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Old 07-21-2006, 11:05 AM   #1
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Default Quick question: Who was the most powerful Newtype in UC?

Judau? Camille?
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Tomino said Judau was the strongest.
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Judau by far.
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Judau, however Kamille mightve developed into a much stronger newtype had things not gone the way they did....

And in any SRW videogame, Amuro is the best pilot out of all the newtypes..
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wich series is this judau from and how can he be better than amuro...
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Judau's from Gundam ZZ. I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment how good he is as a Newtype.
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Judau is from ZZ.

How he can be better than Amuro? Well, his (Amuro's) spatial awareness is at about the same level of any other newtype, such as Char or Kamille. He can sense danger among other things. He can also use his mind to control objects, the funnels of his Nu Gundam for example, but only because the Nu Gundam is equipped with a psycommu (like a brainwave enhancer). Kamille is a bit different from Char and Amuro in a way though, which is clearly seen in Zeta and the Zeta movies.

Anyway, to the point:

Judau does not need a psycommu in order to control things in his enviroment (create shields/barries around his gundam, etc. etc., much like Kamille). In the end of ZZ, Judau could use his powers to un-dock the ZZ into it's three original parts (core fighter, upper body and lower body) just using his mind among other things.

Char and Amuro never showed such abilities, so in terms of power, Judau would be the most powerful newtype.
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Just chiming in, Judau is the most powerful Newtype. But just like Anakin, he may be the most powerful but a skilled Newtype pilot should beat him in a straightup fight. He was a decently okay pilot, but the mistake he made.

ZZ end fight:
When he seperated the ZZ, there is no way he should have been able to beat Haman there. That was a complete WTH situation right there.
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Judau was the most powerful. He completely overwhelmed the one we thought was the most powerful (Haman) and reduced her to tears in an early confrontation.

Char was the weakest. Easily.

You said quick question, well there is a quick answer. Judau might have been the strongest, but he was also the lamest character. Scirroco and Haman were the coolest New Types.
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Judau was the most powerful. He completely overwhelmed the one we thought was the most powerful (Haman) and reduced her to tears in an early confrontation.
True, but Haman was never thought strongest to my knowledge. She's strong, no doubt, but Kamille is easily more powerful than her and Scirrocco might be as well. And what she was overwhelmed by was the raw power behind Judau, a power he couldn't control. The raw power that was emanating from him both intrigued her and scared her. Which is one of the reasons she became so interested in him. Once the initial shock of Judau's newtype strength passed, she was never affected that way again.

And I still think the end of their fight was BS, but that has nothing to do with your quote.
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Char was the weakest. Easily.
Actually he isn't realy the weakest because Amuro starts out as not realy controling his powers and when Amuro JUMPS ahead of Char is when Lalah dies

although Char cant drive a car he can pilot the Nightengale
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I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille. Considering that I always thought Haman and Scirocco were pretty similar based on their clash is all the evidence I need to ASSUME that Haman is also stronger than Kamille. Come on, NejiHinata. As Haman fans (like me) we are suppose to blindly believe that Haman is the strongest.
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Stupidest way to get rid of a GREAT character that I have ever seen. They should have kept her around for Char's Counterattack at least.
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I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille.
Well, the new movies change all that.
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I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille. Considering that I always thought Haman and Scirocco were pretty similar based on their clash is all the evidence I need to ASSUME that Haman is also stronger than Kamille. Come on, NejiHinata. As Haman fans (like me) we are suppose to blindly believe that Haman is the strongest.

Stupidest way to get rid of a GREAT character that I have ever seen. They should have kept her around for Char's Counterattack at least.

1. I shouldn't have used the word "easily" as we don't know what she'd be able to accomplish when put into a plot device system such as the Zeta and the ZZ had.

2. Scirocco was using Kamille's own power against him, it wasn't so much Scirocco that crippled Kamille as Kamille crippling Kamille via a redirection by Scirocco. And that was only because, by touching the Zeta, Scirrocco was able to tap into the same system Kamille was using, creating a backlash. So I still wouldn't say Scirocco is more powerful than Kamille.

3. Yes, I would like to blindly believe Haman to be most powerful, but I was kind of giving credit where credit is due. And those two, Judau and Kamille, deserve to get credit. I still say she was the best Zeon pilot. Even better than Char. There, I said it. Char fanboys attack, whatever. She kicked his ass and you know it.
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Hey Neji, you know this Sakura icon that we can select? Don't you wish that was Haman instead? I sure do.

I don't know if Haman was a better pilot than Char, but she was a better Newtype. I have been ordering Char's Deleted Affair from Amazon Japan pretty much 1 book at a time, and it's been interesting reading about Haman's abilities developing.
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Judau is from ZZ.

How he can be better than Amuro? Well, his (Amuro's) spatial awareness is at about the same level of any other newtype, such as Char or Kamille. He can sense danger among other things. He can also use his mind to control objects, the funnels of his Nu Gundam for example, but only because the Nu Gundam is equipped with a psycommu (like a brainwave enhancer). Kamille is a bit different from Char and Amuro in a way though, which is clearly seen in Zeta and the Zeta movies.

Anyway, to the point:

Judau does not need a psycommu in order to control things in his enviroment (create shields/barries around his gundam, etc. etc., much like Kamille). In the end of ZZ, Judau could use his powers to un-dock the ZZ into it's three original parts (core fighter, upper body and lower body) just using his mind among other things.

Char and Amuro never showed such abilities, so in terms of power, Judau would be the most powerful newtype.
I am going to have to disagree with ya. Aleast Amuro wasn't trying to be like characters from G gundam
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I am going to have to disagree with ya. Aleast Amuro wasn't trying to be like characters from G gundam
I fail to see your point. Was Judau anything like the guys from G Gundam?
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Judau was the Strongest, but least effective of the leads.
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Judau had potential but was in reality not so great. I'd have to say Amuro Ray was the best his newtype potential grew remarkably and he was an amazing pilot. Closely followed by Judau, Lalah and Char, in that order.
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Judau had potential but was in reality not so great. I'd have to say Amuro Ray was the best his newtype potential grew remarkably and he was an amazing pilot. Closely followed by Judau, Lalah and Char, in that order.
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