How do you think the 3rd Party Support Will Be For the Revolution?

[9Tail-Hokage]

Nintendo's had a rather shaky past with 3rd Party support since the N64 days, and not much changed with the GameCube. Even though the GameCube was a step in the right direction for Nintendo, it still didn't have nearly as much support from 3rd Party developers as the Xbox and PS2 had. I mean, Nintendo stays afloat because of their pure dominance of the handheld market and most GameCube owners play for 1st party games anyway.

Now comes the Revolution; do you think this will change? Will 3rd Parties flock to this new system? Or will it be as dead in the 3rd Party market as it was for the N64 and GameCube when compared to the other guys?

[Vegitto-kun]

It will be booming of third party support, all new companies can produce for them since the dev kits are like super cheap, Nintendo also said that if companies have problems that they can ask nintendo and they would send a assistant to help them for free.

Also The new president Iwata rocks compared to the old fashioned old president

[The Sandwich Prince]

Sadly I'm thinking it'll be just as bad as before. A lot of companies out there lacked innovation with what they had to work with before and with something like what Nintendo is offering now I'm sure we'll have a lot of hit and miss video games that try to use the technology.

I haven't read any other NIntendo Rev. specs, but other than the controller I don't know what else they'll have that will be different from the other systems. Without that it's almost like they'd be better off choosing the other consoles in the long run.

Edit: But maybe I should go read some information before commenting further.

[Shogun]

It will be the same as the 64 and GC, or more like the GC, which had more support than the 64. However, it won't have as much as either the 360 or ps3

[SaiST]

I don't expect things to change much, for two reasons:
The controller - A brilliant concept, that I don't expect many develpers outside of Nintendo's own to really take advantage of.
The hardware - Just a slightly beefed up GCN, ain't it? On one hand, it would be just fine for what Nintendo wants to do, they're not concerned with raw processing power, and they won't even be taking a loss here(they never do. :P). But on the other, ports won't be too common because of the difference in hardware.
I still expect heavy support from Capcom, and a few others, but I don't see Nintendo's 3rd party support getting much better than it did for the GCN.

[Vegitto-kun]

It will be the same as the 64 and GC, or more like the GC, which had more support than the 64. However, it won't have as much as either the 360 or ps3
Actually the PS3 is losing alot of support, because once AGAIN, they made it way too complicated and expensive for smaller developers, and all the developers are excited by the revolution, a exclusive spiderman 3 just for the revolution is being made, its not a port.

[9Tail-Hokage]

Q: How many launch titles will there be for the Revolution?

RFA: That question's a bit premature. We'll be showing a lot of titles at this year's E3, and we think that's where consumers will get a flavor for the full range of titles and the full range of activity that we will have for our launch window.

Q: And what is the launch date?

RFA: We've said 2006. [NOTE: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has since said the game will arrive in the US by Thanksgiving.]

Q: What else will set the Revolution apart from the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3?

RFA: A number of things. First, our titles. We have the huge luxury of a stable of franchises that's unparalleled in this industry. Also, we're working on new franchises and our first-party lineup will be better than our competition. We're also getting strong third-party support.

Secondly, our virtual console concept, which lets you play your favorite games from the Nintendo 64, Super NES and NES systems, will also be a differentiator. Plus, Revolution will be backwardly compatible with GameCube games.

Q: How do you think the Revolution will sell?

RFA: We will sell more units than [the] Xbox 360 did here in the United States in our launch window. I mean, in December, we sold more GameCubes in the United States than Microsoft sold 360s, and Revolution will do better than that.

Q: Terrific. Finally, can you tell me how Nintendo will reverse the perception that the console market is Sony and Microsoft and then Nintendo?

RFA: The fact is this: On a worldwide basis in the home console area, we are the number two player. Here in the United States, if you look at today, we are the number three player, so I understand where the perception comes from that we are not doing as well in the home console market as we are in the handheld business, where we dominate worldwide.

Our focus for [the] Nintendo Revolution is to provide real, meaningful differentiators versus our competition, and we believe that is what will drive our success. First, focusing on a single-minded gaming device. Second, bringing real innovation to the controller in the way consumers play the game. Third, a value orientation that certainly is not present with our competitors. Fourth, leveraging the power of our library with the virtual consoles.

So that's how we believe our success formula will play out in home consoles, and our focus is on executing that four-point program.
I hope he's not BSing.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142598.html)(link to the complete interview, with DS and Rev controller talk).

[SaiST]

I remember similar things being said before the GCN's launch too.

I'm doubtful. But if it happens, great.

[pajamas]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/692/692479p3.html

pages three and four are all third party developers.

14 games are in production (from 3rd parties) for Revo, and many more are coming. (The ground up Spiderman isn't on there yet, but another Activision game is)

I think that's pretty strong considering it hasn't even been truly revealed.

Everyone loves the controller, I have read lots of interviews around IGN Revo and there hasn't been one developer saying, "oh no, we can't do this! This controller sucks, and only about as strong as Xbox? That's bullshit!"

Everyone's loved the controller and twice the power of GCN is plenty for developers to work with.

[Vegitto-kun]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/692/692479p3.html

pages three and four are all third party developers.

14 games are in production (from 3rd parties) for Revo, and many more are coming. (The ground up Spiderman isn't on there yet, but another Activision game is)

I think that's pretty strong considering it hasn't even been truly revealed.

Everyone loves the controller, I have read lots of interviews around IGN Revo and there hasn't been one developer saying, "oh no, we can't do this! This controller sucks, and only about as strong as Xbox? That's bullshit!"

Everyone's loved the controller and twice the power of GCN is plenty for developers to work with.
One of the main guys thats on the team that makes unreal tournament dissed nintendo but he never used a dev kit of it and after nintendo send the first dev kits, he took his words back XD

[CrazyMoronX]

I doubt it will return to any kind of SNES glory days or anything, but I think SquareEnix might make a few more games for them. I hope they get a lot, since the PS3 seems to be too expensive for my tastes.

[Spanish Hoffkage]

Nintendo lacks third parties. that's a fact since the days of N64. I don't see many companies thinking and re-thinking how to make a game with the new controller and takin g the advantadges it offers.

As always we have to put all our espectatives in the main house of Nintendo and his classic sagas that never dissapoints. Maybe that time the console has more support for third parties but i don't see a big change from what we got in the gamecube.

[Ssj3_Goku]

For the ppl who said it will be like gamecubes do not know anything. If you kept up with all the information/podcast/ weekly videos over at IGN you would be surprised..

the cheif and editor is REALLY happy because this time around there are acculy groud up games for revoultion and not just ports and more 3rd party support than before.. i am quite happy myself.

[n8dogg]

Will 3rd party developers truly take advantage of the new controller?

If the DS is any indication, not really.

I noticed that only Nintendo and a few other Japanese powerhouses (Like Capcom) have taken full creative advantage over the touch screen. The other developers just use the screen as an alternative to using a scrolling menu, which, in my opinion, isn't very creative. I'm hoping things will be different for the Revolution, as it seems a bit easier to find different things to do with a movement sensitive controller than a touch screen, but a part of me feels that the best games for the system will still be coming from 1st party support.

[Aman]

From what LSK said it seems they'll do good this time.

[Vegitto-kun]

Will 3rd party developers truly take advantage of the new controller?

If the DS is any indication, not really.

I noticed that only Nintendo and a few other Japanese powerhouses (Like Capcom) have taken full creative advantage over the touch screen. The other developers just use the screen as an alternative to using a scrolling menu, which, in my opinion, isn't very creative. I'm hoping things will be different for the Revolution, as it seems a bit easier to find different things to do with a movement sensitive controller than a touch screen, but a part of me feels that the best games for the system will still be coming from 1st party support.
They don't have to fully use the controller, its not because it exists that they HAVE to use it, then you can say the same about the eyetoy, why dont developers always use it?

[crazymtf]

Nintendo has done fine by itself so i don't see how third party could hurt it, it could even help it. I'm glad for Nintendo.

[The Sandwich Prince]

They don't have to fully use the controller, its not because it exists that they HAVE to use it, then you can say the same about the eyetoy, why dont developers always use it?
Because the Eye-Toy isn't a controller ready for release. It was just an extra, like a DDR pad. I admit that some of the aspects don't have to be used, but if you're going to release a game for the Revolution you're either doing it for lower production costs or the innovative controller. Otherwise you might as well throw it on the Xbox or PS3 for the extra graphics/specs if that's something the company would like.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Will 3rd party developers truly take advantage of the new controller?

If the DS is any indication, not really.

I noticed that only Nintendo and a few other Japanese powerhouses (Like Capcom) have taken full creative advantage over the touch screen. The other developers just use the screen as an alternative to using a scrolling menu, which, in my opinion, isn't very creative. I'm hoping things will be different for the Revolution, as it seems a bit easier to find different things to do with a movement sensitive controller than a touch screen, but a part of me feels that the best games for the system will still be coming from 1st party support.


n8dogg the DS is differeant they do not need to take advantage of the touch screen if they do not want to. I see alot of companys taking advantage of the other DS system abilities.

and about the best game from first party. well the best games from ps2 are mainly first / secondary party's. nintendo will release GREAt games but this time around thrid party's will be acculy developing games from the ground up using the revo's controller.

the new spider man game is an indication of this and many others.

[Vegitto-kun]

Nintendo has done fine by itself so i don't see how third party could hurt it, it could even help it. I'm glad for Nintendo.
Third party support can make or break any console

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ eh not really first and second party can do just great as well.. Remeber the good old 64 days? but still more 3rd party will keep you in the number 1 spot usually.

[crazymtf]

Believe it or not i agree with SS3 on this one. Third party could really hlep, somtimes you need them. We'll see whn the system comes out.

[pajamas]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/692/692479p3.html

READ THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

no one reads my posts >_<

14 games=in production from third party studios, actually 15 or 16 (spider man and Bob Ross aren't included there yet)

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ yea old news there leon :P

also that spider man game is built from the ground up using revo's controller.. this will be the first spider man that i will acculy be intrested in trying out.

[pajamas]

I know it is, but these people obviously haven't read it if they think 3rd party support will suck.

[Ssj3_Goku]

yea half the ppl who say that kinda stuff here hardly look up information or go to gaming websites :lmao

[n8dogg]

Neh?? You weren't interested in Spider-Man 2? First free roaming Spider-Man game = teh pwnage.

So what do you mean when you say "second party"? I do know that third party means an outside developer creates the game, and first party means the company who manufactures the console creates the game, but second?

Are talking about games like Jak and Daxter? As in, published by Sony, but developed by Naughty Dog...?

[Ssj3_Goku]

Neh?? You weren't interested in Spider-Man 2? First free roaming Spider-Man game = teh pwnage.

So what do you mean when you say "second party"? I do know that third party means an outside developer creates the game, and first party means the company who manufactures the console creates the game, but second?

Are talking about games like Jak and Daxter? As in, published by Sony, but developed by Naughty Dog...?


First Party Nintendo
Second Party ppl are company's who have contracts with those ppl who can only make games for that system. Example RARE ( back in the nintendo days)

Third Party = outside developer.


And yes i was not excited for spider man 2. the revo game will acculy be the most intresting thing because you can fully utialize the controller and that is intreging.

[CrazyMoronX]

Has there been any mention of any RPG development? I mean, that's really all I care about in a console, to be perfectly honest.

If it doesn't have RPGs, I do not want it. Which is why I never bought an Xbox, and which is why I only own 3 Gamecube games, but not an actual GC.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Has there been any mention of any RPG development? I mean, that's really all I care about in a console, to be perfectly honest.

If it doesn't have RPGs, I do not want it. Which is why I never bought an Xbox, and which is why I only own 3 Gamecube games, but not an actual GC.


yes FF CC that i know of i heard some stuff going around that they are going to try new action type RPG's for the system. Also zelda ( action/adventure/rpg) will use the revo's controller.

though right now i know more DS rpgs . RTS/RPG lost magic coming soon i cannot wait :) Xenosaga 1 +2 sooon!! ( 31/40 from famistu) and so much more :)


but in all honestly spread your gaming around a little crazy just playing RPG's all the time SUCKS ! i am serious you are missing out on a alot.

[n8dogg]

So how will Spider-Man use the controller? Do we know?

[Ssj3_Goku]

So how will Spider-Man use the controller? Do we know?


ign.com had an interview or something with them saying that they will fully utalize the revo controller with the new spider man. movement , web slinging etc. and to me that sounds pretty awesome i can pretend to be SPIDER MAN!:nuts


:laugh

[Nan Desu Ka]

damn spiderman on the revo will be sick! I cant wait for that one.

[Vegitto-kun]

Have you guys heard about ''floor vision''? Basicly its something developed by nintendo where a image is projected on the floor but it reacts to where you stand like say if you walk over a old bridge it reacts on where you are standing, would be nice if they used that somehow like say in a way like the eyetoy. There is a video out somewhere from E3

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ its on youtube. vegitto

[CrazyMoronX]

Meh, I play other non-RPGs from time to time. I get tired of them quickly. I beat Half-Life two in just a few days, it was disappointing, and the multi-player was mad-gay.

I played God of War, it was okay, nothing super great like everyone tried to make it out to be though.

I've played a few of the newer fighting games, they are usually fun, but burn out very quickly with nobody to play with.

RPGs is just where it's at, let's face it.

[n8dogg]

Meh, I play other non-RPGs from time to time. I get tired of them quickly. I beat Half-Life two in just a few days, it was disappointing, and the multi-player was mad-gay.

I played God of War, it was okay, nothing super great like everyone tried to make it out to be though.

I've played a few of the newer fighting games, they are usually fun, but burn out very quickly with nobody to play with.

RPGs is just where it's at, let's face it.

Man, I'm totally opposite. Usually I have to force myself to finish RPGs so I get my full money's worth.

Have you guys heard about ''floor vision''? Basicly its something developed by nintendo where a image is projected on the floor but it reacts to where you stand like say if you walk over a old bridge it reacts on where you are standing, would be nice if they used that somehow like say in a way like the eyetoy. There is a video out somewhere from E3

I saw that video, and I didn't realize they were trying to adapt that for home use. If they are, it seems as though the projecter would be crazy expensive. Not to mention difficult to use.

[Vegitto-kun]

Meh, I play other non-RPGs from time to time. I get tired of them quickly. I beat Half-Life two in just a few days, it was disappointing, and the multi-player was mad-gay.

I played God of War, it was okay, nothing super great like everyone tried to make it out to be though.

I've played a few of the newer fighting games, they are usually fun, but burn out very quickly with nobody to play with.

RPGs is just where it's at, let's face it.
I hate god of war XD

And If i remember the FF on revo might be online too and I am pretty sure that there will be alot more.

HL2 is god in FPS though

[Ssj3_Goku]

Meh, I play other non-RPGs from time to time. I get tired of them quickly. I beat Half-Life two in just a few days, it was disappointing, and the multi-player was mad-gay.

I played God of War, it was okay, nothing super great like everyone tried to make it out to be though.

I've played a few of the newer fighting games, they are usually fun, but burn out very quickly with nobody to play with.

RPGs is just where it's at, let's face it.


yea RPGS the same type of gameplay mechanic's the past 20 years :/ they are not like what they used to be now everyone worries about production values and graphics.

DS rpgs / revo RPGS hopefully will make me turn a new light on them. a have a few made DS rpgs in mind and Lost magic is one of them.


also you have to play shaddow of colussis, RE4, and hell try other types of games like phonex write ace attorey..


i think the american gaming community ( most ot them) are afaird to try something new other than the normal type of genres we are seeing.

again i am not directing that last comment at you Crazy , i was speaking in general terms.


and vegito yes FF CC for revo will be using revoultions online system. was confirmed last E3.

[LOLZILLA]

also you have to play shaddow of colussis, RE4, and hell try other types of games like phonex write ace attorey..
if i remember correctly he tried RE4 and hated it because of his inability to adapt to a controller as simple as the gamecube's.

[Vegitto-kun]

if i remember correctly he tried RE4 and hated it because of his inability to adapt to a controller as simple as the gamecube's.
Oh my word, I was able to controll RE4 like immediatly, the controlls are easy as hell

[CrazyMoronX]

yea RPGS the same type of gameplay mechanic's the past 20 years :/ they are not like what they used to be now everyone worries about production values and graphics.

DS rpgs / revo RPGS hopefully will make me turn a new light on them. a have a few made DS rpgs in mind and Lost magic is one of them.


also you have to play shaddow of colussis, RE4, and hell try other types of games like phonex write ace attorey..


i think the american gaming community ( most ot them) are afaird to try something new other than the normal type of genres we are seeing.

again i am not directing that last comment at you Crazy , i was speaking in general terms.


and vegito yes FF CC for revo will be using revoultions online system. was confirmed last E3.

Well I wouldn't say that about RPGs. But you could say the exact same thing for FPS games, except they have less new things than RPGs do.

At least with RPGs, you get new story, new characters, new everything really. A lot of the times the gameplay is the same, but often it is new and innovative. It's not always the same shit over and over again.

I've never played 2 RPGs that really felt the same, all of the FPS usually feel about the same to me. Gun, point, shoot. RPGs are mostly select, press granted.. but you get to customize your skills, etc.. more dimensions to a RPG, I think.

Anyway... this isn't the thread for this conversation. I'll digress.

[crazymtf]

WAIT...SS3 you say another FF:CC is coming out on REVO? WILL IT BE BETTER THEN THE GAMECUBE ONE? Not in the sense of how you play but with gayness of having to have a gameboy to play with friends, is that out? Because if it is thank god, i may really try this one.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Well I wouldn't say that about RPGs. But you could say the exact same thing for FPS games, except they have less new things than RPGs do.

At least with RPGs, you get new story, new characters, new everything really. A lot of the times the gameplay is the same, but often it is new and innovative. It's not always the same shit over and over again.

I've never played 2 RPGs that really felt the same, all of the FPS usually feel about the same to me. Gun, point, shoot. RPGs are mostly select, press granted.. but you get to customize your skills, etc.. more dimensions to a RPG, I think.

Anyway... this isn't the thread for this conversation. I'll digress.



every RPG i played has the basic same elements to it , nothing new what so ever. also i can say the same thing about FPS's new story, more production values ( like RPGS) , newer characters, etc.

you should download the ign weekly 5 over at www.ign.com and watch it half way through they talk abotu the state of RPG's and belive me they are 100% correct.


and yes crazy they are making it for revo and it will use online play and it will utalize the revo controller.

[CrazyMoronX]

WAIT...SS3 you say another FF:CC is coming out on REVO? WILL IT BE BETTER THEN THE GAMECUBE ONE? Not in the sense of how you play but with gayness of having to have a gameboy to play with friends, is that out? Because if it is thank god, i may really try this one.

I rented CC... figured I could play it two player... and I didn't have a GBA link. Man, was I pissed! :mad

Anyway, you could say that for every fucking game genre. FPS, Sports, Action, Platform. They all have the same "elements" with new things, and better graphics.

Name one game genre that doesn't follow that trend, that isn't some weird non-game shit like electrogaynkten or nintendogs...

[BladeofTheChad]

Revo will be as innovative as DS, meaning not much different...please, dont give me any crap...DS isnt that much different from the regular way of playing games...

Also, at the beginning 3rd party support will be OK, and by the end of the revos life cycle, it'll be like GameCube...

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ :lmao like gamecube :lmao

thats why its future is looking brighter than gamecubes did before launch with all the ppl on board and making new titles for the system.


yea you failed.

[Kduff]

Personally I'm worried about thrid party support, because the system has the awesome new controller that will be foreign to most developers, and therefore many will be wary about investing in something they don't fully understand. And the graphics will supposedly not even be on par with the first gen Xbox, so that may push a lot of *COUGH*graphicwhores away from buying the system, therefore reducing sales and reducing developer interest. It could easily go either way, it's such a cool and innovative product, so many high-profile and low-profile developers will be interested, but if they don't think they'll make a profit, only the high-profiles will risk it. Look at the DS and PSP: the DS was considered goofy and stupid by many, yet even though it has less advanced graphics than the PSP, it has more higher reviewed games than the PSP, and the DS has sold more games as well.

Only time will tell, but my fingers are crossed, because this is the console that will most likely make or break the company in the hardware market.

[crazymtf]

^Well it also has to due with price. If DS was 250 aswell i wouldn't even think about buying it. Revo is going to be what? 200? 250? Cheap, it's like half of my paycheck. That's why most people will buy it, not because it's great, same for gamecube *Well out of 30 people i know, everyone hated gamecube, but who could blame them eh?" But like i always say we'll see when it comes out.

CC with four players, now that you can really play with four players = awsome.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Kduff just keep up with the thrid party information and all the revo info over at www.ign.com and you will not be worred :)

[BladeofTheChad]

What are you talking about? Nintendo said the Gamecube at launch would have a lot of 3rd party support, but guess what they dont...quick making statements you think are ture, mine is an opinion and i state it like an opinion, you always try to state your shit as fact...

you say 35 developers on board out of the 100s available is amazing 3rd party support?

If you want, we can use the DS as my way of showing the great 3rd party support the DS has(which is practically Zero)

At the beginning, Nintendo said there would be just as many 3rd party games as there would be 1st party, and at lanch that looked to be the case(although with really shitty 3rd party games) now about a year later, the only people to still be on board the DS is 1st party Nintendo, and Capcom with really old ports of games ive aleady played(looking at you RE) and the only reason to get the DS is for first party games, it will be the same for Revo, and ill stake my life on it...

Even if it does have 3rd party support, none of the games will be as good as 3rd part Microsoft and Sony titles...just like GCN...

[Vegitto-kun]

What are you talking about? Nintendo said the Gamecube at launch would have a lot of 3rd party support, but guess what they dont...quick making statements you think are ture, mine is an opinion and i state it like an opinion, you always try to state your shit as fact...

you say 35 developers on board out of the 100s available is amazing 3rd party support?

If you want, we can use the DS as my way of showing the great 3rd party support the DS has(which is practically Zero)

At the beginning, Nintendo said there would be just as many 3rd party games as there would be 1st party, and at lanch that looked to be the case(although with really shitty 3rd party games) now about a year later, the only people to still be on board the DS is 1st party Nintendo, and Capcom with really old ports of games ive aleady played(looking at you RE) and the only reason to get the DS is for first party games, it will be the same for Revo, and ill stake my life on it...

Even if it does have 3rd party support, none of the games will be as good as 3rd part Microsoft and Sony titles...just like GCN...
Wha, the DS has no third-party support, from where did you get that crazy idea? Its the fricking quickest selling consoel yet, ofcourse it has damn third party

[Heavy Arms]

The controller - A brilliant concept, that I don't expect many develpers outside of Nintendo's own to really take advantage of.
The hardware - Just a slightly beefed up GCN, ain't it? On one hand, it would be just fine for what Nintendo wants to do, they're not concerned with raw processing power, and they won't even be taking a loss here(they never do. :P). But on the other, ports won't be too common because of the difference in hardware.


Someone finally sees what the Revo is all about

I don't really see any 3rd party supporters making a game with the
Revo controller in mind (it would be very hard to play a shooter with it)

My guess is Nintendo will sell it's usual Mario, Metroid, Zelda, SSB, and
old Nintendo game downloads for the first 6 months
and then they'll start releasing all platformer games
I doubt there will be any NEW type of game for Revo
that will be very good but I do see more spin off games
coming out (something to do with Luigi, Wario, etc.)
I just hope they don't make it kiddy and stupid again
like Luigi with a vaccum or Mario with a water jet pack shooter thing

[BladeofTheChad]

what? please more first party then third party...and i mean GOOD third party support...nobody wants shitty third party games(talking about things like Super Monkey Ball, Top Spin 2, Ice Age, and almost everything else that was released in March and February that wasnt a first party title)

On the Other Hand though...Sony PSP third party support has seen much better games either ported, or made from the ground up for their system.

Yes First Party I will give you(cept for Daxter and Syphon Filter) but other than those two, Sony isnt too good at first party games...on the other hand, Nintendo sucks ass at getting good third party games(that are exclusive) I mean they did have Viewtiful Joe for a while, but then that came to PS2, and so has RE4 and it is debateable on which version is the better version...

[Vegitto-kun]

[QUOTE=Sai]
The controller - A brilliant concept, that I don't expect many develpers outside of Nintendo's own to really take advantage of.
The hardware - Just a slightly beefed up GCN, ain't it? On one hand, it would be just fine for what Nintendo wants to do, they're not concerned with raw processing power, and they won't even be taking a loss here(they never do. :P). But on the other, ports won't be too common because of the difference in hardware.
QUOTE]

Someone finally sees what the Revo is all about
I don't think Nintendo really needs any 3rd party supporters since
they have the Download games from other systems thing

I don't really see any 3rd party supporters making a game with the
Revo controller in mind (it would be very hard to play a shooter with it)

My guess is Nintendo will sell it's usual Mario, Metroid, Zelda, SSB, and
old Nintendo game downloads for the first 6 months
and then they'll start releasing all platformer games
I doubt there will be any NEW type of game for Revo
that will be very good but I do see more spin off games
coming out (something to do with Luigi, Wario, etc.)
Um the revolution is considered the perfect console for shooters and there are alot of new games coming out on the revolution that are FPS,brothers in arms,killing zone and so on

[Ssj3_Goku]

blade nintendo never said about the thrid party stuff on the gamecube at launch. you can find those articles at ign.com

also the amount of games in development that are not ports but acculy games built up for revoultion alone by thrid parties is something they never did with game cube.

and for the rest of your post

:lmao

and how wever said about the revo controller behind hard to use for a fPS.. thats why they are saying it will be the controller that will solve the FPS problems that has been with consoles for a long time.

also look at MPH best control on a FPS on a console/ handheld yet.


also for the other ppl who do not know much about the specs download ign's weekly video 5 and watch it you might learn something.


also about the PSP :lmao

[BladeofTheChad]

god you are a dumb ass...and i dont even believe in god...

[Vegitto-kun]

god you are a dumb ass...and i dont even believe in god...
WTF? God? when did we say anything about god.

[BladeofTheChad]

nothing, its a joke that is obviously too far above your head...and Nintendo did say they were going to have a lot of Third party support for GCN before launch, because of what happened to the N64 and its third party support and what do you mean 3rd parties didnt build things for the ground up on GCN? RE4 and Veiwtiful Jow come to mind...but now they arent exclusive...

[Vegitto-kun]

nothing, its a joke that is obviously too far above your head...and Nintendo did say they were going to have a lot of Third party support for GCN before launch, because of what happened to the N64 and its third party support and what do you mean 3rd parties didnt build things for the ground up on GCN? RE4 and Veiwtiful Jow come to mind...but now they arent exclusive...
Games like RE4 are third party, exclusive or not. Third party are games from outside companies not if they are exclusive or not.

[Heavy Arms]

[QUOTE=Absolute Defense]
Um the revolution is considered the perfect console for shooters and there are alot of new games coming out on the revolution that are FPS,brothers in arms,killing zone and so on

????????????????
With that controller I HIGHLY doubt there are going to be very much shooters
besides Metroid

I would like to see anyone play Halo on the Revo
The only thing they could do to make it good for shooters
is remake the Gun (for Duckhunt)
but then again it wouldn't be that good

Best shooters are for Xbox cuz of the Trigger Buttons
PS2 might have that problem covered with the new controller
and Killzone 2
but the Revo is out of the shooting games

[Vegitto-kun]

[QUOTE=Vegitto-kun]

????????????????
With that controller I HIGHLY doubt there are going to be very much shooters
besides Metroid

I would like to see anyone play Halo on the Revo
The only thing they could do to make it good for shooters
is remake the Gun (for Duckhunt)
but then again it wouldn't be that good

Best shooters are for Xbox cuz of the Trigger Buttons
PS2 might have that problem covered with the new controller
and Killzone 2
but the Revo is out of the shooting games
Haha, nintendo themself said that the revolution was made to be used for FPS, the developers think the same, and there are a shitload of FPS being developed. Some examples

-Killing zone
-Another unknown FPS by the company that makes killing zone
-Brothers in arms 3
-Some by ubisoft

And so on

[Heavy Arms]

Nintendo themselves said they were the best for fps
I said that I have the biggest c**k in the world

Too bad Nintendos remote control controller sux for shooters
And even if it was good for shooting it wouldn't have the online
capabilities that 360 and PS3 will have

[BladeofTheChad]

4 isnt a shitload...but i dont care, all i know is by the end of the next generation, the rev will be like the GCN...one first party release every 5 months...

[Vegitto-kun]

4 isnt a shitload...but i dont care, all i know is by the end of the next generation, the rev will be like the GCN...one first party release every 5 months...
I fucking said a couple of them for fuck sake, half of the games arent even announced. There will be alot of games for the revolution on E3

And fucking developers said that the revolution is perfect for FPS, better then the retarted sticks

[BladeofTheChad]

Haha, nintendo themself said that the revolution was made to be used for FPS, the developers think the same, and there are a shitload of FPS being developed. Some examples

-Killing zone
-Another unknown FPS by the company that makes killing zone
-Brothers in arms 3
-Some by ubisoft

And so on

that looks nothing like A COUPLE!

[Vegitto-kun]

that looks nothing like A COUPLE!
I am not even going to bother discussing this with you....There are alot of FPS's in development and I showed a small number of them, Just you wait untill SS3 gets here and pwns us all with his smartness

[BladeofTheChad]

I am not even going to bother discussing this with you....There are alot of FPS's in development and I showed a small number of them, Just you wait untill SS3 gets here and pwns us all with his smartness

he may pwn you, but there will not be pwnage here...

[Ssj3_Goku]

????????????????
With that controller I HIGHLY doubt there are going to be very much shooters
besides Metroid

I would like to see anyone play Halo on the Revo
The only thing they could do to make it good for shooters
is remake the Gun (for Duckhunt)
but then again it wouldn't be that good

Best shooters are for Xbox cuz of the Trigger Buttons
PS2 might have that problem covered with the new controller
and Killzone 2
but the Revo is out of the shooting games


ign.com has confonfirmed there are other FPS 's in the making for revo other than Metriod.

Revo's controller >>>>>> Duel Analog for FPSs


so it goes
Mouse >Revo's controller>>Touchscreen>>>>>>>>Dual Analog ( in terms of FPS games)


and blade it has been stated that nintendo has more developd games than it did with gamecube from thrid party's this time around and more on board..


so you can leave now.

[Heavy Arms]

I am not even going to bother discussing this with you....There are alot of FPS's in development and I showed a small number of them, Just you wait untill SS3 gets here and pwns us all with his smartness

LOL what's to discuss?!?!?!?

Retarded sticks???
Those same sticks that you've been using for around 8 years???

You'de rather point a remote control to the tv and tap the bottom
of it to kill something and then turn it back around so you can use
the d-pad and push the a or b button to switch weapons

it really sounds like it would be a fast paced shooter

[Ssj3_Goku]

LOL what's to discuss?!?!?!?

Retarded sticks???
Those same sticks that you've been using for around 8 years???

You'de rather point a remote control to the tv and tap the bottom
of it to kill something and then turn it back around so you can use
the d-pad and push the a or b button to switch weapons

it really sounds like it would be a fast paced shooter


ther persicion in the revoultion controller is better than dual analogs... Touch screen's are better than dual analogs, the mouse is a better than dual analogs.


in FPS games etc.


in platform i can see the revoultion controller being really good..


i cannot wait to see the footage of them playing the new spider man game for revoultion with that controller. will be alot more fun than some suped up graphics one thats for sure.


nothing, its a joke that is obviously too far above your head...and Nintendo did say they were going to have a lot of Third party support for GCN before launch, because of what happened to the N64 and its third party support and what do you mean 3rd parties didnt build things for the ground up on GCN? RE4 and Veiwtiful Jow come to mind...but now they arent exclusive...


watch the new ign weekly and mat discuss's about the thrid party support for revoultion.

and yes there where games just getting ported to the system and basically nintendo drivin console.

the editor's where afaird of this happening again but with the information they are getting and the games in development from non first / second party developers they where simply amazed and shocked. they said there is clearly a big differance between the revoultions thrid party support to gamecubes back at launch.

[CrazyMoronX]

My take on FPS:

The should stay on PC. You know what's better than a pointing stick, or an XBOX controller? Keyboard and mouse.

Anyway, why are you getting so worked up over FPS games?

Though, I do think that the tiny little controller would be awkward for a FPS. Unless it has a gun shell, even then it would have to be very precise, and have some perfect reaction time to be any good.

[Ssj3_Goku]

My take on FPS:

The should stay on PC. You know what's better than a pointing stick, or an XBOX controller? Keyboard and mouse.

Anyway, why are you getting so worked up over FPS games?

Though, I do think that the tiny little controller would be awkward for a FPS. Unless it has a gun shell, even then it would have to be very precise, and have some perfect reaction time to be any good.


see i do not see it being any more less precise than a mouse on a keyboard.


also on a keyboard you normally use the WASD keys to move ( up down, left or right) correct? well i can see that movement being manulipulated easyly by the analog of the D pad.

also there are 2 Z buttons behind the analog numb chuck witch can provide fliping through differant types of weapons etc..

on PC's normally you can have them keymapped or fliping back and forth between 2 buttons.


Consoles have been lacking EXTREAMLY in the control issue with FPS's and revoultions controller will solve that.

hell right now the Ds touch screen solved that with Metriod PRime hunters.


but other than FPS games i can see RTS games, Platformer games, Action / adeventure games working really well with this system.. lets just hope they use it well.

[Vegitto-kun]

LOL what's to discuss?!?!?!?

Retarded sticks???
Those same sticks that you've been using for around 8 years???

You'de rather point a remote control to the tv and tap the bottom
of it to kill something and then turn it back around so you can use
the d-pad and push the a or b button to switch weapons

it really sounds like it would be a fast paced shooter
Turn it back around? Unless you have baby sized hands you would be able to reach all the buttons, and the revolution controller has a analog stick attacked with 2 Z buttons remember.

Basicly

Move around with the analog stick
Aim with the controller
Duck and jump = Z buttons
Big A button = reload
B button = change weapon
Trigger button = fire

[crazymtf]

Revolution is surly a great idea. I could imagine them in games like SSB and other fighters or Zelda type games but to go as far as saying it IS the best thing on the market for shooting when two things. ONE that is your opinion, for one i find that XBOX 360 controller better for my Halo then the Mouse for my computer *Though i love the computer it just doesn't feel as confertable* And the second reason why you can't even say it's the best is because you haven't even tried it. Once again this is your opinion and your stating it as a fact when it's not...please stop it already...

[BladeofTheChad]

i dont think the DS touch screen is that great with FPSs to be honest... you have one hand off the console making it hard to hold the whole thing together, and then you get to double tap and shit to jump and go to scanning and shit...i believe that isnt intuitive...


so you can leave now.

to that i say http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/BladeofImmortal/middle_finger.jpg

[CrazyMoronX]

see i do not see it being any more less precise than a mouse on a keyboard.


also on a keyboard you normally use the WASD keys to move ( up down, left or right) correct? well i can see that movement being manulipulated easyly by the analog of the D pad.

also there are 2 Z buttons behind the analog numb chuck witch can provide fliping through differant types of weapons etc..

on PC's normally you can have them keymapped or fliping back and forth between 2 buttons.


Consoles have been lacking EXTREAMLY in the control issue with FPS's and revoultions controller will solve that.

hell right now the Ds touch screen solved that with Metriod PRime hunters.


but other than FPS games i can see RTS games, Platformer games, Action / adeventure games working really well with this system.. lets just hope they use it well.

Precision is less of a factor here, I think the biggest factor for an FPS would be the reaction speed. I mean, if you're pointing at a wall, and then a monster pops out, you better hope you can aim on that monster pretty damn fast.

What has been said about that? Can you move it around quickly, and have it follow around easily? If not, FPS will have to be slow paced.

[Ssj3_Goku]

well it reacts to your movements i am not sure how fast it is.. surely E3 will tell us but i am assuming its pretty quick i do not see why not.


Also blade many reveiws of the MPH game has said its the best controlling FPS out there on the market right now. for consoles / handhelds..

meaning trying to mimic the PC's set up.

[crazymtf]

^SS3 can you state how you know this controller will work great with FPS, I mean i want some real facts. Also not your shitty opinion on it because you are just as much a fanboy to Nintendo as i am to Sony so i really like to know where people who played the system say "This is the best controller for FPS" Please tell me who has played it? WHO? Thank you for your time.

[Ssj3_Goku]

www.ign.com nintendo and thrid parties said it works pretty good with FPS :oh

true there have been no games shown ( only behind closed doors, ign exec's got to see them :cry)

but e3 you will learn crazy , you will learn :nod

[BladeofTheChad]

yup Crazy, you will learn that Revo isnt that great... :nod

[Ssj3_Goku]

and blade will learn that he will be proved wrong :nod

either way this is how it is

new gen- revoultion
next gen - PS3/ Xbox360

[BladeofTheChad]

yup, and we all know how will this New Gen will turn out...remember the Dinosaurs? Havent seen one alive lately...

[crazymtf]

New gen? When it finally gets internet and DVD player and you consider that new gen? LMAo XD

[Ssj3_Goku]

new gen in terms of how the game is played .... yes :nod

[Vegitto-kun]

^SS3 can you state how you know this controller will work great with FPS, I mean i want some real facts. Also not your shitty opinion on it because you are just as much a fanboy to Nintendo as i am to Sony so i really like to know where people who played the system say "This is the best controller for FPS" Please tell me who has played it? WHO? Thank you for your time.
Um the developers and new people that tried it, love it. Nintendo had a metroid prime 2 demo where you have to use the revo controller and everybody said that it rocked. I actually know somebody that was at the behind doors presentation because he works for a bunch of game magazines, he himself said that the revolution controller owns for FPS.

So blade stfu, the developers and gamesite/magazines says it rocks for fps they know it better then you and me

[Kduff]

It seems to me that MOST of the naysayers on this discussion are ill-informed Microsoft and Sony fanboys, not people that have actually looked at the console extensively.
The controller was said to of worked beautifully on the Metroid Prime 2 revolution demo at the Tokyo Game Show last August, and it's a first person shooter, is it not? With the "Nunchaku" attachment guiding which way you walk, and the remote control acting as your gun, it will be perfect for FPS games, along with any other game that requires Dual-analog like support. I mean, the controller will basically be like a real light gun, except for the fact that it has more than just a trigger button. And as Ssj3_Goku said, every reviewer that has played with the remote (including my favorite EGM, along with Nintendo, have basically said that the ACCURACY at which the remote controls your character is better than a little analog remote. It's seems like common sense to me, as you can move the remote up and down and around by feet, and the analog you can only move half an inch in any direction. It's a simple problem of data, if I can put in more data, as with the Revo. controller, I'm going to get better feedback (as in more responsive controls).

STOP BEING FANBOYS!!!!!! All systems have their perks, and just because you can't afford them all, doesn't mean you have to stake your life on the one that your mommy bought you for Christmas, okay?

[Kduff]

yup Crazy, you will learn that Revo isnt that great... :nod

Okay, let me get this out of my system now...

FANBOY FANBOY FANBOY FANBOY!!!!!!!

YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW GOOD OR BAD IT WILL BE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED IT. AT LEAST BASE YOUR ARGUMENTS ON FACT, AND I MAY TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

I think it will be a fine console because how it is controlled MAY add a lot of originality to the games and MAY bring some new gametypes or genres to the market. Anyone who has played games for as long as I have (15 years-I started at 4 with 2600 and NES) is starting to get a little tired of the same thing over and over. Also, it will cost way less than the others, will have Nintendo first party games, and will have ATTACHMENTS FOR THE CONTROLLER. That means that the controller isn't simply a remote, it could be a normal dual-analog if they made the attachment for it, which many game journalists think they will, since analog is better for RPG's and such.

[Donkey Show]

I personally believe it'll have a better start than the DS, considering how it brought a different set of tools to gameplay. Again, it's all about the games. But Bob Ross is going to go triple platinum once it comes out. XD

[Heavy Arms]

Is Nintendo going to stick with those retarded mini disc or are they going
to full size disc that everybody loves and adores
(mini disc are cool for psp cuz it's portable)
(I know they hold more space big whoop)

I sent my GC into West Coast Customs
and when I got it back X was like
"Look at your brand new Revo" and I
was all like "cool" and then he gave me
back the GC with lights and a remote control

[Ssj3_Goku]

Is Nintendo going to stick with those retarded mini disc or are they going
to full size disc that everybody loves and adores
(mini disc are cool for psp cuz it's portable)
(I know they hold more space big whoop)

I sent my GC into West Coast Customs
and when I got it back X was like
"Look at your brand new Revo" and I
was all like "cool" and then he gave me
back the GC with lights and a remote control

Nintendo will have 12 CM optical Disc's single layer 4.7 gig duel layer 9.8 gig roughly. basically the DVD9 format.

[crazymtf]

^Oh that's good news, yeah those small disc were kinda annoying, they are the same size as our psp disc, lol :P

[Ssj3_Goku]

yea the mini dvd was not to great 2 gig was the highest for those if it was more then it would have been a cool idea i did not mind the small disc's.

[pajamas]

Nintendo will have 12 CM optical Disc's single layer 4.7 gig duel layer 9.8 gig roughly. basically the DVD9 format.I thought I read somewhere that dual layer won't be supported (not that it will matter much because there won't be any HD to take up tons of space).

[Vegitto-kun]

I thought I read somewhere that dual layer won't be supported (not that it will matter much because there won't be any HD to take up tons of space).
I read a interview somewhere where apparently nintendo and some other company are making new types of dvd's which would be around 16 gig

[n8dogg]

Any sources, the both of you?

[Ssj3_Goku]

it wont be 16 gig ( well i never heard of such a thing ) ... the specs about the drive and DVD stuff can be found at ign.com or at google.com

[Vegitto-kun]

it wont be 16 gig ( well i never heard of such a thing ) ... the specs about the drive and DVD stuff can be found at ign.com or at google.com
The Revolution will initially use a proprietary disc standard developed between Nintendo and Panasonic. It uses 12 gig capacity discs. However, with a hardware attachment planned, it is quite possible more DVD standards will be supported in the future.

It was on revolution-europe but I cant find the actual article at the moment
http://www.revo-europe.com/index.php

They should use this though

http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/comments.php?catid=5&id=3388

[Ssj3_Goku]

ummm i do not know 16 gig on a regular DVD is not possible i have not seen such a thing because HDVD single layer is 15 gig. :/

[slimscane]

I still don't know, and quite frankly, with something so radically different like the Rev, I am not going to trust it untill I play it. One of the things that worries me is, when I am playing a console game, especially now with the freedom of wireless controllers, I don't sit perfectly still, infact, at times I may even stand up. Now what is going to happen if I am getting into a serious firefight online with the revolution (assume the FPS controll scheme actually works well), and I get so pumped up that I jump out of my seat? More than likely, I will die, and it will be lame, and I will be angry. Even though it is wireless and supports a full 3d range of motion, it appears as though the revolution controller is going to be even more restrictive than the virtual boy. Well, I may be taking that a little too far, but you see what I mean right?

[Vegitto-kun]

I still don't know, and quite frankly, with something so radically different like the Rev, I am not going to trust it untill I play it. One of the things that worries me is, when I am playing a console game, especially now with the freedom of wireless controllers, I don't sit perfectly still, infact, at times I may even stand up. Now what is going to happen if I am getting into a serious firefight online with the revolution (assume the FPS controll scheme actually works well), and I get so pumped up that I jump out of my seat? More than likely, I will die, and it will be lame, and I will be angry. Even though it is wireless and supports a full 3d range of motion, it appears as though the revolution controller is going to be even more restrictive than the virtual boy. Well, I may be taking that a little too far, but you see what I mean right?
Why would it be restrictive, the controller would just notice the fact that your standing up and that you are higher then normal.


And it is a new kind of DVD which can be read on normal dvd players but is 12 gig

read the second article there they are talking about how its easy to put 50 gig on a normal dvd

[Ssj3_Goku]

there will be a cradle to play it "traditionally" ( revo games in general)




that link sent me to no article. also 50 gig on a normal DVD is impossible. even 12 gig compression techniques can only achieve up to 9.8 gig on a normal DVD.

[slimscane]

If, in an FPS, you move the controll up to look up, standing up (with your controller) would make you look up. Since moving the controller is going to be used to effect things of screen, you can't just move it around freely. Resituating yourself, standing up, leaning, all of them (assuming you do it with the controll) will effect what your character is doing on screen. If moving the controller always effects the game, then it is extremely restrictive.

[Ssj3_Goku]

If, in an FPS, you move the controll up to look up, standing up (with your controller) would make you look up. Since moving the controller is going to be used to effect things of screen, you can't just move it around freely. Resituating yourself, standing up, leaning, all of them (assuming you do it with the controll) will effect what your character is doing on screen. If moving the controller always effects the game, then it is extremely restrictive.

no if you stand up without pointing the controller up it will not move up.

[Vegitto-kun]

If, in an FPS, you move the controll up to look up, standing up (with your controller) would make you look up. Since moving the controller is going to be used to effect things of screen, you can't just move it around freely. Resituating yourself, standing up, leaning, all of them (assuming you do it with the controll) will effect what your character is doing on screen. If moving the controller always effects the game, then it is extremely restrictive.
You look up when you turn the controller up not when you just increase the height horizontel(spelling) Just standing up will most likely not affect anything

and ssj3 just scroll down

http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/comments.php?catid=5&id=3388


LONDON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 21, 2005--NME (OTCBB: NMEN) today stepped up its campaign for VMD (Versatile Multilayer Disc), its much talked about mega optical storage disc, following its newly appointed board and management under its CEO, Mahesh Jayanarayan.

Versatile Multilayer Disc is similar to DVD9 in that it is a multilayer technology. It is an advanced optical disc that enables mobile storage to be realized at unprecedented price-to-performance levels; far beyond the realm of existing DVD technology, it quadruples DVD storage capacity with no disruption or cost penalty to consumers, content providers or manufacturers.

Understanding & Solutions, a leading worldwide consultancy in optical disc markets reports, "NME's multilayer disc offers the possibility to achieve capacities equivalent to 'next generation' blue laser based discs such as Blu-ray - i.e. up to 50GB - using the red laser technology employed by today's DVDs. The discs can also be played on standard DVD-R drives with only minor modifications."

"I know that NME has the potential to take a significant market share of the annual $5 billion DVD industry. We can offer the consumer and media industry a 40GB VMD disc that performs and features all aspects of DVD9 for a very similar price to a 8.5GB DVD9."

He adds, "With only a small software change to existing drives, which our partners have already agreed to incorporate, and full backward compatibility, it makes the decision to adopt very easy for all parties. In my opinion it is a 'no brainer' and a 'slam dunk' proposition."

[Ssj3_Goku]

well danm that would be very intresting and hell i do see why microsoft did not put in the HD DVD drive in there systems. intresting.

[slimscane]

no if you stand up without pointing the controller up it will not move up.
promise?:nod

So the aiming is based on the tilt sensors in the controller, not the 3d motion sensor that you put infront of your tv?

[Ssj3_Goku]

no i cannot promise but i do not see how this is restricting you from gameplay at all.

Its innovating Gameplay not restricting it.

[Vegitto-kun]

well danm that would be very intresting and hell i do see why microsoft did not put in the HD DVD drive in there systems. intresting.
omg image if the revolution used this technology :amazed

sony would be all ''omg look we have BLUE RAY OMG 50+ gig''

and nintendo is all ''OMG we have 40-50 gig NORMAL DVD's which are uber cheap lol sony you n00b''

And sony is just all ''omg noes (suicide)''

[slimscane]

no i cannot promise but i do not see how this is restricting you from gameplay at all.

Its innovating Gameplay not restricting it.
Of course it isn't restricting gameplay! I never said thatsmile-big I just that that it might be really restrictive to, well, I guess comfort and freedom? I guess it could be put like that, because I figured you wouldn't be able to move the controller without effecting the game.

[Ssj3_Goku]

omg image if the revolution used this technology :amazed

sony would be all ''omg look we have BLUE RAY OMG 50+ gig''

and nintendo is all ''OMG we have 40-50 gig NORMAL DVD's which are uber cheap lol sony you n00b''

And sony is just all ''omg noes (suicide)''


yea i really do not understand why they went that route now :/ o well let them do what they want.


plus slime conformt and freedom? mostly when i move around ( i do not sit right either) my controller stays in the same spot :oh seriously i do not see it restricting anything honestly.

check out the teaser video for revoultion those guys do not look like they are restricted and one jumps over a chair and all!

[Vegitto-kun]

yea i really do not understand why they went that route now :/ o well let them do what they want.
Yeah, the newest games barely use half of the dvd's heck even the x360 games dont use alot of the 9gig. I bet they just put it in so they could brag about omg their power console o all the graphix whores can orgasm on the PS3.Heck, even with HD content I doubt that they will even use more then 10 gig

[slimscane]

He jumps over the couch and then turns the Rev on =). It might be just me, but in really intensive games, like FPSs I often move the controller alot. But I suppose if you have to move the controller to control the game, you wouldn't really have the urge to move it otherwise right? In anycase, it was just a thought. How often do you guys think the motion sensing technology is actually going to be used? I mean, besides the early games that just use the tech gimicly (just like what happened on the DS, I am convinced it will happen to the Rev too). Example, in SSB Revolution, do you think that I will have to move my controller in a loop to do ness' tripple jump? =)

[Vegitto-kun]

He jumps over the couch and then turns the Rev on =). It might be just me, but in really intensive games, like FPSs I often move the controller alot. But I suppose if you have to move the controller to control the game, you wouldn't really have the urge to move it otherwise right? In anycase, it was just a thought. How often do you guys think the motion sensing technology is actually going to be used? I mean, besides the early games that just use the tech gimicly (just like what happened on the DS, I am convinced it will happen to the Rev too). Example, in SSB Revolution, do you think that I will have to move my controller in a loop to do ness' tripple jump? =)
I dont really know, I am pretty sure that it will be used for all the menus atleast XD

I am not bothered, just because you can do the motion detecting you dont have to use it, if the developer doesnt want to use they should not be forced to use it because he can.

[Ssj3_Goku]

slime do you play PC FPS's?

and slime the possiblities for Smash are endless :)

[crazymtf]

Controller will be horrible, quote me for this when the system comes out and i laugh at all you. No one wants the system, people are just buying it because it's cheap, everybody knows this. SS3 the uber fanboy who won't admit it and vegttio like it, everybody has doubts and they should. Look at gamecube people, it was garbage, can't you see the trail? Oh here comes those neg reps from my three fav customers, SS3 goku, Gunners, and Vagitto.

[Vegitto-kun]

slime do you play PC FPS's?

and slime the possiblities for Smash are endless :)
Nothing is endless :amazed

You know what I think is going to happen to blue ray disks? Problems with the code being too messy, they have so much space so they dont really need to compress it so that it fits so they can be more messy maybe making the PS3 still have the crappy loading screens of doom like the PS2

[slimscane]

I use to play them a good bit, back in the day though, like, when my computer was alright. I actually played CS when it was in beta (according to one of my friends, I didn't remember). Why?

Ooo, it would be cool if you had to swing the controller to do a smash! =D

[Vegitto-kun]

Controller will be horrible, quote me for this when the system comes out and i laugh at all you. No one wants the system, people are just buying it because it's cheap, everybody knows this. SS3 the uber fanboy who won't admit it and vegttio like it, everybody has doubts and they should. Look at gamecube people, it was garbage, can't you see the trail? Oh here comes those neg reps from my three fav customers, SS3 goku, Gunners, and Vagitto.
Oh yeah you so know that it will suck while people who actually have tried it are not right because your almighty and you know everything. Your word means more then professional reviewers who make a living trying out new games and consoles. So shut up if your just going to be a idiot and go away.
those people who have actually played with the controller loved it.

Reported

[crazymtf]

Don't give a fuck what the reporters say, it's my thoughts now accept it and move on, the end. But no you can't accept an opinion so your going to go on, i accepted you'res, we can see who is more mature ^_^

[Vegitto-kun]

Don't give a fuck what the reporters say, it's my thoughts now accept it and move on, the end. But no you can't accept an opinion so your going to go on, i accepted you'res, we can see who is more mature ^_^
Oh yeah calling me vagitto is oh so mature and accepting my opinion, go away little boy. Time to ignore your irritating ass.

[crazymtf]

Oh noes, i spelled your name vaggito instead of veggito, WOOPS! God darn it! -_- The controller will suck - my opinion - move on :)

SS3 - Fanboy of nintendo who loves mario so much. Nice neg rep you cock sucker, come on report me again, nothing happens, you fucking weirdo, get a life, no better yet get a better job, shit i'm 3 years younger then you and still getting more money you fucking nut eating asshole. I hope you seriously die because your just to gay for this world, now jump off a bridge with the shitty idea of the revolution controller. :nod

[Vegitto-kun]

Anyway, you guys heard about the interview where some big shot nintendo guy said that there will be around 20 launchgames?

[crazymtf]

Really? Who cares if there all like this game the'll suck.

[slimscane]

No, but I don't believe it either, haha. Unless that is including Virtual Console games. =)

[Vegitto-kun]

No, but I don't believe it either, haha. Unless that is including Virtual Console games. =)
Nintendo of America's George Harrison has stated there should be a healthy number of launch titles for the Revolution...

Interviewed by Game Informer Magazine Senior Vice President of Marketing and Corporate Communication at Nintendo America George Harrison said there would be approximately twenty titles for the console's launch, a third of which would come from Nintendo - certainly a higher proportion than most Nintendo consoles so far.

However, lessons have apparently been learnt from the GameCube this generation. "We recognized... that you really make your reputation in the first year. You've got to deliver software, not just at launch, but you've got to deliver software in the first six to nine months after launch. It has to be solid software," Harrison stated. "In GameCube, we didn't have that, we had kind of a drought for six months after it launched. By that time your reputation starts to solidify and it's hard to reverse that after awhile."

Harrison also commented on what would be in the Revolution box on launch day. One free-hand controller and nunchucku are confirmed, though a second controller is apparently also being considered. Comparing the system's price point to that of the Xbox 360's, he commented that "our goal is to come in at a slightly more mass market price."

There'll be lots more to come as E3 draws nearer!



http://www.revolutionreport.com/articles/read/383