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ReikaiDemon
06-27-2009, 12:41 AM
I just wanted to say, yay 600 :LOS
I see 300 pages instead.
Kusuriuri
06-27-2009, 12:42 AM
I see 300 pages instead.
You have 40 posts per page. I have 20 and I see 600 pages.
Hiroko
06-27-2009, 01:23 AM
I'm not believing that's Azula until I see a cast listing on imdb. Even then it's up for debate.
But now someone needs to explain to me why she would make a good choice for Azula. Explain that to me and make sure it's congruent with why everyone else is a horrible choice for their character. And don't forget to explain why it's okay for the princess in the Indian family to be white.
EDIT: Managed to skip Teagan's double post (how the hell?). I get that it's a joke, but I still want an explanation.
An explanation of what? That is wouldn't be surprising for Shamafail to turn the all powerful Azula into a sex object?
And as to explain your former inquiries--my reason is simple: there are no white people in ATLA. Can you say whitewash? There was nothing wrong with the original ethnicity of the show, but instead of staying true to the story, the producers of this sham didn't think it would sell. I having nothing against the actors, I have everything against the people who cast them for those roles.
Who's the actor?
That would be Shaun Toub. This would be Shaun Toub:
http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/10/01/previews/Shaun%20Toub%20-ALO-027885.jpg
Several weeks ago, an extra on the set was providing information to the Lastairbenderfans.com forums. He was a complete idiot and an apologist for the film, but he did give us some useful stuff. And one of those was that Toub's not wearing a fat suit or anything. It's just him... :notrust
I see 300 pages instead.
You pulled this when we celebrated 500. :pek
..he's NOT wearing a fat suit? OH COME ON!!!!
Hiroko
06-27-2009, 01:49 AM
He better be calling Jared Leto up on how to put some jello in that trunk. :pek
Hiroko
06-27-2009, 01:55 AM
BIG BOOBY IROH, TOO. :C
And that deadly poison / delicious tea better be in there. :C
I feel that we better start a petition right now for Hawky and Wang Fiiyah. You trust M. Night not to cut them out?! :pek
ReikaiDemon
06-27-2009, 02:24 AM
I feel that we better start a petition right now for Hawky and Wang Fiiyah. You trust M. Night not to cut them out?! :pek
Wang Fiyah would be win, but Hawky would be ugly CG work, and will have grating voice provided by a washed up celebrity. In a sense, Hawky would be the Sokka, and Sokka will be emo, like how the Prince of Persia in the Ubisoft trilogy became an unlikable bastard in Warrior Within.
Thank God for the Two Thrones.
An explanation of what? That is wouldn't be surprising for Shamafail to turn the all powerful Azula into a sex object?
And as to explain your former inquiries--my reason is simple: there are no white people in ATLA. Can you say whitewash? There was nothing wrong with the original ethnicity of the show, but instead of staying true to the story, the producers of this sham didn't think it would sell. I having nothing against the actors, I have everything against the people who cast them for those roles.
Yeah, I get what a whitewash is. But since this is going to happen with every adaptation that Eastern or influenced by the east for a good while, I'm just accepting it and looking at it for what it is. Stupid M.Night is the problem, as far as I'm concerned.
Since you were just messing around, my question doesn't really apply to you. It applies to the handful who condemn Dev, but turn around and say a 23 year old white girl would make a decent Azula. I want to know what the thought process for that is.
As far as skinny Iroh goes...I'm a little disappointed, but only a little. I like Toub, so I'm not going to cry about it too much. He'll do fine, he just won't be the fat old man we're used to.
The real question is who the hell is gonna be Bumi?
Wang Fiyah would be win, but Hawky would be ugly CG work, and will have grating voice provided by a washed up celebrity. In a sense, Hawky would be the Sokka, and Sokka will be emo, like how the Prince of Persia in the Ubisoft trilogy became an unlikable bastard in Warrior Within.
Thank God for the Two Thrones.
There is a real-life Hawky out there. I know there is. There has to be.
ReikaiDemon
06-27-2009, 02:38 AM
There is a real-life Hawky out there. I know there is. There has to be.
Tough luck denotes that if Hawky was in the movie, he'd be an American Bald Eagle
...
Voiced by Billy Crystal
Tough luck denotes that if Hawky was in the movie, he'd be an American Bald Eagle
...
Voiced by Billy Crystal
Billy Crystal is a crime punishable by death. Even I couldn't forgive that.
kumabear
06-27-2009, 03:06 AM
M Night Shimmyshimmy is casting this movie like shit.
Indian Zuko, really?
Superstarseven
06-27-2009, 05:28 AM
Yep! The rest of his family are supposed to be Indian too except that Shaun Toub is Iranian and Cliff Curtis is Maori.
I wonder who the actor for Iroh would have been had McCartney stuck around since you would have to cast around his race. The only white actor who pulled off wise Kung Fu sage was David Carradine.
I'm going to just voice my opinion here and say that Aang looks just about as Asian as Naruto. Seriously, the kid's probably the very least Asian character in the series. The casting for Aang has never bothered me.
ReikaiDemon
06-27-2009, 08:50 PM
I'm going to just voice my opinion here and say that Aang looks just about as Asian as Naruto. Seriously, the kid's probably the very least Asian character in the series. The casting for Aang has never bothered me.
That goes for just about almost every other anime character ever, who claim to be Japanese or other sort of asian/pacific island ethnicity.
But, Aang doesn't look as Asian because in animation, large eyes are a preferable style for the type of character Aang is. At least no one in Avatar has crazy colored hair
Man, I just seen the cast for the Prince of Persia movie....
Take our conversation about the Avatar movie for the year, switch some names around
Kusuriuri
06-27-2009, 08:55 PM
That would be Shaun Toub. This would be Shaun Toub:
http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/10/01/previews/Shaun%20Toub%20-ALO-027885.jpg
Several weeks ago, an extra on the set was providing information to the Lastairbenderfans.com forums. He was a complete idiot and an apologist for the film, but he did give us some useful stuff. And one of those was that Toub's not wearing a fat suit or anything. It's just him... :notrust
...........:apathy
Merv The Perv
06-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Well, the movie isn't out yet, and the trailer looked pretty okay (except for Aang's arrow), but we can't exactly judge whether or not the actors or M. Night will do a good job.
Hiroko
06-27-2009, 09:29 PM
...........:apathy
LOL. Poor Memos. He is disappoint. :Jet
Kusuriuri
06-27-2009, 09:33 PM
I am very disappoint. I having Dragonball nightmares :-(
masterriku
06-28-2009, 01:17 AM
I feel for you Kusu.
Zero x
06-28-2009, 02:27 AM
I am very disappoint. I having Dragonball nightmares :-(
at least the trailer for this movie looked good...and at least this movie will have some reputable actors...
whereas the trailers, screenshots/wallpapers, actors and everything related to the DB movie just looked horrendous in every way possible...
Zen-aku
06-28-2009, 03:31 AM
at least the trailer for this movie looked good...and at least this movie will have some reputable actors...
whereas the trailers, screenshots/wallpapers, actors and everything related to the DB movie just looked horrendous in every way possible...
Piccolo looked Awsome:(
Hiroko
06-28-2009, 04:05 AM
Piccolo looked like a villain from Power Rangers. The first season. :pek
ReikaiDemon
06-28-2009, 04:06 AM
at least the trailer for this movie looked good...and at least this movie will have some reputable actors...
whereas the trailers, screenshots/wallpapers, actors and everything related to the DB movie just looked horrendous in every way possible...I heard Toriyama was bewildered at the script when they let him read it. If he wasn't Japanese, he'd be a lot less polite about it.
Shame that the actor for Goku was such a big fan of the series, which ironically cast him in the stink eye of countless fans.
The trailers of Avatar are better because
Avatar is relatively new, whereas the movie for DB was in development hell for about a decade.
Avatar is much more easier to establish a recognizable archetype of themes and elements, DB on the other hand is ambiguously modern, yet asian, particularly the Chinese elements. However, DBZ has been off the air for a good number of years, many people are no longer familiar with it.
Fox can eat an acre of dicks, this isn't the first bitch move they pulled in film adaptations. I theorize that perhaps they meant to do the same thing to DBZ that they did to The Watchmen, that is to buy the movie rights to an adaptation, sit on it for YEARS, until SOMEONE ELSE makes the movie, pull a bitch move by slapping a lawsuit in the faces of the producer. Thus Fox got distrobution rights, even though WB made The Watchmen movie. Fox sat on the Watchmen rights for 20 years, long enough for anyone to forget. Avatar fotunately has a marginally less dickish studio making it.
But here are my other points on why the movie may very well suck
Hollywood doesn't give a fuck about what anyone likes, they give a big sloppy fuck about what the everyone likes, namely, those in the popcorn crowd, those who just turn out cash for tickets to watch a movie they're going to forget about in a few days, those who could care less about the movie's message, and watch movies as a fruitless distraction and think no further about it.
We're in a damn recession, this makes them care even less about the fans, and more about selling it as a franchise. If DB was any indication, they make the ass handed decision to make DBE, the movie, the game. Is that not so damn ridiculous to make a game based on the subpar movie adaptation, that it itself is an adaptation of an adaptation, of another adaptation? The only reason why anyone goes in this roundabout jackass parade is to capitalize on the sucess of what the names accomplished.It's just too damn easy to make a movie on something everybody has already seen, which brings me to my next point.
Hollywood is full of pussies, they'd rather make money on something everybody already knows about, rather than to take a risk, and make something new. Hollywood is the pussy ground of the pussies of the pussiest pussy order. Which is why time after time again, there will be countless more James Bond movies, more television show adaptation, and more movies with the subtitle "THE MOVIE" slapped on it. There will be remakes of remakes of adaptations of other remakes, which again is a remake of ITSELF. Hell I remember there was a movie based on a book, which in turn had a NOVELIZATION OF THE MOVIE. :facepalm Oh hey, I made it this far without using a smilie.
The Grudge, The Ring, The Eye, today's Hollywood HATES ASIANS AND THEIR LANGUAGE. Of course, that's a very gross oversimplification, but it still works.
Hollywood is pussies
You know what? Hollywood just about hates everyone. Well, everyone that's not a major celebrity, and to an extent, anyone who is not explicitly white.
Hollywood is pussies
The very act of dumbing down, this is self explanitory
HOLLYWOOD IS PUSSIES
HOLLYWOOD IS PUSSIES!
EDIT: I reiterate my theory, they make a suckage adaptation JUST so they can manage to reel in the fans too. No matter how bad an adaptation may be, it will always have insured a fanbase viewer.
Superstarseven
06-28-2009, 05:22 AM
Sorry if I'm late to the game but I've read some reviews of Dragonball:Evolution and apparently the term Airbending was used? Apparently it was applied to the Kamahameha.
I'm sure the word Airbending is pretty much exclusive to Avatar so it's a wonder why the screenwriter of this film put that in.
ReikaiDemon
06-28-2009, 05:31 AM
Sorry if I'm late to the game but I've read some reviews of Dragonball:Evolution and apparently the term Airbending was used? Apparently it was applied to the Kamahameha.
I'm sure the word Airbending is pretty much exclusive to Avatar so it's a wonder why the screenwriter of this film put that in.
That's so stupid, it'll be the only time I'll use the word retarded to express how stupid that is :facepalm (if it's true)
I can understand if they used that word to explain the Rasengan, but....
Blargh
Hiroko
06-28-2009, 06:10 AM
Airebending? :apathy
Such originality done by scriptwriter's these days. Kamehameha doesn't even use wind. :argh
Sunuvmann
06-28-2009, 08:50 PM
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2009/06/last-airbender-teaser-trailer
First teaser trailer.
Looks surprisingly decent. The movie may not be a complete train wreck after all. Maybe.
Welcome to 20 pages ago lolololol
(I still say his tat is sweet)
Welcome to 20 pages ago lolololol
Conjures memories of "HAS THE NEW EPISODE AIRED YET?!!!" three times a page, eh?
Conjures memories of "HAS THE NEW EPISODE AIRED YET?!!!" three times a page, eh?
And the "I HERD THAR WAS A BOOK4/NEW SERIES!" that would pop up about once a page until the trailer took over for June. It'll be back in July though. :notrust
One year ago, we were immersed in the Rewatch, and today was Toph's Day: The Swamp, Avatar Day, and The Blind Bandit. Such memories... :(
Hiroko
06-30-2009, 04:59 PM
I just got done reading that MN Shamwow interview. :apathy There's no way I can go to a theatre to see this. I'll just annoy everyone around me with how disgusted I am.
Dragonpiece
06-30-2009, 05:02 PM
Just wondering am I the only one who things this will turn out like dragon ball evolution?
For those unaware of what Teagan is referring to:
M. NIGHT SHYAMALAN: I have always wanted to develop a long mythology based franchise like THE LORD OF THE RINGS. I always thought about it, but I had, until now, never found a good one where I could also add a little bit of my personal vision. I really wanted to find a franchise where my accent could be complementary to the piece. So this was the best thing that could have happened is that I didn’t have a real agenda, but I was on the look for it and waited for the perfect situation.
I was offered other franchises, but passed. And then this one came from my own family – it was suggested by my children who loved the TV animated series. When I saw the cartoon I thought it was so well thought out in term of mythology. It had Buddhism, and martial Arts, and CGI [and it was] character based. And so I thought we could do a great job by using ILM and do something with lots of emotions and texture. I knew we could do something that wasn’t going to be just a great treat for the eyes, but also for the mind and the soul. This is my approach when it comes to getting into this type of material, to approach it through the characters and keep it grounded. It has also deeper issues at its core, it talks about Genocide and Balance, and the connection to the Planet. And you know from my other movies that I’m interested with these subject matters -- it’s an important movie, not just a blockbuster summer movie.
iF: Are you going to push for the political tone in this film as we’ve seen in your other films?
SHYAMALAN: Well, there is a lot in the mythology. What I did was remove anything that was too slap-sticky and cheesy -- the stuff that was there for the very little kids, but wouldn’t work in a live action feature like the fart jokes. I grounded the thing a little more. I grounded Katara’s brother for example [played by Nicola Peltz] and it brought a great new overall tone to the whole movie. But the political tone is for sure intact and the one about a culture who is in an industrial revolution and use their way in their belief system and then decide “we don’t need to follow the old way of thinking, the old way of seeing God”. And the movie focuses on a higher power and the spirit world. And so this culture decides that we can make our own machine and be our own God-- it was there in the cartoon, but more affirmed in our movie.
iF: The movie feels a little bit like it was inspired by the art of Hayao Miyazaki?
SHYAMALAN: Well, I’m a huge and giant fan of his work and I had the chance to meet him and go to his studio when I did my last promotional tour for THE HAPPENING. My favorite is SPIRITED AWAY. He is amazing, but to be honest, the film was more influenced by martial arts movies in general. What is funny is that you can see so many influences in the cartoon with scenes almost copied entirely from martial art movies, but I wanted the live action film to be truly original with action scenes you had never seen before. I’m a huge martial art freak. I even have a Bruce Lee statue in my office!
iF: What was the biggest challenge for you before and during the making of this film?
SHYAMALAN: It’s been a great on-going experience both as a director and a human being. You know, I’m a complete control freak. I love the idea of controlling everything that is in the composition of every single frame and I feel pain if I look at a frame and it’s not perfect. But with this movie, where there are so much factors going on, it taught me to let go and not be in such a control freak mode. It’s two and half times compared to my other movies. It feels like I’m a student again and I’m learning new things, new tricks and for me this is the way to get a great movie, when you’re a student again. You learn again and you’re open to everything again. I think I have become a much better director with the process of filming THE LAST AIRBENDER and not controlling 400 extras and all the action scenes. But in a way I’m scared to death because it’s such a huge endeavor. I hope this film will find its own personality and that the whole world will appreciate it.
iF: When did you realize, “wow, this is an insane film!”?
SHYAMALAN: Right away when we were filming in Greenland. It was great filming over there and if I had the all money in the world I would have filmed this movie on location around the world -- but that would be so expensive. It was great shooting in Greenland, in the tundra and to see the actors moving. It felt so real. This is when I realized this was an amazing movie. Also, when I saw the army coming in the village I was overwhelmed by the size and the scope of this film.
iF: Can you talk about casting for this film?
SHYAMALAN: It was a real trick to find the perfect cast, because not only did I need excellent actors, but also great action driven fighters. There are so many fight scenes in this film, that this was a cruel experience to locate and find the right team of actors and actresses. I was so lucky to have this young actor Dev Patel [who plays Prince Zuko]. He is now known worldwide due to the success and Oscars for SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE. He is so vulnerable and so strong at the same time and this was the perfect mix to play Zuko. I had auditioned him for the role before the Oscar success and I wasn’t sure if I could get him after, but he wanted to be part of this film and I’m blessed. He is like a man-child and this is perfect. Another blessing was to find Noah Riger who plays Aang, the Avatar, the principal hero of our movie. He is a young 12-year-old and a true martial arts expert with several titles. He teacher encouraged him to send us a demo tape and we were blown away by his presence, his grace and his technique. And after we sent him to be trained a little bit as an actor we knew we had found the perfect Aang. He is so similar to the Aang in the cartoons and with this great cast I was then able to build a natural structure for the movie itself. When you look at the whole TV series, you can see clearly the three movies I want to create as live action adaptations. Also this is great to be able to incorporate all along the clear philosophy that lies at the core of this mythology and how each element, Air, Earth, Water and Fire are so important as a balance for yourself.
iF: How does this compare to the STAR WARS trilogy?
SHYAMALAN: Wow, this is hard to compare it to STAR WARS. STAR WARS is true religion to me. I can understand what people who are into religion feel when I think about STAR WARS, but if I can make a comparison, it is with the notion of “journey” both trilogies have. THE LAST AIRBENDER is truly the journey of this young maverick boy, Aaang. His journey is similar to the one of Luke Skywalker.
iF: The movie is about the balance of the four elements, what element do you identify to and why?
SHYAMALAN: I think AIR is my element, because I always try to do things with the minimum amount of effort. I like things clean and simple.
iF: What do your children think about this film?
SHYAMALAN: They totally dig it and they were great advisers at telling what to do or not to do.
iF: Will there ever be a sequel to UNBREAKABLE?
SHYAMALAN: Well, I’m not sure where all the pieces of the puzzle are these days. Sam [Jackson] is Mister Comic Book and doing bigger things. Bruce [Willis] is hard to reach and what kind of movies he wants to do. But, hey, who knows -- maybe one day we’ll figure it out.
http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=3413
I don't find it too distressing; but when he says, "I’m a huge martial art freak. I even have a Bruce Lee statue in my office!" it sounds eerily similar to McCartney's babbling about fighting ninjas.
Hiroko
06-30-2009, 05:45 PM
Well, there is a lot in the mythology. What I did was remove anything that was too slap-sticky and cheesy -- the stuff that was there for the very little kids, but wouldn’t work in a live action feature like the fart jokes.
It's called a film for the ages. :edu
I grounded the thing a little more. I grounded Katara’s brother for example [played by Nicola Peltz] and it brought a great new overall tone to the whole movie.
I cannot get over this statement.
But the political tone is for sure intact and the one about a culture who is in an industrial revolution and use their way in their belief system and then decide “we don’t need to follow the old way of thinking, the old way of seeing God”. And the movie focuses on a higher power and the spirit world. And so this culture decides that we can make our own machine and be our own God-- it was there in the cartoon, but more affirmed in our movie.
What the hell is he talking about with God? Does he have to bring God into this, really? The spirit world is enough. If anyone is godlike in this series, it is Aang, not the people. There is a mystique and beauty to the spirit world in Avatar that I fear he is going to ruin with his "vision." The mechanical revolution is what is driving the war onward; it isn't about the people thinking they have evolved to a godlike status. The machinery used by the FN and the like represent power not of the divine nature.
Did he even speak to the Avatar creators before doing this? How can they sign off on some of this shit?
What the hell is he talking about with God? Does he have to bring God into this, really? The spirit world is enough. If anyone is godlike in this series, it is Aang, not the people. There is a mystique and beauty to the spirit world in Avatar that I fear he is going to ruin with his "vision." The mechanical revolution is what is driving the war onward; it isn't about the people thinking they have evolved to a godlike status. The machinery used by the FN and the like represent power not of the divine nature.
Did he even speak to the Avatar creators before doing this? How can they sign off on some of this shit?
I was going to point that gem out as well. Looks like he's going to "ground" Sokka in order to take the fun out of the show, and exaggerate the subtle politics of the show. And I mean exaggerate. I also mean distort; The Fire Nation's motive was Imperial, not theological. This deserves a Sokka facepalm: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png
Maybe I should be more disquieted by this interview.
Kusuriuri
06-30-2009, 07:22 PM
I grounded the thing a little more. I grounded Katara’s brother for example [played by Nicola Peltz] and it brought a great new overall tone to the whole movie.
This line makes me wonder if he even remembered Sokka's name.
Superstarseven
06-30-2009, 08:53 PM
Did he even speak to the Avatar creators before doing this? How can they sign off on some of this shit?
Back up for a second, how much power do you think they have over the production of this film? Send any and all complaints to Viacom or Nickelodeon Movies.
Banhammer
06-30-2009, 09:21 PM
s, but wouldn’t work in a live action feature like the fart jokes.
NOT THE FART JOKES :uwah
Hiroko
06-30-2009, 09:32 PM
This line makes me wonder if he even remembered Sokka's name.
He probably thought it was a childish name and changed it. :apathy
Back up for a second, how much power do you think they have over the production of this film? Send any and all complaints to Viacom or Nickelodeon Movies.
It just seems like they handed over the rights and said "Have fun Shyamalamba! :iria" That's all I'm saying. It just doesn't seem like they asked a lot of questions about what he was going to do with it. He's taken someone else's vision and contorted it to fit his own, and that's just not respectful of any of the fans (which he believes to be 10 years old or younger) of the show. You read his words; he wants an epic LOTR-esque tale. He reaches too far, I say. Avatar is a story all it's own. There isn't anything wrong with it.
I guess when you see the how the people who produce the HP films feel about the original story and how they strive to stay close to it, seeing Shyama's approach makes me sick.
Hate to say it, but everyone involved has confirmed that Bryke's been involved from the beginning. They're slightly culpable.
But if it turns out well, it's all because of them and their influence. :edu
It really is a gamble for hardcore fans. If the movie performs exceedingly well, it could very well generate the support Mike and Bryan need for a second series. But it could also generate new possibilities for them and they'll move on.
We know that they were trying to get a second series, or at the very least beginning to craft one... it could be that the movie's performance has little effect either way on a new series. But I doubt it. A poor performance by the movie is going to look badly upon the franchise, in any way.
Kaenboshi
06-30-2009, 09:50 PM
Few things to say:
A) Never take a five day a week summer class.
B) I finally saw Lady in the Water a couple of weeks back. It was horrible. Absolutely horrible. The most amazing part is how Shamwow managed to take something that would have otherwise been a bland, sub par waste of time, and added two completely unnecessary elements that made it complete shit. And somehow he still wonders why he's a joke. http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9392/sokkapalm.png
C) Someone allegedy posted the original plot outline from the universe bible (http://plus4chan.org/boards/a/res/58561.html#59033). It's an interesting read to say the least.
What I did was remove anything that was too slap-sticky and cheesy -- the stuff that was there for the very little kids, but wouldn’t work in a live action feature like the fart jokes. So he removed some of the Book 3 jokes from Book 1? :huh
I think AIR is my element, because I always try to do things with the minimum amount of effort. I like things clean and simple. I think we've got a hint towards his next self insert.
This line makes me wonder if he even remembered Sokka's name.http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4800/040723mnightshyamalanbc.jpg
Hiroko
06-30-2009, 09:56 PM
I would love it if M&B could do a second series with a new Avatar. I'd love to see little things linking back to the original series throughout, etc. *sigh*
If 'Bryke' needs to generate more interest through this live action movie, then I hope they collaborate with Shyama to pull off something... decent.
C) Someone allegedy posted the original plot outline from the universe bible (http://plus4chan.org/boards/a/res/58561.html#59033). It's an interesting read to say the least.
I hate this person for completely ignoring Zuko's character arc through Book 1.
Few things to say:B) I finally saw Lady in the Water a couple of weeks back. It was horrible. Absolutely horrible. The most amazing part is how Shamwow managed to take something that would have otherwise been a bland, sub par waste of time, and added two completely unnecessary elements that made it complete shit. And somehow he still wonders why he's a joke. http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9392/sokkapalm.png
Lady in the Water is M. Night Shyamalan's tribute to the genius of M. Night Shyamalan. What's funny is that he obviously got halfway through writing an allegorical tale about how no one understands how brilliant he is, and then said "fuck symbolism." And made it a straightforward tale about what a maltreated genius he is. Without changing the first half.
This is the exact reason why I'm upset.
Kaenboshi
06-30-2009, 10:35 PM
Just remembered the other thing. Nickelodeon magazine is folding. (http://www.comicsreporter.com/index.php/nickelodeon_magazine_cancelled/) Supossedly, it will stop running by at latest the "end of the year." With it goes the Avatar comics, which had unfortunately have not yet covered either the Kuzon story or Bumi vs. Toph, and now may never get the chance.Lady in the Water is M. Night Shyamalan's tribute to the genius of M. Night Shyamalan. What's funny is that he obviously got halfway through writing an allegorical tale about how no one understands how brilliant he is, and then said "fuck symbolism." And made it a straightforward tale about what a maltreated genius he is. Without changing the first half.
This is the exact reason why I'm upset. Silly me. You are correct. There's also the problem that he made a character meant to "represent" those cynics who keep others down (read: don't slurp up Shyamalan's shit), and has every other character blame that character for everything that went wrong when he was right and their dumb asses just misinterpreted his point.
Superstarseven
06-30-2009, 11:04 PM
Hate to say it, but everyone involved has confirmed that Bryke's been involved from the beginning. They're slightly culpable.
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Well I remember Frank Marshall tweeting that they're not involved in day to day production. Of the 8 producers credited for this film, I believe they're doing the least. By that I mean nothing at all. I can't fault them for working on an outline with M. Night at the very beginning but after that it's all M. Night's vision.
Oh also, the Bumi Vs Toph comic was published, not up on Nick.com though. Search for the scans on photobucket.
Taurus Versant
06-30-2009, 11:12 PM
Bumi vs Toph :wtf
I think I need to read all these comics. Anywhere I can check them?
Italics
06-30-2009, 11:12 PM
The feeling I got from the interview transcripts - this sucks. STICK WITH THE STORY AS-IS YOU IDIOT!!! Grounding Sokka? You know, I just watched The Desert and lulzed at Sokka's little cactus trip. Why would you mess with that? Sokka's hysterical. I understand that not everything is going to translate into live action, but Sokka's crazy...it's who he is.
The creators of Avatar screwed up when they went live action. They could have (simply should have) retained creative rights and brought an animated feature to the screen. They have a tremendous fan base - and this is the format for them.
Animated features have never been more popular, the story is a great one, and the characters are amazing - everything is amazing.
If it's not broken, don't fix it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they're going in a bad direction. I don't think I'm seeing this little venture. IDK.
Kaenboshi
06-30-2009, 11:13 PM
http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/Eternal_Light55/Bumi%20Vs%20Toph%20Comic/ Found it. I'm just failing hard today.
Well I remember Frank Marshall tweeting that they're not involved in day to day production. Of the 8 producers credited for this film, I believe they're doing the least. By that I mean nothing at all. I can't fault them for working on an outline with M. Night at the very beginning but after that it's all M. Night's vision.
And I recall Marshall saying that Mike and Bryan were there at some point going over things. More than nothing, albeit not much more.
ReikaiDemon
06-30-2009, 11:41 PM
What ever happens, we still have the "A numbah ONE, Duke of New York, the Alpha, the Omega, the Earth shaka, Fighting the powah, RAW RAW" original Avatar series, and no one, not even the most overrated hack king of directors can take that away from us.
I don't remember any fart jokes. The only one I remember is -I think in Book 3- where Aang is squatting in the Spirit World and Katara and Sokka think he is using the bathroom. After that, I don't remember any.
Kaenboshi
07-01-2009, 12:17 AM
That and Hawky going on Sokka's hand. Hence why the statement is so perplexing since the humor only went that route during early Book 3. Aside from lolShyamalan.
That and Hawky going on Sokka's hand. Hence why the statement is so perplexing since the humor only went that route during early Book 3. Aside from lolShyamalan.
I KNEW HE'D CUT HAWKY!!!! :cussing :mad:mad
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 12:32 AM
Sokka shall be the Dark Knight in the edgy, more mature Avatar brought to you by Jambalaya
Ennoea
07-01-2009, 12:43 AM
Shamalamdingdong is the worst director they could have found, in the end it'll be revealed that Aang is dead and the fire nation was a myth made by the parents so their kids could be brought up as eskimos and not know the wonder of pop music.
Sokka shall be the Dark Knight in the edgy, more mature Avatar brought to you by Jambalaya
M. Night Shamwow is gonna have Sokka talk in a very deep voice. :C
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 01:25 AM
M. Night Shamwow is gonna have Sokka talk in a very deep voice. :C
Ozai shall be played by Heath Ledger's ghost
After all, Mark Hamill=Joker
Heath Ledger=Joker
Superstarseven
07-01-2009, 01:59 AM
Sifu Kisu, Martial arts consultant, decided to clear some things up about himself on the Avatar message boards. Quite insightful stuff about the show, I just love reading the behind the scenes stuff. Apparently he hasn't been asked (yet) to participate in the Avatar documentary so what he's been writing concerning the Martial arts through these posts takes care of that somewhat.
Anyway concerning his involvement on the film:
Hi there;
M. Night originally wanted me to train the actors and help with the Martial Arts in the film but well it didn't work out that way.
M. Night considers himself a martial art enthusiast as he has studied Kenpo for many years and he thinks outside the box as you can see from his body of work in film. One of the last conversations I had with one of his underlings was that "they decided to go in a different direction martial art wise"....
What do you think? 1970's era chop-socky Kung Fu for the bending or different styles for each element as in the show?
Well, read everything Kisu wrote here - http://forums.avatarspirit.net/index.php?topic=17315.0
Ozai shall be played by Heath Ledger's ghost
After all, Mark Hamill=Joker
Heath Ledger=Joker
lol, Mark Hamill for Ozai!!!!
I KNEW HE'D CUT HAWKY!!!! :cussing :mad:mad
I'm still upset with the fact that Momo really doesn't have anything to do with the plot and will probably be cut too! :uwah
Edit- Also? Suki and Sokka both look hot in that comic. :quite
I'm still upset with the fact that Momo really doesn't have anything to do with the plot and will probably be cut too! :uwah
I will rage the internet if that happened. :C
Sifu Kisu, Martial arts consultant, decided to clear some things up about himself on the Avatar message boards. Quite insightful stuff about the show, I just love reading the behind the scenes stuff. Apparently he hasn't been asked (yet) to participate in the Avatar documentary so what he's been writing concerning the Martial arts through these posts takes care of that somewhat.
Anyway concerning his involvement on the film:
What do you think? 1970's era chop-socky Kung Fu for the bending or different styles for each element as in the show?
Well, read everything Kisu wrote here - http://forums.avatarspirit.net/index.php?topic=17315.0
I found these things fascinating:
Although Aang and friends were inspired from multiethnic peoples one of which was my son Arjuna (multiethnic) who was part of the inspiration for Aang way back when he was just 6 years old in the early preproduction phases. I understand some of the fans have strong opinions about who should be cast but that job is taken.
For Azula I used movements from the Cha Kuen style which is a Northern style made famous by a group of Islamic nomads akin to the ancient Khan tribes the Hui People. The movements are fluidly linked and based on powerful geometric alignments. We usually teach this style to ladies teaching them to use alignment in place of muscular strength and raw force.
Tai Li's accu-point strikes are from a subset of Chin Na (Seize and Control) called Dim mak or Death Touch which can incapacitate or kill.
The Dai Li? Hung Ga a Southern Chinese Style.
I also found this nearly as intriguing:
I never had a "tantrum" over at "Live Journal" this is so untrue.
Well, this is just delusional. He's posted wild vituperations all over the internet. I'm sure NF will get one eventually, when he Googles himself and finds this thread
And he still calls that thing a 'fan fic," even though it was just a girl posting that she had a dream where Bryke and Kisu got down. That's not a fan fic.
And this:
Booter and I have talked in Deviant Art Email snippits and I think he is a cool guy. He didn't capture my handsome-ness or my awesome-ness LMAO! but his illustration did capture how I sometimes feel about some of the jerks on the martial art forums I contribute to. It's so funny to spend hours composing a serious piece about martial art life style, technique or essence and them have some a ss h l (wanna buy a vowel) drop a "you suck" one liner. Then yea I pretty much look just like that illustration
:ryoma
In conclusion, I love Kisu wholeheartedly. I mean, check this out: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=6478804
ORDINARY FORCE! EXTRAORDINARY FORCE!!!
How great is that?!
Dragonus Nesha
07-01-2009, 03:07 AM
What is funny is that you can see so many influences in the cartoon with scenes almost copied entirely from martial art movies, but I wanted the live action film to be truly original with action scenes you had never seen before.What fight scenes was he referring to?
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 03:12 AM
Sigh....If only his daughter NEVER decided to be Katara for Halloween...
What fight scenes was he referring to?
That's a great question, because Kisu had this to say:
In case you haven't figured it out yet every single move of every single character using martial art comes from video tape of me performing those moves. Every session we did was a 4-6 hour contiuous Shaolim workout for me and I was deathly ill or injured on many of those days but the show must go on.
So either Kisu was lifting his art directly from movies, or M. Night's just talkin' conjecture-bollocks. Survey Says?!
M. Night Shamwow is an idiot.
Superstarseven
07-01-2009, 06:00 AM
Yeah there's really no need to spend several thousand dollars on a Martial arts consultant if Kung Fu films are going to be the primary source for later animated moves.
I believe it's what sets Avatar apart from any animated show featuring martial arts.
Isn't that right Sasuke and Jackie Chan?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/418711521_76ec3a15d8_o.gif
Yes.
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 05:06 PM
Yeah there's really no need to spend several thousand dollars on a Martial arts consultant if Kung Fu films are going to be the primary source for later animated moves.
I believe it's what sets Avatar apart from any animated show featuring martial arts.
Isn't that right Sasuke and Jackie Chan?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/418711521_76ec3a15d8_o.gif
Yes.Cowboy bebop Neji
That and its not jack full of god damn filler.
Mider T
07-01-2009, 05:34 PM
I heard they're doing they're doing the GREAT DIVIDE
:wth
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 06:04 PM
I heard they're doing they're doing the GREAT DIVIDE
:wth
Eew, shoving their big adaptation cock into the great divide.
Needs more drills
Kusuriuri
07-01-2009, 06:06 PM
Eew, shoving their big adaptation cock into the great divide.
Needs more drills
You show Shamwow a huge hole and he'll put his massive adaptation right in there.
Nizuma Eiji
07-01-2009, 06:35 PM
^HA.
/Dirty mind.
Superstarseven
07-01-2009, 07:01 PM
Avatar could've gotten away with stealing moves though.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/soldieroffaith/Toph__HINATA_STYLE_by_Freddychic-1.gif
Hiroko
07-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Hmm... Who to believe? Rifu who's worked with the Avatar creators for quite some time without a hitch or Shambalamba who is a 'fan' of martial arts? :hmm
You know, because fans usually are the experts on the inner workings of things. Not the creator's themselves.
ETA: I just now saw this. :argh
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/DevPatelTheLastAirbender.jpg
There are... no words.
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 08:03 PM
Avatar could've gotten away with stealing moves though.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/soldieroffaith/Toph__HINATA_STYLE_by_Freddychic-1.gif
I always said Toph was Hinata with balls and personality :ninja
Hmm... Who to believe? Rifu who's worked with the Avatar creators for quite some time without a hitch or Shambalamba who is a 'fan' of martial arts? :hmm
You know, because fans usually are the experts on the inner workings of things. Not the creator's themselves.
ETA: I just now saw this. :argh
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/DevPatelTheLastAirbender.jpg
There are... no words.
Me too, why do the helmets look so damn Grecian? I guess the characters aren't the only thing being whitewashed here....
Hiroko
07-01-2009, 08:36 PM
I always said Toph was Hinata with balls and personality :ninja
lol I love that.
Me too, why do the helmets look so damn Grecian? I guess the characters aren't the only thing being whitewashed here....
I see too much Russian influence. There was a distinct asian influence to the FN warriors in the series. And where is his scar? It's supposed to be noticeable and make him look at least a little menacing. Dev is just in a giant coat with cheap cosplay armor and a bad haircut.
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 08:45 PM
lol I love that.
I see too much Russian influence. There was a distinct asian influence to the FN warriors in the series. And where is his scar? It's supposed to be noticeable and make him look at least a little menacing. Dev is just in a giant coat with cheap cosplay armor and a bad haircut.
Dev's too wimpy to shave his head partially it appears.
Hiroko
07-01-2009, 08:47 PM
Nah, that was all Shamalamba's idea, for sure. :/
Emperor Joker
07-01-2009, 09:10 PM
Hmm... Who to believe? Rifu who's worked with the Avatar creators for quite some time without a hitch or Shambalamba who is a 'fan' of martial arts? :hmm
You know, because fans usually are the experts on the inner workings of things. Not the creator's themselves.
ETA: I just now saw this. :argh
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/DevPatelTheLastAirbender.jpg
There are... no words.
Oh god is that Zuko?
Please dear lord tell me that is not Zuko
Kusuriuri
07-01-2009, 09:18 PM
Oh god is that Zuko?
Please dear lord tell me that is not Zuko
It's Zuko :ho
Hiroko
07-01-2009, 09:19 PM
More like Puko. :pek
Emperor Joker
07-01-2009, 09:22 PM
It's Zuko :ho
I look at that picture, and I see him speaking in a heavy russian accent. also I know this probably be before editing in the scar with special effects but damn, you'd think he'd at least try and look a little bit like Zuko.
Kusuriuri
07-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I look at that picture, and I see him speaking in a heavy russian accent. also I know this probably be before editing in the scar with special effects but damn, you'd think he'd at least try and look a little bit like Zuko.
I wouldn't count on it. They can't do that to the pretty boy who is selling their film.
lol, Puko.
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 09:30 PM
So, when do we get to see their zords?
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/DevPatelTheLastAirbender.jpg
:lmao at his ears.
I know this probably be before editing in the scar with special effects but damn, you'd think he'd at least try and look a little bit like Zuko.
That's IF he's going to get his scar :edu
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 11:23 PM
:lmao at his ears.
That's IF he's going to get his scar :edu
They're so he can hear the Avatar with :LOS
Ennoea
07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
So Fire nation is indian then? I'll lol if the Fire lord is some chinese guy and his sister is white, it'll be so stupid.
Hiroko
07-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Ozai to be played by one of Shamalamba's family members. I'm calling it now.
Taurus Versant
07-01-2009, 11:52 PM
Grounding the movie...
He wouldn't DARE touch the Cabbage Merchant :sun
ReikaiDemon
07-01-2009, 11:59 PM
Zords, what about the zords?
ReikaiDemon
07-02-2009, 12:00 AM
Grounding the movie...
He wouldn't DARE touch the Cabbage Merchant :sunHe'll be the Lettuce merchant, or mustard greens merchant
Italics
07-02-2009, 12:02 AM
Hmm... Who to believe? Rifu who's worked with the Avatar creators for quite some time without a hitch or Shambalamba who is a 'fan' of martial arts? :hmm
You know, because fans usually are the experts on the inner workings of things. Not the creator's themselves.
ETA: I just now saw this. :argh
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/DevPatelTheLastAirbender.jpg
There are... no words.
Wow - that's just really bad. I though this was simply going to be a train wreck - but :lmao that's just really bad.
Hiroko
07-02-2009, 12:11 AM
Grounding the movie...
He wouldn't DARE touch the Cabbage Merchant :sun
Cabbage merchant has little chance of making it if Sokka can barely fit into Sham's vision. :facepalm
I WANT FOAM GUY. :cry
Superstarseven
07-02-2009, 03:41 AM
Man, you guys have not been keeping up at all.
Here's the cast list as know it -
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/film1/
No smart aleck remarks either, you've got an entire universe at your fingertips.
Dragonus Nesha
07-02-2009, 03:47 AM
:oh Why is Ozai listed twice? Other than to cover his awesomeness avatarness.
His penis beard gets its own credit.
His penis beard gets its own credit.
How dare you.
Though a man with balls like that would need two penises. :edu
ReikaiDemon
07-02-2009, 05:52 AM
How dare you.
Though a man with balls like that would need two penises. :edu
I thought Ozai had three
I thought Ozai had three
I'm not counting the artificially grown ones, Rekky. :pek
ReikaiDemon
07-02-2009, 08:00 AM
I'm not counting the artificially grown ones, Rekky. :pek
At once I thought he had five, that's until I could tell the difference between legs and genitalia
Jagon Fox
07-02-2009, 08:37 AM
For those unaware of what Teagan is referring to:
http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=3413
I don't find it too distressing; but when he says, "I’m a huge martial art freak. I even have a Bruce Lee statue in my office!" it sounds eerily similar to McCartney's babbling about fighting ninjas.
i don't remember any fart jokes, i don't remember anything about any god at all, it sounds like doesn't have the remotest idea about what this show is all about and as for being an control freak ugh! he's gonna fuck an awesome series up and he does it so shamelessly to the little prick!the trailer looks awful i'm so glad i refuse to see it. m night sucks donkey dick!
Hahahaha, I love you guys.
Superstarseven
07-02-2009, 09:43 AM
i don't remember any fart jokes, i don't remember anything about any god at all, it sounds like doesn't have the remotest idea about what this show is all about and as for being an control freak ugh! he's gonna fuck an awesome series up and he does it so shamelessly to the little prick!the trailer looks awful i'm so glad i refuse to see it. m night sucks donkey dick!
The series is over, M.Night can't mess it up. 61 episodes in the can that have the Mike and Bryan stamp all over them. Night's contribution is the film which can either be a nice companion piece or simply a stand-alone failed adaptation.
As for the trailer, what looks awful about it? Not much there to judge on is there?
Jagon Fox
07-02-2009, 09:48 AM
the series may be over but he can still give it a bad name. imo. the whole thing just looked crappy to me, i can't explain why exactly.
Ennoea
07-02-2009, 10:34 AM
Ang looked decent enough, the trailer was just a teaser people. And is it true that Shamalama doesn't know what to do with Sokka? Now thats frightening, best thing about the show.
Ang looked decent enough, the trailer was just a teaser people. And is it true that Shamalama doesn't know what to do with Sokka? Now thats frightening, best thing about the show.
Here's how he's dressed on set:
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/mnight_morningcall.jpg
You had to steal a shirt from merch, Shammy? Couldn't find a collared shirt? :pek
^ That's Sokka's actor? Or is that Shammy :wha
^ That's Sokka's actor? Or is that Shammy :wha
That's our Director whose visionary genius will one day save the world. :edu
That's our Director whose visionary genius will one day save the world. :edu
Oh lordy :facepalm
Well, at least that wasn't Sokka, I would have killed myself :argh
Kusuriuri
07-03-2009, 07:17 PM
Oh lordy :facepalm
Well, at least that wasn't Sokka, I would have killed myself :argh
lol, you'll wish Shamalam was playing Sokka when you see who the Sokka actor actually is :lmao
lol, you'll wish Shamalam was playing Sokka when you see who the Sokka actor actually is :lmao
:lmao
I've seen his actor :argh
Just wasn't sure who the person Ennoea was referring to, it's obviously Shammy, I see it now :hurr.
EDIT: Oh SHIZ! Totally forgot he's Jasper! :smoke
He's definitely going to suck now :oh
ReikaiDemon
07-03-2009, 09:19 PM
Here's how he's dressed on set:
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/mnight_morningcall.jpg
You had to steal a shirt from merch, Shammy? Couldn't find a collared shirt? :pek
Wouldn't surprise me if the one who took the photo attempted a suicide bomb :LOS
Tabris
07-04-2009, 01:38 AM
Can't believe they're actually going through with this live-action film adaptation. Could they not find anyone better than Shyamalan to direct! This has "disaster" written all over it.
masterriku
07-04-2009, 01:56 AM
Think of it this way say it will be perfect if zutara doesn't happen.I mean what could be worse than that?
Hiroko
07-04-2009, 02:36 AM
Aang will probably die defeating Ozai in Sham's version. You know, to make the story more realistic and grounded.
Superrazien
07-04-2009, 04:23 AM
Shamwows twist is obvious
Aang can see dead people
ReikaiDemon
07-04-2009, 05:45 AM
Shamwows twist is obvious
Aang can see dead people
That's not a twist, Aang could always see dead people :pek
Taurus Versant
07-04-2009, 05:48 AM
He'll make it a twist, and then be all "Look at what I came up with, isn't it clever?" :pek
Superrazien
07-04-2009, 11:52 AM
That's not a twist, Aang could always see dead people :pek
My point exactly.
Itadakimasu00
07-05-2009, 11:49 AM
Hey guys,
Can someone tell me where I can steam some Avatar! I really miss this show. (and I didn't even see the second half of book 3 :uwah)
Hey guys,
Can someone tell me where I can steam some Avatar! I really miss this show. (and I didn't even see the second half of book 3 :uwah)
In before anyone posts a few certain links that I'll have to fulminate and scold them over!
You can watch all 61 Chapters here:
http://www.theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php
ReikaiDemon
07-05-2009, 03:48 PM
Hey guys,
Can someone tell me where I can steam some Avatar! I really miss this show. (and I didn't even see the second half of book 3 :uwah)Well, you see, no one steams Avatar anymore, so you're gonna have to do it yourself at home. Fortunately, the difficulty curve for steaming Avatar is quite moderate.
For this recipe, you'll need about 3 to 5 bamboo steamers, these can be picked up at your local culinary market or China town/Import store.
*puts on Alton Brown* However if you've run out of any options for bamboo steamers, a good folding steel basket steamer would do just as good.
*scene shifts to counter* Oh dear, we're out of those too...
*Toph shows up" Oh hey, it's Toph *name and occupation label pops up on screen* So, we don't have any steamers, you helped save the world, I'm sure you can solve this.
Toph: .... Oh sorry, I was many li's away, *sigh* Dakota-fuckin'-Fanning....
Is this a bad time?
No, no, it's fine...*seethes off camera*
....
Okay, moving on, our steamer problem, what are we to do?
Toph: *metal bends several folding steel steamer* There we go, haha, let's see that filthy bail jait muggle do that :hurr
Ah, xie xie Toph, *takes the steamers, camera changes to the kitchen counter island*
Now, I know what you're asking, why go throw all the trouble? Welllll.....*fwwwwip, scene changes to a visual aid segment* http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Steamingtechniques.jpg/800px-Steamingtechniques.jpg
Steaming is very healthy, it keeps the Avatar up and away from the liquid water, where it can drown and get soggy, this is likened to say, Nick airing Avatar out of order, with many reruns, and non-canon blurbs, it's also likened to burying Avatar completely in SpongeBob and iCarly. The heat of the steam cooks the food by direct contact, infusing all its crevaces, cooking it throughly. What makes this possible? Our good friend conduction of course! Thermal energy is transfered between the neighboring molecules of highly active water molecules, to the Avatar, with it's temperature gradient on the cool side, the steam being the hot side. *little puppets of Bryke as steam applying their HOT to Avatar's COOL*
This being steam of course, means it's made of water, this means that the Avatar can be throughly cooked to moist perfection. A distinct advantage is that it's very difficult to burn, or over cook the Avatar, due to being, well, water vapour. Fats and oils however, need to be at a constant, perfect temperature, or else the Avatar burns and overcooks. This is unfortunately very easy to do, the fat being like the flashy, extravagant adaptation hack artist that also adds its icky unhealthyness by saturating it with heavy, unnecessary weight and grease, deviating from the natural perfect flavors that can be brought only by the clean, slow, thourough process of steam, adding to it a delicious moist texture.
However, it is rumored that with special oil, and careful monotoring of the temperature, and duration of the frying, one may produce an Avatar nearly on par with steamed Avatar. Though, this is impossible of course, until M.Night fryoil stops cornering the market.
Steamed Avatar is no longer served in new variations, luckily, it is premade in a nice boxset.
AMtrack
07-05-2009, 04:27 PM
Avatar was an amazing show, one of the best i've seen which is saying a lot. I had a marathon recently over a couple days and watched all the chapters. Great characters, great story, and a pretty damn good ending. Good all-around if you ask me. I was totally hooked. Oh and if Kishi needs help developing good anti-heroes...he needs to fuckin look at Zuko. Zuko is what you call a well-developed anti-hero. Not that f*in Sasuke BS.
Hiroko
07-05-2009, 04:34 PM
I liked Zuko when he was more angsty instead of more flowerchild, personally. Sasuke isn't even an anti-hero; he's just an annoying asshole. I wouldn't call him an antagonist either, though.
Ennoea
07-05-2009, 05:20 PM
Shyamalan, who will direct from a script he penned, said Miyazaki is one of the greatest storytellers in the world. "In 'The Last Airbender,' I see an opportunity to make a live-action version of a Miyazaki film,"
What the hell is he on about?
Hiroko
07-05-2009, 05:25 PM
If he thinks he can make anything like Miyazaki... then he really needs to be medicated. :sag
So...he wants to turn Avatar into a live-action Miyazaki film....or he thinks Avatar was made by Miyazaki?
Either way:
:zaru
Think of it this way say it will be perfect if zutara doesn't happen.I mean what could be worse than that?
Real Life Zutarians should be enough to make every one of us squirm.
Well, you see, no one steams Avatar anymore, so you're gonna have to do it yourself at home. Fortunately, the difficulty curve for steaming Avatar is quite moderate.
For this recipe, you'll need about 3 to 5 bamboo steamers, these can be picked up at your local culinary market or China town/Import store.
*puts on Alton Brown* However if you've run out of any options for bamboo steamers, a good folding steel basket steamer would do just as good.
*scene shifts to counter* Oh dear, we're out of those too...
*Toph shows up" Oh hey, it's Toph *name and occupation label pops up on screen* So, we don't have any steamers, you helped save the world, I'm sure you can solve this.
Toph: .... Oh sorry, I was many li's away, *sigh* Dakota-fuckin'-Fanning....
Is this a bad time?
No, no, it's fine...*seethes off camera*
....
Okay, moving on, our steamer problem, what are we to do?
Toph: *metal bends several folding steel steamer* There we go, haha, let's see that filthy bail jait muggle do that :hurr
Ah, xie xie Toph, *takes the steamers, camera changes to the kitchen counter island*
Now, I know what you're asking, why go throw all the trouble? Welllll.....*fwwwwip, scene changes to a visual aid segment* http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Steamingtechniques.jpg/800px-Steamingtechniques.jpg
Steaming is very healthy, it keeps the Avatar up and away from the liquid water, where it can drown and get soggy, this is likened to say, Nick airing Avatar out of order, with many reruns, and non-canon blurbs, it's also likened to burying Avatar completely in SpongeBob and iCarly. The heat of the steam cooks the food by direct contact, infusing all its crevaces, cooking it throughly. What makes this possible? Our good friend conduction of course! Thermal energy is transfered between the neighboring molecules of highly active water molecules, to the Avatar, with it's temperature gradient on the cool side, the steam being the hot side. *little puppets of Bryke as steam applying their HOT to Avatar's COOL*
This being steam of course, means it's made of water, this means that the Avatar can be throughly cooked to moist perfection. A distinct advantage is that it's very difficult to burn, or over cook the Avatar, due to being, well, water vapour. Fats and oils however, need to be at a constant, perfect temperature, or else the Avatar burns and overcooks. This is unfortunately very easy to do, the fat being like the flashy, extravagant adaptation hack artist that also adds its icky unhealthyness by saturating it with heavy, unnecessary weight and grease, deviating from the natural perfect flavors that can be brought only by the clean, slow, thourough process of steam, adding to it a delicious moist texture.
However, it is rumored that with special oil, and careful monotoring of the temperature, and duration of the frying, one may produce an Avatar nearly on par with steamed Avatar. Though, this is impossible of course, until M.Night fryoil stops cornering the market.
Steamed Avatar is no longer served in new variations, luckily, it is premade in a nice boxset.
No mention of Kosher Salt or lipids, Rekky? JUST WHICH ALTON BROWN IS THIS?!! :cussing
AMtrack
07-05-2009, 09:31 PM
ROFL oh god, I hope shylaman isn't drawing inspiration from the play in the book of fire. That was a pretty fail portrayal of avatar hahaha. Sadly...it might be a lot like that.
masterriku
07-05-2009, 11:37 PM
What Ember island players fail you need to be schooled little one.:pek
Anyway My cousin told me his reaction to the live action trailer he hadn't heard about it so first he like :awesome then he was like :beardthing then he saw the words M.night Shamwow and then he was like :C.
Taurus Versant
07-05-2009, 11:40 PM
What Ember island players fail you need to be schooled little one.:pek
Anyway My cousin told me his reaction to the live action trailer he hadn't heard about it so first he like :awesome then he was like :beardthing then he saw the words M.night Shamwow and then he was like :C.
Classic.
And if M.Night was faithful to Ember Island, we'd probably have a good movie :C
HONOUR! :yell
AMtrack
07-05-2009, 11:59 PM
ROFL that episode was WEAK! Except for all the crazy character development of course. But the actual play was mad stupid, funny as hell though.
The CGI looks pretty sweet on the movie so I don't see how they can fail. The plot and everything is right there. And shylaman is pretty good with the directing bit, minus his abuse of camera changes haha. Seriously he has this fetish where he feels he needs to randomly switch angles every 3 seconds. Shit is HARD to follow.
ReikaiDemon
07-06-2009, 12:00 AM
Real Life Zutarians should be enough to make every one of us squirm.
No mention of Kosher Salt or lipids, Rekky? JUST WHICH ALTON BROWN IS THIS?!! :cussing
Avatar is so pure, it has no lipids, only pure open chakras and free flowing chi. And even Alton Brown knows it's insane to season an already perfect Avatar, it would just make it less perfect by adding something that wasn't needed-coughjpopopeningcough-
...
-coughshittyamvandmarysues-
AMtrack
07-06-2009, 12:04 AM
You know what....what exactly is shallyllama's last name anyway? I feel sorry for him, his last named gets f*cked all kinds of ways haha. I think everybody makes fun of that shit.
Dragonus Nesha
07-06-2009, 12:07 AM
You know what....what exactly is shallyllama's last name anyway? I feel sorry for him, his last named gets f*cked all kinds of ways haha. I think everybody makes fun of that shit.Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Night_Shyamalan). :hurr
masterriku
07-06-2009, 12:15 AM
I'll pretend I didn't learn that today.>.>
ReikaiDemon
07-06-2009, 12:24 AM
Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Night_Shyamalan). :hurr
That's a anime villain name if I've ever heard of
Hiroko
07-06-2009, 12:28 AM
I like to call him Shamalamba. :hehee Shamwow is just too good for him. I mean, it has 'wow' in it. 'Sham' is a good short name, I think. :quite
ReikaiDemon
07-06-2009, 12:47 AM
I like to call him Shamalamba. :hehee Shamwow is just too good for him. I mean, it has 'wow' in it. 'Sham' is a good short name, I think. :quite
Shamalamadingdong
Mider T
07-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Shitshine.
ReikaiDemon
07-06-2009, 01:05 AM
Shitshine.
You're not even trying :(
masterriku
07-06-2009, 01:17 AM
Shitshine.
Must not laugh at poor joke........... :lmao damnit.
Yeah it's fitting this where my 1000th post goes.
ROFL that episode was WEAK! Except for all the crazy character development of course. But the actual play was mad stupid, funny as hell though.
So, except for succeeding in everything it attempted to accomplish, the show failed, is what you're saying? I mean, it's not like it's The Bea...
Speaking of 1,000 posts, 40 more to go for me in this thread. Time to start thinking about what you'll get me, of course. I'm in a wicker phase at the moment (fiber bending), or perhaps Yankee Candle's Samplers® Votive Candles Fall Fragrances Preview Pack (synchronized wax and fragrance bending [advanced subset of water bending]). The new fragrances look awesome this year. Farmer's Market, Macintosh Spice, Vanilla Pumpkin, Be Thankful... Fuck ya! :yell
Taurus Versant
07-06-2009, 06:24 AM
So, except for succeeding in everything it attempted to accomplish, the show failed, is what you're saying? I mean, it's not like it's The Bea...
Speaking of 1,000 posts, 40 more to go for me in this thread. Time to start thinking about what you'll get me, of course. I'm in a wicker phase at the moment (fiber bending), or perhaps Yankee Candle's Samplers® Votive Candles Fall Fragrances Preview Pack (synchronized wax and fragrance bending [advanced subset of water bending]). The new fragrances look awesome this year. Farmer's Market, Macintosh Spice, Vanilla Pumpkin, Be Thankful... Fuck ya! :yell
I'm already putting together my Jove-i-oh deck for a celebratory game with Rekky. We'll share the results with you :LOS
ReikaiDemon
07-06-2009, 01:36 PM
This charming Steampunk series could've aired alongside Avatar for not one completely stupid fucking reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fR6gLQ2C8
Those skyscrapers Amada squeezes between. Apparently, it was deemed offensive just because of 9/11. Are we to deem any instance of parallel standing skyscrapers offensive now? It's completely fucking stupid, 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, but this attitude is just beyond any descriptor with the meaning of stupid.
No wonder animation is dying now.
masterriku
07-06-2009, 02:43 PM
That is rather depressing to know.
Then again destiny doesn't seem to want to be on this thread's side.
AMtrack
07-06-2009, 04:26 PM
So, except for succeeding in everything it attempted to accomplish, the show failed, is what you're saying? I mean, it's not like it's The Bea...
Man its not so much the entire episode im talking about...its the actual play avatar and company watch that I'm trying to get at. As in the play's portrayal of avatar's adventures is wack, compared to what actually happened in the entire show. You know...toph being a man, zutara, aang being a woman...etc etc. Ozai killing everyone...you get my drift. The episode itself was awesome...but the actual play was fail.
Superstarseven
07-06-2009, 09:06 PM
This charming Steampunk series could've aired alongside Avatar for not one completely stupid fucking reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fR6gLQ2C8
Those skyscrapers Amada squeezes between. Apparently, it was deemed offensive just because of 9/11. Are we to deem any instance of parallel standing skyscrapers offensive now? It's completely fucking stupid, 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, but this attitude is just beyond any descriptor with the meaning of stupid.
No wonder animation is dying now.
Yeah, the Constant Payne pilot by Micah Wright. Had it gone to air it would have been Nick's first original animated action/adventure series. That title of course would be later reserved for Avatar. Interesting to note that Payne would have also adopted an Anime style design to the characters. Nice little coincidence there, but the pilot did have some promise.
Ennoea
07-06-2009, 10:07 PM
What a shame, they make shitty CGI shows but because of PC bullshit refuse to air something quite interesting.
Trism
07-07-2009, 12:42 AM
Ah, Avatar.
I loved that show. It was one of the last saving graces of the cartoon world. Great writing on the show, likable characters, and plenty of action.
I'm afraid that I don't have much faith in M. Night Shyamalan, though. I hope the movie doesn't suck, but after seeing how Dragon Ball Evolution ruined one fandom already, the odds do not look good.
This charming Steampunk series could've aired alongside Avatar for not one completely stupid fucking reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fR6gLQ2C8
Those skyscrapers Amada squeezes between. Apparently, it was deemed offensive just because of 9/11. Are we to deem any instance of parallel standing skyscrapers offensive now? It's completely fucking stupid, 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, but this attitude is just beyond any descriptor with the meaning of stupid.
No wonder animation is dying now.
And, this reminds me. I heard something about another one of my favorite Nick cartoons. It was that an episode of Hey Arnold was banned because it showed the Twin Towers briefly.
ReikaiDemon
07-07-2009, 03:11 AM
Yeah, the Constant Payne pilot by Micah Wright. Had it gone to air it would have been Nick's first original animated action/adventure series. That title of course would be later reserved for Avatar. Interesting to note that Payne would have also adopted an Anime style design to the characters. Nice little coincidence there, but the pilot did have some promise.
Yeah, it's ridiculous why it was never picked up
What a shame, they make shitty CGI shows but because of PC bullshit refuse to air something quite interesting.
Especially the line up on Nick, it just plain sucks
Ah, Avatar.
I loved that show. It was one of the last saving graces of the cartoon world. Great writing on the show, likable characters, and plenty of action.
I'm afraid that I don't have much faith in M. Night Shyamalan, though. I hope the movie doesn't suck, but after seeing how Dragon Ball Evolution ruined one fandom already, the odds do not look good.
And, this reminds me. I heard something about another one of my favorite Nick cartoons. It was that an episode of Hey Arnold was banned because it showed the Twin Towers briefly.
They also used to ban anything with the mention of bombs in it too. It's retroactive too, so even if something was made in the 60's, it'll be no go.
I think they also started to ban stuff about floods and hurricanes now, the way they're dealing with these tragedies are just stupid.
Plus, couldn't they just edit out the scene anyways? Instead of blasting the whole damn serial altogether?
It was banned because they showed the Twin Towers...whut whut whut? That's dumb.
Let's ban all the movies and shows that show boats because of Pearl Harbor. Let's ban planes while we're at it too, all these kamikazes and plane crashes. ITS SOO OFFENSIVE!!!!!
:sag
Honestly, I agree with ReiKei, 9/11 was fucking horrible but these people are going batshit, banning episodes and shows over it.
Mider T
07-07-2009, 03:35 AM
Especially when the Statue of Liberty just opened back up.
New decade coming people, move on but don't forget!
Narcissus
07-07-2009, 03:35 AM
Yes, I had also read about them banning that episode of Hey Arnold because it had the twin towers in the background. And yes, the fact that they did it is simply moronic. They are banning stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the tragedy of 9/11.
Sadly, it has been years since I read that, and I no longer remember the site it was on.
ReikaiDemon
07-07-2009, 04:03 AM
Yes, I had also read about them banning that episode of Hey Arnold because it had the twin towers in the background. And yes, the fact that they did it is simply moronic. They are banning stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the tragedy of 9/11.
Sadly, it has been years since I read that, and I no longer remember the site it was on.
Your set reminds me, they refuse to show BTAS episodes with bomb threats as well, there was a Superman episode that had a couple skyscrapers taking a fall as well.
Honestly, these episodes were made YEARS before 9/11 ever happened, and it's not even poking at it as a tasteless joke.
They shouldn't let tragedy affect art, especially when it doesn't mean to reference tragedies that happen in the world. And people shouldn't see meanings and images that don't exist just because there are similarities between it and such tragedies.
I'm surprised they let Avatar have blimps after the Hindenburg.
I suppose because of Standards and Practices and acerbic soccer moms, networks are cringing pussies over anything that might even have the remotest chance of offending someone.
I like BTAS. Harley trying to seduce Joker was hilarious.
ReikaiDemon
07-07-2009, 05:46 AM
I like BTAS. Harley trying to seduce Joker was hilarious.
Dini is the man :iria
Too bad we don't get a Harley in the new movie D:
Narcissus
07-07-2009, 10:21 AM
Your set reminds me, they refuse to show BTAS episodes with bomb threats as well, there was a Superman episode that had a couple skyscrapers taking a fall as well.
Honestly, these episodes were made YEARS before 9/11 ever happened, and it's not even poking at it as a tasteless joke.
They shouldn't let tragedy affect art, especially when it doesn't mean to reference tragedies that happen in the world. And people shouldn't see meanings and images that don't exist just because there are similarities between it and such tragedies.
I'm surprised they let Avatar have blimps after the Hindenburg.
I suppose because of Standards and Practices and acerbic soccer moms, networks are cringing pussies over anything that might even have the remotest chance of offending someone.
Are you serious? I guess I'm not surprised, though. It's just sad how our society has become these days. :facepalm
I like BTAS. Harley trying to seduce Joker was hilarious.
I love that episode. :P
Mahdi
07-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Your set reminds me, they refuse to show BTAS episodes with bomb threats as well, there was a Superman episode that had a couple skyscrapers taking a fall as well.
Honestly, these episodes were made YEARS before 9/11 ever happened, and it's not even poking at it as a tasteless joke.
They shouldn't let tragedy affect art, especially when it doesn't mean to reference tragedies that happen in the world. And people shouldn't see meanings and images that don't exist just because there are similarities between it and such tragedies.
I'm surprised they let Avatar have blimps after the Hindenburg.
I suppose because of Standards and Practices and acerbic soccer moms, networks are cringing pussies over anything that might even have the remotest chance of offending someone.
Never underestimate soccer moms...they have the power to congregate!
killinspree42099
07-07-2009, 07:55 PM
the live action movie looks good
masterriku
07-08-2009, 05:28 PM
You forgot to add until you see the name M.night.:hurr
ReikaiDemon
07-09-2009, 01:26 AM
What's with this death everyone?
You're acting like Princess Yue died.
....
Oh waiiiit....
masterriku
07-09-2009, 01:29 AM
It was only 6 hours ago.
What can we do other than talk about the movie/comics/The Beach:LOS/vain hope of sequel series.
Also about how animation has fallen due to bullshit.
JOVE JOVE THEY'RE KEEPING MOMO
ReikaiDemon
07-09-2009, 02:02 AM
It was only 6 hours ago.
What can we do other than talk about the movie/comics/The Beach:LOS/vain hope of sequel series.
Also about how animation has fallen due to bullshit.
I hate you so much CN Real
crabman
07-09-2009, 02:18 AM
Does anybody else agree that M. Night Shamwow would make the greatest cabbage guy? Because he hates east Asian people in his movies.
ReikaiDemon
07-09-2009, 02:42 AM
Does anybody else agree that M. Night Shamwow would make the greatest cabbage guy? Because he hates east Asian people in his movies.
I don't get it.
Is it.. Napa cabbage guy?
jkingler
07-09-2009, 01:30 PM
They're keeping Momo? For serious?! :amazed
/felicitous
They are keeping him? :iria
Agmaster
07-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Wait...what died?
JOVE JOVE THEY'RE KEEPING MOMO
HELL YEAH, KOI!!! :X3!!!!!
Ok, so next Tuesday is the 14th, the one-year anniversary of the beginning of Finale Week. I could not think of a better way to commemorate it, and divert our thoughts from the impending Shamadebacle and bring them back to the show, then to have a second Rewatch.
Each morning, a post will be made to remind everyone of that day's episodes. Everyone can watch them whenever, and we will discuss them that afternoon and night, until the next morning. The Rewatch is placid and loves eclecticism. Review the show any way you want. And if you don't have the DVD's, you can stream the episodes at http://theavatarportal.org/WatchEpisodes.php.
This year, the schedule will adhere to the Countdown to the Comet schedule:
Tuesday, July 14th: The Western Air Temple
Wednesday, July 15th: The Firebending Masters
Thursday, July 16th: The Boiling Rock, Part 1; The Boiling Rock, Part 2
Friday, July 17th: The Southern Raiders
Saturday, July 18th: The Ember Island Players
Sunday, July 19th: Sozin's Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King; Sozin's Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters; Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno; Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang.
The catch to this Rewatch is that it's going to completely follow the way Nick structured the reairs of episodes during Finale Week. That means that you can add each show to the next day. 312 can be added to 313's day, 312 and 313 can both be added to 314/315's day, and so on, up to the Finale itself.
So spread the word. Sig it, shout excitedly, exploit all media! I'm looking forward to finishing where we left off 360-something days ago. :X3
St. Jimmy
07-09-2009, 06:45 PM
I might join in on this one :hmm
I might join in on this one :hmm
Very good. I'd love it if this one had double the amount last year. With you, that would be halfway there. :quite
St. Jimmy
07-09-2009, 06:58 PM
I dont know if I can do the 18th though :hmm
toxicPanda
07-10-2009, 01:22 AM
That doesn't seem like a bad idea. At least it will take my mind off the horror that is "The Last Airbender." Movie will suck! :cry
Superstarseven
07-10-2009, 02:08 AM
it will take my mind off the horror that is "The Last Airbender." Movie will suck! :cry
Is that a proven fact that I'm not aware of yet?
Seriously dude, it's alright to keep expectations low but we have to wait for more than what was given to us already before the bashing begins.
Dragonus Nesha
07-10-2009, 02:55 AM
I'll try this rewatch. I failed to keep up with the last one.Wait...what died?Our hopes and dreams. The usual cuisine for M. Night.
ReikaiDemon
07-10-2009, 04:53 AM
I had a weird dream, where the end of Avatar was different, where ALL of the Gaang fought him at once, and other allies. It was epic. For some reason, Ozai had all the bending styles, and drank some kind of immortality medicine. He was weak against gold, and Sokka had two jians with gold edges. Piandao and Sokka and Toph were doing that back to back fighting thing. Toph was repairing Sokka's swords while they were doing some mad combos. It took place in this strange temple. It was a longass fight, it ended finally when EVERYONE took out a massive team combo on Ozai AS he was constantly regenerating (he has molten goldish skin as he regenerates). The most epic music ever broke out, and finally, Ozai lay on the ground, Some new characters from the alchemists that made the medicine came in, and used two artifacts on Ozai, one of them stabbed a gold artifact shaped like many dragons under his chin, then removed it, and used a glass like cylinder with a tube. they stuck the tube under his chin, and extracted a mercury like liquid into the cylinder. I think Ozai was crippled after the fight.
masterriku
07-10-2009, 02:07 PM
HELL YEAH, KOI!!! :X3!!!!!
Ok, so next Tuesday is the 14th, the one-year anniversary of the beginning of Finale Week. I could not think of a better way to commemorate it, and divert our thoughts from the impending Shamadebacle and bring them back to the show, then to have a second Rewatch.
Each morning, a post will be made to remind everyone of that day's episodes. Everyone can watch them whenever, and we will discuss them that afternoon and night, until the next morning. The Rewatch is placid and loves eclecticism. Review the show any way you want. And if you don't have the DVD's, you can stream the episodes at http://theavatarportal.org/WatchEpisodes.php.
This year, the schedule will adhere to the Countdown to the Comet schedule:
Tuesday, July 14th: The Western Air Temple
Wednesday, July 15th: The Firebending Masters
Thursday, July 16th: The Boiling Rock, Part 1; The Boiling Rock, Part 2
Friday, July 17th: The Southern Raiders
Saturday, July 18th: The Ember Island Players
Sunday, July 19th: Sozin's Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King; Sozin's Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters; Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno; Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang.
The catch to this Rewatch is that it's going to completely follow the way Nick structured the reairs of episodes during Finale Week. That means that you can add each show to the next day. 312 can be added to 313's day, 312 and 313 can both be added to 314/315's day, and so on, up to the Finale itself.
So spread the word. Sig it, shout excitedly, exploit all media! I'm looking forward to finishing where we left off 360-something days ago. :X3
WHAT!!!!!!!! you ignored my the beach taunt I'm so proud of you Jove. :nod
jkingler
07-10-2009, 02:17 PM
I'm already sorta doing a rewatch with my nephews (excellent excuse, haha), but I'll try to get in on this as well, when and as I'm able.
WHAT!!!!!!!! you ignored my the beach taunt I'm so proud of you Jove. :nod
I was focused on writing the Rewatch post. :pek
I'll be using it as an example and more emphasis numerous times, count on that. :pek
masterriku
07-13-2009, 12:18 PM
The fuck is this doing on the second page, also I believe tomorrow is rewatch day one we should start today though so it can end on a saturday just like last year.
ReikaiDemon
07-13-2009, 01:57 PM
The fuck is this doing on the second page, also I believe tomorrow is rewatch day one we should start today though so it can end on a saturday just like last year.
I dunno, but why is this still four star? :pek
Dragonus Nesha
07-13-2009, 02:29 PM
I dunno, but why is this still four star? :pekBecause we are honouring Nickelodeon's botched schedule for the rewatch? :quite
ReikaiDemon
07-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Because we are honouring Nickelodeon's botched schedule for the rewatch? :quite
This thread is too awesome for that :quite
This thread is too awesome for that :quite
**rages through town, pushing over a wagon with bare hands, smashes pottery, rips down banners from theater-front, tears apart annexation treaties and leasing contracts**
THIS IS A LAND OF PROPRIETY!!
I wanted to follow the schedule exactly, because I feel it's one of the few cool things Nick actually did. :quite
Italics
07-13-2009, 09:25 PM
I wanna watch...
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/07/14/sokka-and-katara-headshots/
First shots of Katara and Sokka.
Kusuriuri
07-13-2009, 10:28 PM
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/07/14/sokka-and-katara-headshots/
First shots of Katara and Sokka.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-UCK!!!!
Taurus Versant
07-13-2009, 10:34 PM
D:
Not cool M.Night, not cool D:
Ema Skye
07-13-2009, 11:12 PM
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/07/14/sokka-and-katara-headshots/
First shots of Katara and Sokka.
What have they done to Sokka?! :argh
:-(
OH NOES! THEY R TEH WHITEs!
Sokka's got the inquisitive retard look and Katara's....Katara. Missing Hair Loopies aside, I see no problem. And all we miss from that is one joke from Book 2.
ReikaiDemon
07-14-2009, 12:01 AM
Even if Avatar was a book with no character illustrations, this iis still a hack job
Italics
07-14-2009, 12:14 AM
OH NOES! THEY R TEH WHITEs!
Right? They seriously need some of that fake tan junk.
Sokka's got the inquisitive retard look and Katara's....Katara. Missing Hair Loopies aside, I see no problem. And all we miss from that is one joke from Book 2.
So you're saying they nailed Sokka? :LOS
jk - Sokka's the man.
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 12:31 AM
Well, I saw the headshots and....I'm completely underwhelmed.
I should have been wide-eyed and excited while looking at these but that didn't happen.
Am I right in saying that the film water tribe was rumored to adopt a more Nordic background instead of the Inuit culture and customs that the show used?
Probably should have gone with that first one now that I see Nicola and Jackson.
Right? They seriously need some of that fake tan junk.
:C........:facepalm
So you're saying they nailed Sokka? :LOS
jk - Sokka's the man.
Despite the fact that Sokka is indeed the man, that is exactly what I was saying.
Italics
07-14-2009, 12:48 AM
:C........:facepalm
Despite the fact that Sokka is indeed the man, that is exactly what I was saying.
:facepalm indeed. :amuse
Somehow I'm not seeing meat and sarcasm.
stab-o-tron5000
07-14-2009, 01:31 AM
Is it just me, or dos Noah actaully have some slightly Asianish features?
Mider T
07-14-2009, 02:27 AM
Is it just me, or dos Noah actaully have some slightly Asianish features?
It's just you.
IsoloKiro
07-14-2009, 02:31 AM
Aang looks hella tired.
Italics
07-14-2009, 02:40 AM
Somehow I'm not seeing meat and sarcasm.
I'm sorry Koi - if in fact you're commenting on my posts.
I just thought since I've heard so many remarks about White this and Asian (inasmuch as appearances are concerned) that suggesting the moderately yellowish effect of the fake sun tan stuff might be considered funny (as if this would rectify the situation).
This remark back to back with my comment concerning Sokka was evidently too much. I thought Noah's opinion concerning Sokka was self evident. Sokka is great - but Noah's quip pegged his character. I thought it might be fun to highlight it, but offer "just kidding" as a conciliatory gesture (to those who might take my post seriously). I mean, Sokka is in many ways a lovable bone head.
...now I just feel like an idiot.
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 02:52 AM
More pics!
No cropped heads anymore.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_zuko2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_aang2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_katara2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_sokka2.jpg
And a promo shot.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_viacompromo.jpg
Who's the mystery Earthbender, any guesses? I'd love to see who gets casted for the role of Toph BeiFong, someone named Amber Marie Williams perhaps? Just saying it'd be ok to cast at least 1 East Asian in a lead role for this film.
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 02:54 AM
Is that Earth element guy supposed to be Bumi?:apathy
Omega Level
07-14-2009, 03:01 AM
Is that Earth element guy supposed to be Bumi?:apathy
Well they said there is gonna be an Earthbender in the movie. He is actually asian
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 03:14 AM
Ok, thank god it's not Bumi....wait, who's Ling?....
Omega Level
07-14-2009, 03:23 AM
Ok, thank god it's not Bumi....wait, who's Ling?....
My bad about the Ling part. But the earthbending boy is going to be played by a Korean-American. I was talking about Mulan on msn and must have got it mixed up lol
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 03:24 AM
:lmao I just hope it's not Bumi seeing as he is the only real earthbender in the first book.
ReikaiDemon
07-14-2009, 03:59 AM
Well, I saw the headshots and....I'm completely underwhelmed.
I should have been wide-eyed and excited while looking at these but that didn't happen.
Am I right in saying that the film water tribe was rumored to adopt a more Nordic background instead of the Inuit culture and customs that the show used?
Probably should have gone with that first one now that I see Nicola and Jackson.
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I'd say whitewashing, but this is even too far for whitewashing :facepalmXinfinity
Wasn't the point of Avatar to bring Eastern culture to us? Nordic?! The fuck?...If they all get British accents, I WILL CALL A JIHAD ON ALL OF HOLLYWOOD
Well they said there is gonna be an Earthbender in the movie. He is actually asian
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AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHH! Filler characters!?! They have a full fucking season of material, and they decide to put a FILLER CHARACTER IN?! Come the fuck on, that's just insult to injury there. Okay, so they decide to cut out characters, but now, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A FILLER CHARACTER?!? What's next, SIDE PLOTS?!
This just doesn't make sense anymore.
You know what? Why bother making a movie? It's just too soon after the series.
Damn you M.Night's daughter, damn you for dressing up as Katara for Halloween. You're supposed to dress up as pants shittingly scary monsters on Halloween, not fucking cosplay.
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 05:03 AM
Filler character? Does that word apply to a feature film adaptation? No debate either, it's a hypothetical.
Anyway the genesis for this movie goes all the way back to 2007, way to late for take-backsies now. It's happening and some of us will pay $11.50 to watch it.
Taurus Versant
07-14-2009, 07:08 AM
They could mean Haru.
Is it just me, or dos Noah actaully have some slightly Asianish features?
I'm....not quite sure what that means or where it came from.
Edit: Oh. Right. The actor.
Derp. :facepalm
Actually, I kinda see it. But it might just be his mugshot photo instead.
Well, an unsettling revelation, but who cares?! REWATCH TIME!!!
Avatar: the Last Airbender Finale Week Commemorative Rewatch
Day 1: What Canada Saw First
Episodes
Book 3: Fire, Chapter 12: The Western Air Temple
In the apres of the demoralizing catastrophe on the Day of Black Sun, the Gaang, with friends, retreat to the last remaining Air Temple unseen in the show: the breathtaking marvel, the Western Air Temple. But it was not merely friends that accompanied them to the Temple, as their old antagonist craves redemption, while a more current one seeks resolution.
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Hiroko
07-14-2009, 01:31 PM
More pics!
No cropped heads anymore.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_zuko2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_aang2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_katara2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_sokka2.jpg
And a promo shot.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_viacompromo.jpg
Who's the mystery Earthbender, any guesses? I'd love to see who gets casted for the role of Toph BeiFong, someone named Amber Marie Williams perhaps? Just saying it'd be ok to cast at least 1 East Asian in a lead role for this film.
I... You know, maybe in this version of Avatar, Katara and Sokka are just decedents of vikings that went too far north.. or south. Yeah, that's it. :argh
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 01:35 PM
I... You know, maybe in this version of Avatar, Katara and Sokka are just decedents of vikings that went too far north.. or south. Yeah, that's it. :argh
:-( Poor Hiro, she's lost it....
Shade
07-14-2009, 02:44 PM
I'm confident that Dev, Pelts and Noah might be able tp pull it off, but I have my doubts about the Jackson kid.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-UCK!!!!
Oh lordy :hehee
:lmao
I thought you were exaggerating, but they look terrible :facepalm
Hiroko
07-14-2009, 02:59 PM
:-( Poor Hiro, she's lost it....
That is putting it lightly, good sir. :argh
I'm confident that Dev, Pelts and Noah might be able tp pull it off, but I have my doubts about the Twilight kid.
Fixed for you. Now is not the time to smudge over how horrible the truth is. :pek
The girl playing Katara looks about 9 or 10. :facepalm I guess it's bc they plan on keeping her for a few years.
Nimander
07-14-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm willing to give leeway on the movies unless they f*** Toph up. Then I'm gonna have to send some vicious hate mail to everyone's favorite "twist" master.
Don't mess this up, M. Night:pek:gun
Omega Level
07-14-2009, 03:40 PM
M.Night Shyamalan....his name is so cool. Shyamalan :gar
IsoloKiro
07-14-2009, 03:44 PM
Haha I think they look good considering the circumstances. Stop hating.
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 03:45 PM
That is putting it lightly, good sir. :argh
Fixed for you. Now is not the time to smudge over how horrible the truth is. :pek
The girl playing Katara looks about 9 or 10. :facepalm I guess it's bc they plan on keeping her for a few years.
Well Nicola is 14 which is Katara's age and since filming of the trilogy is not planned to be back to back, it certainly helps that she looks younger.
ReikaiDemon
07-14-2009, 03:48 PM
Everyone, say it with me, JIIIIIHAAAAAAD!!! :LOS
Italics
07-14-2009, 04:00 PM
Looking forward to tonight's episode. Last night one of my all time favorites The Avatar and the Firelord was on.
These people...these people are great storytellers. It seems so effortless for them. For instance, the bond between Roku and Sozin seemed so genuine - and they created it in such a brief segment. But it's more than that. It's the way they introduced the history, the way they reveal everything. It's just amazing.
I really hope they make an animated feature, despite what they are doing (live action).
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 04:40 PM
An Animated feature would be great. The question would be how to approach it.
Should it focus on Aang post Sozin's Comet or a new story set between seasons 2 and 3?
We are talking of course about a DTV movie by the way. I don't see Avatar in it's animated form hitting the Big screen.
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 04:44 PM
The final episode set up whatever comes next as Zuko's search for his mother.
ReikaiDemon
07-14-2009, 05:09 PM
An Animated feature would be great. The question would be how to approach it.
Should it focus on Aang post Sozin's Comet or a new story set between seasons 2 and 3?
We are talking of course about a DTV movie by the way. I don't see Avatar in it's animated form hitting the Big screen.
If only this was Japan
Superstarseven
07-14-2009, 08:22 PM
The final episode set up whatever comes next as Zuko's search for his mother.
Better be a hell of an adventure to warrant an hour and a half of animation.
Austeria
07-14-2009, 08:49 PM
More pics!
No cropped heads anymore.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_zuko2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_aang2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_katara2.jpghttp://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_laf_sokka2.jpg
And a promo shot.
http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tla_viacompromo.jpg
Who's the mystery Earthbender, any guesses? I'd love to see who gets casted for the role of Toph BeiFong, someone named Amber Marie Williams perhaps? Just saying it'd be ok to cast at least 1 East Asian in a lead role for this film.
...
:zaru
When I first heard of this project, I was completely excited. :(
I really don't get it. Why couldn't they have gotten Asian people to play Asian characters? One of the reasons why I was into Avatar in the first place was its setting, the world, the Asian tones. It's all very charming and without it Avatar wouldn't be Avatar IMO.
I want mah Avatar with real Asian martial artists like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Sammo Hung, etc. :love
:(
Italics
07-14-2009, 09:15 PM
An Animated feature would be great. The question would be how to approach it.
Should it focus on Aang post Sozin's Comet or a new story set between seasons 2 and 3?
We are talking of course about a DTV movie by the way. I don't see Avatar in it's animated form hitting the Big screen.
I really have no idea, but I have confidence that they would.
It might be fun to see them in the not so distant future and refer or flash back to earlier times.
The final episode set up whatever comes next as Zuko's search for his mother.
I thought it was interesting that this was left undone. Despite their mentioning it in the series finale, it never felt finished. I don't know if they could spin this into something feature length.
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 09:20 PM
I don't really care how deeply involved Aang would be in the Zuko film, I would love to see it. I'm sure they can do something good.
Italics
07-14-2009, 09:23 PM
I don't really care how deeply involved Aang would be in the Zuko film, I would love to see it. I'm sure they can do something good.
I have no doubts it would be epic. Personally I would want the whole bunch involved. But especially Momo.
Kusuriuri
07-14-2009, 09:25 PM
As long as Sokka is in there, i'm happy :lmao
ReikaiDemon
07-14-2009, 10:24 PM
Is Zuko holding a spear in that Promo shot?
Is Zuko holding a spear in that Promo shot?
Well, whatever it is, it's exterminating everyone's dignity. :pek
Rewatch time.
My thought's on today's episode:
The Western Air Temple
--- So obviously one of the most frustrating things about this episode is that it aired first in Canada. Looking back a year and half later, it's still pretty unseemly. It's unfathomable why Nick would allow this, and it is Nick's call because they are the one's that produce and distribute the show. Such a mindless travesty, and disrespectful to the show.
--- One of the things I noticed, even watching the pirated version, is that there is some strange character/background interplay going on throughout this episode. The lighting makes for a lot of uncharacteristically poor blending, especially when Aang is scratching Appa's nose in the beginning. That looks totally unnatural. Surprising... this a JM Animation episode
--- However, the initial shot, and designs, of the Western Air Temple were stunning.
--- The flashbacks were a pleasant framing for the episode. Avatar always did use them astutely. I was also impressed by the way Dante Basco varied his voice. It wasn't Book 1 Zuko, either; it was an entirely different personality. It was kind of weird seeing old Uncle with Greg Baldwin's voice, though. The non-linear aspect of it is so bizarre.
-- Have fun exploring the temple, guys! See you next act break!
--- I've been using Aang's reaction to Jeong-Jeong's name for everything. "Oh, like the banks will ever make that mistake again! **puts hands on head, casually leans back**
--- Obligatory musical note: The Track Team were the most stellar aspect in this one. The way they used trademark Iroh and Azula musical themes underneath Zuko's impersonations of them was fantastic. Likewise, I absolutely love it when they make specific call-backs to iconic music from the show, and especially the music that played underneath the penguin-sledding scene. The variant of that used when they were flying through the spires was flippin exhilarating.
--- OMG, Katara made Zuko all wet! SHIP IT!! :spaz
-- That shot framed from inside Sokka's mouth is the greatest and weirdest shot in all of Avatar. And this is not up for debate.
--- Zuko burned Toph's feet! SHIP IT! :spaz
--Hey guys, welcome back from exploring... oh, going to do more exploring? See you next plot point!
--- Combustion Man v. Gaang has got to be one of the weirder fights in the show's oeuvre. It's pure power versus power. And the moves they break out: Aang kicking a wind funnel, Katara's icicle storm... where's this been? :oh
--- WOMG!!! Katara threatened Zuko's life! FUCCCCCKING SHIIIP IIIIT! :bees:bees:bees
---Zuko's reaction to that is the saddest face in all of Avatar. That's not even debatable.
ReikaiDemon
07-15-2009, 12:44 AM
Well, whatever it is, it's exterminating everyone's dignity. :pek
Rewatch time.
My thought's on today's episode:
The Western Air Temple
--- So obviously one of the most frustrating things about this episode is that it aired first in Canada. Looking back a year and half later, it's still pretty unseemly. It's unfathomable why Nick would allow this, and it is Nick's call because they are the one's that produce and distribute the show. Such a mindless travesty, and disrespectful to the show.
--- One of the things I noticed, even watching the pirated version, is that there is some strange character/background interplay going on throughout this episode. The lighting makes for a lot of uncharacteristically poor blending, especially when Aang is scratching Appa's nose in the beginning. That looks totally unnatural. Surprising... this a JM Animation episode
--- However, the initial shot, and designs, of the Western Air Temple were stunning.
--- The flashbacks were a pleasant framing for the episode. Avatar always did use them astutely. I was also impressed by the way Dante Basco varied his voice. It wasn't Book 1 Zuko, either; it was an entirely different personality. It was kind of weird seeing old Uncle with Greg Baldwin's voice, though. The non-linear aspect of it is so bizarre.
-- Have fun exploring the temple, guys! See you next act break!
--- I've been using Aang's reaction to Jeong-Jeong's name for everything. "Oh, like the banks will ever make that mistake again! **puts hands on head, casually leans back**
--- Obligatory musical note: The Track Team were the most stellar aspect in this one. The way they used trademark Iroh and Azula musical themes underneath Zuko's impersonations of them was fantastic. Likewise, I absolutely love it when they make specific call-backs to iconic music from the show, and especially the music that played underneath the penguin-sledding scene. The variant of that used when they were flying through the spires was flippin exhilarating.
--- OMG, Katara made Zuko all wet! SHIP IT!! :spaz
-- That shot framed from inside Sokka's mouth is the greatest and weirdest shot in all of Avatar. And this is not up for debate.
--- Zuko burned Toph's feet! SHIP IT! :spaz
--Hey guys, welcome back from exploring... oh, going to do more exploring? See you next plot point!
--- Combustion Man v. Gaang has got to be one of the weirder fights in the show's oeuvre. It's pure power versus power. And the moves they break out: Aang kicking a wind funnel, Katara's icicle storm... where's this been? :oh
--- WOMG!!! Katara threatened Zuko's life! FUCCCCCKING SHIIIP IIIIT! :bees:bees:bees
---Zuko's reaction to that is the saddest face in all of Avatar. That's not even debatable.
Jovie honey, Zuko doesn't have the anatomy/plumbing to get wet...
Unless....
OH GOD! *cheeks inflate with puke*
Hiroko
07-15-2009, 01:13 AM
Zutara... death by blood-bending. :kukuku
I loved it. :smoke
Superstarseven
07-15-2009, 04:43 AM
OK, discussion of the film adaptation is being moved here -
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=360256
Taurus Versant
07-15-2009, 07:41 AM
Jovie honey, Zuko doesn't have the anatomy/plumbing to get wet...
Unless....
OH GOD! *cheeks inflate with puke*
Yaoi shippers think of everything.
Everything.
Avatar: the Last Airbender Finale Week Commemorative Rewatch
Day 2: What Canada Also Saw First
Episodes
Book 3, Chapter 13: The Firebending Masters
AND, in adhering to the exact scheduling of Finale Week last year, also acceptable is:
Book 3: Fire, Chapter 12: The Western Air Temple
Having accepted Zuko as Aang's Firebending teacher, the Gaang settles into life in hiding at the Western Air Temple. However, that decisive (and this time, ultimate) change within Zuko has decimated his Firebending. And so, in a new pattern for the show, Aang and Zuko journey from the Western Air Temple in search of an enigmatic and powerful group known as the Sun Warriors. What follows is some one of the most breathtaking scenes in the show, and the solidification of Aang and Zuko's friendship (one exploding with gay undertones, of course).
Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:
http://www.theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php
Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Finale Week Commemorative Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.
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