The ask Jef thread

[Jef88]

hello there
i have gotten a few pm from people that asked me to help out with there drawings and asked for tips for drawings :amuse
so this place is when you have a problem and you need some help
i'll do my best i can to help you.
but only pencile drawings and painting technieks(no GFX or ps coloring)
if i do not know the awnser on the moment i'll look it up in my many artbooks or ask one of my many art teachers.

and dont be afraid to ask :amuse
(altho i'm not allways here i'll try to awnser as soon as posible)
post youre sketches/drawings and i'll help in

it helps alot if you post drawings that you would like to improve

[Nybarius]

Hey jef! I want to draw superheroes. What do I do? What do I read? What do I think?

[Jef88]

hey nybarius what kind of style do you prefure do you have some sort of example
and i'll help you out

[Toby]

I too would like to draw, but I am a freaking dweeb so can you tell me how to draw a manga character like, say, Alucard from Hellsing?

If not, then Hitsugaya Toshirou from Bleach. Seeing sa he has the best looking secretary I intend to make some strange twisted comic version of Bleach for myself...w00t?

Hey jef! I want to draw superheroes. What do I do? What do I read? What do I think?

There is only one solution *shuffles through archive like a swiss woman* watch this educational movie about leaves which are supressed in the early Ottoman empire.

[Nybarius]

I'm not about to trip on an Ottoman Toby my good man, I'm not Dick van Dyke.

jef I don't have any style.

[Jef88]

Nybarius have you drawn normal people befor?
i'll make a fast tuturial for the old school super heros

i'll see what i can do toby christ :)

[Nybarius]

I've drawn normal people but I am bad at drawing noses. Noses throw me.

[Jef88]

can i see an example?
*gets some penciles and paper and some comic books*

[Scared Link]

Did you know, that if you start tracing drawings, you're drawing skills go up?! Give this advice to people.

[Jef88]

you allready did it XD
yes its true but copying from sight is even better

[Nybarius]

Mirror-drawing?

[Jef88]

mirror drawing is rather hard to do i mean make a print of something nice you saw on the net or take a book and copy from there
*working on a super hero tuturial now*
what kind of hero you wish allready have half a typical superman look-a-like
and will do some detail work on the face

[Jef88]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8451/superhero4dj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
one super hero for Nybarius

[jkingler]

I've drawn normal people but I am bad at drawing noses. Noses throw me.
First, practice drawing trowels. Second, practice drawing vampires. You'll be drawing people in no time!

[cupnoodles]

...how do you come up with a pose for a chick you want to draw?
>_>;;
so many things make it seem pornographic you know?
spreading legs...holding titties...bending over...>_>
i want a sexy but still innocent pose!!! TELL ME ONE!!!!! *grabs him*NOW!!!!! :yell


...please. ='(

[Haruka]

Jeff, I've always wondered what the real shape of the eye looks like.
Can you show me a close up drawing?

[Cæk]

...how do you come up with a pose for a chick you want to draw?
>_>;;
so many things make it seem pornographic you know?
spreading legs...holding titties...bending over...>_>
i want a sexy but still innocent pose!!! TELL ME ONE!!!!! *grabs him*NOW!!!!! :yell


...please. ='(

LMFAO!!!...:lmao

[Jef88]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4870/hellsingeyepose2id.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
uhm i tried what i could :)
hope it helps a little :sweatdrop
i could add some more drawings of eyes up if you want to just ask :amuse

[Haruka]

I was hoping that the eye wasn't so valish. I was always taught it wasn't.

[Jef88]

what do you mean with valish haruka? :sweatdrop
i could use some more detail if you wish :amuse

[Haruka]

LOl, ovalish. Sorry, I forgot the O

[Jef88]

aah the eyeball it self is a cirkel
but the eye like we see it is shaped like a seed :amuse
because of the skin thats over the rest of the eyeball

[cupnoodles]

but browsing through the net is so much work...XD
i mean i tried it once but it didn't work, cuz you know, all those pics of nude/naked hot girls that pop up kinda...got me uh...distracted, if you know what i mean....>_>;;

[Jef88]

*nods head*
but clothes cataloges are great to for good poses
i realy cant help with that one so good :sweatdrop

[cupnoodles]

it's okay XD
just when you google things, girls aren't always dressed. XD
some things...take priority.
in my case, well...art came second....:sweatdrop

[Jef88]

hehehe XD
look for manequines or how do you call those models
from those fancy fashon magezines :amuse there maybe use full

[cupnoodles]

thanks, but nevermind XD
i just thought i'd get an opinion from a dedicated artist such as yourself ^^
(me being a lazy bum)
mangequines wouldn't work since they're stiff, expressionless, and worse of all, ugly as hell.
i'll find that calm, sad, innocent sexiness myself...if such a thing exists...
thanks for the input though. i appreciate it.don't kill yourself over it anymore, i don't plan to do any drawing any time soon anyways.

[Jef88]

ow oke =/
sorry i wasnt much of a help then :amuse

[Nybarius]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8451/superhero4dj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
one super hero for Nybarius

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jef88 again.


:(:(


Thanks a lot, will work with that! :glomp

[Jef88]

if you need more dont be afraid to ask :amuse
have tonnes of comic books were i can get stuff from
(but Nybarius being afraid :nuts thats unposible XD)

[Cæk]

hmmm jef!...:wtf...how do u like draw a face..propetly..i got the body sorted totally but the face ZOMG!...i hate it :sad

[Jef88]

oke face shouldnt be so hard to explain cause i allso made the NF portrait thread XD
um you basicly start with a cirkle
then you see whats the half of the cirkle and that line u put youre eyebrows on and top of youre ears
but it can vary from face to face
*i'll make a quick sketch and scan it :amuse
its much more clear that way

and if you can post a drawing so i can see what you think you do wrong its a hell of alot easier

[Cæk]

ah crap i just gave my dad my digital camera for his moutain thing (:blink) and i dont have a scanner!

erm but i get the eyes wrong mainly i just cant draw eyes very well and..erm...teh mouth :sad

[Jef88]

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/849/faces5tv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
this is the basic (my version is alittle off :sweatdrop)
i'll make one detailed version for the eyes and mouth :amuse

[Cæk]

ah thatsn JEF!! :nuts thats awesomeeeeeeeeeeee

[Jef88]

ow its nothing TJ-chan :amuse
sarah :oh you stalker

[Moridin]

Yo Mr Jef, I have a question for you :)

do you have any tips for drawing manga style hair in a clean, defined form? I can never get a nice look to it.

actually finding this tricky to explain, it just doesn;t have such nice clean curves and lines to it as I'd like but I don;'t know what to do to improve

its something like that anyway...

[Jef88]

mmmm
i realy never tried real manga hair my self befor but i'll try too check it out for you my friend
:thumbs
*takes books and paper*

[Feathers!]

I tend to pay too much attention to one part or another... then there is no continuity to my drawing with everything looking good individually but as a whole, not looking quite right.

what should i do to solve this problem?

[Jef88]

this sounds crazy but
say you put all youre attention on the head and it looks great
then start sketching (only sketching) the body
and stop drawing
look at it befor you go to bed
and sleep over it (several days is even better)
then take the drawing and start working on the body as if youre drawing a new drawing :amuse

do not start with one part and working out from that part it's better to sketch everything from the start
the whole pose etc only let the details out and then continue an other time adding all the details

the longer you work on a drawing the better (i think its like that for me could be diffrent for you :amuse) just take youre time for every aspect and dont rush it
then you will be oke :thumbs

[Feathers!]

I will give that a shot... my next draw will probably be the uchihas sasuke and itachi. thank you very much.

[Jef88]

oke :amuse
and cool idea :thumbs

[giriskooler]

i can't draw at all...:(

[Jef88]

ummm
could you specify alittle more
i would love to help but i'll need some more details and questions from youre side :)

[Kyuubi kid]

Can you show me how to draw noses, manga style?
I'm trying to do some character creation and I was wondering if you could give me a little help?

[Jef88]

i'll try to make some good helping sketches when i finished my dinner in an hour or hour and a half
:amuse

[Chibusa]

How do you get the little Icon to show up under your name? I've already got some saved...

[Core]

Hey Jef, how do you go about drawing realistic heads at angles? I got it down for the side and direct forward, but the anfle views throw me off (especially the nose)

[Jef88]

How do you get the little Icon to show up under your name? I've already got some saved...
click on users CP
then chose
edit avatar
and upload one from youre file folder

Coredin i'll try to look it up
its a pretty hard one :amuse never tried it my self (i think its just copying real poses)

[Therahedwig]

Hey Jef, how do you go about drawing realistic heads at angles? I got it down for the side and direct forward, but the anfle views throw me off (especially the nose)
Actually, it very alike to the manga version, though a bit more curves...

I learned by trying...

As for angles themselves, well think of a head as a 3-d object.

[Jef88]

youre right :amuse
thanks for the help :)

[Ronin0510]

Hey, Jef I have a question, how do you get your drawing from paper to pixels? What do you use to ink with and stuff like that? Any help is appreciated.smile-big

[Jef88]

you want me to explaine everything i use and do?
i use a technical pencile of 0.5mm or 0.3mm
and regular print paper or sometimes high quality
than when i have a good idea i realy want to work out
i start on fealing and make a rough sketch and start edding more and more detail
and most of the time i stop there XD :amuse
but sometimes i take my thrusty school pen and a bit of inkt and water
and inkt every line there is cros mark the pieces you need to feel fully
give it alot of time to dry
and then erase it
and than use a brush to inkt the full parts
then i scan it in (using photoshop for that the scanners software sucks)
import it in ps and shrink the size by half or more
save it as a jpeg and upload it on http://www.imageshack.us/
then the work is done

but you prolly want more detail dont you? :sweatdrop

[Ronin0510]

Lol actually Jef that was a fine explantion, my buddy has some drawings that we want to put on the computer, but we were stomped about what kind of ink to use to ink the pencil lines so that it would show up really good when we scan the drawings. Thanks Jef you're awesome.

[Jef88]

no problem and no i'm not :amuse
:sweatdrop i just do my best to help

[spirishman]

ok I need help on drawing buildings, I try and try but they're never symmetric and look like crap. Got any tips?

Oh and i use a ruler and some how get them all un-symmetric T.T

[Jef88]

can you post a drawing i can see and maybe correct?
(but i'll make a quick one my self)

[semperfi]

jeff i made a drawing http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2482/schaap3xg.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schaap3xg.png)
cool

[Jef88]

heheh ms paint :nuts
nice sheep :thumbs (cant help with ms paint tho :))

[semperfi]

ow, sorry to hear that,,,,

[Jef88]

:sweatdrop sorry
manual drawings are fine for me
but i cant draw well in paint

[Ave-chan]

Hi, i've just bought new pencils (Derwent Graphic) and umm... i know it sounds silly, but i'd like to know how to use them... well. How do i shade objects and, more importantly, people? And how to draw water? ^^;

[Jef88]

i guess my reply is even more silly :sweatdrop
because there normal penciles and no technic penciles makes it very easy to shade just look from which angle the light commes from and you just make the opesit-side dark you can just make alot of lines or cross hatch it all it all depents on youre personal tast
about the people i'm make some work on it later :amuse with some examples
water is all about copying pictures but not use lines for water best is to shade instead of using hard lines

[Ave-chan]

Drawing water, is this okay? (i got bored with the background ^^; )
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4280/mermaid29od.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mermaid29od.jpg)

And I tried some shading in this one, mainly with the clothes... I'm not sure how to shade faces, so i didn't want to risk it *rolls eyes*
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5582/animegal11mo.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=animegal11mo.jpg)

I know they might look a bit... unclean, the lineart i mean, but i'm still learning ^^

[Jef88]

i like youre drawings :amuse
there good
like i said in my previos post lines arnt so good to make water but it aint that bad :)
there is in youre case not realy a reason to shade the faces but if you want to you just need to follow the face lines
shades in the clothes are best: under the breasts, where the sweater comes close to the pants or skirt, and the folds in the skird
but the drawing is good enough :amuse
just keep them posted :thumbs

[.Naptha]

any help on drawing faces?

not particulalry anime faces, but just generally faces. Well, anything but stick men. im so sick of drawing them now xD

many thanks

[Jef88]

there is a small sketch i made on page 1 and 2 that might help
but i'll make a new one soon cause i still need to explain how to draw noses to someone else

[Kyuubi kid]

^^ Yes, me. I've been waiting patiently for a while now, thanks in adv.

[Ave-chan]

i like youre drawings :amuse
there good
like i said in my previos post lines arnt so good to make water but it aint that bad :)
there is in youre case not realy a reason to shade the faces but if you want to you just need to follow the face lines
shades in the clothes are best: under the breasts, where the sweater comes close to the pants or skirt, and the folds in the skird
but the drawing is good enough :amuse
just keep them posted :thumbs

I'll try, thanks ^^^^^^^^^^

[M00se]

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4315/kuva0025za.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kuva0025za.jpg)


help me on shapes and hands :) and well id like to know how to ink my pictures since all my pictures are well .. just pencil sketches and when i try to start coloring them its kinda bad since the sketch lines are there :(

[CABLE]

When doing your oh so famous portraits, what part of the face do you generally start with?

[Jef88]

M00se i'll upload a folder with all pictures of hands in it, it helps alot :amuse

cable my friend i start with the eyes
and talking of portraits i should draw some more today DZ is stealing all the attention :P
and the nose x face tutorial is comming up too :thumbs

[Amidamarox]

Jef I admire you because you have a eye for all types of art but me I think it’s too troublesome so I stick with trying to master sculpturing and drawing down to detail.

[Jef88]

wow thank you :amuse
you make me shy
havent sculped in a wile i miss doing that

[Yondy]

Hey Jef, do u have pointers/advice for drawing characters clothing? The last time I drew a Character the wasnt from Naruto was 1 year ago:cry smile-big , ive completly lost my touch for original characters...any advice?:laugh

[Moridin]

Yo Mr Jef; you, me and lots of other people have noticed that I have horrible problems drawing hands so I've come to seek your guidance on them :P

[Jef88]

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/849/faces5tv.jpg

http://www.art-freelessons.com/drawings/hands.jpgand for the hands i found some good sites (just googled it XD but if you want to i can make a tutorial of my own but i bet the site is better then what i could do :sweatdrop) i will allso upload a file for you full of pictures with hands that you can copy :amuse
heres the site: http://stevenegordon.com/how_to/hands.html
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5435/noses9qz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
and the clothing is comming soon evan (original characters are quiet the same as manga characters) just keep on trying and free your mind :)

[Yondy]

kk, i will...:)

[Moridin]

yo jeff-hizzle

I'm back for more help :P

this time its on heads, I can manage fine to draw profiles and front views fine, however I'm having troubles with keeping consistancy in other views.

For example, I'm working on designing a character at the moment and I like the look I have from a front view and from a side view but when I want to move to a 3/4 view it completely stops resembling the character.

Then I also have a problem with drawing characters looking up and down, I block out the forms and think it looks right, but when I come to add the detail to the face it turns out looking like a differently drawn person looking straight out rather than the same character looking down/up >.<

any suggestions other than more practice?

(hope that made sense :P)

[Jef88]

i'll look up something tomorrow after noon (allmost bed time for me)
oke 3/4 view and frog and bird perspective comming up :thumbs
thanks for the question my friend

[Yoshi]

Jef, how can I draw cartoon versions of myself and my friends?

[FrouFrou]

ok short question:
did i do the shading right in the following pic ?
(it´s an paintpic, because i don´t have a scanner and my camera is broken and it´s more of a study)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/jonnitao/bild344.jpg

well, the question is, is the shadow at the right places considering the light comes from, where it comes from?
oh, and a second question
do you prefer that kind of shading ( getting darker by puting more pressure on the pencil) or by crossing several layers ?

[Jef88]

first things first what is that thing you want to ad shadow on?
the shadow straight under the lamp shouldnt be there for the rest the shades are A-oke :thumbs
and i prefer multi layered drawing
use more presure only when you want to make something jumb out or making it look important :amuse
shades dont have to be hard they have to be overflowing

[FrouFrou]

did i get it right, you want to know what this thing is?
no idea, something our teacher drew on the blackboard. something round with a hole :oh

[Jef88]

so if the light comes from the sealing its oke :thumbs
but if the light is comming from behind the (lets call it a doughnut) its has to have alot more shades :amuse

[FrouFrou]

ok, combined three things
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6569/jef885vh.th.png (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jef885vh.png)
first from up there ... somewhere .. whatever, you know what i mean ...
the one in the middle from behind
and the last in front of it . i´m not sure with this one.
i know there must be some sort of shadow and i somehow feel that the shadow of the outer line must be a bit thicker than of the inner line :/

[Jef88]

its good :amuse :thumbs
only the middle one should be grey everywhere except in the inner boder because that the only point that gets light

[Jink]

I've noticed that good practice is drawing something by sight alone. And if your drawing something refrences are OK, it doesn't make you a cheater (the concept of using refrences held me back a few years) :laugh For me I always have problems drawing something in proportion with the drawing, Like when I draw an eye then the other one i draw looks lopsided and retarded. Tips would be appreciated

[Jef88]

reference is very good use it as much as you can :amuse
you can try to first start out with semetric drawings so you can just mirror the other eye
or practise alot on one area alone copy alot of pictures etc

BUT be sure to use youre basics Guiding lines
put a line were youre eyes are at the same position above and do the same for under the eye so you wont have any diffrent size problems
this can be done with every part of the human face
:thumbs
i hope it could help out if it didnt or you want to know more just ask :amuse

[Yondy]

If your not oo busy, could u help me with Original characters now Jef? ...well, Ill wait 'till my turn ^^

[Jef88]

i dunno how i can help you with your own ideas and original stuff
but i'll see what i can do
still need to do the clothing and 3/4th explaination

[Yondy]

kk, thnks :amuse

[Jef88]

no problemo
jeez sorry for the late reply :sweatdrop

[Tayuya (the banned one)]

Just got done reading the whole thread, some nice tips, but not what I was looking for yet.

1. Can you explain how you make people look at different angles? I know that little circle thing, but I don't know how to get them to turn their head to the left or right a little (or up and down as well) and trying to make everything look right with it. If that made sense -_-;

2. Can you explain proportions? I know the average human has that 8 head thing, but what do you do for the length of legs exactly? I tend to make my drawings look like midgets or something.

Also, how big should the hands be compared to the body? And the fingers compared to the hands? I hope i'm not confusing you. :(


3. How big should the nose be, the mouth's distance between nose and chin? I tend to just guess on that.

4. Folds :cry they are so annoying to try to understand. Could you help me know where and how to make them look more realistic? Pretty please with rep on top? :nuts

This is all I can draw at the moment...not good I know.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/Virtual_Alpha/dreralisticdeidarasdfa.jpg (ignore the little dumb comment, it was for someone I was scanning it for :P)

Looking at my drawing again, I realised how much the feet suck too >_<....can you explain how you draw feet? I know i'm asking a lot :( But it is the ask Jef thread right? :wtf :D

[Jef88]

its oke :amuse
alot of questions meens you have intresse :)
working at most questions right now
but i found this great picture that might help you out big time with proportions etc
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8408/perfectbody8iq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rest is comming soon

[Tayuya (the banned one)]

I took some the tips from that picture and made something different.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/Virtual_Alpha/Narutopicwithjefiasdnstufafsd.jpg
(you'll need suck proof glasses to not burn j00 eyes)

My evil artist friend told me what was wrong with it (mainly he pointed out the feet sucked again and that my legs are too short~~!) I thought I was doing the feet right since i used that picture as reference. :(

Anyways, he says the legs are short too, but I don't know what i'm doing wrong and he never tells me because he is evil! :evil

Besides those, any suggestions that he didn't point out yet?

[Jef88]

your friend is right :amuse
the legs are to short/thin and the feet look weird
i think the croutch has something to do with it but i'm not 100% sure
(maybe the head is to big or the limbs are to skinny :))
i think it would be very usefull now to have a naruto picture next to you

[Mibu Clan]

Hey Jef, saw some good tips already... But could you give me the following advice!?
Im not very good at drawing, althouygh there are some drawings Ive posted... I can post em here...

1. How to draw a human Face!! (Proportions, and Tips and Shit, I saw your done portraits and WOW...)
2. How to become better at Manga drawings...
3. How to make my hand draw better... (More Agil)
4. Clothes...
5. Hair (Both Real and Manga)
6. Eyes (Both real and Manmga... But especially Real...)
7. Noses (Both real and Manga)...

I know I ask alot but... I need help. Thanks, and
BTW nop scanner here... :cry

And if you could could you ennumerate the suggestions...

[Mibu Clan]

BTW, ill give you some old goods...

Me in my Prime... Yeah I cant draw like that anymore (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=23457) :cry
Note: I did not make the eyes or hands...

And my current self...
This is me at my current state... When I have a Good day (Orochi) (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=77975) :cry

[Jef88]

oke thanks for the questions :amuse
i'll see what i can do :)

[Last of the Arrancar]

Jeff, could you help me with brushes in photoshop cs ?

I already read some tuts, but I just can't figure out how I get those brushes with sharp points, like those Syarul is using ( 3rd row especially ) :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/syarul/manga%20tutorial/shading/brushes.jpg

[Tayuya (the banned one)]

I drew something to practice again, I didn't want to do Naruto again so I did Deidara. Sadly, I couldn't fit the rest of the body in because I didn't plan ahead :(.

Anyways, anything wrong with this new drawing? I have a hard time with hands and folds...they are evil.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/Virtual_Alpha/DeidaraClayBagFinish.jpg

[Jef88]

Hey Jef, saw some good tips already... But could you give me the following advice!?
Im not very good at drawing, althouygh there are some drawings Ive posted... I can post em here...

1. How to draw a human Face!! (Proportions, and Tips and Shit, I saw your done portraits and WOW...)
2. How to become better at Manga drawings...
3. How to make my hand draw better... (More Agil)
4. Clothes...
5. Hair (Both Real and Manga)
6. Eyes (Both real and Manmga... But especially Real...)
7. Noses (Both real and Manga)...

I know I ask alot but... I need help. Thanks, and
BTW nop scanner here... :cry

And if you could could you ennumerate the suggestions...
jeez hard question :sweatdrop i'll try to look around and post something later this week(sorry of the uber late reply)
but the biggest thing you need to know its all watch and learn try alot look for your mistakes and be realy hard for your self by pointing them out
i know this is realy hard to do i'll help out soon

sarada sorry moet je in de GFX ask thread vragen ;) weet ik niet metteen moet ik PS voor open doen en dan wilt men PC kloten

tayuta: i like your drawing :amuse
maybe it could use alittle more folds on the clothing
and some contrast would look good on it try to use some shadows :)
nice how you keep it so clean :thumbs

[Aman]

Jef, i have one thing to ask you. :wtf




How do you draw? :cry

[Jef88]

with my right hand and a pencil :P
most of the time i start out with the head (eyes) and work my way down
and do alot of premature detail work (wich realy is a bad way to start)
cause you should start with a basic sketch of the movements and major joints :amuse

[killuahxh]

I wish to learn how to drawl hentai! Because story doesn't count... I could
get paid to drawl tons and tons of nonsense sex! Sex Friend, slash, Nurse
Me! style...

I also wish how to drawl Hunter X Hunter style characters... You know it!

[Aman]

I can't! :cry

[Aman]

I can't do it! :cry

[Yoshi]

You seem to be able to double-post though.

[Jef88]

its no double tho :oh
youy cant do what?

[SketchyMan91]

Hey jeff, can u show a quick tutorial on how to draw a face facing side-ways... thats the wirst thing i am at!!!:kkbook

[Second-Hand Love]

um, hey, and can you just quickly teach me how to draw hands? I suck at drawing hands, so...

[Aman]

I can't draw. :amuse

[Mibu Clan]

Ive ben practicing on drawing human faces...

And while I have gotten better... I just cant seem to make thgem look like the personb Im drawing...

I draw the things, and they just simply look different, even if the eyes, nose and mouth are similar...

Also, making eyes is very hard... Like differiating the from people...

Any tips?

[Aman]

Take Jef's brain. :kukuku

[Kaleidovision]

here I am, to bask in your glorious awe :amuse

I draw a doodle every now and then,, but I'm really stuck on the same type of 2-D drawings... which kinda bugs me because they're... how to say... static. there's no motion, you know?

well, I'm eager to know what you'd suggest, this is the best I can draw:

http://www.boomspeed.com/xiba/bored.jpg

thanks,

Seb.

[Uchiha_Kachiki]

Hey Jef I have a question. I've been practicing drawing once again but I have a bit of a problem.

All of drawings I need to observe something, I'll draw pics such as something from Naruto or Kenshin but I enlarge the picture and basically its a copy (thats a harsh word... sounds like tracing almost...) Anyways in all of my pictures I use guidelines which helped me out a lot.

My question is I have a very hard time drawing from my head but when I watch and draw something it come out really good. Will I be able to eventually draw from the top of my head and be creative? Because now I'm just sketching what I see.
Or are there any specific exercises you would recommend?

[angelic_purity]

I've been drawing for some time now and I've realized how all my drawings look alike. It's easy to draw anime characters because I copy the features, but when I try drawing an original one I fail miserably to make them have different faces.

I have no idea how to fix this.

God Bless!

[Jef88]

oke i'm gonna take my entire saturday tomorrow to try and help you alll out
in one or 2 posts :)
i'll do my best

[ViolentlyHappy]

I was wondering. If you want to make avatars, sigs, and color manga coverings and such, do you have to have adobe photoshop?

[Jef88]

i have PS
but i'm no hero at making Sigs or avies i rather normal at using it but i love todraw them my self like the one i have right now

(gah i still havent awnsered the others T__T *kills himself*)

[ViolentlyHappy]

Crap! I thought so!

[Jef88]

why you want one
i can make one but i never tried using those special back grounds :oh
i just mess around with some brushes our use my tablet to doodle a bit :amuse

i think the GFX section is better to ask for one :)

[ViolentlyHappy]

so what program did you do it in then?

[Jef88]

the one i have now?
is done by hand and just scanned


but if i do something i use ps :amuse
but i'm looking for a DL for Painter IX

[ViolentlyHappy]

Alright, thanks!

[Blind Itachi]

...:nuts!... i was never inside this section!... here i can ask you for drawing advice!?... how about... some shading hints?...

[mushi]

I'm not sure if anyones asked, but any advice on drawing lips? Portrait style btw :ninja:

[Jonas]

jef, if you had to estimate: how long would it take for me to become a skilled drawer at manga when I buy the "How To Draw Manga" volume-books if I train with them every day?

You're the best :glomp

[mr_yenz]

Jef,

How would a person draw a gun (side view). I need help on that for a scene in teh manga I'm drawing. Thanks~!

~LR

[zinnia]

i drew some pictures but i dun't really know how to shade :sweatdrop
and if u think i'm missing anything plz do tell me ...

here's an example:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/zinnia_88/zinnia010002.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/zinnia_88/zinnia010.jpg

Thx
~zinny :amuse

[LooZeR]

This thread makes me wanna draw....
ok my question is how do you make every thing so semetrical? Like when i draw the eyes looks different and so does the ears etc. Any tips or hints i should keep in mind while i draw?
Thx i love u.

[Jef88]

i realy need to update this place with awnsers

if you want your drawings semetrical you need to draw your drawing and turn it around and put it against a window (where the sun is shining) so you can see through that will help you with errors that have to do with an unsemetric shape of the head and place ments of the body parts :thumbs

[shanu gill]

can you show me how to draw one naruto hand sighn?

[Jef88]

i dunno if i can help with that
i never drawed a hand sign and Naruto isnt exactly my specialty or hands
i would just say copy them if you can copy a face you can copy a hand
if you cant copy a face i guess its time to practise more :amuse

sorry it isnt a lot of help i know but i would not know how to draw that my self

[Pendejoz]

Nice work there Jeff Keep it Pimpin REP 4 U!!!!

[waster]

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/9828/picture062ny6.jpg
JEFF this is my first human sketch of a real persom
but it is not satisfying me need help

[Pendejoz]

YO MR.JEFF I AM A VERY GOOD ARTIST 2 AND I WAS WONDERING IF U WOULD HIRE ME TO HELP PPL OUT TOO!!! U KNOW IT WOULD MAKE UR JOB A LOT EASIER:) I WILL POST SOME OF MY ART WORK TO SEE IF U LIKE IT

[Ryuuken +]

yeah i just downloaded PScs2 and i need alot of brush sets. so, do you know where i could get some?

[Therahedwig]

yeah i just downloaded PScs2 and i need alot of brush sets. so, do you know where i could get some?
Jeff, I hope you don't mind me awnsering this one.
Try deviantart, there's a lot of brushes there, but I recommend that you try to find out how to make them yourself. As strange as it may seem, the helpfile of photoshop isn't that bad to find such functions.

[Jef88]

not at all thera i dunno where i could find them :P

No need to help pendejoz i can handle it :amuse
and one more thing you caps lock button is broke OR STOP POSTING LIKE THIS

Waster with which part did you started?
cause it's best to start with the basic head shape you know
all the basic and keep adding details

[Ryuuken +]

Jeff, I hope you don't mind me awnsering this one.
Try deviantart, there's a lot of brushes there, but I recommend that you try to find out how to make them yourself. As strange as it may seem, the helpfile of photoshop isn't that bad to find such functions.

ok deviantart i will check that out right now and i was thinking about a way to make my own brushes as well, so thanks

[Pendejoz]

lol ok i wont help were is ur avatar? oh and accedentally left the caps lock button on but i was to lazy to turn it of and by the way do u know were I can get some cool sigs??

[Jef88]

no problemo :amuse


you can resuest a good sig in the GFX section
ask nice and give a rep to who made it and i bet you will get a cool sig :amuse

[syrup]

Hi, do you have or know of a tutorial that shows how to smudge prints into the bg?

[Jef88]

no i dont sorry i cant help you with that
but this is about drawing (i'm not so great in GFX)

[Ryuuken +]

jeff do you know where i could get some good text? also how do i upload downloaded text in photoshop?

[Jef88]

http://1000fonts.com/search.php?lettre=a&lang=fr

http://www.abstractfonts.com/

:amuse
thats allready 2 with tons of fonts :)

you have to go to programe files than to photoshop and than looks for a folder named Fonts there you drag the downloaded fonts to
that should do the trick

[Ryuuken +]

thanx man.

you do know your amazing right?

[Jef88]

no i did not know that :oh
just doing my job on this forum
helping out the people in need

no problemo :thumbs

[Ryuuken +]

no i did not know that :oh
just doing my job on this forum
helping out the people in need

no problemo :thumbs
lol...you modest bastard

[Jef88]

lol...you modest bastard
:laugh
thank you
have you actually ever seen drawings i made?
cause you should :P

[Ryuuken +]

yeah actually i have and there damn good by the way

[haku3366]

jeff could u show me how to draw realsistic hair?

[Jef88]

thanks espada :amuse

jef could u show me how to draw realsistic hair?

there isnt alot i can explain about it but i can give an example
like this one i made a few months ago
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1723/kain88kg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the key trick is to draw a basic shape first (shonen mangas stop here allready)
than you use the basic shape of the hair as a border where you do not pass with your lines
now you keep filling up the basic shape with lines in a realistic movement
if your doing it right the lines will look like hair one you remove the basic shape after wards

just use a hell of a lot of lines :thumbs
that will do the trick

[haku3366]

thnx a bunch :)

[Jef88]

no problemo
i just hope it helps :)

:thumbs
keep on practising as well
if you try it daily it will do miricals after a month

[Hangatýr]

Jef, how much would could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?

[Jef88]

Jef, how much would could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?
this thread is for art questions Dave
:P

but i would go for alot of chucked wood

[Hangatýr]

Hey, the thread says "The ask Jef thread". Not "The ask Jef about art and not about animals thread".

:oh

[Jef88]

Hey, the thread says "The ask Jef thread". Not "The ask Jef about art and not about animals thread".

:oh

i thought most people read the first page befor they ask
and why is it placed in the art class sub forum
other wise i would have made the thread in the spam section :P

[Hangatýr]

Technically my post was on-topic, since I was asking you a question that could be seen as literature. :P

[syrup]

Hello again jeff do you know any good sites for brushes/ how to find them? ty

[Jef88]

Literature is in an other section :notrust

Hi :amuse
i would say DA has the best brushes

but these sites might help you
http://www.ringsurf.com/netring?ring=psbrushes;action=list
http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/photoshopbrushes.html

but there are lots more
but i'm not so good with PS as the GFXers are :P

[Ryuuken +]

where can i get some gradient maps

[Jef88]

where can i get some gradient maps
i do not know
what you mean by that
sorry ?
gradient is just a normaly overflow from one colour to an other
thats what i know
:amuse

[Ryuuken +]

oh okay thanx anyway

[Jef88]

no problem
but its posible you might mean something else :amuse

[Therahedwig]

I thought gradient-map was this weird photoshop function thing in which you could get a picture go grayscale, but instead of black to white, you could have red to yellow.

Like this:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5295/gradientmappingsm6.png

Perhaps you are talking about the preset gradients? just doubleclick on those, and then a gradient-editor should come up, you could try to create new gradients with that...

[syrup]

Hi i was wondering how do you make sigs shaped like rounded rectangles? i found another tut but it was kind of under explained for me.

[Jef88]

Hi i was wondering how do you make sigs shaped like rounded rectangles? i found another tut but it was kind of under explained for me.
i'm no proffesor at making sigs
but i'll try to explain but dont blame me if the explanation sucks XD

you make a selection of the shape you like once the inside of the sig is done
then you press ctrl+shift+i this will reverse the selection only being the corner that you dont want
than just delete them
be sure your background layer is changed to layer 0 by double clicking the layer and make it transparant by removing all the white

save as a PNG file
and the transparant background of PS will become the background of the place you use it in like nf for instance :amuse

i hope it helped a little

[badaudio]

therahedwig, those are actully called duotones

[Pendejoz]

lol i have a problem when i draw its sortta of topic but anyways im am very good at drawing but when i try to draw my own character i really got no imagination and when i do draw my own character it comes out very boring so were do u get all ur ideas and stuff to make ur drawings come out action like and stuff any suggestions??

[Jef88]

lol i have a problem when i draw its sortta of topic but anyways im am very good at drawing but when i try to draw my own character i really got no imagination and when i do draw my own character it comes out very boring so were do u get all ur ideas and stuff to make ur drawings come out action like and stuff any suggestions??
its not offtopic
you can ask what you want if its art related here
i myself get inspiration everywhere
but if i'm realy deperade i go on DA and use the search option
http://www.deviantart.com/

Games, manga, comics, anime, music and movies work like a charm for me
and when dealing with character design
you gotta think about there personality ask your self the question what he/she is like and draw what matches the character most

as for the action look
just look around for nice pictures of people in cool poses or postures etc
that allways help if you wanna ad more action/dynamics to your work

[Pendejoz]

OK THANKS JEFF

[Jef88]

no need to thank :amuse
just doing my job
:thumbs
good luck

[Ryuuken +]

ok i did a sig for someone but dont know how to give to them. i uploaded it to my photobucket album, so how do i give it to him

[Jef88]

Go to www.imageshack.com
and upload it there
but if you love your broadband tell him/her to save it and upload it her/himself
:thumbs
thats what i do
but i think photobucket is cool as well :)
i prefur imageshack for some reason though

[Ryuuken +]

ok thanx alot

[Jef88]

No problemo Espada :glomp
thats why i made this thread :)

[Misa]

Hey jeff newbie here,when Im actually drawings my charaters or trying to put someone in a pose i always miss with human proportion.. but when I do fanart copying it (not tracing) i do it alright.. do you have any tutorials or something to help out? please and thank you

[Jef88]

think about head proportions
i posted some pictures on previous pages about anatomy and proportion
but some people find it to be a little to lifeless

but think about the distances and sizes
a head goes 8 (for big people) in a mans lenght
or 7 times for a medium
6 for a female

things like the upper arm is equelly long as the under arm

try finding the picture on one of the first pages
if you dont find it ask again and i'll reupload it

[Misa]

Found them thanks maybe later I will show you some of my works. ^____^

[Jef88]

i would love to see some of your work
just be sure to post them in the right place
Naruto or bleach fanarts in the Naruto or bleach fanart sections
and your own characters or other manga characters in the normal art section :amuse

[Knight of Fate]

Hey there, jef. First time posting in this thread XD

Can you give me some advice drawing two person kissing (yes, kisses T_T), I have some problems with them...I always can't get it right.

[Jef88]

hey Knight of Fate :amuse

wow thats a though one
cant realy of a good advice i can give you but i can show you how i drawed a few of them :)


Wow the pictures are even bigger than i thought :amazed
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2392/kissmk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/222/fairyjp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i know its not much but its what i have
if you want to draw it in manga style i recoment you to not draw each persons lips completely
make it look like a puzzle that the girls lips match with the guys lips :amuse

[Knight of Fate]

Nice~ This helped a bit. :glomp

Do you happen to have anymore? Or like, real pictures. (You can use PM, if its not suitable to post it here)

Please. :wtf

[Jef88]

never actually looked for pictures like that
i would say try googling Kiss or so :)

[blacklusterseph004]

I have a question on scanning. I'm having trouble getting good quality scans. My scanner pics up all the grainy-ness in the lines. How can the scan quality be improved so I can spend less time cleaning up scans and more time colouring?

[Jef88]

hmmm
i myself have had that problem to sometimes
maybe it can be fixed by changing some setting in the scan software (be sure to write down the original ones so you dont mess up the software)
did saw a good tutorial on DA about clean scanning i'll look it up :amuse

[Inactive Luigi]

Hey Jef?
I need to make a avatar, but i dont have photo shop. And im not really good with paint. Do you have any tips?

[Inactive Luigi]

Nevermind jeff i just made this one, im happy with it. But thanks anyways.smile-big

[Jef88]

nice to see you figured it out youre self :thumbs
if there is anything just let me know

[Kitsune]

A very basic question (and my apologies if this is the wrong place to ask): How do you center your sig?

Edit: I realize this is in fact, the wrong place to ask. I'll be on my way.

[Jef88]

its oke
i can awnser that
go to user cp and to the edit sig
and just select youre sig (in the text form) and click on the centre button above the place where you type (it looks like a few lines above each other)
hope i helped :)

[Raven]

I wanted to ask you a question about drawing in general. It seems that some of my drawings from when I used to draw straight from the computer turned out good. But I have a book on drawing mecha and it shows that you're supposed to use shapes to construct body portions to get the overall image complete. So is that how all drawings are done (including all the manga you read), by doing shapes first, then constructing?

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8624/standingmechaposeqx9.jpg

[Jef88]

that is a nice drawing you got there :)
what you ask is true
its best to start with a sketching a base all is good if you do it with squares, circles or lines
its allways beter to start with a base
just so you get it right from the start (which isnt so important when you are copying but still very usefull)

[Dirty Harry]

Hey Jef, first time poster here. I've been having problems with getting the anatomy right in characters lately (as seen with the Hitsugaya drawing). Any tips on correcting this? Sorry if the question's too broad.

[Jef88]

no need to apologise :)
only thing that can happen is me giving a bad awnser :P

well i can give you pictures of people in diffrent poses showing the atanomy
but it helps as much as a normal person
i would say look very close befor you draw
but thats more a good advice than an awnser to youre question
that and practise anatomy isnt something you get right in a snap
its a colab between a study and an art :)

hope this helped out a bit if not post again and i'll try to look up some pictures that can help
at the moment i dont realy have time enough to make them my own :sweatdrop

[Dirty Harry]

Thanks for the advice Jef, my mind tends to drift when I draw people and I can never get the body parts to "connect." If you don't mind, could you post any pictures that could help me study anatomy? I won't mind if they're not you're own. Thanks once again!

[Jef88]

here is a link to a page from a few months ago i posted here
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=3173595&postcount=95
it helps alot
but if you want good ones i would say try googling it :)

[Dirty Harry]

Awesome, thanks a bunch Jef :nod

[Jef88]

no problem :amuse
if you ever need something else just ask :)

[Raven]

I guess I'll ask another question then and thanks for the reply. Um...I always have trouble constructing arms, hands, and legs. How exactly do you construct those parts of the body?

[Jef88]

:p
its getting late here so if the awnser isnt that correct blame it on that
i draw an arm in 3 parts starting with the shoulder/arm connection point which is more circulair than i have the upper arm allso draw it in a circulair shape than you have the lower arm which you can construct with a long triangle at the elbow and a straight part till the arm
but that is just the basic if you draw that do it realy light so its easy to erase
than you connect it all in a fluid line so you get a more lifely/human shape instead of some geometric figures close to each other
looking good at a picture as base is best when youre trying this for the first since every arm is diffrent the basics shapes will have some slight diffrences to
(i'm calling it a night now bye :glomp)

[Kool ka lang]

lol Jeff.

You think you should retire this thread?

no one's asked something in months.

[Jef88]

lol
i havent been active on nf in months (besides a bit of posting perhaps)
i dont realy know just supriced that its still there XD

[DeepCut]

I have a drawing related question;

How to you draw shoes and feet in correct perspective?
I've had trouble with that.

[Jef88]

that is indeed not an easy part to draw
with the good reference it might go a bit better

but try to reduse it to a basic shape
i'm gonna ad a drawing to show you soon

[DeepCut]

Thanks, glad to gear that Jef :).

I swear for the life in me, I just can't seem to draw feet and shoes. They come out looking retardedly horrible :((.

[Jef88]

what kind of shoes are we talking about?
just gymschoes, sneakers (cause i dont know anything about female shoes XD i allways draw sneakers)

[Word of Vendetta]

Question: Do you know any sites that have decent Texture resources?

[Jef88]

only know this one http://cgtextures.com/
but google is your friend

oh shit forgot all about this thread actually since i dont post (often) in this forum any more =/

[Lazuri]

^ not sure, man, keep your sketchbook away from public places. Draw better ones! that would help you cope.



Hey, Jeff, is there a database of human anatomy or models posing in different ways online?

[alkeality]

Ive Looked around and I haven't found any rounded border tuts here that work can ya give me one?