Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[Eman5805]

Still no word on a new series?

Damn it :pek

Outside chance is all I'm hearing. Right now Mike and Bryan are all about the movie(s) right now. They've said over and over again(in the past) that they aren't finished with Avatar in animated format, but unfortunately a promise and a quarter doesn't add up to $.26...

[kakoishii]

Dammit, it's not "filler!" Filler does not and can not exist in an original work! :pek

Combustion Man was a huge lost opportunity for the show. I don't feel like any of us are at fault for having expected a more substantial role. Remember SDCC? Remember this?

http://i43.tinypic.com/2qtjww1.jpg

That poster suggested the Combustion Man would be the undergirds of Book 3, even before we knew who he was, or even his alignment. Look at the poses! Aang would be haunted by this menacing presence; Zuko would be equally disturbed, with CM acting as the object that forces him to truly question his ethics as the Fire Nation Prince.

Without CM, though, maybe Ozai will be pervasive. But I'd rather have SSBM than have M. Night find his own way to align Zuko with the Gaang.

Come now Jove, there is more than one definition of filler, don't let your experience with crappy shounen anime non-plot advancing made up story episodes cloud your mind :LOS

No doubt CM was lost potential, but there's no getting around the fact he was mostly used to kill time in filler-esque episodes like the one when Toph was scamming people.

[ReikaiDemon]

Come now Jove, there is more than one definition of filler, don't let your experience with crappy shounen anime non-plot advancing made up story episodes cloud your mind :LOS

No doubt CM was lost potential, but there's no getting around the fact he was mostly used to kill time in filler-esque episodes like the one when Toph was scamming people.
Boba Fett :LOS

[Jove]

Come now Jove, there is more than one definition of filler

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/Album2/fsd.gif


Filler occurs when an adaption detours from the original source product, creating non-canon material in order to extend episodes/scenes.

An original work cannot have filler. It's impossible. It is simply part of the story. Call it "inconsequential," or call it "inessential." Calling it filler would be a misnomer and an affront to the creators.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/Album2/fsd.gif


Filler occurs when an adaption detours from the original source product, creating non-canon material in order to extend episodes/scenes.

An original work cannot have filler. It's impossible. It is simply part of the story. Call it "inconsequential," or call it "inessential." Calling it filler would be a misnomer and an affront to the creators.
What if they needed to fill up a full time slot? There's bound to be filler there, and yes, there are different types of filler.
Like for example, quiet scenes that merely do nothing but to pan over the beautiful scenery, and doesn't actually play a role in the plot, that's filler.
Now, what you're thinking of are side plots not related to the main plot. that's also filler.
And then there's also filler that doesn't advance the story, and then there's fillers that fix up errors.

[kakoishii]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/Album2/fsd.gif


Filler occurs when an adaption detours from the original source product, creating non-canon material in order to extend episodes/scenes.

An original work cannot have filler. It's impossible. It is simply part of the story. Call it "inconsequential," or call it "inessential." Calling it filler would be a misnomer and an affront to the creators.

last I checked filler wasn't in the dictionary of geekdom with that definition :wink

People in the anime fandom simply gave it that definition. In essence filler is inconsequential and inessential, it is what it implies it's used to "fill" up space and nothing more. Haven't you heard of filler canon? Kishi does that from time to time when he fills the manga up with scenes that do nothing for the plot and thus inessential.
What if they needed to fill up a full time slot? There's bound to be filler there, and yes, there are different types of filler.
Like for example, quiet scenes that merely do nothing but to pan over the beautiful scenery, and doesn't actually play a role in the plot, that's filler.
Now, what you're thinking of are side plots not related to the main plot. that's also filler.
And then there's also filler that doesn't advance the story, and then there's fillers that fix up errors.
and pretty much this

[Jove]

People in the anime fandom simply gave it that definition. In essence filler is inconsequential and inessential, it is what it implies it's used to "fill" up space and nothing more. Haven't you heard of filler canon? Kishi does that from time to time when he fills the manga up with scenes that do nothing for the plot and thus inessential.

Exactly: inessential. But still legitimate and part of the original story. Not filler. This is not anime-related. This is about the adaption of an original narrative into another medium. Any other definition of "filler" is erroneous and undignified. Since Avatar is an original story, it contains no filler.


Aside from that, this went up on ASN today:

Last week "Avatar" was fortunate enough to win both Annie awards it was up for, "Best Directing in TV" for Joaquim Dos Santos on Ep. 320 and "Best Series for Children." We are proud of the awards, and it is a good way to cap the series -- it is always nice to be recognized by one's peers. But ultimately it is the continued and growing support and enthusiasm from the show's fans all over the world that gives us the most pride and satisfaction. Thanks for all of your heart and dedication to this world, these characters and this story. We hope it has enriched your lives in some way. We know that you have enriched ours.

Mike & Bryan
February 2009

Make of that what you will. Does "series" mean Avatar in total or Avatar: the Last Airbender? I could go either way on this, but I'm leaning towards the former. :notrust

[Banhammer]

Avatar knows no fillers. Combustion was quintessential to the plot because it was consequence of the doubt Azula planted by giving the credit to Zuko wich was a malevoulous and natural plan, very intrinsic to the plot, it gives a believable step in the evolution of the characters's personality, by strengthening the chain of events and it redeems zuko.
Combustion man, maybe was not proeminent, but he was an important part of the plot.

[kakoishii]

Exactly: inessential. But still legitimate and part of the original story. Not filler. This is not anime-related. This is about the adaption of an original narrative into another medium. Any other definition of "filler" is erroneous and undignified. Since Avatar is an original story, it contains no filler.

again you're really just using the connotation the anime fandom gave it, filler can take on various connotation in adaptions and cannon work, but I digress we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Eman5805]

Avatar knows no fillers. Combustion was quintessential to the plot because it was consequence of the doubt Azula planted by giving the credit to Zuko wich was a malevoulous and natural plan, very intrinsic to the plot, it gives a believable step in the evolution of the characters's personality, by strengthening the chain of events and it redeems zuko.
Combustion man, maybe was not proeminent, but he was an important part of the plot.

That's a long ass sentence.

I personally think there's no such thing as fillers in a non manga adapted show either, but people stupidly even refer to episodes like "The Beach" as fillers, which is so stupid it doesn't make sense. I'll admit, I would've been better off had I never ever seen "The Great Divide" and when I think about it, you can literally take that whole episode out of the story and not a single bit of continuity would be lost, cuz they never even reference it outside of the funny bit in "The Ember Island Players", which in itself was a stab at how lame and unimportant the episode was.

[Koi]

The Great Divide was filler, essentially.

[Jove]

The Great Divide was filler, essentially.

:pek

You're testing my patience, with your misguided nomenclature. The Great Divide is an inessential episode, that's all. And truthfully, I don't mind that episode at all. It's well-told.

The Beach... the act of calling The Beach filler the most destructive and shameful kind of misdirection imaginable. For one thing, it tacitly acknowledges the episode. It also lessens the force of the many important arguments against that goddamn episode.

[Koi]

Oh see The Great Divide was still good, but The Beach was just awesome.

[Noah]

Oh see The Great Divide was still good, but The Beach was just awesome.

Super Mega McAwesome, even.

[Jove]

The Beach was just awesome.

Super Mega McAwesome, even.

http://bombombombomwooooo.com/



I've said this before, but it bears repeating:

I did not come here to be made sport of. :pek

[kakoishii]

http://bombombombomwooooo.com/



I've said this before, but it bears repeating:

I did not come here to be made sport of. :pek

there's something oh so amusing about pressing a big blue button again and again :amuse but yea, everyone knows the beach was an awesome episode :zaru

[Jove]

there's something oh so amusing about pressing a big blue button again and again :amuse but yea, everyone knows the beach was an awesome episode :zaru

Price Is Right failure horns in your direction, as well. You know the URL; I request that you press the button 5 times as Penance.

As long as you have no interest in artistry, dignity, proper narrative, fluid writing, loyalty to character, a sturdy 4th wall, Avatar itself, and all things good and decent, The Beach is an episode sure to be a new friend that will certain turn into a lifelong pal.

The Beach is a Cabbage Slug struck in a talon of Avatar's Hawky. Best ignore it's pathetic presence and focus on the inimical greatness of that fine avian overlord.

[Koi]

http://bombombombomwooooo.com/



I've said this before, but it PLATYPUSBEARs repeating:

I did not come here to be made sport of. :pek

k fixd 4 u

[kakoishii]

Price Is Right failure horns in your direction, as well. You know the URL; I request that you press the button 5 times as Penance.

As long as you have no interest in artistry, dignity, proper narrative, fluid writing, loyalty to character, a sturdy 4th wall, Avatar itself, and all things good and decent, The Beach is an episode sure to be a new friend that will certain turn into a lifelong pal.

The Beach is a Cabbage Slug struck in a talon of Avatar's Hawky. Best ignore it's pathetic presence and focus on the inimical greatness of that fine avian overlord.

oh relax! My reasons for enjoying the beach was mainly for the fanservice. Was the story as fleshed as say the city of walls and secrets? No, but I can still enjoy it for what it was: Zuko and friends acting like awkward adolescent teenagers on a beach, it was a breath of fresh air. Not everything has to deep, now take a long swig from the chilax bottle jove because the angry is starting to stink up the place.

[ReikaiDemon]

OH guys, just let the baby have his bottle :sag
Filler is filler, we all know and honestly believe that character development and content DOESN'T happen in every minute of every episode.
It's like how body fat is essential to the body, you can't get rid of it, you physiologically DON'T want to get rid of it.

[Tseka]

Yes, there are all sorts of improbable but possible things that can happen with genetics. White parents can have black kids, black people can be albinos, etc.

Anyways, what's your point? Are you saying that they should cast the white kid and say he's Mongorian?

Or that they should find a blond Kazakh and cast him so that everyone's (un)happy?


P.S. Are you following me around? Or are you actually an Avatar fan? :lmao
It's not a genetic abnormality, it's a common gene that flows through the people.

[Koi]

Super Mega McAwesome, even.

See, what made The Beach awesome was that it was a multiple character study under the guise of something super awesome. :D It wasn't the most essential, but the series would definitely not be the same without it. The Great Divide, on the other hand..

[Jove]

See, what made The Beach awesome was that it was a multiple character study.

NONONONONONONONONONONNO

I will not relent. Having characters sit around a fire, explicitly expressing their emotions is NOT character study. It's lazy, puerile, insipid writing. The Beach is an unfortunate blemish on an otherwise spotless record. Therefore, best to ignore the nuisance and forget it ever happened. At least The Great Divide had a sound narrative.

And calling a part of an original work "filler" is incorrect and disrespectful.

You guys are making me feel like:

http://fc58.deviantart.com/fs41/i/2009/039/d/4/MORE_AVATAR_COOKIES__by_flaming_paperplane.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

NONONONONONONONONONONNO

I will not relent. Having characters sit around a fire, explicitly expressing their emotions is NOT character study. It's lazy, puerile, insipid writing. The Beach is an unfortunate blemish on an otherwise spotless record. Therefore, best to ignore the nuisance and forget it ever happened. At least The Great Divide had a sound narrative.

And calling a part of an original work "filler" is incorrect and disrespectful.

You guys are making me feel like:

http://fc58.deviantart.com/fs41/i/2009/039/d/4/MORE_AVATAR_COOKIES__by_flaming_paperplane.jpg
Geez Jove, that's not like you to baw about something as trivial as that
Come here honey, I'll give you my backrubs you love so much :iria
And then I'll make your favorite cabbage cart soup too and creeping crystal candy. :kloff

Also, if you liked Avatar, you'll like this
http://rapidsmoviedownload.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/135/
It's very chaotic and hectic in the first thirty minutes of the movie, since they had to compress several hundred chapters of content to build up the background to the rest of the movie.

Anyways, it's stuff like this that Avatar's creators draw inspiration from.

EDIT: MAde a torrent <3 http://www.mininova.org/tor/2292479

[Nøøps]

lol at reikai's sig

[Jove]

Geez Jove, that's not like you to baw about something as trivial as that
Come here honey, I'll give you my backrubs you love so much :iria
And then I'll make your favorite cabbage cart soup too and creeping crystal candy. :kloff

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh...

You know how to make me feel better, Rekky.

Alright then, forget all this argumentations. Accept these peace offerings that I found: Avatar smilies!!!

Water: http://fc55.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/201/f/6/_waterbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Earth: http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/193/5/8/_earthbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Fire: http://fc73.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/215/0/1/_firebending__by_Kryspix.gif

Air: http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/191/c/4/_airbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Boomerang!!!: http://fc10.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/330/f/5/_boomerangbender__by_Kryspix.gif

Azula: http://fc88.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2007/331/d/1/_bluefire__by_Kryspix.gif

Iroh: http://fc61.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/330/3/1/_dragonofthewest__by_Kryspix.gif

[ReikaiDemon]

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh...

You know how to make me feel better, Rekky.

Alright then, forget all this argumentations. Accept these peace offerings that I found: Avatar smilies!!!

Water: http://fc55.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/201/f/6/_waterbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Earth: http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/193/5/8/_earthbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Fire: http://fc73.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/215/0/1/_firebending__by_Kryspix.gif

Air: http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/191/c/4/_airbending__by_Kryspix.gif

Boomerang!!!: http://fc10.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/330/f/5/_boomerangbender__by_Kryspix.gif

Azula: http://fc88.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2007/331/d/1/_bluefire__by_Kryspix.gif

Iroh: http://fc61.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/330/3/1/_dragonofthewest__by_Kryspix.gif
Oh Jovey, you're getting some sweet things in bed tonight honey :hurr
Hey gaiz, guess whut? New Avatar :LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/378/91936cb32a1d738af04c337f5ec52d24e1544b30.gif?44077 9

[Jove]

Oh Jovey, you're getting some sweet things in bed tonight honey :hurr
Hey gaiz, guess whut? New Avatar :LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/378/91936cb32a1d738af04c337f5ec52d24e1544b30.gif?44077 9

I have no clue what the fuck is going on there, but hey, close enough! :X3

It is a very awesome sequence, whatever it's from. Of course, it's no match for the REAL DEAL:

hOqE4vCrI0w

[ReikaiDemon]

I have no clue what the fuck is going on there, but hey, close enough! :X3

It is a very awesome sequence, whatever it's from. Of course, it's no match for the REAL DEAL:

hOqE4vCrI0w
Storm Riders :LOS
Fung Wan
Wind and Cloud
:LOS
Possibly one of the inspirations for Avatar's stuff.
If not, it's a great summation of Chinese entertainment tropes :iria

Ao Jue is fighting Mou Ming(Nameless)
They practically have a bending battle, Mou Ming uses a Chinese violin for maximum win to bend the water :LOS
Vist my pimp thread :LOS

[Koi]

Out-of-context gif time!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o182/lessonnumbersix/AZULOLbymurellus.gif

Also Avatar Valentines! They're totally late but who the fuck cares just shut up and lol.

http://i39.tinypic.com/289dch4.jpg

http://gaffneye.com/nerd/thisisstupid.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/zabchan/no8-7.jpg

BONUS! Giancarlo's Hooters Katara, for your, uh.. enjoyment.http://fc12.deviantart.com/fs13/f/2007/005/6/4/Hooters_Katara_by_Fierymonk.jpg

[Jove]

All classics. Avatar fanart is top notch.

By the way:

WE MISSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!


All our talk a few months ago about honoring the anniversaries of episode airdates, and we missed the 4th Anniversary of The Boy in the Iceberg and The Avatar Returns!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png


Next is the 4th Anniversary of The Southern Air Temple, Wednesday the 25th.

[blackssk]

GMMQTXdlQTs

[Dragonus Nesha]

GMMQTXdlQTs:rofl :rofl
:rofl :high :rofl
:rofl :rofl

What movie was the dialogue from?

[Noah]

^ Dude, Where's My Car?

Second best drinking game ever. Drink on 'dude' and 'sweet'. You're trashed in the first 20 minutes, then you sober up, then you're trashed halfway through again.

Just for reference, the best drinking game ever is for the first Adams Family movie. Drink on "Fester", "Brother" or "Adams" (or variations of Adams). Alcohol poisoning is likely. :awesome

[Koi]

CREEPZULA, COMIN 4 U.

http://i43.tinypic.com/29yrtpd.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=21822618#post21822618

[Jove]

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=21822618#post21822618

Hahhaahahaha, another 24 MB gif? :awesome

I'm on it, though. I'll be at the vanguard of this exciting new torrent.

[ReikaiDemon]

Hahhaahahaha, another 24 MB gif? :awesome

I'm on it, though. I'll be at the vanguard of this exciting new torrent.
I was the sole seeder for about a week :sag

[ReikaiDemon]

Oilbending+Firebending=Godhax combo

[Jove]

Today is dedicated to the 4 year anniversary of:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-1.png


Aired February 25th, 2005. Such things from this early Book 1 episode!

A New Ship!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-50.png

Aang's mentor Gyatso!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-73.png

Hey, there's Gyatso again!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-140.png

Skins v. Skins!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-203.png


This was the first indication of the real depth that this show potentially had, and essentially provided the frame for the two main characters on the show for the rest of the series.

Also: I'm a seeder, Rekky. :hurr

[Dragonus Nesha]

Skins v. Skins!http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-203.pngSadly, Azula decided not to follow this particular tradition of Agni Kai. :cry

[Jove]

Sadly, Azula decided not to follow this particular tradition of Agni Kai. :cry

I was going to point that out, but I didn't want to undermine the homoeroticism.

Also, she's supposed to be 14... aw, who cares! Real laws don't apply to fake things! **surrepticious fap**

[ReikaiDemon]

Today is dedicated to the 4 year anniversary of:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-1.png


Aired February 25th, 2005. Such things from this early Book 1 episode!

A New Ship!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-50.png

Aang's mentor Gyatso!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-73.png

Hey, there's Gyatso again!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-140.png

Skins v. Skins!

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep3/ep3-203.png


This was the first indication of the real depth that this show potentially had, and essentially provided the frame for the two main characters on the show for the rest of the series.

Also: I'm a seeder, Rekky. :hurr
I uploaded a total of 17 gigs right now :hurr

[ReikaiDemon]

Sadly, Azula decided not to follow this particular tradition of Agni Kai. :cry
Zuko had his shirt on to, it was more of a revenge duel than an Agni Kai :LOS

[Taurus Versant]

Rekky, that sig has to be over the limit :hurr

[Jove]

Rekky, that sig has to be over the limit :hurr

Hey TV, only by like 24 MB. Close enough, I say! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/CookieMonsterHockey.png

[ReikaiDemon]

Hey TV, only by like 24 MB. Close enough, I say! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/CookieMonsterHockey.png
:hurr Oh Jovey, you know how much I luv big things
Airbending+Firebending= Super welding torch

[ReikaiDemon]

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[Koi]

plz to raep bryke for book 4

[Jove]

Could you make a "BOOK 1 OF A NEW STORY" one, Rekky?

[ReikaiDemon]

Could you make a "BOOK 1 OF A NEW STORY" one, Rekky?


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:LOS :gar

[Koi]

You guys, I had a dream where I was the Avatar. BEST DREAM EVER. But I found out, and then like a week later somebody gave Ozai his bending back and I was like FUUUUUUUUU and he had this Phoenix-shaped PLANE he used to capture me and then I was like AHAH METAL BENDING and he was like NOOO and I took broke out and like got away by flying or some shit and I thought he died but turned out to be this whole cover and he just wanted to test my skill and I was like FUUUUUU again and then he went to invade again and my cat walked across my face and woke me up.

:(

[Jove]

You guys, I had a dream where I was the Avatar. BEST DREAM EVER. But I found out, and then like a week later somebody gave Ozai his bending back and I was like FUUUUUUUUU and he had this Phoenix-shaped PLANE he used to capture me and then I was like AHAH METAL BENDING and he was like NOOO and I took broke out and like got away by flying or some shit and I thought he died but turned out to be this whole cover and he just wanted to test my skill and I was like FUUUUUU again and then he went to invade again and my cat walked across my face and woke me up.

:(

That's the face I ended up with as well. I recount the story:

**Listening to tragically magnanimous indie pop**

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeYAO, Koi posted! -----> :)

She's going to describe a dream. ------> :LOS

It's a dream about Avatar -----> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/CMEarlJ.png

There's a lack of... -----> :C

Is appears to be a subconscious allegory for the struggles of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus ----> :quite

Koi is Rekky? ----> :X3

Koi's sad for some reason, despite having a cool dream about the zenith of human artistry, and a spry cat. I empathize. ----> :(


By the way, on the movie front: they are casting for Mongolians in Northern Virginia.

[ReikaiDemon]

That's the face I ended up with as well. I recount the story:

**Listening to tragically magnanimous indie pop**

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeYAO, Koi posted! -----> :)

She's going to describe a dream. ------> :LOS

It's a dream about Avatar -----> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/CMEarlJ.png

There's a lack of... -----> :C

Is appears to be a subconscious allegory for the struggles of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus ----> :quite

Koi is Rekky? ----> :X3

Koi's sad for some reason, despite having a cool dream about the zenith of human artistry, and a spry cat. I empathize. ----> :(


By the way, on the movie front: they are casting for Mongolians in Northern Virginia.
No, ish Koi's kat =o o=http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/364/848a848925b69cb263d3c5a9cc101947d70851c3.jpg?41270 4

[ReikaiDemon]

So.....
Anyone wanna discuss what Sokka sword is made of?
It's probably a nickle iron alloy with a huge amount of carbon

[Jove]

So.....
Anyone wanna discuss what Sokka sword is made of?
It's probably a nickle iron alloy with a huge amount of carbon

It's made out of pure, cosmic exceptional, with high concentrations of immaculate and trace elements of unimpeachable.

Hawky is made of of the inverse, which is equally magnificent. :LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

It's made out of pure, cosmic exceptional, with high concentrations of immaculate and trace elements of unimpeachable.

Hawky is made of of the inverse, which is equally magnificent. :LOS
Or it could be stainless steel with high carbon content :oh
Most meteors are iron and nickel, in fact, the iron in meteors decay into nickel, and the meteors themselves have a large amount of carbon, probably leading to a black coloration of the metal in Sokka's sword.
Carbon also makes it very hard, and nickel and iron make stainless steel.

[Gunners]

Or it could be stainless steel with high carbon content
Most meteors are iron and nickel, in fact, the iron in meteors decay into nickel, and the meteors themselves have a large amount of carbon, probably leading to a black coloration of the metal in Sokka's sword.
Carbon also makes it very hard, and nickel and iron make stainless steel.

Why so serious? The person you quoted was joking around.

Anyway it feels weird that the series ended. It's a shame they have to plans for direct to video sequels or animated movies to tie up loose ends.

[Superstarseven]

Anyway it feels weird that the series ended. It's a shame they have no plans for direct to video sequels or animated movies to tie up loose ends.

Well...what are the real loose ends that people might want to see?
Zuko's mother? It would have to be a hell of an adventure to make that into a 90 minute DTV film. Aang is a fully realized Avatar so there would have to be a real challenge to his power at this point. Only thing I can think of is a struggle with or within The Spirit World that could be really exciting.

[ReikaiDemon]

Well...what are the real loose ends that people might want to see?
Zuko's mother? It would have to be a hell of an adventure to make that into a 90 minute DTV film. Aang is a fully realized Avatar so there would have to be a real challenge to his power at this point. Only thing I can think of is a struggle with or within The Spirit World that could be really exciting.
You know, it would be a real kicker if Ozai DIDN'T know where Ursa was, and his attempt to take over the world was to find her.

[Superstarseven]

I just remembered the Zutara re-finale (as the creator calls it) is happening. Who's not excited for that eh? Why should there be a need to leave well enough alone when you can force your 'shipping preference for all to see? Well anyway the update on that is that a new intro has been chosen, because we all know the original sucked, so see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Be7uCYN5M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Be7uCYN5M

A few of the other entries of course picked some J-pop songs for their intros. Some people apparently can't leave their Japanophile bubble.
Anyway perhaps this is the new content we've been craving.

[Jove]

I must say, that's done exceptionally well. At least, for an AMV. For an opening sequence... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnotsomuch.

Also, I guess these are the people that will assume the roles of our familiar characters, like George Clooney assuming the idenity of Batman, or Keith David assuming the role of Ernie Hudson assuming the role of Gus's Dad on Psych:

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In all fairness, it's not bad. No, no... not bad at all, indeed.

But a dexterous travesty is still, alas, a travesty. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Superstarseven]

I remember seeing that video for the Zutara re-finale cast. The people playing Katara, Aang and Toph do have tonal vocal similarities to the original actors. I'm not going to lie about that. The script is said to be done for this so let's see if they can get the personalities right.
The person doing Mai's part seems to be playing up the natural raspiness of Cricket Leigh's voice, sounds more like a groggy "just woke up" voice.
On the subject of Cricket, enjoy this monologue!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0TK0Amiqo

[ReikaiDemon]

D: Wow, they would go this far....
Imagine if all the NaruHina fans did this :sag

[Lilykt7]

D: Wow, they would go this far....
Imagine if all the NaruHina fans did this :sag

with zutara its tolerable and amusing at best.

with naruhina it would just be obnoxious.

[Superstarseven]

D: Wow, they would go this far....
Imagine if all the NaruHina fans did this :sag

It's almost as much of a brain ███████ when finding out that Yuri Lowenthal was considered for the voice of Zuko before the pilot was made.
I would like for it to turn out well. Give the babies their pacifier.

[Jove]

Whose to say Zutara didn't actually happen and Bryke just lied about it to cover it up?

[ReikaiDemon]

Whose to say Zutara didn't actually happen and Bryke just lied about it to cover it up?Hmmm, Bryke are magnificent bastards who love to fuck with their fans :sag

[Koi]

D: Wow, they would go this far....
Imagine if all the NaruHina fans did this :sag

I'd be arrested for murder, that's what would happen. :pek OBNOXIOUS, ARROGANT FANDOMS, THIS SHIT NEEDS TO STOP. Your ship sank, take it with some dignity.

Also, Mongorians = Earth Nation people? Wut?

[ReikaiDemon]

I'd be arrested for murder, that's what would happen. :pek OBNOXIOUS, ARROGANT FANDOMS, THIS SHIT NEEDS TO STOP. Your ship sank, take it with some dignity.

Also, Mongorians = Earth Nation people? Wut?
Huh? I thought Earth Kingdom citizens were more like mainland Chinese, or Han Chinese

[stab-o-tron5000]

Huh? I thought Earth Kingdom citizens were more like mainland Chinese, or Han Chinese

The Earth Kingdom is pretty big. Toph had light skin and she was from the southern Earth Kingdom, but we do see plenty of darker skinned Earth Kingdomers. Mongolian looks could work for representing northern Earth Kingdom citizens.

[ReikaiDemon]

The Earth Kingdom is pretty big. Toph had light skin and she was from the southern Earth Kingdom, but we do see plenty of darker skinned Earth Kingdomers. Mongolian looks could work for representing northern Earth Kingdom citizens.
Well, I meant the actual Kingdom, the capitals where people live in, like Ba Sing Se, the mainland has a lot of darker people in real life, so it's no surprise.
As for people living further away from the physical kingdoms, the sandbenders are not surprisingly darker in complexion. Bumi could be Mongolian, he has jewelry that looks Mongolian in style.
Now that I think of it, most Earthbenders wear Mongolian jewelry.

Also, Avatar motivational posters for the win
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/9-3.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/31-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/motivator2133459.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/33-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/39-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/28-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/11-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/10-3.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/22-2.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator6858006.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/2-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/3-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/5-3.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/6-3.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/7-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/10-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/11-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/15-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/15-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/28-1.jpg

[Taurus Versant]

The Shame one made me lol heartily. :lmao

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/29-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/30-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/30-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/31-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/33-2.jpghttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/frozenheat141/poster58442443.jpghttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/frozenheat141/poster60714437.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/41-3.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/42-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/42-4.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator8994388.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator8624897.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/43-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/43-3.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator7299779.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator669946.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/maiko1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara2-1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara3-1.png

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/44-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/44-3.jpgCould Toph be anymore adorable in this scene?
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/44-4.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator2382978.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/45-4.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/45-3.jpghttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/xtreamkiller/45-1copy.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator4322502.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator1181014.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator935257.jpg

[Shinobi Nikki]

ROFLMAO at them ^^
Ive jsut started watching it from the begining,
ive been watching odd episodes and such on Nick.
Yeah, Tis awesome.
"A Giant Mushroom!, Maybe It's Friendly!!!"
^^ Sokka Ish Ace :D

[ReikaiDemon]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator5891984.jpghttp://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/mxmatrik/Sokka2.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c257/hego007/Iroh-1.jpghttp://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/mxmatrik/Unaware.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator1468792.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator3651483.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/46-1.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/46-2.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc218/cypsiman2/46-4.jpghttp://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/Chaobunny/motivator5989070.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

Okay okay okay, one more, and I'll stop :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c257/hego007/Aang.jpg

[Koi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara1.png
HAHA. O rly? :zaru

[ReikaiDemon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara1.png
HAHA. O rly? :zaru
Yes, that one made me lol painfully :LOS

[Natsumeh]

Lol. Where can I watch episodes 10- the last episode of book 3? XD

[ReikaiDemon]

Lol. Where can I watch episodes 10- the last episode of book 3? XD
Live in the Phillipines eh? I feel sorry for you, I've got buddies in the Phillipines, from what I hear, the TV there isn't great.
Go here for episodes
http://www.avatarchapters.org/
Also, I loled so hard at this, I need surgery
3Dv102225226fAYBzjh

[Jove]

http://www.avatarchapters.org/


Do NOT go to this place. Rekky is trying to hurt you.

http://www.theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php will do just fine.

[The Cheat]

If you think about,zuko would be a jackass for not returning mai's feelings.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8urXdyee7g

[Superrazien]

So me and my friend were watching Day of Black sun part 2. We were discussing the part where Ozai told Zuko his mother did vicious, treasonous things to keep Zuko alive and give Ozai the thrown. We were coming up with theorys on what she might have done.

I came up with the theory maybe she forced or forged a will from Fire Lord Azula to claim Ozai as Fire Lord, then maybe she killed him in his sleep of something. But while Ozai wanted to be Fire Lord he could not stay married to the woman that killed his dad, so she accepted banishment. To keep Zuko alive.

Anyone else have any theories?

[Koi]

..What the fuck happened to Chit Sang?

[Mider T]

You mean Shit Wang?:hehee

[ReikaiDemon]

So me and my friend were watching Day of Black sun part 2. We were discussing the part where Ozai told Zuko his mother did vicious, treasonous things to keep Zuko alive and give Ozai the thrown. We were coming up with theorys on what she might have done.

I came up with the theory maybe she forced or forged a will from Fire Lord Azula to claim Ozai as Fire Lord, then maybe she killed him in his sleep of something. But while Ozai wanted to be Fire Lord he could stay married to the woman that killed his dad, so she accepted banishment. To keep Zuko alive.

Anyone else have any theories?
I'd say she might be one of the most powerful firebenders in the nation, and probably carried out assassinations to preserve Zuko's life.
The firenation, not wanting to broadcast their turbulent affairs, keeps it all hush hush as possible. If the firenation had eunuchs, I bet they wouldn't even know.
Or, it could be as simple as lambasting the family name, maybe threatening to tell the public of how Sozin was killed.
It could be a lot of things, maybe assisting Ozai in taking the throne, afterall, Ozai would be treasonous for doing that.
Or it's possible that when she committed murder, she would have to be executed, Ozai staged an execution, and Ursa would then have to escape the nation to keep up the illusion.

[ReikaiDemon]

..What the fuck happened to Chit Sang?
Mr. Noisy?
I dunno, didn't he escape with Hakoda and the others?

[The Cheat]

I'd say she might be one of the most powerful firebenders in the nation, and probably carried out assassinations to preserve Zuko's life.
The firenation, not wanting to broadcast their turbulent affairs, keeps it all hush hush as possible. If the firenation had eunuchs, I bet they wouldn't even know.
Or, it could be as simple as lambasting the family name, maybe threatening to tell the public of how Sozin was killed.
It could be a lot of things, maybe assisting Ozai in taking the throne, afterall, Ozai would be treasonous for doing that.
Or it's possible that when she committed murder, she would have to be executed, Ozai staged an execution, and Ursa would then have to escape the nation to keep up the illusion.

My original theory before it was revealed that ursa was alive was that she took place zuko's place in being executed and that ozai kille azula.

[Blue Beetle]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/spazzgirlx13/Motivational%20Posters/zutara1.png
HAHA. O rly? :zaru

HHAHAAHA! SO true. xD

[Jove]

So me and my friend were watching Day of Black sun part 2. We were discussing the part where Ozai told Zuko his mother did vicious, treasonous things to keep Zuko alive and give Ozai the thrown. We were coming up with theorys on what she might have done.

I came up with the theory maybe she forced or forged a will from Fire Lord Azula to claim Ozai as Fire Lord, then maybe she killed him in his sleep of something. But while Ozai wanted to be Fire Lord he could stay married to the woman that killed his dad, so she accepted banishment. To keep Zuko alive.

Anyone else have any theories?

Mmmm, this is a good theory. This is the most popular general concept, with many variants. I tend to think Ursa was a reverse Lady Macbeth of sorts, replacing ambition with protective maternalism.

[Superstarseven]

I'd like to know the manner in which she killed him. How do these things usually go? Stab through the heart possibly? I think Ursa wanted to do this fairly quickly and not get too messy so 4 blows to the head with a candlestick is out. Perhaps Mike and Bryan are open to answer some of those questions...once they leave their undisclosed location.

[ReikaiDemon]

I'd like to know the manner in which she killed him. How do these things usually go? Stab through the heart possibly? I think Ursa wanted to do this fairly quickly and not get too messy so 4 blows to the head with a candlestick is out. Perhaps Mike and Bryan are open to answer some of those questions...once they leave their undisclosed location.
Well, historically, political assassinations were preferably clean, so a quick slit of the throat, poison, or a swift dagger to the vitals are viable options if this is the trope they used.
It may be possible that since they're firebenders, they may have snuffed him out, literally. Carbon monoxide poisoning is one of the most peaceful ways to go, and Firelord Sozin has proven that being the Avatar, much less a firebender, does not make a person immune to inhalation of noxious fumes.

[Jove]

Polonium-210 in a sandwich. That's how it's done, comrade! :edu

But seeing as Ozai seemed both appalled and impressed by the "vicious, treasonous things" Ursa carried out, it must have been pretty ruthless. I'm guessing it might have begun simply, possibly an attempt to stab or asphyxiate, and became a real struggle. Because I doubt that she was a Firebender, Ursa was forced to become quite bestial and savage to put Azulon down.

**Goes back to research Rekky's Youtube posts about Deadly Weapons**

[Jove]

I may be late on this, but I was poking around OneManga aaaand...

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/00000004/02.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000137822/10.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000146992/05.jpg

Ehhhhhhh... :wha

[ReikaiDemon]

I may be late on this, but I was poking around OneManga aaaand...

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/00000004/02.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000137822/10.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000146992/05.jpg

Ehhhhhhh... :wha
Cosplay xD .

[kakoishii]

I may be late on this, but I was poking around OneManga aaaand...

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/00000004/02.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000137822/10.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000146992/05.jpg

Ehhhhhhh... :wha

that is so great :amuse
Avatar cosplay in Japan, if that isn't proof of how great the series is
in other news what manga is that?

[Jove]

that is so great :amuse
Avatar cosplay in Japan, if that isn't proof of how great the series is
in other news what manga is that?

It's called Dear School Gang Leader. It's actually pretty good, though I have yet to see any kind of reason given as to why Aang is a member of this High School.

[Koi]

Ahar.

http://www.unowen.net/tegaki/images/200807/14/00/121601138554-18940.png

[ReikaiDemon]

Ahar.

http://www.unowen.net/tegaki/images/200807/14/00/121601138554-18940.png
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c257/hego007/MPNADD4.jpg

[Koi]

I wonder if Suki ever lets him wear the Wang getup in bed. :awesome You KNOW he'd want to.

[Dimezanime20]

Surprised that this thread is still going on. Exactly what news is out there right now that's keeping people active in here?

[ReikaiDemon]

Surprised that this thread is still going on. Exactly what news is out there right now that's keeping people active in here?
Omg, he's back, the great creator is back.
Hello, as you can see, Jove and I have been serving as your angels in your absence, m'lord :sag

[kakoishii]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c257/hego007/MPNADD4.jpg
:laugh what can I say, if I was crazy I'd see him too.
Surprised that this thread is still going on. Exactly what news is out there right now that's keeping people active in here?

Jove comes up with anything and Reiky makes him feel important about it. It's a give and take system that we've all been supporting for the last 500+ pages, or if you want to get technical about it ever since the series finale which was about 200 odd pages ago.

[Koi]

Surprised that this thread is still going on. Exactly what news is out there right now that's keeping people active in here?

A lot of activity concerning the live-action movie, mostly. Which is fun. They've got a hardon for casting white kids, apparently.

[ReikaiDemon]

:laugh what can I say, if I was crazy I'd see him too.


Jove comes up with anything and Reiky makes him feel important about it. It's a give and take system that we've all been supporting for the last 500+ pages, or if you want to get technical about it ever since the series finale which was about 200 odd pages ago.
Isn't that supposed to be the other way around? D:

[kakoishii]

Isn't that supposed to be the other way around? D:

hmm, it might actually be a little of both. Half and half shall we say?

[C_Akutabi]

I may be late on this, but I was poking around OneManga aaaand...

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/00000004/02.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000137822/10.jpg

http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000437/000146992/05.jpg

Ehhhhhhh... :wha

He's doing it wrong. Aang don't eat meat :pek:gun

:LOS

[Superrazien]

A lot of activity concerning the live-action movie, mostly. Which is fun. They've got a hardon for casting white kids, apparently.

Yeah whats up with that? Also how come the new guy playing Zuko looks like he would be the perfect Sokka, and the dude playing Sokka looks like he has no business in Avatar.

On a side note, I know its wish full thinking but since M.Night is a fan, I hope he keeps the track team for the score. Avatars music is perfect it doesn't need a new soundtrack, especially Agni Kai theme.

[Muk]

do we have any idea if the live action is going to fail like dragonball did?

[kakoishii]

and the almost disastrous almost official choice of Jesse McCartney as Zuko holds no indication?
:awesome just kidding the only thing that's been up for debate is casting choice which have mostly been frowned upon by the fandom. M. Night says he's going to do a faithful job as far as the script goes but time will tell, and I'm not sure if they've started shooting or not, but we'll get a better feel for how this is going as soon as pics from the set all leaked.
(also completely offtopic woohoo for my 2k post!)

[Jove]

do we have any idea if the live action is going to fail like dragonball did?

1.
http://i43.tinypic.com/295g851.jpg

aaaaaaaaand...

2. White People

[Superrazien]

do we have any idea if the live action is going to fail like dragonball did?

Doubt it, M.Night is at least a fan and hes working with the original creators. DB just failed on to many levels. Avatar may have screwed up really bad with the cast but I'm willing to bet the overall movie is decent.

[Jove]

First of all:

http://fc86.deviantart.com/fs45/f/2009/067/a/2/Avatar_SD___Characters_by_AlisaChristopher.png

chibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibi chibichibichibichibichibichibi
chibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibi chibichibichibichibichibichibi
chibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibi chibichibichibichibichibichibi
chibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibi chibichibichibichibichibichibi
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chibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibichibi chibichibichibichibichibichibi


But this is actually derived from something pretty interesting. Popular fanartist AlisaChristopher has been working on an Avatar game for all of us. It's still in the nascent stages, but what she has planned looks really great. For instance, this:

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/234/f/3/Sukka___Blitz_by_AlisaChristopher.png

:X3

http://www.alisachristopher.us/avatarSD/

[Ziko]

That looks so awesome!!! :D

[Kaenboshi]

Damn that game looks awesome. :amazedDoubt it, M.Night is at least a fan and hes working with the original creators. DB just failed on to many levels. Avatar may have screwed up really bad with the cast but I'm willing to bet the overall movie is decent. Except that's for Shyamalan it's less about being a fan more an attempt for people to associate his work something other than tweests. He's even straight up said that in an interview. Also, I think Watchmen just proved that even if an adaptation is good, there some stories that work best in their original medium.

[Superrazien]

Damn that game looks awesome. :amazed Except that's for Shyamalan it's less about being a fan more an attempt for people to associate his work something other than tweests. He's even straight up said that in an interview. Also, I think Watchmen just proved that even if an adaptation is good, there some stories that work best in their original medium.

Well I'm sure Avatars many things for M. Night, he is a big fan of the show and he is working with the creators of Avatar. They movie may not turn out as well as people want it to but I am confident it will not be the train wreck that is Dragonball Evolution.

[ReikaiDemon]

Damn that game looks awesome. :amazed Except that's for Shyamalan it's less about being a fan more an attempt for people to associate his work something other than tweests. He's even straight up said that in an interview. Also, I think Watchmen just proved that even if an adaptation is good, there some stories that work best in their original medium.
That, and Alan Moore is such a whiny pussy

[The Cheat]

That, and Alan Moore is such a whiny pussy

How could one with such an awesome beard be a pussy?:vegeta

[Dimezanime20]

Omg, he's back, the great creator is back.
Hello, as you can see, Jove and I have been serving as your angels in your absence, m'lord :sag

...Oh, I see. Thank you guys very much then. If you need me to put anything on the first post, let me know.

[Jove]

...Oh, I see. Thank you guys very much then. If you need me to put anything on the first post, let me know.

Hmmm... my top 5 would be:

5. Melon Lord

4. Wang Fiyahhhh

3. LOL Zutara

2. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3232/createcardphpfc6.jpg

1.5 REAL LIFE FIREBENDING!!! hOqE4vCrI0w

1. HAWKY.

[stab-o-tron5000]

Zhao, Ozai and Iroh have been cast. (http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-12-2009/0004987974&EDATE=)

Ok, lets talk about the oddest pick first. The Daily Show's Asif Mandvi as Zhao.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/18_mandavi_lgl.jpg

I actually think he could work. I haven't seen him in anything other than The Daily Show, but he's always been one of the funnier correspondents and speaking in general terms, comedy is one of the most difficult things for an actor to pull off. Just get him in the gym and this could work.

[ReikaiDemon]

Zhao, Ozai and Iroh have been cast. (http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-12-2009/0004987974&EDATE=)

Ok, lets talk about the oddest pick first. The Daily Show's Asif Mandvi as Zhao.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/18_mandavi_lgl.jpg

I actually think he could work. I haven't seen him in anything other than The Daily Show, but he's always been one of the funnier correspondents and speaking in general terms, comedy is one of the most difficult things for an actor to pull off. Just get him in the gym and this could work.
I've couldn't have picked a better Zhao :sag
Zhao hilariously was dragged off by water koi kyuubi :sag
Both are lol :sag

John Chang bends electricity too Jovey :iriaHow could one with such an awesome beard be a pussy?:vegetaHe whines about all the movies on his comics :LOS

[Superrazien]

OMG Iroh and Ozai suck big time. I am begining to think M.Night is not a fan.

[Dimezanime20]

Hmmm... my top 5 would be:

5. Melon Lord

4. Wang Fiyahhhh

3. LOL Zutara

2. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3232/createcardphpfc6.jpg

1.5 REAL LIFE FIREBENDING!!! hOqE4vCrI0w

1. HAWKY.

You want me to put all that in my post?

[Koi]

Zhao, Ozai and Iroh have been cast. (http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-12-2009/0004987974&EDATE=)

Ok, lets talk about the oddest pick first. The Daily Show's Asif Mandvi as Zhao.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/wackinov/18_mandavi_lgl.jpg

I actually think he could work. I haven't seen him in anything other than The Daily Show, but he's always been one of the funnier correspondents and speaking in general terms, comedy is one of the most difficult things for an actor to pull off. Just get him in the gym and this could work.

WHY IS M CASTING SO MANY INDIANS?! WTF IS THIS SHIT. WHY ARE THE BROWN PEOPLE NOT BROWN?








God damn I love Asif though. :hurr (first time i've ever used that smiley)


Okay so that's Zhao.



Ozai:
http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Ro/Bio_Batch17/cliff-curtis01.jpg

Iroh:
http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_celebrity/shaun-toub-221044


Sorry M, you're.. like, you're kinda getting this race thing wrong? Yes Asia implies India too, but.. go east a little..

[stab-o-tron5000]

If Zuko is Indian, doesn't it kinda make sense that the rest of his family is Indian? As for Zhao. Since the Royal family is indian, I would suspect that the people they rule over would be indian also.

As soon as they cast Dev as Zuko, it was kind of inevitable that the fire nation would then pretty much have to be indian.

[Jove]

Was it so hard to get Jason Isaacs for Zhao? The only other person I would have accepted as Zhao would have been Hackman. He's the only person alive I believe can pull off the Zhaoburns.

No point in complaining about Iroh, since he was impossible to adequately recreate. Too much transcendent exceptional for real life. Same reason we won't be seeing Wei Jin, Moku, the Sun Warriors, or sparrow-keets.

And if you're going to take Ozai from New Zealand, why not cast Ozai as one, or all, of these guys?

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/99/15/0000039915_20070521171005.jpg

[Ema Skye]

M. Night is slowly killing the casting of avatar :(

[Superrazien]

If Zuko is Indian, doesn't it kinda make sense that the rest of his family is Indian? As for Zhao. Since the Royal family is indian, I would suspect that the people they rule over would be indian also.

As soon as they cast Dev as Zuko, it was kind of inevitable that the fire nation would then pretty much have to be indian.

Simple, you could of just had his Mom be Indian.

[Superstarseven]

Interesting. Cliff Curtis is a maori from New Zealand and Shaun Toub is Iranian.
Certainly is diverse. Cliff played a rapist in Once Were Warriors, he'll know how to play evil.

[Nøøps]

hey the guy who will play ozai was in Live Free or DieHard he played some sort of leader of CIA or Homeland Security or something.
Oh and who else thinks that Dante Basco could pull off Zuko if helost weight, i do :D

[Taurus Versant]

M. Night is slowly killing the casting of avatar :(

Just as planned.

:cry

[ReikaiDemon]

WHY IS M CASTING SO MANY INDIANS?! WTF IS THIS SHIT. WHY ARE THE BROWN PEOPLE NOT BROWN?








God damn I love Asif though. :hurr (first time i've ever used that smiley)


Okay so that's Zhao.



Ozai:
http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Imported/BioPix/Ro/Bio_Batch17/cliff-curtis01.jpg

Iroh:
http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_celebrity/shaun-toub-221044


Sorry M, you're.. like, you're kinda getting this race thing wrong? Yes Asia implies India too, but.. go east a little..

You mean north? :sag

[Jove]

Oh and who else thinks that Dante Basco could pull off Zuko if helost weight, i do :D

Again:

He's in his mid-30's, and he barely pulled off Zuko as a voice actor. We're better off with Dante Basco getting tax advice from Rich Eisen in commercials, and being in the Basco Brothers band.

Alright, maybe not the last part, but the tax thing... Dante can stay there.

[ReikaiDemon]

I'm gonna laugh when Guru Pathik isn't Indian

[Jove]

I'm gonna laugh when Guru Pathik isn't Indian

That another one I forgot about! Another character M. Night will cowardly avoid; he'll probably just make up his own version of chakra and have himself teach it to Aang, to avoid attempting to adapt such off-the-charts magnificent.

[ReikaiDemon]

That another one I forgot about! Another character M. Night will cowardly avoid; he'll probably just make up his own version of chakra and have himself teach it to Aang, to avoid attempting to adapt such off-the-charts magnificent.
It's catra :LOS
Chatora :LOS

[Koi]

As long as Dwayne Johnson is THE BOULDER, I will pay for these movies.

[ReikaiDemon]

As long as Dwayne Johnson is THE BOULDER, I will pay for these movies.
I noticed Dwayne's getting his muscles back :LOS
Though, as much as I like to see him take up a role inspired by his past role, I'm afraid he might be too inconsequential to include into the movie D:
There's a large chance they would use an amateur actor or an extra to fight Toph D:

[Superrazien]

So does anyone think this movie is so far turning out how DBE was. I mean I bet it will be better than DBE. But from just a few bits of info M.Night turned this franchise that could of been epic to monstrous proportions, to a film that may be decent if we are lucky. I've also never seen such racism before for a film.

[Shade]

^ Stop comparing it to DB:E, they have nothing in common.

[ReikaiDemon]

^ Stop comparing it to DB:E, they have nothing in common.
The letters D, B, and E are in the title of the series, that's enough, right? :zaru

[Seto Kaiba]

As long as Dwayne Johnson is THE BOULDER, I will pay for these movies.

I could just see the credits now:

The Rock as The Boulder

[Mider T]

I could just see the credits now:

The Rock as The Boulder

I can see the Pokemon evolving parody gifs:lmao

[Superrazien]

^ Stop comparing it to DB:E, they have nothing in common.

Well it just reminds me of DB. All the hype around it at first, the potential for it be awesome. Then each bit of info that comes out gets progressively worse. I mean the casting for Aang, Katara, Zuko, and Sokka was just terrible. All the fan out cry against it, you would think the casting for Zhao, Iroh, and Ozai would be better, but there far worse. I don't think Avatar will be as bad or corny as DBE but it's starting down the same road DBE did.

[Jove]

We neglected to mention that this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1692978/) has been cast as "Earthbending Father." I suppose that means Tyro?

[ReikaiDemon]

We neglected to mention that this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1692978/) has been cast as "Earthbending Father." I suppose that means Tyro?
Oh wow, the only asian we know as of yet D:

[Jove]

Oh wow, the only asian we know as of yet D:

Taking the role played by a black man with a remarkably deep voice, at that. :oh

I figured Imprisoned would be one of the things cut... I guess M. Night's that into Zutara.

[Taurus Versant]

Bad news for us. We need no Haru.

[Jove]

Bad news for us. We need no Haru.

Which means we can add Haru's mustache to shipping, genocide, and topknot Zuko as things that seemed awesome and squeal-worthy on the show that will be unsettling in live-action.

[Shade]

What's with all the whining about the actors not being Asian? Sure, it was implied based on the cultures presented in the series, but it never downright states that they're East Asian.

[Superrazien]

What's with all the whining about the actors not being Asian? Sure, it was implied based on the cultures presented in the series, but it never downright states that they're East Asian.

The Fire Nation practical screams they are ancient China.

[Jove]

The Fire Nation practical screams they are ancient China.

Mmmm? That's the EK.

I was always under the assumption that the Fire Nation was loosely based upon late 19th Century/early 20th Century Imperial Japan, with the geography being very strongly based upon Iceland.

[Wesley]

This was a good series. I really enjoyed it.

Though I hate Water Benders for some reason. Like they're way more powerful than any other kind of bending.

[Superstarseven]

Everything in the show screams China, Japan, Korea, Mongolia, Tibet,Thailand...Canadian arctic and sub-arctic? I really miss it.

As for the casting debate it seems as if Avatar seemed like a perfect vehicle for Asian acting talent but whitey came in there and messed things up.

[ReikaiDemon]

The Fire Nation practical screams they are ancient China.

Mmmm? That's the EK.

I was always under the assumption that the Fire Nation was loosely based upon late 19th Century/early 20th Century Imperial Japan, with the geography being very strongly based upon Iceland.
It's probably a mix of Imperial dynasties of China, and Imperial Japan, the firenation castle is made of Japanese Pagodas mainly, and their industrial strength motive for imperial goals resembles Japan in the 19th to 20th century. They mostly seem to be based on Japan.

[stab-o-tron5000]

Just as long as he gets the Air Noamds right, which are clearly based on 1920's era Chicago gangsters.

And Personally, I think the watertribe should all be cyborgs (I mean really, it makes total sense if you think about it, what with their being white an all).

[ReikaiDemon]

Huh, I though the Air Nomads were the zoot suits?

[stab-o-tron5000]

Huh, I though the Air Nomads were the zoot suits?

But we're agreed on the whole cyborg water tribe thing, right?

[ReikaiDemon]

But we're agreed on the whole cyborg water tribe thing, right?
Well....
It hasn't really been confirmed that they are cyborgs, they could be androids, or biodroids.

[Koi]

I think they're actually wolfoids, but that could just be rumour.

[Jove]

Bato's arm got legitimately burned, so obviously they are self-replicating automata with advanced skin grafting techniques. :edu

I'm surprised, repulsed, disappointed, and, inevitably, deeply hurt you guys missed that.

[Superstarseven]

Oh boy, here comes the silliness.
This is hardly brought up but names are usually a dead giveaway into what a certain culture is based on in the Avatar universe.
The Air Nomads and Water tribes are pretty much set, those residents either have Tibetan or Inuit names but The Fire Nation is a little harder to get a handle on.
Zuko, Kuzon, Ozai, Roku and Iroh are Japanese names I believe but Zhao, Ty Lee, Piandao, Yon Rha, and On Ji are Chinese. The Earth Kingdom's residents, save for Kyoshi Island, pretty much all have Chinese names. It's pretty mixed with The Fire Nation.

[ReikaiDemon]

Bato's arm got legitimately burned, so obviously they are self-replicating automata with advanced skin grafting techniques. :edu

I'm surprised, repulsed, disappointed, and, inevitably, deeply hurt you guys missed that.
His arm didn't get burned, only the holographic lenses got charred, which revealed his soot stained skeleton from the burning cloth. They don't have skin, it's impossible to maintain, holograms however, are quite versatile.
Bato not having high end hologram lenses prove that they're androids, since any logical human being would take care of their parts, and upgrade. Androids however, have proven to not care about maintaining themselves, and only actively try to protect their AI. That's why during book five, chapter 89, that waterbender's head shot off into the distance. Now, I know everyone thinks that Ressurection Akuma Ozai uppercut caused that waterbender's head to fly off, but Bryke said in Daily Playboy Nickelodeon Magazine (Februrary 38th, 2007, next to the Miranda Cosgrove centerfold), in microprint, that the Waterbender's head ejected at the last moment.

Though, there is a rumor that the top Waterbenders are actually cyborgs.
Oh boy, here comes the silliness.
This is hardly brought up but names are usually a dead giveaway into what a certain culture is based on in the Avatar universe.
The Air Nomads and Water tribes are pretty much set, those residents either have Tibetan or Inuit names but The Fire Nation is a little harder to get a handle on.
Zuko, Kuzon, Ozai, Roku and Iroh are Japanese names I believe but Zhao, Ty Lee, Piandao, Yon Rha, and On Ji are Chinese. The Earth Kingdom's residents, save for Kyoshi Island, pretty much all have Chinese names. It's pretty mixed with The Fire Nation.There are Chinese Japanese citizens in Japan that date back to hundreds of years ago.

[Superstarseven]

There are Chinese Japanese citizens in Japan that date back to hundreds of years ago.

Interesting. Do you think that's what they referencing in the show?

[Dimezanime20]

I just did a mini-marathon (11 episodes with some episodes missing inbetween) on season 3. Made my Sunday a great day.

[Superrazien]

I was wondering do you think that Azula, Jeong Jeong, and Master Pakku will all be Indian now?

[ReikaiDemon]

I was wondering do you think that Azula, Jeong Jeong, and Master Pakku will all be Indian now?
Nope, robot
Themz indians are gud at cumputarz, thez mus' bee gud 8 wobats :zaru

[Superstarseven]

Azula definitely. Especially if they want to keep some continuity between Iroh, Zuko and Ozai. Since Pakku is Water Tribe he'll be of European descent. Norwegian of some sort.
It's a bit nutty seeing these Indian, Moari, and Iranian actors playing characters with Chinese and Japanese names.

[Jove]

Azula definitely. Especially if they want to keep some continuity between Iroh, Zuko and Ozai. Since Pakku is Water Tribe he'll be of European descent. Norwegian of some sort.
It's a bit nutty seeing these Indian, Moari, and Iranian actors playing characters with Chinese and Japanese names.

It's not a problem if you hold an entirely utilitarian view of the movie: it exists only to foment support for another Avatar series. Nothing more. The content is whatever fantasy M. Night's kid's devise for him; I'm unaffected.


As for you, Rekky, you're showing a disheartening misinterpretation of things. Water Tribe Automata Forefathers spent generations experimenting in order to create a labyrinthine skin graft technique. Why make arms out of holograms, holograms that need maintenance, when you can use a self-preserving substance. WHY, I ASK YOU?> SKIN MAINTAINS ITSELF, GODAMMIT!

[ReikaiDemon]

It's not a problem if you hold an entirely utilitarian view of the movie: it exists only to foment support for another Avatar series. Nothing more. The content is whatever fantasy M. Night's kid's devise for him; I'm unaffected.


As for you, Rekky, you're showing a disheartening misinterpretation of things. Water Tribe Automata Forefathers spent generations experimenting in order to create a labyrinthine skin graft technique. Why make arms out of holograms, holograms that need maintenance, when you can use a self-preserving substance. WHY, I ASK YOU?> SKIN MAINTAINS ITSELF, GODAMMIT!
Yes, skin maintains itself, but only if you have HUMAN chi, therefore, the inferior androids have holograms, since they lack the biochemical processing ability to synthesize skin. Remember, organic material is corrosive on Water Tribe alloys, unless constantly imbued with human chi. The drop of water that produces the chi in androids are pure nature chi, and without human will to convert it, it doesn't prevent organic material such as the skin on cyborgs, from rusting away their skeleton. Didn't you see that there were only a couple rusted androids in the background of the steampunk castle in book 7, chapter 88? Those were the first, failed models of water tribe androids, where the forefathers tried to fabricate a womb that can develop a fetus within the androids.
As you can notice, ten of the androids were severely rusted from the belly out, the forefathers had to make sure they survive, so they had to develop cyborg technology to preserve their lives, all ten of those babies have become the leaders of the water tribe.
Resurrection Akuma Ozai wants the technology now, so he can be immune from Spiritbending, by producing android replicas of himself.

[Jove]

Yes, skin maintains itself, but only if you have HUMAN chi, therefore, the inferior androids have holograms, since they lack the biochemical processing ability to synthesize skin. Remember, organic material is corrosive on Water Tribe alloys, unless constantly imbued with human chi. The drop of water that produces the chi in androids are pure nature chi, and without human will to convert it, it doesn't prevent organic material such as the skin on cyborgs, from rusting away their skeleton. Didn't you see that there were only a couple rusted androids in the background of the steampunk castle in book 7, chapter 88? Those were the first, failed models of water tribe androids, where the forefathers tried to fabricate a womb that can develop a fetus within the androids.
As you can notice, ten of the androids were severely rusted from the belly out, the forefathers had to make sure they survive, so they had to develop cyborg technology to preserve their lives, all ten of those babies have become the leaders of the water tribe.
Resurrection Akuma Ozai wants the technology now, so he can be immune from Spiritbending, by producing android replicas of himself.

First of all, don;t underestimate our, I mean their technology. :pek

You're not paying attention to the episodes!! Not all of the Water Tribe are automata. There a small minority of humans, from which the benders derive. You can't perform the grafts with normal human skin. How the fuck would that work? You need a bender's skin, with high concentrations of residual chi. That's why the Southern Water Tribe has collapsed. The true system, a HERRONVOLK DEMOCRACY,, is found in the Northern Water Tribe because they have a solid base of benders. All the Southern people have to spread Katara around, know what I mean? That's why Bato got burned... because Katara sucks.

I know what this is all about. You read that interview in the 23 Vendémiaire 2006 issue of the Nick Mag, where Bryke said that they considered what you spoke of... HOWEVER, they continued, they were shot down in the writer's room. Mike, Bryan, Nicholson Baker, and Joan Didion all shared that sentiment, whereas Philip Roth, Salman Rushdie, Simon Schama, and Michael Showalter dissented. Head Writer Dave Eggers cast the final vote in favor of a simple decapitation. Ozai knocked that head for real and stuff. Everything else, though, you're spot on.

BUT: That's not Akuma Ozai... it's Adon Ozai. :edu

[ReikaiDemon]

First of all, don;t underestimate our, I mean their technology. :pek

You're not paying attention to the episodes!! Not all of the Water Tribe are automata. There a small minority of humans, from which the benders derive. You can't perform the grafts with normal human skin. How the fuck would that work? You need a bender's skin, with high concentrations of residual chi. That's why the Southern Water Tribe has collapsed. The true system, a HERRONVOLK DEMOCRACY,, is found in the Northern Water Tribe because they have a solid base of benders. All the Southern people have to spread Katara around, know what I mean? That's why Bato got burned... because Katara sucks.

I know what this is all about. You read that interview in the 23 Vendémiaire 2006 issue of the Nick Mag, where Bryke said that they considered what you spoke of... HOWEVER, they continued, they were shot down in the writer's room. Mike, Bryan, Nicholson Baker, and Joan Didion all shared that sentiment, whereas Philip Roth, Salman Rushdie, Simon Schama, and Michael Showalter dissented. Head Writer Dave Eggers cast the final vote in favor of a simple decapitation. Ozai knocked that head for real and stuff. Everything else, though, you're spot on.

BUT: That's not Akuma Ozai... it's Adon Ozai. :edu
But that still doesn't explain how a Water Tribe child was able to hack into Firenation computers to get Zuko reinstated as the Firelord D:
They said no human is able to break the quantum encryption of Firenation cybertechnology.
Either all Water Tribe members are automata and cyborgs, or they have some form of techno/cyberkinesis, human and automata alike.
Then it must be true that each bending discipline has at least 12 respective sub-powers now.
Did Bryke just decide to make that canon now?
Dammit Bryke, just when I deduced a canon plot element, you go out and say it's not canon, making me drop the deduction, and then you go an make it canon again.
You brilliant magnificent bastards.

[Jove]

But that still doesn't explain how a Water Tribe child was able to hack into Firenation computers to get Zuko reinstated as the Firelord D:
They said no human is able to break the quantum encryption of Firenation cybertechnology.
Either all Water Tribe members are automata and cyborgs, or they have some form of techno/cyberkinesis, human and automata alike.
Then it must be true that each bending discipline has at least 12 respective sub-powers now.
Did Bryke just decide to make that canon now?
Dammit Bryke, just when I deduced a canon plot element, you go out and say it's not canon, making me drop the deduction, and then you go an make it canon again.
You brilliant magnificent bastards.

Well, you know who to blame for this: Roth's crazy dystopian ideas, and Rushdie's furious allegory. I felt like Rushdie was far too oblique in that regard.

Also, they are beginning to film in Greenland. This is what it looks like:

http://sermitsiaq.gl/multimedia/archive/00023/Paramount_pictures_23386l.jpg

http://sermitsiaq.gl/kultur/article78950.ece?lang=EN

the scenes will make up a total of six minutes in the final production, estimated to have a budget of $250 million

1. Going to Greenland for 6 minutes? :rotfl
2. We'll only be in the Southern Water Tribe for 6 minutes? :uwah
3. 250 million? That must be a typo, right? There's no way Paramount can expect gross revenue over 250 million. :notrust

[plox]

who cares what they expect , its all good as long as i get a movie

[Jove]

who cares what they expect , its all good as long as i get a movie

If all you care about is getting one movie, and only one movie, then yes, I guess I wouldn't matter what they expect.


Also, reading that article again, I noticed that it mentions filming in Vietnam. Wonder what that might be... perhaps The Deserter?

[Superrazien]

Well, you know who to blame for this: Roth's crazy dystopian ideas, and Rushdie's furious allegory. I felt like Rushdie was far too oblique in that regard.

Also, they are beginning to film in Greenland. This is what it looks like:

http://sermitsiaq.gl/multimedia/archive/00023/Paramount_pictures_23386l.jpg

http://sermitsiaq.gl/kultur/article78950.ece?lang=EN



1. Going to Greenland for 6 minutes? :rotfl
2. We'll only be in the Southern Water Tribe for 6 minutes? :uwah
3. 250 million? That must be a typo, right? There's no way Paramount can expect gross revenue over 250 million. :notrust

Yeah if it was $250,000,000 they probably would of thought it be wise to cast according to how the fans want it. Not cast because of racism.

[Jove]

Yeah if it was $250,000,000 they probably would of thought it be wise to cast according to how the fans want it. Not cast because of racism.

Thinking about this a bit deeper... the casting may have been more of a pragmatic choice than anything. Another article said that they were casting local Greenlanders as extras; so making the Water Tribe white might have been a technical issue.

The article also said they were looking for locals with dog sledding experience. So honestly, all bets are now off. Who knows what the hell we're going to be watching in 18 months.

[ReikaiDemon]

Thinking about this a bit deeper... the casting may have been more of a pragmatic choice than anything. Another article said that they were casting local Greenlanders as extras; so making the Water Tribe white might have been a technical issue.

The article also said they were looking for locals with dog sledding experience. So honestly, all bets are now off. Who knows what the hell we're going to be watching in 18 months.
Are the dogs going to be digitally altered to look like Avatar fauna? D:
Sounds like they're going to use a LOT of CG.
My god, it's gonna be like how they added in those CG extras in the original Star Wars trilogies in 1997.

[Jove]

Are the dogs going to be digitally altered to look like Avatar fauna? D:
Sounds like they're going to use a LOT of CG.
My god, it's gonna be like how they added in those CG extras in the original Star Wars trilogies in 1997.

That was my first taste of Star Wars... that probably explains why I've always been alternately indifferent or reviled by that franchise. I shudder to think that this movie might have the same effect on a young kid interested in Avatar in a few years.

Not to give Star Wars false hope that it deserves to be in the same paragraph with Avatar.


As for the dogs... who knows what universe this movie is going to end up in after M. Night's done. I can't wait to see what he comes up with to explain bending... maybe you splice your genes with different breeds of dogs. Fir instance, Earthbending = Beagles, because Beagles are fucking cool.

[ReikaiDemon]

That was my first taste of Star Wars... that probably explains why I've always been alternately indifferent or reviled by that franchise. I shudder to think that this movie might have the same effect on a young kid interested in Avatar in a few years.

Not to give Star Wars false hope that it deserves to be in the same paragraph with Avatar.


As for the dogs... who knows what universe this movie is going to end up in after M. Night's done. I can't wait to see what he comes up with to explain bending... maybe you splice your genes with different breeds of dogs. Fir instance, Earthbending = Beagles, because Beagles are fucking cool.
Star Ways had masterful animatronics, but for some reason, George Lucus thought it would be a good idea to add in extra CG stuff, and replace the animatronics with CG animation when they remastered it in 1997.
I can confidently say, that the addition of the narmful CG extras knocked three stars off that movie out of five.
It was perfect as it was originally.
And for the first two of the new movies, the CG looked tacky.
The Star Wars movies are great movies, but a lot has been done to bog it down, I mean, they even edited Jar Jar Binks into the ending of the last movie of the original trilogy.

Ugh...

To me, most CG is poorly done, and becomes an eyesore, example, Speed Racer, it gives me a horrendous headache. What ever happened to the art of animatronics? Pyrotechnics? Actual concrete effects?

[Superstarseven]

$250 mil? I'd like to have a rundown of what's going into that budget.
$100 million took up a nice portion of Prince Caspian's $225 million budget. That's a 60 year old franchise though whose previous film made $800 million just internationally.

I love Avatar but...damn. Is it impossible to film everything they have to with a smaller, more modest budget for a kid's fantasy film? Seriously, would it just look like a low budget indie if they shaved off $90 mil? I'm completely ignorant on the subject so I honestly don't know.

[Jove]

$250 mil? I'd like to have a rundown of what's going into that budget.
$100 million took up a nice portion of Prince Caspian's $225 million budget. That's a 60 year old franchise though whose previous film made $800 million just internationally.

I love Avatar but...damn. Is it impossible to film everything they have to with a smaller, more modest budget for a kid's fantasy film? Seriously, would it just look like a low budget film if they shaved off $90 mil? I'm completely ignorant on the subject so I honestly don't know.

That article also states that they've filmed in Vietnam. Not that they will, that they already have. The article wasn't written in English, so I'm sure that tidbit and the budget number are either typos or mistranslations.

This movie cannot have a $250 million budget. Even if they have astoundingly ambitious hopes for the franchise, I doubt they're that optimistic. Due to the location shooting and the CGI, I'm sure it's a frightfully large number, but not that high.

[Superstarseven]

That $250 mil budget seems to be echoed here -

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.reuters.com/four-more-land-roles-shyamalan39s-quotairbenderquot-reuters

[Jove]

That $250 mil budget seems to be echoed here -

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.reuters.com/four-more-land-roles-shyamalan39s-quotairbenderquot-reuters

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

They are pretty goddamned optimistic. Certainly with what they hope for, a franchise-establishing success, $250 million is reasonable. But this is a monumental investment. Seems like the first movie is going to be a gamble.

It also dampens my hopes for a new series. If the movie is sucessful, if the movie makes more than $250 million in theaters... I don't see Mike and Bryan returning.

[Superrazien]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

They are pretty goddamned optimistic. Certainly with what they hope for, a franchise-establishing success, $250 million is reasonable. But this is a monumental investment. Seems like the first movie is going to be a gamble.

It also dampens my hopes for a new series. If the movie is sucessful, if the movie makes more than $250 million in theaters... I don't see Mike and Bryan returning.

Wow they put that much money into it, and M.Night starts off by pissing the Avatar fans off with his horrible casting choices. I don't think there will be a Book 2 movie.

[ReikaiDemon]

Wow they put that much money into it, and M.Night starts off by pissing the Avatar fans off with his horrible casting choices. I don't think there will be a Book 2 movie.
Unless if they decide to make the movie 12 hours long, and fit the whole series into it :sag

[Jove]

On a brighter note:

MORE SHIPPING SHOES!!!

http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs43/i/2009/071/d/c/Avatar_shoes_by_ineffablecreations.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

On a brighter note:

MORE SHIPPING SHOES!!!

http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs43/i/2009/071/d/c/Avatar_shoes_by_ineffablecreations.jpg
Those look like double sparrow tail kung fu shoes =o o=

[Jove]

Those look like double sparrow tail kung fu shoes =o o=

I don't like that we only see Kyoshi Warrior Suki, ignoring cute Fire Nation Suki or super hot Boiling Rock Suki. :mad


I suppose that whether these shoes count as Shipping Shoes is up to theologians, but I say it does.

http://fc77.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/090/c/7/Tui_And_La_Shoes_by_Supersonic_Gabi.jpg

[Vino]

I just watched this whole series and I'm fucking impressed. I loved every episode and what is more impressive that it was in English dub. The plot, the character development, the moves were all freaking awesome and the last 4 episodes were amazing and a happy ending was good for this show. Now I need an OST, anyone have that?

[Jove]

I just watched this whole series and I'm fucking impressed. I loved every episode and what is more impressive that it was in English dub. The plot, the character development, the moves were all freaking awesome and the last 4 episodes were amazing and a happy ending was good for this show. Now I need an OST, anyone have that?

I'm a little confused why you used the word "dub," but glad to see you enjoyed the show.

There is not an OST yet, but the Track Team has released a number of snippets and leitmotifs online. I'll send you my collection. It runs 44 tracks and about 66 minutes.

[Vino]

Well, the talking language is English, hence its a dub, if it was Japanese, I would have called it Japanese dub, simple as that.

[Jove]

Well, the talking language is English, hence its a dub, if it was Japanese, I would have called it Japanese dub, simple as that.

Alright, but that's just the original tracking, not a dub. A dub is when you take a preexisting track and either embellish it, re-record it, or replace it.

One of the finer ironies of the show is that it's been cited for it's anime influences, and yet when it was finally dubbed into Japanese the acting was ridiculous. :notrust

[Superstarseven]

Yeah we've all seen the same clips online.
I wouldn't watching an entire episode dubbed in Japanese. As for the acting being ridiculous...I can't tell.
I'm as familiar with Anime as a Zutarian is with sanity. Although they completely missed the mark with Azula's casting from what I heard in that promo teaser for Book 2.
She's 14/15 and sounds much older. Not sure why Nick Japan didn't bring in a sultrier-voiced actor to take over the role.

[Jove]

Yeah we've all seen the same clips online.
I wouldn't watching an entire episode dubbed in Japanese. As for the acting being ridiculous...I can't tell.
I'm as familiar with Anime as a Zutarian is with sanity. Although they completely missed the mark with Azula's casting from what I heard in that promo teaser for Book 2.
She's 14/15 and sounds much older. Not sure why Nick Japan didn't bring in a sultrier-voiced actor to take over the role.

HAI-OOOOOOOOOOOO!

From what I recall, the actor playing Sokka was pretty good, but the girl playing Aang was awfully dramatic and silly. A lot of the acting sounded too frenetic.

Watching the DVDs, on the other hand, I found the French and Spanish dubs were excellent, if those were in fact the dubs used for broadcast.

[Vino]

Alright, but that's just the original tracking, not a dub. A dub is when you take a preexisting track and either embellish it, re-record it, or replace it.

One of the finer ironies of the show is that it's been cited for it's anime influences, and yet when it was finally dubbed into Japanese the acting was ridiculous. :notrust

I don't know, the series is badass enough with its voice acting, especially Ruko, I wouldn't think that a jap dub is needed.

[Jove]

I don't know, the series is badass enough with its voice acting, especially Ruko, I wouldn't think that a jap dub is needed.

That's an interesting point you bring up. I haven't heard some of the more awesome characters Japanese counterparts. I can't see anyone but James Garrett as Roku.

That also makes me wonder about Roku in the movie... he seems like a character that should have been announced already. They've already cast Ozai, and he's now shown, technically, until 301. It makes me wonder if M. Night is going to make Ozai more prevalent from the beginning.

[Koi]

I don't like that we only see Kyoshi Warrior Suki, ignoring cute Fire Nation Suki or super hot Boiling Rock Suki. :mad


I suppose that whether these shoes count as Shipping Shoes is up to theologians, but I say it does.

http://fc77.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/090/c/7/Tui_And_La_Shoes_by_Supersonic_Gabi.jpg

:wtf I love them. I love Tu and La's whole motif. I'm considering getting a tattoo just like them. :>

[Jove]

:wtf I love them. I love Tu and La's whole motif. I'm considering getting a tattoo just like them. :>

Forget the motif, get a tattoo of them. If you do that, you'll be the most desirable girl in the history of everything. :X3

This recalls discrimination I've suffered. People think it would be funny if I got a tattoo, so a while back I said I'd get a sky blue arrow on one of my hands. I was threatened not to. Fucking racistists. :cry

[ReikaiDemon]

Alright, but that's just the original tracking, not a dub. A dub is when you take a preexisting track and either embellish it, re-record it, or replace it.

One of the finer ironies of the show is that it's been cited for it's anime influences, and yet when it was finally dubbed into Japanese the acting was ridiculous. :notrust

Oh dear, here we go again :facepalm
The Original track as you call it, is pure silence, all movies and shows filmed have to be dubbed, since dubbing in a sound track and sound effects would obliterate the original voice recordings. The voices have to be mixed properly with any extraneous sounds, and then dubbed into what is essential a silent film.
The same goes for animation, anything you watch that has sound, has been dubbed, videogames, animation, live action, and so on and so on.

Please don't turn this into another filler arguement, Jovey honey :cry

[Jove]

Oh dear, here we go again :facepalm
The Original track as you call it, is pure silence, all movies and shows filmed have to be dubbed, since dubbing in a sound track and sound effects would obliterate the original voice recordings. The voices have to be mixed properly with any extraneous sounds, and then dubbed into what is essential a silent film.
The same goes for animation, anything you watch that has sound, has been dubbed, videogames, animation, live action, and so on and so on.

Please don't turn this into another filler arguement, Jovey honey :cry

The filler thing was an issue of semantics. You're just wrong about this one, hon:



Main Entry:
4dub
Function:
transitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
dubbed; dub·bing
Etymology:
by shortening & alteration from double
Date:
1930

1: to add (sound effects or new dialogue) to a film or to a radio or television production —usually used with in
2: to provide (a motion-picture film) with a new sound track and especially dialogue in a different language
3: to make a new recording of (sound or videotape already recorded) ; also : to mix (recorded sound or videotape from different sources) into a single recording
— dubber noun


Key words: "new recording," "already recorded." It's only a dub if you go back and re-record certain parts, add in dialogue, or record it in a different language.

For film, there's an original track that is provided by the boom mic or lapel mics. That audio feed is either used, and/or parts are recorded over in an ADR session, either to change dialogue or because of sound issues. That's for shows that are filmed.

For animation, yes, technically, you could possibly say that you dub a vocal track onto the animation, but that's also unnecessary. It's the original track. It's like calling the basic tracks of a recorded song dubs; dubs are what you add on after the foundational work is done.

Unless you're recording with Steve Albini. PRODUCER JOKES!

[Koi]

Forget the motif, get a tattoo of them. If you do that, you'll be the most desirable girl in the history of everything. :X3

This recalls discrimination I've suffered. People think it would be funny if I got a tattoo, so a while back I said I'd get a sky blue arrow on one of my hands. I was threatened not to. Fucking racistists. :cry

..But then you'll only love me for my tattoos, Joveku. :(

Anyway, bringin' more fanart. (is it bad that i lol a little inside whenever i see zutara? also why is it that the losing ship always has more/better fanart? :<)

http://fc39.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/200/2/c/PMS_BENDING_by_lady_voldything.jpg

Also whatever happened to Urkoda, and why is there no fanart? *sad panda*

[ReikaiDemon]

The filler thing was an issue of semantics. You're just wrong about this one, hon:



Key words: "new recording," "already recorded." It's only a dub if you go back and re-record certain parts, add in dialogue, or record it in a different language.

For film, there's an original track that is provided by the boom mic or lapel mics. That audio feed is either used, and/or parts are recorded over in an ADR session, either to change dialogue or because of sound issues. That's for shows that are filmed.

For animation, yes, technically, you could possibly say that you dub a vocal track onto the animation, but that's also unnecessary. It's the original track. It's like calling the basic tracks of a recorded song dubs; dubs are what you add on after the foundational work is done.

Unless you're recording with Steve Albini. PRODUCER JOKES!
Still, it is completely accurate to say that Avatar has an english dub.

[Superstarseven]

You're absolutely right about Zutara fanart, they take up a large amount of my favorites gallery simply because it's more abundant. It'd be nice seeing Katara and Zuko actually doing something cool like...uh, bending their elements for example. Unfortunately they're always together, never apart...doing nothing. Gazing into each other's eyes, hugging, and generally being the couple that they were never meant to be.

I've always enjoyed Jove's assessment of the Taang 'ship as being a sort of consolation prize froom Zutarians. "Well Aang absolutely cannot end up with Katara so who can we pair him up with?" Wow, talk about 2 people who shared absolutely no romantic chemistry onscreen.

[Jove]

Still, it is completely accurate to say that Avatar has an english dub.

Even if that were true, it's more accurate to say that Avatar is a show done in English.

Sorry, Koi. I can't really find any Urkoda fanart (more than enough Hakato :notrust), but maybe this will do: MELON LORD COSPLAY!!!!!


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/073/7/9/I_am_the_Melon_Lord_by_AlisaChristopher.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

Even if that were true, it's more accurate to say that Avatar is a show done in English.

Sorry, Koi. I can't really find any Urkoda fanart (more than enough Hakato :notrust), but maybe this will do: MELON LORD COSPLAY!!!!!


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/073/7/9/I_am_the_Melon_Lord_by_AlisaChristopher.jpg
How's it more accurate? Both of them are true :huh

[Jove]

How's it more accurate? Both of them are true :huh

That's if what you said was true, and what you said isn't true at all. I gave you the definition. The original-language recording is not a dub. The only part of it that can be considered dubbed are the portions recorded after the animation comes back.

[ReikaiDemon]

That's if what you said was true, and what you said isn't true at all. I gave you the definition. The original-language recording is not a dub. The only part of it that can be considered dubbed are the portions recorded after the animation comes back.
Uh, no, both are 100% true :D:
Avatar has an english dub, end of story
This is exactly like your filler rant :D:

[Jove]

Uh, no, both are 100% true :D:
Avatar has an english dub, end of story
This is exactly like your filler rant :D:

:facepalm

For the final time: dubbing, overdubbing, Dub music... all predicated upon reworking an existing recording. This is not just my opinion; I've already cited the Merriam-Webster established definition. But please, continue using your ridiculous misnomer.

[ReikaiDemon]

:facepalm

For the final time: dubbing, overdubbing, Dub music... all predicated upon reworking an existing recording. This is not just my opinion; I've already cited the Merriam-Webster established definition. But please, continue using your ridiculous misnomer.
Yes, and animation has no original audio track, it's either recorded before, or after animation
Unless of course you suggest that the VAs simultaneously record their lines as the animators draw out the animation, but that still counts as dubbing.
You're going into semantics again :D:
It's not like it makes Avatar a bad thing if it has filler or it is dubbed, that's something completely unavoidable.

[Superstarseven]

Why is this an argument? Jove is right not because I like the guy but because it's how it is. Let's take the definition from the Museum Of Broadcast Communications website -
Dubbing has two meanings in the process of television production. It is used to describe the replacement of one sound track (music, sound effects, dialogue, natural sound, etc.) by another.

Avatar most certainly has been dubbed into Spanish, German, Cantonese, Japanese etc. Nobody would say that it has an English dub, that's just simply never used when a production's original language track is in English.

[masterriku]

Anyway time to do some railroading

How would you all feel if Avatar become the American equivelent of gundam or something like that and by equivlent I mean long running action oriented animated show but hardly ever about the same people like.



also why the hell I avoided using the words anime or cartoon is beyond me >.>

[Superrazien]

I was watching Sozens Comet again on TV, and I just can't help but get disappointed for the Avatar movie. The ending to Avatars so epic, a movie could make it even more epic but I cant take this casting seriously, its really going to put a big wrench in the film even if the movies are good.

[Jove]

Anyway time to do some railroading

How would you all feel if Avatar become the American equivelent of gundam or something like that and by equivlent I mean long running action oriented animated show but hardly ever about the same people like.

I don't know what Gundam is, but that's exactly what I want. At the very least, I'd like one more story set in the Avatar world.


I was watching Sozens Comet again on TV, and I just can't help but get disappointed for the Avatar movie. The ending to Avatars so epic, a movie could make it even more epic but I cant take this casting seriously, its really going to put a big wrench in the film even if the movies are good.

Budget = Half a bill.

And even with that, I don't think it's conceivably possible to adequately adapt Sozin's Comet to live action. :(

[masterriku]

They could always use the flight CGI team for heroes :hehee

[Nøøps]

Ya a giant bison will look wierd in complete CGI >_>

[ReikaiDemon]

Ya a giant bison will look wierd in complete CGI >_>
Not if they make it as lovable as Falcor in the Neverending Story :sag

[Taurus Versant]

Falcor :iik:

[Wesley]

He's great for going to the movies. (http://falcorruinseverything.ytmnd.com/)

[Jove]

Ya a giant bison will look wierd in complete CGI >_>

Who needs CGI?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MovieAppa.png

:LOS


































http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Koi]

..But is it a bison, or a buffalo? :hmm

[ReikaiDemon]

..But is it a bison, or a buffalo? :hmm
Buffison .

[Jove]

That's an interesting question, because they call Appa a Sky Bison, but bison are only found in America and Europe. He was also called a Wind Buffalo once, and buffalo are found in only Africa and Asia. Normally, you would go with the Asian influence in Avatar, but Appa's most likely based on the White Bison, a rare breed considered sacred by some. So this is actually a rare case of domestic influence in Avatar.


So how do we get Appa and his kind? Here's the equation:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/411026143_81b589712e.jpg?v=0

+

http://collateraldamage.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/cat_bus.jpg

=

http://i43.tinypic.com/s3n1bl.jpg

[Taurus Versant]

Lulz, no hotlinking :LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

That's an interesting question, because they call Appa a Sky Bison, but bison are only found in America and Europe. He was also called a Wind Buffalo once, and buffalo are found in only Africa and Asia. Normally, you would go with the Asian influence in Avatar, but Appa's most likely based on the White Bison, a rare breed considered sacred by some. So this is actually a rare case of domestic influence in Avatar.


So how do we get Appa and his kind? Here's the equation:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/411026143_81b589712e.jpg?v=0

+

http://collateraldamage.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/cat_bus.jpg

=

http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/anim/book2/216/appa_circles_extralarge.gif
Oh Miyazaki, your imagination touches us everywhere.

I thought Appa was a yak at fist viewing :sag

[Koi]

I think Bryke admitted to the catbus influence, actually. *needs to see that god damned movie*

And remember in the episode where they freed the Earthbenders? The guards didn't know if it was a bison or a buffalo. :awesome

[ReikaiDemon]

I think Bryke admitted to the catbus influence, actually. *needs to see that god damned movie*

And remember in the episode where they freed the Earthbenders? The guards didn't know if it was a bison or a buffalo. :awesome
Yeah, pretty much the earliest interview they had was that they cited their inspirations, Totoro and Miyazaki's work in general as one of them

[Nøøps]

Lulz wait, they shuld make Bisonbus :LOS
all aboard

[Jove]

Yeah, pretty much the earliest interview they had was that they cited their inspirations, Totoro and Miyazaki's work in general as one of them

Yup. They specifically mentioned Catbus in an interview on the Book 1 Boxset, and possibly a commentary as well.

http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/089/1/8/Catbus_VS_Appa_by_raygirl.jpg

Side note, Rekky: I finally watched Storm Riders. The animation was lush, though I felt the story could have been more cohesive. Still, I liked it.

[Nøøps]

XD jimplyjee :LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

Yup. They specifically mentioned Catbus in an interview on the Book 1 Boxset, and possibly a commentary as well.

http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/089/1/8/Catbus_VS_Appa_by_raygirl.jpg

Side note, Rekky: I finally watched Storm Riders. The animation was lush, though I felt the story could have been more cohesive. Still, I liked it.
Yeah, the movie was very hectic in story, since they had to mush a whole arc into 100 minutes

[Koi]

I think mainly animatronic with hints of CGI will probably be the way to go for Appa. Like the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth. And the thought recently struck me that they might OMIT MOMO! He's not exactly integral to the plot.. D8

[ReikaiDemon]

I think mainly animatronic with hints of CGI will probably be the way to go for Appa. Like the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth. And the thought recently struck me that they might OMIT MOMO! He's not exactly integral to the plot.. D8
B-B-But but, Momo is soooooo marketable! They wouldn't dare omit him/her! :uwah

[Jove]

I think mainly animatronic with hints of CGI will probably be the way to go for Appa. Like the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth. And the thought recently struck me that they might OMIT MOMO! He's not exactly integral to the plot.. D8

You stop thinking! You stop thinking about anything ever again! :notrust:mad:notrust:mad:cussing

Yeah, the movie was very hectic in story, since they had to mush a whole arc into 100 minutes

I'm glad you had mentioned that when you linked the torrent. Knowing that I was able to relax a bit and just enjoy it.

[kakoishii]

I think mainly animatronic with hints of CGI will probably be the way to go for Appa. Like the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth. And the thought recently struck me that they might OMIT MOMO! He's not exactly integral to the plot.. D8

that would be the best way to go, but just watch they'll make him completely CGI. Hollywood stopped trying to using animatronics the second they could pull off CGI that isn't glaringly ugly on screen, which is a shame since a well worked animatronic animal would work in so much more organically than a CGI animal that everyone knows isn't actually there.

[ReikaiDemon]

that would be the best way to go, but just watch they'll make him completely CGI. Hollywood stopped trying to using animatronics the second they could pull off CGI that isn't glaringly ugly on screen, which is a shame since a well worked animatronic animal would work in so much more organically than a CGI animal that everyone knows isn't actually there.
CGI is just too cheap to use, even though it costs a measure of good ambiance

[Koi]

..This sounds like a job for..

HENSON WORKSHOP!

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Zuko learns that some people has it worse than him (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6479/1233805821884.jpg).

[kakoishii]

..This sounds like a job for..

HENSON WORKSHOP!

the second Jim Henson died, Henson workshop stopped putting out top of the line animatronics, which is a real shame but there's no helping he was the real brains of the operation. God rest his soul :(

[Jove]

the second Jim Henson died, Henson workshop stopped putting out top of the line animatronics, which is a real shame but there's no helping he was the real brains of the operation. God rest his soul :(

That's a good point.

I nominate the guys that did Wonder Showzen. :quite

[Koi]

Zuko learns that some people has it worse than him (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6479/1233805821884.jpg).Haha shit, I wasn't expecting that. :lmao

I miss Jim Henson. :(

They should just get the guy who did the Zuko/Sokka/Aang puppets at ComicCon.

[Superstarseven]

Well, Kevin Coppa does have a deep admiration for Jim Henson. I'll run it by him.
I want to go ahead and give a plug to these people (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDawningOfDarkness) who took it upon themselves to create a new series based in the Avatar world, here's a teaser trailer -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK-RhHWjPGE

Apparently the first episode is already animated. Mind you there aren't a team of Koreans working their asses off so I think we can forgive them if the animation looks a tad crude.

[Jove]

That got me really excited... then came the image of Aang's skeleton with glowing arrow. :uwah

It does seem like the most logical plot for such an elaborate fanfiction, though. The Evil Avatar theory is pretty popular.

[kakoishii]

^ I lol'ed at the skeleton head Aang :hehee I know it wasn't meant to be funny, but for some reason it made me chuckle :sweatdrop
That's an ambitious project though, I'll probably keep up with crude animation or not, after unless you've got a Korean sweat shop in your basement animation is an arduous process even with the help of computers.