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Jove
08-03-2008, 02:39 AM
I was actually thinking of going to a community bending guan ._.

Bah! No resolve, either. I'm challenging you, children!

How about another motivational poster? I know I've said this before, but this one is definitely my favorite of all-time:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/sideburnsrl0.jpg

ReikaiDemon
08-03-2008, 02:42 AM
Bah! No resolve, either. I'm challenging you, children!

How about another motivational poster? I know I've said this before, but this one is definitely my favorite of all-time:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/sideburnsrl0.jpg
I hope you don't have a healing factor ;-;
I'm just a poor half earth, half fire nation boy :<
~_~ I swat flies away from cabbages to earn very little money

Jove
08-04-2008, 03:10 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/ThreadResus.png


Here's something cool. Iroh.org has a screencap page, which isn't unusual. HOWEVER, Iroh.org's screencap page includes panshots for each episode, which are really great. Although there's a lot of shots that I would like to see, I have little idea how these are actually made, so I'm willing to accept what she offers:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/


The last six are now up, but not linked directly on the page:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep56/ep56pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep57/ep57pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep58/ep58pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep59/ep59pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep60/ep60pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep61/ep61pans.html


She does take requests, though. I might try to get her to make a panshot of the Sokka's drawing in the final scene.

ReikaiDemon
08-04-2008, 03:13 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/ThreadResus.png


Here's something cool. Iroh.org has a screencap page, which isn't unusual. HOWEVER, Iroh.org's screencap page includes panshots for each episode, which are really great. Although there's a lot of shots that I would like to see, I have little idea how these are actually made, so I'm willing to accept what she offers:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/


The last six are now up, but not linked directly on the page:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep56/ep56pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep57/ep57pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep58/ep58pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep59/ep59pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep60/ep60pans.html

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep61/ep61pans.html


She does take requests, though. I might try to get her to make a panshot of the Sokka's drawing in the final scene.
Wow, nice shots, pan shots have always been awesome in Avatar, nice to see someone take the effort to edit the frames together.

Raiden
08-04-2008, 03:13 AM
Nice job Jove. Those are some very quality screenshots.

Jove
08-04-2008, 03:26 AM
What these really illustrate is that one artbook is not nearly enough. They need at least an artbook for each Book of the show. And really, a soundtrack for each Book as well.

Also, these pans pronouncedly show the lion turtles in Sokka's Master. They were subtely hinting at it all along:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/panshots/ep44pan12.png

http://iroh.org/screencaps/panshots/ep44pan21.png

ReikaiDemon
08-04-2008, 03:30 AM
What these really illustrate is that one artbook is not nearly enough. They need at least an artbook for each Book of the show. And really, a soundtrack for each Book as well.

Also, these pans pronouncedly show the lion turtles in Sokka's Master. They were subtely hinting at it all along:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/panshots/ep44pan12.png

http://iroh.org/screencaps/panshots/ep44pan21.png
I guess lionturtle statues serve the same purpose as heaven dogs and lion statues in Chinese culture

Super Mike
08-04-2008, 03:43 AM
We're pushin 500:awesome

Jove
08-04-2008, 03:47 AM
We're pushin 500:awesome

We shall overcooooooommmmeeee...
We shal overpowwwwwerrrr iiiiitttttt...


I guess lionturtle statues serve the same purpose as heaven dogs and lion statues in Chinese culture

Yes, it seems like it's that kind of motif/idolatry. Do people complain about deus ex machina when a lion or dog plays a role in someone's life? Do they run up and down the cobblestones, waving bits of paper and shouting, "So what?!! DEM DEM DEM! Statue's not enough foreshadowing!!"

Super Mike
08-04-2008, 03:50 AM
We can break 500:gar

ReikaiDemon
08-04-2008, 04:11 AM
With our drill made of earthbending, airbending, firebending, and waterbending :LOS

Nøøps
08-04-2008, 12:05 PM
TER DOWN THAT WALL!! :LOS

ReikaiDemon
08-04-2008, 02:57 PM
TER DOWN THAT WALL!! :LOS
Pure harmony of all bending styles simultaneously is an AP(Avatar Power) class ._.
Sorry, too poor to take it -_-
*can't make drill*

Koi
08-04-2008, 03:51 PM
Cause you need heartFAN AND SWORD also.

ReikaiDemon
08-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Cause you need heartFAN AND SWORD also.
Also a very painful poke to the butt :zaru

Taurus Versant
08-04-2008, 10:50 PM
Oh the lulz.

*on exams right now. Will return in spammy glory Thursday*

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 12:36 AM
Oh the lulz.

*on exams right now. Will return in spammy glory Thursday*
D: Oh noes, I got one too, for driving *procrastinates studying*

Taurus Versant
08-05-2008, 01:36 AM
Wish I could procrastinate, but these are kinda big exams.

No worries but.

Wish I had a driving exam. It'd mean I could drive >_<

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 01:47 AM
Wish I could procrastinate, but these are kinda big exams.

No worries but.

Wish I had a driving exam. It'd mean I could drive >_<
I don't wanna drive, honestly, gas is EVIL, if only I can just firebend the combustion in the pistons out of my ass, then I'd be set:zaru. Really, I just need it as an ID

Taurus Versant
08-05-2008, 01:52 AM
Gas is pure evil, firebending much more economical.

And I'll have to take up driving, cause I'll be away from home at Uni next year.

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 02:03 AM
Gas is pure evil, firebending much more economical.

And I'll have to take up driving, cause I'll be away from home at Uni next year.
Yeah, like a special steering wheel with holes to firebend through, or just two cuff ports on the dash :iria

Taurus Versant
08-05-2008, 02:10 AM
I can keep a firebender in my trunk! :iria

No?

Too far?

Sorry. :sweatdrop

Bus time, off home. Catch you next time I log on between exams. :bye

Jove
08-05-2008, 02:36 AM
Hey ON TAWPIK GAIZ!

New Topic: Can the Air Nomads recover from their near-extinct status? This is the big question in the aftermath of the show.

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 03:07 AM
Hey ON TAWPIK GAIZ!

New Topic: Can the Air Nomads recover from their near-extinct status? This is the big question in the aftermath of the show.
It's obvious that they will recover, the Shaolin temple in the real world is proof of that, even though many fonts of knowledge are lost, secrets are slowly being relearned. The advantage that Aang has is that like all forms of bending, airbending is not genetic, or, if Lamarck was right, they scwerd long time, baby :sag
That takes care of the martial art of the nomads aspect, now, the philosophical teachings might be difficult, seeing as most of the airbenders were born into their monkship. Of course, this being "Ancient China Land" there is probably no end to the vast individuals seeking spiritual enlightenment. Let's look at this, the teachings of the nomads will NEVER survive if no one desires to seek spiritual enlightenment. It would go against all of the teachings if Aang spreads the knowledge just so he can revive the nomad life, that would be a worldly attachment, and selfish self gratification. However, if there are people who do seek enlightenment, then Aang will aid those on the path, not because he wants to bring back the ways of his native life, but to teach it as a service to people who want to transcend from suffering with genuine need. In that case, the Air Nomads have a great chance at revival, not absolute, but great nonetheless. It would be even more successful if his next three incarnations were keen enough to their past lives to allow Aang to pass down the teachings of his life, if all goes well for his next incarnations, then young air nomads will have the best teacher possible for roughly three hundred years, and this is even more hopeful with Aang's other airbender incarnations.
Truthfully, the fourth incarnation wouldn't have to be an airbender at all, we've always assumed that the Avatar reincarnates from one bending discipline to the next, but they've never ran into a shortage of any of the bending disciplines. Two things come from this, if there are no airbenders after Aang's third incarnation, either the Avatar's line ends, or he reincarnates anyways into either a waterbender after being a firebender, and the pattern continues with three benders, or become randomized, or reincarnates as a person with no affinity, or upbringing to bending whatsoever, or fits the nature of an airbender. From his incarnations, the martial art of bending will be relearned if the Avatar so chooses, however, the air nomad teachings may be more nebulous. Yet, if one looks at it another way, if the martial art is assured in spreading, then so too is the knowledge of the nomads, because from the earliest beginnings of martial arts, the skills were concieved as a method to reach enlightenment, to become closer to nature by emulating the animals so deeply seeped in them. Then as a byproduct, monks then have a way to defend themselves, others, their knowledge, and temples from other violent people. So if one looks at it from the angle of martial arts history, the art and the path of the air monks are undeniably bound to each other, and litterally be passed down from spirit.

Nizuma Eiji
08-05-2008, 03:09 AM
It's obvious that they will recover, the Shaolin temple in the real world is proof of that, even though many fonts of knowledge are lost, secrets are slowly being relearned. The advantage that Aang has is that like all forms of bending, airbending is not genetic, or, if Lamarck was right, they scwerd long time, baby :sag
That takes care of the martial art of the nomads aspect, now, the philosophical teachings might be difficult, seeing as most of the airbenders were born into their monkship. Of course, this being "Ancient China Land" there is probably no end to the vast individuals seeking spiritual enlightenment. Let's look at this, the teachings of the nomads will NEVER survive if no one desires to seek spiritual enlightenment. It would go against all of the teachings if Aang spreads the knowledge just so he can revive the nomad life, that would be a worldly attachment, and selfish self gratification. However, if there are people who do seek enlightenment, then Aang will aid those on the path, not because he wants to bring back the ways of his native life, but to teach it as a service to people who want to transcend from suffering with genuine need. In that case, the Air Nomads have a great chance at revival, not absolute, but great nonetheless. It would be even more successful if his next three incarnations were keen enough to their past lives to allow Aang to pass down the teachings of his life, if all goes well for his next incarnations, then young air nomads will have the best teacher possible for roughly three hundred years, and this is even more hopeful with Aang's other airbender incarnations.
Truthfully, the fourth incarnation wouldn't have to be an airbender at all, we've always assumed that the Avatar reincarnates from one bending discipline to the next, but they never run into a shortage of any of the bending disciplines. Two things come from this, if there are no airbenders after Aang's third incarnation, either the Avatar's line ends, or he reincarnates anyways into either a waterbender after being a firebender, and the pattern continues with three benders, or become randomized, or reincarnates as a person with no affinity, or upbringing to bending whatsoever, or fits the nature of an airbender. From his incarnations, the martial art of bending will be relearned if the Avatar so chooses, however, the air nomad teachings may be more nebulous. Yet, if one looks at it another way, if the martial art is assured in spreading, then so too is the knowledge of the nomads, because from the earliest beginnings of martial arts, the skills were concieved as a method to reach enlightenment, to become closer to nature by emulating the animals so deeply seeped in them. Then as a byproduct, monks then have a way to defend themselves, others, their knowledge, and temples from other violent people. So if one looks at it from the angle of martial arts history, the art and the path of the air monks are undeniably bound to each other, and litterally be passed down from spirit.

SUMMARIZE, NOW :sun

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 03:11 AM
SUMMARIZE, NOW :sun
It's not even that long, it takes like less than five minutes to read :D:
It just looks big because NF has skinny boards <.<
There's no more than three, five paragraphs tops :D:
That's barely three-fourths of a piece of paper :D:

Jove
08-05-2008, 04:56 AM
It's obvious that they will recover, the Shaolin temple in the real world is proof of that, even though many fonts of knowledge are lost, secrets are slowly being relearned. The advantage that Aang has is that like all forms of bending, airbending is not genetic, or, if Lamarck was right, they scwerd long time, baby :sag
That takes care of the martial art of the nomads aspect, now, the philosophical teachings might be difficult, seeing as most of the airbenders were born into their monkship. Of course, this being "Ancient China Land" there is probably no end to the vast individuals seeking spiritual enlightenment. Let's look at this, the teachings of the nomads will NEVER survive if no one desires to seek spiritual enlightenment. It would go against all of the teachings if Aang spreads the knowledge just so he can revive the nomad life, that would be a worldly attachment, and selfish self gratification. However, if there are people who do seek enlightenment, then Aang will aid those on the path, not because he wants to bring back the ways of his native life, but to teach it as a service to people who want to transcend from suffering with genuine need. In that case, the Air Nomads have a great chance at revival, not absolute, but great nonetheless. It would be even more successful if his next three incarnations were keen enough to their past lives to allow Aang to pass down the teachings of his life, if all goes well for his next incarnations, then young air nomads will have the best teacher possible for roughly three hundred years, and this is even more hopeful with Aang's other airbender incarnations.
Truthfully, the fourth incarnation wouldn't have to be an airbender at all, we've always assumed that the Avatar reincarnates from one bending discipline to the next, but they've never ran into a shortage of any of the bending disciplines. Two things come from this, if there are no airbenders after Aang's third incarnation, either the Avatar's line ends, or he reincarnates anyways into either a waterbender after being a firebender, and the pattern continues with three benders, or become randomized, or reincarnates as a person with no affinity, or upbringing to bending whatsoever, or fits the nature of an airbender. From his incarnations, the martial art of bending will be relearned if the Avatar so chooses, however, the air nomad teachings may be more nebulous. Yet, if one looks at it another way, if the martial art is assured in spreading, then so too is the knowledge of the nomads, because from the earliest beginnings of martial arts, the skills were concieved as a method to reach enlightenment, to become closer to nature by emulating the animals so deeply seeped in them. Then as a byproduct, monks then have a way to defend themselves, others, their knowledge, and temples from other violent people. So if one looks at it from the angle of martial arts history, the art and the path of the air monks are undeniably bound to each other, and litterally be passed down from spirit.

AHAHAHAHAHA! I instigated all this, and for what?! It's already been settled:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/scan0032n.jpg

T'IS CANON!!!! YOU IS NAUGHT! :quite :edu :quite


But I specifically meant the practice of airbending, since Air Nomads without airbending are just nomads. The culture exists in response to the ability.

And in this, I believe that Mike and Bryan are wrong about the continuity of their own show.

They probably understand the ramifications of the full disintegration of the Air Nomads. It upends the balance of the Avatar universe, and more importantly ends the Avatar cycle, which logically would sever the connection between the physical and Spirit World, thus resulting in the removal of bending from the world.

At this point, the world is vacant, and could conceivably evolve by devolution to the original source, energy bending. And, possibly, the Avatar Spirit would be reborn, and the cycle would either be renewed or just reconnected, treating the previous years as an extended hiatus.

The question that remains is, why didn't any Air Nomads arise in Aang's 100 year disappearance. Even without the orthodoxy of the Air Temples, someone should have unwittingly exhibited Airbending talent. But no one did, and I believe it is akin to Aang's inability to master the Avatar State, based upon Guru Pathik's teachings, teachings that were sagacious but inappropriate for Aang. Because of this tutelage, Aang's thought chakra was blocked. Likewise, Aang's incapacitation in the iceberg affected the proper connection between the Spirit World and the physical world, and negated the spiritual basics of Airbending, the spiritual connection to the element itself.

I believe that by the time the elemental cycle returns to Air, there will be the nascent signs of Air Nomad civilization in at least two temples. As the lion-turtle says, the source of bending comes from the energy within us, the flow of qi. The arrows on Aang's body represents this path. And although the original Airbenders learned from the Sky Bison, eventually they taught each other. The power is within complementary spirits... they shall learn once more.

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 05:41 AM
AHAHAHAHAHA! I instigated all this, and for what?! It's already been settled:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/scan0032n.jpg

T'IS CANON!!!! YOU IS NAUGHT! :quite :edu :quite


But I specifically meant the practice of airbending, since Air Nomads without airbending are just nomads. The culture exists in response to the ability.

And in this, I believe that Mike and Bryan are wrong about the continuity of their own show.

They probably understand the ramifications of the full disintegration of the Air Nomads. It upends the balance of the Avatar universe, and more importantly ends the Avatar cycle, which logically would sever the connection between the physical and Spirit World, thus resulting in the removal of bending from the world.

At this point, the world is vacant, and could conceivably evolve by devolution to the original source, energy bending. And, possibly, the Avatar Spirit would be reborn, and the cycle would either be renewed or just reconnected, treating the previous years as an extended hiatus.

The question that remains is, why didn't any Air Nomads arise in Aang's 100 year disappearance. Even without the orthodoxy of the Air Temples, someone should have unwittingly exhibited Airbending talent. But no one did, and I believe it is akin to Aang's inability to master the Avatar State, based upon Guru Pathik's teachings, teachings that were sagacious but inappropriate for Aang. Because of this tutelage, Aang's thought chakra was blocked. Likewise, Aang's incapacitation in the iceberg affected the proper connection between the Spirit World and the physical world, and negated the spiritual basics of Airbending, the spiritual connection to the element itself.

I believe that by the time the elemental cycle returns to Air, there will be the nascent signs of Air Nomad civilization in at least two temples. As the lion-turtle says, the source of bending comes from the energy within us, the flow of qi. The arrows on Aang's body represents this path. And although the original Airbenders learned from the Sky Bison, eventually they taught each other. The power is within complementary spirits... they shall learn once more.
I'm sure mike carefully choose his words, he used "likely" which means there can be a chance that either air benders will exist, or they won't. It could go either way :edu Quite possibly, the world just may have lost the way to express the nature of airbending, the nature still exist, but the knowledge to express it with chi could, or could not exist anymore. The Avatar could still exist, even if the last two airbenders, Appa and Aang, die. Or, they could be reborn as benders of a new discipline, a new foundation of airbending based on different teachings. There could be many outcomes, a new Avatar line altogether, a realignment for new balance, or refinement into pure contact kung fu, a return to spirit bending, since the kung fu we know today is basically contact spirit bending by principle.

Though, I'm confident airbending nomads will make a comeback, since in all other bending nations, they share the same principles. Waterbending, most similar to airbending, can perhaps respawn airbending through gradual refinement of waterbending(specifically the change of state in waterbending, steam could lead to an understanding of air, the fluid nature of water is much like air as well), which will then revive the nonviolent life style of the nomads through the practice.

Linkdarkside
08-05-2008, 03:54 PM
SUMMARIZE, NOW :sunthe airbenders are dead.

Jove
08-05-2008, 05:10 PM
I'm sure mike carefully choose his words, he used "likely" which means there can be a chance that either air benders will exist, or they won't. It could go either way :edu Quite possibly, the world just may have lost the way to express the nature of airbending, the nature still exist, but the knowledge to express it with chi could, or could not exist anymore. The Avatar could still exist, even if the last two airbenders, Appa and Aang, die. Or, they could be reborn as benders of a new discipline, a new foundation of airbending based on different teachings. There could be many outcomes, a new Avatar line altogether, a realignment for new balance, or refinement into pure contact kung fu, a return to spirit bending, since the kung fu we know today is basically contact spirit bending by principle.

Though, I'm confident airbending nomads will make a comeback, since in all other bending nations, they share the same principles. Waterbending, most similar to airbending, can perhaps respawn airbending through gradual refinement of waterbending(specifically the change of state in waterbending, steam could lead to an understanding of air, the fluid nature of water is much like air as well), which will then revive the nonviolent life style of the nomads through the practice.

One of Bryke's main arguments is that the show is called Avatar: the LAST Airbender.

But if I'm eating grapes, and there's only one grape left on the vine, that's the last grape. At that moment. But it's not the last grape I'll ever eat, unless I die eating it. Odds are, there are more grapes in my refrigerator.

Just because Aang is currently the Last Airbender does not preclude future Airbenders.

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 05:13 PM
One of Bryke's main arguments is that the show is called Avatar: the LAST Airbender.

But if I'm eating grapes, and there's only one grape left on the vine, that's the last grape. At that moment. But it's not the last grape I'll ever eat, unless I die eating it. Odds are, there are more grapes in my refrigerator.

Just because Aang is currently the Last Airbender does not preclude future Airbenders.
That's what I'm saying D:

Nøøps
08-05-2008, 05:57 PM
500 is so AVATAR

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 07:05 PM
500 is so AVATAR
And we'll get to 500 once Tarsy and the others are done with exams :LOS

masterriku
08-05-2008, 08:59 PM
And we'll get to 500 once Tarsy and the others are done with exams :LOS


Exams in august:huh

oh wait they live in the southern seas don't they crazy place.

ReikaiDemon
08-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Exams in august:huh

oh wait they live in the southern seas don't they crazy place.
Crazy like crazy pills :LOS

Super Mike
08-05-2008, 11:00 PM
We're pushin 500:gar

Jove
08-06-2008, 02:04 AM
We're pushin 500:gar

Hey, don't spam. This is a place of substance, not the UG. :pek



:LOS



Sweet side-note: Score! I nabbed one of the t-shirts handed out at the SDCC panel on ebay:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/5890_1.jpg

ReikaiDemon
08-06-2008, 07:12 AM
Hey, don't spam. This is a place of substance, not the UG. :pek



:LOS



Sweet side-note: Score! I nabbed one of the t-shirts handed out at the SDCC panel on ebay:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/5890_1.jpg
Looks very Bruce Lee :thumbs

Nøøps
08-06-2008, 02:55 PM
that Avatar shirt looks so AVATAR

Jove
08-06-2008, 04:15 PM
I have this one, too. I believe this one is equally AVATAR, although I'll probably change my mind when I see the SDCC one in person.

http://www.musogato.com/avatar/merchandise/tshirt-creator1.jpg

Hellion
08-06-2008, 05:15 PM
is this show done. I added the 3 books from netflix

ReikaiDemon
08-06-2008, 05:29 PM
is this show done. I added the 3 books from netflix
Yes, it's over o_o You didn't see the finale?

Hellion
08-06-2008, 05:32 PM
Nope. But I saw a few episodes here and there and I knew thT I would like it I just didn't have the time

Mider T
08-06-2008, 05:51 PM
Watch it NAO

Hellion
08-06-2008, 05:57 PM
I am :ano ..

Jove
08-06-2008, 06:19 PM
I am :ano ..

KEEP WATCHING :sun

Superstarseven
08-06-2008, 06:47 PM
I have this one, too. I believe this one is equally AVATAR, although I'll probably change my mind when I see the SDCC one in person.

http://www.musogato.com/avatar/merchandise/tshirt-creator1.jpg

This one is so AVATAR that Bryan wore it during the signing on the 20th.
Which brings up something interesting. I know it's tacky to wear a shirt from a band that you're in so does that extend to show creators also?
Oh yeah I also read something where Sifu Kisu himself that he didn't want to involve himself in the entertainment industry ever again. Which is funnily enough something he said before he started work on Avatar too. Point being is that if the franchise continues in Animated form again, it'll be a bit strange to know that Kisu isn't behind any Bending movements used.
Kisu has been everybody! Team Avatar, Haru, Zhao, Azula, Tyro, Ozai.

Well when the time comes I'm sure that M&B will choose someone just as good to replace him.

The Cheat
08-06-2008, 07:29 PM
People are still bitching that aang didn't give up katara, but would happen if he really did give up katara completely?

Jove
08-06-2008, 08:11 PM
This one is so AVATAR that Bryan wore it during the signing on the 20th.
Which brings up something interesting. I know it's tacky to wear a shirt from a band that you're in so does that extend to show creators also?
Oh yeah I also read something where Sifu Kisu himself that he didn't want to involve himself in the entertainment industry ever again. Which is funnily enough something he said before he started work on Avatar too. Point being is that if the franchise continues in Animated form again, it'll be a bit strange to know that Kisu isn't behind any Bending movements used.
Kisu has been everybody! Team Avatar, Haru, Zhao, Azula, Tyro, Ozai.

Well when the time comes I'm sure that M&B will choose someone just as good to replace him.

I was going to mention that, that Konietzko wore that shirt at the signing. It's definitely unsettling. You just can't wear a shirt associated with the event you're attending.

As for Kisu... we all know what grandiose statements by Kisu are worth: lulz, and nothing else.


And as for Aang and that ridiculous argument that he had to let Katara go, if he let her go, it would be the same as if he killed Ozai: a complete betrayal of his innate character. And not just his character, but the Avatar State, as Yangchen clearly explained. He's supposed to be connected to this world.

Super Mike
08-07-2008, 12:00 AM
We're pushin 500:gar

Noah
08-07-2008, 12:14 AM
Ok, we get it. This isn't the goddamn TTGL thread, so you can cut that shit out.

We reach 500 here with substance, not omgkaminawankwank.

And now, on topic: The first, larger shirt is more AVATAR than the second, smaller one.

Jove
08-07-2008, 12:20 AM
Ok, we get it. This isn't the goddamn TTGL thread, so you can cut that shit out.

We reach 500 here with substance, not omgkaminawankwank.

And now, on topic: The first, larger shirt is more AVATAR than the second, smaller one.

I'm pretty sure this is true, but the 2nd one has been with me so long it's hard to put anything above it. I forgot to mention that it's outrageously comfortable. Nice soft fabric, but surprisingly durable.

masterriku
08-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Ok, we get it. This isn't the goddamn TTGL thread, so you can cut that shit out.

We reach 500 here with substance, not omgkaminawankwank.

And now, on topic: The first, larger shirt is more AVATAR than the second, smaller one.

Kaminawankawank sorry couldn't resist.

I suppose I should put some substance in this post

I personally prefer the first one aswell.
If there is a second series should use this one or make a new theard

what did robotkiller say he would do if this ended up like the TTGL theard I can't remember so we don't have to worry tooo much.

Jove
08-07-2008, 01:06 AM
Kaminawankawank sorry couldn't resist.

I suppose I should put some substance in this post

I personally prefer the first one aswell.
If there is a second series should use this one or make a new theard


That's an excellent question. I'd say it would have to be a new thread. The subtitle would be different, and by the time a new series was ready to air, it would warrant a new thread. Not to mention, it would be a new story with entirely new characters... the only similarity would be the show's setting.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 01:24 AM
You know, sometimes I forget this is a discussion thread, and not an FC ._.

Jove
08-07-2008, 01:29 AM
You know, sometimes I forget this is a discussion thread, and not an FC ._.

Technically, it's a "discusion" thread. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

And there's still plenty to talk about, to 500 and beyond. I'm still going to rank all 61 episodes, and there's still the mop-up Rewatch. And in such time, you'll spark several left-turn memes.

I'm also surprised that everyone likes the first short better. My bond with the second is strong, I admit.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 01:35 AM
All tonight on Avatar Central :zaru Hosted by Jove

Jove
08-07-2008, 01:51 AM
All tonight on Avatar Central :zaru Hosted by Jove

There is one thing I could do if things got really bad... I could post a list of every piece of Avatar merch and paraphernalia I have. It'd probably end the thread, and terrify everyone. It'd be a LONG list.

Not as astounding as fandom notable Avatar Mom's definitive collection, but still pretty unsettling to anyone that flirts with sanity.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 01:56 AM
I never liked merch that much, too many sweatshop laborers. Plus they're pretty low quality most of the time. Like the rebranded DBZ Avatar "action figures"

Jove
08-07-2008, 02:06 AM
I never liked merch that much, too many sweatshop laborers. Plus they're pretty low quality most of the time. Like the rebranded DBZ Avatar "action figures"

The figures vary in quality. The Blue Spirit one is awesome. But I'm not a figures collector. Actually, I'm anathema to figures; Avatar obsession overrides this.

The best stuff comes from the SDCC. I got this great poster they handed out in '06 that was a recreation of the Appa wanted poster from Lake Laogai.

My favorite is definitely the giant Appa plush, though. It says 24" long on the Nick Shop, but it's really 38. It's fucking enormous/AVATAR.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 02:18 AM
The Appa plush is adorable :ohpek I want it for a pillow, but I would guess it was made in a sweatshop too.... I hate sweatshops :cry

Jove
08-07-2008, 02:22 AM
The Appa plush is adorable :ohpek I want it for a pillow, but I would guess it was made in a sweatshop too.... I hate sweatshops :cry

Watchoo kiddin me? Young, supple asian girls, hot, sticky, woefully exhausted with eyes half-closed and slumped over antiquated sewing machines... if that's a system that's wrong, then what I do thinking about it must be downright demonic. :zaru

masterriku
08-07-2008, 02:26 AM
There is one thing I could do if things got really bad... I could post a list of every piece of Avatar merch and paraphernalia I have. It'd probably end the thread, and terrify everyone. It'd be a LONG list.

Not as astounding as fandom notable Avatar Mom's definitive collection, but still pretty unsettling to anyone that flirts with sanity.

do that once we hit 500:LOS

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 02:34 AM
Watchoo kiddin me? Young, supple asian girls, hot, sticky, woefully exhausted with eyes half-closed and slumped over antiquated sewing machines... if that's a system that's wrong, then what I do thinking about it must be downright demonic. I rarely find that funny, as sweatshop labor killed half of my family, and severely scarred my dad before they found refuge in America :notrust

In addendum, I hate your guts for that sick joke. Funny, I liked you a lot, really.

Jove
08-07-2008, 02:56 AM
Quick subject change: best hairstyle on Avatar.

5. Book 3 Sokka
4. Suki
3. First half of Book 3 Aang
2. Toph
1. Zhao

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 03:08 AM
Quick subject change: best hairstyle on Avatar.

5. Book 3 Sokka
4. Suki
3. First half of Book 3 Aang
2. Toph
1. Zhao
Crazula.......




















You bastard <.<

Mider T
08-07-2008, 03:13 AM
Sokka- tent style waiting for Suki but getting Zuko instead.

Yes that's the whole name of the hairstyle:pek

Jove
08-07-2008, 03:15 AM
Hmmm, I guess I should have been more specific... Book 3 Sokka meant the ponytail with growth on the sides, but it should encompass all of Book 3 Sokka. But dammit, Mider, you just killed me. :sad

The entirety of Azula was my original #4, but then I thought of Suki in Boiling Rock and... I couldn't resist.


ZHAOBURNS ARE EPITOME OF AVATAR.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 03:19 AM
Sokka- tent style waiting for Suki but getting Zuko instead.

Yes that's the whole name of the hairstyle:pek
So Sokka plays both sides of the field now?

Mider T
08-07-2008, 03:21 AM
Sokka can do anything. Who else do you know pwns fire nationers laying down with a broken leg?

Also is it just me or did Hakoda's hair go from Brown to Gray over the course of the series?

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 03:34 AM
Sokka can do anything. Who else do you know pwns fire nationers laying down with a broken leg?

Also is it just me or did Hakoda's hair go from Brown to Gray over the course of the series?
That's some clever subtle ness there :iria
Either that, or the new lighting in the later episodes threw the colors a little off shade

Jove
08-07-2008, 03:36 AM
Sokka can do anything. Who else do you know pwns fire nationers laying down with a broken leg?

Also is it just me or did Hakoda's hair go from Brown to Gray over the course of the series?

Looks pretty brown right here, in the coronation scene:

http://iroh.org/screencaps/ep61/ep61-1170.png

Mider T
08-07-2008, 03:42 AM
Oh okay, could've sworn in the Boiling Rock though....he did look pretty roughed up though

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 06:08 AM
Jove, I can't recognise the other guy in your sig, the one who isn't Gyasto :arg

And greetings all. How've we been?

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 06:24 AM
Jove, I can't recognise the other guy in your sig, the one who isn't Gyasto :arg

And greetings all. How've we been?
Fire Lord Sozin?

Gary
08-07-2008, 06:56 AM
So guys Im going ot watch this as soon as Im done reading my manga

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 08:00 AM
Sounds about right, Reikai. And you know your sheer awesomeness has made this thread overload with AVATAR multiple times.

Gary, join us. Avatar is truly an experience. :iria

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 08:30 AM
Sounds about right, Reikai. And you know your sheer awesomeness has made this thread overload with AVATAR multiple times.

Gary, join us. Avatar is truly an experience. :iria
Yes, drink the kool aid :LOS I assure you, it's not full of cyanide and rat poison :LOS :LOS :LOS

Jove
08-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Jove, I can't recognise the other guy in your sig, the one who isn't Gyasto :arg

And greetings all. How've we been?

It's Roku.

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 07:33 PM
OSHI-

I couldn't recognise younger Roku? :arg

I'm a terrible Avatar fan. *goes off to watch The Avatar and the Firelord*

Jove
08-07-2008, 07:57 PM
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/211/f/4/WANG_PIE_by_Eucharis42.jpg

:awesome

http://eucharis42.deviantart.com/art/WANG-PIE-93225804

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 08:03 PM
That's like, combining Piebending with Awesomebending at the same time. I didn't think anyone was capable of that.

:iria!

AVATAR

Mider T
08-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Time to market Iroh's Dragon Jasmine Tea

Nizuma Eiji
08-07-2008, 09:03 PM
^^That would make AVATAR amounts of cash.

Jove
08-07-2008, 10:27 PM
We never got a ruling on Iroh's opinion of iced tea... he never even mentioned Black Tea at all. Would he consider iced tea to be apostasy, sacrilege, brilliance?

Actually, now that I think about it, the Avatar world might not have iced tea at all. But this is something I need to know about. I do believe Iroh would be appalled by the very conceit of such a thing

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 10:32 PM
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/211/f/4/WANG_PIE_by_Eucharis42.jpg

:awesome

http://eucharis42.deviantart.com/art/WANG-PIE-93225804
It looks like a moon cake :ohpek
Time to market Iroh's Dragon Jasmine TeaOh gawd, it'll be in plastic bottles like snapple tea :argh I really don't want to see Avatar whored out to merchandise like that.

Next, we'll get Avatar toilet paper, each square is a frame of animation! :argh Funny how that works out on many levels.

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Wang Fire surpassed all boundaries and took Suki to the moon.

What happened there, one can only theorise...:awesome

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 10:37 PM
Wang Fire surpassed all boundaries and took Suki to the moon.

What happened there, one can only theorise...:awesome
Threesome with the moon?

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 10:40 PM
One can only wonder...

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 10:48 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/7/reikaiwanwang128626337251111871.jpg

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 10:50 PM
The Lolcats are strong with this one.

Lolcatbending? :awesome

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 10:52 PM
The Lolcats are strong with this one.

Lolcatbending? :awesome
I think if I bent a kitty, it's poor wittle spine would snap and it'd die =; ;=

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 10:54 PM
Tha's no good. Lolcats cannot die.

Maybe you should stick to awesomebending. Go with what you know.

ReikaiDemon
08-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Tha's no good. Lolcats cannot die.

Maybe you should stick to awesomebending. Go with what you know.
I bends sanities myself =o o=
Make you think all your saves are erased and stuffs =o o=

Taurus Versant
08-07-2008, 11:02 PM
OH NOES, MY SAVES ARE GON-

Oh I see what you did thar. :avatar

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 12:04 AM
OH NOES, MY SAVES ARE GON-

Oh I see what you did thar. :avatar
Sanity bent :LOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2LU48pDd7c

Jove
08-08-2008, 03:18 PM
Here's an incredulously AVATAR and rare Avatar item that I own:

http://i10.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/f2/31/f118_1.JPG


These are made buy a girl in Florida, and periodically put up on ebay. They look cool here, but in person they are stunningly beautiful. exceptional work. I kept missing out on the auctions, but went out of my way to get them several months ago. I'd say I've worn 55% Water, 25% Air, 12% Earth and 8% Fire.

No sanity bending going on in my direction; I have none to bend. :AVATAR

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Here's an incredulously AVATAR and rare Avatar item that I own:

http://i10.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/f2/31/f118_1.JPG


These are made buy a girl in Florida, and periodically put up on ebay. They look cool here, but in person they are stunningly beautiful. exceptional work. I kept missing out on the auctions, but went out of my way to get them several months ago. I'd say I've worn 55% Water, 25% Air, 12% Earth and 8% Fire.

No sanity bending going on in my direction; I have none to bend. :AVATAR
Nice of one of those were made of wood, accompanied by wood beads :sag

Hey, spiral energy! :iria

Mider T
08-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Cool, where at in Florida?

Superstarseven
08-08-2008, 04:04 PM
I don't know how you get away with it Jove.
Do you ever get in crazy arguments with the wife over to buy diapers rather than an Aang plushie?

Jove
08-08-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't know how you get away with it Jove.
Do you ever get in crazy arguments with the wife over to buy diapers rather than an Aang plushie?

Are you continuing with this "Jove is 44" business? I'm +44, nugga. That's what I is. No wife, and I bet giant Appa makes sure it stays that way for a while. :notrust

But if such an argument ever does occur, I'm putting my foot down every time... and while I'm out buying the diapers, I'll just mugbend some cash out of some yuppie and buy the fucking thing anyway.

My friends, though, of varying races, genders, and socio-economic backgrounds, are mostly bemused by it all. But things like giant Appa, wearing a pendant each day, those are the things that really bothers them.

Superstarseven
08-08-2008, 05:53 PM
Well now Jove it's 2008. My 27 year old married friend is going on his 4th kid.
Anyway I am slightly jealous. The only thing I own with Avatar's name on it are the Nick special edition magazines. The shirts don't fit, action figures looked pretty lame, haven't had a game system since Super Nintendo (own choice) and my boo boos have been pretty tame so I didn't feel the need to buy Band-Aids with Aang's face on them.
Oh that's right I do have the Season 2 box set and waiting anxiously for September to purchase the Book 3 set also.

Anyway though Jove why are your friends weirded out by the stuff you mentioned? I mean wasn't the Konoha headband you wore on casual fridays and Akatsuki ring on each finger strange enough? Simply trading one obsession for another the way I see it.

Jove
08-08-2008, 06:07 PM
Actually, I was the one that's wrong. 27 with a quatro of chill'ins is 1958 orthodoxy.

So you're slightly jealous because I've bought a bunch of stuff that you have no interest in buying?

My friends are stupid. Let them have their precious Heroes and Dexter. Inferior bollocks.

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 06:22 PM
Can't we just have some Wang Fire pie? ._.

Superstarseven
08-08-2008, 06:30 PM
So you're slightly jealous because I've bought a bunch of stuff that you have no interest in buying?


Hells yeah man. I wouldn't mind owning it but I wouldn't buy it.
Contradictory? Of course. But who's gonna unload all their show crap in my hands one lucky day?
Although damn Avatar_mom went overboard. There's somebody who should be worrying about diaper money...or a college fund, whatever. Seriously though I'd like to ask her what she was into before she went loco on Avatar merchandise.

Mider T
08-08-2008, 06:42 PM
:rotfl You guys crack me up

Jove
08-08-2008, 07:31 PM
Hells yeah man. I wouldn't mind owning it but I wouldn't buy it.
Contradictory? Of course. But who's gonna unload all their show crap in my hands one lucky day?
Although damn Avatar_mom went overboard. There's somebody who should be worrying about diaper money...or a college fund, whatever. Seriously though I'd like to ask her what she was into before she went loco on Avatar merchandise.

Yeah, that's one that I'm interested in as well. I buy one of everything. She buys at least half a dozen of everything. She's talked about going to comic cons in 1988, so it's not like she got into this sort of thing arbitrarily.

I really don't envy her enormous collection, besides the chibi bobbleheads she got when she took that tour of the studios.

Nizuma Eiji
08-08-2008, 07:38 PM
So who's gonna be the 1st one in here to name their kid after a character from Avatar?

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 07:43 PM
So who's gonna be the 1st one in here to name their kid after a character from Avatar?
I actually know a lot of people named Aang

Nizuma Eiji
08-08-2008, 07:45 PM
WTF?? Like little kids, teens, or adults?

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 07:56 PM
WTF?? Like little kids, teens, or adults?
Aang's a pretty common name, their names are actually one of the common names, An, pronounced like Anne. They spell their name with a G to prevent confusion of genders, due to it sounding like Anne.
For example, Ang Lee, the movie director does this, though, some dispute that his name is actually Ha 'an or Gang.

Ryuk
08-08-2008, 10:04 PM
Aang is an epic name.:awesome

masterriku
08-08-2008, 11:26 PM
Aang is an epic name.:awesome

I give it 2 hours tops till some one schools you on the proper vocabulary in this theard:quite

Taurus Versant
08-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Aang is an epic name.:awesome

epic name

epic

epic

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/683/thisisspartaju3.png

Luckyday
08-08-2008, 11:52 PM
Did anyone notice that when Jun was in a bar fight that she fighting against a guy that look like Ryo from Street Fighter?

Taurus Versant
08-08-2008, 11:53 PM
Same when we met her as well.

She spends her days off pwning every other show ever.

ReikaiDemon
08-08-2008, 11:56 PM
Did anyone notice that when Jun was in a bar fight that she fighting against a guy that look like Ryo from Street Fighter?
lol, that was said PAGES ago.
He shoryuken'ed her offscreen

Noah
08-09-2008, 12:40 AM
Ryo. Art of Fighting.
Ryu. Street Fighter.

Big difference, yo. :zaru

Taurus Versant
08-09-2008, 12:44 AM
Nonetheless, Jun owns. That is fact. :hmpf

Noah
08-09-2008, 12:58 AM
It most surely is. :awesome

Jove
08-09-2008, 01:33 AM
Jun also ships Zutara. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

Taurus Versant
08-09-2008, 01:35 AM
Some victories cannot be won by a giant mole with a paralysing tongue. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

Jove
08-09-2008, 01:39 AM
As long as DeviantArt exists, so shall Zutara. It's the sinews of the place.

Taurus Versant
08-09-2008, 02:03 AM
Deviantart is the Ship Graveyard.

IsoloKiro
08-09-2008, 03:23 AM
Katara was with....most guys...

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 10:00 AM
DeviantArt is pure evil for small artists, just a buncha Nazis are what DA is :yell

Noah
08-09-2008, 12:23 PM
Katara was with....most guys...

Point taken. What a ho. :zaru

DA is good for only two things: Being a shipper's wank paradise, and super sweet OC tournaments.

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 12:24 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/9/sozinscomet128627691467789297.jpg

AiSakuraHana
08-09-2008, 04:46 PM
I just say:
about 2 years ago, when i head about it. I tought, omg not some lame "american copic anime", so did not see it.
About some half year ago i gave it a chance. and you know what? I wish i never gave it a chance.

That show suck! I made people angery?

Superstarseven
08-09-2008, 05:25 PM
I just say:
about 2 years ago, when i head about it. I tought, omg not some lame "american copic anime", so did not see it.
About some half year ago i gave it a chance. and you know what? I wish i never gave it a chance.

That show suck! I made people angery? :zaru

What am I supposed to be getting from this? Not sure what you're looking for here. Outrage maybe? Want me to call you a troll and then flame you afterwards?
'cause to be honest...I'm not really feeling it right now. You're not even visiting this thread again. Hit and run, whatever.
Thank you and God bless.

Next.

Jove
08-09-2008, 05:37 PM
What am I supposed to be getting from this? Not sure what you're looking for here. Outrage maybe? Want me to call you a troll and then flame you afterwards?
'cause to be honest...I'm not really feeling it right now. You're not even visiting this thread again. Hit and run, whatever.
Thank you and God bless.

Next.

I believe you need to punctuate that feeble troll attempt/ braindead-anime-fanatic character work with a sokka facepalm:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

It exists for the few.

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 05:39 PM
I just say:
about 2 years ago, when i head about it. I tought, omg not some lame "american copic anime", so did not see it.
About some half year ago i gave it a chance. and you know what? I wish i never gave it a chance.

That show suck! I made people angery? :zaru
It's always nice to hear other opinions, I quite liked it, gives variety and scale to the now, near 100 percent in favor of the series regulars here.
I think it's healthy for people to express what they like and don't like. It's alright with me if a few people don't like it, at least it doesn't change how I think of Avatar, and it doesn't change the quality of the show in any way.
So thanks for sharing, I thought it was quite enlightening to meet one person who doesn't like it, could make for an enthralling discussion.

Noah
08-09-2008, 08:28 PM
Aw, you guys missed it. The post has cookie monster. That means he/she/it loves the show, but is just a little cranky about the lack of Irophakumi and has to express it in a retardo-like fashion. :zaru

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 08:40 PM
Aw, you guys missed it. The post has cookie monster. That means he/she/it loves the show, but is just a little cranky about the lack of Irophakumi and has to express it in a retardo-like fashion. :zaru
I know :zaru
Just practicing my mind blowing kindness when real haters show up :iria

Nizuma Eiji
08-09-2008, 09:52 PM
I just say:
about 2 years ago, when i head about it. I tought, omg not some lame "american copic anime", so did not see it.
About some half year ago i gave it a chance. and you know what? I wish i never gave it a chance.

That show suck! I made people angery? :zaru

Awwww :laugh Is someone seeking attention?
P.S. You spelled angry wrong.

BladeofTheChad
08-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Well, I love this show(Zuko being my fave character, he's like a cool Sasuke;)).

But, I honestly didn't like the ending. Now, I don't enjoy killing for the sake of killing, but are you honestly going to tell me that NO ONE on the good guy side lost their life(maybe if you count Jet, but that was never really clear;)).

Also, I enjoyed characters that refrain from killing back in Rurouni Kenshin/Trigun days, but now, I just really wanted to see the Fire Lord get what was coming to him.

Also, I'm not down with the Katara and Aang pairing. Zuko and Katara damnit. Well, besides that it was awesome. I loved the Ember Island Players and Southern Raiders eps. and really enjoyed the Sozin's Comet till the very ending(i just don't like super happy endings) and the Zuko and Uncle Iroh reunion actually got me tearing up. So, definitely a great show, but not as good of an ending as I wanted.

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 10:43 PM
Well, I love this show(Zuko being my fave character, he's like a cool Sasuke;)).

But, I honestly didn't like the ending. Now, I don't enjoy killing for the sake of killing, but are you honestly going to tell me that NO ONE on the good guy side lost their life(maybe if you count Jet, but that was never really clear;)).

Also, I enjoyed characters that refrain from killing back in Rurouni Kenshin/Trigun days, but now, I just really wanted to see the Fire Lord get what was coming to him.

Also, I'm not down with the Katara and Aang pairing. Zuko and Katara damnit. Well, besides that it was awesome. I loved the Ember Island Players and Southern Raiders eps. and really enjoyed the Sozin's Comet till the very ending(i just don't like super happy endings) and the Zuko and Uncle Iroh reunion actually got me tearing up. So, definitely a great show, but not as good of an ending as I wanted.
That's not true, COUNTLESS people on the "good" side died, it's just that they were all background characters, and it's only common sense to count a bunch of other people during the 100 years of war.

BladeofTheChad
08-09-2008, 10:46 PM
That isn't the same and you know it.

Jove
08-09-2008, 10:52 PM
Also, I enjoyed characters that refrain from killing back in Rurouni Kenshin/Trigun days, but now, I just really wanted to see the Fire Lord get what was coming to him.
.

Aang blocked his qi; Ozai would be better off dead.

Kaenboshi
08-09-2008, 11:02 PM
Ozai living isn't as grating when you consider what happened. Sure, Aang thought of it like he was showing him mercy, but in reality there would have been more dignity in dying.

ReikaiDemon
08-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Ozai living isn't as grating when you consider what happened. Sure, Aang thought of it like he was showing him mercy, but in reality there would have been more dignity in dying.
Not to mention it would just convey the idea of killing the fire lord to assume power is the way to become a new fire lord. For rulers like Ozai, if he were to die, then the Chinese belief would be that he would take seat in Heaven and rule for eternity alongside other rulers, if he dies during his term, especially considering he has donned a new warlord title. Aang has pretty much disgraced Ozai, and left him in a enfeebled life. Azula was the firelord for a short while, and she was spared, the same kind of thing goes for her, she simply just doesn't go straight to Heaven by beliefs with her term ended in an ignoble way.

AiSakuraHana
08-10-2008, 09:07 AM
Iam not here to make anyone angry! (and i dont care if it speld wrong) :pek
when i saw the serie frist i was okay, this is okay. the fights are pretty good! But when i saw the ending i was, wtf? that was that?
This is so child show :D: I had it so bad after that, so that maybe why i write it in that way i did... i never felt so bad after a show...
Sorry guys, but this is how i feel. So please dont be angry! :ano I hate it that way!

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 11:18 AM
Iam not here to make anyone angry! (and i dont care if it speld wrong) :pek
when i saw the serie frist i was okay, this is okay. the fights are pretty good! But when i saw the ending i was, wtf? that was that?
This is so child show :D: I had it so bad after that, so that maybe why i write it in that way i did... i never felt so bad after a show...
Sorry guys, but this is how i feel. So please dont be angry! :ano I hate it that way!
If you feel that bad after Avatar, it means you really like it, otherwise, you wouldn't care.

AiSakuraHana
08-10-2008, 01:16 PM
If you feel that bad after Avatar, it means you really like it, otherwise, you wouldn't care.

Really? :D: Never saw it that way!

Aces
08-10-2008, 01:31 PM
Aang blocked his qi; Ozai would be better off dead.

nope.Ozai needed to be taught a lesson."suffering will be" his "teacher".wats the point of learning a lesson when dead?

Noah
08-10-2008, 03:00 PM
nope.Ozai needed to be taught a lesson."suffering will be" his "teacher".wats the point of learning a lesson when dead?

That's the point. In Ozai's mind, death would be better.

Jove
08-10-2008, 03:08 PM
nope.Ozai needed to be taught a lesson."suffering will be" his "teacher".wats the point of learning a lesson when dead?

That's exactly the point I was making. "Better off dead" implies that he's suffering more by remaining alive.


As for AiSakura: the ending is what offended you, huh? If I may play Shawn Spencer for a moment:

:fingers to side of forehead: OH! Rei, Taur, Noah, Mider! I'm getting a strong feeling here! Geicuwghieu! I'm getting... a place filled with animals... a field, a pond, a parade... A ZOO! ZOO, no can't be a zoo, why would someone hate the zoo? Zoo... Zues? No wait, technically that's me, nobody hates me. Ehhhhhh, Zusam River? The Zutons? Sibusiso Zuma? AH: ZUTARA!

I'm sensing Zutara issues.


And congratulations to me. This is my 500th post in this thread. :pirate

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 03:22 PM
That's exactly the point I was making. "Better off dead" implies that he's suffering more by remaining alive.


As for AiSakura: the ending is what offended you, huh? If I may play Shawn Spencer for a moment:

:fingers to side of forehead: OH! Rei, Taur, Noah, Mider! I'm getting a strong feeling here! Geicuwghieu! I'm getting... a place filled with animals... a field, a pond, a parade... A ZOO! ZOO, no can't be a zoo, why would someone hate the zoo? Zoo... Zues? No wait, technically that me, nobody hates me. Ehhhhhh, Zusam River? The Zutons? Sibusiso Zuma? AH: ZUTARA!

I'm sensing Zutara issues.


And congratulations to me. This is my 500th post in this thread. :pirate
:claps
You know, I watched the History Channel, they showed a bunch of ancient Chinese inventions and stuff, apparently, they had oil drills, clocks, and natural gas pipes :iria
Reminded me of the tech of Avatar, wow.

Mider T
08-10-2008, 03:30 PM
History Channel should do a special on Avatar

How many posts does everyone have in this thread exactly?

Jove
08-10-2008, 03:36 PM
History Channel should do a special on Avatar

How many posts does everyone have in this thread exactly?

I was wondering myself if there was a way to check that. I can only say my own, with the icon next to the thread. I'm sure I don't have the most, but I feel satisfied accounting for 5% of such an AVATAR thread.

Mider T
08-10-2008, 03:45 PM
There is, I just never found out how to do it.

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 03:50 PM
History Channel should do a special on Avatar

How many posts does everyone have in this thread exactly?
As of this post, I got 387 posts in here, making me the third highest poster in here :LOS

I was amazed at the stuff they had in ancient China, remember the Library? Where Sokka used the clock thing to find the date of the eclipse? There was an ancient computer that worked similar to that in ancient China. It was an calendar and clock as well, and data could be input to find locations of constellations and moon phases.

Bolt Crank
08-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Random Avatar Ship Generator (http://alisachristopher.deviantart.com/art/Shipping-Wheel-2-94257735)

Caution: May cause epic level brain breakage.

Silvermyst
08-10-2008, 06:44 PM
Random Avatar Ship Generator (http://alisachristopher.deviantart.com/art/Shipping-Wheel-2-94257735)

Caution: May cause epic level brain breakage.

Crack? Lies! BumixKana be canon yo! :pek

Noah
08-10-2008, 06:53 PM
Random Avatar Ship Generator (http://alisachristopher.deviantart.com/art/Shipping-Wheel-2-94257735)

Caution: May cause epic level brain breakage.

Cabbage Merchant x Fat Swamp Guy

Where's the problem?

(145 posts. Snarky quality over quantity, yo)

Jove
08-10-2008, 07:27 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/SinShip.png

Aw

Hell

YEAH

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 07:28 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/SinShip.png

Aw

Hell

YEAH
Hot scissor action

Nizuma Eiji
08-10-2008, 07:30 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/SinShip.png

Aw

Hell

YEAH

/nuts

BRYKE! Make this happen, NAO!!!!!

Mider T
08-10-2008, 07:30 PM
Zuko lovers unite!

I'll steal your horse and show up with my ex!

Jove
08-10-2008, 07:37 PM
I've never wanted to live in the Avatar world more.

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 07:51 PM
I've never wanted to live in the Avatar world more.
Why, it's just on the other side of Middle Earth :gar

BladeofTheChad
08-10-2008, 08:31 PM
I'm sorry, but I still think it would be cooler to have the good guy that doesn't kill, kill, and then has to be able to live with that decision. It's something that is never done honestly.

All the heroes that have ever vowed to kill again, normally don't(Vash in Trigun anime is an exception, and I love how it was handled there) and it just gets to me thatthey never ever ever get pushed into that corner and actually have to do it. I just love fallen heroes more than spritely "OMG GUYS I DID IT MY WAY! crap, but it is Nickelodeon.

Also, even if they didn't kill off Ozai, I at least wanted to feel something from a good guy dying. I wanted something to happen to someone. It was just too much of sugar canes and lollipops, and while I don't not dislike that, I always feel underwhelmed when a story ends that way. seems like a cop out for me.

Other than that, though, I say, BRING ON MORE AVATAR.

I'd like to see an alternate universe Avatar from the time Zuko betrayed Iroh onward where Zuko remains evil. that would be bad ass.

Bolt Crank
08-10-2008, 10:16 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/SinShip.png

Aw

Hell

YEAH

That would actually make an awesome fanfic.

Ryuji Yamazaki
08-10-2008, 10:57 PM
Random Avatar Ship Generator (http://alisachristopher.deviantart.com/art/Shipping-Wheel-2-94257735)

Caution: May cause epic level brain breakage.

...I got Jet/Smellerbee three times. In about ten minutes.

(As well as two canon pairings...)

Ryuji Yamazaki
08-10-2008, 11:04 PM
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7775/shipwheel1mr4.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1690/shipwheel2zn0.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1171/shipwheel3iw4.jpg

ReikaiDemon
08-10-2008, 11:40 PM
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7775/shipwheel1mr4.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1690/shipwheel2zn0.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1171/shipwheel3iw4.jpg
lmao, 66% incest squickinator...
Unless if the players in the troupe that did the play were a family production, 100% incest XD
Incest makes hitman baboon a very angry primate....
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-hitman-monkey-drowns-boy.jpg?w=422&h=495

Does anyone else find femme Aang cute?

BladeofTheChad
08-11-2008, 12:12 AM
I'd be down with Sokka and Katara.

ReikaiDemon
08-11-2008, 12:15 AM
I'd be down with Sokka and Katara.
XD You know what's funny?
During the dark and early days of me knocking and mocking Avatar because I thought it was a weaboo show, I didn't know Sokka and Katara were related, and thought they make a kickass drop dead sexy couple >D

Kaenboshi
08-11-2008, 12:22 AM
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3845/jintarama9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6851/onthikzf2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8949/yuegodasd2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8392/zhaonamu5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/684/chaanggq9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8308/joosangyr8.png (http://imageshack.us)

Jove
08-11-2008, 01:07 PM
http://www.thelastairbendercasting.com

We are considering male actors 12-15 years old, Caucasian or any other ethnicity

He is a young adventurer and should seem like the type of young man who will grow up to be heroic.

ReikaiDemon
08-11-2008, 01:20 PM
http://www.thelastairbendercasting.com

We are considering male actors 12-15 years old, Caucasian or any other ethnicity

He is a young adventurer and should seem like the type of young man who will grow up to be heroic.
Caucasian or other?....
Why is Caucasian a special case?
Why not just say ANY HUMAN?! :argh :mad

BladeofTheChad
08-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Damn, the script sounds like shit.

Jove
08-11-2008, 01:38 PM
I like how Aang will grow up to be heroic. I know that at 12, 8-9 months is a lifetime, but seriously... Aang's not growing up to be anything. The whole point was that he as to be a hero immediately. And pretty much is from the beginning.

Mider T
08-11-2008, 02:49 PM
I'm just glad Zack and Cody are out of the age range.

ReikaiDemon
08-11-2008, 02:52 PM
You know, I will lol so hard if they cast a girl for Aang, and put pink blush on her cheeks

Mider T
08-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Dakota Fanning would make an excellent Azula

And Mark Hamill could be Ozai:awesome

ReikaiDemon
08-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Dakota Fanning would make an excellent Azula

And Mark Hamill could be Ozai:awesome
Joker Ozai win :LOS

BladeofTheChad
08-11-2008, 06:48 PM
Dakota Fanning would make an excellent Azula

And Mark Hamill could be Ozai:awesome

Heath Ledger should be Ozai.

Jove
08-11-2008, 09:10 PM
Heath Ledger should be Ozai.

Yeah, and Bernie Mac could be... oh right. Nobody for him to play in the Avatar universe. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

Mider T
08-11-2008, 09:34 PM
Issac Hayes should do the music:blinditachi

Sci-Fi
08-11-2008, 09:40 PM
Issac Hayes should do the music:blinditachi

Isaac Hayes passed away Sunday

Jove
08-11-2008, 09:43 PM
Isaac Hayes passed away Sunday

What???!!!!

I hope I get over this before Sozin's Comet airs! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/ZaruYamato.png

Mider T
08-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Isaac Hayes passed away Sunday

You gotta learn to keep up:P

Kek
08-12-2008, 12:01 AM
Live. Action. avatar? :twitch

Mider T
08-12-2008, 12:06 AM
Trilogy:zaru

Kek
08-12-2008, 12:11 AM
It will not make it off the ground. Or even to the assembly line.

Mider T
08-12-2008, 12:17 AM
M. Night Shmaladingdong:zaru

BladeofTheChad
08-12-2008, 12:47 AM
The Happening was shit.

Superstarseven
08-12-2008, 03:35 AM
It will not make it off the ground. Or even to the assembly line.

Oh it's definitely happening man.
Debating it's potential failure or success is a different matter entirely but it seems to be beyond the stage of development hell. Casting is going on right now and M Night. discussed the shooting locations which of course will take place in Philly, Greenland and possibly Vietnam.
I think The Last Airbender's future as a feature length film is certainly looking much better than the proposed films for Johnny Bravo and Samurai Jack.
Of course anything can happen 5 months from now but so far it hasn't hit a snag.

Hellion
08-12-2008, 04:24 AM
I am almost done with book one can't wait for book 2 :ohpek

Jove
08-12-2008, 05:02 AM
I am almost done with book one can't wait for book 2 :ohpek

You're in for a real treat. Book 2 is very fluid and continuous, an exceptional feat of artistry all the way through. There's no decline; the first and twentieth episodes are both equally thrilling.

ReikaiDemon
08-12-2008, 05:15 AM
lol, what's up with all the dead celeb jokes? :zaru

Also, make Aang black :zaru

Megaharrison
08-12-2008, 05:07 PM
I don't feel like checking pages and pages of threads to see if this has been mentioned before, but apparently the Nick website has revealed the fate of Azula after the finale:

She was sent to an insane asylum indefinitely

Source (http://www.nick.com/shows/avatar/index.jhtml)

ReikaiDemon
08-12-2008, 05:14 PM
I don't feel like checking pages and pages of threads to see if this has been mentioned before, but apparently the Nick website has revealed the fate of Azula after the finale:

She was sent to an insane asylum indefinitely

Source (http://www.nick.com/shows/avatar/index.jhtml)
Momo is a big fan of the Melonlord's delicious melon head -- it's sweet and juicy.
lmao :zaru

Kek
08-12-2008, 05:19 PM
I don't feel like checking pages and pages of threads to see if this has been mentioned before, but apparently the Nick website has revealed the fate of Azula after the finale:

She was sent to an insane asylum indefinitely

Source (http://www.nick.com/shows/avatar/index.jhtml)

Not surprising. :noworry

Hellion
08-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Ang reminds me of my little cousin. He could be the black avatar :laugh

Kek
08-12-2008, 05:28 PM
You mean, like, bald? :LOS

Hellion
08-12-2008, 05:58 PM
WeWell he has the same shaped head and he also has generic black guy haircut, so yeah he is kinda bald

Kek
08-12-2008, 06:04 PM
With tattoos? :LOS

ReikaiDemon
08-12-2008, 06:21 PM
Black Aang is the one and only truth :LOS

Jove
08-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Flash Topic:

Best Avatar Uniform(s)

Honorable Mention: Fire Sages Uniform
Honorable Mention - Terra Team

10. Fire Nation - Skull Masks
9. Yu Yen Archers
8. Appa's Armor
7. Standard Earth Kingdom Uniform
6. Sokka's Swordtraining Uniform
5. Fire Nation School Uniform
4. Kyoshi Warriors
3. Northern Water Tribe
2. Phoenix King Ozai
1. Dai Li

Mider T
08-13-2008, 03:34 AM
Are you kidding? Phoenix King Ozai's may have been elaborate but it was nowhere near good.

Jove
08-13-2008, 04:01 AM
Are you kidding? Phoenix King Ozai's may have been elaborate but it was nowhere near good.

:pek

I now doubt that you even like Hawky, you troll you.

Mider T
08-13-2008, 04:10 AM
Hawky's still badass, but a 3 pound "crown"/birdnest on the head...yeah not really my dig:lmao

Though I like all of the other ones listed.

Jove
08-13-2008, 04:39 AM
Bah...

That shoulderblade-piece was the difference between "Hello, protagonist; they say I'm the final villain" and "look at my fucking 10 inch soul patch flap in the suffocating breeze as I single-handedly decimate an entire goddamn countryside on the perch of a war balloon"

Altron
08-13-2008, 05:43 AM
Dai-Li #1 uniform? Meh i like the firebenders uniform.

Superstarseven
08-13-2008, 03:47 PM
It was because of Avatar that I got into and bought a bunch of public domain Kung Fu B-movies on DVD (2 for $1). Anyway I would freak out whenever I would perceive something that was remotely similar to the show. Like the time the hero of one film lifted his hand and used his Qi to suck the leaves out of a tree and made them stick like glue to the villains face which would take his skin off if he attempted to take them off.

How was that similar to anything on Avatar? It kinda, sorta, maybe looked like Airbending to me. You have to see it for yourself. Anyhow to get on topic I would see the costumes that everyone wore in these movies and go nuts if some of it looked like the Earth Kingdom's guards, the Dai Li or even the commoners. In addition with the Avatar art book I'd also like the see the original reference photos of the wardrobe that Bryan and the other character designers chose for the world of Avatar to wear. If anyone knows that work that Trisha Biggar did on the Star Wars prequels then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

Kek
08-13-2008, 04:00 PM
I prefer the earthbender uniform.

farihstar
08-13-2008, 04:02 PM
I think the outfit Sokka wore throughout Book 3 like at the invasion and stuff was the best.

ReikaiDemon
08-13-2008, 04:10 PM
It was because of Avatar that I got into and bought a bunch of public domain Kung Fu B-movies on DVD (2 for $1). Anyway I would freak out whenever I would perceive something that was remotely similar to the show. Like the time the hero of one film lifted his hand and used his Qi to suck the leaves out of a tree and made them stick like glue to the villains face which would take his skin off if he attempted to take them off.

How was that similar to anything on Avatar? It kinda, sorta, maybe looked like Airbending to me. You have to see it for yourself. Anyhow to get on topic I would see the costumes that everyone wore in these movies and go nuts if some of it looked like the Earth Kingdom's guards, the Dai Li or even the commoners. In addition with the Avatar art book I'd also like the see the original reference photos of the wardrobe that Bryan and the other character designers chose for the world of Avatar to wear. If anyone knows that work that Trisha Biggar did on the Star Wars prequels then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Pretty much, every power you see in Avatar, it's in Chinese entertainment, especially wuxia, which is basically our live action anime. Old, and new shows have martial arts superpowers like Avatar, I've always regarded Avatar as an attempt to bring those elements to western minds as one of the reasons for it's existence.

You know, the Dai Li's uniforms look a lot like the policemen outfits during the Qing Dynasty's government agents. They were also called Dai Li.

KillerFan
08-13-2008, 04:36 PM
i always did too. fans can't really expect the creators to have gotten the inspiration out of their butts. they collected all sorts of cool ideas and made it into one of the greatest western animated shows

masterriku
08-13-2008, 09:01 PM
yes soon we shall be at ba-sing-se great wall and we shall tear it down.

I wonder if anyone will able to translate that gibberish up there^^

Superstarseven
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Pretty much, every power you see in Avatar, it's in Chinese entertainment, especially wuxia, which is basically our live action anime. Old, and new shows have martial arts superpowers like Avatar, I've always regarded Avatar as an attempt to bring those elements to western minds as one of the reasons for it's existence.

You know, the Dai Li's uniforms look a lot like the policemen outfits during the Qing Dynasty's government agents. They were also called Dai Li.

Oh yeah Avatar has given me a greater respect for Asian (especially Chinese) culture and history. The staff definitely put so much hard work that it gets me insane when I some someone lament about Zutara not happening and bashing Mike and Bryan about something as trivial as that. Just the idea of having a martial arts choreographer is impressive enough. You would usually reserve that for an animated film, not for something that's airing on the same network that made it's name with Ren & Stimpy.

Just goes to show how far 2 guys are willing to go to make the moves in the show look authentic. For comparison, the Gung Fu/wushu moves used on Nicktoon's original show 3 Delivery were copied out of various martial arts films.
The original criticism was that Avatar was made to cash in on the "Anime craze" which is hilarious looking back on it. Was there ever an Anime craze in America?
Pokemon was huge I remember but between that and the Adult Swim Saturday block I don't seem to recall everyone raving about Japanese cartoons.

My introduction to Anime was a kid in my class raving about DBZ, true fanboy. This was back in '94-95. After that was the time I took a dude's earphones, listened to what he was playing and promptly asked him what the hell it was. "Japanese pop", he says! I wasted no time in labeling him as weird. You'll never catch me listening to music I can't understand. This was back in '96. Cut to 11 years later and I'm getting frustrated as to why I can't get Ikimono Gakari's Bluebird to properly sync with my Zune's J-pop playlist.

People change right?

Vault
08-13-2008, 11:00 PM
any word of a spinoff?

Mider T
08-13-2008, 11:17 PM
Maybe, but it won't continue with Aang's adventures.

KillerFan
08-13-2008, 11:30 PM
thank goodness. i'm for a new season with a new avatar cast. aang's complete :ohpek

ReikaiDemon
08-13-2008, 11:38 PM
Oh yeah Avatar has given me a greater respect for Asian (especially Chinese) culture and history. The staff definitely put so much hard work that it gets me insane when I some someone lament about Zutara not happening and bashing Mike and Bryan about something as trivial as that. Just the idea of having a martial arts choreographer is impressive enough. You would usually reserve that for an animated film, not for something that's airing on the same network that made it's name with Ren & Stimpy.

Just goes to show how far 2 guys are willing to go to make the moves in the show look authentic. For comparison, the Gung Fu/wushu moves used on Nicktoon's original show 3 Delivery were copied out of various martial arts films.
The original criticism was that Avatar was made to cash in on the "Anime craze" which is hilarious looking back on it. Was there ever an Anime craze in America?
Pokemon was huge I remember but between that and the Adult Swim Saturday block I don't seem to recall everyone raving about Japanese cartoons.

My introduction to Anime was a kid in my class raving about DBZ, true fanboy. This was back in '94-95. After that was the time I took a dude's earphones, listened to what he was playing and promptly asked him what the hell it was. "Japanese pop", he says! I wasted no time in labeling him as weird. You'll never catch me listening to music I can't understand. This was back in '96. Cut to 11 years later and I'm getting frustrated as to why I can't get Ikimono Gakari's Bluebird to properly sync with my Zune's J-pop playlist.

People change right?
The way I see it, America just has a casual, slightly negligent interest in anime. Though, it makes sense, as mostly anything that is foreign aside from music really doesn't make ripples in the American interest. Even Kung Fu movies, which back then saw large frequency in imports with dubs, rarely makes it in today's releases. Most Kung Fu movies today are specifically made for American audiences.It's funny how most of the world sees releases of American films, but in America itself, foreign films are relegated to very scant releases. That's really sad, countries everywhere have wonderful movies. It irks me that they force directors and produces of films such as The Ring, and The Grudge, heck, all Japanese horror in general, to remake the movie with American actors, rather than to show it in it's original form with subtitles, or dubbing. I suppose many Americans just plain don't care about foreign entertainment, and it wouldn't make much money in a single showing. Such a pity, considering right now, we got lots of crap coming in monthly, like those "geniuses" who make those awful parody movies(Newest one is Disaster Movie *pukes*), always manage to make it huge, and insures another sequel.

But, I don't really think it's a craze in anime that prompts shoddy imitators, kids like the action of anime, the art is nice too, cute, but with a fusion of realism. Aaron McGruder probably said it best when he said that anime is animation that conveys a feeling of live action. But, the imitators only focus on the stereotypical stylings of anime, they don't pay any particular care to plot, story, or characterization. Then, we have Avatar, which doesn't copy anime, but truly understands it's elements, and composes it seemlessly. I believe they just love the style, and elements, and they're not trying to capitalize off it's stylings. They impart the influences they love, with plenty of culture, a good story, and characters that actually feel real at heart, and positive messages and morals to convey to impressionable people, and Avatar is just so good, people will love it, and take those morals to heart. Bryke did a real good job at making a series that all ages can enjoy, without being mindless pandering and empty mintues, I believe it's a truly timeless show.

Still, there's never been an anime craze, but there's plenty of anime influence in America for decades. Adults today still fondly remember expensive VHS tape fansubs, Astro Boy, Speed Racer,Robotech/Macross Ranma, the earliest adaptation of Miyazaki's work,Akira and some bits of Transformers. It's peppered here and there in American culture, never huge, or big,but it definately gets attention, from time to time, we had live action adaptation movies of anime such as Guyver, Fist of the North Star, Street Fighter(well, those are video games if you wanna get technical)and even now, we're gonna get live action DBZ, and Cowboy Bebop(CB is definately gonna be better).

Wow, we sure are in an adaptation craze, eh? So many comic book, and cartoon adaptaion films lately. I didn't even expect Avatar to get one until WAY after it was over.

Superstarseven
08-14-2008, 01:56 AM
All the Avatar film has to be is entertaining and engaging. We're not going to get a film that is probably going to be preserved in the Library of Congress and I'm fine with that.
If I can leave the theater with a good feeling then I'll be OK. I don't want to have to defend it scene by scene getting absolutely nowhere with critics. There's a great opportunity here to make a really good fantasy film with fantastic material to mine from.
M. Night should be able to take the best of Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Various anime and Hong Kong cinema to create gold. So yeah it could either be really successful or be doomed to failure. We'll just have to wait and see.

Kek
08-14-2008, 02:38 AM
Neo Avatar anyone? :awesome

Jove
08-14-2008, 03:13 AM
All the Avatar film has to be is entertaining and engaging. We're not going to get a film that is probably going to be preserved in the Library of Congress and I'm fine with that.
If I can leave the theater with a good feeling then I'll be OK. I don't want to have to defend it scene by scene getting absolutely nowhere with critics. There's a great opportunity here to make a really good fantasy film with fantastic material to mine from.
M. Night should be able to take the best of Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Various anime and Hong Kong cinema to create gold. So yeah it could either be really successful or be doomed to failure. We'll just have to wait and see.

Again, he should be able to. But I've recently examined some of his recent work (some of it against my will, I hate movies), and his shot selection is baffling at times. I'm sure he'll be able to adapt the story, but the direction might be an issue. Which is odd for me to say, because my initial reactions were the exact opposite.

But you could also say that his direction and writing has been incongruous on some of these projects, and the Avatar films, with direct source material, could force him to simplify things.

On the subject of the South-East Asian influence, the key is that they integrate the influence and culture, and don't blindly deify it. Too many Occidentals go bananas over such things, like someone who discovers something like Buddhism and instantly disregards every Western value they''ve ever learned (taken to it's extreme with those J-pop wackos). Bryke never fell victim to that kind of transparency.

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 04:41 AM
That ship wheel broke something inside me.

It really did.

I actually have no idea of what M Night has done. What good and bad movies are to his name?

Noah
08-14-2008, 08:21 AM
Again, he should be able to. But I've recently examined some of his recent work (some of it against my will, I hate movies), and his shot selection is baffling at times. I'm sure he'll be able to adapt the story, but the direction might be an issue. Which is odd for me to say, because my initial reactions were the exact opposite.

...how the hell can you hate movies? That's a pretty broad range of things to hate.

Anyway, M. Night is an awful director who's talents are still being based on The Sixth Sense. Everything he's made since then (with the exception of the first 50 minutes of Signs) has been absolute garbage. I really have no faith in his ability to adapt Avatar, but the fact that he has Mike and Bryan doing a lot of the work gives it some hope. If we're lucky, he isn't lying and he and his kids really are huge fans of it and that may influence him not to create such shitty camera work, ridiculous plot twist elements and preposterous foreshadows.

Ryuji Yamazaki
08-14-2008, 08:25 AM
You know there are spares to be paired, right?

http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/soright2.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_goodgrowing.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukoheadache.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_bluetea.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukosex.jpg

'Nuff Said.

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 08:33 AM
...how the hell can you hate movies? That's a pretty broad range of things to hate.

Anyway, M. Night is an awful director who's talents are still being based on The Sixth Sense. Everything he's made since then (with the exception of the first 50 minutes of Signs) has been absolute garbage. I really have no faith in his ability to adapt Avatar, but the fact that he has Mike and Bryan doing a lot of the work gives it some hope. If we're lucky, he isn't lying and he and his kids really are huge fans of it and that may influence him not to create such shitty camera work, ridiculous plot twist elements and preposterous foreshadows.

I wonder how much of a hand Mike and Bryan will have in this? Hopefully they can steer him in the right direction.

Mr. Obvious
08-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Hopefully the movie turns out good! And has a great katara shower scene =D

blackshikamaru
08-14-2008, 04:49 PM
And hopefully she isn't played by a 14 year old girl!

Mider T
08-14-2008, 05:37 PM
You know there are spares to be paired, right?

http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/soright2.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_goodgrowing.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukoheadache.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_bluetea.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukosex.jpg

'Nuff Said.

Hehehe Good thing the only canon is either Sokka/Toph or Sokka/harem

heh :eyetwitch

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 05:40 PM
You know there are spares to be paired, right?

http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/soright2.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_goodgrowing.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukoheadache.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_bluetea.jpg
http://thefacelessevil.net/joe/avatar/irohtoph_zukosex.jpg

'Nuff Said.
I died :D

Noah
08-14-2008, 05:59 PM
And hopefully she isn't played by a 14 year old girl!

...explain to me how that creates a problem. :LOS

Kek
08-14-2008, 06:07 PM
http://www.yatpundit.com/random_pics/pedobear_seal.jpg

Jove
08-14-2008, 06:09 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/AvatarThreadCelebrate.png

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 06:11 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/AvatarThreadCelebrate.png
We win the gold medal for pageness :D

._. I'm sad now.

masterriku
08-14-2008, 06:22 PM
So jove was right all along I kinda doubt it when he first told me but go us to bad 1k in improable.

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 06:28 PM
So jove was right all along I kinda doubt it when he first told me but go us to bad 1k in improable.
We can have trivia contests and stuff :LOS

:(

Mider T
08-14-2008, 06:39 PM
The important thing comes up in just over 10 posts.

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 06:44 PM
Some of us have different forum settings you know, so it's not 500 pages for everyone ._.

Mider T
08-14-2008, 06:53 PM
But it'll be 10,000 posts for everyone:hehee

What page are you Reikai?

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 07:10 PM
But it'll be 10,000 posts for everyone:hehee

What page are you Reikai?
250 pages ._.

Nizuma Eiji
08-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Well it's 500 for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 08:47 PM
Five hundred is what I be seeing.

This thread gets the Melon Lord seal of approval. :iria

Noah
08-14-2008, 09:34 PM
We can have trivia contests and stuff :LOS

:(

....why teh sads? Is good idea!

Slightly more creative than the TTGL-Rewatch-Every-Three-Weeks-Rewatch-Event, anyway. :zaru

Theoretical battle discussions?! AU discussions?! Movesets for characters in a fighting game discussions?! Plenty of things to play with! :awesome

also: yay500z

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 09:36 PM
We should make an AVATAR Avatar game. We'd be the best for it. :hmpf

MasterChick
08-14-2008, 09:42 PM
500 pages :wOOt :dance

Linkdarkside
08-14-2008, 11:01 PM
so this tread reached 500 pages

Yeah, and Bernie Mac could be... oh right. Nobody for him to play in the Avatar universe. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.pnghe died.

Kaenboshi
08-14-2008, 11:08 PM
500 pages finally. :spaz

So, now what?

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 11:12 PM
That was the point, LinkDark. Everyone was dead.

And the point is that we are all incredibly AVATAR because we all watched Avatar. Obviously. :del

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 11:14 PM
....why teh sads? Is good idea!

Slightly more creative than the TTGL-Rewatch-Every-Three-Weeks-Rewatch-Event, anyway. :zaru

Theoretical battle discussions?! AU discussions?! Movesets for characters in a fighting game discussions?! Plenty of things to play with! :awesome

also: yay500z
I'm gonna go blind ._.

Noah
08-14-2008, 11:16 PM
What? Can't stand my AVATAR typing abilities? :zaru


EDIT: FUCK! Why did I respond to that? Now I shall only be known as Avatar Damage Cap! :rant

Taurus Versant
08-14-2008, 11:17 PM
10,000 posts of the AVATAR Avatar thread descend upon you. :high

ReikaiDemon
08-14-2008, 11:18 PM
Seriously, I'm going physically blind .____.