Can you punish stupidity? Seriously

[Toby]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20060105-20493300-bc-norway-israel.xml

This article is about the norwegian finance minister, her being a social democrat would explain the plan of action. But she is in a government as well as with the labor party and the moderates, and the government policy is quite the contrary to her plans. Now, being entered to a government in Norway we do tend to try clarify where our country stands on a political basis. But her actions are beyond disobedience or arrogance or passionate devotion to a social democrat's agenda.
Is there an excuse for such stupidity? Personally I think there is a line for how far people in power can lie to the world on behalf of those whom elected them.

Of course this is just an example, but can you think of any act of stupidity that being in an important form of administration should or could be allowed to pass unpunished or apathically?

[rimpelcut]

vietnam
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communism
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[BladeofTheChad]

you elected her, quit crying when something does not go your way, I mean we are living(Americans) with our mistakes...although Bush is twenty times better than kerry ever coulda bee..

NADER BABY!

[olaf]

When politics action are really stupid it's usually released in media and it usually makes them less popular. So they usually punish themselves.

But I doubt that the lawshould be made that way that the act of stupidity would be punished. I think that when one breaks the law of the stupidity the law would(or at least should) punish him. And media will do the rest.

[Toby]

you elected her, quit crying when something does not go your way, I mean we are living(Americans) with our mistakes...although Bush is twenty times better than kerry ever coulda bee..

NADER BABY!

I didn't vote for the social democrats, where did you get that from?

Damn it, I voted labor and expected them so manage alone or with the moderates. Now its a bloody mess of a red-wing alliance.

Besides, you didnt answer my question. Would you punish an act that is obviously silly or would you let it pass A) apathically or B) with pardon?

[BladeofTheChad]

oh, well someone elected them...all im saying is you have to change the majority, its why i could give a shit les about politics, to be honest they have all bit roughly the same throughout the years, it hasnt changed my life in the slightest...

[Hellcrow]

The worst with that statment is that people can think she speaks for all of norway >_>

[Quoll]

If they go against what the people that elected them wants then yes they should be punished.

[Robotkiller]

you elected her, quit crying when something does not go your way, I mean we are living(Americans) with our mistakes...although Bush is twenty times better than kerry ever coulda bee..

NADER BABY!

says you....and what "mistakes" is it that "america" made...that was all bush my friend.

But yes going agianst the will of the people who put you in office is a very bad thing...but you cant exactly punish them...because they ARE in power it's sad when you dwell on it.:cry

[rimpelcut]

When politics action are really stupid it's usually released in media and it usually makes them less popular. So they usually punish themselves.

But I doubt that the lawshould be made that way that the act of stupidity would be punished. I think that when one breaks the law of the stupidity the law would(or at least should) punish him. And media will do the rest.

Presidents have maybe 4 years to govern. In that time they try everything to be remembered as good and try not to make mistakes. They don't solve any problems because problems are solved with giving something up so in the long run problems will be solved. That is why they only create statistics of how much they increased something and for that to manifest they worsen something else. They don't make radical changes to take the country to the next level. For that you need to change kapitalism and the way countries work with eachother because they are related. They don't reach the other level because they battle with eachother.
A great country is like low land.
It is the meeting ground of the universe;
The mother of the universe.
The female overcomes the male with stillness, lying low in stillness.
Therefore if a great country gives way to a smaller country, it will conquer the smaller country.
And if a small country submits to a great country, it can conquer the great country.
Therefore those that would conquer must yield, and those that conquer do so because they yield.
A great nation needs more people;
A small country needs to serve.
Each gets what it wants.
It is fitting for a great nation to yield. (tao te ching)

[neko-sennin]

There is no need to punish. Stupidity yields its own punishments.

...And when the bill for all of George W's stupidity comes due, I hope I'm not even in the same time zone when it happens.

PS: Over the next couple weeks, I can't guarantee how often I'll be able to check in here, but I will still try to post at least 3 chapters of the Book of Hondo each week.

[rimpelcut]

why do you keep saying that and not post anything about this Honda book?

[neko-sennin]

why do you keep saying that and not post anything about this Honda book?

I have, in several threads. I've been posting the Book of Hondo itself in the "Fanfic" subforum for some time. I don't know if anyone is still reading it, but I have continued to post new chapters as often as I can with my schedule as crazy as it is, and I like to let people know I'm still posting.

PS: Over the next couple weeks, I can't guarantee how often I'll be able to check in here, but I will still try to post at least 3 chapters of the Book of Hondo each week.

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what does it say?

[WDT]

Since everybody has a different view on what is stupid and what is not, I don't think you can punish someone for what, in your oppinion, is stupid...

[neko-sennin]

what does it say?

Here's a recent sample passage...

CHAPTER 13
’Tis the foul stench that wafts upon the breeze,
A silent-butt-deadly in the morning:
The smell that doth brown and wilt all the trees,
Shouldst come with a Surgeon General’s Warning.
Or a twenty-one bun salute to something that died,
And telleth thee— don’t shoot! don’t light a match!
So thou knoweth someone hath let one fly;
Gas shall come to pass from out of one’s ass,
And so one can tell that all is not well:
Is it a shift of wit or a whiff of shit?
A healthy man canst not make that kind of smell;
’Tis death to all who get a whiff of it.
And a common truth for all ye who belt it:
That he who smelt it’s the one who dealt it.

Dost tha Colonel’s special blend
Of herbs and spices give thee gas?
Thou be levitatin’ when thou’rt meditatin’
With such a mighty wind to pass.
Every time thou hear’st me, thou shalt agree:
Nothin’ floats a brotha like tha K-F-C!

* Scoot getteth off a good one! *

...While we're on the subject of stupidity.

Not all of it is poetry, just this group of chapters. The rest of it is an epic tale about nothing.

[rimpelcut]

so what does this have to do with the thread?

[Eden Prime]

Can you punish stupidity?

Yes. Hense some manslaughter charges.

[Liengod]

What's even better is the bill passed on how its illegal to be annoying on the internet.

[neko-sennin]

Whoa. I write a Shakespearean ode to flatulence, and no one laughs? Tough crowd...

Try this one:

Knock! Knock!

(Who’s there?)

I be trippin’.

Canst no longer stand the heat in the kitchen, unto the City of Fat Children, down with Homer Jay and Poppin’ Fresh chillin’.

In the henhouse of Jedi ninja chickens and a posse of pink and purple kittens with magical powers, who eat fire flowers, spinneth like a sum’bitch, can’t tell which is which; tossin’ fireballs at each other! (One feather-pluckin’ scene after another!)

For that damn !Gung bushman looketh over my shoulder and he’s getting bolder, like the robo-dog Dark Toaster, or the monkey-man with his walking staff, who wieldeth the Power of the Jade Giraffe.

Divine litigation shall come to pass: when Jehovah cometh out of the closet, He shall sue thine ass.

(Subliminal soup my mind hath become, the stuff of dreams, and then some.)

’Tis good to be great, and I feeleth really back, (but tho everything’s all OK, I just feeleth out of whack.)

’Twill fry every synapse in thy brain ’til it snaps, for if it can’t bend, thy mind wilt collapse.

’Tis okay to talk to thyself for hour’s on-end, but when thou talketh back

(Then thou hast gone off the deep end.)

That’s just thine opinion, nothing’s wrong with me.

(Once the shrink arriveth, we shall see.)

I’m the craziest bastard thou wilt ever meet! (I can’t deny that.) So just admit defeat.

To talk to thyself is human, to talk back divine, and I have not slept since 1989. (Sure, but thou’rt doing just fine…)

My mind must be playing tricks on thee. That’s okay, for it also playeth them on me.

(Thou’rt totally insane! fucked up in the head!) But I knoweth a raven from a writing desk. (What he said.)

For I’m half immortal, and three times stronger than myself! (I knoweth not the math on that…) I shall give ’em hell!

I can compliment and dis thee at the same time. (And thou canst do all that whilst ye rhyme?)

I am a living example of the Chewbacca Defense: Thou must acquit me for I DO NOT MAKE SENSE.

Crazy like a fox, and nutty as a squirrel (Get thee out of my head!) Now thou’rt in my world!

(Thou’rt fucked, and I don’t think I like thy kind.) Try not to think about it, or it will hurt thy mind.

They just don’t make straight jackets like they used to, tho. (Thou hast been in enough of them, so thou shouldst know!)

Yeah, ye know me, I’m down with Don Quixote; why, just last week, I talked to Ben Kenobi: he said, “Use the Force.” and thou canst quote me.

(Well, that’s it, I guess he showed me. But thou couldst live a normal life if thou couldst overcome it.)

If there is a normal, I’m the farthest thing from it, and fuckin’ proud of it! (But thou—) Shove it! I suffer not from insanity, for I enjoy every minute of it!

Out of my mind, be back in five minutes. (If thou’rt out of thy mind, then right now nothing’s in it.)

That’s what thou thinketh is behind it: I lost my mind, I was too busy to find it.

(I knoweth what’s wrong, thou’rt beyond help.) Shut up! Now, I’m thru talking to myself!

That stupid enough for this thread?

[Toby]

Presidents have maybe 4 years to govern. In that time they try everything to be remembered as good and try not to make mistakes. They don't solve any problems because problems are solved with giving something up so in the long run problems will be solved. That is why they only create statistics of how much they increased something and for that to manifest they worsen something else. They don't make radical changes to take the country to the next level. For that you need to change kapitalism and the way countries work with eachother because they are related. They don't reach the other level because they battle with eachother.
A great country is like low land.
It is the meeting ground of the universe;
The mother of the universe.
The female overcomes the male with stillness, lying low in stillness.
Therefore if a great country gives way to a smaller country, it will conquer the smaller country.
And if a small country submits to a great country, it can conquer the great country.
Therefore those that would conquer must yield, and those that conquer do so because they yield.
A great nation needs more people;
A small country needs to serve.
Each gets what it wants.
It is fitting for a great nation to yield. (tao te ching)

Uhuh, so what? A government in Norway also only lasts for four years. And the PM has less power than a president, so; there is no excuse for Bush not being capable of doing his job. I am not saying I am a better president than he is; note that a) I am not a president but also b) I dont spend time on golf when I should be working.

ZOMG! Social Democrats are ruining norwegian economy; that means less weapons for the USA in the war of Iraq! Oh noes!

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I don't understand your arguments or your objection

[GOD'S BITCH]

I don't understand your arguments or your objection
Simple. You claim that Presidents try to make themselves memorable in the 4 years that they can. In Bush's case, he has made himself famous alright. Thanks to him 30 years from now people will look back and consider this era as American Imperialism(in Iraq). Anyway, Bush's goal is to make money which he and Cheney are doing through oil and gas lines. You make it seem as though Presidents are noble for their desire to make themselves remembered. There is nothing noble in this goal, especially in terms of Bush.

[rimpelcut]

No I meant just the opposite in their four years that they want to become considered noble they make certain changes that only appear to be good in statistics but in reality they don't do shit.

[Rotc Girl]

Then what would would the point be in doing anything at all?