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Kagutsuchi
04-14-2006, 08:25 AM
Who would win? :O

kapsi
04-14-2006, 08:40 AM
FF7 Sephiroth is turn based so it's hard to say how fast/strong he is
AC Sephiroth...I dunno, it could go any way

Seany
04-14-2006, 09:58 AM
Easily Sephiroth

Supreme-Shinobi
04-14-2006, 10:01 AM
sephiroth ftw, yondaime is fast but i can see sephy reactin to any kinda attack yondy could throw at him, only takes one swing of masamune to win.

Remy LeBeau
04-14-2006, 10:23 AM
Sephiroth would win this hands down.

~ Masamune ~
04-14-2006, 02:32 PM
Sephiroth, he has the power to summon powerfull beings,SSSSSSSSSSSS level Jutsus (magic :p), his supernova move is more then enough to kill hundred nins,superspeed,etc etc..

I like Yondaime alot,but it's too much for him to handle

ZE
04-14-2006, 03:43 PM
Sephiroth, he has the power to summon powerfull beings,SSSSSSSSSSSS level Jutsus (magic :p), his supernova move is more then enough to kill hundred nins,superspeed,etc etc..

I like Yondaime alot,but it's too much for him to handle
Agree, I too like yondaime but shephirot is too powerful.

Gambitz
04-14-2006, 03:57 PM
i dont know who Sephiroth is but i say Yondaime

ZE
04-14-2006, 04:15 PM
i dont know who Sephiroth is but i say Yondaime
Shephirot is the true name of yondaime, so this is a yondaime vs yondaime.

zizou
04-14-2006, 04:27 PM
Shephirot is the true name of yondaime, so this is a yondaime vs yondaime.
damn you fanboy!! :nuts

Shephirot wins.

Lord Prime
04-14-2006, 07:32 PM
hard to say, but both are kool but ill have to go with Shephirot.

NU-KazeKage
04-20-2006, 03:27 PM
sephiroth all the way

kapsi
04-22-2006, 09:37 AM
okay..................

Kisame
04-22-2006, 12:58 PM
Sephiroth wins. He can fly then cast crazy spells.

x_Zen_x
04-23-2006, 10:37 AM
Sephiroth
Yondaime would try seal his Soul then Sephiroth says " I have no soul"

Bam bam haduken lol

Sasuke1_2
04-25-2006, 07:47 PM
Sephiroth would win.....cause the guy can't really die permanently as seen in FF7 Advent Children.

We saw him come back through whatever was in that box that was infused into Kadaj. If he can come back like that then it could happen again. I will never be a memory

If Yondaime ever did kill him which would be extremely difficult........then Sephiroth would eventually come back.....

And if this is just a one time fight.....then I still say Sephiroth cause the guy is super fast (faster than Yondaime even though Yondaime is fast) and he can fly. Not only that, he can also use Supernova........can do a move like Sin Heatless Angel from Kingdom Hearts 2 and can also teleport. He has also been seen to do meteoralso from Kingdom Hearts 2.

It all comes down to Sephiroth the victor.:nod

Chas3265
04-25-2006, 09:08 PM
For all the reasons stated above. Sephiroth wins. Also I just watched Advent Children for the 6th time(this time in English!!!)

Keollyn
04-26-2006, 01:18 AM
Unfortunetly, I don't know who the other contender is (Yondaime) But since it is Sephiroth he/she is fighting and Sephiroth lost to Cloud more than once and Cloud < Water.... I think you get the picture I'm drawing.

Azure-kun
04-26-2006, 01:30 AM
it would be close but I'd pick septh since he's Imortal and has Sin Harvest.

whitecrowz
04-26-2006, 08:33 AM
retter wins easily (sephiroth)

Cy
04-26-2006, 12:57 PM
I'd say it'd be closer then people think. Sephiroth isn't really immortal (if a child of Jenove comes into contact with Jenova, then they could become Sephiroth) and Yondaime is also really powerful. I personally think that Yondaime would win. Why? First, there's the whole teleport/super-speed tech he has. Also, Yondaime is a lot faster then Sephiroth. Sephiroth may be more then human, but I doubt even he could survive being decapitated. Also, there isn't much known about Yondaime- only that he had that super speed jutsu, rasengan, and sealed the Kyuubi. For all we know he could have some ultimate jutsu capable of taking out a small city. I'd like to see Sephiroth stand up to that...

But seriously, I think Yondaime's much greater speed would give him a large advantage over Sephiroth.

AssFace
04-26-2006, 03:33 PM
^The strongest ninja's in Naruto at best can topple a city. Sephiroth nearly destroyed the WHOLE WORLD with one summon. And since Yondaime nor does anyone in Naruto have knowledge of what the lifestream is, thier doomed.

Knights of the Round>>>>Yondaime.

Cy
04-26-2006, 03:49 PM
IF Sephiroth had destroyed the world, he would have died, too. And last time I checked, Sephiroth didn't have knights of the round.... (besides, I'm sure Yondaime could dodge it...)

AssFace
04-26-2006, 03:52 PM
^Um, no didn't you follow the story of FFVII? If sephiroth destroyed the world, he goes the the promised land. =)

And in FFVII AC, Kadaj's(sephiroth) gang took all the materia, which probably included knights of the round.

Sasuke1_2
04-26-2006, 04:25 PM
Unfortunetly, I don't know who the other contender is (Yondaime) But since it is Sephiroth he/she is fighting and Sephiroth lost to Cloud more than once and Cloud < Water.... I think you get the picture I'm drawing.

Yondaime is the Fourth Hokage:amuse

Mizuiro
04-26-2006, 05:37 PM
I would think that it would really depended on the battlefield. If it happened in Final Fantasy, Sephiroth would win, I have no doubts.
However, if their surroundings were in the Naruto "world" then, the battle would be more even. There, Yondaime has an advantage with his surroundings, and his body flicker.
It would altogeher be a different story if Naruto battled, and had the Yondaime's techniques. (You do know what I'm trying to get at, here.)

I happen to like Yondaime, much better. I think that Yondaime could win, but we haven't seen the full extent of his power, so my entire post was completely irrelevant.

Ashura
04-26-2006, 07:41 PM
Because I havent really seen anything too special from Yondaime...I have to give to man who caused uber destruction Sephiroth.

Cy
04-26-2006, 08:24 PM
^Um, no didn't you follow the story of FFVII? If sephiroth destroyed the world, he goes the the promised land. =)

And in FFVII AC, Kadaj's(sephiroth) gang took all the materia, which probably included knights of the round.

I've beaten FF7 and I've seen FF7 AC. I personally think the whole promised land thing is just delusions of grandeur. As for the materia thing, didn't you notice that Sephiroth had not materia in FF7 AC? Kadaj had some, but not Sephiroth. Otherise, Sephiroth would have likely used some of the other techs. Also, Yuffie still had a bunch of materia, even after Kadaj's group stole a bunch. With a materia as rare as knights of the round, I bet Yuffie would have had it and not Cloud.

Noxid
04-26-2006, 09:29 PM
I wouldn't know... it would be an awesome fight but Sephiroth would win no matter what.

Cy
04-26-2006, 10:00 PM
I still think Yondaime. He has Sephiroth completely outclassed with speed, and you can't hurt what you can't hit...

Nyat
04-26-2006, 11:45 PM
Exactly, and Sephiroth can fly, thus taking himself completely out of Yondaime's range. Then he can use any number of incredibly destructive spells/abilities. Besides, Sephiroth as a FF7 character can take punishment that is beyond imagining in Naruto. I'm fairly certain if you took a machine gun to Yondaime's face (no dodging) he would be flat out dead, Sephiroth however would ignore the attack. Yondiame's only shot would be to use the Death God, but thats more of a double K.O.

Cy
04-27-2006, 12:24 AM
I still think you guys are underestimating Yondaime... I mean, a Hokage has over 1000 techniques. I'm sure he would have dozens that could easily even the odds.

Fenix
04-27-2006, 05:39 PM
i dont know who Sephiroth is but i say Yondaime

This is why the U.S voting age is 18: to keep young folks from ruining the poll

Azure-kun
04-27-2006, 05:50 PM
This is why the U.S voting age is 18: to keep young folks from ruining the poll

it's also the rezon why americanz are so stoucked to rob a 7 eleven store weither then then own one.:notrust

Sasuke1_2
04-27-2006, 07:30 PM
Come on,people...let's keep to the topic.....there shouldnt be no comments like that coming from u Wonderz cause thats discrimination:notrust Keep to the topic people.

Son_Pan
04-27-2006, 07:54 PM
Sephiroth.

yondaime cant take over the planet without anyone stoping him. eventually cloud did, but that took awhile. i bet if yondaime DID try to take over, sandaime would probably stop him. since he is his sensei.

Sasuke1_2
04-27-2006, 07:58 PM
Sephiroth.

yondaime cant take over the planet without anyone stoping him. eventually cloud did, but that took awhile. i bet if yondaime DID try to take over, sandaime would probably stop him. since he is his sensei.

Jiraiya is Yondaime's sensei:P

Azure-kun
04-28-2006, 12:00 AM
Come on,people...let's keep to the topic.....there shouldnt be no comments like that coming from u Wonderz cause thats discrimination:notrust Keep to the topic people.


I'm just agreeing with FireMaw. . .but yeah even if sephorth summoned a metior to destory the world the Yondaime still can work ahead of time. Remember it took atleast 2 months for people to realise a commit was gonna hit there asses. and personally I dont see how soidler(samuri :huh ) could naturally beat a shinobi.


none the less it would be a very close battle.

Sasuke1_2
04-28-2006, 12:03 AM
I'm just agreeing with FireMaw. . .but yeah even if sephorth summoned a metior to destory the world the Yondaime still can work ahead of time. Remember it took atleast 2 months for people to realise a commit was gonna hit there asses. and personally I dont see how soidler(samuri :huh ) could naturally beat a shinobi.


none the less it would be a very close battle.

Well he can do Meteor but a more quicker version of it. The one ur talking about is the massive one which took like 2 months(like u said) to his the planet:amuse

Azure-kun
04-28-2006, 12:17 AM
Well he can do Meteor but a more quicker version of it. The one ur talking about is the massive one which took like 2 months(like u said) to his the planet:amuse

the mini version of that attack ( I think it's called sin harvest) is a joke. sorry could dodge it (if you know what your doing). regardless though lets go into raw info of there data. souldier said that septh was on of shinra's best.

and then we have Usamaki Ashira( I'm calling the Yondaime this now so bleh) who's proclamed the best hokage so far. . .

this requires serious re-thinking :wink

Cy
04-28-2006, 01:27 AM
Sephiroth.

yondaime cant take over the planet without anyone stoping him. eventually cloud did, but that took awhile. i bet if yondaime DID try to take over, sandaime would probably stop him. since he is his sensei.

First, there's the sensei thing that your wrong with.

Second, of course Yondaime couldn't take over the world... Every ninja country has dozens of people the strength of Cloud, Tifa, etc. (ok, maybe a slight exageration... But there are likely over a hundred in the world...)

As for with the whole gun argument... In FF7 you could shoot a naked person with a gun and not kill them. I think its safe to say that the guns there are no where near as strong as ours our here, otherwise Cloud would have died in the first mission.

Cloud: Ok! LEts blow that reactor!
Soldier: Stop *shoots*
Damage: 7934
Cloud: X_X

Sasuke1_2
04-28-2006, 04:56 PM
the mini version of that attack ( I think it's called sin harvest) is a joke. sorry could dodge it (if you know what your doing). regardless though lets go into raw info of there data. souldier said that septh was on of shinra's best.

and then we have Usamaki Ashira( I'm calling the Yondaime this now so bleh) who's proclamed the best hokage so far. . .

this requires serious re-thinking :wink

Well of course,I never said the attack wasn't easy to dodge:wink.....though I still think Sephiroth has the advantage

Alchemy
04-29-2006, 02:21 AM
Yondaime: -does hand seals-

Sephiroth: -slices him in half before he could finish the jutsu-

sephiroth wins even tho yondaime is extremely powerful >.>

i HATE sephiroth hes annoying in kh and kh2 in FF7 not as anoyin tho

Doran
05-07-2006, 11:00 PM
What about in Last Order. Sephiroth was able to overpower Zach just like that. But when we see Zack faced with numerous soldiers with smg's, he dodges the bullets as if they were nothing. From that observation comes this train of logic.

Sephiroth is completely superior to Zack in every way concerning physical ability.

Zack can dodge bullets

Therefore, Sephiroth can also dodge bullets. Or better yet, block them (since Cloud didn't have much trouble doing so himself)

Unless the Yondaime was faster than a bullet, I don't think his incredible speed will give him such an advantage that Sephiroth cannot take him down.

And as for Cloud beating Sephiroth, I have to say that Sephiroth was just playing around too damn much.

When Cloud threw Sephiroth down in the reactor, that was a fluke, Sephiroth wasn't expecting that, and he was a bit weaker back then, so much weaker that being run through by a giant sword would hurt very badly (note the limping).

In the final battle in AC, Sephiroth was dominating the entire battle, no matter how well Cloud was holding his own. And at the end, Sephiroth could have killed him, but nooooo, he had to make sure Cloud was feeling despair. And once again, Sephiroth assumes there is nothing Cloud can do, and then what do you know, Cloud pulls of some super upgraded omnislash technique and takes the win. I mean, come on! Cloud was the one who had to catch his breath during the battle. Sephiroth didn't even break a sweat.

If anything, the yondaime would win because of sephiroth's bad habit of underestimating his opponent, which, by the way, is a bad thing to do when facing one of the most powerful ninja to have ever been born. Give him an inch and he will take a mile.

Azure-kun
05-07-2006, 11:16 PM
What about in Last Order. Sephiroth was able to overpower Zach just like that. But when we see Zack faced with numerous soldiers with smg's, he dodges the bullets as if they were nothing. From that observation comes this train of logic.



and yet the Yondaime can move at the speed of light by using 2 hand sealz. . .yah 4 Hokage wins.

Sasuke1_2
05-07-2006, 11:27 PM
Sephiroth can fly though. He just stay in the air and attack Yondaime. Unless about 7 people give him a boost and Yondaime pulls a "Cloud" to hit his oppenent in the air:imslow

Azure-kun
05-07-2006, 11:30 PM
Gammabunto goes Postal and ripe seph apart with his shank...

Sasuke1_2
05-07-2006, 11:33 PM
Gammabunto goes Postal and ripe seph apart with his shank...

What about moves like Sin Heartless Angel, meteor, and teleporting?:oh I'm sure it won't a slaughter.

Azure-kun
05-07-2006, 11:42 PM
What about moves like Sin Heartless Angel, meteor, and teleporting?:oh I'm sure it won't a slaughter.


fireboil jutsu take down sin harvest...(fire Vs rock. . .)
just like when naruto trasnformed Gammbunta into 9-tails fox Yondaime can also snchyino jutsu with it, thus speed of light+ geat frog = hard time for speh's teleporting and angel trasnformation.:oh

Sasuke1_2
05-07-2006, 11:48 PM
.............mother?:oh...............

ethier way we know its a close fight.I would actually want to see these two go at it.:nod

Azure-kun
05-07-2006, 11:55 PM
.............mother?:oh...............

ethier way we know its a close fight.I would actually want to see these two go at it.:nod

I'm experiancing brain damge thinking about it.:(

superbatman86
05-08-2006, 01:09 AM
Sephiroth without even trying.He was chopping apart buildings like they were butter in AC.He was just toying with cloud at that point.

Sho
05-08-2006, 08:51 AM
My god Sephiroth would rape Yondaime.

First of all, Naruto characters do not have the reaction time to dodge bullets. Kishimoto himself stated this in an interview, that's why he didn't want weapons that could shoot projectiles in the series. The people who would have the best bet of dodging that would be Sharingan users, and last time I checked, Yondaime does not have a Sharingan. It doesn't matter if Yondaime can teleport, since he'll need to make the seals in a blink of an eye to even hope to teleport out of the way. And bullets would travel faster than he could put up his hands and make handseals.

Sephiroth does not share those limitations. He IS faster than bullets, not to mention his attacks are as well. Him and Cloud literally fight on a much higher and faster level human beings should be able to, and where their own reaction time is faster than any bullet.

If Yondaime summoned Gamabunta, he'd only be wasting chakra. Gamabunta would be absolutely raped over by Sephiroth's Masamune blade. Sephiroth, even when he was in Soldier and not at his strongest, defeated that dragon that attacked Shinra's caravan in only a couple of moves. I won't even mention the fact that Sephiroth is stronger than anything that Cloud could summon including Bahamut, and which all could destroy Gamabunta with ease. In fact, the only monster that was perhaps Sephiroth's level is Ruby Weapon (that cheating sunovabitch)

If Yondaime tried to use Hiraishin on Sephiroth, Sephiroth could just easily fly and stay up in the air and litter the place with Comet. Or even if he stayed on the ground, Yondaime's teleporting locations would only be on places where he makes a seal. Sephiroth's reaction time is much faster than Yondaime's, so even if he teleported behind him, Sephiroth would be able to not only counter attack him, but eviscerate him with Masamune. Or he could just end him right there with an Ultima attack since it hits the whole area. Even if Yondaime managed a hit, a Rasengan nor a kunai will not even make that much damage on him, if any (just look at when the dragon attacks Sephiroth when he and Zack face it).

Not to mention that Sephiroth could just end the battle at any time if he uses the Time: Stop Materia. Yondaime cannot counter not even that simple technique since he has no materia. It would effectively make everything including Hiraishin useless since it would end the battle right there. A Time: Slow Materia would be very effective as well.

As you can see, I'm not even counting Sephiroth's other forms like the Angel form, or that monster form. He just doesn't need it. His normal form is more than enough for anything in the Narutoverse. If I do count in his other forms, then Yondaime is just fucked, straight out. Unless if he could survive things that could damage a large part of the earth, there's no way he could survive.

Seriously, Sephiroth would kill anyone in the whole Narutoverse, living or dead. A better matchup would have been him versus Kyuubi, but I doubt Kyuubi would be anywhere near his level still.

Sasuke1_2
05-08-2006, 05:26 PM
This fight is one sided........Sephiroth would own him when he gets serious. If seph doesnt get serious then like i stated, its a close fight to a certain extent.

Darth Judicar
05-09-2006, 12:43 AM
Sephiroth. This would be a very close battle in my opinion but I'm giving Sephiroth my vote, as he is nearly a superhuman with his Jenova cells and Mako exposure. I trust most of you have seen what he's capable of in VII and AC, so figure. Yondaime could summon in this battle but I don't see why Sephiroth couldn't too, though I doubt he'd need to. There's no way Gamabunta could match his speed and a few quick slashes would finish him.

Pinkaugust
05-10-2006, 08:26 PM
For all the reasons stated above. Sephiroth wins. Also I just watched Advent Children for the 6th time(this time in English!!!)
agreed, Sephiroth wouldn't be beaten.. I need to see it in english lol, just for the hell of it..

Sasuke1_2
05-10-2006, 08:28 PM
agreed, Sephiroth wouldn't be beaten.. I need to see it in english lol, just for the hell of it..

it actually doesnt sound that bad:amuse

anyways yea.....this battle has been decided as i have mentioned before. Sephiroth wins:nod

i_be_ninja_zabusa
05-12-2006, 04:24 PM
Yondaime The yellow flash yeah he wins

ecelipse
05-13-2006, 05:54 AM
sephiroth yeah he rocks:thumbs