKIHADOUSHORYU AVADA KEDAVRA!!!....no jutsu?" Orochimaru: "...Am I looking at the inside of my colon? That's just not right... This is not a nice thing to do to somebody." Seriously... I think if there was some sort of silly fight, Voldemort would make Orochimaru look like a vagina. That's right...He'd turn him into a creepy one eyed crab monster that drools uncontrollably! ...And... I guess I'll give him a club arm... Cause... "AVADA KEDAVRA!" Last edited by Skida386; 06-30-2005 at 08:00 PM.

07-21-2005, 01:00 AM	#19
firesoferebus666 Newbie Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 65	Lord Voldemort vs. Orochimaru WARNING: Possible Harry Potter and Naruto spoilers. There are a lot of similarities between these two characters, and this fight came to me while I was thinking of that whole Harry Potter = Kabuto thing. I even drew a table of their qualities... (some of this is irrevelant) Voldemort Immortal: Horcruxes Affil: Snakes Killed by baby Excels at: Curses Followers: Pathetic death eaters that are usually defeated by students Weakness: Love... Leaves: lightening scar Eyes: Red Orochimaru Immortal: Immortality no Jutsu Affil: Snakes Deafeated by Hokage, the friggen strongest of the nation, but managed to kill him. Excels @: all ninja arts? Followers: Kabuto, rather pathetic sound 5 defeated by a small handful of genins and 1 chuunin... Weakness: Slugs? Leaves: Cool curse seal thing Eyes: Snake! OWNAGE! Looks pretty close to me... __________________ ^please excuse any spelling/grammatical errors in the above post. I'll make a new sig... NEVER!

07-21-2005, 05:03 AM	#20
leesan Doesn't want a Custom Title Genin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 128	Voldemort has a killing spell. Thats nice. But we all know that you could have a lethal attack but if you're delivery is crappy you aren't worth jack ie... - sasuke's chidori and itachi catching it midflight - kakashi throwing away two lethal attacks (naruto and sasuke first rasengan and chidori clash) - oro kawarimi'ing out of anko's suicide jutsu - etc The thing is, avada kedavra is an energy blast. sure lethal, but nothing extraordinary in its ability to connect. We've seen shinobis dodging lethal projecticles of all flavors...multiple shurikens, giant fire blasts, a pack of summoned ice wolves, destructive sound waves, piercing wind slices, and so on. On top of that, whose to say the spell can't be cancelled. Sound five can busts out a shield jutsu. Throw a kunai in the path of the spell. kawarimi a death eater with yourself and have the spell kill their allie. Edotensei an unkillable hokage to take the hit. Genjutsu the dumasses and have them kill each other off. Voldemort though with powerful tricks, is more like a mad scientist with a death ray. Oro has been trained to kill, he's more like the assassin that kills the mad scientist and steals his deathray. Simply put, oro has the pure combat experience and combative arsenal to take voldemort down. Then disguise himself as voldemort and have the death eaters attack konoha for him.