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Moridin
01-11-2006, 07:21 PM
What time is it? Filler time!

I figured that as we are entering into filler episode territory now we might as well have a specific discussion thread for how long we reckon it'll last, what we reckon it will show and so on.

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anyway what do we know based mainly on the preview:

Filler arc is going to have pretty much all the karakura regulars in it, from the looks of things the members of the Uruhara shouten will be making an appearance of some kind of other as well.

It seems like everyones favourite tattooed shinigami (well Hisagi is cooler but still :P) Renji has come to earth to join in the fun

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/9461/renjiback6hx.jpg


Well any arc in bleach is going to need some 'bad' guys to beat up so without further ado lets introduce The 'Baddies'

Seem the group is made up of 3 people, or at least they would look like being the ones pulling the strings behind things

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4620/baddies5bz.jpg

2 guys and girl (well i assume its a girl, otherwise its a cross-dressing guy)
who seem to have some form of spirt power. Probably along the lines of chad and inoue having powers despite being human.

Not sure what sort of power this is, I just found the resemblance to a rasengan amusing :P

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/750/rasenganwtf6bd.jpg

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For a bit of speculation on filler duration, I think we'll get half a year/26 eps of filler for bleach. I don''t expect them to run on for quite as long as the naruto ones have/will do.

ZeonNoMamono
01-11-2006, 08:48 PM
I think the length was to be one season, 24 episodes. (almost half a year!)

... That episode... Looks... Interesting maybe. But I've still got to watch the episodes leading up to it Only one or two to go... (I'm a manga reader actually, so... Yeah XD)

TenshiOni
01-11-2006, 09:05 PM
Problen with them showing only 24 episodes of filler:

As soon as they're caught up, they'll animate a manga arc, and then have to do another filler season.

Naruto manga is 63 chapters of material ahead of the anime, and even though Naruto anime episodes usually only cover 2 chapters each, people already know Naruto will probably have short filler seasons inbetween each Part 2 major arc.

Bleach manga is 26 chapters of material ahead, and as we all know, the average Bleach episode eats 3 chapters of material (sometimes even 4).

.........

Even if they have a whole season of filler....it's not going to make a significant difference in the long run.

Bleach is in for a much more worse situation than Naruto, most likely.

onewithchaos
01-11-2006, 10:19 PM
what i would really like to see is a whole arc/season of it. just so they dont show like a gazillion little mini stories and just focus on a big one, (even if its just fillers) i think thats one of the most annoying parts of the fillers so that would at least make it more tolerable

Megaharrison
01-11-2006, 10:21 PM
Problen with them showing only 24 episodes of filler:

As soon as they're caught up, they'll animate a manga arc, and then have to do another filler season.

Naruto manga is 63 chapters of material ahead of the anime, and even though Naruto anime episodes usually only cover 2 chapters each, people already know Naruto will probably have short filler seasons inbetween each Part 2 major arc.

Bleach manga is 26 chapters of material ahead, and as we all know, the average Bleach episode eats 3 chapters of material (sometimes even 4).

.........

Even if they have a whole season of filler....it's not going to make a significant difference in the long run.

Bleach is in for a much more worse situation than Naruto, most likely.

I agree, good thing the Bleach anime has always been significantly inferior to the manga unlike Naruto...So I won't be missing it that much.

Oneiropolos
01-11-2006, 10:25 PM
I agree with the idea that if they do one big story instead of small stupid ones, it'll be okay. Saiyuki did a whole season of filler which I never even realized was a filler till I read the manga because the villains were actually well done and it was an interesting, uniform story. If Bleach does that, I actually think it could be fun to watch. Plus, Renji seems to be showing up already and as long as they don't screw up his character, it should be fun. *is a Renji fangirl*

Ha-ri
01-11-2006, 11:00 PM
I agree, good thing the Bleach anime has always been significantly inferior to the manga unlike Naruto...So I won't be missing it that much.


I personally think the anime isn't significantly inferior, but good.

FFLN
01-12-2006, 12:04 AM
Actually, summoning that fiery monster there totally reminded me of Yu-Gi-Oh... and its fillers.XD They were enjoyable though, mainly because I didn't read the manga and I didn't know that they were fillers.:P Still, it was fun. It would be nice if Bleach fillers were as developed. In my opinion, Hunter x Hunter and Yu-Gi-Oh are two series which had some pretty good filler. The filler for Naruto has SO much potential... but it's just ruined in just about every filler episode.:crying If Bleach didn't make out the Shinigami captains, and Ichigo, to be extraordinarily powered beings, these filler villains may have had a chance, but now it's just going to seem somewhat unbelievable that some unknowns are going to somehow be stronger than the main character for a while...-__- Oh well, they could always drag a sword fight out for 20 minutes. People will enjoy it until they realized that they just watched 20 minutes of stuff which will not progress the story at all. Ah yes... filler.

Would now be a good time to read the manga? I read the Viz manga of Bleach already, so it shouldn't be too hard to find a good spot from the Soul Society arc, which wasn't done so well in the anime, to start off on.

TenshiOni
01-12-2006, 12:14 AM
If any of you want to start the manga now (though, I would give the fillers a chance, I guess), you'd want to start with 182 (the last three pages of that haven't been animated).

Personal Jesus
01-12-2006, 02:41 AM
Judging from the preview in episode 63, the filler arc seems like it won't be too bad. The bad guys have interesting enough designs; the one on the left appears to be a Marilyn Manson/Willy Wonka love child; the chick in the middle looks a bit gothic; and the one on the right is straight out of an American comic book.

I'm hoping they'll drop some more Shinigami from Soul Society onto Earth, but Renji is good enough for the moment. And is it just me, or does 63 hint that Kenpachi and/or Yachiru will join the fun soon enough? That'd be awesome.

vick86
01-12-2006, 04:02 AM
Well i geuss we'll have to wait and see whether or not it will be good. The preview looked promising now we can only hope for the best. Personally I hope for one long arc instead of multiple shorter ones. There isn't much you can do with seven episodes now is there?

Skoemie
01-12-2006, 04:24 AM
Who says it's gonna be fillers... maybe bleach is going the fma way and the it becomes 2 different story's from here on in... it's possible you know

FFLN
01-12-2006, 04:27 AM
Possible, but doubtful. FMA had a main goal set from the beginning. Bleach... does not.:P

Moridin
01-12-2006, 05:12 AM
I think if bleach was going to do an fma we woud have seen signs earlier with significant alterations...but maybe.

It looks to me like we are going to get a decent sized first filler arc, the introduction of a team of bad guys as people behind the evil thats been in karakura whilst Ichigo and co haven't been there to take care of things (nooo poor afro shinigami) seems to be building things up to run for a while between them.

FFLN
01-12-2006, 05:27 AM
Uh... that whole thing about those guys being the secret evil force behind the events in Karakura just seemed... goofy.=\ It didn't seem like they wanted the viewers to take that seriously...

Shishou
01-12-2006, 07:18 AM
The bleach anime team has barely let me down. So I have high hopes that this will be actual good filler, whom non manga readers won't know the difference.

Oskar von Reuental
01-12-2006, 07:40 AM
The bleach anime team has barely let me down. So I have high hopes that this will be actual good filler, whom non manga readers won't know the difference.

While I do hope for good fillers, I don't underestimate the ability of fillers (especially when it comes to multiple episodes) to suck horribly.

Perhaps it must be the fillers of a certain series that give me my current mindset. :D

Tousenz
01-12-2006, 09:21 AM
They called themselves Angels. I think this filler arc will be pretty dam good.

Theres a hell. Why can't there be a backstory about a heaven that fell to the death gods.

Insipidipity
01-12-2006, 09:46 AM
Theres a hell. Why can't there be a backstory about a heaven that fell to the death gods.
Well because some Buddhists believe in reincarnation/hell(reincarnation for most people, hell only reserved for the worst). On the other hand, others seem to believe in reincarnation/heaven, or all 3, or just reincarnation. Given the way things have been going so far, it seems to follow a roundabout reincarnation(SS/Earth back and forth) along with just Hell(reserved for those who've sinned badly). Mainly because they already said SS is like heaven in that its where you go when you die, so it'd be redundant to have heaven and a place like heaven.

Anyways, as much as one long arc would be nice, I think theres a few problems with it(yes, I think a lot of problems with arcs begin with the fans, not all of them, just the ones that love to complain about them)
1. If people don't like it, they'll be dragged through the mud for a whole season instead of possibly liking some and disliking others.
2. The longer it goes on, the more its expected to contribute to the storyline. If a character forgets about a villian they met once and defeated in a few days, its easier to forget than someone they fought for a month, and thus will almost require replays of it.
3. They can't do it until theres a gap in the manga or else 3 months might occur where no time passed in the manga
4. The longer the plot, the harder it is to keep it original, interesting, and still conform to the expectations of filler. In fact, the complaining about "noncanon" causes a lot of filler's fate to become self fulfilling prophecies as poor quality. Its designed to be something forgettable yet they try to make it memorable? Its the same paradox as wanting a filler that actually advances the plot but then not wanting it to change anything.
5. Its harder to avoid being redundant in longer arcs than shorter ones.

UnnamedShinobi
01-12-2006, 11:58 AM
This filler seems to be turning out stupid. I hate that "summoning". Seriously it looks very stupid.

Pentangled
01-12-2006, 11:59 AM
As far as filler goes, Once they finish the first filler arc, the one that has been previewed, I wouldn't mind seeing some background stories on the captains/vice captains and other "side" characters. That would be 13+ episodes right there.

Yamato
01-12-2006, 03:40 PM
GIVE ME SOME SHUNSUI + UKITAKE FLASHBACKS INSTEAD OF STUPID FILLER ARC. Thank you

Moridin
01-12-2006, 03:47 PM
I'd hate non canon flashback fillers to be honest, if kubo worked closely with the anime studio on them then fine but if he didn;t.../me shudders. Giving characters backstories that could end up conflicting with something canon later on is not a good idea imo

ZeonNoMamono
01-12-2006, 03:52 PM
Bleach is in for a much more worse situation than Naruto, most likely.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. But another anime having a similar problem is Gash Bell. The manga has been forced to stop since the mangaka hurt his hand, and Gash Bell's VA in the anime is sick. An interesting tidbit for ya, Gash has been in every episode, even if just for a second... (and the anime and manga are in the same arc, anime just at the beginning)

Anyway, looks like it's a bad time for manga-based animes, ne?

Tousenz
01-12-2006, 06:14 PM
Mainly because they already said SS is like heaven in that its where you go when you die, so it'd be redundant to have heaven and a place like heaven.

I see you misunderstood. I said they could have a made up backstory about how Genryusai and a select group of shingami decided to run the Angels out of heaven and cast them to Earth and thus create soul society.

Megaharrison
01-12-2006, 06:19 PM
They called themselves Angels. I think this filler arc will be pretty dam good.

Theres a hell. Why can't there be a backstory about a heaven that fell to the death gods.

Angels? Ichigo, Rukia, and Orihime better get in their Eva's.

Ha-ri
01-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Angels? Ichigo, Rukia, and Orihime better get in their Eva's.


Your right, nerv might have to step in.:laugh

Ah B
01-12-2006, 07:00 PM
Renji becoming an "everyday" guy!?!?

Oh man, I have a bad feeling about this - it'd be like Renji goign to school with Ichigo, and then whenever a hollow appears of somesort, they both change into their Shinigami forms and fight it out - then the days ends with them winning...>_<

The Transporter
01-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Actually, there is one thing that actually concerns me about this arc....

Renji's in it....

Now, here me out. The reason why I say that, is because we MIGHT not see his Bankai(Or, the villians will have some retartedly broken bankai blocker).

The only reason I say this, is, remember the LAST time Renji used his Bankai? It looked like it did enough damage to take out a small COUNTY, much less a city. And, to be honest, I WANT to see his Bankai(The only thing that surpassed it to me was Hitsu/Ichi's).

Also, wouldn't it kinda downplay the Soul Society Arc if the enemies were that powerful? It would make the presence of normal shinigami kind of pointless, if every filler enemy popping up would take a Captain to beat it. And to be honest, in order to keep fillers with Ichigo in it, it WOULD be necessary, without giving every enemy retarted ability's that negate Bankai.

Well, they could do it where when he is in the real world, he has a Limiter on his power, similar to when Renji/Byakuya came to get Rukia, however, you still have Ishida, kinda sorta, and Sado, who have both displayed Captain level abilities(Although specialized in certain area's), however, that also throws out the pics of Ichigo in Bankai form on earth in the movie....

But...then...but....then....

:TIME PARADOX:

-Simon

Duttyman Momochi
01-12-2006, 07:34 PM
i actually dont want renji to come to earth... its goonna mess up the manga story line or cause some problems... filler might be interesting... but it should be done in a way that it doesnt mess up the manga story line

Cthulhu-versailles
01-12-2006, 08:07 PM
Bleach fillers will be good. I don't read the manga, however if the filler writers ask the mangaka like two simple question I.e will he develop the story further reagrding angels and upper class demons above and beyond ss. - and he says no. Bam you have a whole massive array of content. Even if he says yes, thier is still oppourtunity.

As it stands Bleach only problem is that the captains/s Ichigo even with thier power restricted on earth were clearly portraited as being superior to basically anything that would appear. Some random humans with powers taking them down would be ridiculous, even if they use the excuse "were not still fully recovered.

The fillers should attempt to be more serious then the series, this is the best way to mask thier lack of development in the story. If they are on some levels, introducing distrubing, dramtic material. Comedy fillers become shit very quickly.

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-Personally if I had control I would have two large arcs and about 2 random all kon episodes.

An example of a quick, but decent method of filler, with a decent story and fights would be to introduce 1, mysterious bad ass. Have him defeat obviously not kill some shinigami in the living world with ease. Namely Renji!!! or the special squad that takes care of the menos grande. Then have said defeated person comment on how strong he seemed, giving him crazy hype. Eluding that he seemed to be a captain. This could raise eyebrows, to those unknowing it filler and make it seem like it aizen. Following this thier should be political anarchy with the emregence of a new host of elite fighters, who where training in secret who each fight thier respective captains... one on one, or in groups. Then have Ichigo and whoever selected preferably Zaraki (ths allows for comedy) go on a mission, to the area where Zaraki orginally came from to find this mysterious badass. Who in turn is revealed to be related to Zaraki and not human or a spirit btut something more.

-Imitation of this arc, is the simplest method to insure not trepassing on the mangaka story and allowing for decent fillers.

A story about angel or hell o something could comrprimise things in the future.And the fact that everyone is an some uberisk level in terms of strength, discounts for to many interesting arc about hollows. Since each vice should respectively be able to take them down.

Ha-ri
01-13-2006, 12:21 AM
i actually dont want renji to come to earth... its goonna mess up the manga story line or cause some problems... filler might be interesting... but it should be done in a way that it doesnt mess up the manga story line


Thats what I've been thinking for for about like 2 days now.

Insipidipity
01-13-2006, 12:37 AM
As it stands Bleach only problem is that the captains/s Ichigo even with thier power restricted on earth were clearly portraited as being superior to basically anything that would appear. Some random humans with powers taking them down would be ridiculous, even if they use the excuse "were not still fully recovered.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Aizen had a lot of experiments, surely some survived. Some had some weird powers. It doesn't have to be power that takes them down, it could be some special trait Aizen developed in a Hollow or something like that in which something similar to what happened to Kaien could happen. If it destroys his Zanpaktou, even temporarily, he'd be in a little trouble. Of course, it'd still require a stronger than average vice captain level shinigami to take down Ichigo, or perhaps Ichigo won't be able to use his power for some reason. Perhaps without Rukia, he won't have a way to switch out of his body without going to Urahara(unless that amulet somehow does it). And even if thats possible, theres plenty of factors on Earth that would be important.

1. he can't do too much damage or attract too much attention. On Earth, he actually cares about people. In Seireitei all he cared about was getting to Rukia, collateral damage didn't matter.
2. He can't risk other people getting hurt. If they attacked a classroom he'd be screwed even with his power.
3. If they had some sort of Hypnosis like Aizen, even if incomplete, Ichigo would also be vulnerable
4. It could take advantage in the current rift between Ishida and Ichigo rivalry.
5. Hell it could attack Orihime and Ichigo has to save her

I think an interesting thing might be something coming out from the gates of Hell. Now THAT would be a sick filler. I mean, Hollows and Shinigami are one thing, but something out of hell, now thats not hard to believe it'd be stronger than a captain.

Plenty of ways to be "weaker" but still cause a lot of trouble.

Ha-ri
01-13-2006, 01:04 AM
Are they gona do new songs for the filler arcs? Even if the fillers an't good (better than naruto most definatly) the music is probably gona be like always. And if they are, anyone know what songs?

bronzhawk
01-13-2006, 01:22 AM
My question is have the fillers improved at all? The last filler arch that I watched was the cury of life filler. Have any of these archs lasted beyond 4 or 5 episodes? Thx.

Tsuuga
01-13-2006, 01:39 AM
Are they gona do new songs for the filler arcs? Even if the fillers an't good (better than naruto most definatly) the music is probably gona be like always. And if they are, anyone know what songs?

What makes you think the Bleach fillers will be any better than the Naruto ones? They're made by the same studios.

However, Kubo Tite, as a very "young and with it" mangaka, might lend them a hand... he helped with at least one leach video game that I know of, an OVA (he even voiced Kon in it!), and he's planning to help with the movie. Kishimoto, however, contributes zil to the anime team. Maybe Kubo will pull for us and give the Bleach anime team some content.

Ha-ri
01-13-2006, 02:15 AM
The reason I think that is because well the naruto fillers are so bad I don't think I've seen (m)any animes(that I saw) that suck worse. Now I'm not saying they will be better, but I believe that they will.

T2004
01-13-2006, 11:04 AM
My question is have the fillers improved at all? The last filler arch that I watched was the cury of life filler. Have any of these archs lasted beyond 4 or 5 episodes? Thx.
Naruto filler arcs has lasted no longer than 6 eps. The recent Bird Country arc was decent and better than the curry one. But you'll noticed that naruto has whored another technique, the Naruto Rendan.

Insipidipity
01-14-2006, 01:28 AM
Naruto filler arcs has lasted no longer than 6 eps. The recent Bird Country arc was decent and better than the curry one. But you'll noticed that naruto has whored another technique, the Naruto Rendan.
He's whored that technique tons during the beginning of the Arashi/Rice Country arc.

I mean face it, he has Rasengan, Kage Bunshin, Sexy no Jutsu, and Naruto Rendan.

He'll be an idiot if he uses Sexy no Jutsu and using a plain Kage Bunshin to win would mean the opponents are really really weak.

Rasengan he whores like Sasuke whored Chidori, except Naruto whored it less(Sasuke went ove r his limit everytime he's fought in the manga), and Naruto Rendan is like his Shishi Rendan which is like Omote Renge which Lee whored, except Naruto whored that less as well(Lee despite it being a near suicide-kill has tried it on every opponent he's faced so far in the manga)

So if he doesn't whore one he'll have to whore the other, whats so bad about that?

I mean, heck its like saying Ichigo will whore Zangetsu's attack or whore Bankai. Or that Ishida was whoring bow and arrows. I mean...its not really whoring when thats all ya got, know what I mean?

Crush!
01-14-2006, 02:12 AM
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. But another anime having a similar problem is Gash Bell. The manga has been forced to stop since the mangaka hurt his hand, and Gash Bell's VA in the anime is sick. An interesting tidbit for ya, Gash has been in every episode, even if just for a second... (and the anime and manga are in the same arc, anime just at the beginning)

Anyway, looks like it's a bad time for manga-based animes, ne?

Personally I don't understand at all why they aren't just ending the Bleach anime. There's no way in hell this arc currently running in the manga is going to be anywhere near done by the end of this filler arc. And on top of that, if this filler is really only a season (Around 24-26 episodes worth), then when they're done with it, the Bleach manga will have, what, around 40 chapters to adapt? At their insane pace of 3-4 chapters per episode that'll be roughly 10-15 new episodes! Even if they slow it down it won't be more than 20. I have no idea what Pierrot is hoping to accomplish by even adding this filler, unless they plan to have another yet unnanounced filler arc after this.

That really sucks about Gash Bell, though. Sounds like that anime might be ending soon whether they want it to or not.

Peacehomes
01-14-2006, 02:18 AM
There needs to be filler episodes dedicated to Renji, Chad and Ichigo beating up on gangs.

Does anyone know where the SS guys are gonna live? I imagine Orihime can take in a couple since she lives by herself.

Insipidipity
01-14-2006, 04:37 AM
Does anyone know where the SS guys are gonna live? I imagine Orihime can take in a couple since she lives by herself.
I think theres more than enough space in Ichigo's closet.

T2004
01-14-2006, 02:52 PM
He's whored that technique tons during the beginning of the Arashi/Rice Country arc.

I mean face it, he has Rasengan, Kage Bunshin, Sexy no Jutsu, and Naruto Rendan.

He'll be an idiot if he uses Sexy no Jutsu and using a plain Kage Bunshin to win would mean the opponents are really really weak.

Rasengan he whores like Sasuke whored Chidori, except Naruto whored it less(Sasuke went ove r his limit everytime he's fought in the manga), and Naruto Rendan is like his Shishi Rendan which is like Omote Renge which Lee whored, except Naruto whored that less as well(Lee despite it being a near suicide-kill has tried it on every opponent he's faced so far in the manga)

So if he doesn't whore one he'll have to whore the other, whats so bad about that?

I mean, heck its like saying Ichigo will whore Zangetsu's attack or whore Bankai. Or that Ishida was whoring bow and arrows. I mean...its not really whoring when thats all ya got, know what I mean?

Yeah, I agree. Naruto has very few skills in his possession so i guess whoring was the wrong word to use, but hell, i guess i'm just getting sick of the same ol same ol from naruto in both filler and manga canon. I'm sure people will be bored of Ichigo doing the same thing in every filler or manga arc as well. Too bad Ishida is gonna be worthless for the filler arcs to come tho, i always liked his style.

Ha-ri
01-15-2006, 03:05 AM
Yeah, I agree. Naruto has very few skills in his possession so i guess whoring was the wrong word to use, but hell, i guess i'm just getting sick of the same ol same ol from naruto in both filler and manga canon. I'm sure people will be bored of Ichigo doing the same thing in every filler or manga arc as well. Too bad Ishida is gonna be worthless for the filler arcs to come tho, i always liked his style.


Dude, Chad, Kon, Ichigo's sisters, Orihime, Urahara's minions, and co need alot of screen time so taht Ichigo dosen't get to be like naruto where he just dose clones and resengon every singal time..

T2004
01-15-2006, 07:21 AM
Dude, Chad, Kon, Ichigo's sisters, Orihime, Urahara's minions, and co need alot of screen time so taht Ichigo dosen't get to be like naruto where he just dose clones and resengon every singal time..
Just because they need screentime doesn't mean they'll get it. Besides, Naruto has more characters to use and they do actually get screentime but the main chracter will always take centerstage.

Insipidipity
01-15-2006, 07:40 AM
Yea, just because the others get time, Ichigo will almost guaranteed to be in it, "whoring" some attack.

I think it'd be nice if they make a plot where Ichigo can't get to his powers though. I mean say he's passed out or stuck in human form without a changinga bility. That would give the others a chance to show off their powers. Since Ishida's got no powers, even better.

Sado probably would be a bit overkil unless the opponents are strong. I hope Inoue's ability gets showcased, but I'd think Jinta's would. Everyone else is too strong or too weak.

Ha-ri
01-15-2006, 02:40 PM
Yea, just because the others get time, Ichigo will almost guaranteed to be in it, "whoring" some attack.

I think it'd be nice if they make a plot where Ichigo can't get to his powers though. I mean say he's passed out or stuck in human form without a changinga bility. That would give the others a chance to show off their powers. Since Ishida's got no powers, even better.

Sado probably would be a bit overkil unless the opponents are strong. I hope Inoue's ability gets showcased, but I'd think Jinta's would. Everyone else is too strong or too weak.


Maybe one of the three filler viallins could like "drug" him while they are talking to him, and then they attack knowings ichigos no threat, so everyone else has to step in or something. But one thing Kon has to have screentime or the fillers should be boycotted!

Moridin
01-15-2006, 07:14 PM
I'd love to see a kon fight in the fillers, I think that'd be cool. We've not seen his super speed for ages now.

2 days to go

Chamcham Trigger
01-15-2006, 11:24 PM
I have no big problem with bleach fillers, it's needed, and I think they'll handel them better than a certain other series. I don't think we'll see Ichigo bankaing a rock.

thesh00ter
01-16-2006, 11:20 PM
so has there been any reports on how long the fillers are going to last?

Zeno
01-17-2006, 12:03 AM
Raw is out. Can anyone tell if this is a filler? I don't read the manga (yet).

HugeGuy
01-17-2006, 12:19 AM
Raw is out. Can anyone tell if this is a filler? I don't read the manga (yet).

Huh? Out already? I don't think it's even aired in Japan yet.

TheBlindHyuuga
01-17-2006, 12:51 AM
I have no big problem with bleach fillers, it's needed, and I think they'll handel them better than a certain other series. I don't think we'll see Ichigo bankaing a rock.

well...as long as they are better than the naruto filler...there shouldn't be a problem...but the villains they showed in that preview has allowed me to set my hopes low...though...I hope I'm wrong

but I'm more of the opinion that they take a break.

Chamcham Trigger
01-17-2006, 01:54 AM
Raw is out. Can anyone tell if this is a filler? I don't read the manga (yet).
Fillers usually only pertain to the anime, because the anime is meant to show the manga's progression. So when the anime starts to show episodes that have little to no value to the manga (meaning stuff not shown in the manga), then it's usually considered filler so that the gap between the two is made.

@Hyuuga: I caught up with the anime, and I know what you mean, but I'll keep my hopes up. Plus the manga'll hold me off.

T2004
01-17-2006, 02:54 AM
so has there been any reports on how long the fillers are going to last?
We're gonna have alot of this question once the fillers start. Hell, people ask this question in the Naruto anime section 500 times and even tho we know when the fillers end and the question is answered, another person will ask the same question in the same thread! Hope this isn't Bleach's destiny, lol
to answer question, there are no reports on how long it'll last but most assume a year as it's only less than 30 chapters away from it's manga.

Zeno
01-17-2006, 11:57 AM
Fillers usually only pertain to the anime, because the anime is meant to show the manga's progression. So when the anime starts to show episodes that have little to no value to the manga (meaning stuff not shown in the manga), then it's usually considered filler so that the gap between the two is made.

Erm? I didn't ask what a filler was...

Auron
01-17-2006, 01:20 PM
I was hoping the fillers would show the backstories of SS characters but it looks like It'll probably just be Ichigo and the gang going up against random bad guys...oh well they can't be any worse than the Naruto ones (hopefully).

Zorokiller
01-17-2006, 07:00 PM
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/01/17/bleach-64/

some link someone posted..screens and summary of the new episode

anyways..I think this will major conflict with the manga..

first off: later on renji has some need to talk to urahara...and...Now he apparantly has the time...but he can't cuz that's manga stuff

second...Afro dude must reappear...cuz he is manga stuff actually...he is the karakura shinigami:huh

KonohaPrincess
01-18-2006, 02:26 AM
I was disappointed when I found out Bleach was going into filler mode, but when I saw that Renji was taking a lil vacay to the living world, I could hardly contain myself ^^

I hope he goes to school with Ichigo and the gang so I can see him in a cute schoolboy uniform!!!

thesh00ter
01-18-2006, 04:22 AM
We're gonna have alot of this question once the fillers start. Hell, people ask this question in the Naruto anime section 500 times and even tho we know when the fillers end and the question is answered, another person will ask the same question in the same thread! Hope this isn't Bleach's destiny, lol
to answer question, there are no reports on how long it'll last but most assume a year as it's only less than 30 chapters away from it's manga.


thank you for your sarcastic response. I only asked because there was a press conference or whatever when they announced Naruto was going to be in filler until mar. (back then now May i believe) so i was wondering if they did the same for Bleach

Moridin
01-18-2006, 06:26 PM
hazaah i think the general consensus is that the first filler ep was...well...good!

I enjoyed it and think they've set up an interesting arc

Chamcham Trigger
01-18-2006, 06:50 PM
I agree as well, it was done pretty good, though I hope I'm not suffering from lowered standards from watching naruto fillers :S

Cthulhu-versailles
01-21-2006, 04:18 AM
What is wrong with, some people, how the hell are they insulting this filler? It was not just simply a good filler, it felt like it was entirely part of the story. The comedy in it was perfect (the renji scene, as a freeloader was genius) Inoue brother (who is obviously a fake) coming to get her was cool. And, the new villans(excuse that, they have abnormal reitsu) is entirely understandable and their display at the end of the episode shows they would be tough opponents. (especially considering in the real world shinigami power is limited)

People who disliked this episode, just because it ws filler, with no other reason then it is filler, are morons. It was a good, correction great episode and easily one of the best, non fight episode out of all 64 released of Bleach.

This filler arc is going to be awesome, story wise. The only thing that is left to be seen is how good the fights are. Although, I doubt it hard to write a bad fight given, all the powers of Ichigo and co.

IMo, and I saw someone saying that apparently something was screwed up, because renji came. BUT who gives a shit, the main story will still be continued later with some modification- which will probably make it better.

This was great filler. Not good, great, the fact that people r saying it's good and it has zero fighting only displays this further. Since people tend to enjoy fighting episodes more so then normal ones.

Dyroness
01-21-2006, 10:02 AM
I like the Filler-original characters' design pretty much. We just need to pray what they do is just as respectable. As a series based heavily on fanbase/fanservice, it's just how I feel about it. :oh

Kusajishi
01-21-2006, 10:09 AM
The filo: Well I don't dislike them because they were fillers, but because they were realy bad, we obviously have diffrent opinions about it, but I thought it was realy bad. I mean the comedy didn't realy fit into bleach, for me it destroyed the feeling of Renji and made him a immature person when he was the opposite before. Also with Kenpachi is realy bad his personality is the evil guy, now yeah you get it yourself..

crazymtf
01-21-2006, 12:44 PM
This filler owns. I love when ichigo fights his father, shit is brilliant. Renji the free loader! HAHAHA...Enemes are lame but then again there just filler enemies, hope they got some good attacks.

Prince Leon
01-21-2006, 02:45 PM
I found it slightly surprising that the new villain designs are decent.

tripperdan99
01-21-2006, 03:34 PM
Ok, the filler was Great, imho, but we soon forget WHO is doing this work!!

It's the wonderful PierROT Studios that has totally screwed up the Naruto filler arc. I had to go and apologize for remotely thinking that the Naruto filler arc would be anything but the disaster it has been! LOL

So yea, great first showing for Bleach, but I'm not as certain that will be the standard. I though, would LOVE to be wrong on that prediction.

td99

Shadow
01-21-2006, 06:38 PM
I think the fillers is going to be good. I created a theory about the fillers here http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=78414

Ifurita's Fan
01-21-2006, 08:47 PM
I like the Filler-original characters' design pretty much. We just need to pray what they do is just as respectable. As a series based heavily on fanbase/fanservice, it's just how I feel about it. :oh

Fanservice?
LOL

Does that mean we're gonna see that female villian character do a bunch panty shots and various lollicon fanservice?

GAH! I hope not.

:S

Lord Of Reapers
01-21-2006, 09:23 PM
These fillers look and hopefully are more interesting than the Naruto fillers.

Zorokiller
01-22-2006, 10:41 AM
The filo: Well I don't dislike them because they were fillers, but because they were realy bad, we obviously have diffrent opinions about it, but I thought it was realy bad. I mean the comedy didn't realy fit into bleach, for me it destroyed the feeling of Renji and made him a immature person when he was the opposite before. Also with Kenpachi is realy bad his personality is the evil guy, now yeah you get it yourself..

In SS with renji acting like that, and Kenpachi..well it's actually manga-based, so it does fit into bleach, cuz kubo tite made it himself, that's just bleach, hate it or love it.