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Orotachi
12-29-2005, 10:39 AM
kurapica on the first place that he didn't knew that he can use all types nen at 100% he only wish that he must be a strenghten type but w/ the use of his special eyes he can use more than that. that makes the spider beware on him.
just like the uchiha clan, itachi he can copy all types of jutsu w/ sharinggan
plus the extreme form, the mangekyou sharinggan w/c has 2 powerfull jutsu
that everybody wants in naruto world.

keikun17
12-29-2005, 10:42 AM
kurapica on the first place that he didn't knew that he can use all types nen at 100% he only wish that he must be a strenghten type but w/ the use of his special eyes he can use more than that. that makes the spider beware on him.
just like the uchiha clan, itachi he can copy all types of jutsu w/ sharinggan
plus the extreme form, the mangekyou sharinggan w/c has 2 powerfull jutsu
that everybody wants in naruto world.

I would go with the Uchiha Clan. Why? It would be 2vs1, I like the odds

Insipidipity
12-29-2005, 11:31 AM
2v1? Even 20v1 can't beat someone with 100% control of all types of nen. He's nearly invincible to attacks, and any damage he takes he can heal almost instantly. His chain can bind up people with the force of an atomic bomb, and he can even catch bullets in the holes with it...

keikun17
12-29-2005, 11:32 AM
''kurapica on the first place that he didn't knew that he can use all types nen at 100%''

So maybe he isnt experienced enough or something?

Code
12-29-2005, 12:11 PM
Well if Itachi can kill the Uchiha clan... then Kurapica can certainly repeat that feat. If someone happens to hit him with a jutsu equivalent to the force of a missle, then he'd probably just heal himself after shrugging it off.

Shiron
12-29-2005, 02:23 PM
Kurapica. He'll hide and erase his presence from Itachi using nen, do a Chain Jail, and, well... beat Itachi the same way he did that member of the Genei Ryodan (I can never remember his name. >_<) Only, this time... have the condition be that if Itachi uses a jutsu (or it could be the same condition, I suppose), the chain will pierce Itachi's heart and kill him.

And if the OP was talking about "pre-chain" Kurapica... we know nothing about exactly what he could do back then. However, we'd have to assume he knew as much about nen as Gon and Killua did at the time, in that case. And to make things fair, this would have to be a Sharingan-less Itachi (not necessary, though). And if that's the case, Kurapica would just hide his presence from Itachi and attack at the ideal time.

Danchou
12-29-2005, 05:51 PM
I completely agree with Meijin no Kori and the others.

Also it think Kurapica's Emperor Time ability (use all types of nen to 100%) is one of the greatest feats in hxh. His fighting style with the chains and his strategy is ingenious.

Orotachi
12-29-2005, 11:06 PM
:) using 100 % of all types nen is said to be a unbelievably stongest in all hunters. if i'm not mistaken kuroro predict using the power of fortune that 7 of them will absuletly die in a second if all of them fights kurapica. and a 100% type nen user is i think much stronger than normal strengthening type like uboogin w/c kurapica survives in almost all of ubogin's punch.


but itachi is a tricky ninja that he will make kurapica exhausted and fool if he tries to chain him he will use kawarimi jutsu and clones. remember also that the bloodline limit has a long term of exhaustion if they use they're technique
(except mangekyou sharinggan) and what if kurapica accidentally saw itachi's eye (tsukiyomi) is it true that the eye to eye contact between kurapica and itachi, itachi wins?

Shiron
12-29-2005, 11:13 PM
but itachi is a tricky ninja that he will make kurapica exhausted and fool if he tries to chain him he will use kawarimi jutsu and clones. remember also that the bloodline limit has a long term of exhaustion if they use they're technique
(except mangekyou sharinggan) and what if kurapica accidentally saw itachi's eye (tsukiyomi) is it true that the eye to eye contact between kurapica and itachi, itachi wins?
Itachi isn't all Bunshins and Kawimiris. Eventually, Kurapica would have to hit the right one.
And like I said, if need be, Kurapica can hide in near by foilage, and by using things such as zetsu, hide his presence from Itachi. It's unlikely that Itachi would succesfully land Tsukuyomi on Kurapica. However, in the event that he does, it would probably work on him. That is, unless, gyo can somehow counter it.

Orotachi
12-29-2005, 11:19 PM
a 100% all types of nen user vs. 100% of all chackra (jutsu user)

Insipidipity
12-30-2005, 12:42 AM
a 100% all types of nen user vs. 100% of all chackra (jutsu user)
Not really, Itachi hasn't shown any skill in Sealing jutsus or medical jutsus. On the other hand, Kurapica can heal himself instantly if by some fluke he takes some damage.

Orotachi
12-30-2005, 06:12 AM
Not really, Itachi hasn't shown any skill in Sealing jutsus or medical jutsus. On the other hand, Kurapica can heal himself instantly if by some fluke he takes some damage.

That's right itachi doesn't show that he can use sealing jutsu or medical jutsu like kabuto.but if kurapica saw the mangekyou sharinggan (tsukiyumi)it will definitely saw his (kurapica) weakness by his pass just like in first hunter exam he can't control his emotion specially his (wipeout clan)in the tunnel of hallucination.

Insipidipity
12-30-2005, 06:19 AM
That's right itachi doesn't show that he can use sealing jutsu or medical jutsu like kabuto.but if kurapica saw the mangekyou sharinggan (tsukiyumi)it will definitely saw his (kurapica) weakness by his pass just like in first hunter exam he can't control his emotion specially his (wipeout clan)in the tunnel of hallucination.
You're comparing him pre nen to 100% in all categories?

Heck, Remember what Hisoka did to Killua and Gon when they first got the 200th level? He could easily do the same to Itachi without looking at him. He'd be a powerless baby before that.

Orotachi
12-30-2005, 09:57 AM
You're comparing him pre nen to 100% in all categories?

Heck, Remember what Hisoka did to Killua and Gon when they first got the 200th level? He could easily do the same to Itachi without looking at him. He'd be a powerless baby before that.
(You're comparing him pre nen to 100% in all categories?) even thought he got all types of nen he still got weaknessess of his pass tragedy
maybe but gon and killua got only scared but not harm unlike tsukiyumi it will trully conquered they're subconciousness or they're reality specially if itachi uses it for killing.:)

Orotachi
12-30-2005, 01:14 PM
That is, unless, gyo can somehow counter it.

Gyo itself is a counter technique of zetsu or even IN. it means by using gyo on eyes you can see more than a normal person can't see! unlike gon's case he use gyo for his fist just to focus his power on it. so if kurapica use gyo against tsukiyumi then he will ended himself quckly.:oh

Death Fog
12-30-2005, 04:45 PM
First of all, Gon uses Kou in powering his fist up, not Gyo.

Second, Kurapica getting caught in Tsukiyomi is not that easy. We also have to consider both of the characters speed here. Unless Im mistaken, in order for Tsukiyomi to work not only do you have to look in his eyes, he himself must also look in you eyes. Meaning both Itachi and his opponent must have eye contact.

So how can Itachi use Tsukiyomi if he's opponent is so much faster than him that he cant make eye contact?

And besides even if Itachi succeeds in using it, Kurapica mightve placed his Judgement Chain on Itachi's heart already. He mightve already set his condition, like if Itachi tries to fight, he will die.

Orotachi
12-30-2005, 10:08 PM
First of all, Gon uses Kou in powering his fist up, not Gyo.

Second, Kurapica getting caught in Tsukiyomi is not that easy. We also have to consider both of the characters speed here. Unless Im mistaken, in order for Tsukiyomi to work not only do you have to look in his eyes, he himself must also look in you eyes. Meaning both Itachi and his opponent must have eye contact.

So how can Itachi use Tsukiyomi if he's opponent is so much faster than him that he cant make eye contact?

And besides even if Itachi succeeds in using it, Kurapica mightve placed his Judgement Chain on Itachi's heart already. He mightve already set his condition, like if Itachi tries to fight, he will die.



1.ok, before gon enters greed island w/ killua. after gon wondering how he can reach kurapica's level gon one by one analyse the function of each technique . when it comes in gyo he noticed that gyo using eyes are not only its function rather than use it on other parts of the body (fist)so he shout and hurrey that killua shock on the other room..

2.simple, because if itachi uses a hundreds of bunshin it will take kurapica to accidentally look on his eye or use those plenty bunshin to hold him.
and when he uses amaterasu i don't think that even ten can hold it.. look how powerfull this jutsu (amaterasu) it burns everything those black flames are as heat of the sun so can kurapica managed to face the sun?

3. how come kurapica can use his judgement chain after he lost his subconciousness. he falls a deep sleep which can't be awaken anymore he can't use his chain because it depends upon the user if he got his subconciousness. i don't think that those chain are like gaara's sand which automatically protects him.

4. those 2 characters are my favorite i'm only looking their different besides both 2 can use every technique.:)

5.maybe in illusion(genjutsu) kurapica is weaker. but in neutralising the power of uboogin is a big factor.

Cthulhu-versailles
12-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Wait, so this is kurapica with the same abilties he can normally only use on the genin ryodan. Seriously, were using that one... seriously.

I'll outline exactly why itachi would be destroyed.

1. Speed. The diffrence in speed between hxh and naruto is substanial. Before even being able to use nen, by my guess i'd say that killua was likely as fast as anyone in the naruto verse, possibly even yondaime. ( this is of course arguable) However, with nen, there is absolutely no question, hunters, high level ones aka Kurapica at 100% is way to fast for itachi. Just regular old Kurapica was able to block, multiple bullets with his chain.. multiple bullets! Now if we give him 100% that reaction time and speed is increase, ridiculous. Also, the 100% increase everything, including durability. This leads me to my next point: Kurapica can be hit by grenade launchers and sustain no damage whatsover.

2. Damage- Itachi has no way whatsoever to hurt kurapica except for his mysterious amaretsu. Tsuki will never hit, the condition and speed diffrence gurantee this. Amaretsu, would likely hit kurapica's after image! Exploding bunshin, katon no jutsu, water jutsu etc, can do minumal damage at best, which can be instantly heal. Last all of itachi weapons(kunais, etc) are useless against kurapica.

3. Destryoing the sharigan. If itachi has the sharigan Kurapica has it 100 fold. I remeber in the series, hunters can use nen to read thier opponents and predict there next atack. At 100% kurapica can do this masterfully. Unless of course itachi is at that same level, of nen or better. Kurapica can out read him.

4. The chain! Kurapica can pierce itachi heart without him even knowing. He could also confine him without him knowing either. I mean look at what he pulled on kuroro, who needed like just a half second to react.. Also remember Ubogin (the first time) The thing can come flying down out of nowehre- rofl- itachi is caught easily.

5. Genjutsu- Genjutsu is useless against a hunter. They have protection from it, in the form of gyo, and maybe kyo. Sorry can't remember the names. either way they can redirect and lessen the impact. And, if chakra during genjutsu attacks the eyes, a hunter can dodge or simply block the attack, by going all Tsuygra style, like when razor targeted him with the volleyball and he specifically shield his sides. Kurapica does the same thing, but with 100% it all to easy.

6. Power! Kurapica is so far ahead of itachi here it is ridiculous. Before nen he could open the gates to the zoldick mansion.. after nen, that increase even more. Then on top of this add the 100% and itachi would be killed with one hit. Actually itachi could have been killed with one hit, by the kurapica who open the gate.

7. Last we have the tried and true, nen baptization. Which is exactly what would happen in the first place. if you take both character in theier forms and don't make nen and chakra the same thing. nen wins in every single case. because Kurapica can kill itachi by not moving.

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Itachi is dead. No one in the naruto verse can challenge the h x h verse. H xh should be banned like dbz. If you don't have nen you susepctible to an instant loss. Kurapica minus nen is a much more far fight. 100% Kurapica is a laugh riot.

Freija
12-30-2005, 11:29 PM
1.Kurapica can only use 100% of any type while in red eyes and 1 at a time, he can't go with them all at once
2.doesn't that only work versus ryodan also ?


anyway since HxH universe > Naruto universe big time, i say Kuruta

Death Fog
12-30-2005, 11:38 PM
1.ok, before gon enters greed island w/ killua. after gon wondering how he can reach kurapica's level gon one by one analyse the function of each technique . when it comes in gyo he noticed that gyo using eyes are not only its function rather than use it on other parts of the body (fist)so he shout and hurrey that killua shock on the other room..

That's still Kou. Gyo and Kou are technically the same. Both applications are used to concentrate aura on a particular body part. The only difference is unlike Kou, Gyo does not concentrate aura to strengthen, rather it concentrates aura specifically on the eyes to see through Zetsu, In and everything that has an aura. Otherwise, its just Kou. Gon may have said that its Gyo when he powered up his fist, but I remember Biske clearly explaining to Gon whats the right application or name of the application used when strengthening the body.

2.simple, because if itachi uses a hundreds of bunshin it will take kurapica to accidentally look on his eye or use those plenty bunshin to hold him.
and when he uses amaterasu i don't think that even ten can hold it.. look how powerfull this jutsu (amaterasu) it burns everything those black flames are as heat of the sun so can kurapica managed to face the sun?

But how can the bunshins catch Kurapica? Kurapica has the speed advantage on his side, not to mention that his chains are weapons that he can use to bash those clones in long range. And what do you mean he'll accidentaly look on Itachi's eyes when he has those bunshins? can you be more clear on this?

Kou is a better way of protecting one's body than Ten. Ten, when it comes to protecting oneself, is only used when a nen-user merely projects his "nen-wave" on you(i.e nen baptism). But when it comes to actual nen attacks(like nen-powered punches and nen abilities), Kou is better used.

And just because Amaterasu was named after a Japanese Sun Goddess doesnt mean that its as hot as the sun. The manga never stated it. Its just the general impression of Naruto readers. Im doubtful whether it will actually burn Kurapica even if it hit. I mean he was strong enough to withstand two Big Bang Impact punches from Ubougin after all.

3. how come kurapica can use his judgement chain after he lost his subconciousness. he falls a deep sleep which can't be awaken anymore he can't use his chain because it depends upon the user if he got his subconciousness. i don't think that those chain are like gaara's sand which automatically protects him.

No. Judgement Chain doesnt rely on Kurapica's consciousness, it relies on the conditions imposed by Kurapica. When the Judgement Chain is imposed on someone, Kurapica doesnt have any control over it anymore. Best proof I can give you is his self imposed condition that if he uses Chain Jail on a non-Ryodan, the Judgement Chain will automatically pierce his heart, thereby killing him. Now if Judgement Chain relied on Kurapica himself, then the condition he imposed on himself would be useless because he can just command the Judgement Chain to not kill him if he uses the Chain Jail on a non-Ryodan opponent.

5.maybe in illusion(genjutsu) kurapica is weaker. but in neutralising the power of uboogin is a big factor.

Gyo is better way to counter Genjutsu(as shika said), because Gyo sees through everything that has an aura on it. And Naruto characters being humans themselves should also have aura on them.

Orotachi
12-31-2005, 08:28 AM
And what do you mean he'll accidentaly look on Itachi's eyes when he has those bunshins? can you be more clear on this?

For you to understand here it is:

1. if you are surrounded by hundreds of person its commonly for you to see their faces so if you see their faces the number one you will see is their eyes. kurapica is not an Idiot to look at itachi's nose or mouth if he looks on face.

Death Fog
12-31-2005, 09:17 AM
For you to understand here it is:

1. if you are surrounded by hundreds of person its commonly for you to see their faces so if you see their faces the number one you will see is their eyes. kurapica is not an Idiot to look at itachi's nose or mouth if he looks on face.

So your saying that every single one of Itachi's clones can do Tsukiyomi? You realize that when you create bunshins your chakra is divided equally into the clones? Meaning it reduces Itachi's chakra and each of the clones recieves only a small amount chakra depending on how many he creates. And considering that Tsukiyomi consumes a large amount of chakra, you honestly think that a clone can do Tsukiyomi, much less every single clone he has?

Orotachi
12-31-2005, 03:43 PM
What if the 2 for example look at each other eye to eye only no dodging or countering just only take the risk. then itachi uses mangekyou sharinggan to kurapica then kurapica concentrates to make itachi fear on him then the two at the same time takes their risk.

as for now we can clearly see who's special eye is much stronger,
1.itachi was just run and hide like a cat that afraids to be wet because of deep fear.
2.then kurapica in just before second gets knockdown and and falls in a deep mental torture i don't think he's alive because according to itachi those who belongs to Uchiha clan or sharinggan can survive tsukiyumi but can't be awaken anymore.

Death Fog
12-31-2005, 09:13 PM
Well if you want to put it that way. Then yeah Itachi will win simply because Kurapica's eye technique does not have an actual ability/technique on it, unlike Itachi's who has Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu. Kurapica's scarlett eyes is used as some kind of a powerup for him and his nen abilities.

blaster
01-02-2006, 12:31 PM
What if the 2 for example look at each other eye to eye only no dodging or countering just only take the risk. then itachi uses mangekyou sharinggan to kurapica then kurapica concentrates to make itachi fear on him then the two at the same time takes their risk.

as for now we can clearly see who's special eye is much stronger,
1.itachi was just run and hide like a cat that afraids to be wet because of deep fear.
2.then kurapica in just before second gets knockdown and and falls in a deep mental torture i don't think he's alive because according to itachi those who belongs to Uchiha clan or sharinggan can survive tsukiyumi but can't be awaken anymore..

heck,well what if kurapica's chain pricked itachi's heart deeply, then itachi's amaterasu toast kurapica maybe here's the risk:

1. itachi will surely die but i don't know if he can also use the healing jutsu (because he's a mastered sharinggan to heal himself up just like tsunade vs. oro when tsunade heals her pricking heart severally)


2. kurapica will totally burned in 7 days and 7 nights i don't know also if his aura protected him on that long coz once touching it will be your last(so maybe it was called as heat as a sun)

Danchou
01-02-2006, 12:50 PM
Kurapica will also not fall for the Kage Bunshins, since he can use his dousing chain to identify the real Itachi.

Orotachi
01-02-2006, 01:16 PM
Kurapica will also not fall for the Kage Bunshins, since he can use his dousing chain to identify the real Itachi.

Itachi has a lot of tricks to do rather than tsukiyumi, he will just only use the sleep jutsu to make kurapica sleep which kabuto use in chunin exam without looking to an eye. or the one itachi uses in the guard in konoha.

another one is kurenai's genjutsu(just like kurama), he will just use it against kurapica to hold him up and also he will just suck up kurapica's chackra

even his chain notice it and cought he will definetly go in trouble specially if the one he thought the real itachi could be a fake body just like in chapter 259. his fake body is a product of jutsu w/c needs a sacrifice to make your entire personality will be on the sacrifice body.(w/c is aura belongs too)
those tricks can't make itachi exhausted like kakashi cause itachi has a bloodline limit who can use technique without taking risk except mangekyou.
kurapica has no alternative rather than to waste his energy avoiding itachi's
eye only.



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