luffy's ''gears'' [Archive]

earthshine

01-08-2006, 10:46 PM

I have been hanging out in the Spiderman+wolverine V.S luffy+zoro.

during this thread, people have been refering to luffy going into 2nd and third ''gears'', each apparently making his already scary fighting ablitities even better.

now, I dont follow the non-dubbed anime, or the manga, so I am completly cluless as to what this is.

I dont care about being spoiled, and this has been buggin me since last nght. can somone explain it?

Shiron

01-08-2006, 10:54 PM

...Luffy doesn't have a third gear mode. :oh He has a second gear mode, but not a third. *Goes to that thread*

gnutte

01-09-2006, 07:27 AM

It isn't certain exactly how the "second gear" really works. It hasn't been explained. The results of it are clear though: he gets stronger and stuff.

Masaki

01-09-2006, 10:16 AM

What the hell is a gear? It better not be a manga spoiler.

Baby Raptor

01-09-2006, 06:19 PM

it is highly spoiler for anime fan one piece please to thread in libaray section

TenshiOni

01-09-2006, 06:30 PM

Moving this to OP manga.

pek

01-09-2006, 06:35 PM

Gear #2:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1130/onepiece387191sa.th.png (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiece387191sa.png)
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4227/onepiece38804052up.th.png (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiece38804052up.png)

Looks like he was going to gear up;
Then, Ill show you something even more intresting.
Watch this...
Gear...
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7880/onepiece388120ka.th.png (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiece388120ka.png)

SeruraRenge

01-10-2006, 06:00 AM

That does make it seem like there is a Gear 3. Funny that I don't remember him saying "Gear" at that last part in any of the other scanalations.

Ghokun

01-10-2006, 04:16 PM

Then, Ill show you something even more intresting.
Watch this...
Gear...
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7880/onepiece388120ka.th.png (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiece388120ka.png)
This is one of the reasons why i love odacchi so much :cry well i hope luffy will use this against lucci

jaks5555

01-10-2006, 05:11 PM

wow i never knew of this gear thingy. to me it seems like a dragon ball z ssj type thingy, were you get more powerfull by going up another level. this is cool.

Ah B

01-16-2006, 05:56 PM

It is indeed cool - but of course, too much of a "cool" thing makes it uncool. ;)

Jones

01-16-2006, 05:58 PM

think of luffy's second gear like this, it's naruto jyuubi lvl 2 or sasuke CS lvl 2. except we cant explain how luffy does his.

basye

01-16-2006, 06:24 PM

Well could be a bit more cooler

Black Swan

01-17-2006, 03:10 PM

I'm sure luffy gear 2 is not like naruto going kyubi level... and sasuke curse seal levels b/c that is not oda style to just get give characters amazing power ups out of nowhere with out working or training for it. Yes you can make the argument that devil fruits are gimmick power ups but also take into account not all devil fruits are equal and the strongest df users are those who mastered thier df powers. Characters w/o devil fruit powers can defeat df users w/mastery of a particular technique. The most powerfull character are those who develop and master their abilities like the cp9 and even crocodile who masters the use of his df. Im sure there is some type of logical reason behind luffy's gears like i heared someone else on this forum say which can be volcanization, but im confident it is not a gimmick powerup where his anger makes him stronger or something like that. Just gonna have to wait and see until luffy fights and an explanation of his powerup is unveiled.

darklinnah

01-19-2006, 04:55 AM

Shishou

01-20-2006, 03:23 AM

Best theory is volcanizing his body.

Or rather, he is quickly heating up his entire body. Stretch rubber alot and it gets hot, and it stretches easier and faster.

jaks5555

01-21-2006, 03:31 PM

darklinnah lcik one the image it would bring up a webpage to show the link.

also is luffy gears to do with dials cause if it is that would suck. casue the swamp dude in the sky arc used a jet dial so is it to do with that (i hope not, i hope luffy got some other thingy to make him more powerful)

RockLee

01-23-2006, 08:39 PM

No, like Shishou said, he is volcanizing his body. Thus the steam.

Gives him added strength, further stretching capabilities, and more durable. This explains his increased strength and and speed and why he can "kick" the air 10 times in rapid succession.

Megaharrison

01-23-2006, 10:16 PM

Of course there will be more gears...Probably 4 or 5 by series (God knows whenever that will be).

Black Swan

01-23-2006, 10:16 PM

I dont think luffy is using any dials b/c i dont think he is smart enough to know how to use em.

luffy = dumb determined shounen character so dials will make luffy very confused:confused

Best bet is volcanization.

jaks5555

01-25-2006, 04:15 PM

ahh i see that good to here. also i have not been keeping up with the manga and my question is how did luffy achive the gears, or has this not been explained in the manga yet?

OtacontheOtaku

01-26-2006, 04:49 AM

Like it's been said, volcanizing is the best explanation (though I doubt Luffy even knows the word heh :D ). The rubber concept once again proves to be the single greatest power of any shounen hero to date. The stretching in the beginning, the invaunarability to Eneru's attacks, and now this volcanization are a few of the things that make Luffy one of the coolest characters with a substance that only a genius like Oda could make so cool.

As far as a "third gear". Oda isn't the kind of guy to result to something so predicatable. He's very maticulous about big plot points like this, and his undying love for his craft and his fans is what will make him think of something incredible.

As for the ppl who are so set on "zomg!!! DBZ powerup!!!111!on1!!!", plz... for the love of god just shut up. First up, this is actually thought through. DBZ was just "OMG MY PWR LEVEL is 345,435,344 - OH YEAH WELL MY PWR LVL is 346,435,344 FER ME!! WAHAH (Something I noticed that the series never made any sense on just to point out, the difference between someone with 3000 and 1,000,000 was a monstruous gap, but suddenly when there's a million point gap near the end of the series, the characters can somehow still last when a million is still a fricken million). In any case, Oda fucking owns Toriyama in Shounen manga, hands down. However, Toriyama is still the greatest comedic manga writer of all time (ARALE-CHAN = Best. Comedy. Manga. EVER!!).

Shishou

01-26-2006, 04:57 AM

I'm pretty positive Oda implied Gear 3 with Luffy.

He even said Gear, and that he was gonna take it up a notch or whatever.

Although it could be like another variation of second gear. Since it would be cool if there were only 2 gears. Like Gear On and Gear Off.

jaks5555

01-26-2006, 11:25 AM

it did seem like there was a third gear. but i hope oda does not make a lot of them then it will be like dbz again with the ssj 1,2,3,4 etc it will just be stupid.

Kimi Sama

01-28-2006, 12:20 PM

It definately looked like Luffy was going to go to a third gear, though as has been said, since he only got to say "gear" before Blueono collapsed, he might have just been doing a variation.

Still, stands to reason that if it IS volcanisation (which seems most likely), if he makes his body even hotter he can stretch even further and faster.

Also, on a related point, since Luffy was able to learn the super speed ability (I forget the name) after only a few minutes of seeing it, do you think he'll learn anything else?

Likewise, I wonder if any of the other Strawhats will learn a super human ability from their opponent?

jaks5555

01-31-2006, 05:00 PM

I would like to see the other strawhats to learn some good skills which they can use effictively

Toffeeman

02-01-2006, 09:25 AM

DBZ was just "OMG MY PWR LEVEL is 345,435,344 - OH YEAH WELL MY PWR LVL is 346,435,344 FER ME!! WAHAH (Something I noticed that the series never made any sense on just to point out, the difference between someone with 3000 and 1,000,000 was a monstruous gap, but suddenly when there's a million point gap near the end of the series, the characters can somehow still last when a million is still a fricken million). In any case, Oda fucking owns Toriyama in Shounen manga, hands down. However, Toriyama is still the greatest comedic manga writer of all time (ARALE-CHAN = Best. Comedy. Manga. EVER!!).
Dear lord... you've just compared Toriyama-sensei to Eiichiro Oda. :oh

dragonofraven

02-07-2006, 06:44 PM

Here's my theory on the gears. I agree on the volcanizing thing, but I don't think it's that simple. Remember water Luffy? I think he's doing the same thing here, but volcanizing at the same time to create the steam, or at least putting it in his legs, because if you saw the chapter you'd remember that his legs compressed when he did the gear.

Now, as for the third gear, I think it's going to have something to do with blood, because he put his thumb in his mouth in a motion used to make it bleed(as seen in Naruto when he summoned the giant frog).

Lord Of Reapers

02-07-2006, 08:21 PM

I would like to see the other strawhats to learn some good skills which they can use effictively

Like Chopper, Nami, ans Ussop.

SGLP

02-07-2006, 08:35 PM

I just want to say it is Vulcanization.

Also, I think it is more likely that he was going to use a Gear technique or use Vulcanization to give him different properties. Like much greater strength as it seems he used it to give himself greater speed.

Lord Of Reapers

02-07-2006, 08:48 PM

I think the higher the number the faster and stronger he gets.

dragonofraven

02-08-2006, 01:41 PM

Really? Wow, who would have thought that the higher the gear level the stronger he would get, that's genius thinking you know.

Wrath

02-08-2006, 03:28 PM

Notice that when Luffy says "Gear..." at the end of the fight, his body has stopped giving off steam. On first glance it looks like he's going to power up to a third level, but instead he was actually back to normal, and was going to go back to Second Gear when Blueno collapsed.

jaks5555

02-08-2006, 03:36 PM

hmm could be that gear means power on/off. also have u notice that when luffy did it he had his thumb in his mouth. does this mean anything

dragonofraven

02-08-2006, 06:17 PM

Actually, I do think it means something, maybe you should read my post to see what I think it means, sense that's where I wrote it. And actually, I don't think Gear means On/Off, because On Second or Off Second wouldn't really make much sense. Plus, I think the steam stopped before he said gear, so that means it's not a command. And besides, the word Gear itself clues you into different "settings," so there are obviously multiple forms.

Lord Of Reapers

02-08-2006, 07:21 PM

Well we all know who he is going to save the next gear for

dragonofraven

02-10-2006, 01:35 PM

Once more we have genius thinking by Lord of Reapers.

Raptor

02-10-2006, 01:43 PM

Dear lord... you've just compared Toriyama-sensei to Eiichiro Oda. :oh

And Oda is better in my opinion. :amuse I'm not saying that Toriyama is bad, but a dragonball summary is: weak, get ass kicked, train, kick ass. repeat it until u run out of chapters or episodes whatever u see fit.

Now I wonder how it'll be Luffy 3rd gear attack.

shabbit

02-11-2006, 03:21 AM

It seems like his metabolism is speeding up. Although i'm sure I got that from seeing him eat meat after the battle...which he always does...so I'm just talking out of my butt on this one. But I'm surprised that it took this long into the manga to have a "level up" mode. After all the newer mangas had done it, shamelessly stealing good ideas isn't so bad. :) *Points at galactic civilizations II*

Wrath

02-11-2006, 10:19 PM

Bear in mind that even if there is a third gear we're unlikely to see it any time soon.

Notice that the techniques Luffy used in second gear were only his weakest, the ones he used normally in the early volumes. A third gear is redundant until we've seen the peak of his abilities in the second.

dragonofraven

02-12-2006, 01:42 PM

Notice that the techniques Luffy used in second gear were only his weakest, the ones he used normally in the early volumes.

WEll, I wouldn't really say that they were his weakest. They may have been his simplest, but if you look back through the times I think you'd see that Bazooka is one of his most powerful attacks, although simple. He's used it to finish off many a people, and even faced Waipa head-to-head against his burn bazooka, not an easy thing I may add. I kind of agree on Pistol, however. It's a really simple attack, but I still say it's not is weakest.

Megaharrison

02-13-2006, 11:25 AM

The pistol/bazooka things are all essentially the same anyway...He just punches someone really hard.

I bet my series end (aka 2050) we'll have Gear level 10 or something.

dragonofraven

02-13-2006, 03:26 PM

True, true. But like I said(or maybe not, I can't remember what exactly I wrote), they may be simple, but their power is great. Gattling Gun doesn't have the power of it, Buzzsaw doesn't have the power(in my opinion), the only attacks stronger are Axe and Gavel(and maybe that Volcano thing he did, haven't seen it enough to judge properly). If you really think about it, not that many of his moves are too complicated, leaving many of his attacks pure power moves, Pistol and Bazooka being prime examples of these.

Tenrow

02-15-2006, 02:40 AM

The pistol/bazooka things are all essentially the same anyway...He just punches someone really hard.

I bet my series end (aka 2050) we'll have Gear level 10 or something.

Not nessessarly, it would be really pointless for him to go to like Gear Tenth, secondly, I read something that said the enies lobby or after the enies lobby will be the 1/2 way point, so I can guess that One Piece would end about the same mark as shman king or slightly more by 50 or 60 chapters...

As for pistol and bazooka, the concept is the same except that bazooka is twice as strong as pistol, seein that Luffy uses both hands.

True, true. But like I said(or maybe not, I can't remember what exactly I wrote), they may be simple, but their power is great. Gattling Gun doesn't have the power of it, Buzzsaw doesn't have the power(in my opinion), the only attacks stronger are Axe and Gavel(and maybe that Volcano thing he did, haven't seen it enough to judge properly). If you really think about it, not that many of his moves are too complicated, leaving many of his attacks pure power moves, Pistol and Bazooka being prime examples of these.

Okay a big agreement on this, except for one thing. It's not that these attacks are strong, it's that as a human, Luffy has monstrous strength, which we could guess he got from training everyday with Ace or something like that. Remember Luffy attempts to use a very early Gomu Gomu no Pistol on the mountain bandit in romance dawn, but it didn't work because not only was it slow, it wasn't that very strong. We can guess that his Gomu Gomu fruit allowed him to enhance his strength. BTW is it just me or did Luffy sound a lot smarter as a kid than he is now. Maybe the Gomu Gomu fruit cause his brain to turn to rubber too, that could explain Gumo Gomu no Baka :nod :nuts :laugh

Molekage

02-15-2006, 05:21 AM

agreed. the gomu gomu fruit must has rubberized his brain too. i'd also like to point out that luffy was a wee little boy at that age, and i think he is just a gifted/strong fighter.

Wrath

02-15-2006, 06:32 PM

WEll, I wouldn't really say that they were his weakest. They may have been his simplest, but if you look back through the times I think you'd see that Bazooka is one of his most powerful attacks, although simple. He's used it to finish off many a people, and even faced Waipa head-to-head against his burn bazooka, not an easy thing I may add. I kind of agree on Pistol, however. It's a really simple attack, but I still say it's not is weakest.He's got upgraded and more powerful versions of all of them by now. They're his basic level attacks.