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Jordan311
09-10-2005, 11:18 PM
hahahaha.

Whaddya think of Naruto's new catch phrase? I'm assuming this is what he's saying now instead of dattebayo/tebayo, etc...

Later

Kenju
09-10-2005, 11:19 PM
Well there was one word that came to my mind personally. It's simple, yet explains it very well at the same time.




Gay.

Lullaby
09-10-2005, 11:24 PM
Believe it?!?!

Thats so..not right. O_O But I guess I could get used to it..

I agree with Kenju XD

Jester12
09-10-2005, 11:25 PM
Grrrrrrr.... they will pay for that! Anyway I got to agree, it does sound gay coming from him!

blind51de
09-10-2005, 11:31 PM
Psh, it works fine as a translation of "dattebayo".
I'm glad they made an effort to acknowledge the figure of speech, even if they didn't have to. Because no fansub/scanlation has EVER made an attempt to translate "dattebayo".

TenshiOni
09-10-2005, 11:33 PM
"Believe it" is more-or-less a correct translation for "Dattebayo".

I had no problem with it. The voice actor imbedded it great. Took me awhile to even notice it was the replacement.

TheVileOne
09-10-2005, 11:37 PM
It makes sense and is totally in character IMHO.

More senseless and insignificant bitching.

itachi_kage
09-10-2005, 11:38 PM
Psh, it works fine as a translation of "dattebayo".
I'm glad they made an effort to acknowledge the figure of speech, even if they didn't have to. Because no fansub/scanlation has EVER made an attempt to translate "dattebayo".

i agree....

Jordan311
09-10-2005, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I don't mind it. He doesn't really say it as often as "datebayo" was said in the Japanese eps, I don't think... But even if he had said it that often it would have gotten annoying.
Either way, it's not too bad of a translation, and it doesn't stick out too much, although I noticed it pretty much the first or second time he said it. But it's not a bad little catch phrase.

Later

martryn
09-10-2005, 11:38 PM
I didn't notice it at all the first time I watched. I'll have to listen for it in the future.

FFLN
09-10-2005, 11:40 PM
I like it.:thumbs

Jordan311
09-10-2005, 11:41 PM
More senseless and insignificant bitching.

erm... This topic wasn't made for bitching. Reread my first post, please. Because I was simply asking what people thought about it. I didn't say anything negative about it. In fact, only like two people in this topic don't like it. Most of the comments in this topic so far are all positive.
Why is everyone automatically going on the defensive?

Later

Saitou
09-10-2005, 11:49 PM
I personally like it. For all you people who hate it think of it this way, It could be worse...

*shudders at thoughts of lame catch phrases*

Gejimayu
09-10-2005, 11:53 PM
Believe it! Oh man, that was perfect. I'm going to start saying that every fifth word now. The best possible translation they could've come up with for dattebayo, and it worked! YES!

Splintered
09-11-2005, 12:01 AM
I was pleased. I was more scared that they would completely cut it out, it more and less translates the same since Dattebayo doesn't have a meaning. It works well.

De Monies
09-11-2005, 12:03 AM
yeah dattebayo and the sleeping cap is what defines naruto as who he is :laugh they had to somehow translate it as long as they don't use it as much at 'tebayo :tem

genjo sanzo
09-11-2005, 12:41 AM
man i didn't notice it was the replacement until i realized he had said it like, 50 times lol. Really not bad at all, makes it seem like its his catch phrase thats all.:tem

so believe it

Rin
09-11-2005, 01:26 AM
now everypost in the forum is gonna include "believe it"

De Monies
09-11-2005, 01:40 AM
now everypost in the forum is gonna include "believe it" half the people already have :sad 9TAIL-HOKAGE!! :laugh

Svenjamin
09-11-2005, 01:47 AM
hehehe this makes me so damn happy!

Here's why:

I haven't seen the dub yet, so i didn't know how much of an effort the dubbers made to capture the feel of the show. And to think that Naruto's trademark catch-phrase thingy was translated into "Believe it!" is probably the best they could have done. We didn't want the character to be reinvented for everyone else did we?

And besides, if it's so bad, then what would you have changed it to???

I can't wait to see it for myself, but I'm in Ausstralia. I hope someone released it on bit-torrent.

JofSD
09-11-2005, 01:49 AM
First person who makes the "Believe it! FC" gets my reps ;)

kakoishii
09-11-2005, 01:50 AM
man I will have to get use to it as I probably would have perfered that they didn't translate "dattebayo" at all however now I have this strange uncontrollable urge to use this catch phrase on an everday basis until someone notices :P kinda funny in a lame way

inumonky
09-11-2005, 01:54 AM
i thinkthe english version is great. They hardly did anything to it, except for the opening and the ending. and the blood. but the voices are pretty good, and the translations are awesome. They didnt butcher it. So far. I'm fine with it.

Enzain
09-11-2005, 02:03 AM
Everyone likes dattebyo better just cuz its foreign:amuse

kakoishii
09-11-2005, 02:09 AM
Everyone likes dattebyo better just cuz its foreign:amuse
naw, it's not that at least it isn't for me I just didn't think that would put "dattebayo" in context or translated to something english, in at all I just thought that if they ended up doing that it would become lame over time.

Phancy Pants
09-11-2005, 02:11 AM
Yeah I'm in Australia too, so won't be able to see it for a while, unless it's up for download soon. Hint Hint.

PinkNinj4
09-11-2005, 02:20 AM
I understand 'believe it' is a pretty good translation for the meaning of 'dattebayo', but..
everytime I hear Naruto say it, it just reminds me of 'Ripley's believe it or not'
"is this real? believe it!"
I don't think I can ever appreciate 'Believe it' over 'Dattebayo'.

Phancy Pants
09-11-2005, 02:25 AM
Can someone give me an example of a scentence with 'believe it?!', coz I seriously can't imagine how it fits in.

Jordan311
09-11-2005, 02:31 AM
Can someone give me an example of a scentence with 'believe it?!', coz I seriously can't imagine how it fits in.

For example:
"I'm gonna become hokage one day! You'll see! Believe it!"

or...

"Konohamaru, you can't become hokage unless you work hard. There is no easy way! Believe it!"

It sounds lame as hell in text, but they work it into his lines pretty well.

Later

Spidey
09-11-2005, 02:37 AM
^sure
naruto says this to Konohamaru at the end of ep. 2.(or something along these lines)
Naruto- "if you really wanna become hokage, you'll have to defeat me in battle. Believe it!"

yeah, at least I think that's how it went. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

EDIT: Crap too slow :(

Phancy Pants
09-11-2005, 02:44 AM
It sounds lame as hell in text

Yes. Yes it does.

Nihongaeri
09-11-2005, 03:07 AM
I must be stupid, because I didn't even notice it when watching... :blink

I suppose it's as good as anything else is for a "translation" of "ttebayo"...

SuikenUser
09-11-2005, 03:15 AM
I thought "Believe it!" was the perfect replacement for "Dattebayo." It fits Naruto's character perfectly IMO.

pawly65
09-11-2005, 04:25 AM
While I think "Believe it" fits, it doesn't really sound as cool as I would have hoped. Nevertheless, it's not really something I mind too much.

XanBcoo
09-11-2005, 05:02 AM
I liked it.

It did sound a little lame at times, but along with everyone else, I loved how they kept the figure of speech in there. It's a good translation of it as well...that it is.

:p

krzyvietboi2k5
09-11-2005, 05:43 AM
OMFG its so catchy, believe it believe it believe it believe it believe it believe it. :)

vick86
09-11-2005, 05:52 AM
Yeah i noticed that one after it was said twice. (It was already in one of the commercials) So yeah, Believe it. Only problem is that it doesn't work when he asks a stupid question.
Just Imagine: So what is this chunin exam, Believe it? I guess it will be used less than Dattebayo.

But it's a great line worthy of Dattebayo. I'm already addicted, Believe it.

Phancy Pants
09-11-2005, 08:57 AM
Watched the 1st episode, and I gotta say, it sounds cornier by the minute. It was ok at the start, but then it just kinda.....well, the opposite of 'grew on me', like, died on me or something.

9TalesOfDestruction
09-11-2005, 09:24 AM
I was wondering if everybody would notice....lol

I think it's fine,

BushidoPunk
09-11-2005, 09:35 AM
God damn did Naruto whore the phrase "Believe it!" Much like he whored the phrase Dattebayo and it'll probably get annoying too.

B☆Cosmo
09-11-2005, 09:43 AM
XD I think the phrase is cute and funny all in one. Of course you can't use it as frequent as Dattebayo, but what the hell. It seems to fit the Dubbed Naruto. :D

Kylene
09-11-2005, 10:00 AM
I like it! For all we know Dattebayo is repetitive as hell if you're a Japanese viewer, so it doesn't really bother me that it could get redundant.

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-11-2005, 11:51 AM
cool, looks like my guess was right: http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=1960872&postcount=334

anyway I really like this phrase.Im glad they acknowledged him having a catch phrase replacement, and there are so many worse ones they could have come up with, like "Oh Yeaaah!" or a lame ripoff.

"Beleive it" is somewhat unique and can be said in a ton of situations. It can even be used when serious and crying, like I can already imagine Naruto telling Sasuke " I'm going to bring you back to Konoha even if I have to break your BONES! Beleive it..."

And I guess all the episode titles that had Dattebayo at the end will be replaced with "Beleive it" now. Anyone who thinks this is a lame phrase probably hasnt heard the type of people that generally use it. So far the only people Ive heard use the phrase alot are New Orleans rappers and gangsters on that "Hood 2 Hood" dvd trying to emphasize a point. "The Magnolia Projects hold it down, Beleive it" or C- Murder-"I'ma merk yo bitchass you ever set foot iround here, Beleive it"
or Ziggler the Wiggler "B Gizzle is the muthafuckin heart of the streets! Beleive it"
They also use a variation of the phrase just as often "Beleive that". Weezy had an entire song with the title: http://www.lyrics007.com/Lil'%20Wayne%20Lyrics/Believe%20That%20Lyrics.html

and Raw Dizzy has a new one with the same title you can dl off his new "1000 miles to downtown" mixtape at http://www.youngmoneyent.tk/ under multimedia

anyway this is a phrase Naruto can use even after he gets older and hardcore without problem.

ahir
09-11-2005, 12:00 PM
Its alright as a catchphrase, it certainly could've been worse than that. The catchphrase I didn't like so much was that of Inner Sakura...'I kick butt' doesn't have the same ring to it as 'Shannaro!'

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-11-2005, 12:14 PM
Its alright as a catchphrase, it certainly could've been worse than that. The catchphrase I didn't like so much was that of Inner Sakura...'I kick butt' doesn't have the same ring to it as 'Shannaro!'

wow, i did hear her say that, but I just thought that was her inner self talking. I seriously hope she doesnt say that repeatedly...
cant think of a good repacement for shannaro though. Maybe if she said "Alright!" or something in a non lame voice itd work. Maybe "Let's Go" or something without sounding like Mario saying "here we gooo!"

The worst I could imagine is "Super Duper!" in anchorman voice

TenshiOni
09-11-2005, 12:17 PM
Of course, Sakura's "Shannaro" hasn't been changed to "I kick butt!!".

Shannaro can be used for many different occasions....."Hell yeah!", "I kicked butt!!", "YES!!", "Oh, yeah!!!", "Alright!!!!"....it's all good.

Yami no Takeshi
09-11-2005, 12:40 PM
I think it works for Naruto.
It suits his character.

Ikaramashu
09-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Im totally okay with it is awesom belive it

Mr. Toto
09-11-2005, 01:20 PM
Really works. I didn't notice until the encore, and it just fits. No problem there.

Naluto
09-11-2005, 01:41 PM
I like it as well

Ruri
09-11-2005, 01:57 PM
I'm fine with it, the phrase suits Naruto well.

I am wondering what they'll do for Sakura's "Shannaro!" though.

Lord-Mortez
09-11-2005, 02:23 PM
He says that.. i didnt notice :tem

Rudox
09-11-2005, 02:57 PM
It sounds silly and stupid, but then again Naruto is silly and stupid so I guess it works for him. It also sounds like something a wrestler would say as a catchphrase. Hulk Hogan: "You better believe it, brother!"

Procyon
09-11-2005, 03:04 PM
"Believe it" is more-or-less a correct translation for "Dattebayo".

I had no problem with it. The voice actor imbedded it great. Took me awhile to even notice it was the replacement.

I didn't even notice myself. [Read manga, never watched sub, but I knew Naruto said that...] It really doesn't seem that bad to me though. Things can be alot more ghey, like :thumbs looks to me. :P

shinobda
09-11-2005, 03:34 PM
Thank God I wasn't the only one who noticed this, he aleast said it 5 times! Couldn't he have said it differently, like "trust me!" ?

I thought it meant, "you know?" well it doesn't make sense if he says, nane dattebayo,

what? trust me!
What? believe it!
what? you know?

pfft. ok so it does make sense, in some situtations... :oh :tem Oh well.

fakechief
09-11-2005, 03:38 PM
it works great i love it

kitana
09-11-2005, 03:50 PM
To be honest I never really took in concideration taht he even said dattebayo. If Dattebayo is translated correctly as 'Believe it' then it should be okay. I dont have cable but I saw the clip on the site and it seems like they tried to keep the lines original but they have baddddd pronounciation.

Tsuuga
09-11-2005, 06:14 PM
"Believe it" is an awesome translation of "dattebayo." If it had been "y'know" or something as annoying, I wouldn't be able to stand it. It's also completely in-character with Naruto.

Ikke AshLEE
09-12-2005, 12:42 AM
When the Naruto gear comes out in October, I want a shirt that says "Believe it!" XD

Actually...that would probably get me shot. But it's a great phrase to use if you want to annoy the heck out of the sub elitists.

Crap, that's going to get me shot, too. Geez, I can't win.

Honestly...I didn't realize "Believe it!" was the new "Dattebayo!" until it was mentioned here. I think it's sort of cute, actually. As long as they use it in proper context, then I'll be fine.

(has sudden, unexplicably powerful urge to make the "Believe it!" FC but isn't an influential enough member to coerce people to join, not to mention has terrible artistic skills and couldn't make a pretty banner for it)

Creative Name
09-13-2005, 08:22 PM
I remember hearing Believe it! Sounds fine. I didn't know it was the translation for dattebayo until it was pointed out to me. I didn't even know what dattebayo was. I just know that I heard it a lot. :P

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 08:31 PM
Believe it was very good for "dattebayo". Whatelse could it have been? Ya know would've been ok, but believe it was just as good.

Sikitur
09-13-2005, 08:35 PM
ohhhhhhhh...so thats why he says dattabayo after his sentences...
I was wondering why he was the only one saying it -_-

yeah..ya know would have been better...but i dont mind believe it

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 08:37 PM
God, I hope people don't use my statement out of context. -_-

Archssor
09-13-2005, 08:47 PM
Belive it! lol

Sakura & Sasuke forever
09-13-2005, 08:53 PM
Believe it? It's ok i suppose.But then again i dunno what "dattebayo" Means :(

trooper11
09-13-2005, 08:56 PM
well i think it was a good try , its pretty difficult to make a proper translation of the phrase.

but, as much as Ive heard 'believe it', i just get a little annoyed lol. its not the repetitiveness as much as the phrase, which i have heard in alot of other things on shows or movies. Its just a tad on the overused side if you ask me.

So I was thinking about it, and 'Count on it' came to mind. I think that fits really wlel with naruto's character, sense he is always so determined and I like hearing it over and over more then 'Believe It'.

Of course itll never be changed so i suppose itll grow on everyone eventually lol

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Well, no one really knows, but I think it's somewhere in the FAQ.

Blackvoice
09-13-2005, 08:58 PM
it would have been better is he said "for shizzle" :rofl

Sakura & Sasuke forever
09-13-2005, 09:06 PM
it would have been better is he said "for shizzle" :rofl
LOL!!!!!!!!!!:laugh

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 09:06 PM
I can imagine that.

I will kill Mizuki, shizzle!.

Maleficent
09-13-2005, 09:09 PM
it would have been better is he said "for shizzle" :rofl

Hehehehe... Good one.

But seriously, I think "Believe it!" is a good catch phrase [at least it's not something really lame like... um... can't think of one right now]. I didn't really notice that Naruto was saying it until I really paid attention.

Sakura & Sasuke forever
09-13-2005, 09:11 PM
I didnt notice until i saw this thread!XD

Ami
09-13-2005, 09:17 PM
I agree with all of you
I "belive it"
man i didnt know some stuff was different here....O.O

dbcomix
09-13-2005, 09:23 PM
"believe it" sounds cool.

thats a tight ass catch phrase!

"i'll kick yo ass, believe it!"

ohohohohoohohohohohoho. ;}>

road_rash
09-13-2005, 09:32 PM
I actually like the saying, it sounds like something I would say :D

snowlock
09-13-2005, 09:48 PM
i noticed in the dub, but i didn't make the connection until i saw this thread
personally, i'm okay with it
considering before that i was always wonder what in the world he kept saying ALL the time

i agree with two responses in particular in here:
people do like the original phrase better because it's foreign
that's why i like it better

also someone said "ya know" would be better, but i say that depends
if he doesn't shorten the phrase in the original, the lipflap would be (more)off
ie. dattebayo-->believe it
tebayo----->ya know

longest first post i've ever made

AstralSky
09-13-2005, 10:08 PM
Good job snowlock. Finally someone with logic.

Hotaru
09-13-2005, 10:15 PM
I noticed it right away - eh, I'm iffy on it right now.

DeathIsComing
09-13-2005, 10:22 PM
i kinda like it. it's something naruto would and did say, and you cant expect them to say "dattebayo".

Blackvoice
09-13-2005, 10:23 PM
"believe it" sounds cool.

thats a tight ass catch phrase!

"i'll kick yo ass, believe it!"

ohohohohoohohohohohoho. ;}>

ok now seriously wouldn't it be better is he said
"i'll kick yo ass, for shizzle!"
or even better
"i'll kick your ass, Bes belie dat"

you could even take it as far back as
"i'll kick your ass , word is bond"

Hyuga 4 Eyes
09-15-2005, 03:51 AM
I dont know if anybody has posted this yet, but ive noticed that Naruto now says "you better believe it" too often. It didnt make sence until I started thinking, why is he saying that over and over again?

Answer - It is translation teams version of "Dattebayo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Now the question is, what will replace Shannaro? :amazed

Windy
09-15-2005, 04:14 AM
Now the question is, what will replace Shannaro? :amazed

Maybe "hell yeah!!!"? :P
I remember it being translated that way several times...

Marsala
09-15-2005, 05:09 AM
Maybe "hell yeah!!!"? :P
I remember it being translated that way several times...
Eeek! No! Little kids can't be let to hear the word "h-e-double-hockeysticks". It should be "heck yeah!" or "oh yeah!" (hmm... might summon Kool-Aid Man... maybe not) or "hfil* yeah!" Because swearing is bad, especially in front of minors. Plus I really fucking hate bad language.



*HFIL = Home For Infinite Losers. Don't ask. Just don't.

Hyuga 4 Eyes
09-15-2005, 05:30 AM
HFIl was a funny one, I only saw bits and pieces of DBZ in its original Japanese version...but I could tell that HFIL was a Cartoon Network thing :)

I havent read the english Naruto manga so I dont know for sure if there is a translation for Dattebayo in the english manga. I can see them using "hell yeah" for Shannaro though.

Maybe Sakura will say "Hell's Fucking Yeah"...you know...to suprise the dumbfounded parents who might watch this with their kids :)

Gunshin
09-15-2005, 05:40 AM
That's the closest english translation of Dattebayo, which is kinda funny now that I remember people doubting me when I said this a long time ago in a "What does Dattebayo" mean thread.

chauronity
09-15-2005, 06:07 AM
Now the question is, what will replace Shannaro? :amazed

I kick butt.

Seriously.

Hyuga 4 Eyes
09-15-2005, 06:56 AM
um...http://www.msghelp.net/images/old_news.jpg

Hey dumbass, Naruto just came out last week on Cartoon Network, you are in the wrong forum.

genesisofire
09-15-2005, 09:53 AM
Hey dumbass, Naruto just came out last week on Cartoon Network, you are in the wrong forum.


But it's been discussed before, but it's still okay since noone discussed what shannaro might be. I'm guessing "I kick butt!" like chauronity guessed.

stormbreak
09-15-2005, 11:51 AM
What does the real HFIL mean??I know you told us not to ask but i want to know!

kapsi
09-15-2005, 12:00 PM
"Damn straight!"

RadishMan
09-15-2005, 12:07 PM
What does the real HFIL mean??I know you told us not to ask but i want to know!
In Hell there are signs that say Hell. But ya can't have that on TV. So Home For Infinite Losers. Same zip code though.

Zrco
09-16-2005, 06:41 AM
Now the question is, what will replace Shannaro?

Ohhh I know!!: "Oh yea Fuck you censorship!!! Kids go tell mom and dad to fuck off too..!!"

A little long but I would pay money to hear it said and to see the looks on mommy and daddy goodie two shoes fuck faces....

Splintered
09-16-2005, 10:25 AM
My guess is Shannaro will be translated differently each time it's used in a different context.

darkspark
09-16-2005, 04:46 PM
ya, haven't seen it yet, sorry. (this is my first post in 4 months!!!) (and my internet just got reconnected in my new appartment)

anyways, back to the subject. i'd almost have rathered they not try to translate it... but, like i said, i haven't seen it. it doesn't sound overly strange, does it? (i think it would) (to say "you better believe it" several times an ep.... just my opinion) though i guess i'll see it tonight on ytv...

Dark_wolf247
09-16-2005, 05:01 PM
I agree with the whole "i kick butt" thing. But that doesn't mean I like it. =/ I think it should be something like, "Fuck yeah!", but that'll never happen on a show for CN. :noworry

nightmarenny
09-17-2005, 03:17 AM
Man I wish she would say "Hell yeah" Dubbed manga did one thing right(only one) and that was leaving the the "Cursing" in(though hell isn't even cursing). Eh oh well.

Chibi Chan
09-17-2005, 01:30 PM
Eh I don't think it's so bad, I didn't blow up the T.V when I heard it or anything.

De Monies
09-18-2005, 08:06 AM
ahh but saying "hell" is kinda cussing I was never allowed to say it as a kid.

De Monies
09-18-2005, 08:11 AM
well at least there won't be any threads saying "what does 'believe it' mean?"

organizedcrime
09-18-2005, 08:45 AM
Um, so Shannaro has been officially replaced by Cha, right?

Oskar von Reuental
09-18-2005, 08:48 AM
Um, so Shannaro has been officially replaced by Cha, right?

Yeah, it sounded something like that.

"Shaw!" :laugh

organizedcrime
09-18-2005, 09:01 AM
Hmm, well according to my captions, it's "Cha!" Well, not the best, but I can't expect them to say "hell" can I?

TsukasaElkKite
09-18-2005, 04:15 PM
hahahaha.

Whaddya think of Naruto's new catch phrase? I'm assuming this is what he's saying now instead of dattebayo/tebayo, etc...

Later
it SUCKS! I hate it!

Danny Lilithborne
09-22-2005, 07:44 PM
it SUCKS! I hate it!

So what should he say, "I say it again"?

And stop ripping off my status line.

edit: Nevermind, I'll just change mine.

RockLee
09-22-2005, 09:57 PM
Uhhh, apparently, those who actually speak Japanese on this forum are quite pleased with "Believe It!", as they say it's the most accurate translation that wouldn't sound all wierd.

Naruto Ann
09-22-2005, 10:39 PM
If it weren't Pepper Ann saying "believe it!!!!!!" I wouldn't mind.

As is though, I hate it.

"Believe it."

Ikke AshLEE
09-23-2005, 01:21 AM
I still think the dattebayo replacement is cute, believe it.

Yeah, that's probably going to get annoying after a while. But right now it's still cool. ^.^;;

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-23-2005, 12:30 PM
Woulda put this in the thread on the phrase, but then it would probably get passed over by everyone soon as the thread gains another page.
Just wanted to prove to the people that keep saying this phrase sounds lame, only peoiple Ive heard say this line are straight up hoodlums.

Here you can hear for yourself, probably the most gangster rapper currently alive since his boy soulja slim got capped and C-Murder got locked up, B-Gizzle repeating this phrase several times throughout this track (he uses it in alot of other places too)
- http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QZLD4HQM7O3V2WST93NSKIOJ1

so listen to it and tell me what u think now. Naruto sounds like he might bust a cap in Sasuke next week.

Requiem for the light
09-23-2005, 01:09 PM
"Believe it" is the greatest thing to ever happen to this world. Ever.

R_Lee86
09-23-2005, 02:08 PM
You know it couldve been worse. They couldve left Dattebayo in and tried to pronounce it. *shivers at the thought*

Panzer Kunst
09-23-2005, 02:34 PM
It makes sense and is totally in character IMHO.

More senseless and insignificant bitching.

You have a knack for eloquence. I completely agree.

Yes, this would have been passed over because it doesn't deserve another thread if you're just going to complain about it. Since the english dub of Naruto is actually attempting to be reasonably authentic the translation of "dattebayo" as "believe it" works just fine because it is the closest translation available.

Honestly, you ask for authenticity and complain when you get it. You fanboys are difficult to please. If you don't like it, don't watch it. There are still fansubs for you to gather every week.

I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing this thread closed since it is a clone and the author simply wants to be heard.

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-23-2005, 02:50 PM
Yes, this would have been passed over because it doesn't deserve another thread if you're just going to complain about it. Since the english dub of Naruto is actually attempting to be reasonably authentic the translation of "dattebayo" as "believe it" works just fine because it is the closest translation available.

Honestly, you ask for authenticity and complain when you get it. You fanboys are difficult to please. If you don't like it, don't watch it. There are still fansubs for you to gather every week.

I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing this thread closed since it is a clone and the author simply wants to be heard.

the hell are you talking about, I never once complained about it, I was more telling people not to complain about it. The line is official and people who say its lame might dl this and change theiir opinions. People constantly pass over posts with dls in them, and obviously you barely even read this even when its the freaking topic.
Just wanted to prove to the people that keep saying this phrase sounds lame, only peoiple Ive heard say this line are straight up hoodlums.

Axass
09-23-2005, 05:22 PM
Woulda put this in the thread on the phrase, but then it would probably get passed over by everyone soon as the thread gains another page.
If every person fearing to have his posts overlooked would create a new thread, this forum would be a big mess. Sorry but I have to merge it.

In any case I can live with "believe it", it could've been much worse. They did a good job.

Kyuubi Naruto
09-23-2005, 05:28 PM
Perferably Id like to hear him say "dattebayo!!!!!" but thats just me

Panzer Kunst
09-23-2005, 07:54 PM
Perferably Id like to hear him say "dattebayo!!!!!" but thats just me

That would sound a little odd, switching between languages like that all the time at the end of every other sentence. I don't think I like the idea.

This is much like Kenshin's funny habit of saying "that it is" in the english dub. In the anime he says gozaimaru (or something like that) which, as far as I hear, doesn't mean anything even in japanese. It's just a little western touch, since Kenshin was supposed to be a little goofy anyway it fit pretty well.

It's the same thing, and I think it's fine.

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-23-2005, 08:23 PM
If every person fearing to have his posts overlooked would create a new thread, this forum would be a big mess. Sorry but I have to merge it.

In any case I can live with "believe it", it could've been much worse. They did a good job.

Yeah its cool I understand, and I agree beleive it is a great phrase. Its just Ive been getting kinda annoyed lately at all the multimedia links I post unless its one person on the page, no one checks it unless its in the topic just about, especially if I post it towards the end of the page. Were it just a normal post/rant I wouldnt have considered making a new thread but since it was a link I was hoping to get some feedback on/ change ppls minds with I thought it might merit a new thread but I could see how it might create problems too.
Thx for being nice about it Axass.

Cougar-kun
09-23-2005, 10:04 PM
It is gay, and scary..."Believe it"...:S *hides from Naruto in hopes of not hearing him say that*

DrunkenYoshimaster
09-23-2005, 10:08 PM
It is gay, and scary..."Believe it"...:S *hides from Naruto in hopes of not hearing him say that*

hey son, listen to the link I posted above and tell me if you think it sounds that way still.
Like I said when I posted before all those people who think its something used by uncool people are dead wrong. Beleive it is as Gangster as it gets. And I guess the people who read my topic before it got moved here hadnt heard of a G before and mustve thought I meant Gay and not Gangster, like the dude from Canada who read it. I guess I shouldve been more worldy since G is a phrase used mostly in america and short for gangster.

iggyspeedstars
09-24-2005, 04:14 AM
Believe it!

flyer00
09-24-2005, 05:28 AM
i liked dattebayo just fine

Naruto Ann
09-24-2005, 06:05 AM
Not that gangster is cool or anything. But I can hear it now. Instead of Viva Rock we'll have Naruto Ann doing some gangster rap. Thanks for that.

FYI, Kenshin's statements usually have de gozaru attached to them.

Kenshin: Hai, de gozaru.
Kenshin: Kaoru-dono, daijobu de gozaru yo?

It's nothing more than being extremely polite... or anyway, that's what I've read about it.

edit: forgot the word 'it.'

TheVileOne
09-24-2005, 09:28 PM
Didn't they translate that into English in a certain way? Didn't Kenshin say unworthy one or that I am?

Cougar-kun
09-24-2005, 09:46 PM
hey son, listen to the link I posted above and tell me if you think it sounds that way still.
Like I said when I posted before all those people who think its something used by uncool people are dead wrong. Beleive it is as Gangster as it gets. And I guess the people who read my topic before it got moved here hadnt heard of a G before and mustve thought I meant Gay and not Gangster, like the dude from Canada who read it. I guess I shouldve been more worldy since G is a phrase used mostly in america and short for gangster.
:notrust Son ???? I'm a girl...

I just think he says it at some awkward times...I'm not troubled by it. I feel he sometimes says it at the worng times...

AcidVenom
09-24-2005, 10:53 PM
"Believe it!" will be the death of me... my little brother has started using it while talking to me.... i was so close to just smacking him in the face....

Uchiha Inkatomi
09-24-2005, 11:10 PM
Didn't they translate that into English in a certain way? Didn't Kenshin say unworthy one or that I am?

Now that I think of it Kenshin does say that.

genesisofire
09-24-2005, 11:51 PM
Now that I think of it Kenshin does say that.



Kenshin always said "that it is" at the end of everything. But he didn't sound annoying when he said it. "Believe it" was okay for me in the beginning, but now it seems like it's wearing out. Kinda like the feeling when someone says a funny joke, then completely whores it the next couple hours when it's not the least bit funny anymore.

StarCraft
09-25-2005, 01:40 AM
belive it is gay... i would prefere if they had made up some intranslatalbe world... like... "i will kill you, tatupik"

muddysmind
09-25-2005, 08:57 AM
Well there was one word that came to my mind personally. It's simple, yet explains it very well at the same time.




Gay.

$$$$$$$

(that is beautiful sarcasm)

elloryluvsnaruto
09-25-2005, 12:27 PM
believe it is so annoying!!!!! i mean how did they get that from datteybayo? if i hear it one more time i will pop!!!

Mikeq64
09-25-2005, 02:36 PM
Believe is alright but if I hear like 50 times every episode well the tv will not be standing to long picks up gun you get it

Pro
09-25-2005, 02:56 PM
The dub will be perfect if its...

"F**K IT" instead of "BELIEVE IT"

hakke
09-25-2005, 03:45 PM
the phrase is perfect... if we count the times Narutos says dattebayo in the series -_-... yet all you hypocrites saying "oh its annoying", like DAttebayo WASNT annoying, geez.

Best thing about it, I say Believe it! and those who like it, smile... and those who hate it, hate it even more... awesome.

Believe it!

Narutomasterfan71
09-25-2005, 06:17 PM
Its not the fact that it sounds bad cuz maybe if they said it once or twice it would be so bad but they repeat it over...and over....and ove- i'm gettin bored thinkin about it! seriously tho there really trying to pound that catch phrase, if i were to guess, i'd say to make it easier to sell naruto merchandise, like dolls that say "BELIEVE IT!"

dark_nemesis_7
09-25-2005, 06:32 PM
Better than it getting translated to 'Eh' or 'Hey'.

King Speed
09-25-2005, 06:37 PM
oh god, we know belive it is if annoying, ummmmmm so what? we get the point, he says it like 13 times an episode and it's annoying even to hear--DUH!, i can't belive people are still bitching about belive it... go rant somewhere else, is it really that hard? just stop crying about.

organizedcrime
09-25-2005, 06:52 PM
Ahem, so just wondering, and I do support believe it, what do you think would be a better replacement for "believe it"? And if you say "anything, but that" I will neg rep you,

OniTasku
09-25-2005, 06:56 PM
Eh, I wasn't exactly too thrilled about this.

I didn't notice it in the first two dub episodes, but the third episode definitely emphasized the usage of "Believe it!!".

I can say it's going to take quite some time for me to get over it/used to it. I haven't exactly been hyped over the dubbing either. Although, I hope with time, the VA's will get more in character and it'll get better. It's about as much as I can hope right now.

King Speed
09-25-2005, 07:02 PM
Ahem, so just wondering, and I do support believe it, what do you think would be a better replacement for "believe it"? And if you say "anything, but that" I will neg rep you,

who, me :blink i like "believe it" i was saying thats what every body seems to think about. Believe is the best thing naruto could say, but people complain so much about it.

Narutomasterfan71
09-25-2005, 11:28 PM
again and for the last time people this is open discussion about the catch phrase beileve it, its peoples opionions so wat you may call bitching we call talking about, if your tired of the "bitching" get your ass out of this discussion then! For the record instead of believe it so many friggin times! how about naruto just said something simple like a 1 worder in japanese or english doesn't matter like (cyborgs from teen titan's boo yah !) that doesn't annoy me cuz he doesn't say it an extreme amount of times or somethin like this (off the top of my head) I swear! i would rather hear "I swear!" or "Swear it" than at the end of every sentence naruto says "BELIEVE IT!!!" for instance Stranger: Hey naruto how ya doin?
Naruto: Believe it! I'm doin alright, kinda tired. Believe it!

hakke
09-26-2005, 06:42 AM
Naruto says DA TTE BA YO... much more times than any sane person can tolerate. 4 sylables.. a big word, not a small word, YET we like it cuz its "japanese" and it sounds cool.

Believe it!

ArioNeko
09-26-2005, 07:20 AM
'Cause japanese is cool! Believe it!

nah-nah
09-26-2005, 11:11 AM
I don't care about "believe it!" anymore. I think it's actually as endearing as "dattebayo," after watching both versions of the first four episodes (not in a row, I'm not THAT odd).

Anyway, I don't see what's so wrong about it. We're just not used to hearing "believe it" all the time.

Oh well. I like it anyway and I'm just going to keep on watching it AND the Japanese version and like BOTH. OMG THAT'S POSSIBLE?!?!//!?!?!/121!?!11one!?

Yes it's possible! Believe it-ttebayo! XD

<3

Kousai
09-26-2005, 11:44 AM
I think it's the fact we don't have to read (fansubs translated or untranslated) dattebayo, I mean if I had to read sentences like that in the subs it'd get old quick, every time he says a full closed ended sentence it ends in dattebayo while believe can't be squeezed into every sentece the D word can

Narutomasterfan71
10-09-2005, 11:03 AM
Although I'm aware of this thread having come up once or twice I would like to point out that even though I'm not a huge fan of the catch phrase "Believe It!" and really don't think I'll ever be... I would just like to state that they are slowly using it less and less throughout the series, for instance when it was the first and second episodes it was used over and over again and i think i counted 5 or 6 times! But now after episode 6 yesterday I realized its use was slowly but surely descending down to 2 or 3 times and maybe in the near future it will be used 0 to 1 times an episode, for those of you who enjoy the catch phrase, Power to ya! I'm just openening this discussion to gage your reactions on whether you want it to stay or whether you would like it to go!

nah-nah
10-09-2005, 11:16 AM
I don't care either way. If Naruto's going to have a catch phrase or some kind of defining saying, I don't think "believe it" is so bad.

As annoying as it is to a lot of people, you have to admit that it suits his mentality. Believing in himself and his capabilities and his ability to become stronger is what helps him go on, I think.

And honestly... "dattebayo/-ttebayo" is said MUCH more often than "Believe it." We just don't notice it so much nor does it annoy us much because it's not in our own language.

That's all. ^^

I like either one, either way, just fine.

Qidori
10-09-2005, 11:21 AM
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it seem like they are inputting "believe it" into the place of where he often says dattebayo? It certainly seems like it to me. Similar to how they put in "that it is" where kenshin said gozaru. I think that in their trying to find the best translation possible, they decided to put a meaningless phrase in the place of a meaningless word.

hakke
10-09-2005, 11:22 AM
yea... whenever im listening, I always expect to hear believe it!... but guess what, its great that its been toned down. The fact that one likes the phrase doesnt mean saying it 10 times in every episodes is ok.

My guess is that they wanted you to know that was the catchphrase... but then tone it down, there's nothing wrong with that, quite the contrary, one less thing to complain about...

Believe it'ttebayo!:P

nah-nah
10-09-2005, 11:48 AM
XD Finally, "believe it-ttebayo" is catching on. ^^

And i don't think that they're exactly putting in "Believe it" EVERY time "dattebayo/-ttebayo" is placed in the original. Not once does Naruto say "dattebayo/-ttebayo" at the BEGINNING of his sentences. It's always near, or at the end.

It's just a way of speaking, I think. "Dattebayo/-ttebayo" is used MUCH more often.

ezxx
10-09-2005, 01:10 PM
It gets annoying to hear Naruto say believe it every other sentence, but it's a part of the script so it can't be helped.

And1balla2829
10-09-2005, 03:21 PM
I didnt mind at first but now that he uses it all the time its annoying as hell...

Kakashi22
10-09-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm not really annoyed by it. Actually I kinda like it.

And1balla2829
10-09-2005, 03:41 PM
I'm not really annoyed by it. Actually I kinda like it.
Excuse me!?:blink Did you just say you liked it.. how could that be possible. :huh What is this world coming too! :amazed

Narutomasterfan71
10-09-2005, 04:10 PM
yea... whenever im listening, I always expect to hear believe it!... but guess what, its great that its been toned down. The fact that one likes the phrase doesnt mean saying it 10 times in every episodes is ok.

My guess is that they wanted you to know that was the catchphrase... but then tone it down, there's nothing wrong with that, quite the contrary, one less thing to complain about...

Believe it'ttebayo! your right on the money! Thats "exactly" how I feel.

nah-nah
10-09-2005, 04:11 PM
People just have their own likes and dislikes. It doesn't mean the end of the world.

Actually, I like it too. It's kind of endearing.

And1balla2829
10-09-2005, 04:26 PM
People just have their own likes and dislikes. It doesn't mean the end of the world.

Actually, I like it too. It's kind of endearing.
................ naw, it is the end of the world :amuse :oh :oh

nah-nah
10-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Yes. People like the phrase "Believe it" and in doing so, we release deadly radiation called "Dub appreciation" that ends all life on earth.

:amuse Yeah, get ready for the end of the world. There is no turning back. That phrase is the Pandora's Box of the universe. Say your prayers. Here comes the end of life.

TGC
10-09-2005, 08:03 PM
well i dont mind it....atleast they found a replacement for dattebayo...believe it doesnt seem that bad...

Kool ka lang
10-09-2005, 09:53 PM
naruto uses dattebayo almost every time he talks.... "believe it" is used 1/4 the time.

Procyon
10-09-2005, 10:08 PM
Hmm...Well, either way its such a minor aspect of the series that I don't care, as long as the phrase isn't too repetitive.

n8dogg
10-09-2005, 10:28 PM
Naruto's little dattebayo thing gets really annoying. Much more so than "believe it".

BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT

DeathIsComing
10-10-2005, 12:45 AM
yea, he say it less in the dub than in the sub. becuase i just watched on of the earlier sub episodes, and naruto said "dattebayo" A LOT....heh, go dub!

TheVileOne
10-10-2005, 12:57 AM
I wonder if people would complain about if he said DATTEBAYO instead of Believe It.

nah-nah
10-10-2005, 12:58 AM
I'm sure that Japanese people have complained about dattebayo/-ttebayo a lot.

puffmonkie
10-10-2005, 12:58 AM
That's why I'm sticking to the subs. believe it!

mdd4696
10-10-2005, 01:01 AM
I'm sure that Japanese people have complained about dattebayo/-ttebayo a lot.

Well, I don't know any Japanese, but maybe it sounds more natural in Japanese to have a quick phrase like that? I know that listening to Naruto say "Believe it!" over and over just sounds weird.

Ikke AshLEE
10-10-2005, 01:57 AM
I noticed that he was saying "Believe it" a lot less recently too, which, even though I think the catchphrase is adorable, would eventually get irritating.

icoselitham
10-10-2005, 02:16 AM
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it seem like they are inputting "believe it" into the place of where he often says dattebayo? It certainly seems like it to me. Similar to how they put in "that it is" where kenshin said gozaru. I think that in their trying to find the best translation possible, they decided to put a meaningless phrase in the place of a meaningless word.
i think hes rite. Obviousy, Viz doesn't use fansubs for translation. Thats why it make sense for kakashi to say "a thousand years of death" since its a closer translation.

Believe it:narutokyu

Kakashi_owns
10-12-2005, 05:06 PM
I noticed "dattebeyo" in the subs a lot. He says it constantly but with the dub and "believe it" he doesn’t say it a lot. I have to say "Believe it" isn't as annoying as "dattebeyo" unless he says believe it after almost all his sentences.

Kazuo
10-12-2005, 05:14 PM
It's supposed to be annoying and piss you off... that's the point. He's not meant to be a awesome and cool character.

hazeleyes73
10-12-2005, 08:11 PM
ok i don't wan't to sound stupid here but what exactly does "dattebeyo" mean.

Naoko Tasaki
10-12-2005, 09:50 PM
I don't beleive there IS a translation, is there? It's sort of like Kenshin's 'Gozaru' or that girl from Fushigi Yuugi and Purin's 'No da'. It's just something that's said at the end of sentences.

'Believe it!' was REALLY annoying at first, but I like it as long as he doesn't like a million times per episode.

dragonbattousai
10-13-2005, 12:43 AM
This is good. I was watching Episode 4

icoselitham
10-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Ive never really notice naruto say "dattebeyo" in the subs since i was busy reading the subtitles, but now i hear "believe it" all over the place.

o0oEnderIlleso0o
10-13-2005, 10:12 PM
That's why I'm sticking to the subs. believe it!


Haha! Well put my friend!

Kyuriko
10-14-2005, 08:50 PM
I quite agree with Qidori about the translation bit. He says dattebayo constantly, I don't think "Believe it!" is any different. We wouldn't be able to be annoyed by dattebayo because most NarutoFans are not fluent in Japanese, hence, the reason they would download fansubs in the first place, am I right? I'm sure there are Japanese fans who find the dattebayo as annoying as we find the "Believe it!". As far as Kenshin, I've watched it in Japanese, and 'de gozaru' actually did manage to get on my nerves after a while. Dattebayo from Naruto and Jannero/Channero from Sakura has annoyed me from time to time as well.

A lot of people I know at school who have only watched the dub have begun to notice the catch phrase as well. My friends and I tag it to the end of a lot of our non-serious discussions because we like it and think it's really funny. I quite like it myself, actually… suits Naruto's persistent and determined personality.

Naoko Tasaki
10-14-2005, 10:55 PM
^_^ I watched the first movie again yesterday, and I think I noticed 'dattebayo/-ttebayo' a lot more now that I realized he said it. I had gotten the movie before I knew he said dattebayo, so I really didn't notice it.

After I watched the movie, I kept accidently putting dattebayo at the end of my sentences. My family thought I was crazy!

Nibi Nekomata
10-15-2005, 12:46 AM
I think that maybe "believe it" isn't used quite as much as dattebayo/-ttebayo is because the catchphrase in English isn't as versatile as it is in Japanese. Dattebayo/-ttebayo can probably be used in a lot more circumstances than "believe it" can.

In the subs when Naruto asks questions he sometimes uses dattebayo/-ttebayo, but using "believe it" in a question would be sort of awkward, if not impossible. I think the dub writers are doing a pretty good job, only trying to fit the English catchphrase in places were it would be most appropriate, so in that sense I appreciate the lesser amount. It would be a lot worse if they tried to stick it in places where it sounded overdone or strange. Along that line, the lower frequency of catchphrase uses just might have to do with the dialogue of the recent episodes. It might have just been harder for the writers to fit in a "believe it" that sounded believable with the lines used in the bell training mini-arc. Maybe we'll see a resurgence of "believe it"s during the Wave Country arc, especially since it has a lot more of Naruto being preachy.

2Shea
10-15-2005, 01:23 AM
Well, it all depends. I don't find the whole "Believe it!" thing too annoying considering it does fit Naruto's attitude. Now there were maybe one or two times that I thought it was sort of inapropriate, but its still okay. As far as them lessening it, that could be true. They may have just wanted to get some points of his attitude across, and then realized themselfs that it may have become too repeditive and cut back on its useage. I won't ever really mind it unless they start using it as much as Naruto does dattebayo in the japanese.

Okeaninai
10-22-2005, 05:15 AM
I love the "Belive it!" i think it's fuckin hellarious! it completly suits him too.

I can't speak to much since i've not had a chance to see the japanese version, but with what has been said on the matter - they had to find something that would make sence for the english, in english, and still have the same type of effect.

:eyeroll Theres alwas some sort of "unrest" over this sort of thing in anime world.

Haruka
10-22-2005, 02:27 PM
But if Naruto said, "Shinjite!" In the anime, then "Believe it!" would be proper for the american dub.

Nihonjin
10-22-2005, 05:19 PM
ok i don't wan't to sound stupid here but what exactly does "dattebeyo" mean.

"Dattebayo" is Tokyo dialect.
Dattebyo has a similiar meaning to "Desu".
Example: "Kore wa hon desu" translates in to "This is a book"
The difference is that its stronger if i say "Kore wa hon datte ba yo" it would translate as "How many times do I have to tell you that this is a book?" Or: " This is a book ya know!"

Well, I hope you get the picture.

RyuusaBakuryu_Gaara
10-22-2005, 11:52 PM
It annoys me greatly. It's good that he's not saying it as much.

hikaranko
10-23-2005, 02:12 AM
i actually prefer "dattebayo" to "believe it", even though i think that Naruto saying "believe it!" does make sense. it's still just funny to hear him say. hearing "(da)ttebayo" at the end of every sentence used to annoy me. but now i'm just used to it. it has even wormed its way into my speech when i speak japanese. i've found myself tempted to say "dattebayo" in my japanese class. :P

a lot of characters say something random at the end of their sentences. Reno from FF7 ends almost all of his sentences with "da zou tto". Gan-chan from Ah My Mini-Goddess ends all his sentences with "desu da". Kenshin ends his sentences with "de gozaru", and so on and so on... it's really not that uncommon for characters to have signature phrases.

X_Kakashi_X
10-27-2005, 05:56 AM
'Believe It' annoys me too.. I wish there wasnt any catch phrases at all.. That would be my own perfect world.. :amuse

Okeaninai
10-27-2005, 05:51 PM
'Believe It' annoys me too.. I wish there wasnt any catch phrases at all.. That would be my own perfect world.. :amuse

aww, but that ruins all the fun! :smile-big

Weltallgaia
10-27-2005, 08:00 PM
dattebayo is rather annoying as well, more so considering its every third word outta his mouth

missq
10-27-2005, 08:14 PM
yeah dattebayo did get on your nerves. Naruto seemed a lot more mature in the english manga when they didn't translate it at all.

Splyte
10-27-2005, 08:26 PM
i like the descention of belive it, even though he rarely says it now, we all still find it to be his catch phrase

NarutoUzumaki
10-27-2005, 08:40 PM
I don't care either way. If Naruto's going to have a catch phrase or some kind of defining saying, I don't think "believe it" is so bad.

As annoying as it is to a lot of people, you have to admit that it suits his mentality. Believing in himself and his capabilities and his ability to become stronger is what helps him go on, I think.

And honestly... "dattebayo/-ttebayo" is said MUCH more often than "Believe it." We just don't notice it so much nor does it annoy us much because it's not in our own language.

That's all. ^^

I like either one, either way, just fine.
But it's seemlessly integrated into the way he talks serious or carefree thats why more people like it

Kashama
10-28-2005, 02:06 AM
You could do without it, but it builds alot of emotion in the character.

Splintered
10-28-2005, 11:28 AM
I don't mind it. No fansub or fandub has ever bothered translating or keeping in Dattebayo because while it does sort of have a meaning, it's pretty much untranslatable. But he says it so often that it's a catchprase associated with him, so it wouldn't be as "Naruto-ish" if it was left out.

"Believe it" is pretty much a decent rendition of "Dattebayo" that also emphasizes his character. I thought it was a creative way of translation.

I never really notived dattebayo because I can't speak Japanese, but when after rewatching the subs he says it... a lot. If they kept dattebayo untranslated in the scripts, I assure you that we would all be whinning about how often he says it.

nah-nah
10-28-2005, 11:30 AM
But it's seemlessly integrated into the way he talks serious or carefree thats why more people like it
Of course more people like it. It's the original way Naruto talks. But people seem to think that "believe it" is the worst phrase ever, and I was just saying that I didn't mind it so much. Of course I like dattebayo/-ttebayo that Naruto uses, and there's not a direct translation for that in English, but I was just saying since there had to be an equivalent, "believe it" isn't so bad.

hatsuka
10-31-2005, 02:26 PM
It's friggin' annoying. He may as well tattoo the damn thing to his forehead.

Ikke AshLEE
10-31-2005, 03:55 PM
I've been putting "believe it" in a bunch of my posts lately. It started out as a joke, but now I've actually grown to like the phrase. It's not so bad, and he doesn't use it too much anymore.

Tori-dona
11-03-2005, 01:03 PM
i'd have to agree with the first post cause im not a big fan of his catch phrase either but i suppose it could be worst...

Fiend of Rockanomix
11-05-2005, 05:54 PM
I freakin' hate that line. I swear, as soon as he's about to say, I hit the mute button... like I do on most part of the English version. How can I explain this? Hmm... oh, here we go. In the English version, seals are called hand signs... perfect example. That's really annoying. I prefer Dattebayo versus Believe it. It's like episode #4 in the dubbed where Sakura is literally screaming and telling Naruto to get the hell outta' the way before Kakashi kills him (but actually sticks his fingers up his ass) versus Sakura just saying it like she's trying to talk to him and shows no urgency in the English version. A better example is episode 3 when Naruto accidentally kisses Sasuke, but in the English version, all they do is make the noise but don't show. Dattebayo is a bit smoother than Believe it anyway, so that's why I prefer it more.

Okeaninai
11-05-2005, 06:08 PM
I freakin' hate that line. I swear, as soon as he's about to say, I hit the mute button... like I do on most part of the English version. How can I explain this? Hmm... oh, here we go. In the English version, seals are called hand signs... perfect example. That's really annoying. I prefer Dattebayo versus Believe it. It's like episode #4 in the dubbed where Sakura is literally screaming and telling Naruto to get the hell outta' the way before Kakashi kills him (but actually sticks his fingers up his ass) versus Sakura just saying it like she's trying to talk to him and shows no urgency in the English version. A better example is episode 3 when Naruto accidentally kisses Sasuke, but in the English version, all they do is make the noise but don't show. Dattebayo is a bit smoother than Believe it anyway, so that's why I prefer it more.

If all your doing is muting so much, why then, do you torture yourself and watch the dub in the first place?

i'm not sure why you think Sakura doesnt show urgency in the scene you are using as an example for your point-of-view, but to each his own. *shrug*

yukidomari
11-05-2005, 11:21 PM
dattebayo =/= believe it

there're ways to say something more affirmatively then just completely coming out and saying 'believe it'

that's what dattebayo is, a way to say something more affirmatively.

on kenshin's speech, gozaru = casual form of gozaimasu = arimasu = aru. though not a lot of people use 'gozaru' or 'gozaimasu' in regular speech anymore except maybe the older generation (they like it when you use those!) or talking in business settings.

though the many many times he says dattebayo does get annoying >.<

though i supposed its the same for people who put 'like' into every sentence. it just seems a bit more natural to put 'dattebayo' instead of going out of the way to completely put in another phrase 'believe it'. its not quite possible for me to explain..

kakashi1234
11-12-2005, 11:50 PM
Yeh when naruto says Believe it all the time its like SHUT UP and say something else lol.

rageinfectedmonkey
11-13-2005, 01:51 AM
I think it would be hilarious if randomly in a sea of 'Believe It!'s Naruto just spouted off A dattebayo.
I miss dattebayo. >_<
*needs to DL the anime again*

Greed
11-13-2005, 04:55 AM
The show is still in the beginning stages here in the states... Hopefull his believe it's will die down, maybe. :cool

nah-nah
11-13-2005, 09:11 AM
Actually, the "BELIEVE IT!" really has died down, especially from the first few episodes. I only hear him say it a few times anyway, and it's grown on me. Believe it. XDDD

kakashi1234
11-14-2005, 01:17 AM
Actually, the "BELIEVE IT!" really has died down, especially from the first few episodes. I only hear him say it a few times anyway, and it's grown on me. Believe it. XDDD


yeh it has died down on me to.How about give him another phrase to say instead of believe it.Try and think of another one for him to say.It was pretty funny when nah-nah put the Believe it at the end lol.:P

Gazow
12-05-2005, 04:24 AM
i was just wondering, since i havent watched the begging eppisodes from the subbed versions, if on the cartoon network airings if the phrase "Believe it" was what he said exactly, it just sounds like it was somthing else in the subbed versions, lemme know thanks.

Ikari Shinji
12-05-2005, 04:31 AM
He says Dattebayo in the sub, which is by all accounts way more tolerable then Believe it!
Also I'm not quite sure it means Believe it, they just translated it like that

Goongasnootch
12-05-2005, 04:39 AM
I think I read someone in another thread that Dattebayo is some kind of way to emphasize the word "desu" (in English, "is/am/are"). Since our grammar structure is different something else had to be thrown in there that had the same effect.

mgrace
12-05-2005, 04:55 AM
No no no... でしょう Dattebayo is more like slang form of でしょう

Goongasnootch
12-05-2005, 05:00 AM
No no no... でしょう Dattebayo is more like slang form of でしょう

For those who don't actually read Japanese because they're not super hardcore and have to use a translator (like I just did), the Japanese from above translates to "probably will be".

mgrace
12-05-2005, 05:02 AM
すみません、時々 日本語は 英語で 翻訳しない。

Goongasnootch
12-05-2005, 05:07 AM
すみません、時々 日本語は 英語で 翻訳しない。

I know that. I never claimed for the translator to be perfect. But when there's a lack of Romanji and/or English translation I kind of have to improvise.

Are you done showing off now?

Midnight Infinitum
12-05-2005, 02:35 PM
I heard that it's just a nonsense word.
Or rather, I read that on the dattebayo site.

rued
12-05-2005, 03:03 PM
it means nothing really, its strange for someone to say it. and its a accent someone from the middle of no where would say *country person*.

Nihongaeri
12-05-2005, 03:24 PM
This is one of those things that there should be a good FAQ for...

Contrary to the very common misconception, Naruto's pet phrase (which is technically just "ttebayo" not "dattebayo") is not just a "meaningless" sentence ending and it is translatable in a variety of contexts (although the translations can end up varying based on the contexts involved). In the end it just makes him sound pretty childish/brash/forceful when he uses it.

Read this thread (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=55673) if you want to see anymore posts on the matter.

Gazow
12-05-2005, 05:17 PM
yeh thanks, that about sums it all up. anways how is dattebayo pronounce anyways

Kurairu
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
I think I read someone in another thread that Dattebayo is some kind of way to emphasize the word "desu" (in English, "is/am/are"). Since our grammar structure is different something else had to be thrown in there that had the same effect.
^ :D

That seems right.

Nihongaeri
12-05-2005, 05:26 PM
anways how is dattebayo pronounce anywaysWell, the best solution is to download a subbed episode (or RAW) and listen to Naruto say it himself... But yeah, "dat" is like the word "dot", "te" like in the word "ten", "ba" is like the "bo" in the word "bomb", and "yo" like in the word "yogurt". Still not perfect, but that's close enough. Although remember, the phrase is technically just "ttebayo" and not "dattebayo"... Whether there's a "da" or not is basically due to grammatical issues.

Jaga
12-05-2005, 07:08 PM
You all know Naruto's favorite words are "believe it" on CN. Check this out its hilarious:

http://saiyanisland.com/si.php?si=media/funny/narutobelieveit

gamecity
12-05-2005, 07:33 PM
I kind of like it when he says "Believe it". I think it's a great addition in the dub version that I didn't see in the sub version of the anime.

TheVileOne
12-07-2005, 05:48 PM
I don't understand why everyone throws a hissy fit about him saying two worlds like that.

albel
12-07-2005, 07:46 PM
have u heard it? (its annoying)

Altered
12-07-2005, 08:58 PM
have u heard it? (its annoying)

Naruto is meant to be annoying.

~Will

Kazuo
12-07-2005, 09:37 PM
Naruto is meant to be annoying.

~Will
Thank you! I've been saying this for god know's how long... all of my friend's complaing about him being annoying, his voice being crappy and annoying.

"It's supposed to be annoying"

He's not meant to be a character who could be the "cool main character" in a series. Besides, in Japan "Dattebayo" is probably just as annoying. But since 90% of people are are Otaku who believe Japan can do no wrong, "Dattebayo" is considered awesome.

hikaranko
12-08-2005, 12:32 PM
you guys say he's annoying like it's a bad thing. XD

he's just meant to be the underdog that's annoying, but turns out to be pretty awesome. i remember the first time i watched the show with my cousin (subbed), i turned to him and was like, "why does he end all of his sentences with 'ttebayo' and 'dattebayo'??" it was pretty annoying at first, but i've come to love Naruto all the more for it. :P

HisshouBuraiKen
12-08-2005, 01:20 PM
I took a poll on this a while ago and the general concensus was that people didn't want to see "Believe it" in fan translations for the manga/anime because they felt it was forced/contrived.

Ardor
12-08-2005, 03:31 PM
i acctually asked my japanese teacher about this. she being a native japanese person would know and she said that it roughly translates to "That's what I say". that isnt the only language to have a phrase like that. in english you might here someone say "staight up" but that doesnt acctually say anything about direction or the position of anything. its a nonsensical phrase that's used as slang. the egyptians had a similar phrase thats now pronounced amen. its a confirmative phrase showing agreement with a previous statement in that same way that naruto uses his phrase. only amen was a very formal phrase while naruto uses course language by useing slang to affirm and emphasize his own statements.

Weltallgaia
12-08-2005, 09:19 PM
You all know Naruto's favorite words are "believe it" on CN. Check this out its hilarious:

http://saiyanisland.com/si.php?si=media/funny/narutobelieveit

there is a japanese version of this where he says dattebayo 46 times in between each believe it that was shown

TheVileOne
12-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Naruto is meant to be annoying.

~Will

Annoying fits Naruto rather well. Especially toward other characters. Once again, another ILLEGITIMATE argument from the haters.

ninjabum
12-11-2005, 11:35 AM
toonami killed naruto, with the whole believe it thing like weltallgaia said. oh and im having trouble understanding what CHAKRA is, is it magic? energy, black magic, what is it!!!!

Riles481
12-11-2005, 05:17 PM
Nothing pisses me off more than hearing that dumbass voice actor say 'believe it' every few sentence Naruto speaks. What the american dubbers don't seem top fuckin understand is that Naruto's constant repeat of dattebayo is not meant to be taken freakin literally its his fuckin chracter trait, just like Kakashi is always late, Sasuke is gay, and sakura has her inner child. They even make fun of this chracter trait in the song gyu-ru-ru which was made for the first Naruto movie, although people who only watch dubbed wouldnt know this. (you can find the song in the music section on the main webpage)

and people ask me why i hate watching dubbed animes...

Gold Knight - I considered deleting this post, but decided not to because it is still this poster's opinion - an emotional one - but still an opinion. But Riles481, please try to be a little less crazy next time. :p

Masaki
12-11-2005, 05:56 PM
Edit: Riles481's quote removed by Gold Knight

And here people were worried that stuff would be taken out, but you're complaining that they tried to at least keep the trait in, which is supposed to be annoying. Also, don't blame voice actors for doing what they're told. Not to mention that the only difference is that the dubbed version is a bit higher pitched and speaks a language you understand.

The rest of your post seems irrelevant and you should be burned for it. :S Believe it, man.

(And look, I even went through the trouble of making a smiley. Those who know me know I almost never do smileys.)

Kromagnum
12-11-2005, 09:59 PM
Edit: Riles481's quote removed by Gold Knight

I'm having trouble understanding your post...

So... you'd prefer that in the dub, Naruto has no catchphrase, Inner-Sakura is deleted completely, and Kakashi is never late? If it's a character trait, I'm glad they brought it over. Traits are what MAKE characters. If it is indeed, a character trait, or as you called it, a 'chracter trait', and they didn't translate it, Naruto would be a completely different character in the dub. And I guarantee you'd be bitching along the lines of "zOMG I can't believe they ignored dattebayo!!1!~"

Weltallgaia
12-15-2005, 02:38 AM
toonami killed naruto, with the whole believe it thing like weltallgaia said. oh and im having trouble understanding what CHAKRA is, is it magic? energy, black magic, what is it!!!!
try not to misinterpret me and dont make assumptions about toonami killing anything when you blatantly have no clue about the simplest thing in the series.
i never said toonami killed it, if anything naruto is more of an annoying little kid in the japanese version.

TheVileOne
12-15-2005, 05:33 AM
Nothing pisses me off more than hearing that dumbass voice actor say 'believe it' every few sentence Naruto speaks. What the american dubbers don't seem top fuckin understand is that Naruto's constant repeat of dattebayo is not meant to be taken freakin literally its his fuckin chracter trait, just like Kakashi is always late, Sasuke is gay, and sakura has her inner child. They even make fun of this chracter trait in the song gyu-ru-ru which was made for the first Naruto movie, although people who only watch dubbed wouldnt know this. (you can find the song in the music section on the main webpage)

and people ask me why i hate watching dubbed animes...

What are they supposed to do then? All they did was translate DATTEBAYO which he says a lot in Japanese. Why are you getting so bent out of shape about it?

Can the haters be any more irrational and illegitimate than the post above?

Quit saying that stuff, dude. - Gold Knight

creativerealms
12-15-2005, 04:33 PM
People are use to Dattebayo, not a good argument but it's all I have. Naruto says it more then believe it yet I hear people complain about his over use of Believe it, which he has not said more then seven or eight times per episode. Your lucky if he says dattebayo that little.

Believe it is more annoying but Dattebayo is annoying to and in the end just as annoying because of how much more it is said.

TheVileOne
12-15-2005, 05:05 PM
creativerealms...that does not make one lick of sense what so ever.

Ardor
12-16-2005, 03:24 PM
It boils down to the fact that no matter how good a dub is (not saying that Naruto has a good dub) people will always find something stupid to complain about. Guess what, 'dattebayo' is every bit as annoying to Japanese people as 'believe it' is to us. It’s a course and unnecessary phrase that doesn't fit. So in other words they actually did a great job with keeping it in the exact same spirit as its Japanese counterpart.
Nothing pisses me off more than hearing that dumbass voice actor say 'believe it' every few sentence Naruto speaks. What the american dubbers don't seem top fuckin understand is that Naruto's constant repeat of dattebayo is not meant to be taken freakin literally its his fuckin chracter trait, just like Kakashi is always late, Sasuke is gay, and sakura has her inner child. They even make fun of this chracter trait in the song gyu-ru-ru which was made for the first Naruto movie, although people who only watch dubbed wouldnt know this. (you can find the song in the music section on the main webpage)

and people ask me why i hate watching dubbed animes...
And you know what pisses me off? When people think they are so high-and-mighty because they only watch anime in Japanese. Well guess what, even if you only watch the sub you're still going to be missing out, know why? Because things get lost in translation. It’s an unavoidable fact. It doesn't matter if you're watching text on a screen, which in reality isn't that much better if at all than what you get in an uncut DVD from a good dubbing studio, or you're watching it with paid voice actors who say those lines rather than you read it.

And even if you go as far as to learn Japanese so that you can watch the raw you'll still be missing out. And here's the kicker, it's because you're not a native Japanese speaker. You didn't grow up in their culture, you don't get the jokes and references in the way that a Japanese person does. and quite frankly if you do educate yourself to the level where you understand all of the cultural references and jokes in Naruto and master the Japanese language only so that you can say you enjoy a cartoon more than other people then you must be a lonely, lonely person. That’s when you know you need to get outside and get a life.

Now if you grew up in a military family or whatever and lived in Japan for your entire life, then I honestly apologize for assuming that you didn't. But I get the feeling that you can't say that you'll have to just move on with your life kid.

Blackvoice
12-16-2005, 07:14 PM
direct translation of dattebayo is "Believe dat" but they thought that was too gangster.

Gunslinger37
12-16-2005, 08:45 PM
they made the catch phrase like that so they can make t-shirts that have naruto and say believe it!!! gfg

RealaMoreno
12-16-2005, 09:49 PM
direct translation of dattebayo is "Believe dat" but they thought that was too gangster.



Lol, that's pretty funny.

And where did that lovely asian girl in your sig come from...to quote Dave Cha. "She had some nice tit-ehs..."

TheVileOne
12-17-2005, 05:43 AM
direct translation of dattebayo is "Believe dat" but they thought that was too gangster.

More like its too Martin Lawrence from Blue Streak.

nah-nah
12-17-2005, 09:14 AM
Alright, flaming stops here. It's not needed.

...Believe it.

XD

nah-nah
12-17-2005, 09:38 AM
no one is flaming? then what is this, praytell?

at least i leave my name when i neg rep somebody bitch

im surprised you didnt say believe it in your neg rep

Gold Knight
12-17-2005, 09:53 AM
Nah-Nah's right. Take a chill pill, guys, and stop attacking each other like mad dogs.

Jaga
12-17-2005, 11:05 AM
People are use to Dattebayo, not a good argument but it's all I have. Naruto says it more then believe it yet I hear people complain about his over use of Believe it, which he has not said more then seven or eight times per episode. Your lucky if he says dattebayo that little.

Believe it is more annoying but Dattebayo is annoying to and in the end just as annoying because of how much more it is said.

a lot of us probably don't know japanese, thats why we probably don't hear it as often in the japanese version. we know english pretty well, so we hear that.

i don't know if that made sense but thats what I think....

chakra
12-19-2005, 06:03 PM
arg this is the word that drove me to hate this dub

Pheonix_222
12-20-2005, 12:27 AM
i always thaught they were gunna make him say "don'cha know?" in the dub

but whatever
that whould have been annoying too

Evening_Stars
12-22-2005, 04:34 PM
When I hear him say "Believe it!" it makes me laugh. ^_^

Kyuriko
12-23-2005, 10:42 PM
He originally said Dattebayo in the Japanese version. I'm sure that to some of the Japanese fans that Dattebayo is just as annoying as Believe it. Personally, I kind of like the "Believe it."

DragonBlade7
12-23-2005, 11:01 PM
the "believe it" thing does get a little annoying
my friend's only seen a few of the english episodes and it already irritates her

TheVileOne
12-24-2005, 06:37 PM
That's because Naruto has a very annoying and "I WANT TO BE THE CENTER OF ATTENION! LOOK AT ME!" Personality. But there's more to him than that. He acts like that because he doesn't want people to see how sad or lonely he is or has been before.