Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[Nøøps]

Velcro! :awesome:gun

[Jove]

Btw my favorite quote in avatar is when katara comments on sokkas "warrior's wolf tail"
Katara: "It also lets the other warriors know that your fun and perky!"

And wouldn't you know it, we get to that episode today! tomorrow!
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17.

Lake Laogai

If Book 1 was the closest to a traditional anime color scheme, and Book 3 was full of bold, stunning colors, then the latter portion of Book 2 was an ungodly level of tenebrous. Catacombs, caves, underground indoctrination prisons, evildoers private lairs… there was so much in Ba Sing Se was lit by a faint green nebulous light, emitted from those unique Earth Kingdom crystals. It was pretty cool as an effect; the Earth Kingdom's trademark city awash in a green hue. And the apex of this murkiness is found in Lake Laogai, with so much of the action taking place either at night or in a subterranean setting. Just about everything works; Jet’s brainwashed confusion, Zuko’s panicked desire to capture Aang spontaneously reemerging, Long Feng’s calculated insidiousness… everything. The only way you could watch this chapter and feel even the most inchoate tinge of disappointment is if it’s the first airing and the creators have hyped the fight scene as the best in the series. For instance, the scenario that actually happened in real life. Of course, the chapter is also infamous for Jet’s death, which is very much unambiguous and terrified Nickelodeon so much that it obviously affected the liberties granted for Book 3. This chapter also foreshadows Zuko’s upcoming internal strife, as well as his failure to choose Good, with the fantastic symbolism of the Blue Spirit mask sinking into the lake, representing his detached identity. And finally, it was so goddamn exhilarating to see Appa appear from out of the Sun, and it still is. As far as plot goes, and movement, Lake Laogai has to stand as one of the more propulsive and busy shows in the series, hardly ever slowing down, and even when it does, it’s for something like the scene where the Gaang interrogate Jet, which itself was remarkable for it’s tension (as well as it’s blitzkrieg collage in Jet’s mind). The one detracting element is the addition of Toph’s lie-detecting ability, which was NOT welcome. And the presentation of it was, “Hey, I can do this. I’m going to be doing this from now on.” It’s as bad as blood bending... :notrust

16.

The Avatar State

I can see why some overlook this chapter. As a season premiere, it’s a peculiar entrant until it’s climax. Whereas The Awakening tried too hard to be a cataclysmic, propulsive archetype season opener, The Avatar State seems almost too content with it’s normalcy. For most of the chapter, it’s an often silly attempt by the overzealous General Fong to find a way to bring out Aang’s power. And while the struggle over the morality of such a thing is a welcome plot point, it is a pretty basic premise. It’s possible The Avatar State could have been affixed with that repulsive “filler” misnomer. That is, if it weren’t for the chapter’s dramatic sequence with Roku explaining the Avatar State to Aang, which stands as one of the most phantasmagorical and stunning images in the show. However, it is the b-story, and it's climactic sequence. that puts this chapter into the top 1/3rd, wherein Azula’s treachery nearly leads to Zuko’s demise, and concludes with Iroh and Zuko’s official banishment. The closing scene of the chapter, where the two kneel by a creek and cut off their topknots, is one of the more dolorous and powerful scenes the show produced, their stoic silence producing unspeakable tension and empathy.

15.

Siege of the North, Part 1

Even though this is technically the first part of the Book 1 Finale, it’s difficult not to view this as the middle portion of the Northern Water Tribe Trilogy, bookended by The Waterbending Master and Siege of the North, Part 2. For one thing, there’s very little exposition. There’s build-up in the preceding hours before the battle, and character relationships are more firmly entrenched in order to pay off in the climax, but beyond that, all the establishment took place in The Waterbending Master. So what we’re left with is a bridge chapter, setting up the tasks and struggles of the culminating chapters and doing a proper job of foreshadowing. That does not mean it’s not an exceptional chapter itself, as the ranking would imply. Zuko’s infiltration into the Northern Water Tribe is one of the most thrilling asides you’ll see, and a terrific presentation of his ingenuity and perseverance. Meanwhile Aang continues to struggle with his Avatar duties, and his retort to Yue’s incessant whining of, “I’m just one kid,” is possibly the most poignant and meaningful lines in the series. It basically summarizes all of Book 1. We also see Sokka and Yue develop and implode and then rekindle, a lesson in bending theory through Zuko and Katara, and two of the most augustly ominous shots in the show: the moment when the “black snow” begins to fall, and the sunrise before the resumption of the battle. This chapter did exactly what it needed to do: embellish The Waterbending Master and set the positioning for Siege of the North, Part 2. But really, the chapter stands on it’s own quite well.

14.

The Guru

Akin to how I rate The Swamp higher than I presume the consensus ranking would be, I go even further for The Guru. As I’ve noted, I absolutely adore episodes that have a dreamlike quality, with likeminded scenes sequences. The Guru is the zenith of these kinds of chapters. On paper, this chapter is practically an illustrated lecture on the chakras, simplified to an 8-year old's understanding. And Bowdlerized too; notice they never revealed the location of the Water Chakra. *ahem* However, it is in no way a soporific exercise; the smash cuts and breakneck collages, with concomitant sound design by the Track Team, is stunning and evocative . The diverse use of color schemes and scenery for each Chakra gives each scene it’s own distinctive mood, culminating in the transcendent, otherworldly Thought Chakra scene. The highlight, though, is the Heart Chakra scene, which contains one of the most popular Track Team underscores, and some of the most exquisite, resplendent animation in the series. The way the clouds swirl to form the Air Nomads, dissipate and then reform into Katara’s visage is one of the most break taking and affecting sequences in Avatar. It’s so overwhelming. Equally powerful is the scene reuniting Sokka and Hakoda, whom we finally meet in this chapter. But this chapter is the first half of the Book 2 Finale, and so is the archetype Avatar set-up chapter: cerebral and grippingly expository, shadowed by Azula’s incipient coup de etat.

I’d also like to explain why the introduction in the episode of metal bending is awesome, compared to the repugnant lie detetction ability. In Lake Laogai, Toph’s display of lie detection serves the plot, but is not supported by it. She simply reveals this ability. In The Guru, her acquired ability to bend metal is learned, and presented alongside Guru Pathik’s wisdom. In fact, it is directly related to his words, and acts as a transition between the scenes. This is one of my favorite segues in the show, and connects Toph’s struggle with Aang’s.

13.

Avatar Roku (Winter Solstice, Part 2)

It’s sort of odd that a show known for breathtaking and worthwhile two-Chapter hour-long specials, perhaps the most exquisite two-parter was in fact broken up over two weeks. Which is kind of unfortunate, since the two episodes almost seem adverse to avulsion; they exist to be linked together. But Avatar Roku has to be one of the most well-thought and produced episodes of the series. Think of a scene such as when Aang and Zuko both run Zhao’s blockade… that’s a stunning scene, and yet it’s a climax of the first act. It would take a monstrously sublime and powerful peak to stand up to that, and this Chapter contains one of the most riveting scenes in the show, with Roku’s practically omnipotent dispatching of Aang’s tormentors. It’s one that still leaves me engulfed in warm sentiment and adrenaline, and overwhelmingly emotional. Obviously, we are introduced to Roku in this episode, who would serve as Aang's spiritual mentor throughout the series and, and we are also introduced to the concept of Sozin’s Comet, which would be the culmination of the show itself. But as I noted, the structure of the episode is pretty cool; a sumptuous exploration of Roku’s temple in the second act is bookended by two extremely volatile acts: the blockade and Roku's appearance. For most shows, this would be a clear top 5 episode.

[Nøøps]

I have an idea for something new to occupy us after this, you should list the top 20 characters :)
20 seems about good, you oculd go more or less, mabye a top 10 ^^

[Jove]

I have an idea for something new to occupy us after this, you should list the top 20 characters :)
20 seems about good, you oculd go more or less, mabye a top 10 ^^

Mmmm... not bad. That's a list i could really sink my teeth into. :X3

[Koi]

You should include a sublist of 'Top 5 Charcters with Facial Hair.'

[Nøøps]

Top 4 spots would be Wang Fiyah and the 5th would be haru!
But number 1 of awesome obscure characters is...
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7016/melonlordtextfullca9.gif

[Jove]

This post, having taken the sobriquet of The Post, is passionately dedicated to The Girlfriend, Laura. Laura's a magnetic presence, full of life, and vigor, a shrewd intellect, and the most worthwhile person you could ever meet. And she tolerates a nuisance boyfriend that makes 12,000 word posts. How cool can one person be? Tell her: http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=15970

12.

The Chase

You'll need a replacement adrenal medulla after watching this Chapter, with all the adrenaline it foments. Slowing down about as often as a Supergrass album, this Chapter is almost the epitome of propulsion, relentlessly moving forward and building momentum. Even when they slow down, it’s only to have the Gaang argue amongst one another, or to have a random and unexpected tea party between two adored characters, Toph and Iroh. The show was ostensibly about the Gaang attempting to get sleep and being interrupted each time, constantly moving, and in this manner the characters mimic the feelings of the viewer, never given a rest until the final frame. Specifically, this chapter established tension between Toph and Katara, and is a great example of the realism in Avatar’s writing. Most show’s would have made the addition of a new character seamless, especially when the character ran away from home to join the protagonists; Avatar presents a true struggle, replete with strife and blowouts. It also contains one of the most riveting, intense fight in the series to this point: the Mexican Standoff between Azula, Zuko, and Aang. For one thing, Zuko’s sudden arrival is one of the more squee-worthy moments in the show, and the use of the abandoned town is creative, and exquisitely drawn. And it presents us with our first taste of Zuko fighting alongside the Gaang, which was glorious at the time. Conceptually, this is a very complex chapter, and the pacing is challenging, and so it’s triumph is one of the greatest in the show.

11.

Sozin’s Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters

It was frightfully difficult to keep this Chapter out of the top ten. There's an anxiety whenever a milestone is reached anyway; at this point, a Chapter is either a top ten Chapter or it’s relegated to second-class status. But as far as favorites go, this is my favorite Chapter of Sozin’s Comet. Because Sozin’s Comet was originally intended to be a three-Chapter finale, the addition of an additional 24 minutes allowed for a lot of breathing room, and allowed them quite a bit of creative license regarding the pacing of the show. And so, Sozin’s Comet really functions more like an enhanced two-Chapter special, like two hour long Chapters with mini-climaxes within the halves. The first two Chapters follow the typical Avatar formula of a serene, thoughtful opening half, and this culminates in The Old Masters. But, as it turns out, the Old Masters are not merely the Order of the White Lotus, whom are finally revealed, but the four previous Avatars. Their advice to Aang, and Aang’s subsequent discovery of the Lion Turtle, is pleasing, but obviously the White Lotus steal the show, as does the touchingly melodramatic reconciliation between Iroh and Zuko, a highlight of the series. And in the strange position as the 2nd Chapter of 4, it does what it needs to do: resolve the initial, supporting dilemma (Aang’s anguish over committing murder) and set the stage for the final battle.

10.

Sokka’s Master

The discomfort over keeping Sozin’s Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters out of the Top Ten is caused and placated by this Chapter. I just could not find any feasible way not to present Sokka’s Master as a Top Ten Chapter. Book 3 was in a very dangerous situation after The Painted Lady. That was the third Chapter in a row, to begin the Book, that could be considered merely adequate. But Sokka’s Master reminds us why this is the best show in the history of shows, and why Sokka himself is the most satisfying character arc in the series. It’s amusing that no one derides this episode as “filler,” even though it only tangentially has connection to the plot. It’s a character study of Sokka, and pretty much Sokka alone, to the point that there are scenes humorously pointing out the inactivity of the rest of the Gaang in the Chapter. It is a charming tale of Sokka’s humble appeal, and a testament to individuality. And it certainly doesn’t hurt that Piandao is a very explicit homage to Sifu Kisu. The b-story is pretty awesome, too, with Iroh’s trickery in order to disguise his hotness and his buffness. But what really puts this Chapter into the top ten is the very shrewd scene in which Sokka receives the White Lotus tile and we see the symbol on Piandao’s doors. It’s pretty great because not only does it foreshadow Piandao’s connection to the Order, it also makes the viewer even more curious about Iroh’s involvement in the Order, considering his sub-story was so prominent in the this Chapter that it‘s impossible not to connect the two.

9.

The Blue Spirit

Generally, Avatar kept episodes with very close ties cleaved to one another, as double-Chapters. This is the only instance, besides maybe Lake Laogai and The Earth King, where two separately aired episodes are so firmly dependent upon one another. And so I rank this episode, as The Storm, largely in relation to one another as if they had aired together. It’s hard to remember sometimes that this episode has a very goofy underlying premise: that Aang has to find frogs that are frozen in mud, and give them to Katara and Sokka to suck on in order to cure the illness they both contracted during The Storm. It’s hard to remember because the Blue Spirit is a remarkably lush episode, and plays out like some sort of political thriller, with Zhao successfully plotting Aang's capture, and Zuko‘s daring rescue. The scheming Zhao, taking command of the Yu Yen Archers the instant he is promoted, is so fantastic and acted perfectly. And the subsequent capture of Aang by the Archers is a captivating scene, with one of the most sensational Track Team pieces in the series. It truly is unfortunate that the Yu Yan Archers entire presence in Avatar is within this Chapter. But The Blue Spirit plays a vitally crucial role in the overall arc of the show, which in many ways is dependent on relationship between Aang and Zuko. We are given massive foreshadowing, as Aang openly postulates a friendship between the two, and Zuko later turning his back on the Fire Nation emblem in the closing moments.

8.

The Storm

At this point in the show, it was already firmly established that Zuko was a vulnerable antagonist. For one thing, we knew that Zhao was a more powerful threat, but we also knew that Zuko had an admirable passion for loyalty, and would choose to do what’s right even if it meant foregoing his quest to capture the Avatar. And there had already been episodes where Zuko’s b-story was a parallel to Aang’s a-story. But it was never more prominent than in this episode, where we are treated to the two lingering questions at the genesis of the series: why did Aang disappear for 100 years, and why is Zuko a banished Prince? The stories themselves are equally heartbreaking and informative, but it’s Avatar’s typical artistry in the use of flashbacks that elevates this episode to iconic status. Besides The Avatar and the Fire Lord, Avatar used flashbacks properly: to reflect upon the current action. And so in the face of calamity during a violent storm, Aang and Zuko’s past calamities provide insight. And their choices are telling: Aang foregoes his past and embraces his role as a savior and protector, while Zuko dheres to HONOR!!!able spirit of his mistakes and also saves someone in danger. Essentially, that Aang’s past troubles were self-inflicted, whereas Zuko’s troubles were inflicted upon him. But in the end, The Storm proved that they were both essentially good at their core.

7.

Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno

This was a hard one to rank, considering that Part 3 and Part 4 of Sozin’s Comet were essentially one episode that was expanded into two. In this case, I decided to rank the action Chapter behind the epilogue, though the difference is negligible. But goddamn, does this episode move. This might as well by a TTGL episode, there’s so much action. At this point in Sozin’s Comet, the sequencing is paramount, and it is to the credit of Mike, Bryan, Dos Santos, and everyone that worked on the show that this episode is such a monumental success, because the balance of the stories is exceptional. All of them are effectively presented and sequenced: Aang’s phenomenal battle with Ozai, storyboarded by Konietzko himself; Sokka, Toph, and Suki’s aerial bedlam, destroying Fire Nation Warships in support of Aang; The Order of the White Lotus’ thrilling siege of Ba Sing Se; and the Agni Kai between Zuko, supported by Katara, and Azula. And it is Azula who truly steals the episode. Her mental breakdown takes place almost entirely within this episode, and culminates with the famous Ursa Scene. Special note must also be placed for the Track Team’s score. They were allotted a string section for Sozin’s Comet, and their score is spot on. It’s tense, foreboding, and evocative. It’s like a movie score, especially during the transitions, and Aang and Ozai’s battle. But the real masterpiece is The Last Agni Kai, the music underneath Zuko and Azula’s battle. It’s purposely slow and, in a brilliant move, presented high in the mix. It takes what would normal be a bittersweet battle and makes it absolutely gut wrenching.

[Mider T]

I'm not interrupting am I?:awesome

[Nimander]

Dammit, Jove, why can't my reviews be as good as yours?:cry

But I agree completely with your synopsis of the Agni Kai between Azula and Zuko. To me, it was even better than the battle between Aang and the Firelord, because of the emotions involved. Like you said, the music carried the fight. It reminded me obliquely of the music in the battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin in Episode 3 of Star Wars. The score in the movie conveyed a sense of tragedy at the battle taking place, while also conveying the epic struggle that was taking place.

The same can be said for the score during the Agni Kai. There was a floating undercurrent of immense tragedy, while at the same time there was a heart-pounding rhythm that signified the physical struggle between the two. Even more evident was the fact that you didn't hear the sounds of the characters during the fight: rather, the music conveyed the emotions taking place in the battle. To me, that was the high point of the series finale. I absolutely loved it.

[Nøøps]

I'm not interrupting am I?:awesome

TEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!1
:arg:gun

It truly is unfortunate that the Yu Yan Archers entire presence in Avatar is within this Chapter.
This is not true, because one of the rough rhino riders, ... or is it the rough riders ... or the rough rhino's ... anyways, one of the riders was a yu yan archer.

[Jove]

This is not true, because one of the rough rhino riders, ... or is it the rough riders ... or the rough rhino's ... anyways, one of the riders was a yu yan archer.

I figured someone might call me out on that. I had mentioned that but edited it out. Believe it or not, some of these things are edited down. I also kind of felt that Vachir didn't count, even though he clearly was a member at some point.

And yes, I did have to look that up on AvatarWiki.

Very well spoken, 1True. The Agni Kai was in many ways the most important battle, considering that Ozai was so clandestine through most of the series. He was representative of evil, but Azula was an evil character.

[Jove]

As we reach the home stretch of The Post, I must remind everyone that it is all devoted to my lustfully literate girlfriend, Laura. It's hard not to be transfixed by her aplomb, grace, and candor. And it's equally difficult not to be humbled by her patience and support. For instance, she puts up with stuff like this, a omnibus post about a long-dead kid's show. She's pretty goddamn awesome, no? Tell her so: http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=15970

6.

The Drill

It’s very likely that I’m so enamored with this episode due to the main Theme variant that plays during the climactic sequence in which Aang destroys the Drill. A quick glance at my Last.fm page reveals 1,995 Track Team scrobbles, of which 136 are “The Final Blow,” the unofficial name of the piece. It’s as if they couldn’t stand that the Main Theme was so stirring and inspirational; they just had to make it ten times more dramatic. In doing so, they merely matched the intensity of the scene it supported. The Drill was the latter half of The Secret of the Fire Nation special, and the beginning of the latter half of Book 2, which stands as the zenith of the show. And it’s a fitting catalyst for such a run of Chapters, being one of the most amusing, cerebral, exhilarating shows in the series. It’s also a classic example of Avatar’s tendency to force the Gaang into awkward situations, and not give them an easy answer. When you examine it closely, much of the episode is spent trying to figure out how to defeat The Drill, and the solution is arrived at by a process of trial and error and ingenuity. Sokka continues to shine in this regard, as well as being a substantive comedic force. His various nicknames for the Gaang have all become popular in the fandom. But it is Aang that truly stands out, as we are finally given a one-on-one battle, and most delectably it is with Azula, who is by now firmly entrenched as a viable and legitimately threatening antagonist. Their fight is a chaotic and magnificent showcase, fluidly animated and exceptionally choreographed by Kisu. Azula’s moves are insane, and we are given our first glimpse of Aang Earthbending in combat. But it still comes back to the climax for me. Aang decimating the Drill was a well conceived sequence, and that final wide-shot of the Drill, as the music begins to conclude, is awe-inspiring. It also must be mentioned how cool the b-story is, with Jet’s offer to join the Freedom Fighters being rebuked by Zuko, and his subsequent discovery that Iroh and Zuko are Fire Benders. This is the beginning of Jet’s sub-arc, which is the darkest and most tragic in the show. I must also note the final shot of the b-story; the shot of the monorail carrying Iroh, Zuko, the Freedom Fighters, and the couple from The Serpent’s Pass is stunningly beautiful and delicate, with typically evocative music from the Track Team. All in all, I can say this: I rank it 6th, but this IS my favorite episode.

5.

Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang

Possibly the most bittersweet Avatar Chapter in the canon. It’s imbued with poignancy, exult, heartbreak, relief, and triumph. The final scene is probably the hardest scene for me to watch, reflect upon, and write about. It’s a calm, tranquil scene that shows that friendship endures after hardship; it’s funny, with Sokka’s amusing attempt to draw a group portrait of the extended Gaang; and it ends with the controversial but uplifting kiss between Katara and Aang, showing the innate precedence of love. But it leaves me anxious and melancholy as well, because this is the end. There is no more Avatar past this point. We’ll never see the characters again; they cease to exist past this point in our lives. There is fandom, but that’s only so therapeutic; it’s not official. And so, while it’s the most enriching and moving way to end a heroic story, the “poignant ending” also leaves me feeling the emptiest inside. But the reason this block of Sozin’s Comet emerges is not merely because of the climactic aspect of it, but because of how those climaxes are achieved. Azula loses to Katara and Zuko, but the complete mental breakdown she has in the apres leaves both of our heroes stunned, their lamenting faces revealing the sourness of the victory. The White Lotus’ complete victory in Ba Sing Se is culminated with Iroh burning the Fire Nation flag off of the Royal Palace; his anguished face before the act is one of the most touching moments in the entire series. And finally, Aang’s defeat of Ozai, after the grandeur of the swirling-element edifice he constructed around himself, is meaningful and loyal to the show. Aang defeats Ozai in a singular and spiritual fashion, no matter how vociferously people call Spirit Bending a deus ex machina.. The only detracting element of the Chapter is the inclusion of the scene in which Zuko asks Ozai where Ursa is; it is superfluous and frustrating, but cannot tarnish such an exemplary and magnificent ending to one of the greatest television shows ever made.


4.5

Avatar: Secret of the Fire Nation

Until Finale Week, Secret of the Fire Nation was the highest rated Avatar airing, and it’s not hard to assess why. Nick promoted it heavily, and a lot of people ended up watching it. It’s too bad they decided to forsake such a strategy once Book 2 ended. But what we have here is an Avatar special that truly deserved such an audience. The two Chapters, The Serpent’s Pass and the Drill, fit together in a masterful way; The Serpent’s Pass is moody and thoughtful, The Drill is focused and impactful. And really, could we really get to Ba Sing Se, the grandest location of the Avatar World and a place foreshadowed since nearly the beginning of the series, in any other way but a series of chaotic misfortunes and ultimate triumphs? And like most Avatar specials, the first half is more placid and conceptual and often based upon a task. The Serpent’s Pass is really an episode about love. Aang shuts himself off due to his love for Appa and the pain elft after Appa’s disappearance; Sokka likewise shuts himself off from Suki due to the pain of losing Yue. Yet both overcome this, in large part due to the birth of Hope. The second half of an Avatar special is usually driven by suspense and action, and the monolithic presence of the Drill, the Fire Nation’s most ambitious project, is overpowering. But the kids have to find there way as they go, amending their plans numerous times, and, in the end, finding a resounding victory. Secret of the Fire Nation itself stands as
one of Avatar’s finest victories.

4.

Siege of the North, Part 2

Book 1 of Avatar concluded with a rousing resolution, but, being Avatar, it was far from straightforward. In fact, amidst the bedlam of the Fire Nations invasion of the Northern Water Tribe is possibly the strangest sub-plots in Avatar: Koh the Face Stealer. Aang’s mystical journey into the Spirit World (our one and only true visit to it, in fact), and his discourse with Koh, is the most unorthodox and incongruous scene in the show. There are so many classic moments in this episode: Zhao’s manically slaughter of Tui, Moon Spirit; Zuko’s lament to Aang in the cave, which foreshadows Azula tremendously; and, of course, Koizilla. Koizilla gets me every time; it’s the payoff for the entire Book’s focus on Aang’s growth and struggle with his status as the Avatar. Apart from that, this Chapter is the end of Zhao, and it is a fitting and satisfying demise. Zhao was staggeringly charismatic, and there’s something so baronial as he refuses Zuko’s hand at the end. One of the coolest things about the episode is the stylization. When the Moon Spirit is captured, the world becomes awash in a red tinge. When Tui is killed, the world loses all color. It’s striking and sumptuous, and the way color flashes when things are illuminated by the fire bending is practically virtuosic.

3.5

Siege of the North

The first major test for a new show is it’s first season finale. Especially if the show is a serial. More than anything, it has to be memorable, satisfying to the fans, and be loyal to the ethos of the show. The tumult of Siege of the North’s consummation, with Aang going into the Avatar State, is the epitome of such a feat, Of course, Aang merging with the La the Ocean spirit, and forming the giant Koi as a manifestation of La’s wrath, is one of those things that probably baffles outsiders. Why would something so silly on paper produce such overwhelming emotions? Well, because by the time it happens, the viewer is so devastated by Zhao’s villainy and the desperation of the Water Tribe, and the main characters we’d grown to love over the Book, that it all pours out during that scene. We’re mesmerized by Aang’s innate power and we finally get to see good fully prevail in a significantly climactic battle. But it’s not merely Aang that is provided a finale-level presentation: Zuko finally has his definitive battle with Zhao, Katara puts her water bending skills to use to protect Aang from Zuko, and Sokka bravely sets out to fight but instead is provided only heartbreak as Yue fulfills her destiny. Take into account the scene with Koh, Zuko’s frantic underwater infiltration of the Northern Water Tribe, and the cave scenes between Aang and Zuko, and you have a wonderfully paced and diversely written finale. Speaking of the cave scene, it contains Zuko’s lament about being in the shadow of his little sister; that little sister makes an appearance, and in fact the final shot of Book 1 is Azula’s face. And there we have the bridge to Book 2, wherein Azula would take the place of Zhao, and manage to outperform him.

[Taurus Versant]

Only three remaining :uwah

If I thought about it and went looking, I could figure them out, but that would ruin the surprise.

[Jove]

Only three remaining :uwah

If I thought about it and went looking, I could figure them out, but that would ruin the surprise.

I was going to put a list to recap, but keep in mind every single one of these posts push right up to the character limit...

But since you think it would ruin the surprise, I'll refrain from doing it. I can say that there are 3 Chapters left, but 5 entities.

[Manwë Súlimo]

oZSoACDaWC

Therein lie the scrambled abbreviations of the chapters Jove has not yet listed. :LOS

[Noah]

Unsurprisingly, they're all from Book (#)

:quite

[Superstarseven]

I remember all the speculation regarding how Crossroads Of Destiny was going to play out.
Of course every one's conclusion was that Aang was going to win.

There was some backlash actually after it aired. I recall someone who wrote that it was awful and wanted to wash his hands of it. People were really expecting a victory. Love it when everything gets turned on it's ear like that.

[Altron]

lol, i totally forgot about this series when it ended. Dang Jove some nice tl:rd posts:zaru

[Manwë Súlimo]

I remember all the speculation regarding how Crossroads Of Destiny was going to play out.
Of course every one's conclusion was that Aang was going to win.

There was some backlash actually after it aired. I recall someone who wrote that it was awful and wanted to wash his hands of it. People were really expecting a victory. Love it when everything gets turned on it's ear like that.

Someone thought CoD was horrible?!

Shun the non-believer! SHUN!

[Nøøps]

I figured someone might call me out on that. I had mentioned that but edited it out. Believe it or not, some of these things are edited down. I also kind of felt that Vachir didn't count, even though he clearly was a member at some point.

And yes, I did have to look that up on AvatarWiki.

Very well spoken, 1True. The Agni Kai was in many ways the most important battle, considering that Ozai was so clandestine through most of the series. He was representative of evil, but Azula was an evil character.

So that means the evil of book 1 was Zhao, book 2 was Azula, and book 3 was Ozai and azula ^^

P.S. I would so wish that the creators would make us atleast 2 animated avatar movies :( Like mabye a movie which has a premise of azula escaping?

P.P.S. AFTER the last The Post post you needto post a final one that lists the episode names in the order you gave and thats it.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Actually, I think the "means of evil" for each book was:

1. Zuko and Zhao

2. Azula and Long Feng

3. Azula, Ozai, and, to a small extent, Combustion Man

[Jove]

And thank you, Noops and Manwe, for pushing this to the next page. :X3

---------

As we conclude The Post, I am engulfed in sorrow, because this is the last time I am able to declare it's dedication to my incredible, stunning, and sensational girlfriend, Laura. Laura's the greatest thing in my life, an alchemist of emotion turning the baleful to the slublime, transforming anxiety into hope. I'm learning Dutch now, and they have a word for it: stapelverliefd. To be "madly in love." I usually phrase everything with superfluous, redundant, and totally meaningless syllables. But it's pretty simple: Ik ben stapelverliefd. Seriously.

And even though she absolutely pummels me at Minesweeper (and especially at Mijnenveger), she's always caring, cheerful and patient. Patient enough, in fact, to tolerate this list. From it's conception, to the fortnight since I began writing it, and through the grueling posting process, she's always been bemused, and not appalled, by the ridiculousness of it. Can you imagine putting up with this? How awesome is that? Tell her, she deserves to know: http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=15970


3.

Zuko Alone

At the time, when many still considered Zuko to be a secondary character (below Aang, Katara, and Sokka), this was a bold chapter. Devoting an entire chapter to the Honorable Villain, on Nickelodeon, without even a hint of the main cast in the Chapter, reiterated just how refreshing Avatar was. And the framing of the story itself was a welcome bit of pastiche; for a show with clear Eastern influence, a Spaghetti Western motif was quite arresting, especially in the understated, cerebral manner it was written and illustrated. Likewise, it was a classic Book 2 chapter, intertwining itself with several other chapters. The knife featured in The Avatar State is a main focus of the plot, and in the beginning we can see the husband and wife that would reappear in The Serpent’s Pass. But obviously the most impressive aspect of the show is the other framing in the show: skillful use of flashback sequences that reflect upon Zuko’s current labors, and a main reason this chapter is so beloved and revered. Sagacious use of flashback was one of Avatar’s main strengths, and this Chapter is their apex in that regard (even if it did create some timeline issues). Also, this chapter did more for Azula’s character than any other previous Chapters, established Maiko, and presented us with the insufferably enduring question of the disappearance of Zuko’s mother. It's the show that got me hooked.

2.5

The Book 2 Finale

“It’s time.” That was the opening statement in the main commercial for the Book 2 Finale. There were a couple different ones, but that was the first one, and the one that most accurately manifested the distinct tension leading into these Chapters, The Guru and The Crossroads of Destiny. Of course, it also produced a emetic tsunami of Zutaranticipation, but otherwise, it was brilliant. Just those two terse words captured the essence of these Chapters, and the weight of the narrative of Book 2. It was time, time for Aang to master the Avatar State and time for Zuko to decide between the his Fire Nation past and a peaceful future. Underneath all this was the catalyst: Azula’s cunning coup de etat . It inflects everything within these two Chapters, forcing decisions to be made. Of course, the paths to those choices are exceptional: Aang’s Chakras lesson is an inviting and diverse sequence, culminating with the transcendent Cosmic Aang sequence; elsewhere Zuko is ambushed by the Dai Li and must face Katara in the catacombs, leading to near reconciliation. In the end, our two main characters are pushed into deficient choices. Aang leaves his training with Guru Pathik due to Katara’s imprisonment; Zuko is presented with his greatest chance at redemption, but is allured by Azula and chooses to return to the Fire Nation. And, of course, the Aang/Katara v. Azula/Zuko battle is epic. It’s so stunning; Zuko’s unbridled power and Katara’s passion really steal the scene.

2.

City of Walls and Secrets

Avatar received one Emmy nomination during it's tenure. It was Outstanding Animated Program (for Programming Less Than One Hour), and it was for City of Walls and Secrets. And it's easy to see why. Often tense and with a chilling culmination, the story of a rigid and pervasive police state in the Avatar world's grandest metropolis was a daring and evocative chapter. It introduced Long Feng as the villain of the latter half of Boom 2, and reintroduced Jet as the series' tragic hero, the victim through whom the dystopian depths of Ba Sing Se are revealed. Well paced, the only reason this is not number 1 is because I felt the sub-plot of Katara and Toph sneaking into a banquet dinner was just a tad slight. But even with that, I anguished over the question. For one thing, Jet v. Zuko has to be one of the more underrated fights in the series; I mean, if this never happened, Jet v. Zuko would be a dream match-up, correct? And in City of Walls and Secrets, it occurs before the viewer can even brace for it. Also of note are the outstanding backgrounds and designs; they truly built a universe within a universe, while maintaining an atmosphere that is distinctly Earth Kingdom. Even as I go over this before posting, part of me still believes this should be #1.

1.

The Crossroads of Destiny

Perhaps it should come as no surprise that the episode with the biggest turn is the #1 episode. Especially considering that the turn is not cheap, manipulative, or in any way a ploy. It’s like all great turns: a devastatingly illogical decision that, in the end, undermines the validity of our own logic. Logically, Zuko had to join Aang’s side… but wasn’t it illogical for Zuko to do so without returning to the Fire Nation first, seeing it as if he were an outsider? Or, more specifically, in his mindstate at the time, even after his “metamorphosis?” In hindsight, no… but it still dumbfounded many when he turned towards Aang and shot that blast of fire at him. Of course, the way they got there was captivating. Iroh and Zuko being ambushed by the Dai Li, which allowed for Iroh to showcase his power as “the Dragon of the West.” And later, Aang, Sokka, and Toph determining Katara’s disappearance and Iroh’s assistance in finding her. This provides us with our only real interaction between Aang and Iroh, which is fascinating. And finally, the battle itself, which is revelatory. Zuko, seemingly freed from the burden of his HONOR! (at least momentarily) unleashes unforeseen power, actually emitting shock waves from one blast. Katara, however, is enraged and focused, and shockingly dominates Azula for the entirety of the fight. Even the brief asides of Toph and Sokka rescuing the Earth King are great, welcome pace-changers during all the bombastic action and intrigue.

It must be noted just why this episode is #1, over City of Walls and Secrets, Zuko Alone, or even Siege of the North. It’s not just because of the inherent quality of the episode, even though it could certainly be considered a viable candidiate isolated from all narrative. But it is the gravitas provided by that narrative, the encompassing story arc, that propels it past the other episodes. All of Book 2 had been framed by two things: the Avatar State and Zuko’s struggle to reconcile his past with his present. The Avatar State appears as the stabilizing force of the season: it appears at the beginning (The Avatar State), the middle (The Library), and the end (The Crossroads of Destiny). Likewise, Zuko is presented with events pulling him towards and away from his past, his perceived “destiny:” Azula’s deception leading to his fugitive status (The Avatar State), finding a begrudgingly stable life in Ba Sing Se (City of Walls and Secrets), and being drawn back in by Azula (The Crossroads of Destiny). It is in this episode that both come to fruition, and both are shocking: Zuko chooses evil, and Aang cannot save the day. But with Zuko’s pained expression and Aang’s revival by the Spirit Oasis water, hope for both remains.

The Crossroads of Destiny was an event.

Zeroth

Sozin’s Comet

In the end, all I can say is this:

Stop complaining. It’s awesome.

And there it is. Thanks for reading the 10 installments of my 1000th post. :laugh I'll get a proper list out in a bit.

[Quaero]

I've been a longtime lurker of this thread, I've only posted once before,
a few days ago. Now for my second post, this:

Jove, You're Awesome!!!

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv59/enriqueaccorsi/awesome.jpg

Seriously, you win every cookie, kudos, and, internetz that were, are
and will exist. We're not worthy to be in the presence of such
mastermind. I'll reference everyone interested in the series to
"The Post" so that they see it's magnificence, and bask in it's
glorious...erm...glory!

It's a Crowning Moment of Awesome! You've earned the right.
I now proclaim you Saint Patron of the Avatar Fandom!

:thumbs

Long Live Jove! Long Live Avatar!

[Nøøps]

By JOVE I think your awesome.
You are more awesome than Wang Fiyah, Hawky, Haru's Moustache, The Boomer-Aang Squad, and the Entirety of The Post combined.
I believe that we should use my ideas for dicussion topics.

Agreeing with your #1 pic.
And you gotta love it when characters use earth bending to encase themseves with it. In TCoD Aang covers himself with the crystal making a crystal suit. In sozins comet toph makes a metal suit, awesome. and later on in the fnal battle, aang makes a rock suit :D

Btw what does Zeroth mean and why did yuo follow by saying sozins comet?

[masterriku]

Stop complaining. It’s awesome.

People still complain about this, I thought they were all zutarians who moved on to.........other things? :huh



Awesome list personally I rank sozin's comet as the greatest animated finale I've seen in my life.

[Taurus Versant]

Lol, 0th Ranking. Someone's been reading way too much Bleach :awesome

I'll go one step further and add a -1. It starts with a B :hurr

[Nøøps]

My favorite episode starts with "The" :hurr

[Jove]

Btw what does Zeroth mean and why did yuo follow by saying sozins comet?

Zeroth is kind of a mathematical/scientific/elitist term for using zero as the "first" number in a sequence, or as a designation. Think of it like a countdown: You end with zero, right? So it's pretty much that concept. So Sozin's Comet kinf of stands on it's own, but above all the others.

And, so, from the pictures posted in the first installment, we we left with this:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/003.jpg

And then, during the writing process, we arrived at the final product:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/004.jpg

The List

Unrated: The Beach (305)
60: The Painted Lady (303)
59. The King of Omashu (105)
58. The Waterbending Scroll (109)
57. The Awakening (301)
56. The Great Divide (111)
55. Avatar Day (205)
54. The Headband (302)
53. The Fortuneteller (114)
52. Return to Omashu (203)
51. The Western Air Temple (312)
50. The Northern Air Temple (117)
49. The Boy in the Iceberg (101)
48. The Southern Raiders (316)
47. The Runaway (307)
46. Imprisoned (106)
45. The Avatar Returns (102)
44. The Firebending Masters (313)
43. Bitter Work (209)
42. The Avatar and the Firelord (306)
41. The Tales of Ba Sing Se (215)
40. The Puppetmaster (308)
39. Nightmares and Daydreams (309)
38. Jet (110)
37. The Ember Island Players (317)
36. The Warriors of Kyoshi (104)
35.5 The Debut (The Boy in the Iceberg and The Avatar Returns) (101 & 102)
35. The Library (210)
34. Appa’s Lost Days (216)
33. The Spirit World (Winter Solstice, Part 1) (107)
32. The Earth King (218)
31. The Waterbending Master (118)
30. The Boiling Rock, Part 1 (314)
29. The Boiling Rock, Part 2 (315)
28. The Desert (211)
27. The Serpent’s Pass (212)
26. The Day of Black Sun, Part 1 (310)
25. The Day of Black Sun, Part 2 (311)
24. The Swamp (204)
23. Bato of the Water Tribe (115)
22. The Cave of Two Lovers (202)
21. Sozin’s Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King (318)
20. The Southern Air Temple (103)
19. The Deserter (116)
18. The Blind Bandit (206)
17. Lake Laogai (117)
16. The Avatar State (201)
15. Siege of the North, Part 1 (119)
14. The Guru (219)
13. Avatar Roku (Winter Solstice, Part 2)
12. The Chase (208)
11. Sozin’s Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters (319)
10. Sokka’s Master (310)
9. The Blue Spirit (113)
8. The Storm (112)
7. Sozin’s Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno (320)
6. The Drill (213)
5. Sozin’s Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang (321)
4. Siege of the North, Part 2 (120)
3.5. Siege of the North (119 & 120)
3. Zuko Alone (207)
2.5: The Book 2 Finale (The Guru and The Crossroads of Destiny) (219 & 220)
2. City of Walls and Secrets (214)
1. The Crossroads of Destiny (220)
0. Sozin’s Comet (Sozin’s Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King, Sozin’s Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters, Sozin’s Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno, and Sozin’s Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang) (318, 319, 320, & 321)

[Manwë Súlimo]

Lol, 0th Ranking. Someone's been reading way too much Bleach :awesome

I'll go one step further and add a -1. It starts with a B :hurr

Bato of the Water Tribe? :oh

[ReikaiDemon]

Bato of the Water Tribe? :ohThe Beach, you beech

[Nøøps]

That starts with a The :D

[Noah]

So instead of just saying The Beach is a giant turd of an episode and belongs in last, he can only take it off the list.

Yup. I see what kind of person you are now.

Just admit that it belongs somewhere above 61, but your hatred blinds you!

...and that Freddy Got Fingered was a movie worthy of an Oscar nomination! :uwah

[Nøøps]

How about you start a top 5 or top 10 charecter ist Jove :D

[Jove]

It'll take a little meditating for that, but I can offer this animatic of a scene from Sozin's Comet, which went up on youtube a fortnight ago by Oh Seung-Hyun:

X56n9WjSV2I

[Nøøps]

Haha, you have got to love the flamy jets >:D

[Jove]

That's very crafty necromancy, Noops...

I've got to say, I really love Avatar Fandom Secrets, but this one was incredible for the firestorm it caused in the comments:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2jg40me.jpg

[Nøøps]

I am a level 56 necromaniac :D
Wait, so whats FtM?

[Jove]

I am a level 56 necromaniac :D
Wait, so whats FtM?

Well...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mtf

[Nøøps]

I see xD
So does anyone know any new news abut the movie?
I still thin k there shouldbe atleast 2 official cartoon movis ;\

[masterriku]

what Movie 1 would be Zuko centric and movie 2 would be about everyone face something or the other.

[Vault]

The Boulder stomps this

[stab-o-tron5000]

Well, since we've seemed to stray from any particular topic, I'm just gonna go ahead and throw something out there.

Anyone else a bit annoyed that TyZula seems to be becoming the new Zutara?

Don't get me wrong. Ship whatever you want, enjoy it all you want, but please, for the love of Avatar, stop Stop STOP trying to convince yourself (and others) that your crackship is anything other than just that.

[Nøøps]

LEts discuss animated movies shall we?

what Movie 1 would be Zuko centric and movie 2 would be about everyone face something or the other.

Was thinking of something like a movie based on azula escaping :\
And the movie can also have zuko finding his mother.

a-story: Mother finding
b-story: Azula escaping

What doe Jove think?

[Shade]

I had a dream last night about Avatar.

I can't remember all the details but it was an epic battle scene between the Gaang and someone who looked like a hybrid of Combustion Man and the Emperor. The animation was beautiful, very reminiscent of Norio Matsumoto's work. The best part about it was that Hawky was there, I shit you not.

Then I woke up. :(

[stab-o-tron5000]

But if Hawky were there, why would the Gaang even need to bother fighting?

[Nizuma Eiji]

For his amusement!

[Superstarseven]

How about watching three new clips of Japanese dubbed Avatar, Densetsu no Shounen Aang?
Nice time waster.
http://www.nickjapan.com/programs/avatar/index.html

[Jove]

LEts discuss animated movies shall we?



Was thinking of something like a movie based on azula escaping :\
And the movie can also have zuko finding his mother.

a-story: Mother finding
b-story: Azula escaping

What doe Jove think?

I like it. I mean, it would be very simple to have the two stories parallel, and converge.

How about watching three new clips of Japanese dubbed Avatar, Densetsu no Shounen Aang?
Nice time waster.
http://www.nickjapan.com/programs/avatar/index.html

I still despise anyone who prefers the Japanese dub to the original. If you are one of those odious cretins that just wants to apotheosize everything Nippon, you deserve to be strapped to a floor, and each day have a limb covered in ants, so that you are sectionally eaten alive.

If you actually believe it and it is your honest opinion, I hope your recent lobotomy results in a painful, oozing infected.


The clips aren't as bad as I remember. The Avatar State one is pretty cringeworthy, though. Azula and Pakku sound terrible. And Sokka sounds peculiar in every clip.

[ReikaiDemon]

Hi, haven't fallen off the face of the Earth guys, still here

[Noah]

The clips aren't as bad as I remember. The Avatar State one is pretty cringeworthy, though. Azula and Pakku sound terrible. And Sokka sounds peculiar in every clip.

More importantly, why the hell did I hear Pakku say 'genjutsu' when he handed Aang the box of scrolls?

[ReikaiDemon]

More importantly, why the hell did I hear Pakku say 'genjutsu' when he handed Aang the box of scrolls?
It's a homonym for something like truth or something, I can't remember, but it's probably not "spelled" genjutsu, it sounds similar

[Superstarseven]

I still despise anyone who prefers the Japanese dub to the original. If you are one of those odious cretins that just wants to apotheosize everything Nippon, you deserve to be strapped to a floor, and each day have a limb covered in ants, so that you are sectionally eaten alive.

If you actually believe it and it is your honest opinion, I hope your recent lobotomy results in a painful, oozing infected.


Since no one in Japan actually cares enough to record the episodes and make them available online, I don't think we'll ever have to worry about that pocket of the fandom growing. Although how hilarious would it be if those dubbed episodes were available and purist Anime fans, who shunned the series when it was on Nick, discovered the show through those uploads?
I can't even process that idea even though it could never happen.

Actually I have seen some people react too enthusiastically over re-made Avatar openings set to Japanese pop songs on Youtube. Even wondering why the opening wasn't changed every 2-3 months. I'm guessing that these Anime fans are so detached from American animated series to remember that almost every show here is made to be episodic in nature while the Japanese programs are serialized.

I don't mind watching the Avatar anime openings though, if they're well made they can be fun. Not much else to talk about here so I'll post a pretty decent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WciOO8ZEkII

[ReikaiDemon]

Since no one in Japan actually cares enough to record the episodes and make them available online, I don't think we'll ever have to worry about that pocket of the fandom growing. Although how hilarious would it be if those dubbed episodes were available and purist Anime fans, who shunned the series when it was on Nick, discovered the show through those uploads?
I can't even process that idea even though it could never happen.

Actually I have seen some people react too enthusiastically over re-made Avatar openings set to Japanese pop songs on Youtube. Even wondering why the opening wasn't changed every 2-3 months. I'm guessing that these Anime fans are so detached from American animated series to remember that almost every show here is made to be episodic in nature while the Japanese programs are serialized.

I don't mind watching the Avatar anime openings though, if they're well made they can be fun. Not much else to talk about here so I'll post a pretty decent one.

WciOO8ZEkII
It could be worse, they could be bafflingly trying to convince people and theirselves, that the Japanese dub came first, and Nick stole it and dubbed it in eengliiish. It would be funny if they started editing Avatar over there. I mean, Chinese and Korean culture/people aren't exactly liked over there...

[Jove]

Hi, haven't fallen off the face of the Earth guys, still here

Hey, baby. :iria

Since no one in Japan actually cares enough to record the episodes and make them available online, I don't think we'll ever have to worry about that pocket of the fandom growing. Although how hilarious would it be if those dubbed episodes were available and purist Anime fans, who shunned the series when it was on Nick, discovered the show through those uploads?
I can't even process that idea even though it could never happen.

Actually I have seen some people react too enthusiastically over re-made Avatar openings set to Japanese pop songs on Youtube. Even wondering why the opening wasn't changed every 2-3 months. I'm guessing that these Anime fans are so detached from American animated series to remember that almost every show here is made to be episodic in nature while the Japanese programs are serialized.

I don't mind watching the Avatar anime openings though, if they're well made they can be fun. Not much else to talk about here so I'll post a pretty decent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WciOO8ZEkII

A lot of these fascinate me. That one is phenomenal. The ones that blackssk posted here were outstanding. But there are a lot that are just ostentatious vanity projects whose main purpose is to display how many editing tricks they can fit into a 3 minute video.

Hmmm, I've never looked into it, but I'm sure DVDs will be released there eventually. Then we shall see. I do recall the larger-than-expected, and seemingly out-of-nowhere, discussion about whether the Opening Sequence should be changed for Book 3, and that debate reemerging for Sozin's Comet. It still baffles me; we should be lucky that it remained stable, and wasn't drastically edited down at some point.

[Superstarseven]

M&B could have commissioned a new opening for just the final 4 episodes without it being a distraction from the rest of the series. Something displaying clips of Aang's progress up to The Phoenix King so that the audience sees how far he's come. I suppose you would have to add Zuko in there since the show was really about those two. Something stylized would have been cool like showing Aang's adventures as illustrations on parchment paper.

That would have been more than acceptable although the last line that Katara leaves us with in the opening, about Aang having "a lot to learn before he can save the world", was still very much relevant although he wasn't the same kid that She and her brother found in the iceberg by the time of those last episodes.
Besides all that, a new opener featuring a J-pop or American pop song would have been completely out of place and just plain puzzling. Because the show looks the way it does; a standard anime opening seems to fit. Much more so than some fan creating one for Danny Phantom or Justice League for example.

I think those "Can Avatar be considered Anime" discussions continue to pop up on various message boards for years to come but there's no need to tie it in closer to that genre by wishing that it had more Japanese elements. Although, I wouldn't mind more super-deformed shorts and I look forward to those film manga adaptations. And I wouldn't mind seeing a few Japanese dubbed episodes.

OK, maybe I'm guilty too.

[Nøøps]

Well, there are people who will argue that its only considered anime if its made in japan. Those people are also called idiots. Then there are others who believe that shows that have that perticular drawing style are anime. Personally, ill stay out of this argument. Look up a definition of anime.

[ReikaiDemon]

Well, there are people who will argue that its only considered anime if its made in japan. Those people are also called idiots. Then there are others who believe that shows that have that perticular drawing style are anime. Personally, ill stay out of this argument. Look up a definition of anime.You know, Japan doesn't use the word anime much. People that argue about what is anime and what is not are just effing weaboos.

[masterriku]

LEts discuss animated movies shall we?



Was thinking of something like a movie based on azula escaping :\
And the movie can also have zuko finding his mother.

a-story: Mother finding
b-story: Azula escaping

What doe Jove think?

And Azula can stalk Zuko on his quest to find his mother.

Something about that last sentence bothers me oh well I sure it's nothing. :zaru

[Nøøps]

And Azula can stalk Zuko on his quest to find his mother.

Something about that last sentence bothers me oh well I sure it's nothing. :zaru
:LOS

And zuko finds his mother but then azula appears and sees her and gets even more mentally unstable and goes crazier and theres a big fight!

Doe that sound good?
:LOS

[Nimander]

Is there an animated movie in the works? Or is it just fan supposition at this point in time?

[Superstarseven]

Animated film? No, there's not one in the works.
I think we may have seen the last of Aang and Zuko's further adventures forever...in any form.
If all those Nick comics get released sometime soon, we'll see material right up to Aang being told that he was the Avatar and before Sozin's Comet.

[ReikaiDemon]

:LOS

And zuko finds his mother but then azula appears and sees her and gets even more mentally unstable and goes crazier and theres a big fight!

Doe that sound good?
:LOS
I smell firecest...

[Jove]

I smell firecest...

Firecest is highercest. :edu

[masterriku]

I smell firecest...

Firecest is highercest. :edu

So that's what was bothering me. :hurr

[Nøøps]

So that's what was bothering me. :hurr

I feel a disturbance in my pants. :LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

I feel a disturbance in my pants. :LOS
Dude, do you not mind doing that while we're playing telephone? :D:

So, I noticed these while I was browsing tv.com

http://userimage.tv.com/user_images/profile/4/9/22502180963806330791856983254994/tv_profile.jpg
http://userimage.tv.com/user_images/icon/4/9/22502180963806330791856983254994/tv_icon.jpg

wtf

[Nøøps]

Impossible and creepy :edu

Wait isnt tv.com supposed to have like official show related stuff xD

[ReikaiDemon]

Impossible and creepy :edu

Wait isnt tv.com supposed to have like official show related stuff xD
They were AVATARS hurr hurr hurr :hurr

[Jove]

So that's what was bothering me. :hurr

I Google'd it. I think I may have been the first person in history to use the phraseword "highercest." :quite

[masterriku]

ummmmmm


Congratulation reward yourself with some avatar aang approved custard tarts.

[stab-o-tron5000]

ummmmmm


Congratulation reward yourself with some avatar aang approved custard tarts.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Avatart.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Avatart.jpg
You just had to bite into Jove's tarts :pek

Lousy thieving baker :pek

[Nøøps]

You just had to bite into Jove's tarts :pek

Lousy thieving baker :pek

Yeah,
I wanted some...
:vegetant

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah,
I wanted some...
:vegetantI want some unfried fried avatar dough :edu

[Nøøps]

400 fried unfired doughs?
:awesome:gun

[Batman]

Why didn't you gais tell me to watch that show slower. Now it's over and I'm an addict wanting more.

[masterriku]

Don't matter how slow you watch it you still want more.

At least you didn't have retarded waits involved when watching.

[Nøøps]

Batman, you need to watch one episode a week for about 20 weeks then wait 5 months ten watch 20 more weeks worth then wait 5 more months then watch12 episodes then wait over half a year o-o

[ReikaiDemon]

Batman, you need to watch one episode a week for about 20 weeks then wait 5 months ten watch 20 more weeks worth then wait 5 more months then watch12 episodes then wait over half a year o-o
o/^ Meeeeemories~..... o/^

[Jove]

o/^ Meeeeemories~..... o/^

I know, right? And I yearn for those days now.

[stab-o-tron5000]

I already posted this in the Avatar FC thread, but screw it, I'm posting it here too...

Hey, guess what I did at work today...

THIS!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Jigarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Plasmarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Rougharang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Drillarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/halfarang.jpg


Work permitting, I'll start on the bladed edges tomorrow, or at least by the end of the week.

I think it's going pretty well so far. I wasn't so sure about the size when I first started, seemed a little small (...that's what she said), but after holding it in my hand, it actually feels just about right (...can I make that joke twice for the same sentence?).

Oh yeah, and a little warning.

When you're doing this:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Sparksarang.jpg

Make sure you're not doing it by some dry rags piled up next to a can of Lacquer Thinner:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Oops.jpg

I smelled something smoking and pulled my mask up to see this can surrounded by fire (that's why it's burned) and had to stomp the fire out before the can exploded. That would have made me sad (though there's a slight chance I could have been left with the ability to cosplay Zuko extremely well!)

[Nøøps]

Jove, i think this boomerang will actually have a chance to compete with the post >:O
Blasphemy!

[ReikaiDemon]

I already posted this in the Avatar FC thread, but screw it, I'm posting it here too...

Hey, guess what I did at work today...

THIS!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Jigarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Plasmarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Rougharang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Drillarang.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/halfarang.jpg


Work permitting, I'll start on the bladed edges tomorrow, or at least by the end of the week.

I think it's going pretty well so far. I wasn't so sure about the size when I first started, seemed a little small (...that's what she said), but after holding it in my hand, it actually feels just about right (...can I make that joke twice for the same sentence?).

Oh yeah, and a little warning.

When you're doing this:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Sparksarang.jpg

Make sure you're not doing it by some dry rags piled up next to a can of Lacquer Thinner:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Oops.jpg

I smelled something smoking and pulled my mask up to see this can surrounded by fire (that's why it's burned) and had to stomp the fire out before the can exploded. That would have made me sad (though there's a slight chance I could have been left with the ability to cosplay Zuko extremely well!)
I thunk that the Firebenders were attacking you

[Nøøps]

I thunk that the Firebenders were attacking you

They tried to twart the making of the AVATAR-ang
:LOS punz

[Jove]

They tried to twart the making of the AVATAR-ang
:LOS punz

:mst

Sighhhhh... thread needs resurrection. Looks like I will have to rank characters.

Also, Stab looks intimidatingly cool in his gear.

[Nøøps]

Oh good your on.
Told ya you needed to make that list. :P
Personally, with joke characters like wang fiyah and hawky put aside, my faves are sokka, toph, ty lee, and iroh, in no particular order.

[Jove]

Oh good your on.
Told ya you needed to make that list. :P
Personally, with joke characters like wang fiyah and hawky put aside, my faves are sokka, toph, ty lee, and iroh, in no particular order.

Watchoo gittin on 'bout, pilgrim? :capc

[Nøøps]

Eaasy there p----ilgrim.
I saying wang hawky, andof couse melon lord are the best, but e HAVE to give the others a chance.
Derf.
:LOS:gun

[ReikaiDemon]

Eaasy there p----ilgrim.
I saying wang hawky, andof couse melon lord are the best, but e HAVE to give the others a chance.
Derf.
:LOS:gun
Let's just fry him in oil, just to be on the safe side

[Jove]

Let's just fry him in oil, just to be on the safe side

You just want to see me covered in oil.


It's Avatar Day every day in my mind; no oil allowed on my person. :quite

[ReikaiDemon]

You just want to see me covered in oil.


It's Avatar Day every day in my mind; no oil allowed on my person. :quite
Just fill him full rocks and earthbend float him into the vat :edu

[stab-o-tron5000]

:mst
Sighhhhh... thread needs resurrection. Looks like I will have to rank characters.
I think I speak for most everyone in this thread when I say I would love to see that.


Also, Stab looks intimidatingly cool in his gear.

Thanks, but just so you know, I actually look pretty dorky with it off.


Also, here's some Azula art a friend of mine did for a fic I'm working on:
(CAUTION: spoiler tag contains shameless self promotion!)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/Azula_Compilation_sketches_by_Captt.jpg
all the "face" drawings are just him copying from the show to get a feel for the character. The two full body pics are actually how she looks in the fic. The outfit she has on is Earth Kingdom clothing. Ii the story, she's currently hiding out in the Earth Kingdom after escaping the Asylum, where she's currently planning retaliation against Zuko (I.E. making him much less alive than he is now).

[Voynich]

You just want to see me covered in oil.


It's Avatar Day every day in my mind; no oil allowed on my person. :quite

Would it change your mind if I said I'd like to see you covered in oil?:wink

[Nøøps]

Ah, i think stabby has the azula escaping theme. :LOS
that is one i like

[Superrazien]

Any new updates or pictures on the movie?

[masterriku]

Second...............page!!!!!
The hell is wrong with joo ppl.:pek

Sokka wank wank

Pop Question who is the longest living Avatar?

[ReikaiDemon]

Second...............page!!!!!
The hell is wrong with joo ppl.:pek

Sokka wank wank

Pop Question who is the longest living Avatar?Avatar Mothafkn Samuel L. Jackson, Mothafka

Damn, I can see all my reps ever, and I just got to finally getting masterikku's rep off my page, it was stretching my user CP :pek:gun

[masterriku]

Can't.remember. why. that. would. be.must.stop.placing.periods.after.each.word

[stab-o-tron5000]

Quick, someone make a substantial post. masterriku is turning into William Shatner!

[Taurus Versant]

Was there any, any mention of those animated shorts we all thought were going to happen eventually? I was looking forward to them.

Also, any more comics like that Toph vs Bumi one?

[Jove]

Was there any, any mention of those animated shorts we all thought were going to happen eventually? I was looking forward to them.

Also, any more comics like that Toph vs Bumi one?

So far, nothing on the shorts, beyond the possibility that it was promoted without any knowledge from Mike and Bryan. A possibility which arises from the fact that they seemed to have no knowledge of such a thing.

There are more comics coming. I'm not sure when, though.

[Nøøps]

I need toph vs bumi links now people!

[Jaga]

New pix from the movie:
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2009/10/new-images-of-the-last-airbender

if that's iroh then he's not bald?

[Jove]

I need toph vs bumi links now people!

Alsjeblieft:

http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/Eternal_Light55/Bumi%20Vs%20Toph%20Comic/

[Superstarseven]

New pix from the movie:
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2009/10/new-images-of-the-last-airbender

if that's iroh then he's not bald?

Iroh wasn't bald but he is balding.
Although yes, Shaun Toub's portrayal does have more hair on top.

[Nøøps]

Iroh wasn't bald but he is balding.
Although yes, Shaun Toub's portrayal does have more hair on top.

Meh, I dont care 4 hair. xD
I can rhyme on a dime.
Ima a poet and i didnt even know it
Im awesome and ..... BELIEVE IT!

[ReikaiDemon]

Meh, I dont care 4 hair. xD
I can rhyme on a dime.
Ima a poet and i didnt even know it
Im awesome and ..... BELIEVE IT!
*Bouncer kicks you out*

[stab-o-tron5000]

I just realized who toub reminds me of in that getup. Anyone remember "The Prince's Bride"... wonder if toub is sporting six fingers on one hand.

[Superstarseven]

The Princess Bride. And I'm not familiar enough with that film to agree or disagree.

[Jove]

Meh, I dont care 4 hair. xD
I can rhyme on a dime.
Ima a poet and i didnt even know it
Im awesome and ..... BELIEVE IT!

It's too bad you weren't around for the landmark Haiku/Limerick Slam that spontaneously came about last year.

[Nøøps]

It's too bad you weren't around for the landmark Haiku/Limerick Slam that spontaneously came about last year.

Here in the AtLA Discussion?

[Kiba Inuzuka]

Hey everyone, if anyone's interested in joining the new Avatar RP (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=544556) feel free to join. No RP experience required :amuse

[The Cheat]

You guys ever heard of this fancomic called Zhao of the water tribe. They say its pretty good.

[Jove]

Here in the AtLA Discussion?

Yup. Started at the bottom of this page: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=74426&page=480


You guys ever heard of this fancomic called Zhao of the water tribe. They say its pretty good.

Heard of it. Johane Matte illustrates, so it must be good. It is 450 pages, so I need to set aside time to read it.

[The Cheat]

You guys also heard of the infamous how I became yours?

[stab-o-tron5000]

Hey everyone, if anyone's interested in joining the new Avatar RP (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=544556) feel free to join. No RP experience required :amuse

Eh, this kinda puts me off:

The newest Avatar started in the fire nation, being raised by a family of fire nation super loyalists, who still believe in fire nation supremacy. Despite all of the teachings by the Avatar's tutors, they never forgets what their family had raised them to feel about the rest of the nations. Little by little, bit by bit, their hatred grows to irrational proportions, and the Avatar finally decides to leaps into action.


It just seems totally canon breaking. Having the vatar turn evil is just about impossible. It's not just that he's trained with people from the other nations, and so would have a certian amount of respect for them. As a constantly reincarnating spirit, he's actually been those people from other nations.

The Avatar wouldn't start a war against the Earth Kingdom, because he is Earth Kingdom.

On top of all that, he's also the embodied spirit of the planet. At his very core, he understands implicitly that all the nations and elements are of equal importance. Once again, having the avatar actually start a war is to completely ignore who the avatar is. It just doesn't make any sense.

Plus, the second he activates the Avatar state, all his past lives are going to (somehow) beat the shit out of him. That pretty much rules out any spirit world journey. Any and all of his past lives would be waiting on the other side to bitch slap him the second he shows up.

Speaking of which, as we saw in the show, the more in tune Aang became with his powers, the easier it was for his past lives to communicate with him. After a few years this guys gonna go stark raving mad since every waking minute of his life he's going to be hounded by spirits of his past lives (which only he can see) constantly giving him variations of "DUDE, WHAT THE FUCK!?"

[stab-o-tron5000]

You guys also heard of the infamous how I became yours?

I frequent Plus 4chan /a/ on a regular basis, so yeah, Ive heard of it (they're the ones who got here banned on DeviantArt). But I'd prefer if it didn't make it's way here.

It's like she not only took the worst aspects of Zutara (Ii.e. all the aspects of Zutara) and combined them with the worst aspects of the rest of the fandom, nixed in horrible storytelling, a side of art theft, and a hefty disregard for the actual series itself. And viola, you have the single worst thing fanfic/comic to ever be produced in the Avatar fandumb.

The Princess Bride. And I'm not familiar enough with that film to agree or disagree.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/TheSixFingeredIroh.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

The Princess Bride. And I'm not familiar enough with that film to agree or disagree.
Despite the fluffy title, Princess Bride is possibly one of the most macho movies/book ever.

[Kiba Inuzuka]

Eh, this kinda puts me off:



It just seems totally canon breaking. Having the vatar turn evil is just about impossible. It's not just that he's trained with people from the other nations, and so would have a certian amount of respect for them. As a constantly reincarnating spirit, he's actually been those people from other nations.

The Avatar wouldn't start a war against the Earth Kingdom, because he is Earth Kingdom.

On top of all that, he's also the embodied spirit of the planet. At his very core, he understands implicitly that all the nations and elements are of equal importance. Once again, having the avatar actually start a war is to completely ignore who the avatar is. It just doesn't make any sense.

Plus, the second he activates the Avatar state, all his past lives are going to (somehow) beat the shit out of him. That pretty much rules out any spirit world journey. Any and all of his past lives would be waiting on the other side to bitch slap him the second he shows up.

Speaking of which, as we saw in the show, the more in tune Aang became with his powers, the easier it was for his past lives to communicate with him. After a few years this guys gonna go stark raving mad since every waking minute of his life he's going to be hounded by spirits of his past lives (which only he can see) constantly giving him variations of "DUDE, WHAT THE FUCK!?"

You have to admit that it is an interesting concept and it also makes it so that every PC isn't upshowed by the Avatar, instead they are all against him.

Just because he has already been these people from other nations doesn't mean he can't act differently because of the way he was raised. All of the other Avatars wanted Aang to kill Ozai, but because of the way that he was raised he refused to.

You make it seem like they are all the same person, personality and all, but that's not really the case. The Avatar isn't just the Avatar, they are also the original person that they were born to be. Aang ran away from his duty as the Avatar, his "very core" didn't stop him from doing that, which caused the world to go into War.

As for the Avatar State, we've already discussed before making the thread that the Avatar would never be able to go into the Avatar State for the very reason you stated.

That's an interesting thought you have and it would be interesting if he eventually turned into a crazed mad man.

[Nøøps]

I still dont like the concept o-o

[stab-o-tron5000]

Just because he has already been these people from other nations doesn't mean he can't act differently because of the way he was raised. All of the other Avatars wanted Aang to kill Ozai, but because of the way that he was raised he refused to.


Roku told him to be decisive.

Kyoshi told him to only justice will bring peace.

Kuruk told him you must activley shape your own destiny, and the destiny of the world.

YengChen told him to do whatever it takes to protect the world.

They never told Aang to kill Ozai. None of them. In fact Aang followed their advice pretty much to the letter.

[Kiba Inuzuka]

I still dont like the concept o-o

Thanks...for your...helpful opinion?

Roku told him to be decisive.

Kyoshi told him to only justice will bring peace.

Kuruk told him you must activley shape your own destiny, and the destiny of the world.

YengChen told him to do whatever it takes to protect the world.

They never told Aang to kill Ozai. None of them. In fact Aang followed their advice pretty much to the letter.

Alrighty then, no need to drag it out. If you don't want to join that's totally fine with me, if you do, feel free to roll up a character and join up with us. Though it may not be completely accurate by the true plot's standards it will get the job done for the sake of our little RP.

[ReikaiDemon]

Roku told him to be decisive.

Kyoshi told him to only justice will bring peace.

Kuruk told him you must activley shape your own destiny, and the destiny of the world.

YengChen told him to do whatever it takes to protect the world.

They never told Aang to kill Ozai. None of them. In fact Aang followed their advice pretty much to the letter.
I just had a funny thought, what if all the Avatars were like "Oh shit, what do we tell this kid?"

"Let's just give him super vague, ultra open ended, subjective questions. :LOS"

[Nøøps]

I just had a funny thought, what if all the Avatars were like "Oh shit, what do we tell this kid?"

"Let's just give him super vague, ultra open ended, subjective questions. :LOS"

"If you want to know the secret of being a good avatar, you must first KNOW the secret of being a good avatar"
-Advice from Avatar Noopseku

I just had an idea :D
Lets play the super vague, ultra open ended, subjective questions/avatar advice game :DD

[masterriku]

Believe in the future persist in the present.
That's my advice.

[Nøøps]

Follow your Fate and clarity will soon follow.

O_O wtf

[ReikaiDemon]

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains :LOS

We don't listen to him, because he was the senile Avatar :LOS

[Nøøps]

Do you think that when movie releases we will ahve as many people on as when the final 4 episodes aired? No spoilrs when movie does come out, dont even tell me if it sucks.

[masterriku]

That's almost a year from now I can only hope that

A) This thread hasn't fallen into the abyss of the theatre

B)The Movie is pure win and Nick request a sequel series.

[Nimander]

:lmao

Some of the posts on this page are win.

[Nøøps]

That's almost a year from now I can only hope that

A) This thread has fallen into the abyss of the theatre

B)The Movie is pure win and Nick request a sequel series.

WHAT! You want this thread to die?

[tari101190]

want to write a 'boook 4: air' fanfic now. i miss avatar SO much!

- set 10 years ahead maybe?
- aang will die right at the start, while katara is in labour saying 'where is he?!'.
- aang will be fighting a new powerful enemy, but dies.
- as katara gives birth, the baby glows, signalling a new avatar; the baby.
- she cries cos she realizes if her baby is the new avatar, then aang is dead.
- new avatar is a water bending girl who is katara's daughter.
- she wants to avenge her fathers death etc.
- will introduce a group of air benders who were seperate from the nomads.
- guy who defeated aang will be an air bender.
- perhaps new 'benders', who are non-elemental? energy benders?

main characters:
- katara's daughter (the new avatar)
- sokka's son (water bending prodigy blessed by the moon spirit)
- zuko's son (new fire prince)
- random earth bender guy...
- random air bender girl (secret daughter of the aang-killer)

bending teachers:
- water by katara
- earth by toph
- fire by azula
- air by aang's killer
- energy bending from secret 'energy benders'?

[stab-o-tron5000]

Seems workable enough. A few minor gripes though.

Two minor things

First;
I wouldn't call it "Book 4: Air". There's literally about a hundred Avatar fanfics with this title out there. Plus, that makes it seem like another season (or book) continuation of the show. And while this follows the characters from the show, this is a whole new adventure with a new generation of heroes. THe title should reflect that.

Second;


- aang will die right at the start, while katara is in labour saying 'where is he?!'.

- as katara gives birth, the baby glows, signalling a new avatar; the baby.

- she cries cos she realizes if her baby is the new avatar, then aang is dead.


It's not like this breaks cannon necessarily, but it does seem a little odd. Aang was born two weeks after Roku died. Having Aang's spirit transfer while Katara's actually in labor seems a little off. Almost like it's drama for the sake of drama. It would seem more realistic (?) if Aang died maybe a few weeks before his kid was born.

Also, they didn't find out Aang was the new Avatar until they tested him (with the toys he picked out). So that probably wouldn't have been until he was at least a few years old (at least 2 or so). So, in cannon, there's no indication that a babies the Avatar when it's born.


- perhaps new 'benders', who are non-elemental? energy benders?

bending teachers:
- energy bending from secret 'energy benders'?

I'd steer away from making up new kinds of bending or having anyone but the Avatar knowing energy bending. It's totally canon breaking. Metalbendings one thing, it's just a subset of earthbending, and if you can come up with other reasonable "subsets" within the other bending arts, fine, but I wouldn't make up anything outside that.

As far as the energy bending. It's pretty much implied that Aangs the first human to know energy bending in probably a few thousand years. Once again, throwing a group of energy benders into the story pretty much breaks with canon.

On top of that, is it even necessary for the new Avatar (or the story) to even have Energybending?


Take all this with a grain of salt of course. It's your story, so do as you will. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

[tari101190]

i wasn't too serious about making a story. they were just a few ideas about what i would do if there was another story.

maybe the baby glows cos the spirit only just transferred that second. maybe nobody saw aang didn't glow cos he was still inside his mum...it's a bit 'weird', but cool i thought. it doesn't go against the canon much anyway.

but perhaps aang could have died an unknown while before the baby is born. but katara etc would't know exactly when. maybe he would be 'missing' for a while. or whatever.

didn't want 'energy benders' really. but wanted some sort of magic ppl who didn't use elements. after i thought of that i rememebered about energy bending so thought i should just use that. i guess it's a bit weird. i just wanted the villains to be powerful and new.

but aang knew energy bending, so avatars after him should know about it too. share the same mind/spirit afterall.

[Battoumaru]

Book 4: Air logically should have been made for the sake of completion of the cycle.

[stab-o-tron5000]

i wasn't too serious about making a story. they were just a few ideas about what i would do if there was another story.

maybe the baby glows cos the spirit only just transferred that second. maybe nobody saw aang didn't glow cos he was still inside his mum...it's a bit 'weird', but cool i thought. it doesn't go against the canon much anyway.

but perhaps aang could have died an unknown while before the baby is born. but katara etc would't know exactly when. maybe he would be 'missing' for a while. or whatever.

didn't want 'energy benders' really. but wanted some sort of magic ppl who didn't use elements. after i thought of that i rememebered about energy bending so thought i should just use that. i guess it's a bit weird. i just wanted the villains to be powerful and new.

but aang knew energy bending, so avatars after him should know about it too. share the same mind/spirit afterall.

It was just a few nitpicks. Honestly, bending canon (such as energybenders) isn't bad, as long as it's handled well.

After all who am I to talk. My fic has a character that catches on fire randomly and can sense when benders are around. None of your ideas really break canon actually, it's just (if you do write it) things like that should get a good explanation so it doesn't come out of left field. That's all I was commenting on (such as one of the energy benders explaining how and why they've stayed hiding for eons, or Aang could have taught a few trusted individuals).

If you do write it. shoot me a link.

Book 4: Air logically should have been made for the sake of completion of the cycle.

The books were named after the element Aang was learning at the time. He was already a master airbender, on top of being the last of them, So really, what would "Air" have been about.

[Marisuki]

It would have been nice to have gotten a Book Four, they probably could of came up with a few awesome episodes but maybe not good enough to live up to the other ones.
The only thing left of Avatar now and what I'm waiting for is The Manga that's comming out and the Live action Movie lets see how they turn out.

[Nøøps]

Where is jove, i want him back, i miss him!

[masterriku]

Check the bleach and music department.:zaru

[Jove]

Stab is answering all the questions for me. In unfortunate Avatar-related news, a couple of my Four Nations pendants are starting to decay in the back... :(

[ReikaiDemon]

what thethethe fuck? all our thethethethethethes are multiplied

[Jove]

thethethe main point: my beloved pendants!! :cry

Edit: DON'T MAKE ME USE DE AND HET, NF MODCUNTS.

[Italics]

^ Jove to de rescue!!!

[Italics]

Okay here's a question:

If you could have Sokka bend and element, which would fit his character de best?

[masterriku]

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I concur :quite

[Nøøps]

Four nations pendants?
Saiwutnao?

[Banhammer]

Vague Avatar Advice: Aang, the answer is 42

[Jove]

Four nations pendants?
Saiwutnao?

A few years ago, a girl made them and put them up on Ebay irregularly. I really love them and wear one every day, but they are made from cheap materials and starting to wear out a bit.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/002.jpg

Side note: I've been wearing Fire for the last week or so. :gar

[Nøøps]

:o dude those are awesome-tastic!
How much were they?

[Jove]

I believe they were about $20 for the set. She made them so irregularly; I think I waited 4-5 months between the time I first saw them (and inexplicably passed on), and the time another batch went up.

[Nøøps]

Really cool, the pendants are. :LOS
Umm has u seen teh iroh pics?
Opinion?

[ReikaiDemon]

This movie needs Kenan Thompson :LOS

On another note, I saw a trailer for that other Avatar movie...

James Cameron, you are overrated as shit.

[Nøøps]

From nowon that movie will be called, Other avatar.
Hot blue chicks riding monsters tho :O

[stab-o-tron5000]

It's pretty much just Ferngully in space.

That's not a good thing.

[Nøøps]

Anyone got any new fanfic's fanart's roleplays that are good. ^^

[masterriku]

Why don't you just head over to the avatar roleplay in the Roleplay section noops?

[Nøøps]

Anyone got any new fanfic's fanart's roleplays that are good. ^^

Pay close attention.
:edu

[ReikaiDemon]

Roxas is Ven D:

[Nøøps]

Roxas is Ven D:

O.O Whatever that means
Can i get some fanart/fanfic's?

[masterriku]

Roxas is Ven D:

NO HE FUCKING ISN'T ARGHAKLEJHJKLSADHFJSDHGASDH.

*composes self* are you the same Reikaidemon on gamefaqs?

[ReikaiDemon]

NO HE FUCKING ISN'T ARGHAKLEJHJKLSADHFJSDHGASDH.

*composes self* are you the same Reikaidemon on gamefaqs?
Yes, I used to use Gamespot, but those effing Nazis banned me, so now, I'm on Gamefaqs. It's a bit harder to use since I can only post ten times a day because of my level.

I'm just kidding though, Roxas is Roxas, and Ven is Ven, and Nomura is a horrible artist as always.

I wish I had a PSP ._.

I beat 358/2 Days

[Nøøps]

Hey, i have an idea, lets get on topic.
:D Even though it is kinda hard.

[masterriku]

Fine then what does noops want to talk about?

[Jove]

Noops is still getting used to the thread; our complete inability to be anything less than an anthology of Modern Life will soon be second nature to our new comrade.


But sure: I think the Dai Li don't get enough credit. When people mention Earthbending, it's always Toph and Bumi... :pek. That's my final thought, my final thought is literally the pek smiley.

[masterriku]

Dai li you mean those corrupt earthbenders trained by Aang's Toph equivalent past life or is it the other way around?
Yeah they were pretty good however Haru's mustache was better.:LOS


edit:noops here a list of Fanfic recommendations courtesy tvtropes

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanficRecs/Ptitlemxi508a6

[ReikaiDemon]

Fine then what does noops want to talk about?Birds and the bees, Avatar style

[jereith]

But sure: I think the Dai Li don't get enough credit. When people mention Earthbending, it's always Toph and Bumi... :pek. That's my final thought, my final thought is literally the pek smiley.

Toph is the Gaara and Chun-Li of avatar, I think thats why she gets more fame.

[Nøøps]

Birds and the bees, Avatar style

Also known as book 4, air

:awesome

BTW Jove, ive been with the thread for like a year and a half, i is not new <,.,<

[Stark042]

:argh I wish i was into Narutoforums when this Thread started, Avatar is one of my fav shows i've been into it since it came out and all this time you guys loved it to. Wish i could have been apart of the conversations:cry Now the show has eneded and were waiting for the movie. Hope M Night doesn't mess it up. Anyways, whats the topic now???


(i've also read almost all these pages;33)

[Jove]

Also known as book 4, air

:awesome

BTW Jove, ive been with the thread for like a year and a half, i is not new <,.,<

:uwah

It's been that long?! Good God, it has been that long... it still seems like only a few months since the finale for me.


(i've also read almost all these pages;33)

You mean all 634? I'll commend that, certainly.

[ReikaiDemon]

:argh I wish i was into Narutoforums when this Thread started, Avatar is one of my fav shows i've been into it since it came out and all this time you guys loved it to. Wish i could have been apart of the conversations:cry Now the show has eneded and were waiting for the movie. Hope M Night doesn't mess it up. Anyways, whats the topic now???


(i've also read almost all these pages;33)
Ah yes, you have witnessed my many instances of win :LOS

[Superrazien]

Anyone know if there's any Live Action movie updates?

[Nøøps]

I go to youtube.com/RallisP for movie updates, he does videos called Movie Buzz, he probably will have trailers when they appear :P

[masterriku]

It has been awhile since we heard anything about the movie.

[Stark042]

What date does the Movie come out anyway i so forgot???

[Nøøps]

Fffffffffff-june? the 67 teenth :LOS

[Stark042]

^^ Yea that sounds about right.

[masterriku]

I have an unimportant question why I haven't I made Friend request to the people on this thread?

[ReikaiDemon]

I have an unimportant question why I haven't I made Friend request to the people on this thread?Because you are an evil puppy kicker that likes to steal candy from babies and make evil abominations from piecing together corpses

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8153/1256703328851.jpg

*dies*

[Jove]

Go-Devil-Dante... :pek

I have an unimportant question why I haven't I made Friend request to the people on this thread?

It's like Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell; sometimes you don't need the paperwork to confirm your relationship. :love

[Nøøps]

We love riku no matters what :D

[Avian005]

I miss seeing new episodes of Avatar. :( I wish there was a book four! :cry

Dang...it's been a year since the show ended? :amazed Where's my movie dammit. :notrust

[ReikaiDemon]

We love riku no matters what :D
Riku? As in one K Riku with questionable closeness to Mickey?

[Jove]

Riku? As in one K Riku with questionably closeness to Mickey?

There's a Riku in the MD, maybe that's the one. Good looking kid. He's worth loving.






























PS: I ship it. :noworry

[ReikaiDemon]

There's a Riku in the MD, maybe that's the one. Good looking kid. He's worth loving.






























PS: I ship it. :noworry
D:

I can only imagine...

"Oho! do me right up the pellet hole, oho!"

:D:

[Dragonus Nesha]

Speaking of which, we watched Seven Years in Tibet in one of my classes and I giggled when Mako would appear and talk. Of course, I was sad when I remembered he died. :( But now I know what he looked like.

[masterriku]

Riku? As in one K Riku with questionable closeness to Mickey?

mmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:pek

[Nøøps]

Speaking of which, we watched Seven Years in Tibet in one of my classes and I giggled when Mako would appear and talk. Of course, I was sad when I remembered he died. :( But now I know what he looked like.

Awww, nice story.
Mako and old iroh ftw.

...



Ship :amuse

[masterriku]

Hey guys lets start a ridiculous rumor about there being an Avatar prequel.:LOS

[Jove]

I was forwarded a memo from Paramount HQ, written by M NIGHT SHYAMALAN HIMSELF, which outlines the prequel:

Apparently it is about Gyatso. Initially, he is the kind-hearted mentor of Aang. But as Aang grows more powerful, Gyatso's avuncular nature turns to resentment and jealousy. He engineers a secret pact with the Fire Nation for the FN to mobilize, causing the Council of Elders to reveal to Aang his Avatar status, and eventually leading to Aang running away. Aang then nearly dies in the storm...

A STORM THAT GYATSO HIMSELF CAUSED! :uwah :uwah :uwah

I cannot divulge the document itself out of respect for my insider resource, but it's not just trufax, it's TRUE FACTS AS WELL! :jackal

[jkingler]

Homahgot. Dorama!

/spreads it virally

[Nøøps]

[/viralspread]
IT MUSNT HAPPEN!

[ReikaiDemon]

Hey guys lets start a ridiculous rumor about there being an Avatar prequel.:LOSSo there once was a kid that looks a lot like Fire Nation Aang, he had two friends, Sui and Di, Di may perhaps be the two villains that plagues the present day Gaangin their multiworld adventure... The bending wars....Dai Li= Third enemy...

[Nøøps]

Ok the prequel will be about the avatar 50 generations before aang, set in the time when ba sing se was just completed, and the first king was established. The first king, Edo was the visionary who was said to have united the earth kingdom, and broken up the 5th great earth civil war, in one speech. He designed ba sing se himself, and appointed himself king at the age of 35. Edo had a brother, his name was Tsun, he was sixteen, and he is the avatar!

(I made this in like 3 minutes O_O I have to admit it sounds pretty good. )

[Koi]

YOU'RE ALL WRONG.

I heard the prequel foretold Zutara.

[ReikaiDemon]

Ok the prequel will be about the avatar 48 generations before aang, set in the time when ba sing se was just completed, and the first king was established. The first king, Edo was the visionary who was said to have united the earth kingdom, and broken up the 5th great earth civil war, in one speech. He designed ba sing se himself, and appointed himself king at the age of 35. Edo had a brother, his name was Tsun, he was sixteen, and he is the avatar!

(I made this in like 3 minutes O_O I have to admit it sounds pretty good. Oh and can someone tell me if 48 generations before aang was an earthbender, thanks)
So lets see, Aang was after Roku, I can't remember the order, but I think before Roku was water, then Earth. That means if you go back to 48 generations, there would be 12 of each bending class. So if earth, water, fire, and air is correct, then the Avatar at 48 generations before Aang is an earthbender, if not, a water bender

Man, I saw the TMNT movie, Splinter=Iroh

[Dragonus Nesha]

So lets see, Aang was after Roku, I can't remember the order, but I think before Roku was water, then Earth. That means if you go back to 48 generations, there would be 12 of each bending class. So if earth, water, fire, and air is correct, then the Avatar at 48 generations before Aang is an earthbender, if not, a water bender0. Air - Aang
1. Fire - Roku
2. Earth - Kyoshi
3. Water - Kuruk
4. Air - Yangchen
5. F
6. E
7. W
8. A
9. F
10. E
11. W
12. A
13. F
14. E
15. W
16. A
17. F
18. E
19. W
20. A
21. F
22. E
23. W
24. A
25. F
26. E
27. W
28. A
29. F
30. E
31. W
32. A
33. F
34. E
35. W
36. A
37. F
38. E
39. W
40. A
41. F
42. E
43. W
44. A
45. F
46. E
47. W
48. A

[Mider T]

Ba Sing Se wasn't founded that long ago.

[ReikaiDemon]

0. Air - Aang
1. Fire - Roku
2. Earth - Kyoshi
3. Water - Kuruk
4. Air - Yangchen
5. F
6. E
7. W
8. A
9. F
10. E
11. W
12. A
13. F
14. E
15. W
16. A
17. F
18. E
19. W
20. A
21. F
22. E
23. W
24. A
25. F
26. E
27. W
28. A
29. F
30. E
31. W
32. A
33. F
34. E
35. W
36. A
37. F
38. E
39. W
40. A
41. F
42. E
43. W
44. A
45. F
46. E
47. W
48. A
You know what's funny? It says "a few" over and over xD

[Dragonus Nesha]

You know what's funny? It says "a few" over and over xDYeah, I noticed after typing out 0-4. It helped in keeping the pattern straight.

I probably wouldn't have bothered trying to make the whole list if it hadn't. Initially, I intended to post only the correct avatar cycle.

[Nøøps]

Thanks man, ill change it to 50 :D
Yeah ba sing se is old, the earthking in the show is the 44th i think 46th earth king?
so yeah, oldness

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah, I noticed after typing out 0-4. It helped in keeping the pattern straight.

I probably wouldn't have bothered trying to make the whole list if it hadn't. Initially, I intended to post only the correct avatar cycle.
You didn't actually have to type all of it, you could use the list code, and copy and paste.

[Jove]

http://i36.tinypic.com/24xju6w.jpg



http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Mider T]

Thanks man, ill change it to 50 :D
Yeah ba sing se is old, the earthking in the show is the 44th i think 46th earth king?
so yeah, oldness

Kyoshi hint hint

[Dragonus Nesha]

You didn't actually have to type all of it, you could use the list code, and copy and paste.http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3312/trappeduraharavz5.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3312/trappeduraharavz5.jpg
lmao, you're all :U

[Nøøps]

http://i36.tinypic.com/24xju6w.jpg



http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

Where did you find this, haha.
We are pretty intense huh?
Melon lord cookie monster O_O
win

[RAGING BONER]

holy shit there's gonna be an Avatar prequel?! when?! :iria

[Dragonus Nesha]

Thanks man, ill change it to 50 :D
Yeah ba sing se is old, the earthking in the show is the 44th i think 46th earth king?:oh According to avatar.wikia (http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/52nd_Earth_King), Kuei was the 52nd Earth King. I'm not sure how accurate the site is though.

[Jove]

Avatar Wikia is rock solid. Anything found there can be cited with confidence. Kuei's the 52nd, according to the Nick.com episode guide for The Earth King.

Where did you find this, haha.
We are pretty intense huh?
Melon lord cookie monster O_O
win

http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/376918.html#cutid1

Sifting through the endless barrage of Supernatural, Glee, and Hetalia !Secrets, you sometimes come across some Avatar related ones.

[RAGING BONER]

man, there ain't gonna be no damn prequel u fuckin liars :pek

[Dragonus Nesha]

Avatar Wikia is rock solid. Anything found there can be cited with confidence. Kuei's the 52nd, according to the Nick.com episode guide for The Earth King.That's what I thought and hoped. :hmm
man, there ain't gonna be no damn prequel u fuckin liars :pekhttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8307/areyoubraindead.jpg

[masterriku]

man, there ain't gonna be no damn prequel u fuckin liars :pek

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ReikaiDemon]

man, there ain't gonna be no damn prequel u fuckin liars :pek
Yes there is :LOS

It'll be about the bending wars, and it involves a kid that looks like Fire Nation Aang, and his two friends,Sui and Di, otherwise known as Water and Earth. :LOS

[Misha-San]

What?? Im really confused right now

[masterriku]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z164/cloud1138/JUST_AS_PLANNED.jpg

[Lilykt7]

man, there ain't gonna be no damn prequel u fuckin liars :pek

This is why we scare off other potential fans Boner.

[Nøøps]

Ha, joo dee is earth... queen lulz.

[masterriku]

Hmm second page what will get people talking oh yeah I know.

We need to roast M.Night it's been awhile since we did that.

[Nøøps]

Ummm, he has lots of twists... o-O
Lets pray for flying monkeys in the movie!
lol

[Stark042]

Hmmm i have a nice name for this fire bender that looks like the air bender aang.........Flaang:awesome

Get it huh??:zaru

[Nøøps]

Best name ever O_O
And water aang can be...
Waang
:LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

So, the James Cameron Avatar movie trailers finally hits television...

I am reminded at how :facepalm I am over his bitching that took its rightful title away from our movie. Looks like a generic CG movie shit thing, wtf is wrong with you James? You had cinematic masterpieces, now you put your time into this turd?

[Jove]

So, the James Cameron Avatar movie trailers finally hits television...

I am reminded at how :facepalm I am over his bitching that took its rightful title away from our movie. Looks like a generic CG movie shit thing, wtf is wrong with you James? You had cinematic masterpieces, now you put your time into this turd?

I still don't understand how this is possible. First of all, it's an already established product. Second, this isn't uncommon in other mediums. The Beatles didn't sue The Replacements for ripping Let It Be, and we know Apple loves to go after everyone. What justification is there for movie titles to be treated differently?

[ReikaiDemon]

I still don't understand how this is possible. First of all, it's an already established product. Second, this isn't uncommon in other mediums. The Beatles didn't sue The Replacements for ripping Let It Be, and we know Apple loves to go after everyone. What justification is there for movie titles to be treated differently?
You know, it would be funny that if JC let us keep Avatar in the title, his movie gets more people, if THE REAL AVATAR MOVIE came out first. Either way, he's making a shitty Delgo/Ferngully movie that he touts as a masterpiece.

I bet he wants to confuse Avatar fans into watching his steaming, gold painted pile.

Then again, we may be thankful if the movie flops, then having it not named Avatar will save most of the scat from touching the main series.

[kitten320]

I don't understand why they won't make one more season. Too many things were left out and Zuko's question at the end just has to be answered!
Why to ask it if they didn't plan to answer it in the first place? They could have easily killed Ursa long time ago instead.

There really is a lot of material for another season, it might not be about saving the world this time but still.

Do you really expect that everyone will follow Zuko? Half of generals despiced him in his younger days, I doubt they will accept him now. There could be a lot of plotting against Zuko. And even though Ozai had lost his bending, he still has his brains in order to rule. Ozai could also secretly train like Iroh. Some guards also might be loyal to him.

Then there are Dai Li... who are they following now? If they went back to Long Feng, Earth Kingdom is in danger. Or they still have some loyalty for Azula?

Then comes Azula's isue. Yes she has lost her mind, but she still can get herself together. Ursa could be a main Push for it. Maybe she was able to escape and help Ozai to escape too? If so Ozai could betray her somewhere(since he never really cared) and that would start another inner conflict inside of her. Besides if Zuko had become good she also can. She still will have her mean character and it will take far more to make her better than it took for Zuko since she had sunk in darkness far more, but she still could do some good. In Beach episode she was trying to act as normal human and didn't bother to tell anyone that she was princess. If she had tried to be different herself, that means she really can change. All she needs is help, guidence and some love... from Ursa, Zuko, Mai and Ty Lee... Even Iroh could try.
It is hard to believe that a 14 year old girl will spent whole her life in clinic.

Then there goes Ty Lee and Kyoshi warriors. We could have better background about Kyoshi warriors and also find out how Ty Lee is doing in new surroundngs.

Now there is Mai who obviously became a fire lady but is she happy? Mai is a type of person who loves action and not sitting on place and fill in the papers. If something would happen or Ozai and Azula had escaped, she might want to take part in search parties and stuff. Zuko obviously will be against what will arise a conflict between them. I would love to see them dealing with problems like this.

Also I really can't believe that whole their lifes Mai and Ty Lee were following Azula only because of fear. I do believe that at some point they did care and did treat her as a friend especially Ty Lee. She was probably the closest person to Azula if not to count Ozai.
If they didn't care why did they become friends in first place? Hard to belive that Azula did something like "Be my friend or die". She is evil and all but like this? I doubt she would trust them if that was the case.

And Aang? What is he doing when he doesn't need to save the world now? Maybe he had found some airbenders?

Toph? I doubt that she went back to her parents, so what is she doing? Travelling on her own? After all she does hate to sit on place, almost like Mai.

Also better background on Ursa and whole family, not only Zuko based. Zuko had mentioned that their family used to be happy. So what drove Ozai to become evil? How did Azula start to become evil? If family was happy that means she wasn't always evil. Was Ursa distant from her from the begining? Were it Ozai's orders for Ursa to stay away from Azula?
Actually this ime it is Azula who needs better background. In 2nd season we were made to believe that she was pure evil from birth and yet in 3rd season we saw that she also had her inner isues which she kept to herself. Besides in one of the flashbacks she and Zuko were actually having fun without trying to kill each other.
Where is Ursa and what was she doing this whole time? How did she kill a great Fire Lord Azulon who obviously had to be guarded all the time as well.

And so on and so on... If to look even deeperd that could be enough material to create even season 5.

So really what does stop Nickeldean to continue series? Don't they want more money?

[Eunectes]

I don't understand why they won't make one more season. Too many things were left out and Zuko's question at the end just has to be answered!
Why to ask it if they didn't plan to answer it in the first place? They could have easily killed Ursa long time ago instead.

There really is a lot of material for another season, it might not be about saving the world this time but still.

Do you really expect that everyone will follow Zuko? Half of generals despiced him in his younger days, I doubt they will accept him now. There could be a lot of plotting against Zuko. And even though Ozai had lost his bending, he still has his brains in order to rule. Ozai could also secretly train like Iroh. Some guards also might be loyal to him.

Then there are Dai Li... who are they following now? If they went back to Long Feng, Earth Kingdom is in danger. Or they still have some loyalty for Azula?

Then comes Azula's isue. Yes she has lost her mind, but she still can get herself together. Ursa could be a main Push for it. Maybe she was able to escape and help Ozai to escape too? If so Ozai could betray her somewhere(since he never really cared) and that would start another inner conflict inside of her. Besides if Zuko had become good she also can. She still will have her mean character and it will take far more to make her better than it took for Zuko since she had sunk in darkness far more, but she still could do some good. In Beach episode she was trying to act as normal human and didn't bother to tell anyone that she was princess. If she had tried to be different herself, that means she really can change. All she needs is help, guidence and some love... from Ursa, Zuko, Mai and Ty Lee... Even Iroh could try.
It is hard to believe that a 14 year old girl will spent whole her life in clinic.

Then there goes Ty Lee and Kyoshi warriors. We could have better background about Kyoshi warriors and also find out how Ty Lee is doing in new surroundngs.

Now there is Mai who obviously became a fire lady but is she happy? Mai is a type of person who loves action and not sitting on place and fill in the papers. If something would happen or Ozai and Azula had escaped, she might want to take part in search parties and stuff. Zuko obviously will be against what will arise a conflict between them. I would love to see them dealing with problems like this.

Also I really can't believe that whole their lifes Mai and Ty Lee were following Azula only because of fear. I do believe that at some point they did care and did treat her as a friend especially Ty Lee. She was probably the closest person to Azula if not to count Ozai.
If they didn't care why did they become friends in first place? Hard to belive that Azula did something like "Be my friend or die". She is evil and all but like this? I doubt she would trust them if that was the case.

And Aang? What is he doing when he doesn't need to save the world now? Maybe he had found some airbenders?

Toph? I doubt that she went back to her parents, so what is she doing? Travelling on her own? After all she does hate to sit on place, almost like Mai.

Also better background on Ursa and whole family, not only Zuko based. Zuko had mentioned that their family used to be happy. So what drove Ozai to become evil? How did Azula start to become evil? If family was happy that means she wasn't always evil. Was Ursa distant from her from the begining? Were it Ozai's orders for Ursa to stay away from Azula?
Actually this ime it is Azula who needs better background. In 2nd season we were made to believe that she was pure evil from birth and yet in 3rd season we saw that she also had her inner isues which she kept to herself. Besides in one of the flashbacks she and Zuko were actually having fun without trying to kill each other.
Where is Ursa and what was she doing this whole time? How did she kill a great Fire Lord Azulon who obviously had to be guarded all the time as well.

And so on and so on... If to look even deeperd that could be enough material to create even season 5.

So really what does stop Nickeldean to continue series? Don't they want more money?
Wasn,t it pretty much confirmd that Aang is the last airbender:huh
Anyway most of the things you named aren,t that interesting(or atleast not for me) i don,t realy like Azula turning good it is kind of bland and cheap writing if you ask me. In the series she was portrayed as a power hungry and evil badass chick turning her into a Zuko would ruin her character.
Also i am not all that interested in the Zuko familie backstory stuff except maby for the mom who we didn,t see al that much. Explaining why they are evil would also kind of ruin it because real life jerks most of the time don,t have a fleshed out reason why they are jerks, they just are. Not everything has to be explained in great detail, it wil become boring and slow if we folow these characters 24/7. But if there has to be a new season i guess a prequel will be good to get al the unexplained bullshit out of the way. And maby Zuko,s search for his mother anyway i would not like it if they milk the franchise till the point where it sucks. The creators gave me a pretty good ending to the series and i wouldn,t want to look back and look at how crappy the show has gotten afther the ending.:((Like Starwars) I know you said you only wanted one season but what will be stopping them to make another one and another and another one until there is nothing interesting in Avatar any more.
This is not meant to bash you or anything but it is just my opinion on the whole case.:kthumb

[kitten320]

Wasn,t it pretty much confirmd that Aang is the last airbender:huh
Anyway most of the things you named aren,t that interesting(or atleast not for me) i don,t realy like Azula turning good it is kind of bland and cheap writing if you ask me. In the series she was portrayed as a power hungry and evil badass chick turning her into a Zuko would ruin her character.
Also i am not all that interested in the Zuko familie backstory stuff except maby for the mom who we didn,t see al that much. Explaining why they are evil would also kind of ruin it because real life jerks most of the time don,t have a fleshed out reason why they are jerks, they just are. Not everything has to be explained in great detail, it wil become boring and slow if we folow these characters 24/7. But if there has to be a new season i guess a prequel will be good to get al the unexplained bullshit out of the way. And maby Zuko,s search for his mother anyway i would not like it if they milk the franchise till the point where it sucks. The creators gave me a pretty good ending to the series and i wouldn,t want to look back and look at how crappy the show has gotten afther the ending.:((Like Starwars) I know you said you only wanted one season but what will be stopping them to make another one and another and another one until there is nothing interesting in Avatar any more.
This is not meant to bash you or anything but it is just my opinion on the whole case.:kthumb

Yeh I guess you have a point. Well not turn Azula completly into good person, that really would ruin her. I like her devilish side. But she could have some good characteristics. She could be a tease instead of a bully :P
Well in Ozai's case I guess he didn't really need a reason. He was power obessed and probably saw an opportunity somewhere. Iroh always said that he was a hard person. So yeh flashback on him isn't really needed. But some back stories still are needed.

Who knows, maybe airbenders were hiding in some secret place along with Ursa or something smile-big
They don't have to be there.

Those were just suggestions as on what animators could actually work. If to think deeper I could give better versions :wink

Nope, I wouldn't want Avatar to have another set of seasons. That really would ruin everything. All I want is a clearer ending with some explanations that were left out. Most important part is Zuko's mother. Right from 2nd season I expected Zuko to find her and in the end we were left completly with nothing... 1 more season definetly is requiered. No need for season 5 and more. Only season 4 or a movie to clarify some things.

Prequel? I heard it probably will be Zuko based... I like Zuko and all but if he will get a prequel about himself, that will be too much :oh
I mean Zuko particulary turned into main character and we know about him far more than all characters put together, won't it be too much for him? :oh
I would like a prequel for other characters then too.

[Eunectes]

Yeh I guess you have a point. Well not turn Azula completly into good person, that really would ruin her. I like her devilish side. But she could have some good characteristics. She could be a tease instead of a bully :P
Well in Ozai's case I guess he didn't really need a reason. He was power obessed and probably saw an opportunity somewhere. Iroh always said that he was a hard person. So yeh flashback on him isn't really needed. But some back stories still are needed.

Who knows, maybe airbenders were hiding in some secret place along with Ursa or something smile-big
They don't have to be there.

Those were just suggestions as on what animators could actually work. If to think deeper I could give better versions :wink

Nope, I wouldn't want Avatar to have another set of seasons. That really would ruin everything. All I want is a clearer ending with some explanations that were left out. Most important part is Zuko's mother. Right from 2nd season I expected Zuko to find her and in the end we were left completly with nothing... 1 more season definetly is requiered. No need for season 5 and more. Only season 4 or a movie to clarify some things.

Prequel? I heard it probably will be Zuko based... I like Zuko and all but if he will get a prequel about himself, that will be too much :oh
I mean Zuko particulary turned into main character and we know about him far more than all characters put together, won't it be too much for him? :oh
I would like a prequel for other characters then too.
I don,t think there are any airbenders left.After the fire nation went on a killing spree and killed most of them they would most likely not use there power anymore and probely not teach there kids it because it would put them in danger.Anyway i think Aang is the last true airbender because he accutaly learned it from real airbenders since i doubt that there are stil master airbenders around, they are most likely killed or died of old age.
Also i hope the Zuko prequel is joke we already have most of Zuko,s past there isn,t much left to tell. I rather see the origin of the airbenders or bending in general.:iria

[Nøøps]

Watch out Jove, kittens posts are pretty long.
I think you need to show him who is the avatar debate master :LOS

[kitten320]

I don,t think there are any airbenders left.After the fire nation went on a killing spree and killed most of them they would most likely not use there power anymore and probely not teach there kids it because it would put them in danger.Anyway i think Aang is the last true airbender because he accutaly learned it from real airbenders since i doubt that there are stil master airbenders around, they are most likely killed or died of old age.
Also i hope the Zuko prequel is joke we already have most of Zuko,s past there isn,t much left to tell. I rather see the origin of the airbenders or bending in general.:iria

I guess I'll have to agree about airbenders. Aang and Katara will have to change it though :P
Uhu, we know almost everything about him. I heard that if prequel will be about Zuko then it will include his 3 years of banishment before Aang's appearence. But as you said we know more than enough so I'm not really interested in Zuko's prequel either.

I'm not really interested in air bending, I actually found it the most boring one... but that's just me.
But I wouldn't mind to see some past about them as well as the moment Aang had left and Fire Nation had destroyed them.

Watch out Jove, kittens posts are pretty long.
I think you need to show him who is the avatar debate master :LOS

I'm she :P
Nah, we already understood each other :amuse

[Jove]

I'm secure in my grandiosity. I do wonder what all these spoiler tags are about.

[kitten320]

I'm secure in my grandiosity. I do wonder what all these spoiler tags are about.

Just saving a lot of space, otherwise they are absulutely safe :wink

[stab-o-tron5000]

Are the spoiler tags really necessary? The show's been over for a year.

OH well...

As far as Azula goes. I wouldn't be adverse to her redeeming herself as long as it's handled well. Just because she's "good" doesn't mean she has to be nice. She could still be an arrogant bitch without being evil.

She could pull through her breakdown with the realization that her father's path isn't the right way (look where it led him). That doesn't mean she'd suddenly be going off on adventures with the Gaang or anything, she'd justy have her priorities re-adjusted.

[kitten320]

Are the spoiler tags really necessary? The show's been over for a year.

OH well...

As far as Azula goes. I wouldn't be adverse to her redeeming herself as long as it's handled well. Just because she's "good" doesn't mean she has to be nice. She could still be an arrogant bitch without being evil.

She could pull through her breakdown with the realization that her father's path isn't the right way (look where it led him). That doesn't mean she'd suddenly be going off on adventures with the Gaang or anything, she'd justy have her priorities re-adjusted.

No, they are not necceserry. My post was just way too huge to be left on it's own :)

And yep, that's exactly what I wanted to say. She will be good and evil at the same time. You have explained far better than me, so thanks :amuse

EDIT: Actually if to compare Azula could be something similar to Temari and Anko from Naruto as well as Soi Fon from Bleach. All 3 of them are a bitchy type and yet they are postive characters.

[Marisuki]

Azula in the movie, we are going to be waiting awhile till we see that. I can't wait though.

[Koi]

So ridiculously behind on this thread. I USED to have hope for this movie..! And then.. movie!Iroh happened. :\

[Misha-San]

I havent seen movie Iroh yet 0_o Is he that bad?

edit: Nevermind I saw him he doesnt look like iroh......=[

[kitten320]

Azula in the movie, we are going to be waiting awhile till we see that. I can't wait though.

Yeh same her, hope she will look more like actuall character than all others :oh
I'm also worried for Mai and Toph.



Yeh I saw Iroh, the reason why he isn't fat is because they didn't want to use fat man suit.
Actually he doesn't look that bad... differently but not bad... although role of a bad guy would suit him more with such looks.

[Nøøps]

Dont concern appearances, acting talent is the thing that worries me most.

[Misha-San]

Maybe we are going are wrong and it turns out to be a kick ass movie. I hope we are wrong.....

[ReikaiDemon]

Is it just me, or did JC stole the FONT OF AVATAR TOO?!

[Koi]

Papyrus..?

[Nøøps]

Guys lets not turn into the diehard fans who hate a live adaptation because it doesnt look EXACTLY like the cartoon. Ive seen it happen too often.

[ReikaiDemon]

Guys lets not turn into the diehard fans who hate a live adaptation because it doesnt look EXACTLY like the cartoon. Ive seen it happen too often.
...
We were talking about the stupid James Cameron movie...

[masterriku]

You guys talking about dances with smurfs? yeah I wonder if it will be a good film.

[Shadow]

I only caught a couple of episodes but very excited about the movie.

[Nøøps]

...
We were talking about the stupid James Cameron movie...

I wasn't
:LOS

[stab-o-tron5000]

Guys lets not turn into the diehard fans who hate a live adaptation because it doesnt look EXACTLY like the cartoon. Ive seen it happen too often.

Then can I complain about it because the movie doesn't look ANYTHING like the cartoon?

-All the Chinese writing have been removed and replaced with a made up language.

-All the lead roles, for a movie based on a show set in an Asian fantasy world, have been filled (originally) by an entirely Caucasian cast. McCarthy bowed out due to scheduling conflicts with his concert touring dates (and, in what I'm sure was a complete and total coincidence, happen to coincide with the fans rising protest about the casting. Cause, let's face it, Agents for a big name star often totally forget about major, several month long, cross country tours that just happen to be going on at the same time as the filming of the major motion picture you just signed your guy up for. Just totally slipped his mind).

-Cliff Curtis, the guy playing Ozai, described his wardrobe as being "Roman-Greco" in design.

-Gene Simmons (lead singer for KISS) has apparently been asked to do the voice of a "spirit Dragon" that is, most likely, taking the place of Avatar Roku in the series.

The rocker's trademark tones are currently in demand in Tinseltown - he's already landed another voice-over job. The bassist adds, "I was asked to do the voice of the Dragon Spirit in M. Night Shyamalan’s forthcoming Airbender movie. This may or may not come to fruition. We’ll see.”

-Firebenders may no longer be able to make fire on their own, which I guess means Sozin's Comet will allow them to basically be what they were in the show.

-Shamalamanamamlayn has specifically said that he's grounding Sokka! The comic relief, the witty guy, "Meat and sarcasm guy"!

[ReikaiDemon]

Then can I complain about it because the movie doesn't look ANYTHING like the cartoon?

-All the Chinese writing have been removed and replaced with a made up language.

-All the lead roles, for a movie based on a show set in an Asian fantasy world, have been filled (originally) by an entirely Caucasian cast. McCarthy bowed out due to scheduling conflicts with his concert touring dates (and, in what I'm sure was a complete and total coincidence, happen to coincide with the fans rising protest about the casting. Cause, let's face it, Agents for a big name star often totally forget about major, several month long, cross country tours that just happen to be going on at the same time as the filming of the major motion picture you just signed your guy up for. Just totally slipped his mind).

-Cliff Curtis, the guy playing Ozai, described his wardrobe as being "Roman-Greco" in design.

-Gene Simmons (lead singer for KISS) has apparently been asked to do the voice of a "spirit Dragon" that is, most likely, taking the place of Avatar Roku in the series.



-Firebenders may no longer be able to make fire on their own, which I guess means Sozin's Comet will allow them to basically be what they were in the show.

-Shamalamanamamlayn has specifically said that he's grounding Sokka! The comic relief, the witty guy, "Meat and sarcasm guy"!
THEY REMOVED THE CHINESE?! :EXTREMELYMAD

*MEGARAGES*

THEY SUCKED ALL THE CULTURE OUT OF AVATAR NOW!!!!