Goku (DBZ not GT) vs War Hulk

*Green Lantern* · 07-04-2005, 10:13 AM

Who would win?
Goku from the end of DBZ that is- no rubbish SSJ4 or any other bs DBGT stuff
VS
War Hulk- one of the stronger incarnations of the Hulk- managed to stop Juggernaut in his tracks and threw him a couple of miles

No planetary destruction allowed by either parties obviously- who would win?

Goku would be able to SSJ3 and Spirit Bomb Hulk from the relative safety of far up in the clouds- however would ki blasts be counted as radiation and could the Hulk absorb such energy/regenerate from such a devastating attack?

The Heat Will Be On!

Ganj · 07-04-2005, 10:48 AM

Man...this is an interesting one. Goku is one of my favorite characters, but that's to say, how would stand up against War Hulk?! And to be honest, I've never even seen War Hulk for that matter. So I'm completely in dark as to War Hulk's abilities so...but given that War Hulk is the strongest incarnation of the original Hulk....I'll go with Goku. Reason? Ascended Saiyan! He can "hulk out" to tremendous sizes himself if he wants, and that's not to mention SS2 and 3. So I guess I'm leaning more towards Goku.

....But the Hulk destroyed an asteroid BIGGER THAN the Earth....

Insipidipity · 07-04-2005, 11:15 AM

He's not the strongest(maybe top 3), and you've never even seen him...
He has weapons/armor, he's literally War, as one of Apocalypse's horsemen. He nearly decapitated Juggernaught and literally stopped him in his foot steps. Goku may be good, but he can't match up to that.

Ganj · 07-04-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Insipidipity

He's not the strongest(maybe top 3), and you've never even seen him...
He has weapons/armor, he's literally War, as one of Apocalypse's horsemen. He nearly decapitated Juggernaught and literally stopped him in his foot steps. Goku may be good, but he can't match up to that.

On a physical level, "No". Goku cannot compete with Hulk. But thinking about the fight against Kid Buu, who was essentially 'nothing' in essense, Goku managed to take him out in the end. And to top that, Goku's energy levels are a totally different game than Hulk's. My wager is that a well-placed Super Dragon Fist followed up by a full-blast Warp Kamahameha would definately do some damage.

hjkou · 07-04-2005, 12:16 PM

ps: goku can fly, use instant transmission

not that it matters, seeing as he already moves at lightspeed (no he doesnt really, but im just saying that because he does move incredibly fast)

***Gooba*** · 07-04-2005, 12:25 PM

War Hulk, he regenerates so well he makes Buu look like a leper. Stopping the Juggernaut is physically impossible, as in the laws of physics were rewritten to say he cannot be stopped, yet he did it.

Insipidipity · 07-04-2005, 12:27 PM

The hulk can jump into orbit not need to breathe, his body is strong enough to handle it, and he has insane accuracy at hitting fast moving targets. He can throw a rock and knock a supersonic jet out of the sky.

Final Ultima · 07-04-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gooba

War Hulk, he regenerates so well he makes Buu look like a leper.

Which; in itself, is completely insane. Marvel creations are so proposterous, yet hilarious in their nigh-omnipotency.

Takuza · 07-04-2005, 12:54 PM

Goku would teleport behind the hulk, grab him, teleport to some far of plaent, and teleport back home. that way its a tie. other than taht....the hulk would continue to hit try and hit goku while goku dodges....but goku soon gets tired, so hulk wins.........

not that this matters...but is goku allowed to blow up HALF the panet??

CrazyMoronX · 07-04-2005, 01:16 PM

Goku would probably pull out his old time favorite trump card: Kamhemaheha into the sun. I doubt Hulk can neither get away from the sun since it has nothing physical to jump off of, and he could possibly be destroyed by it, who's to say?

Either way, Hulk will lie in the center of the sun for all eternity.

If he manages to come back from the sun, well Goku could teleoprt him into a black hole.

sundis · 07-04-2005, 01:28 PM

Actually a while ago there was a comic where Goku fought Superman. I forget who published it, but it obviously had DC comic's permission(among others). In the same comic Spiderman fought Vash the stampede.

Anyway superman was able to hold out and it looked like a good fight... until Goku went until SS-mode. After that I think Goku one-hit Superman with kamahame.

I dont think the Hulk in any variation can beat Superman let alone Goku. Keep in mind Goku can destroy planets.

War Hulk compared to the other Hulks is just a small/marginable power boost. Goku transforming multiplys his strength 100x's of times. Well according to some power charts.

Insipidipity · 07-04-2005, 01:53 PM

Didn't Hulk nearly destroy Earth as well. Either him or superman, but I'm pretty sure it was him.

Hulk has been hit by weapons designed to kill a god and survived... silly kamehameha wouldnt do jack.

sundis · 07-04-2005, 02:07 PM

It's possible; I dont follow Hulk much. But even in the marvel universe he's not that strong. He's strong in earth-terms. But beings like the silver-surfer and above are much stronger -- I think there's a power chart on collector cards, or even marvel's homepage.

Goku would probably be considered one of those other worldly heroes.

Superman I could see almost destroying earth -- in some comics he's crazy strong.

***Gooba*** · 07-04-2005, 02:22 PM

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It's possible; I dont follow Hulk much. But even in the marvel universe he's not that strong. He's strong in earth-terms. But beings like the silver-surfer and above are much stronger

Who cares that SS and above are more powerful? Also, the Hulk is stronger than Galactus, in pure strength, and Galactus is way more powerful than the SS, whose sole source of power is a fraction of Galactus that was given to him. They would take Goku out in a fraction of a millisecond. It is like saying A>B and A>C, therefore B>C. Hulk is actually ridiculously strong, in any terms. He lifted 150 billion tons, the world's strongest heroes lift 100 tons.

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After that I think Goku one-hit Superman with kamahame.

Even if he did that is utter crap. Superman has taken way more powerful blows than that, and not even cared. Kamehame in SS1 mode can destroy a planet, he has taken way worse than that. Crossover comics are not reliable at all, they are worse than filler. Storm beat WW, that just isn't possible.

Nothing Goku can do would hurt the Hulk for long. Look at this, and the beam is stronger than a Kamehame.

I want to point out that all he says when he comes back is "shut up and get me some pants"

He once got disembowled and decided to hold in his guts, and then his body healed so fast his hands actually got stuck inside him, and he had to rip them out and have it heal again.

Here are some feats of strength.

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The Hulk in the secret wars lifted a mountain weighing 150 billion tons or 300 trillion pounds (300,000,000,000,000lbs).

The Hulk shattered a meteor twice the size of the Earth.

The Hulk has bent adamantium on several occaisions and I believe he destroyed captain americas shield in a what-if.

The Hulk Shattered Onslaughts armor which was probably the single strongest material to ever exist in the marvel universe.

The Hulk has taken on the avengers and won on several occaisions.

The Hulk has moved entire islands.

The Hulk has held open black holes and stretched fields of pure energy.

The Hulk destroyed the high evoluntionaries armor (a being so immortal he could't even kill himself, his armor always kept him alive so he picked a fight with the hulk in the hopes of dying)

The Hulk broke free of the crimson bands of cyttorak (something that held even galactus)

All of that, except Maestro, was done by someone way weaker than War Hulk.

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War Hulk compared to the other Hulks is just a small/marginable power boost. Goku transforming multiplys his strength 100x's of times. Well according to some power charts.

The Hulk multiplys his strength 1500000000x times. So just because he doesn't turn blonde doesn't mean he can't power up. The madder he gets the stronger he gets, with no limit, none. Say Goku got as strong as the Hulk, then the Hulk would get stronger. Every punch he throws makes him stronger, even punch he takes makes him stronger. Goku is powerful, and gets more powerful as he fights, but he never got over a billion times stronger in a single fight.

Takuza · 07-04-2005, 02:36 PM

I agree with Gooba for the most part in the hulk winning this, but I do like the Idea of Goku blasting the hulk into the sun. as far as I know, the hulk couldn't do anything to stop it if goku got in the right spot. please do correct me if I am wrong however.

***Gooba*** · 07-04-2005, 02:37 PM

I bet he would just keep getting pissed that he couldn't get out, and eventually get strong enough to get off just by pushing on the plasma.

There is no way for Goku to kill the Hulk, so even if, and that is a big if, the Hulk can't kill Goku, Hulk wins. Goku ages, the Hulk doesn't. Wolverine has lived for centuries, and his healing factor is way worse than Buu, who like I said is a leper compared to the Hulk.

For those of you saying Goku is too fast, SS is faster, way faster, and the Hulk was able to grab his board out of the air.

I wonder when Tsu will show up and pwn everyone with his awesomeness.

Kamendex · 07-04-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymoronx

Goku would probably pull out his old time favorite trump card: Kamhemaheha into the sun. I doubt Hulk can neither get away from the sun since it has nothing physical to jump off of, and he could possibly be destroyed by it, who's to say?

Either way, Hulk will lie in the center of the sun for all eternity.

If he manages to come back from the sun, well Goku could teleoprt him into a black hole.

Teleport into the sun/blackhole? WTF? First of all, Instantaneous Movement needs a ki signature to lock on to, Gokuu is not gonna find that in a black hole. And even if he does teleport to one, he's a goner as well.

Gokuu is insanely weak compared to the Hulk, Base Gokuu in the Buu saga couldnt lift 40 tons...if Hulk gets his hands on Gokuu, Gokuu will be broken like a twig.

The only thing Gokuu has going for him is his speed, but what's speed going to do to someone Gokuu cant even harm?

Takuza · 07-04-2005, 02:38 PM

^ lol, true. Gooba

Code · 07-04-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamendex

Teleport into the sun/blackhole? WTF? First of all, Instantaneous Movement needs a ki signature to lock on to, Gokuu is not gonna find that in a black hole. And even if he does teleport to one, he's a goner as well.

Gokuu is insanely weak compared to the Hulk, Base Gokuu in the Buu saga couldnt lift 40 tons...if Hulk gets his hands on Gokuu, Gokuu will be broken like a twig.

The only thing Gokuu has going for him is his speed, but what's speed going to do to someone Gokuu cant even harm?

Base Goku can lift a lot more than 40 tons.

While having 160 tons + at least over 100x Gravity(making it over 16000 tons) on him, he was still able to fly in base form.

Insipidipity · 07-04-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Code

Base Goku can lift a lot more than 40 tons.

While having 160 tons + at least over 100x Gravity(making it over 16000 tons) on him, he was still able to fly in base form.

16000 tons, even 16000000 tons(1000x more) is about 1000x less than what's just been stated. Thats a ridiculous difference in strength still.

The only people who'll be alive at the end of time will be Doomsday, Superman, the Hulk, and maybe Wolverine.

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07-04-2005, 10:48 AM	#2
Ganj Daijobu datte Academy Student Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD Posts: 45	Man...this is an interesting one. Goku is one of my favorite characters, but that's to say, how would stand up against War Hulk?! And to be honest, I've never even seen War Hulk for that matter. So I'm completely in dark as to War Hulk's abilities so...but given that War Hulk is the strongest incarnation of the original Hulk....I'll go with Goku. Reason? Ascended Saiyan! He can "hulk out" to tremendous sizes himself if he wants, and that's not to mention SS2 and 3. So I guess I'm leaning more towards Goku. ....But the Hulk destroyed an asteroid BIGGER THAN the Earth.... __________________

07-04-2005, 11:15 AM	#3
Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist Hokage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,869	He's not the strongest(maybe top 3), and you've never even seen him... He has weapons/armor, he's literally War, as one of Apocalypse's horsemen. He nearly decapitated Juggernaught and literally stopped him in his foot steps. Goku may be good, but he can't match up to that. __________________ Believe The Truth, he's right 90% of the time What irks me Spoiler: -Acting like the forum is your private chatroom -Unoriginality -Using the term "canon" -Using "speculation" as a buzzword -Using logical operators incorrectly -Copout explanations like "It's filler" or "It's fiction" instead of an actual answer -Citing logical fallacies like kids memorizing formulas for a test -Complaining in posts about being neg repped like a kid whining on the P.A. about getting rejected by a girl -Saying one thing, being proven wrong, then acting like you said something else -Talking about specific cases using too general of arguments -Trying to debate stuff without properly defining them -Making EVERYTHING a race/gender issue like a girl -Acting like you gangsta when youz ain't -Misspellings words and worser grammer Quotes Spoiler: The most amazing coincidence of all would be the complete absence of coincidence.

07-04-2005, 12:25 PM	#6
*Gooba* When you have it, you don’t need it. When you need it you don’t have it. If you have it, you need more of it. If you have more of it, you don’t need less of it. You need it, to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northboro, MA Posts: 17,052	War Hulk, he regenerates so well he makes Buu look like a leper. Stopping the Juggernaut is physically impossible, as in the laws of physics were rewritten to say he cannot be stopped, yet he did it. __________________

07-04-2005, 12:27 PM	#7
Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist Hokage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,869	The hulk can jump into orbit not need to breathe, his body is strong enough to handle it, and he has insane accuracy at hitting fast moving targets. He can throw a rock and knock a supersonic jet out of the sky. __________________ Believe The Truth, he's right 90% of the time What irks me Spoiler: -Acting like the forum is your private chatroom -Unoriginality -Using the term "canon" -Using "speculation" as a buzzword -Using logical operators incorrectly -Copout explanations like "It's filler" or "It's fiction" instead of an actual answer -Citing logical fallacies like kids memorizing formulas for a test -Complaining in posts about being neg repped like a kid whining on the P.A. about getting rejected by a girl -Saying one thing, being proven wrong, then acting like you said something else -Talking about specific cases using too general of arguments -Trying to debate stuff without properly defining them -Making EVERYTHING a race/gender issue like a girl -Acting like you gangsta when youz ain't -Misspellings words and worser grammer Quotes Spoiler: The most amazing coincidence of all would be the complete absence of coincidence.

07-04-2005, 12:16 PM	#5
hjkou hache jay kay oh you Torture Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,288	ps: goku can fly, use instant transmission not that it matters, seeing as he already moves at lightspeed (no he doesnt really, but im just saying that because he does move incredibly fast)

07-04-2005, 12:54 PM	#9
Takuza Disco Party~ Elite Teacher Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,024	Goku would teleport behind the hulk, grab him, teleport to some far of plaent, and teleport back home. that way its a tie. other than taht....the hulk would continue to hit try and hit goku while goku dodges....but goku soon gets tired, so hulk wins......... not that this matters...but is goku allowed to blow up HALF the panet?? __________________ Spoiler: [Fc's] [/Fc's]

07-04-2005, 01:16 PM	#10
CrazyMoronX CrazyMoroneXtreme Sith Lord Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 29,962 Blog Entries: 3	Goku would probably pull out his old time favorite trump card: Kamhemaheha into the sun. I doubt Hulk can neither get away from the sun since it has nothing physical to jump off of, and he could possibly be destroyed by it, who's to say? Either way, Hulk will lie in the center of the sun for all eternity. If he manages to come back from the sun, well Goku could teleoprt him into a black hole. __________________

07-04-2005, 01:28 PM	#11
sundis Newbie Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 76	Actually a while ago there was a comic where Goku fought Superman. I forget who published it, but it obviously had DC comic's permission(among others). In the same comic Spiderman fought Vash the stampede. Anyway superman was able to hold out and it looked like a good fight... until Goku went until SS-mode. After that I think Goku one-hit Superman with kamahame. I dont think the Hulk in any variation can beat Superman let alone Goku. Keep in mind Goku can destroy planets. War Hulk compared to the other Hulks is just a small/marginable power boost. Goku transforming multiplys his strength 100x's of times. Well according to some power charts.

07-04-2005, 01:53 PM	#12
Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist Hokage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,869	Didn't Hulk nearly destroy Earth as well. Either him or superman, but I'm pretty sure it was him. Hulk has been hit by weapons designed to kill a god and survived... silly kamehameha wouldnt do jack. __________________ Believe The Truth, he's right 90% of the time What irks me Spoiler: -Acting like the forum is your private chatroom -Unoriginality -Using the term "canon" -Using "speculation" as a buzzword -Using logical operators incorrectly -Copout explanations like "It's filler" or "It's fiction" instead of an actual answer -Citing logical fallacies like kids memorizing formulas for a test -Complaining in posts about being neg repped like a kid whining on the P.A. about getting rejected by a girl -Saying one thing, being proven wrong, then acting like you said something else -Talking about specific cases using too general of arguments -Trying to debate stuff without properly defining them -Making EVERYTHING a race/gender issue like a girl -Acting like you gangsta when youz ain't -Misspellings words and worser grammer Quotes Spoiler: The most amazing coincidence of all would be the complete absence of coincidence.

07-04-2005, 02:07 PM	#13
sundis Newbie Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 76	It's possible; I dont follow Hulk much. But even in the marvel universe he's not that strong. He's strong in earth-terms. But beings like the silver-surfer and above are much stronger -- I think there's a power chart on collector cards, or even marvel's homepage. Goku would probably be considered one of those other worldly heroes. Superman I could see almost destroying earth -- in some comics he's crazy strong.

07-04-2005, 02:36 PM	#15
Takuza Disco Party~ Elite Teacher Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,024	I agree with Gooba for the most part in the hulk winning this, but I do like the Idea of Goku blasting the hulk into the sun. as far as I know, the hulk couldn't do anything to stop it if goku got in the right spot. please do correct me if I am wrong however. __________________ Spoiler: [Fc's] [/Fc's]

07-04-2005, 02:37 PM	#16
*Gooba* When you have it, you don’t need it. When you need it you don’t have it. If you have it, you need more of it. If you have more of it, you don’t need less of it. You need it, to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northboro, MA Posts: 17,052	I bet he would just keep getting pissed that he couldn't get out, and eventually get strong enough to get off just by pushing on the plasma. There is no way for Goku to kill the Hulk, so even if, and that is a big if, the Hulk can't kill Goku, Hulk wins. Goku ages, the Hulk doesn't. Wolverine has lived for centuries, and his healing factor is way worse than Buu, who like I said is a leper compared to the Hulk. For those of you saying Goku is too fast, SS is faster, way faster, and the Hulk was able to grab his board out of the air. I wonder when Tsu will show up and pwn everyone with his awesomeness. __________________

07-04-2005, 02:38 PM	#18
Takuza Disco Party~ Elite Teacher Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,024	^ lol, true. Gooba __________________ Spoiler: [Fc's] [/Fc's]