Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[ReikaiDemon]

Yes I do. I facepalmed when I heard what they did.

This isn't about the acting side, but it's just as relevant as far as Hollywood and race go. (http://www.racialicious.com/2009/04/21/fade-in-magazine-talks-racism-in-hollywood/)
Oh yeah, HollyWood being a general acre of densely packed dicks sure isn't news to me, but I haven't heard those stories yet.

Well, point still stands, Hollywood loves to pigeonhole minorities.

[Jove]

And while we're on this track, I thought it was fucking hiliarious that Steven Segal tried to make a movie about Genghis Fuckin' Khan(You know, the dude whose family might've almost took over the world, had his progeny not died of a heart attack) with Mr. Segal playing Genghis.

Oh come off it, Rekky. Where are you going to find an Asian as good at Martial Arts as Steven Segal?!

Nowhere. :pek

[ReikaiDemon]

Oh come off it, Rekky. Where are you going to find an Asian as good at Martial Arts as Steven Segal?!

Nowhere. :pek
Sarcasm tags? D:
Well, the point is, I don't think Genghis is as white as Segal believes he is, regardless of ability or not.
Although, I would fancy an Issac Hayes playing Abraham Lincoln, or perhaps go to the extremes and have white guy play Jes- oh wait....

Still, it all boils down to good ole' fashion yellowface :D

[Superrazien]

So I have been reading and debating on other sites. A number of people think the cast for the Avatar movie, is in no way shape or form, doesn't even have a hint of racism. I disagree, what do some of you guys/gals think?

[Noah]

^ I don't care.

Really, it doesn't bother me as long as there's some diversity in there. Fire nation is Indian instead of Chinese? That's fine with me.

[ReikaiDemon]

^ I don't care.

Really, it doesn't bother me as long as there's some diversity in there. Fire nation is Indian instead of Chinese? That's fine with me.
A chance for a walk on cameo of Dhalsim? :sag

Anyways, whatever the movie may be, Bryke's work is still superior for the time being.

[Jove]

A chance for a walk on cameo of Dhalsim? :sag

Anyways, whatever the movie may be, Bryke's work is still superior for the time being.

Woah woah woah, Rekky. "For the time being??!!!"

The movies have 0% chance of even attempting to approach the thought of glancing at the notion of almost being in the discussion of being a respectable representation of the show. :mad


Also, an Indian Fire Nation seems fine now, until a new Fire Nation Noble character is introduced in Book 3 that kills Aang, steals his Avatar Spirit, slaughters Ozai and conquers the world in his memory. And where will M. Night find someone of Indian descent to play that role, preferably a megalomaniac that looks just like him?? :hmm

[ReikaiDemon]

Woah woah woah, Rekky. "For the time being??!!!"

The movies have 0% chance of even attempting to approach the thought of glancing at the notion of almost being in the discussion of being a respectable representation of the show. :mad


Also, an Indian Fire Nation seems fine now, until a new Fire Nation Noble character is introduced in Book 3 that kills Aang, steals his Avatar Spirit, slaughters Ozai and conquers the world in his memory. And where will M. Night find someone of Indian descent to play that role, preferably a megalomaniac that looks just like him?? :hmm
I was just giving M.Night a chance D:
And GOD KNOWS he needs everybit of help possible, lest he tanks it several miles below ground, possibly killing any chance of after series by Bryke D:
And besides, I wasn't really think of the movie when I said "for the time being" I was wondering if the movie was sucessful, then perhaps Bryke might make another series possibly in the canon that surpasses the first series :3
Hopefully we didn't jinx it D:

[txz]

Main problem with M.Night is that while he is a pretty decent director, he is a shitty writer. So as long as the movies aren't written by him we should be ok.

[Chee]

^^ They are being written by him.

This isn't about the acting side, but it's just as relevant as far as Hollywood and race go. (http://www.racialicious.com/2009/04/21/fade-in-magazine-talks-racism-in-hollywood/)

Sigh. I read the sexism part and because I'm a woman who wants to be a film director...gah. Just pisses me off, I get that a lot too in my video and audio class.

So I have been reading and debating on other sites. A number of people think the cast for the Avatar movie, is in no way shape or form, doesn't even have a hint of racism. I disagree, what do some of you guys/gals think?

It's just horribly miscasted.

[Jove]

Honestly, I don't think M. Night's that great of a director, either. But every opinion I have of him is based on Lady in the Water. I've refused to watch The Happening. Perhaps that one was filled with shots that weren't at totally illogical angles?


Also, according to Frank Marshall:

Today's visitors are Nick execs from NYC. Mike and Brian were on set last week...

[ReikaiDemon]

Honestly, I don't think M. Night's that great of a director, either. But every opinion I have of him is based on Lady in the Water. I've refused to watch The Happening. Perhaps that one was filled with shots that weren't at totally illogical angles?


Also, according to Frank Marshall:
Did they foam at the mouth and have heart attacks? :LOS

[Jove]

Did they foam at the mouth and have heart attacks? :LOS

I certainly do hope so! :quite

It's funny, those two. They've been paired with Nickelodeon and now M. Night Shyamalan. Could you imagine having to deal with such a disdainful coterie and you have to hold it all inside. You can't even confide to a fan, because you can't take the chance that it goes up online.


So, without any word from them, I assume they dispise Nickelodeon for how they handled Book 3, and can't believe what M. Night is doing to the universe they created. :quite

[ReikaiDemon]

I certainly do hope so! :quite

It's funny, those two. They've been paired with Nickelodeon and now M. Night Shyamalan. Could you imagine having to deal with such a disdainful coterie and you have to hold it all inside. You can't even confide to a fan, because you can't take the chance that it goes up online.


So, without any word from them, I assume they dispise Nickelodeon for how they handled Book 3, and can't believe what M. Night is doing to the universe they created. :quite
I wonder if Bryke teamed up with pre-2006 cartoon network, that Avatar would have more supportive backing? <.<

[Manwë Súlimo]

So I have been reading and debating on other sites. A number of people think the cast for the Avatar movie, is in no way shape or form, doesn't even have a hint of racism. I disagree, what do some of you guys/gals think?

I don't think it was racist, just incredibly unwise and disrespectful to the source material.

I certainly do hope so! :quite

It's funny, those two. They've been paired with Nickelodeon and now M. Night Shyamalan. Could you imagine having to deal with such a disdainful coterie and you have to hold it all inside. You can't even confide to a fan, because you can't take the chance that it goes up online.


So, without any word from them, I assume they dispise Nickelodeon for how they handled Book 3, and can't believe what M. Night is doing to the universe they created. :quite

Actually, repeatedly M&B have said how they enjoyed and respected M. Night's work. I don't think they had seen The Happening yet at the time, though.

[taku]

http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/05/13/possible-cg-mock-up-teaser-leaked/

Mock up CG teaser trailer leaked? The concept art looks sweet.

[Superrazien]

^ Nice find its pretty cool. It sucks though that the guy who did all the movie trailers had to die. I miss him.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Cool trailer... WTF, Don LaFontaine's dead?! I remember him from the Geico commercial...

[Jove]

Cool trailer... WTF, Don LaFontaine's dead?! I remember him from the Geico commercial...

He died a while ago.

Obviously, James Garrett should voice the trailer.

[Koi]

Woah woah woah, Rekky. "For the time being??!!!"

The movies have 0% chance of even attempting to approach the thought of glancing at the notion of almost being in the discussion of being a respectable representation of the show. :mad


Also, an Indian Fire Nation seems fine now, until a new Fire Nation Noble character is introduced in Book 3 that kills Aang, steals his Avatar Spirit, slaughters Ozai and conquers the world in his memory. And where will M. Night find someone of Indian descent to play that role, preferably a megalomaniac that looks just like him?? :hmmJove, I'm going to gently remind you that you forgot to fit the Bollywood dance number in.


Also, trailer's been taken down by.. Paramount? :wha Seems there might be some merit to it. Does anyone have an alternate source?

[Superstarseven]

Damn, I missed it entirely.
One piece of advice to people who might re-upload it...don't do it on Youtube. Yes people get a hard-on for video and channel views but it stands a snowball's chance in hell on another video sharing site.
Paramount and Viacom isn't really trolling Livevideo for example.

[ReikaiDemon]

Honestly the Bollywood would(lol) make the movie better

[Jove]

That's strange that it was taken down. I wasn't quite sure of what to make of it; for one thing, Katara looked like the real Katara. Know what I mean?


Edit:

Jove, I'm going to gently remind you that you forgot to fit the Bollywood dance number in.

:uwah

What am I doing?! The twilight of Jove has begun before I even knew it.

[Koi]

Maybe they won't even have time for the Bollywood number. :\ Unless it's on Zuko and Iroh's ship and like, right before he sees the Avataric beam of light, they show clips of dance practice. :awesome


I missed the trailer, damn. And I can't seem to find it on Livevideo,

[Jove]

It really wasn't worth pining for; if you've seen the trailers for the video games, it's not too dissimilar. The same graphics, essentially.

[Superrazien]

Well if anyone missed the mock up CG trailer, here it is. Its not youtube.
http://kiwi.kz/watch/p5y5sluy7p6u

[Superstarseven]

Just saw it, hell yeah this was legit.
The title credit card at the beginning convinced me of that.
It's hard to explain but I can almost sense what they're going for with this film. Perhaps if the Last Airbender is treated with love and care like it's animated brother, it might just survive against the odds and be good.
Either way we'll see what exactly the crew has been up when the teaser is released in June.

Great site by the way to upload this CG animatic teaser, Paramount certainly won't be poking around in there.

[Superstarseven]

Wow guys, seriously. We're awful fans.
Latest episode of Kevin Coppa's PuppetBenders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-MN579Kcw&feature=related

New trailer made for Avatar comics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cqdFcdaQOQ

...And picture of older Katara and Zuko drawn by the show's Korean Animation director. We'll be seeeing this as ammunition for the Zutarians for years to come.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/Primuler/259eec6f.jpg

[Koi]

Zuko has a GIANT FOREARM.

[Mider T]

Something I was looking at in a old Nick Mag and made me lol

"A fortune-teller predicted that Katara's true love is a very powerful bender. Will it be the Avatar, or will fate lead her in another, more fiery direction?"

[Jove]

Wow guys, seriously. We're awful fans.
Latest episode of Kevin Coppa's PuppetBenders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-MN579Kcw&feature=related

I'm not a fan of the Puppetbenders. The humor's too self-reflexive.


The comics, however, look incredible.


Where'd you find that, Koi? I'm torn between :pek and :LOS.

[Koi]

Oh Jesus, that's probably where it all started! :uwah

[Superstarseven]

What did Koi find? I'm confused.

[Jove]

What did Koi find? I'm confused.

Disregard that. I got posts jumbled. I meant you. Please tell me that poster is yours, that you took that picture.

[Superstarseven]

Yeah I found it through Deviantart and it led to a Livejournal link which I'll provide right now. Apparently this picture is close to a year old since Season 2 premiered in Korea around June of 2008.
http://community.livejournal.com/katara_zuko/1308178.html

There's already a poster who's made it her Avatar with the caption "Screw Bryke, we have the mighty korean animators."

Even in the best case scenario where she might be playing it up for laughs...I don't like it one bit. Still seems highly ungrateful.

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah I found it through Deviantart and it led to a Livejournal link which I'll provide right now. Apparently this picture is close to a year old since Season 2 premiered in Korea around June of 2008.
http://community.livejournal.com/katara_zuko/1308178.html

There's already a poster who's made it her Avatar with the caption "Screw Bryke, we have the mighty korean animators."

Even in the best case scenario where she might be playing it up for laughs...I don't like it one bit. Still seems highly ungrateful.
Screw the rules! I have MONEY!tencharacters

[Jove]

So according to Frank Marshall, that CGI trailer from several days ago is:

"Not the trailer, just a sizzle reel for Nick Upfronts."


So it's real, but it's now gone because some dude pointed it out to him on Twitter. According to this clueless idiot: "Hated to narc them out but its E. Europe & it seemed like it was 4 suits. Despite i know the story, I don't want spoilers."


Oy Gevalt... this doesn't sound too reticent: " is this the real deal trailer mockup? http://tinyurl.com/q3nuly if so, you better tell legal that Kazakhstan is infringing." What a braindead, vacant wretch; what purpose did this serve?

[Manwë Súlimo]

New trailer made for Avatar comics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cqdFcdaQOQ


I wasn't too interested, but then I watched this... and it looks frickin' AWESOME! Toph vs. Bumi... already heard about it, looks like it's going to be sweet. Aang with the dragon and egg probably is a flashback to an adventure with Kuzon I heard about- Aang was in his old seasons 1 and 2 outfit. Sokka vs. Zuko with swords is new to me- but Sokka's sword looks normal; I guess this means it happens after Sozin's Comet and Sokka ends up not finding his meteor sword.

As for the Zutara pic... cool-looking, but it means nothing. NOTHING, I tell you! Except that the Korean animators are closet Zutarians.

[ReikaiDemon]

Actually, the Korean animators probably thought Zutara was more popular for the American audiences, so to reel in more cash, they pander to them. I heard Maiko is MUCH MUCH more popular in Korea

[masterriku]

but Sokka's sword looks normal; I guess this means it happens after Sozin's Comet and Sokka ends up not finding his meteor sword


He never found space sword WWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYY!???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also Zukos face pretty much sums up my opinion.

[ReikaiDemon]

He never found space sword WWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYY!???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also Zukos face pretty much sums up my opinion.
Eh, it's only stainless steel, Sokka would be one lucky bastard if he found out that the meteor piece he gave Toph gave her cancer, then she kicked that cancer's ass, ate it's children, and scared off all the cancer in the world.

[Jove]

Eh, it's only stainless steel, Sokka would be one lucky bastard if he found out that the meteor piece he gave Toph gave her cancer, then she kicked that cancer's ass, ate it's children, and scared off all the cancer in the world.

To that point, I peg:


Aang to eradicate fibromyalgia
Katara takes care of vascular headaches
Zuko has a staring contest with pulmonary disorders and wins
Sokka gets shingles and it's not pretty at all
Iroh goes medieval on Parkinson's
Ozai obliterates influenza
Azula does a number on alcoholism
Hawky is adorable
The Dai Li systematically disposes of Alzheimer's
Bumi just goddamn destroys Osteoporosis
Piandao laughs right in the face of Sleep Apnea
Rheumatoid Arthritis, you have met your match and her name is Avatar Yangchen

And so on and so on.

[ReikaiDemon]

To that point, I peg:


Aang to eradicate fibromyalgia
Katara takes care of vascular headaches
Zuko has a staring contest with pulmonary disorders and wins
Sokka gets shingles and it's not pretty at all
Iroh goes medieval on Parkinson's
Ozai obliterates influenza
Azula does a number on alcoholism
Hawky is adorable
The Dai Li systematically disposes of Alzheimer's
Bumi just goddamn destroys Osteoporosis
Piandao laughs right in the face of Sleep Apnea
Rheumatoid Arthritis, you have met your match and her name is Avatar Yangchen

And so on and so on.
Mmmm, Avatar pills

Things sure have been quiet since the ATLA Corporation devised a cure to the zombie virii of Umbrella

[Koi]

I would take Avatar vitamins.

[Superstarseven]

Avatar Vitamins?

blueberry-flavored chalky goodness.

[Superrazien]

Heres more movie news

I guess filming is going better than i thought cause filming has reached halfway point a full 2 days earlier than they thought they'd do...
Fellow site http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/ and the twitter account of Frank Marshall ( http://twitter.com/LeDoctor ) informed us of production...

As you should know...Greenland filming was over months ago(So Water Tribe scenes should be done,YAY) and they are now filming in parts of Philadelphia...and now in,North Phili....Filming continues in the old engine manufacturing warehouse...with all kinds of different sets set up to film.
More production news says,that a wrap on filming should be expected in July...so lets all just hope that the "2 days earlier" thing and the "July" thing just stays that way because im'a hang myself if they push it back(Jk)...like they did with Harry Potter(Cries) Even if i was able to read the book through that time..i still wished they didn't do it!!And its taking forever!!

More in news....is that Frank on twitter warned us that we should keep a heads up for the First Looks of Zuko and Aang...cant wait!!
I just wished they released a pic of Noah Ringer..that way,i bet some fake pics would come fast..and maybe i could have used them for a fake poster,ya know?

http://www.lastairbenderfans.com/

[ReikaiDemon]

Avatar Vitamins?

blueberry-flavored chalky goodness.
No, GUMMI :iria

[Dragonus Nesha]

Avatar Vitamins?

blueberry-flavored chalky goodness.
No, GUMMI :iriaMade from all natural ingredients: bananas and onions.

[Sylar]

For some reason the throught of live action Aang makes me think of live action Goku. :-(

[masterriku]

Apparently it will be true to the source
It will even include the most important part of book 1 *DRUM ROLL*
THE GREAT DIVIDE

and we all know that book 3 will have the awesomesauce that is*DRUM ROLL*...........WAIT FOR IT

THE BEACH



:LOS

[taku]

http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/05/22/meet-avatar-aang-and-prince-zuko/

First pics of Aang and Zuko are online!

[Manwë Súlimo]

For some reason the throught of live action Aang makes me think of live action Goku. :-(

-_- NO! If God has any mercy, he will protect TLA from being on the same level of fail as DBE. It'll still probably be fail, but please, not THAT much!

http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/05/22/meet-avatar-aang-and-prince-zuko/

First pics of Aang and Zuko are online!

Noah Ringer/Aang's tattoos aren't blue... that's not right! They better still be blue when he goes Avatar state.

The ring of fire Dev Patel/Zuko's standing in looks weird... I'm guessing it's only for this first-look photo.

[Jove]

and we all know that book 3 will have the awesomesauce that is*DRUM ROLL*...........WAIT FOR IT

[SPOILER]THE BEACH[/SPOILER

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/fsd.gif

Noah Ringer/Aang's tattoos aren't blue... that's not right! They better still be blue when he goes Avatar state.

The ring of fire Dev Patel/Zuko's standing in looks weird... I'm guessing it's only for this first-look photo.

I've heard the arrows might be digitally enhanced. Looks like that might be the case. I think Dev looks great.

[Zen-aku]

So Zuko's Scar is gonna be Cgi? [I cant see it on him in the pic]

[Jove]

So Zuko's Scar is gonna be Cgi? [I cant see it on him in the pic]

I'd hope not. It's a difficult angle and distance. Perhaps it's just less gruesome than the series.

[stab-o-tron5000]

I'd hope not. It's a difficult angle and distance. Perhaps it's just less gruesome than the series.

I'm assuming the scar shape is similar, but it's not as "red" as Zuko's. Keeping it closer to his actual skin tone would make it look more realistic.

I actually like the more stylized tattoo's for Aang. A solid blue tattoo would probably look too... cartoony (as ironic of a complaint that may be).

[Noah]

Flashing blue no only makes things more awesome, Jove.

I approve of movie Zuko and Aang completely. I don't really really see how Noah could look any more like Aang (waahh not asian boohoo). The kid's got big ears and the new outfit works for me. It's different, but it still feels....airbendery.

Maybe that shot is pre-scar Zuko, but we can't see that side of his face anyway. I'd bitch about his hair (assuming it's not pre-scar), but topknot Zuko was an awful design. :zaru

[Zen-aku]

Flashing blue no only makes things more awesome, Jove.

I approve of movie Zuko and Aang completely. I don't really really see how Noah could look any more like Aang (waahh not asian boohoo). The kid's got big ears and the new outfit works for me. It's different, but it still feels....airbendery.

Maybe that shot is pre-scar Zuko, but we can't see that side of his face anyway. I'd bitch about his hair (assuming it's not pre-scar), but topknot Zuko was an awful design. :zaru

Only in Retrospect:amuse

i can kinda see the left side of his face and it doesn't look burned

[Jove]

I'd bitch about his hair (assuming it's not pre-scar), but topknot Zuko was an awful design. :zaru

It was cool at the time. I liked it better than Bruce Lee Zuko. It just so happened that the merchandising people decided that Topknot Zuko was the only design, ruining it for everyone. :notrust

[Manwë Súlimo]

I actually like the more stylized tattoo's for Aang. A solid blue tattoo would probably look too... cartoony (as ironic of a complaint that may be).

Yes, ironic... seeing as the show's based on a cartoon, and I like cartoons, I still want the tattoos to be blue.

Maybe that shot is pre-scar Zuko, but we can't see that side of his face anyway. I'd bitch about his hair (assuming it's not pre-scar), but topknot Zuko was an awful design. :zaru


Oh, right. Dang it, I forgot about the ponytail. (It wasn't a topknot). Yet another thing messed up. I don't care if it's lame, it want the movie based on my favorite show to be accurate, damnit! BTW, Zuko had the same ponytail before he was scarred- he just wasn't bald everywhere else.

Of course, this could be a pic of him mid-season 2... somehow.

[Jove]

Oh, right. Dang it, I forgot about the ponytail. (It wasn't a topknot). Yet another thing messed up. I don't care if it's lame, it want the movie based on my favorite show to be accurate, damnit! BTW, Zuko had the same ponytail before he was scarred- he just wasn't bald everywhere else.

Of course, this could be a pic of him mid-season 2... somehow.

I have a dearth of faith of respect in M. Night, so I'm ambivalent towards how excruciatingly accurate I want the movies to be. I lean towards the converse; it's much more important that the content of the series be exact.

[Superrazien]

Wow I tried to like these, while they are not god dreadful like DBE I still find myself hating how Aang and Zuko look. Is it me or is the kid who plays Aang a little bit to fat to be Aang.

[Chee]

I have to admit, it looks pretty good. Still not happy with Zuko's actor choice though.

I love the arrow tattoos.

[Agmaster]

Just give me a solid 10 minutes or 12 pages or Sokka being a believable badass in canon around other main characters and I'll be good.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/fsd.gif



I've heard the arrows might be digitally enhanced. Looks like that might be the case. I think Dev looks great.
That is the case many times with makeup. With the varibility in lighting, filters and other factors, colors don't look the way you want them to on film. So things like digital enhancement is needed to balance out how it looks in different lighting and filters.
I have a dearth of faith of respect in M. Night, so I'm ambivalent towards how excruciatingly accurate I want the movies to be. I lean towards the converse; it's much more important that the content of the series be exact.

It's probably a benefit for the actor kind of thing, a baldcap might look silly, or be too much work, or having your head shaved for a role limits any other kind of role you can get, until it grows out.

[Ema Skye]

Looking good so far, though Aang's arrow looks like it was drawn by a crayon and Dev's great :ho (hoping his scar would be added in for later pictures)

[Jove]

Just give me a solid 10 minutes or 12 pages or Sokka being a believable badass in canon around other main characters and I'll be good.

I think you might want to skip the first movie. :urahaha


I'm dying for the trailer now. I'm expecting the concerns over the arrows will be obliterated when we see the first Avatar State. Until then, I continue to presume that the arrows we see in the picture are for Graphics reasons.

[Linkdarkside]

http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/05/22/meet-avatar-aang-and-prince-zuko/

First pics of Aang and Zuko are online!oh god why did i click the link:cry

i i wonder why dint they pick asians i mean we in the USA have asians and im pletty sure Canada and Autralia have too.:notrust

[Dragonus Nesha]

And I was looking forward to Zuko's ponytail. :pek

As long as they don't cut (pardon the pun) Haru's moustache.

[Jove]

And I was looking forward to Zuko's ponytail. :pek

As long as they don't cut (pardon the pun) Haru's moustache.

That thing couldn't even work in the goddamn Avatar Universe; we don't need to see it brought into the real world. :pek

[Superstarseven]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494

[Jove]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494


Uh-oh. :oh

[Chee]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494

Not happy with this. At all. :-(

[Superrazien]

Wow thats retarded.

[The Cheat]

How hard it is to hire the proper minorities for the characters. Jesus christ, directors, its not that hard to make a good adaptation.

[Chee]

Where. The. Fuck. Is. His. Goddamn. Scar.

[The Cheat]

I had no idea you were an avatar fan, chee.

[Chee]

Huge fan. Just never really posted on here.

[Jove]

Zuko is 16 at the beginning of the show.

Dev Patel is 19 years old.

Why does Dev look skewed older? This deserves Sokkapalm:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Chee]

I don't really mind the age, its very subtle. I mind the no scar, no bald, no pony-tail, and no pale skin.

[RAGING BONER]

THAT BETTER NOT BE FUCKING ZUKO! :C:gun

[Chee]

Point that gun towards M. Night. :ho:gun

[Jove]

I don't really mind the age, its very subtle. I mind the no scar, no bald, no pony-tail, and no pale skin.

You didn't know Dev Patel was playing Zuko?

Again, M. Night has made the Fire Nation Indian so he be Fire Nation. I wouldn't be surprised if he was War Minister Qin, or Piandao, or some older version of Zuko in an epilogue he decides to graft onto the third movie without any consultation with Mike & Bryan.

[Chee]

You didn't know Dev Patel was playing Zuko?

Again, M. Night has made the Fire Nation Indian so he be Fire Nation. I wouldn't be surprised if he was War Minister Qin, or Piandao, or some older version of Zuko in an epilogue he decides to graft onto the third movie without any consultation with Mike & Bryan.

Oh, I knew. I'm just still pissed off at the casting choice.

[Jove]

Oh, I knew. I'm just still pissed off at the casting choice.

I was certain I recalled your antipathy towards the casting. If it makes you feel better, stare at that picture and then close your eyes and imagine JMac in Dev's place. Then open your eyes again. It's a manipulated Utopia.


I'm fine without the topknot and baldness, but that is not acceptable.


I'd also like to see a better quality image. With what exactly are those coats lined? :notrust

[Bluebeard]

I'm suprised about the absence of the scar. Most adaptions take away things from characters, but Zuko's scar in my opinion is a important part of his character.

[RAGING BONER]

Point that gun towards M. Night. :ho:gunif it wasnt for 6th sense this asshole wouldnt even be in the movie bizz :C


Again, M. Night has made the Fire Nation Indian so he be Fire Nation.
there are actually pale indians out there...
I'm suprised about the absence of the scar. Most adaptions take away things from characters, but Zuko's scar in my opinion is a important part of his character.
the word you're looking for is "defining"

[Superrazien]

Zuko does have his scar guys its just hard to notice. Though idk why he still has an eyebrow. Either way it doesn't matter they screwed up big time, both Aang and Zuko from the actors, to the wardrobe look nothing like the cartoon. In my eyes this movie is setting up for fail. Maybe not Mega Epic Fail like DBE but still a fail.

[Linkdarkside]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494well at least they changed cultures so not white Eskimos.

[Koi]

Oh man, Dev does look great as Zuko, and Noah's not looking bad himself. Okay sure, arrows and scar and hair, but despite that, I think it's the costumes that tie everything together decently. Even if they're not totally accurate.

[Ema Skye]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494

Why did they make his scar look so weak? :D:

[Chee]

I love the costumes, I'm in love with Aang. Perfect casting on appearance wise, hopefully he can act too.

As for Zuko, wax off that eyebrow. Use more red makeup.

[Superstarseven]

I believe the Water Tribe is still supposed to be based on Inuit culture so...yeah, White Eskimos. I mean look at the kid playing Aang, ever seen a young Shaolin monk look like him?

[Jove]

there are actually pale indians out there...

Yes, but my point that M. Night is a egocentrically manipulative debaser.


I believe the Water Tribe is still supposed to be based on Inuit culture so...yeah, White Eskimos. I mean look at the kid playing Aang, ever seen a young Shaolin monk look like him?

No, but he looks like Aang.


Oh man, Dev does look great as Zuko, and Noah's not looking bad himself. Okay sure, arrows and scar and hair, but despite that, I think it's the costumes that tie everything together decently. Even if they're not totally accurate.

Three cosmetically idiosyncratic character traits. :pek

[Chee]

You use some big words there Jove. :pek

[Zen-aku]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494

the scar could be a little more defined, but i guess realistically it wouldn't be all bright and puffy

over all it aint bad

the fire nation soldiers even have the skull masks

[Bluebeard]

if it wasnt for 6th sense this asshole wouldnt even be in the movie bizz :C

there are actually pale indians out there...

the word you're looking for is "defining"

No I use important because the scar is important. He got if from his own father and it was one of the reasons why he decided to hunt the Avatar.

[Chee]

Defining and important. It's what makes Zuko, Zuko, both physically and emotionally.

[Jove]

You use some big words there Jove. :pek

Nothing less for someone that wears the Avatar title. :pek


That's the second time in two days that an NF member has mentioned that pretension. And That was the toned down version, too. :(

[Noah]

So.....where's the problem? I see a scar that has healed realistically and a complete lack of a ponytail. Only thing I can find wrong is the eyebrow that has grown through melted skin. But then again, maybe it'll be taken out in post. Dev's gotta keep his brows symmetrical, I guess. :zaru

[Chee]

Realistic burn scars:

http://i42.tinypic.com/s5xzq8.png

http://www.medscape.com/content/2003/00/45/79/457930/art-w457930.deml.fig1.jpg

http://www.centreofthecell.org/assets/images/R1_Scar_on_body_2.jpg

[RAGING BONER]

Dev Pattel...i'm not familiar with the name. Is that Kumar?


EDIT: the saying "Kill it with fire" takes on a whole new meaning when you see the results eh?

[Jove]

Dev Pattel...i'm not familiar with the name. Is that Kumar?

He's the kid from Slumdog Millionaire. They landed him when JMac proved to be unbearable... ALLEGEDLY.

[Chee]

He's Jamal on Slumdog Millionare.

[Nizuma Eiji]

^OMFG WHY!!!!!!!? Those burn marks were fucking disgusting. :(

But Dev is acceptable. He's not the best looking Zuko, but he's alright. Thank Samuel L. Jackson he doesn't have the bitch ass ponytail. Bruce Lee Zuko = Jesus. And OMFG Noah is gonna be the perfect Aang. Hopefully he doesn't ruin it with shitty acting.

@Jove
So I notice we're using the same sig. Agni Kai in 15 mins, winner keeps sig. :LOS

[Chee]

I was expecting one hot beef cake to be Zuko. :-(

Dev is attractive but...doesn't seem like Zuko to me.

[Jove]

@Jove
So I notice we're using the same sig. Agni Kai in 15 mins, winner keeps sig. :LOS

Well, it's you making the salute, there's nothing I can do but fall to my knees, kowtow, and hope that in your mercy you leave me with a Live-Action Zuko scar and not a Series Zuko scar. :LOS

But since I made it, I know that we actually don't have the same. You have Eijisalute1, I have Eijisalute2, which is smaller so I can fit it into my sig.

[Nizuma Eiji]

Indeed. Well I find your accusation of me stealing this sig from you to be quite shallow & pedantic.

[Noah]

Ok. So maybe Zuko's scar was only a second degree burn. Or maybe it'll get adjusted in post. Either way, those examples are extreme. How long did those burn victims have their scars for? All scars will fade with time, even though they won't heal. Even a third degree burn might fade to the color in the shot if it's properly treated for three years.

Or, again, post production. Piccolo was a nice white color during principle for the FANTASTIC (:zaru) Dragonball movie, but he was green in the final (awesome) product.

[Jove]

Ok. So maybe Zuko's scar was only a second degree burn. Or maybe it'll get adjusted in post. Either way, those examples are extreme. How long did those burn victims have their scars for? All scars will fade with time, even though they won't heal. Even a third degree burn might fade to the color in the shot if it's properly treated for three years.

Or, again, post production. Piccolo was a nice white color during principle for the FANTASTIC (:zaru) Dragonball movie, but he was green in the final (awesome) product.

It's a good point. I can't be too indignant right now. Hopefully the trailer settles things in a month, either by quelling or inciting.

[Chee]

Obviously the degree of the burn is told visually by the cartoon. His scar looks like the scars I posted, so it must've been pretty darn bad. Really, it doesn't matter, as long as he has the scar, I just wish it was more visible.

If it is done during post-production, that would be pretty darn stupid. How hard is it to grab latex and makeup?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494

The scar is not noticeable enough. And the designs are all messed up.

I'm really, really feeling like cussing out M. Night right now. But he's not here for me to do it.:(

Does anyone know where he lives? :kukuku

[Chee]

I like the costume designs. A+ for whoever did that.

[Noah]

Obviously the degree of the burn is told visually by the cartoon. His scar looks like the scars I posted, so it must've been pretty darn bad. Really, it doesn't matter, as long as he has the scar, I just wish it was more visible.

If it is done during post-production, that would be pretty darn stupid. How hard is it to grab latex and makeup?

I'd imagine it ends up being cheaper to add it digitally in post. Budget is really all that matters most of the time.

[Chee]

I'd imagine it ends up being cheaper to add it digitally in post. Budget is really all that matters most of the time.

Dunno about that. You can either pay the make up artists or you can pay the CGI artists. Probably even.

Anyways, I despise CGI on small things like that. Make up would be a lot easier, just paste that scar on and you have it on film. I'm the type of person that reserves CGI for huge space battles and giant monsters attacking cities. :zaru

[Koi]

I like the costumes too. I also like Asian kitsch. So it's win-win for me, really.

Seriously though, I wanna crawl into that cloak thing he's wearing. :3 I feel like it would be very warm, which makes sense, being that they're at the SOUTH POLE. Although, I've never heard Dev with an American accent..

[Jove]

I like the costumes too. I also like Asian kitsch. So it's win-win for me, really.

Seriously though, I wanna crawl into that cloak thing he's wearing. :3 I feel like it would be very warm, which makes sense, being that they're at the SOUTH POLE. Although, I've never heard Dev with an American accent..

What if he doesn't have one? What if the Fire Nation have British accents? Received! Yorkshire! Cockneys, Mockneys, Mancunian... :X3

[RAGING BONER]

I was expecting one hot beef cake to be Zuko. :-(

Dev is attractive but...doesn't seem like Zuko to me.

he looks like some guy i'd buy candy bars or gasoline from, definitely not the prince of a fire nation :pek

[ReikaiDemon]

Look at this.


http://pics.livejournal.com/dndragonmare/pic/0006z494
God Damn, he looks like a weak little nerd, even Dustin Diamond would make a better Zuko than him.

Why do the helmets look so....Grecian?
Hell, it would be a more faithful adaptation than M.Night's rendition if they set it in the future, and made the soldier the Overwatch guards
Guru Pathik will be ironically Asian I bet.

[RAGING BONER]

you know what i wish the big "M Night" twist at the end will be?


that he's not the fucking director.

[Chee]

you know what i wish the big "M Night" twist at the end will be?


that he's not the fucking director.

I wish I could rep you but I'm at my limit. :lmao

[Superrazien]

I think this is the air temple
http://i43.tinypic.com/2qiramu.jpg

Full body Zuko

http://avatarmovie.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/3738301_350x554.jpg?w=350&h=554
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/

[Zen-aku]

I think this is the air temple
http://i43.tinypic.com/2qiramu.jpg

Full body Zuko

http://avatarmovie.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/3738301_350x554.jpg?w=350&h=554
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/

iam loving that winter coat

[Chee]

BOOM MIKE IS SHOWING. :uwah

:LOS

[fato]

Hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

[Koi]

Ahar, I like the FN ushanka.

[ghstwrld]

This is movie is going to be one massive let down.

[Zen-aku]

This is movie is going to be one massive let down.

how do you know have you seen it yet?

[tari101190]

damn...zuko and the fire benders look good. just make the scar a bit more noticeable maybe.

i'm hoping this movie isn't a let down like most adaptations this year. so far only star trek was epic.

water benderes...please don't let me down.

oh, and the cgi bending better not look corny.

[RAGING BONER]

oh god i just pictured the actor playing Aang lusting after that annoying bitch Katara in live action...

shit, i just threw up a little in my mouth :D:

[Jove]

oh god i just pictured the actor playing Aang lusting after that annoying bitch Katara in live action...

shit, i just threw up a little in my mouth :D:

Get used to that feeling, because real-life Zutara looks to be as bilious as expected.


Also, I'm not a fan of the FN helmets. I don't see where the inspiration was to change the ones from the series. Open-faced looks better, but I'll forgive it if the skullface-plate ones are retained.

I'm conflicted on the set. If it's Southern Air Temple, I'm fine with it. If it's Northern Water Tribe, change that lukewarm toleration for downright antipathy. But it might look transcendent on film. You know, if M. Night uses sane camera angles. And what are the odds of that? :notrust

[ReikaiDemon]

you know what i wish the big "M Night" twist at the end will be?


that he's not the fucking director.
Silly, there would be no point in firing him AFTER the movie was made

You know those 90's suck ass Batman movies after the only good ones?

Here's to hoping some enterprising creative minds will reboot the movie of avatar movies later to live up to better expectations. Well, lets just keep that in mind if the movie bombs.

.....

WAIT! What if this is just some damn plan to make suckage movies to LOWER expectations so much, any other movie would be vastly better by comparison?! DEAR GOD, this is bigger anything we let our necks step into :uwah
M.Night, you dirty, thievish, magnificent bastard, you got us all on puppet strings. You see, this is how they get money from us. Make an adaptation on our favorite series or whatever, leak a shitload of detail deemed fail by the fans, therefore, making the fans go watch the movie. Why would the loyal fans want to watch a bad adaptation? Bad adaptation, that's it, loyal fans will go to the movie, just for the sake of seeing how bad it is, to fuel their wrath, or to make fun of it. For whatever reason, good or bad adaptations will ALWAYS reel in loyal fans, money is assured, the cycle continues, and the whole country is being made into a giant transmutation cir-I mean, er, wrong conspiracy.
:ninja
*takes suicide pill*
oh god i just pictured the actor playing Aang lusting after that annoying bitch Katara in live action...

shit, i just threw up a little in my mouth :D:
Five words, four of them are names
Shia Lebouf and Jessica Alba
:D:

[Ziko]

Air Temple looks good, firebender soldiers look good, Zuko look's retarded... Sorry, but I didn't like the actor..

[Manwë Súlimo]

This is movie is going to be one massive let down.

To be a let down, there must be high expectations for it. Which disappeared the moment M. Night was announced as director.

[RAGING BONER]

Five words, four of them are names
Shia Lebouf and Jessica Alba

wait...what?

THEY'RE in the movie?


Alba can't act for shit and as for Shia...whose he gonna play? Sokka?

[Koi]

What? They're definitely not in the movies..

[Seto Kaiba]

I think this is the air temple
http://i43.tinypic.com/2qiramu.jpg

Full body Zuko

http://avatarmovie.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/3738301_350x554.jpg?w=350&h=554
http://lastairbenderfilm.com/

THAT'S ZUKO!!!?

I haven't been keeping up for a long while, have they released photos for any of the other characters yet?

[Dragonus Nesha]

THAT'S ZUKO!!!?

I haven't been keeping up for a long while, have they released photos for any of the other characters yet?Only Ang and Zuko:http://lastairbenderfilm.com/2009/05/22/meet-avatar-aang-and-prince-zuko/

First pics of Aang and Zuko are online!I was expecting the Fire Nation costumes and armor to contain more red.

[Seto Kaiba]

I know some people aren't going to like it when I say this, but I honestly feel an asian actor should be playing Aang...

[ReikaiDemon]

wait...what?

THEY'RE in the movie?


Alba can't act for shit and as for Shia...whose he gonna play? Sokka?
Uh, no, I'm using an example, from the dumb human parts of Transformers

[Superrazien]

I know some people aren't going to like it when I say this, but I honestly feel an asian actor should be playing Aang...

And Zuko, Iroh, Ozai, Zhao, Roku, Jeong Jeong. Oh and we can't for get the darker skinned people like the ones playing the Fire Nation would be better suited to play the water tribe, instead we got pasty white people.

[Zen-aku]

And Zuko, Iroh, Ozai, Zhao, Roku, Jeong Jeong. Oh and we can't for get the darker skinned people like the ones playing the Fire Nation would be better suited to play the water tribe, instead we got pasty white people.

Technically Zuko, Iroh, Ozai are played by Asians :edu

[ReikaiDemon]

Technically Zuko, Iroh, Ozai are played by Asians :edu
Depends whether on how you take the word subcontinent :edu

[Chee]

Oh yea, who is playing Iroh anyways?

[Zen-aku]

Depends whether on how you take the word subcontinent :edu

:wth what are you saying that their the wrong kind of Asians ?

[ReikaiDemon]

:wth what are you saying that their the wrong kind of Asians ?
There's a wrong kind of asian? :O

[Koi]

Oh yea, who is playing Iroh anyways?
The dude Tony's stuck in the cave with in Iron Man.

No seriously.

[RAGING BONER]

Uh, no, I'm using an example, from the dumb human parts of Transformers
god, don't scare me like that!
The dude Tony's stuck in the cave with in Iron Man.

No seriously.

Sigh :facepalm

~~~~~

not even the miracle that saved christmas can save this movie from M. Night.

[Gunners]

I thought they would have gotten some short fat chinese man to play Iroh, like a kung fu character.

I see this movie flopping more than Dragonball evolution, I'm not even going to hold hope for this garbage.

The only reason I check this thread, is I keep hoping they will start the series again in some shape or form.

[Superrazien]

I thought they would have gotten some short fat chinese man to play Iroh, like a kung fu character.

I see this movie flopping more than Dragonball evolution, I'm not even going to hold hope for this garbage.

The only reason I check this thread, is I keep hoping they will start the series again in some shape or form.

I always thought Sammo Hung should of been Iroh.http://www.wu-jing.org/News/images/2004/2004_06_07_Sammo_Hung_tkp.jpghttp://images.absoluteanime.com/avatar_the_last_airbender/-iroh.jpgI don't see this flopping as bad as DBE, while it doesn't look very accurate to Avatar in many aspects for no apparent reason, it is still at least based in the Avatarverse, DBE was trying to be based in our universe.

[Nizuma Eiji]

The dude Tony's stuck in the cave with in Iron Man.

No seriously.

/Reaches for gun by the speaker.

[Chee]

The dude Tony's stuck in the cave with in Iron Man.

No seriously.

...he's a weasel though...wtf...seriously miscasted. I wanna shoot M. Night so badly.

[ReikaiDemon]

...he's a weasel though...wtf...seriously miscasted. I wanna shoot M. Night so badly.
So we'll see Robert Downy Jr. as Toph?

[Koi]

Ah shit, there was an edit of Toph's face on a green Mark III..

[Manwë Súlimo]

Oh, Yinsen from Iron Man is going to play Iroh? That's not too bad, he was alright in Iron Man. I can see him pulling off an eccentric old uncle roll, he just needs to put some weight on.

[Thelonious]

I lol'd at Indian Firebenders.

in b4 fiery Jai Ho.

[Chee]

in b4 fiery Jai Ho.

Pussycat Dolls fucked that song up.

[Gamble]

Uh, no, I'm using an example, from the dumb human parts of Transformers
you'll be pleased to know that Shia is getting his funk on with Megan Fox, then, and not Jessica Alba.

in b4 fiery Jai Ho.
lold forever

[Koi]

I lol'd at Indian Firebenders.

in b4 fiery Jai Ho.

I've been waiting on it FOR FUCKING EVER, actually. :< You know, like a big firebending move and someone macro'ing JAI HO, BITCH in.

Or wait, you know what? Let's wait on that until we see Azula.

[Jove]

I've been waiting on it FOR FUCKING EVER, actually. :< You know, like a big firebending move and someone macro'ing JAI HO, BITCH in.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/tfh.gif


Let the movie try to retain some dignity, Koi. :pek

[masterriku]

This shouldn't be on the second page.


time for an old reference that no one will possibly get

sokka wank wank

[The Boss]

Damn.. Zuko actor is fucking ugly. :zaru

[Jove]

Oh, Yinsen from Iron Man is going to play Iroh? That's not too bad, he was alright in Iron Man. I can see him pulling off an eccentric old uncle roll, he just needs to put some weight on.


Ah yes... that...

Well, the rumor is that Iroh will very possibly be normal sized.

I repeat: MOVIE IROH MIGHT NOT BE FAT.

In fact, let me just go ahead and quote it, since that dude deleted all his posts when his name got out, so this might be one of the few places you csan find this:


Also, that idiot that's an extra on the shoot provided this tidbit:

But one thing I'm pretty sure of right now is... Uncle Iroh IS skinny. Yeah, It's strange that no ones complaining about that, but whatevs. Iroh is being played by Shaun Taub, and from what one of the extras that HAS been on set told me, he's not wearing any padding. But it's too late to start complaining now


http://bombombombomwooooo.com/



Also, in all this movie talk, we forgot to commemorate the one year anniversary of the leak of The Boiling Rock Parts 1 & 2 by the Blockbuster guy: April 25-26, 2008. Still one of the greatest days in the fandom.

[Manwë Súlimo]

I know, I'm not happy that he doesn't have appropriate body mass for Iroh either, but at least I can't hold anything against his acting.

Ah yes, when the Boiling Rock was leaked... kind of like when The Day of Black Sun was released. I felt guilty watching TDoBS, because I knew it would play just a couple weeks later, but not so with TBR- it didn't play for months! The Nick execs had it coming to them.

[Byakuya]

http://io9.com/5271126/can-you-identify-photos-of-iron-man-2s-mysterious-facility

looks awful.

[masterriku]

I miss the days when people just used good all fashion animation for movies about their animated show don't you?

[Zen-aku]

I miss the days when people just used good all fashion animation for movies about their animated show don't you?

:oh *thinks back to tom and jerry the movie*......no....not really

[Jove]

I know, I'm not happy that he doesn't have appropriate body mass for Iroh either, but at least I can't hold anything against his acting.

Ah yes, when the Boiling Rock was leaked... kind of like when The Day of Black Sun was released. I felt guilty watching TDoBS, because I knew it would play just a couple weeks later, but not so with TBR- it didn't play for months! The Nick execs had it coming to them.

I justified it because it was coming out on DVD anyway 10 days later, and really, is there any sanctity left when an episode of a currently airing show is debuted on DVD? Oy.

Mike and Bryan's commentary on WAT is pretty amusing because of it... you can hear how disappointed they were that episodes titles were being revealed through tvshowsondvd.com, due to Nick's scheduling. Though having those Dongbufeng cretins do it should have been even worse.

I did manage to avoid DOBS, but that was a hack, anyway. I was also avoiding the fandom because of the UK Nick fiasco, which I'm still bitter about. I missed all the histrionics! But I was more enraged that the Dutch got it aired the week before. I mean, honestly. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Seto Kaiba]

:oh *thinks back to tom and jerry the movie*......no....not really

It could be done, but no one messes with 2D in theaters anymore...

[ReikaiDemon]

I don't think M. Night is taking this seriously at all :oh

Dammit, they should just let a japanese production make a really fucking high quality OVA, and advertise the heeeeeelllllll out of it.

[Chee]

M. Night wrote it as well. I'm expecting "cheese and crackers" to come up in a series moment.

[Banhammer]

patel looks good'nuff, Aang on another hand.

Did somebody forget to turn on his pre-puberty?

[Lilykt7]

okokok i'm not gonna lie...when I saw the pictures? A little excited. Costumes look good. Like, not cheesy cartoon turned into live action decent but live action fantasy adventure good.

:argh screw you guys I'm gonna wait for the movie to come out before I hate on it. As long as it has the essential story and feeling to it and as long as the actors can act then whatever. Bring it on.

[Superrazien]

M. Night wrote it as well. I'm expecting "cheese and crackers" to come up in a series moment.

hmmmm Yess
http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/anim/book2/215/sokka_grin_extralarge.gif

[Jove]

:argh screw you guys I'm gonna wait for the movie to come out before I hate on it. As long as it has the essential story and feeling to it and as long as the actors can act then whatever. Bring it on.


I believe that's what we all desire, but it's hard to have faith in it's enactment. At this point, ] it's more related to hatred for M. Night. Once the trailer comes out, the sides will become more firmly entrenched.


hmmmm Yess
http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/anim/book2/215/sokka_grin_extralarge.gif

How the hell are you hotlinking from SokkaGetsNoRespect.com?! They certainly never let me get away with it. :mad

[Koi]

Actually, whatever he's linking comes up as a no-hotlinking thing for me.

[Jove]

Actually, whatever he's linking comes up as a no-hotlinking thing for me.

Yes! I'm not the only one that was worked over by SGNR's hotlinking bollocks. :X3


I went to the image location url and after that it's come up for me every time. But this is the gif he linking to:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cyl003.jpg


**needs smiley just like it**

[Noah]

What? :LOS isn't enough? Just add Sokka hair to it like you always do.

[Jove]

What? :LOS isn't enough? Just add Sokka hair to it like you always do.

And I'd have to correct the color; unlike M. Night, I value ethnic authenticity. :quite

[The Boss]

Oh god.. I can't still get over the fact how ugly Zuko is. :argh ...


and no.. Jessie McCartney can die. :arg

[Lilykt7]

Oh god.. I can't still get over the fact how ugly Zuko is. :argh ...


and no.. Jessie McCartney can die. :arg

eh he's ok. he's an amazing actor though. Slum god millionaire was a jewel. I think he can pull it off. Pretty boy face not withstanding. Aang looks like he's 7 though.

[Chee]

He's not that great of an actor. Slumdog Millionare was pretty good but his performance was nothing amazing. The little kids did more acting than Dev did.

[Jove]

He's not that great of an actor. Slumdog Millionare was pretty good but his performance was nothing amazing. The little kids did more acting than Dev did.

To be fair, though... Dante Basco's not that great of an actor, either. He should be at least as good as him.

Of course, I doubt that Noah Ringer, in a debut performance, can match Zachary Tyler Eisen. :hmpf

[The Cheat]

What does aang look like?

[Jove]

What does aang look like?

Like this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/la-09590r.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/26/three-high-resolution-photos-from-the-last-airbender/

[The Cheat]

Doesn't look bad for a white kid.

[Chee]

To be fair, though... Dante Basco's not that great of an actor, either. He should be at least as good as him.

Of course, I doubt that Noah Ringer, in a debut performance, can match Zachary Tyler Eisen. :hmpf

M. Night just chose him cause he knows how to kick butt. I'm guessing his acting performance isn't gonna win an Oscar any time soon.

[Lilykt7]

M. Night just chose him cause he knows how to kick butt. I'm guessing his acting performance isn't gonna win an Oscar any time soon.

Looks pretty tough in the picture. Still younger then I had hoped but whatever. Wheres katara and sokka :argh

[Chee]

He looks like a 12 year old boy to me.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Like this:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/26/three-high-resolution-photos-from-the-last-airbender/

Hmm... what's with the dots on the arrow?

[Koi]

It's done in a 'tribal' style, not as a solid blue. I guess in the same vein as traditional Tibetan monk tattoos, which is sorta neat. They just BETTER glow blue in the Avatar state. :C

[Chee]

Yea, I like how the arrow was done.

[Koi]

Yeah, I guess it does prove that they at least put some thought into something.

[Chee]

Wish they'd put thought into everything.

[Jove]

It's done in a 'tribal' style, not as a solid blue. I guess in the same vein as traditional Tibetan monk tattoos, which is sorta neat. They just BETTER glow blue in the Avatar state. :C

You mean glow white? :mst

I'm sure they will, anyway; if they don't, why even have the Avatar State at all. You don't think M. Night would change that do you? I know I wouldn't put it past him.

[Chee]

If he didn't do that avatar state...I'd be so pissed.

[Jove]

If he didn't do that avatar state...I'd be so pissed.

Whenever Aang is in trouble, he magically becomes a filmmaker whose brilliant work goes under appreciated by studio executives. :zaru

[Dragonus Nesha]

They just BETTER glow blue in the Avatar state. :C
You mean glow white? :mstI wonder what they will do for Aang's Avatar State eyes. They glow in the cartoon, but glowing eyes, in my opinon, don't really come off well in live action.
Yea, I like how the arrow was done.Same here.

[Chee]

Maybe just white them out.

[Thelonious]

Whenever Aang is in trouble, he magically becomes a filmmaker whose brilliant work goes under appreciated by studio executives. :zaru

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/Images/m-night-shyamalan.jpg

[Italics]

Like this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/la-09590r.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/26/three-high-resolution-photos-from-the-last-airbender/

They probably had to make some tough choices, I bet they looked at about a bazillion kids for the role. IDK - he's got the little kid, chubby-cheek thingy going on though. To me, Aang's face seemed more angular - but hopefully he carries himself well. His voice will be important.

The tat's an interesting touch. I was wondering how they were going to do that.

[ReikaiDemon]

They probably had to make some tough choices, I bet they looked at about a bazillion kids for the role. IDK - he's got the little kid, chubby-cheek thingy going on though. To me, Ang's face seemed more Aangular - but hopefully he carries himself well. His voice will be important.

The tat's an interesting touch. I was wondering how they were going to do that.
lol

I'm imagining a lightsaber effect with the tat D:

Or maybe something fancy, like ghostly images glowing by of the past avatars in his arrows

[Koi]

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs28/f/2008/118/c/e/cea40e173920d84a8b5cdbc78cbcd0dd.jpg

http://katsh.deviantart.com/art/Boiling-Rock-Moment-84088635

:rotfl
Zuko is just insensitive and socially awkward enough that I'm going to consider that canon.

[Undaunted]

Avatar live action film? :lmao

Didn't they learn for DBE?

[Chee]

Oh gawd, that comic. :lmao

CASTING CHOICES STILL MAKE ME RAWR.

[RAGING BONER]

watch'm pick the actress that should ideally play Azula as Katara and vice versa...oh M Night :lmao

[Chee]

Honestly, Dev Patel is GREAT AWESOME SUPERB for the role of Sokka. WHY M NIGHT WHY!?!!?!?!?!?!?

[RAGING BONER]

:taichou He's just trolling.

[Chee]

Trolling my favorite cartoon series. :-(

[Koi]

His trolling won't be complete until we get a Bollywood danc-- OH SHIT THE HEADBAND

[RAGING BONER]

what are they gonna do about the actor who plays Aang? its not like he's gonna look like that for forever.

Sooner or later his balls are gonna drop and he's gonna jump head first into puberty.His trolling won't be complete until we get a Bollywood danc-- OH SHIT THE HEADBAND

we all know thats coming sooner or later. :-(

[Chee]

Seriously. Unless M. Night directs all three movies right now, Aang is gonna be 50 by the third movie. D:

[Italics]

lol

:doh

Despite not seeing the bad pun - I even managed to misspell his name :facepalm.

I'm imagining a lightsaber effect with the tat D:

Or maybe something fancy, like ghostly images glowing by of the past avatars in his arrows

Yeah - that would work. Get ILM involved...just keep Lucas away from the director's chair :LOS

[Manwë Súlimo]

His trolling won't be complete until we get a Bollywood danc-- OH SHIT THE HEADBAND

Ah, c'mon, it wasn't THAT bad. At least it was in an environment where there is supposed to be dancing- a party. It was kinda like Footloose. And it made Zutarians squirm in pain

[Ziko]

I really liked how they made Aang. He look's pretty much how he should look. I actually have hopes for this movie!

[Chee]

I really liked how they made Aang. He look's pretty much how he should look. I actually have hopes for this movie!

Look at Zuko and who's directing. That will erase your hopes.

[Superrazien]

Look at Zuko and who's directing. That will erase your hopes.

And Katara, Sokka, Iroh, Ozai, and Zhao.

[Ziko]

I didn't like Zuko, I don't know what other projects the director has been working on and I haven't seen any of the other characters. :P

[RAGING BONER]

And Katara, Sokka, Iroh, Ozai, and Zhao.

I'd like to see pics of these if theyre available.

[Emperor Joker]

Aang looks okay, but I'd like to see what the rest of the cast look like, before I decide whether or not i'll be seeing this.

[Lilykt7]

I don't know guys I'm liking zuko. He's intense looking enough so I think he'll be able to pull it off even if he isn't as good looking as zuko was meant to be...or as asian. I'm just mostly glad there seems to be a decent amount of effort put into costume designs.

[Chee]

I'll have to see the trailer before I decide whether or not to see it.

[RAGING BONER]

I'll have to see the trailer before I decide whether or not to see it.

pssh...it could look like retardfest '09 and we both know every last Avatard is gonna watch that shit, if only to curse M Nights twisted soul.

[masterriku]

pssh...it could look like retardfest '09 and we both know every last Avatard is gonna watch that shit, if only to curse M Nights twisted soul.

Damn right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yell:yell:argh:argh :(:cry

[Chee]

pssh...it could look like retardfest '09 and we both know every last Avatard is gonna watch that shit, if only to curse M Nights twisted soul.

If it looks bad, its either a rental or an illegal copy.

[Jove]

I'm obviously going to see it. Keep this in mind: no matter how distraught of it we are now, it's going to be exponentially worse seeing it on the big screen. I'll probably bring a sword to fall on.

But anyway, here's something about the actual series upon which this ignominy is supposedly based upon:

If you weren't aware, Nicktoons is airing something called AvatarEXTRA, which is essentially Avatar done like Pop-Up Video, with blurbs of knowledge/quips/insight flashing on the screen periodically. It looks like this:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/Eternal_Light55/Avatar%20Extras%20BINIB-TAR/118.png?t=1243832699


They're doing this for all Book 1 episodes over the course of this summer, and I just caught the first two.

Verdict: It's alright. It's definitely engineered towards casual fans. A lot of throwaway jokes and comments, not much production stuff, and very little information that we didn't already know (stuff like benders learning to bend by observing the animals, Aang being the youngest Airbending Master in history). But there was still some cool stuff.

Some things I noted:

The Boy in the Iceberg

--- No blurbs for the opening sequence, which disappointed me, especially for the original open.
--- The blurbs pop up like elongated water bubbles, kind of like bending. It's kind of cool.
--- The blurbs also often pop up with words obscured by the goddamn Nicktoons logo bug in the lower left corner of the screen. :mad
--- They call Sokka's hair a "Warrior's Wolf Knot." That didn't sound right, so I looked it up. He specifically calls it a "Warrior's Wolf Tail" in The Chase. :oh

Not much is as blatantly wrong as that, but there's one coming up that is VERY MUCH incorrect.

--- When Aang first sees Katara, it says "Love at first sight." Tee hee... ship-flaunting.
--- Apparently the stuff Appa shoots all over is 10% water, 3 % dust particles, 87% Bison Mucus.
--- "An Airbender's sneeze can create more propulsion than a modern day jet engine." I'm almost positive that wasn't presented as a joke.
--- The Fire Nation symbolizes the negative affects of modern industry.
--- Fire-jabs most common Firebender attack


The Avatar Returns

--- The first two episodes were intended from beginning as one-hour event.
--- Aang sleeps with his staff
--- Zuko's ship was often done with computer graphics, but in The Avatar returns, it is not. (See, now this is the stuff they should be doing more of.)

---Ok, then this popped up. This is verbatim:

Zuko was originally going to be the love interest for Katara.

Ahhhhhhh... what? Not only was someone completely unaware that this is false, but totally unaware what this might cause.

Or it might be a deadpan joke on Zutarians. In which case: :ryoma

--- The Air Scooter can reach 30 mph.
---Signs of the Avatar State include: glowing eyes, glowing arrows, and the ability to be awesome. (:quite)
--- Dark clouds at end represent Aang's inner turmoil, sunlight represents hope.

You can see pretty much all of them here, thanks to EL on ASN: http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/Eternal_Light55/Avatar%20Extras%20BINIB-TAR/

Again, not bad. I'm hoping for more pop-ups pointing out visual motifs, foreshadowing, and maybe production facts.

[Chee]

Zuko was originally going to be the love interest for Katara.

AHAHAHHAHHHAHAH. Shipping wars are hilarious.

[Koi]

Oh, I saw a few minutes of that the other night. One also said that Airbenders recieve their arrows upon mastering their element, and that Aang was the youngest airbender to ever master the art or something.

[Jove]

Oh, I saw a few minutes of that the other night. One also said that Airbenders recieve their arrows upon mastering their element, and that Aang was the youngest airbender to ever master the art or something.

and very little information that we didn't already know (stuff like benders learning to bend by observing the animals, Aang being the youngest Airbending Master in history).

:pek



AHAHAHHAHHHAHAH. Shipping wars are hilarious.

I know, right? I can just see it...



Mike: Hey, stop pricking that M. Night voodoo doll. Nick wants something they can use for Zuko when he appears.

...


Bryan: Hey remember when Ehasz first came on board, and he pitched that Zuko and Katara would be a couple?


Mike and Bryan: :ryoma


Bryan: And since that was early on in the official writing process...

Mike: ...and since he is the head writer...

Bryan: ... you could say that Zuko...

Mike: **feverishly dialing Nick**

Bryan: Zutara... :rotfl

[RAGING BONER]

Zutara or not, the official pairing (or "Kaang" as i like to call it) will seem very pedo-like with that chubby looking gaki thats staring as Aang vs the more than likely 20 something they'll use for Katara :pek

[Jove]

We know who Katara is already. It''s Nicola Peltz:

http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nicola-peltz-1mn.jpg

This pic is dated May 6:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNjU4ODgxMDY4MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTkwMDQ1Mg@@._ V1._SX500_SY456_.jpg


That said, the only ships that won't seem pedo in the movies are Sokka-Suki and Zhao-cake.

I would say Appa-Momo as well, but I just wondered whether Momo will even be in the films.

[RAGING BONER]

http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nicola-peltz-1mn.jpg


thats it, i give up...an indian for Zuko, a white girl for Katara and chubs for Aang...WHO IS DOING THE CASTING FOR THIS MOVIE?! :wth

[ReikaiDemon]

pssh...it could look like retardfest '09 and we both know every last Avatard is gonna watch that shit, if only to curse M Nights twisted soul.
Like I said, conspiracy

[Manwë Súlimo]

I'm obviously going to see it. Keep this in mind: no matter how distraught of it we are now, it's going to be exponentially worse seeing it on the big screen. I'll probably bring a sword to fall on.

But anyway, here's something about the actual series upon which this ignominy is supposedly based upon:

If you weren't aware, Nicktoons is airing something called AvatarEXTRA, which is essentially Avatar done like Pop-Up Video, with blurbs of knowledge/quips/insight flashing on the screen periodically. It looks like this:

They're doing this for all Book 1 episodes over the course of this summer, and I just caught the first two.

Verdict: It's alright. It's definitely engineered towards casual fans. A lot of throwaway jokes and comments, not much production stuff, and very little information that we didn't already know (stuff like benders learning to bend by observing the animals, Aang being the youngest Airbending Master in history). But there was still some cool stuff.

Some things I noted:

The Boy in the Iceberg

--- No blurbs for the opening sequence, which disappointed me, especially for the original open.
--- The blurbs pop up like elongated water bubbles, kind of like bending. It's kind of cool.
--- The blurbs also often pop up with words obscured by the goddamn Nicktoons logo bug in the lower left corner of the screen. :mad
--- They call Sokka's hair a "Warrior's Wolf Knot." That didn't sound right, so I looked it up. He specifically calls it a "Warrior's Wolf Tail" in The Chase. :oh

Not much is as blatantly wrong as that, but there's one coming up that is VERY MUCH incorrect.

--- When Aang first sees Katara, it says "Love at first sight." Tee hee... ship-flaunting.
--- Apparently the stuff Appa shoots all over is 10% water, 3 % dust particles, 87% Bison Mucus.
--- "An Airbender's sneeze can create more propulsion than a modern day jet engine." I'm almost positive that wasn't presented as a joke.
--- The Fire Nation symbolizes the negative affects of modern industry.
--- Fire-jabs most common Firebender attack


The Avatar Returns

--- The first two episodes were intended from beginning as one-hour event.
--- Aang sleeps with his staff
--- Zuko's ship was often done with computer graphics, but in The Avatar returns, it is not. (See, now this is the stuff they should be doing more of.)

---Ok, then this popped up. This is verbatim:

Zuko was originally going to be the love interest for Katara.

Ahhhhhhh... what? Not only was someone completely unaware that this is false, but totally unaware what this might cause.

Or it might be a deadpan joke on Zutarians. In which case: :ryoma

--- The Air Scooter can reach 30 mph.
---Signs of the Avatar State include: glowing eyes, glowing arrows, and the ability to be awesome. (:quite)
--- Dark clouds at end represent Aang's inner turmoil, sunlight represents hope.

You can see pretty much all of them here, thanks to EL on ASN: http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/Eternal_Light55/Avatar%20Extras%20BINIB-TAR/

Again, not bad. I'm hoping for more pop-ups pointing out visual motifs, foreshadowing, and maybe production facts.

My question is: Is any of this canon? Like the Air Scooter going 30 mph?

[Chee]

We know who Katara is already. It''s Nicola Peltz:

http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nicola-peltz-1mn.jpg

This pic is dated May 6:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNjU4ODgxMDY4MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTkwMDQ1Mg@@._ V1._SX500_SY456_.jpg


That said, the only ships that won't seem pedo in the movies are Sokka-Suki and Zhao-cake.

I would say Appa-Momo as well, but I just wondered whether Momo will even be in the films.

She better ditch those braces. :pek

[Noah]

thats it, i give up...an indian for Zuko, a white girl for Katara and chubs for Aang...WHO IS DOING THE CASTING FOR THIS MOVIE?! :wth

-kids have fat faces.
-Zuko looks awesome
-that bitch is frightening.

(obligatory 'race doesn't matter, stop crying about it, wah wah wah' comment)

[Chee]

-Zuko looks awesome

Not really. Dev looks like a weasel, Zuko does not.

[Nodonn]

How bad can it be if it has Aasif Mandvi in it?

[RAGING BONER]

How bad can it be if it has Aasif Mandvi in it?

whose he playing...Fire Lord Ozai? :awesome

[Ema Skye]

whose he playing...Fire Lord Ozai? :awesome

Zhao ;33

[masterriku]

My question is: Is any of this canon? Like the Air Scooter going 30 mph?

No doubt you will attempt to us it in the OBD :zaru but since it is word of god I suppose it is.:hurr

[Emperor Joker]

We know who Katara is already. It''s Nicola Peltz:

http://gossipteen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nicola-peltz-1mn.jpg

Why is the chick playing Katara white?

[masterriku]

Because M.night is color blind you know I originally had no problem with Jesse playing Zuko since the fire nation is mostly pale skinned.

[Chee]

I hate color blind casting. Just look at the Cinderella movie from 1997 and you'll want to kill yourself.

[Emperor Joker]

I hate color blind casting. Just look at the Cinderella movie from 1997 and you'll want to kill yourself.

Or the Muppets Wizard of Oz movie for that matter.

[Manwë Súlimo]

No doubt you will attempt to us it in the OBD :zaru but since it is word of god I suppose it is.:hurr

Yes, that was my motive for asking. I would only consider it "Word of God", though, if the creators or writers of the show were involved, and I don't know if they were.

[Jove]

She better ditch those braces. :pek

And those green eyes. :pek


Yes, that was my motive for asking. I would only consider it "Word of God", though, if the creators or writers of the show were involved, and I don't know if they were.

That's why I noted it, because that's the blurb that intrigued me the most. It's so specific, 30 mph. Knowing that Mike and Bryan were so elaborate with the details of the Avaverse (you know, besides TIMELINES :cussing), I wouldn't be surprised if it was from them... but I'm not taking anything involving like that as truth until it's confirmed they were involved in some way, even if it was just offering notes.

[Jove]

According to Frank Marshall, the trailer will be online the 24th.

21/2 weeks left to cherish Avatar as we know it...


Side note: Tuesday was the 3 year anniversary of Bitter Work, Wednesday was the 4 year anniversary of The Storm. Sigh, good times....

[Lilykt7]

I hate color blind casting. Just look at the Cinderella movie from 1997 and you'll want to kill yourself.

I liked that movie actually. I think it's kind of the opposite of this casting. While the main cast here is mostly white in Cinderella they WERE all white and that movie mixed it up. Besides Cinderella is told differently in multiple cultures. Having all the different races like that set the movie apart from other versions I think. Some other aspects of the movie might have bothered me but the mixture in ethnicities among the cast was in my eyes deliberate and interesting.

:pek

[Chee]

I liked that movie actually. I think it's kind of the opposite of this casting. While the main cast here is mostly white in Cinderella they WERE all white and that movie mixed it up. Besides Cinderella is told differently in multiple cultures. Having all the different races like that set the movie apart from other versions I think. Some other aspects of the movie might have bothered me but the mixture in ethnicities among the cast was in my eyes deliberate and interesting.

:pek

I don't like the fact that a white dude and a black chick got an Asian baby. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN!?