View Full Version : Arlong vs Kisame
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 02:51 AM
Aight, I thought this would be spiffy. Arlong can use everything he has, but Kisame is limited to his swords, and that thing Zabuza does with the mist.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 03:02 AM
Arlong. Kisame probably wouldn't even be able to hurt him. But then again using Samehada with hidden mist he cut up could up Arlong, but Samehada's main function is to drain chakra, something Arlong doesn't even have, rendering Samehada pretty much useless. It would just take Arlong getting a hand on Kisame and he'd be dead. He could easily crush him with his strength.
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 03:04 AM
Hm... True, Samehada isnt that good of a sword against someone like this. Okay, Kisame has Zabuza's sword for some reason. That may help. And some more basic Sutons, such as the clone jutsu.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 03:10 AM
Hm... True, Samehada isnt that good of a sword against someone like this. Okay, Kisame has Zabuza's sword for some reason. That may help. And some more basic Sutons, such as the clone jutsu.
The change of sword wouldn't do much. It would probably shatter used against him. Clone jutsu without other effective jutsu is pretty much useless. It could only be used to run away without other things to use it with.
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 03:15 AM
Well, I said "Sutons", so more then the clone. So, you know, mix it up.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 03:21 AM
be more specific. As of now Arlong has this.
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 03:37 AM
Goshokuzame - Fire Sharks Eating, Baku Suishouha - Bursting Water Collision Waves. Now, this is tricky for Kisame. The latter may screw him over.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 03:46 AM
Goshokuzame - Fire Sharks Eating, Baku Suishouha - Bursting Water Collision Waves. Now, this is tricky for Kisame. The latter may screw him over.
The thing is, water techniques won't do any good because Arlong strong is actually augmented when he is in the water and he is also much fast. I don't see how Kisame could win even with his jutsus.
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 03:49 AM
Well... Lets see... I dont remember a whole lot about Kisame... But how did Luffy beat Arlong?
CABLE
01-23-2006, 04:13 AM
By getting crazy pissed and going all out on him.
~ Masamune ~
01-23-2006, 04:31 AM
Kisame,he's an excellent tai jutsu user and has superhuman strength(Arlong 2),but kisame takes this one with his sword if not in water.
The Captain
01-23-2006, 05:29 AM
Kisame has monstrous strength and a very high stamina and chakra level.
Plus,Kisame can use his Samehada(spiky mode) to slash Arlong.
Maffy the Love Doctor
01-23-2006, 10:11 AM
Someone shot a cannon ball at Arlong and he caught it in his mouth.... then crushed it with his teeth. He also shot drops of water at people that were as powerful as getting shot at by a shotgun. The guy is a beast.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 10:25 AM
Kisame,he's an excellent tai jutsu user and has superhuman strength(Arlong 2),but kisame takes this one with his sword if not in water.
Kisame has super-human strength? Proof please. Also I already stated that his swords primary function is shaving chakra, something Arlong lacks. So Samehada would be pretty useless in this battle.
Danchou
01-23-2006, 10:39 AM
Arlong shoots waterbullets at Kisame and Kisame wouldn't be able to do much about it. Physical strengthwise I'd probably give it to Arlong as well, since he can flip around houses with little effort. I doubt Kisame is that strong.
Shishou
01-23-2006, 10:39 AM
Kisame with one hand swung his sword and overpowered two arms holding back the sword with Asuma.
And Asuma has a 4-5 in strength, I forget.
And when Kisame fought Gai, one swing of his sword was stopped by Gai's nunchaku, and Gai got pushed/thrown down into the water.
So seeing as how Kisame with one swing can out strength even Gai... And Rock Lee with his 3 strength could pull a giant ass root out of the ground...
I'd say Kisame's physical strength would far exceed Arlong's. Not to mention his speed, which is surely 5+ level in stat.
CABLE
01-23-2006, 11:07 AM
Kisame with one hand swung his sword and overpowered two arms holding back the sword with Asuma.
Asuma isn't that strong.
And Asuma has a 4-5 in strength, I forget.
Yes on a human level.
And when Kisame fought Gai, one swing of his sword was stopped by Gai's nunchaku, and Gai got pushed/thrown down into the water.
Exactly.
So seeing as how Kisame with one swing can out strength even Gai... And Rock Lee with his 3 strength could pull a giant ass root out of the ground...
Arlong can knock you down by effortlessly thrown water at you. Take that in mind. Now imagine him punching someone full force.
I'd say Kisame's physical strength would far exceed Arlong's. Not to mention his speed, which is surely 5+ level in stat.
Like I said before, its on a human level. Have you even read one piece?
korican04
01-23-2006, 11:24 AM
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=51861&highlight=arlong+kisame
Shishou
01-23-2006, 11:49 AM
Asuma isn't that strong.
Yes on a human level.
Exactly.
Arlong can knock you down by effortlessly thrown water at you. Take that in mind. Now imagine him punching someone full force.
Like I said before, its on a human level. Have you even read one piece?
Yeah, but 5 strength has shown insane things as well.
Tsunade cracks the ground with one finger. And I am sure Gai physically is pretty much up there where he could easily lift up giant things that shouldn't be humanly possible.
Kisame overpowered Gai with a swing of his sword. Arlong is strong, but outside destroying buildings, his strength hasn't impressed me.
And Kisame's speed would still far exceed Arlong's. As he was not very fast. And if Kisame is capable of landing hits on the speed demon that is Gai, he has to have some speed.
Also Kori, this battle limits Kisame. Kisame all out would beat Arlong no doubt. Jutsus make it unfair against a character like Arlong. OP villians don't start to get godly til Crocodile.
Fenix
01-23-2006, 03:04 PM
One Piece world is alot stronger than Naruto world.
However I dont think Arlong is all that strong. I mean, ok fine he caught a cannonball with his mouth......k?
I think Kisame has the chakra capacity to try all kinds of jutsu on Arlong untill he finds a good combination.
K I S K E
01-23-2006, 05:26 PM
I think Kisame would have to think really hard on this one, so he will be using the mist clones for a long time. But, eventually, I think he could do it.... And Arlong is much much stroner then Kisame.
Tousenz
01-23-2006, 07:48 PM
This was done ....3 times
CABLE
01-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Yeah, but 5 strength has shown insane things as well.
Tsunade cracks the ground with one finger. And I am sure Gai physically is pretty much up there where he could easily lift up giant things that shouldn't be humanly possible.
That is due to expert chakra control. Thus that is why Sakura has super strength as well. I doubt Kisame has the chakra control that Tsunade posesses. And like I said before, Arlong can knock someone over by playfully throwing water at them. Take that but make it a punch to the face. Not even someone like Tsunade has that strength. I think we've determined Arlong in strength>Kisame.
Kisame overpowered Gai with a swing of his sword. Arlong is strong, but outside destroying buildings, his strength hasn't impressed me.
So being able to destroy buildings doesn't make you strong? Swing of a sword and the destruction of a building are like black and white in comparison.
And Kisame's speed would still far exceed Arlong's. As he was not very fast. And if Kisame is capable of landing hits on the speed demon that is Gai, he has to have some speed.
Yes but if his punches/kicks/etc. can't do Arlong's strong skin much harm, speed isn't really a factor.
Also Kori, this battle limits Kisame. Kisame all out would beat Arlong no doubt. Jutsus make it unfair against a character like Arlong. OP villians don't start to get godly til Crocodile.
If you didn't notice, this battle has actually evolved into that. We are pretty much pitting full strength kisame against arlong.
jemakai
01-24-2006, 07:14 PM
Kisame is faster, Arlong is stronger, I say they both have equal durability and they both fight much better under water. TIE!
Haven't seen Kisame's full strength yet so I won't vote.
CABLE
01-24-2006, 10:59 PM
Haven't seen Kisame's full strength yet so I won't vote.
While, that is true, this battle is on what we have seen of him. I also sort of doubt that he has a ton more potential than he's shown already.
Hitomi_No_Ryu
01-25-2006, 06:58 AM
I can't vote either unless someone answers this one question:
Can Kisame breathe underwater?:S
Shishou
01-25-2006, 12:52 PM
Yeah, but 5 strength has shown insane things as well.
Tsunade cracks the ground with one finger. And I am sure Gai physically is pretty much up there where he could easily lift up giant things that shouldn't be humanly possible.
That is due to expert chakra control. Thus that is why Sakura has super strength as well. I doubt Kisame has the chakra control that Tsunade posesses. And like I said before, Arlong can knock someone over by playfully throwing water at them. Take that but make it a punch to the face. Not even someone like Tsunade has that strength. I think we've determined Arlong in strength>Kisame.
So being able to destroy buildings doesn't make you strong? Swing of a sword and the destruction of a building are like black and white in comparison.
Yes but if his punches/kicks/etc. can't do Arlong's strong skin much harm, speed isn't really a factor.
If you didn't notice, this battle has actually evolved into that. We are pretty much pitting full strength kisame against arlong.
What I am saying is, what we have seen of Gai's physical strength is pretty buff. And it appears as if he is simply playing around when he pushes an opponent through a thick solid concrete wall.
If Kisame with one arm as a 30% chakra clone can overpower Base Gai, I'm willing to bet Kisame physically is stronger than Arlong. And with the speed, he could shred Arlong apart with Samehada.
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