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Id
12-27-2005, 09:38 PM
Yeah it comes down to these two.............
(Ok I promise this will be my last match up involving Saint Seiya and Samurai Deeper Kyo for a while:cry .............. but still give it chance:nuts )

Saga from Saint Seiya with his gold armor.

VS

Kyo from Samurai Deeper Kyo in his true body.

Tokito
12-27-2005, 09:54 PM
No idea about Saint Seiya, neither read or watched it *hides behind a tree*
So give me info about it pls:D

Id
12-27-2005, 10:05 PM
From the Power directory

I'll start things off with my favorite character. I know Id already wrote about him but here is a detailed information about Saga.


GEMINI SAGA

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6492/geminisgoldav3ea.jpg

PROFILE

Name: Saga
Race: Human
Constellation: Gemini (The Twins)
Birthday: May 30th
Age: 28
Cloth: Gold Cloth
Group: Athena's Saint
Rank: Gold Saint
Country: Greece, Athens
Height: 188 cm
Weight: 87 kg
Blood Type: AB
Hair: Blue
Eyes: Green
Anime/Manga: Saint Seiya


BACKGROUND

Saga since he was child he had two souls one is as pure as god and the other as the devil, when the Good Saga is controlling the body his hair is blue and eye Green but when the Dark Saga gains control his hair turns grey and the eye red. Saga became a Gold Saint when he was kid and his job is to protect the goddess Athena at any cost and fight for her even if it means sacrificing his own life. Saga being of the Gemini Constellation and owning the Gemini Gold Cloth was in charge of protecting the Gemini house from any one who would try to invade the Sanctuary. Saga was said to be the most powerful saint in Sanctuary, he was respected by everybody. Saga being one of the strongest Gold Saint was nominated with Aioros to be the successor of the old pope, Shion.

Shion despite knowing that Saga was more respected and have the abilities to lead the Sanctuary decided to choose Aioros because he felt a darkness in Saga's soul. Saga accepted that because his only goal was to serve Athena. Saga had a twin brother, Kanon. Kanon was said to be as strong as Saga but he had evil ambitions. He asked Saga and encouraged him to kill baby Athena, Saga being one of the most loyal Saints to Athena locked his own brother in Cape Sunion.

Kanon's word had effects on Saga and Saga started to doubt the pope actions and his evil side has started to awaken again. Finally the good Saga lost control over his own body and his evil side got the control over Saga's body, Thus he killed the old pope, Shion and he became the new Pope. Nobody were doubting Saga because they thought he was the original pope. Dark Saga tried many times to kill Baby Athena but the Good Saga were always in his way stopping him in the last moments, and on one of the nights Dark Saga was trying to kill Baby Athena and he was followed by Aioros, before Saga being able to kill the baby the Gold Saint Aioros were able to help the baby in the last moment and learned about the pope's true identity, he was the Gemini Saint Saga. Things got complicated and Aioros was able to escape, Evil Saga announced that Aioros tried to kill Baby Athena and then escaped thus Aioros were considered a betrayer of Sanctuary.

For years Evil Saga were using the Gold Saints and other Saints in sanctuary to achieve his own goals and the saints were following his orders because the pope's orders are absolute for he, was an avatar of a god. On the other hand Athena grew young and finally gained her divine powers, together with the young Bronze Saints they attacked Sanctuary to get Athena back to where she is supposed to be.

In the end Saga was defeated by Athena and her Bronze Saints, and because of Athena's shields powers the light of the shields was able to remove the evil soul from Saga's body. Saga regained his gentle self and knowing that he caused alot of troubles for Athena and sanctuary he killed himself infront of her asking to be forgiven by Athena.

Saga was revived by Hades, Emperor Of the Underoworld so he can use them against Athena herself. Hades made a deal with Saga and the others that if they will kill Athena he will grant them eternal life. Saga and his companions agreed to Saga's rules and were given Surplices proving they have became Hades' Specters (Hades' Warriors) Saga pretending to be with Hades caused him to be fighting his own friends and brothers in arm, the Gold Saints. Enduring such pain and suffering he never gave up, his goal was to help the revived Pope Shion to accomplish his mission and that was to revive Athena's Cloth. Saga and the others needed to act as if they were his servents so they can fool the specters who were following them but in reality they were fighting so hard for the sake of their beloved goddess, Athena. Saga finally succeeded achiving his true motivations were died after the time has finished and he died standing then turned to dust.

In death Saga was still loyal to Athena, so when his soul was sent to the Underworld he regained his powers and cosmo and he used his powers even though he don't have a physical body anymore to help the young Bronze Saints and his companions to accomplish their job. It's to win against Athena's greatest enemy, Hades. Saga being of the Gold Saints who were fighting alongside Athena even after their death were received the banished seal. The gods knowing they have defied the supreme beings wanted to punish the Gold Saints for their crime to bare their fists against them, so they have sealed the Gold Saints' souls and still Saga and the others knowing they are no more alive, they don't have their bodies, he had no control over his soul anymore, still were loyal to Athena. Proving that, there were saints with their bodies destroyed , even if they were to bring down the wrath of gods upon themselves, they won't hesitate for Athena, even dead their souls are with Athena, even trapped in eternal suffering , their will wont falter, even of their souls must be sealed away they were sure there will be saints who will inherit this will. They will be the prove for the world that in this era there were saints like Saga, who didn't fear the gods.


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SPECIAL TECHNIQUES

Galaxian Explosion
The ultimate technique of Gemini Saga. Saga burn his cosmos to it's max and with this attack he can destroy objects be it physical or non-physical, he can destroy souls with and he can also destroy illusions. This attack was said to have a force of exploding galaxy it means the power of this attack will be like exploding galaxy. Saga can use this attack in many poses, he can catch the opponents and use the attack without moving his hand.

Another Dimension
This attack allows Gemini Saga to cut space-time and twist them, he can send his opponent to a different dimension/world and if the dimension was closed there is no hope to return to the real world instead he will be swimming in the endless sea of stars and planets. With this attack Saga can send the souls also to another dimension he can also consume projectiles and and energy balls or anything similar to that.

GenrouMaouKen
The Demon Emperor Fist, this attack only the Pope of the sanctuary can use it, Saga being able to use the attack means he reached the level of the Grand Pope, the strongest saint among Athena's Saints. This attack enables Saga to control his opponent the way he like, and if the opponent was hit by it he will not regain their senses unless they kill someone. Usin this attack allows Saga to hit the brain of the opponents and destroy the nervous system and paralyzing the opponent body.



SPECIAL ITEMS

Golden Dagger
This divine dagger was given to him by Cronos, the father of Zeus to kill Athena. This dagger have special powers and using it Saga can even kill the gods and thats why he was named the killer of the gods.


Gold Cloth
The strongest cloths among the other cloths of Athena's Saints. The Gold Cloth boost the saint strength, speed, durability and defense dramatically. With the cloth a Saint can survive in the deepest part of the sea and the pressure will not affect the cloth at all, with the Gold Cloth a saint can survive in the outer space or other dimensions as well even if it was the end of the universe. The Cloth doesn't lose its power even in Hell/Underworld. It was said that the Gold Cloth was bathed in the sun and has spirits of its own and divine powers from Athena herself.

Id
12-27-2005, 10:06 PM
Here is the rest.. Thanks to Saga for going in depth of the Character. (Even thou I had already posted about Saga.)


ABILITIES

7th Sense
One cannot gain the 7th sense by training or burnning his spirite or increasing his Ki or whatever, one cannot get that sense by emotions.The 7th sense grant various abilities, for example with the seventh sense one can move at the speed of light, one can see the lightning, with the 7th sense even if one lost his eyesight he can see, if he lost hearing he still can hear, if he lost touch he still can feel, if he lost his all 5 sense the 7th sense they can use the senses they have lost. Even if one lost his brain and his 6th sense still with the 7th sense he can think, talk...etc With the 7th sense one can talk to another telepathy, born his cosmos infinitly...etc The 7th senses also allow the owner of the sense to heal himself, it boost the saint power, strength, cosmo, life-energy and the speed as well.

Lightspeed
Saga can move at the speed of light but probably can move faster than the light. Saga being a Gold Saint have the ability to do a 100,000,000 hit per second. Saga when he was a child and without his Gold Cloth or burning his cosmo was able to move at the speed of light.

Senses Removing
Saga have the ability to remove the senses of his opponent, with a simple flash of light the opponent will lose a sense of his 5 senses. Saga being able to hit the opponent at the speed of light will allow him to remove the opponent's 5 sense in second.

Psychic Powers
Saga have some psychic powers, for example he can call his Gold Cloth even if it was far away, he can call his cloth using the teleportion technique, meaning the cloth will appear infront of Saga from nowhere. Saga have the ability to control his cloth at the speed of light. Saga can use his cloth to even use his own attacks such as his light speed attacks or Another Dimension...etc Saga have telepathy, he can talk to people using that telepathy, he can paralyze or stop the movements of the opponent using that kind of power.

Illusions
Saga can create illusions and unrealistic images, he was popular for Gemini's Eternal Maze illusion, even if one have the speed of light he will be running endlessly in the eternal maze of the gemini. On the other hand Saga have the ability to see behind illusions and even destroy them easily without a problem. Saga's illusions allow him to control his own armor, meaning if the armor was attacked he will not be effected instead the opponents attacks will go through his body, yet he can attack using the illusion.

Others
Saga have many other abilities, for example he have the ability to hide his own life-energy/spirite/ki/cosmo or whatever so even if people have 7th sense will not find Saga. Saga have the ability to locate character even if they were hiding their cosmo or life-energy. He can send projectiles that follow the opponent wherever he is and it will follow the opponent until it hit him. Saga can control his own soul for example even after his death he was able to burn his cosmo and use that cosmo to aid his companions. Saga's great cosmo allows him to form a invinsible barrier which means if a saint or enemy try to attack Saga the attack will be stopped before even touching Saga and that's because of his great cosmo. Saga can repel opponent's attacks for example if he was attacked by a specific attack this attack will be returned back to the opponent himself. Saga can see the future by reading the stars and he have some other abilities...

Ok I will stop here I will try to modify when I have the time. Please I really wish if you guys can help me in this Power Directory because it will be useful, you can copy from the other sites if you wish but please write the sources. and please try to write about characters from official sources, for example you don't have the right to say Spider Man can move at the speed of light because in this fan fiction he did so...etc Only official comics, manga, anime, side stories, games, books and novels are allowed. Fan Fiction should be out of this... I am hoping that you like the idea...

Ok I will stop here I will try to modify when I have the time.

Freija
12-27-2005, 10:43 PM
ill wait for Gemini_saga to post he knows SDK as good as me, and i guess he knows Gemini saga serie due to his nick, so ill put my vote whereever he puts his...

Blood Dawn
12-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Where can I find Saint Seiya manga to read online and/or download?

Id
12-27-2005, 11:11 PM
Where can I find Saint Seiya manga to read online and/or download?

I myself cant help with the mangas or Classic epsiodes. I can tell you were to get Saint Seiya Hades Chapter and Inferno Saga.

But if you ask some of the guys in the Saint Seiya FC they would deff know
here is the link. http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=37916

Id
12-27-2005, 11:13 PM
ill wait for Gemini_saga to post he knows SDK as good as me, and i guess he knows Gemini saga serie due to his nick, so ill put my vote whereever he puts his...

Why wait for Gemini_Saga you know he is going to vote for Saga right?:notrust

And you should post in detail a bio of Kyo in the power Directory from the manga since not to many ppl know how strong he really is plus you know alot to.:wink

Freija
12-28-2005, 12:12 AM
Why wait for Gemini_Saga you know he is going to vote for Saga right?:notrust

And you should post in detail a bio of Kyo in the power Directory from the manga since not to many ppl know how strong he really is plus you know alot to.:wink
but but.... so much typing, every thread you make i explain all powerups.... *goes and finds my older posts



edit: chapter 6 vol 2, Kyo defeats a god level Battoujutsu called Hienken, vol 5(i think its vol 5) Kyo cuts down about 10 bullets that comes from around him(they surrounded him) and cuts his enemy down at the blink of an eye, later on in vol 6 or 7, he fights Bikara, who's main weapon is his inhuman speed, this speed is so fast Kyo can't see it at first, Kyo was godspeed, then this guy is about 10-20 times as fast and he was at 50% of his speed, Kyo gets beat around alittle, activate the crimson cross, and defeats his 100% speed by far, later on he trains with muramasa, and later than that he gets Shin red Eyes. no one from Kenshin universe would stand a chance, same with Naruto, Bleach(counting he could see and hit)


ok, at the first vols he's as fast as Kenshin(godlike since he beat an almost godlike person in speed by much meaning he's godlike if not already above) then in vol 8 its like Kyo is standing still vs Bikara at what, 20 %, then Kyo defeats his 100% speed by far, then he gets even better vs Nobunaga, then he trains with Muramasa and gains even more speed (at this point he's well, even 2 of the Shiseiten had problems seeing what he did to Hotaru), oh yeah i forgot, Bontenmaru(one of the 4 emperors) rips people apart with his hands, or hit their limbs off with a wooden sword, and later he says Kyo is stronger than him......


and then vol 16, Kyo vs Hotaru, Kyo activates his red cross on the back, the crimson cross gives him more strength and such,
so his speed and strength levels up again, then it stays the same more or less for awhile, well, the angrier he gets the stronger he gets (as it seems atleast) then at vol 28 he gets into his real body for awhile and pwns Nobunaga, now at this point Nobu was so strong and fast he took both Byakko and Suzaku at the same time and laughed about it

, and he was incredibly fast also, but Kyo in his real body owned Nobunaga, even using suzaku on nobunaga at this point was overkill, then later on vs Hishigi and Fubuki he activates his true red eyes, at this point he's about 100-1000 times faster than Kenshin and alucard, and his strength is the same, im not kidding >,>, and now he's back in his own body, with true red eyes.


i summed it up as much as i could, hope you understood anything of that, im in a real rush so i wrote it up pretty fast.

Id
12-28-2005, 12:26 AM
but but.... so much typing, every thread you make i explain all powerups.... *goes and finds my older posts



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Yeah but I think you would do a good job at it. A vary infomative for the Battledome plus Its an open spot. No one has posted Mibu Kyo yet.

DarkLordDragon
12-28-2005, 08:17 AM
Yeah it comes down to these two.............
(Ok I promise this will be my last match up involving Saint Seiya and Samurai Deeper Kyo for a while .............. but still give it chance )

Ok both characters are cool and they are in my favorites, but again this is not a fair battle, not at all... Saga vs Kyo? your not serious about this battle? no hard feelings but there is no way you can compare the two...

ill wait for Gemini_saga to post he knows SDK as good as me, and i guess he knows Gemini saga serie due to his nick, so ill put my vote whereever he puts his...

I know Kyo very well and he is one of my favorite main characters of anime/manga the guy is just too cool... While Saga is from Saint Seiya and probably one of the strongest of the Gold Saints he is way above Kyo's level...

Why wait for Gemini_Saga you know he is going to vote for Saga right?

lol but I vote for Saga because there are reasons for my vote and yeah in this fight I vote for Gemini Saga and let me tell you why...

Kyo's powers based on his techniques, Kyo is fast but how fast is he? Mach 1 (Speed of sound) lets assume Biakara is Mach 3, Kyo then became insanly fast and he became Mach 5, after the incident with Mibus he reached Mach 8 and after he activated the Shin Red Eyes he reached Mach 10... With his original body he will reach Mach 15? so what??? fighting for the feelings and using 100% of his brain powers maybe he will reach mach 20! so what? you know Saga is way faster than that, well he will see Kyo's movement in a slow motion, the bastard can move faster than the light! you know what that means?

Kyo can use his Suzako, Mizuchi...etc but do you even think it can cut a legendary Gold Cloth that has powers of Athena and the sun? even if he was able do you think Saga will be standing there waiting for Kyo to cut him. Lets assume Kyo used the Suzako or Seriyu, first of all Saga will be able to dodge the two attacks or stop them using his cosmos, you already saw how Kyoshiro stopped the 4 summons attack... Seiya wasnt able to reach Saga because of his great cosmo and the guy can reflect projectiles and things like that

If Kyo used the Genbu the absolute defense, Saga wouldn't need to break the Genbu, he can just send the other side to Another Dimension... Kyo can't espcape the Another Dimension. Kyo can't fight without his senses and heck can he withstand Saga's fists? What happens if Saga by mistake used his Galaxian Explosion? Kyo is no more...

Believe me even cosmic characters would face trouble fighting Gemini Saga. The guy have a golden dagger that have the power to kill gods... I know you would say Kyo have the capability of defeating the Mibus but what are the Mibus infront of Athena, Cronos...etc

Saga can hit the soul using the Galaxian Explosion, and since Saga is equal or slightly stronger than Kanon he can overcome death....

Saga's Golden Dagger (http://site.voila.fr/ortkweb2/8couv.jpg) <<< I know it looks more like a sword in that picture...

http://ssdatabase3.free.fr/saga_kanon/Saga7.gif

Tokito
12-28-2005, 08:33 AM
Thx for the info Id ^^ Would be kind of hard to write such infos about Kyo. Only 1 Chara-book out, still ongoing and a huge translation gap between volume 15 -~33

edit: I am sure Aka-chan could beat the crap out of the greek gods :P

DarkLordDragon
12-28-2005, 08:42 AM
edit: I am sure Aka-chan could beat the crap out of the greek gods :P

That's impossible for Aka-Chan I know Aka-chan uses a miko to save his heart but the guy have soul/senses...etc even if he is immortal he will be defeated. Wait a minute they can just send him to another world/another dimension and he is no more, I dont think he can return from abyss and places like that.

By the way even Death Mask was able to locate a pryer of Shun-Rei/little girl even though he was in Greece and the Girl in China, he located the source of the prayer, do you really believe Saga wont be able to locate Aka-chan's heart? Saga going to starhill can read the stars and see the future.

Tokito
12-28-2005, 08:53 AM
k ;_;

Saint Seiya-power-lvl > SDK-power-lvl there goes my vote ^^

Rice Ball
12-28-2005, 09:05 AM
Since Saga looks like a Girl i vote for Kyo just to wind Gemini Saga up :)

(Finished reading all that Thanos junk yet?)

Id
12-28-2005, 11:16 AM
Ok both characters are cool and they are in my favorites, but again this is not a fair battle, not at all... Saga vs Kyo? your not serious about this battle? no hard feelings but there is no way you can compare the two...



I know Kyo very well and he is one of my favorite main characters of anime/manga the guy is just too cool... While Saga is from Saint Seiya and probably one of the strongest of the Gold Saints he is way above Kyo's level...



lol but I vote for Saga because there are reasons for my vote and yeah in this fight I vote for Gemini Saga and let me tell you why...

Kyo's powers based on his techniques, Kyo is fast but how fast is he? Mach 1 (Speed of sound) lets assume Biakara is Mach 3, Kyo then became insanly fast and he became Mach 5, after the incident with Mibus he reached Mach 8 and after he activated the Shin Red Eyes he reached Mach 10... With his original body he will reach Mach 15? so what??? fighting for the feelings and using 100% of his brain powers maybe he will reach mach 20! so what? you know Saga is way faster than that, well he will see Kyo's movement in a slow motion, the bastard can move faster than the light! you know what that means?

Kyo can use his Suzako, Mizuchi...etc but do you even think it can cut a legendary Gold Cloth that has powers of Athena and the sun? even if he was able do you think Saga will be standing there waiting for Kyo to cut him. Lets assume Kyo used the Suzako or Seriyu, first of all Saga will be able to dodge the two attacks or stop them using his cosmos, you already saw how Kyoshiro stopped the 4 summons attack... Seiya wasnt able to reach Saga because of his great cosmo and the guy can reflect projectiles and things like that

If Kyo used the Genbu the absolute defense, Saga wouldn't need to break the Genbu, he can just send the other side to Another Dimension... Kyo can't espcape the Another Dimension. Kyo can't fight without his senses and heck can he withstand Saga's fists? What happens if Saga by mistake used his Galaxian Explosion? Kyo is no more...

Believe me even cosmic characters would face trouble fighting Gemini Saga. The guy have a golden dagger that have the power to kill gods... I know you would say Kyo have the capability of defeating the Mibus but what are the Mibus infront of Athena, Cronos...etc

Saga can hit the soul using the Galaxian Explosion, and since Saga is equal or slightly stronger than Kanon he can overcome death....

Saga's Golden Dagger (http://site.voila.fr/ortkweb2/8couv.jpg) <<< I know it looks more like a sword in that picture...

http://ssdatabase3.free.fr/saga_kanon/Saga7.gif



I dont belive its a huge mismatch.

Ok I found them plus some more feats in case you are wondering how fast he is.









And Strenght: feats thanks to Tokito.
http://www.rushed.de/files/usergalleries/p268097.jpg
http://www.rushed.de/files/usergalleries/p268098.jpg

Id
12-28-2005, 11:17 AM
Ok I found them plus some more feats in case you are wondering how fast he is.

Quote:
QuateTokito
Hishigi one of the Taishiros moves his sword with the speed of light and still can't hit Kyo with his true red eyes on .

Quote:
Quate Gemini_Saga
Kyo was able to blitzspeed someone the eyes couldn't follow with his 80% speed (Biakara) sorry guys but Kyo takes this

Quote:
Quate Uchiha_Itachi_
chapter 6 vol 2, Kyo defeats a god level Battoujutsu called Hienken, vol 5(i think its vol 5) Kyo cuts down about 10 bullets that comes from around him(they surrounded him) and cuts his enemy down at the blink of an eye, later on in vol 6 or 7, he fights Bikara, who's main weapon is his inhuman speed, this speed is so fast Kyo can't see it at first, Kyo was godspeed, then this guy is about 10-20 times as fast and he was at 50% of his speed, Kyo gets beat around alittle, activate the crimson cross, and defeats his 100% speed by far, later on he trains with muramasa, and later than that he gets Shin red Eyes. no one from Kenshin universe would stand a chance, same with Naruto, Bleach(counting he could see and hit)


And on top of the speed claims I will sanction this match to allow anime feats as well to fill in the gaps.

So if Saga uses another demension Kyo can slash open a portal and escape, or if possible slash Saga into another demension himslef:nuts

DarkLordDragon
12-28-2005, 12:42 PM
k ;_;

Saint Seiya-power-lvl > SDK-power-lvl there goes my vote ^^

Sorry for that but it's true, even an average Bronze Saint can move at the speed of sound which is most likely the speed of Kenshin... There are some of the silvers who can move Mach 5 and more, the Gold Saints are even more and Saga is one of the most broken characters in Saint Seiya...

Since Saga looks like a Girl i vote for Kyo just to wind Gemini Saga up

(Finished reading all that Thanos junk yet?)

Your the last one who shouldn't dump Saga for his girlish's looks, for you Bubble using a girl avatar, oh god whenever I see that avatar I feel your girl :D Now don't dare and reply to tell me your gurl, hear me...

As for Thanos junk you can guess not showing up in the forums there are reasons for that and one of the reasons are I've been busy reading comic and reading Thanos' stories... Man I loved all the stories and I am currently reading "Thanos" chapter 2, the Infinity Abyss was the worst story of the Infinity Saga... I also realized that Thanos with the heart of the universe is the strongest comic/anime/manga character for him he is equal to the one above all/Presence and the rest. Oh god if I started talking about Thanos I am afraid I will change the topic's subject so meanie don't ask me these kind of questions here with Saga's presence because there is no way I will change my favorite, now die with your angers :P

I dont belive its a huge mismatch.

When there is a mistake don't go on defending it, it's not a problem when you do something wrong, the problem is you stay still do the wrong thing... Lol

Ok I found them plus some more feats in case you are wondering how fast he

Ok let me see

Hishigi one of the Taishiros moves his sword with the speed of light and still can't hit Kyo with his true red eyes on .

I've been reading Kyo's manga and get directly the answers from the translater, he is mu buddy but never heard of such a thing? You mean Hishigi the wielder of the "Moon Night" sword? I think you mean he can turn the people into stones and if one turned to stone even Akira's swords play will be like the speed of light...

Kyo was able to blitzspeed someone the eyes couldn't follow with his 80% speed (Biakara) sorry guys but Kyo takes this

Ok that's fast for Kyo's universe, but what do you think is the speed of Biakara?? even if he is 50 times the speed of sound which not, he will be slow as turtle compared to Saga!

chapter 6 vol 2, Kyo defeats a god level Battoujutsu called Hienken, vol 5(i think its vol 5) Kyo cuts down about 10 bullets that comes from around him(they surrounded him)

Seiya with the sound speed were able to catch 25 bullets or more with ease. Seiya in the next episodes was like a turtle against Aioria who is slighty slower than Gemini Saga.

no one from Kenshin universe would stand a chance, same with Naruto, Bleach(counting he could see and hit)

Sorry but your really understimating Gemini Saga... I know you have a grudge against Saga after his battle with Id :D but c'mon it's not fair to compare his speed with that of Kenshin and the others... Sorry dude but if Saga fight Kenshin's whole cast he will still win...

will sanction this match to allow anime feats as well to fill in the gaps.

Now thats a good move for him he can be stronger, I think its better if you give him the chance to absorb all of the legendary Muramasas because with that he can cut space or dimension and open a new dimension in the future, similar to Saga's Another Dimension...

still... Do you believe Kyo can stand in par with Saga? c'mon man Saga will send him to an endless space and he will be swiminn in the sea of stars where he will last there for 30 minutes and then will die for not being able to breath and if he was able to return to the reality by cutting the space, how in the hell he can locate Saga's presence when the later can hide his cosmo/spirites/life-energy Saga can usely hide his presence and send the attack he used against Kanon which is like Kyo's Golden Wind...

See this:

http://ssdatabase3.free.fr/saga_kanon/Saga13.gif

lets assume Kyo will be able to do something about all the attacks Saga will use but wise up how in the blue hell Kyo would be able to withstand the force of the Galaxian Explosion, Kyo is a normal human I am sure 1 Atomic Bomb's force is enough to kill him, what if Saga's used the Galaxian Explosion...

Wait How can he still fight without his senses, you know Saga can still fight even if he lost all the 5 senses... You understand what that's mean? in the end of Saga's story even after his death he was able to control his powers and supported Athena by giving some of his powers, ending up to be punished by the gods, the Banishing Seal! he was [SEALED]

I love Kyo, and I live SDK's characters specially Hishigi, Fubuki, Kyo, Yukimura and Hotaru, I've been fan of the manga for more than 3 years and believe me no one in this forums like Kyo as much as I do, maybe Uchiha Itachi but I doubt so :laugh and I am in chapter 292 and still couldn't find anything that will make this fight fair...

Tokito
12-28-2005, 04:20 PM
Chapter 271 page 15:

http://www.rushed.de/files/usergalleries/p270114.jpg

Id
12-28-2005, 06:18 PM
Tokito you are the man!

The speed gap between SS and SDK is clossed.

Lets move on the next of the debate.
Power
Techniques
Etc..

DarkLordDragon
12-29-2005, 04:32 AM
Tokito you are the man!

Hey hey don't believe what you see, if your looking for evidence you should look it for yourself...

Now let me put everything clear! first of all Tokito where in the hell you get this scan from???? I am sorry to say this but the guy who translated that chapter didn't know how to trasnlate and he missed up the whole translation...

Now look whats the real and correct translation:


Julian (Yuan's father, the guy with the hat) : <Thinking> I really made an astounding sword for an astounding swordsman…
Julian: Looks like you really have the hang of using that blade Hishigi… A night without darkness, the lighting blade “White Night”.
Hishigi: Please do not interfere while I get rid of my useless captain of my personal bodyguards…
Akari: You idiot! Life Drain!

Now where in the hell Akari got the attack Air Vamp! Akamine never ever said the guy have this attack, this attack name is Life Drain.


The speed gap between SS and SDK is clossed.

No way! even if Hishigi have but no way in hell Kyo can block millions of fists per second!!

Lets move on the next of the debate.
Power
Techniques
Etc..

Are you really serious???????