Movie Iron Man vs. Movie Hulk (2008)

[Gooba]

Since the beginning of Tony's fight, (even before he flew to the location of) Tony was operating at 48% power. At 19% power, he held up a mini van after it was thrown by the Iron Mongler. The same guy that dug through concert and asphalt from his underground facility; the same guy that one armed cars and threw them against Tony. Iron Mongler stomped Tony several times, threw him threw a bus and shot a missile at him point blank. Tony got blow up in the air just to recover hovering, all while only going down to 14%.

The stuff Abomination and Hulk did to each other makes that look like nothing. Having a car thrown at you in one thing, having a guy repeatedly pummel you in the face with a car while you are pinned on the ground until the car is in 1000 pieces is another.

Hulk winces and stuff because he doesn't want them in his eyes and it is natural. Nothing actually did any damage to him besides one scrape out of that whole ordeal. Then again Abomination the only cut was when he got stabbed with the bone elbow (which he ripped out of Abom's arm, very impressive). It isn't fair to say a grenade launcher almost knocking Hulk down means he is weaker than someone who did get knocked down by a tank blast. Plus we don't really know the specifications of those dual sonic beams. They might be up there with his chest arc reactor laser.

[HumanWine]

Originally Posted by Gooba

The stuff Abomination and Hulk did to each other makes that look like nothing. Having a car thrown at you in one thing, having a guy repeatedly pummel you in the face with a car while you are pinned on the ground until the car is in 1000 pieces is another.

Not when you are wearing a body armor made up of titanium alloy made to protect Satellites that are constantly bombarded with projectiles the size of pebbles that can rip through spaceships. Cars are made up of cheap steel which do not compare.

Originally Posted by Gooba

Hulk winces and stuff because he doesn't want them in his eyes and it is natural. Nothing actually did any damage to him besides one scrape out of that whole ordeal. Then again Abomination the only cut was when he got stabbed with the bone elbow (which he ripped out of Abom's arm, very impressive). It isn't fair to say a grenade launcher almost knocking Hulk down means he is weaker than someone who did get knocked down by a tank blast. Plus we don't really know the specifications of those dual sonic beams. They might be up there with his chest arc reactor laser.

Im not saying that almost being knocked down alone causes the Hulk to lose the fight, just that Tony has more than enough ways to win. He could should shoot Hulk in the eyes with his shoulder rifles and finish however he wants. He could spam his kinetic blasts (>>>grenade launchers)at Hulk until he fall and finish however he wants. He could spam his long ranch weapons at Hulk. He could possibly even get in a pure fist fight but he'd mostly like run out of energy before the hulk is down for good, mainly because Hulk is bigger.

Mind you that in the at the end of the Ironman movie, Tony used his first Arc Reactor. The same reactor he made in the cave which was much weaker than the upgraded one. Despite that, it still created a blast that was strong enough to blast Iron Mongler into a building.

I find it incredibly hard to believe those sonic beam would equal Tony's full powered reactor blast from his new Arc Reactor mainly because he designed it himself, for himself, and quit making weapons for others.

[Gooba]

Originally Posted by HumanWine

Not when you are wearing a body armor made up of titanium alloy made to protect Satellites that are constantly bombarded with projectiles the size of pebbles that can rip through spaceships. Cars are made up of cheap steel which do not compare.

This isn't a counter. I said A would do more damage than B, and you counter with C could take either. What Iron Monger did to Iron Man was way less damaging than what Hulk did to Abomination. A single car being thrown is less dangerous than getting pounded with two halves of a car by someone strong enough to weild them like nothing.

Im not saying that almost being knocked down alone causes the Hulk to lose the fight, just that Tony has more than enough ways to win. He could should shoot Hulk in the eyes with his shoulder rifles and finish however he wants. He could spam his kinetic blasts (>>>grenade launchers)at Hulk until he fall and finish however he wants. He could spam his long ranch weapons at Hulk. He could possibly even get in a pure fist fight but he'd mostly like run out of energy before the hulk is down for good, mainly because Hulk is bigger.

I do not see his kinetic blasts as better than a grenade launcher. It just knocked people back, grenades do that plus have shrapnel ripping you apart. Even if he did get Hulk to fall I don't think he could do anything to him. None of his attacks impressed me. He certainly couldn't hurt Hulk with his punches. Abomination was throwing cars around left and right like they were toys and he wasn't able to beat Hulk with punches. Those hits between the two were way more powerful than grenades or kinetic blasts. Look at how far and fast Hulk kicked Emil back then look at what happened to Tony's victims.

Mind you that in the at the end of the Ironman movie, Tony used his first Arc Reactor. The same reactor he made in the cave which was much weaker than the upgraded one. Despite that, it still created a blast that was strong enough to blast Iron Mongler into a building.

While that is impressive, Abomination kicked Hulk much further than Iron Man sent Iron Monger and Hulk was fine.

I find it incredibly hard to believe those sonic beam would equal Tony's full powered reactor blast from his new Arc Reactor mainly because he designed it himself, for himself, and quit making weapons for others.

I don't see your point. The sonic beam couldn't be more powerful than Iron Man's power supply's discharge because he didn't make it? Tony Stark didn't invent nukes but I am pretty sure that is more powerful than his arc blast. They were huge and mounted on the back of Hummers. Iron Man's is half the size of my fist. It isn't hard to think it would be more powerful. Seeing what it did to Hulk I think they were. Even if they weren't, we know the arc blast is less than Abom's kick which didn't take Hulk out from physics.

Iron Man vs Iron Monger were in the "cars are heavy" range, while Hulk and Abom thought they were toys. That shows they are a tier above strengthwise.