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Old 11-10-2009, 02:32 PM   #81
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Good question to ask.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:39 PM   #82
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Depending on the translation you may get different wording, but its extremely likely you'll get the same context overall.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:07 PM   #83
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Originally posted by Turrin:
In Chapter 430 when Pa-Toad Suggests that Naruto has Surpassed the Previous Generation in Reference to the Forms of Minato and Jiraiya that appear at Naruto's back when he destroys Asura Realm with Rasegan do Translators believe that the context of the actual Japanese implies that Naruto is now stronger then Jiraiya/Minato or that he surpassed them in another way such as in Mindset, Rasegan and Sage Mode, or some other quality. Or is Pa-toad's statement too ambiguous to tell one way or another.

Pa-Toad's Statement has made it quite the subject for debate on whether or not Naruto is Stronger then Minato now. So i was just wondering what a translator felt the implications were from the original Japanese. I believe this is the original Japanese:

Gammabunta, "じじ蛙。。。二人の懐かしい背中が見えんかったか?"

Fusaku, "そうじゃのう。。。"

Fusaku, "ナルトは先代を超えたようじゃのう。。。"
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:59 PM   #84
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This is the sentence you're looking for.

Fusaku, "ナルトは先代を超えたようじゃのう。。。
Fukasaku: Naruto has surpassed his predecessors/the previous generation.

My opinion: Naruto's taken Sage Mode further than Jiraiya ever did, and disregarding the fact that Yoda didn't know about FRS, he perfected Rasengan, something Minato himself has never been able to accomplish. So yes, Naruto has "surpassed his predecessors".
That said, the sentence is way too vague to be taken as a statement of Naruto's actual power level and no amount of alternate translation is gonna change that.

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