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SeruraRenge
01-07-2006, 06:54 AM
Looking through time charts, I just realized something.
Clover said that the ancient civilization was destroyed by what would become the World Government 800 years ago, right? Well, there was a certain people that was believed to have been wiped out at that exact time. Only no one knew that there were survivors (and there still are). That civilization was known as.....Shandora. That's right, the very same people who's blood is flowing through Wiper's tribe's veins. It was said that they were wiped out 800 years ago (Vol. 28, pg. 117). When Norland found them (including the great warrior Calgara), he said they were SURVIVING Shandians. Now why would he call them survivors, unless of course everyone thought they were wiped out. It would also explain why Norland was purposely framed. It might have been to cover up the fact that Shandora may very well still exist.
The point is this: I believe that Shandora was the builder of the Poneglyphs and the ancient weapons.
What do you think?
EDIT: Oh, almost forgot. This is where I got the timeline
http://www.thegrandline.com/optimeline.html
Hermie
01-07-2006, 08:40 AM
My thoughts wandered to that arc too, but I couldn't remember what was said about where the Shandorans and Skypeia citizens came from. Could you post the pages where this is said`?
SeruraRenge
01-07-2006, 02:44 PM
My thoughts wandered to that arc too, but I couldn't remember what was said about where the Shandorans and Skypeia citizens came from. Could you post the pages where this is said`?
Well, the Skypeians always lived in the sky. As for the Shandians, the best we know is that they used to live on Upper Yard AKA Jaya.
Walker
01-07-2006, 03:42 PM
I agree that they probably had something to do with the century, its been awhile since I read the chapter but did they have wings from the very beggining? Before the knock up stream got them?
SeruraRenge
01-07-2006, 04:04 PM
I agree that they probably had something to do with the century, its been awhile since I read the chapter but did they have wings from the very beggining? Before the knock up stream got them?
Yeah. Calgara had wings when he was with Norland, so yeah.
pakku
01-09-2006, 06:44 PM
I've seen this suggested before, and it certainly seems like an exciting idea... well, at least, I'm fairly confident that Oda will involve the Shandians in the Lost Century story somehow, but... I doubt that the Shandians themselves were the Poneglyph folks. I could go into detail, but for that I would have to do research and stuff, so I think I'll leave it at that.
jaks5555
01-10-2006, 05:28 PM
wow nice info on this. so the Poneglyph are the message for the warship that can kill the world right?
side question: will luffy get the ship???
Tenrow
02-15-2006, 03:30 AM
Here's my little theory about shandora and their relationship w/poneglyphs:
I would like to agree with Renge, I do believe that Shandorians were the creators of poneglyphs, but more than that, they were the ones who had scattered them all over their allied civilizations at the time. The funny thing about Gol D. Roger was that we found out he could read poneglyphs and left a message on the poneglyph that told about where there are some poneglyphs that were about the lost history and that would lead to the ones that were about the lost history. I think that at the world's end Raftel would be where the Rio Poneglyph is and more essentially that is what one piece is. More to the point one piece in itself is "the world's greatest treasure" and Robin had stated the most priceless treasures are those of the past. Maybe the fact that Gol D. Roger could read the poneglyph could have proved that he had deep respect for history, I mean he bothered to learn the language that would uncover history that have been lost. The biggest question I have is why in any other era has those 100 years had been lost. There is history before that, but how and why did the people know they needed to preserve the history of those years and not others. I think the answer to that was what Prof. Clover had said, they people of that civilizations had an enemy. I think the 100 years that had been lost were told of a world war. This is where my idea gets a little weird. Why exactly did the people who fought and won the war became a government. Governments in itself, their purpose, is to keep order, that way chaos wouldn't reign, however this government wants to keep 100 years hidden, why? Another question that I have to ask is why the pirate king Gol D. Roger not simply attack the WG headquarters if he knew all of this and if the name D would symbolize the connection to that civilization and that the WG destroyed his "people." The answer I think was that it wasn't a civilization in itself. I think the people who created the poneglyphs were an ancient race of pirates. The reason why he didn't destroy the headquarter was that when he got to Raftelm, he past headquarters. I think that when Roger got to shandora, he did find the Rio Poneglyph, and more to it than that, he left it in Raftel, because it was the one place that were connected to the civilization and that were still alive other than the shandorians.
Have any of you all noticed that the places that had poneglyphs, reflected off of an ancient civilization here (ie. Egyptian and Native America)? Maybe the next place that has poneglyphs would be summarian or something like that.
One of the biggest questions that I still have is what was the significance of the poneglyph in Alabasta? It neither held any information on other poneglyphs or the lost history.
Raptor
02-15-2006, 03:46 AM
I think it has something to do with the will of D.
jaks5555
02-15-2006, 01:52 PM
yeah the will of d, but can anyone think about how the devil fruits fit in with all this???
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