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Old 01-23-2008, 02:02 AM   #41
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Sanji's Diable Jambe would kill Iceman straight away.

Sanji's heart burns hot enough to counter Absolute Zero.
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:34 AM   #42
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Sailor Mars, Ace, Hao w/SoF, DS and far, fare more manga fire-users can take Iceman.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Sailor Mars could solo him, really.
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:53 AM   #43
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:35 AM   #44
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Lol at Sailor Mars beating Iceman.
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Lol at Sailor Mars beating Iceman.
Can't she just keep speedblitzing him, and using her fire powers to attack?
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:40 AM   #46
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Iceman has the power to pwn all fire based attacks in manga, but he is far from being totally awakened.
If he had like, 500 years, he could snuff out stars and stuff
He's an Omega, other omega's have snuff out stars before, or created universes.
He just needs a mental power up
As he is, I don't know if he could beat fire fist
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I don't think he will ever be that strong.

The only time i recall Iceman going AZ was with the help of Johnny as he kept siphoning his heat to get stronger.

Iceman can freeze your blood fyi so if you made of fire or have some sort of defense he can end pretty quickly.
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When something is at absolute zero, it cant emit or absorb energy (heat) so an outside source of heat will have no affect sense it would be able to absorb its energy.
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Have you guysa ever heard of Sunfire? Iceman stopped him from using his powers just by being near him. Iceman can be every were if he wants to. He can become water if he wants...pokemon says water>>fire :kisazaru. He can steal hydration just like flash steals speed, even fire users have water in them. Iceman wins without lifting a finger against every single one of them.
Sunfire who could go 1million degrees couldnt start his fire against Iceman and Iceman didnt even touch him LOLOL

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Old 01-23-2008, 08:28 PM   #50
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Have you guysa ever heard of Sunfire? Iceman stopped him from using his powers just by being near him. Iceman can be every were if he wants to. He can become water if he wants...pokemon says water>>fire :kisazaru. He can steal hydration just like flash steals speed, even fire users have water in them. Iceman wins without lifting a finger against every single one of them.
Sunfire who could go 1million degrees couldnt start his fire against Iceman and Iceman didnt even touch him LOLOL
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:45 PM   #51
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what's there to laugh about?

miss mars blows up planets so where's your absolute zero now?
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1 million degrees?
I think some manga people wouldn't have trouble hitting at least 10x that temperature.
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Ok....How strong is Iceman?
Can he go absolute zero low or not? If so, he's unstoppable.
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^He can but thats not all there is to his power. He can absorb heat or dispell it. Recently he got absorbed by a fire user everyone thought he was dead but he absorbed the guy from the inside
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Then he cant lose any firecasters; he's able to survive being engulfed in flames, and create absolute zero temps. Unless they somehow blitz/mindfuck/butthurt/PWN/OMG/WTF @_@ him he'll be fine.
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^^He has vey strong resistance to telepathy. If it wernt for PIS Iceman would be the strongest mutant on earth
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Care to expend on that telepathy resistance... Strongest mutant no, up there with the top yes(couple mutant are warpers).
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Jean Grey found it very hard to find him, she gave a 500 mile radius of where he might be. Emma Frost had to establish a link with him just so she can find him easily.
I meant Iceman is one of the strongest earth mutants still alive
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An explanation of Icemans powers: An Omega-level mutant, Iceman's powers have evolved considerably over the years. Apocalypse considers Iceman to be one of the twelve most powerful mutants on Earth.

Iceman is able to lower his body temperature without causing harm to himself, reaching negative 105°F within a few tenths of a second. He is able to freeze any moisture in the air around him into unusually hard ice to form ice-slides and various projectiles and shields. He can travel rapidly along these ice-slides or ice-bridges by causing ice to form rapidly beneath and behind his feet, pushing him along the slick surface; he can increase his speed by emitting ice through his feet like a propeller and can obtain speeds of modern jets. He is also able to summon moisture from the air and create a flood. Iceman is immune to sub-zero temperatures and has thermal vision: the ability to detect objects visually by how much heat the objects generate. According to the laws of thermodynamics, cold is defined as the absence of heat. Therefore, Iceman does not actually emanate cold, but rather absorbs and dispels heat. Since heat is a form of energy, Iceman's power can be defined as a psionic ability to manipulate thermal energy.

Among his new-found abilities, Iceman is also able to reconstitute his ice-form if any part of it is damaged or even if it is completely shattered, without permanently harming himself. He is able to temporarily add the mass of a body of water to his own to increase his mass, size, and physical power. His strength and durability in his ice-form are enhanced beyond normal human levels. He can survive not only as sentient ice, but as sentient water and vapor. Drake has developed the ability to transform his body from a gaseous state back to a solid, although it is taxing both physically and mentally. He has the capacity to manipulate all forms of moisture and possesses all of the abilities to generate projectiles, slides, and shields that he had always possessed, but they have been augmented greatly.
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