Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[Seto Kaiba]

What a selfish bunch of morons. Not morons because they enjoy the idea of Zutara but planning to embarrass creators of something they were entertained by for 4 years...for free! It's not a surprise when they start writing essays on Kataang happening "just because (http://redgyl.deviantart.com/art/He-Didn-t-Love-Her-92396811)".

As stated by the creators themselves, Kataang was within the DNA of the series. I just wonder how one could not to have seen the development of Aang and Katara's relationship. It was like being slammed in our faces time and time again. They made it obvious that was the signature pairing of the series. As for that essay it just skews and warps so many things it's not even funny, and just a bunch of nonsense ramblings...I guess I'll take it apart later. I just want to say, if one could see Zutara how could they not see Kataang? What tinted windows would one have to watch the series to that?

I'm debating with dave-shan, he said aang never matured because he never had to face reality and because he ran away from learning the true meaning of fire bending in FBM, ran away from the thought of that katara may not love him in EIP,tried to run away from finding a firebending teacher in WAT, and tried to run away from the thought of killing ozai.

He had to face the reality that he was the Avatar at a younger age than the previous ones and with that, the pressure that comes with it.

He had to face the reality that his people were killed off and he was the last of his kind.

He had to face the reality that the world's fate was on his shoulders.

He had to face the reality that he could possibly end up having to take a life and possibly losing his to save the world.

He had to face the reality that he couldn't live as a carefree person like he wanted to.

[Michael Jacksőn]

I'm debating with dave-shan, he said aang never matured because he never had to face reality and because he ran away from learning the true meaning of fire bending in FBM, ran away from the thought of that katara may not love him in EIP,tried to run away from finding a firebending teacher in WAT, and tried to run away from the thought of killing ozai.

He's a fuckin idiot.

True meaning of Firebending IS what he learned, they said it in the show. :facepalm

He DID give up Katara when he mastered the Avatar State. :facepalm

He DID find a fuckin teacher, and in that same episode too. :facepalm

He didnt HAVE to kill Ozai. It's not like to mature, you have to kill someone. :facepalm

[Superstarseven]

Bottom line people is that Zuko should have ended up with Katara because...they look good?
I argued with someone that if Zuko were short and dumpy then Zutara wouldn't exist. She countered with Zutara isn't that superficial.
I'm sure that if Aang were closer to 15 and and didn't act like a kid people would see Kataang a little more clearly.

[ReikaiDemon]

Everyone may hate all these Zutara peeps, but, I feel sorry for them, they can't enjoy the series, it's a sad disease. That's why I'm asking all of you to send me a dollar, and the address of a known Zutara zealot, so I can tape their eyelids open, and force them to watch Zuko/Mai scenes :zaru

Seriously though, it's pointless to worry about this, when there are so much more worse things in the world to worry about, such as China's oppression
of Tibet and human rights in general, famine all over the world, and the energy crisis. But, what do we know? We just like good cartoons.

Zuko does love Katara, but as the sister he never had, in fact, Zuko found a better family of siblings (and one spiritual great-grandpa...) in the Gaang than Ozai's.

[The Cheat]

I've actually seen a lot of decent zutara fans.

[ReikaiDemon]

I've actually seen a lot of decent zutara fans.
Yes, but what really cheeses us are Zutara ZEALOTS

[Seto Kaiba]

Bottom line people is that Zuko should have ended up with Katara because...they look good?

Well to my knowledge Zuko and Katara are usually considered the best looking male and female characters in the series respectively.

I argued with someone that if Zuko were short and dumpy then Zutara wouldn't exist. She countered with Zutara isn't that superficial.

I think I know how Zutara came about. It was during the water scroll episode I believe. Zuko was taunting Katara with her mother's necklace and that somehow got interpreted as romantic tension...I think it did have a lot to do with physical appearances. I mean, imagine if Zuko was like you said short and dumpy and did the same thing. Most people would probably find it creepy.

I'm sure that if Aang were closer to 15 and and didn't act like a kid people would see Kataang a little more clearly.

Well, Zuko can and has shown that he can be just as childish if not more so than Aang. Aang is very mature for his age, and maybe for any age in general. Just because he has a normally bright demeanor and is outgoing doesn't equate to him being childish.

I still can't believe people are conspiring to harass Mike and Bryan over this...the things I've read ever since the book was released and the final was aired are just astounding...
About the video games, I heard the first one was pretty bad...and the second one was an improvement but nothing remarkable. They haven't made a game covering the events of Season 3 to my knowledge. What ideas do you have on what the 3rd game should be like (ex: title of game, battle system, characters, game modes, etc.)?

[ReikaiDemon]

Well to my knowledge Zuko and Katara are usually considered the best looking male and female characters in the series respectively.



I think I know how Zutara came about. It was during the water scroll episode I believe. Zuko was taunting Katara with her mother's necklace and that somehow got interpreted as romantic tension...I think it did have a lot to do with physical appearances. I mean, imagine if Zuko was like you said short and dumpy and did the same thing. Most people would probably find it creepy.



Well, Zuko can and has shown that he can be just as childish if not more so than Aang. Aang is very mature for his age, and maybe for any age in general. Just because he has a normally bright demeanor and is outgoing doesn't equate to him being childish.

I still can't believe people are conspiring to harass Mike and Bryan over this...the things I've read ever since the book was released and the final was aired are just astounding...
About the video games, I heard the first one was pretty bad...and the second one was an improvement but nothing remarkable. They haven't made a game covering the events of Season 3 to my knowledge. What ideas do you have on what the 3rd game should be like (ex: title of game, battle system, characters, game modes, etc.)?
He's just too mature to be 112 :LOS
Really, they shouldn't be talking, I'd like to see them start their own successful animation, and see where that goes. I bet it'll be full of Mary Sues, and Gary Stus.And even then, they should just respect Mike and Brian for conceiving well written, well animated, culturally diverse intellectual property, which goes against all the preconceived notions of the saddening mindset of the Animation Age Ghetto.

I'd really hate to see another licensed Avatar game, unless if it was actually good. But, if it's bad, they all I can say is that they dropped the ball, and are only exploiting huge fans of the series with the name and image of the series.

[Superrazien]

Im sorry to Zutara fans, but are you stupid? Have you even seen a Shonen anime which Avatar was clearly inspired by? The main character gets the main girl if its hinted he likes her. Zuko also had a GF of his own.

I don't what made people think Zutara could even happen. It was so clear that it would never happen, and never should as it would be the most random thing to happen in the series, it would cheapened its value.

[The Cheat]

I wouldn't be so pissed about people not liking the finale if they came up with decent reasons, and I'm not talking about the zutara zealots either.

[Jf_kyori_2k4]

Zutara lol.... cant believe people would heckle the creator for stupid paring debates.

[Gunners]

Zuko and Katara seems more like a brother sister relationship anyway. I suppose you can't please everyone.

[sharinganrose5]

Zuko's aready taken by that girl may (?)

[ReikaiDemon]

I don't know why, but Yuen Wah from Kung Fu Hustle seems like he'd be good as Ozai, I don't know maybe Takeshi Kitano .

So who's better on this film being push and advertised like no other, and who's saying its gonna fly by unnoticed?Yuen Wah XD He was hilarious in Hustle, I'd say he'd make a pretty good Ozai, he certainly can look sinister.

I'd say teach Andy Serkis Hun Gar, and he'd be Bumi :LOS

[Seto Kaiba]

I wouldn't be so pissed about people not liking the finale if they came up with decent reasons, and I'm not talking about the zutara zealots either.

Well, I can understand with having people dissatisfied with the finale or some aspects of it. The issue with Ursa for example, that was a major one. There's supposed to be spinoff episodes, so that issue may be resolved in the future. There's some understandable things like the spiritbending which was never mentioned before, what happened to Azula, among other things. Other than that, the most I hear are from Zutara fans fuming that the pairing didn't happen, and because of that, the entire finale was spoiled for them...which is pretty ridiculous.

[Jf_kyori_2k4]

Zuko's aready taken by that girl may (?)

exactly i kind of understand if they were both single but Zuko has a deep relationship with may even when they were enimies. let it go its jus tv

[ReikaiDemon]

Well, I can understand with having people dissatisfied with the finale or some aspects of it. The issue with Ursa for example, that was a major one. There's supposed to be spinoff episodes, so that issue may be resolved in the future. There's some understandable things like the spiritbending which was never mentioned before, what happened to Azula, among other things. Other than that, the most I hear are from Zutara fans fuming that the pairing didn't happen, and because of that, the entire finale was spoiled for them...which is pretty ridiculous.
I'd say it was mentioned LONG AGO. Ty Lee for example, can temporarily manipulate the flow of chi with strikes to meridians with her death touches. Aang used a juiced up version of it.

[Mrs.Lovett]

Zutara lol.... cant believe people would heckle the creator for stupid paring debates.


lol
I was a Zutarian. But I still enjoyed the finale very much. It doesn't matter which ship won, it was all about the AVATARNESS

[Michael Jacksőn]

lol Zutara :LOS

[hcheng02]

Yuen Wah XD He was hilarious in Hustle, I'd say he'd make a pretty good Ozai, he certainly can look sinister.

I'd say teach Andy Serkis Hun Gar, and he'd be Bumi :LOS

Yuen Wah was a pretty good villain in Sam Hui's Swordsman (Xiao Ao Jiang Hu) but he's been playing mostly good guy roles lately. And I don't think he speaks English that well either.

Finally saw the ending (yes I'm behind), and it was great. I'm a sucker for happy endings and everything came out OK. And they definitely left room for the spin-off which should be Zuko going off to search for his mom. Zuko is probably the most popular character in the show if I remember correctly. Azula losing it was my favorite part, right next to Aang going avatar. I'm surprised that Katara was able to hold Azula so easily considering how Azula is charged up by the comet.

Anyway, its nice to be at a place that enjoys the series. If this was Naruto and we were in the Library we would be getting bullshit like "Aang learning spirit bending and going avatar is plot no jutsu!!!" or "Azula fight was gay because Katara ended the fight!" :facepalm

[ReikaiDemon]

lol Zutara :LOS
lol, Zutara fans who think they're better than Mike and Brian :LOS

[Seto Kaiba]

Anyway, its nice to be at a place that enjoys the series. If this was Naruto and we were in the Library we would be getting bullshit like "Aang learning spirit bending and going avatar is plot no jutsu!!!" or "Azula fight was gay because Katara ended the fight!"

Well, Naruto's writing has been kinda...subpar...

[ReikaiDemon]

Yuen Wah was a pretty good villain in Sam Hui's Swordsman (Xiao Ao Jiang Hu) but he's been playing mostly good guy roles lately. And I don't think he speaks English that well either.

Finally saw the ending (yes I'm behind), and it was great. I'm a sucker for happy endings and everything came out OK. And they definitely left room for the spin-off which should be Zuko going off to search for his mom. Zuko is probably the most popular character in the show if I remember correctly. Azula losing it was my favorite part, right next to Aang going avatar. I'm surprised that Katara was able to hold Azula so easily considering how Azula is charged up by the comet.

Anyway, its nice to be at a place that enjoys the series. If this was Naruto and we were in the Library we would be getting bullshit like "Aang learning spirit bending and going avatar is plot no jutsu!!!" or "Azula fight was gay because Katara ended the fight!" :facepalm
Hey Cheng! :iria They can always fix that with good dubbing XD :zaru

Azula was weakening long before the comet, she hasn't slept at all, thus, baggy eyes, plus the way she was fighting was wasteful after her lightning bolts. So, Azula pretty much run down her chi, and concentration a lot. Plus I doubt she ate very much, prior to the comet, because her paranoia prevented her from eating to keep her chi up, for fear of being poisoned.

[Superstarseven]

They certainly do have another licensed Avatar video game.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/object/142/14244871/into_the_inferno_wiiUK_boxart_160w.jpg

This will of course follow the events of the third book.
The DS version of the game will instead have super-deformed character designs.

[Jove]

Well, Naruto's writing has been kinda...subpar...

I don't know, Hachibi freestyling on Taka while he slaps them around is pretty awesome.


I'm not ready to use AVATAR to describe Naruto, Bleach, etc. It's too soon.

[ReikaiDemon]

They certainly do have another licensed Avatar video game.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/object/142/14244871/into_the_inferno_wiiUK_boxart_160w.jpg

This will of course follow the events of the third book.
The DS version of the game will instead have super-deformed character designs.
Well, at least the cover looks nice :D: Though, might be the only good thing going for it...That, and if someone finds a security hole to hack through it like Zelda...

They should've waited for motion plus :D:

[Superstarseven]

Here's a trailer and some gameplay for Into The Inferno
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50329_avatar-into-the-inferno-trailer-thq_videogames

Here's the box cover art for the DS version
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/45117_ATLA_ITI_NDS_09512_UKP_FKE.jpg

[Jove]

Azula was weakening long before the comet, she hasn't slept at all, thus, baggy eyes, plus the way she was fighting was wasteful after her lightning bolts. So, Azula pretty much run down her chi, and concentration a lot. Plus I doubt she ate very much, prior to the comet, because her paranoia prevented her from eating to keep her chi up, for fear of being poisoned.

On the subject of that, I've seen people say they were disappointed that Zuko fought a weakened and strained Azula who was in the midst of a breakdown. I guess they wanted an equal fight, but who had the psychological advantage every other single time they fought? And not just an small advantage; it was a resounding, massive difference. It was nice to see Zuko as the confident, casually able fighter.

[ReikaiDemon]

On the subject of that, I've seen people say they were disappointed that Zuko fought a weakened and strained Azula who was in the midst of a breakdown. I guess they wanted an equal fight, but who had the psychological advantage every other single time they fought? And not just an small advantage; it was a resounding, massive difference. It was nice to see Zuko as the confident, casually able fighter.
Plus, counting the fact that he has only ever beaten Azula once before the last Agni Kai. :D

[Mrs.Lovett]

^I agree. That was my favorite battle and it was nice to see Zuko at an advantage for a change. It shows that ultimately, Zuko is the right one and has thus found inner peace and stability in his ways, and that Azula was always walking on thin ice with the way she was going.

[Noah]

I'm not ready to use AVATAR to describe Naruto, Bleach, etc. It's too soon.

Or is it because they're just....not?

Anyway, in response to video game discussion:

I nominate a fighting game based with an engine similar to the DBZ Tenkaichi/Burst Limit games, or the PS3 Naruto game. Koh or past avatars could be the super secret SNK-style final boss.

[Jove]

Plus, counting the fact that he has only ever beaten Azula once before the last Agni Kai. :D

And they had done an excellent job in the previous episodes showing Zuko's growing strength since Firebending Masters. The fight on the gondola in Boiling Rock, the fight on the airships in Southern Raiders where he basically went straight through Azula's fireblasts... he was fighting her evenly, at worst, when she was still sane.

[ReikaiDemon]

Or is it because they're just....not?

Anyway, in response to video game discussion:

I nominate a fighting game based with an engine similar to the DBZ Tenkaichi/Burst Limit games, or the PS3 Naruto game. Koh or past avatars could be the super secret SNK-style final boss.
Or maybe an AVATAR Avatar MMORPG? :sag

[hcheng02]

Well, Naruto's writing has been kinda...subpar...

Although I agree Naruto's writing isn't as good as Avatar's its nowhere as bad as people in the Library make it out to be. Its more because people analyze it to the last detail and complain incessantly about the smallest damn things. You would get threads that say things like "Zuko logically couldn't have blocked the lightning because lightning is so fast that he would have no time to react!" or something like that. Things like Aang learning spirit bending with a touch from a giant lion-turtle or able to go Avatar from bumping into a rock are obvious deux ex machinas, but most Avatar fans just let it slide because it works into the story. But god forbid if Kishi pulls anything like that without the Library lynching him.

Hey Cheng! :iria They can always fix that with good dubbing XD :zaru

Azula was weakening long before the comet, she hasn't slept at all, thus, baggy eyes, plus the way she was fighting was wasteful after her lightning bolts. So, Azula pretty much run down her chi, and concentration a lot. Plus I doubt she ate very much, prior to the comet, because her paranoia prevented her from eating to keep her chi up, for fear of being poisoned.

Hey Reikai :awesome
Ughg dubbing for Chinese never works for me. :D: I think its because since I understand Chinese I always compare the dubbing to the actual original dialogue in my head and it distracts me.

Azula did eat, since you see her eat some cherries. But her paranoia was definitely getting the best of her. Seeing and hearing people who are not there is not a good sign. And she was pretty much going berserk at Zuko as opposed to mindfucking him as she usually did. She was physically quite capable, but her psychological edge was gone. That said though, how was she able to bend lightning? Shouldn't it have blown up in her face because of her inner turmoil or something?

I wonder if she'll appear in the Zuko spin-off though. I'd like to see more crazy Azula.

[Jove]

Although I agree Naruto's writing isn't as good as Avatar's its nowhere as bad as people in the Library make it out to be. Its more because people analyze it to the last detail and complain incessantly about the smallest damn things. You would get threads that say things like "Zuko logically couldn't have blocked the lightning because lightning is so fast that he would have no time to react!" or something like that. Things like Aang learning spirit bending with a touch from a giant lion-turtle or able to go Avatar from bumping into a rock are obvious deux ex machinas, but most Avatar fans just let it slide because it works into the story. But god forbid if Kishi pulls anything like that without the Library lynching him.



Hey Reikai :awesome
Ughg dubbing for Chinese never works for me. :D: I think its because since I understand Chinese I always compare the dubbing to the actual original dialogue in my head and it distracts me.

Azula did eat, since you see her eat some cherries. But her paranoia was definitely getting the best of her. Seeing and hearing people who are not there is not a good sign. And she was pretty much going berserk at Zuko as opposed to mindfucking him as she usually did. She was physically quite capable, but her psychological edge was gone. That said though, how was she able to bend lightning? Shouldn't it have blown up in her face because of her inner turmoil or something?

I wonder if she'll appear in the Zuko spin-off though. I'd like to see more crazy Azula.

If that happens, I could see Azula being a focus. Having her hallucinate and see Ursa in the mirror signaled to me that that Azula might be able to be partially saved if Zuko finds Ursa. She'll always be somewhat mentally disturbed, but reconciling with Ursa would probably allow her to find and maintain some kind of normalcy.

[ReikaiDemon]

Although I agree Naruto's writing isn't as good as Avatar's its nowhere as bad as people in the Library make it out to be. Its more because people analyze it to the last detail and complain incessantly about the smallest damn things. You would get threads that say things like "Zuko logically couldn't have blocked the lightning because lightning is so fast that he would have no time to react!" or something like that. Things like Aang learning spirit bending with a touch from a giant lion-turtle or able to go Avatar from bumping into a rock are obvious deux ex machinas, but most Avatar fans just let it slide because it works into the story. But god forbid if Kishi pulls anything like that without the Library lynching him.



Hey Reikai :awesome
Ughg dubbing for Chinese never works for me. :D: I think its because since I understand Chinese I always compare the dubbing to the actual original dialogue in my head and it distracts me.

Azula did eat, since you see her eat some cherries. But her paranoia was definitely getting the best of her. Seeing and hearing people who are not there is not a good sign. And she was pretty much going berserk at Zuko as opposed to mindfucking him as she usually did. She was physically quite capable, but her psychological edge was gone. That said though, how was she able to bend lightning? Shouldn't it have blown up in her face because of her inner turmoil or something?

I wonder if she'll appear in the Zuko spin-off though. I'd like to see more crazy Azula.
Me too

Yeah, Azula did eat, but she didn't eat much, cherries a meal does not make.

I think that maybe, she was so extremely insane, that her insanity powered her lightning. Though, luckily for Zuko, being so offset, weakened Azula's lightning power enough so that he'd survive the bolt.

I'm betting Azula is like Hannibal Lecter now, all strapped up into a dolly with a face mask. Hmm, I bet those family dinners are really awkward like that.

[Banhammer]

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7016/melonlordtextfullca9.gif

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Another thing I really liked besides Zuko's reuinion, was just that entire fight scene with him and Azula. It wasn't really spectacular or anything, but there was just something about him and his sister having that final throwdown, and him actually matching her move for move (The excuse about Azula being off her game hurt it a little, but not entirely, because for him to match his sister if she's off half a step, means he had to gain about three steps himself.)

The self sacrifice finish was the perfect way to end it, after he clearly had her beat.

Sort of a Rocky moment, that scene, where he had Apollo Creed beat, yet didn't beat him, yet the scene came off stronger for it.

[Jove]

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7016/melonlordtextfullca9.gif

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[hcheng02]

Plus, counting the fact that he has only ever beaten Azula once before the last Agni Kai. :D

When did Zuko ever beat Azula before the last Agni Kai? The only thing I can think of that came close was when they were matching blows during the Boiling Rock.

[squirrelnacht]

When did Zuko ever beat Azula before the last Agni Kai? The only thing I can think of that came close was when they were matching blows during the Boiling Rock.
On the airships at the start of Southern Raiders. No matter how you slice it, he got the better of her there. Even if he he'd have died were Appa not there.

[ReikaiDemon]

On the airships at the start of Southern Raiders. No matter how you slice it, he got the better of her there. Even if he he'd have died were Appa not there.
lol, slice

[Noah]

Or maybe an AVATAR Avatar MMORPG? :sag

If it had a good engine, I might actually pay for it! Earthbending class for me!

[ReikaiDemon]

If it had a good engine, I might actually pay for it! Earthbending class for me!
You don't really need a good engine to play an MMO, just look at WoW :nod

[Noah]

You don't really need a good engine to play an MMO, just look at WoW :nod

I already did. And CoH.
...still waiting on that good engine to keep my money more than 2 months. :notrust

I still nominate a 2.5d fighter with online capabilities for worldwide bending battles! :awesome

[Bolt Crank]

Seeing Azula go from this (http://destikim.deviantart.com/art/Azula-Queen-of-Evil-60960942) to this (http://destikim.deviantart.com/art/Devil-s-Tears-92575362) was almost too painful to watch.





So... think about some of the storylines and specials that could be done to resolve them, as well as a few obvious things that aren't necessary but could be used to continue with some of the same characters:

Zuko's Story: This would, natch, be him finding his mother. LIkely Minor Characters: Mai, Azula, Ursa, Oozai. Mai might actually be upgradable to full major character for this. Also, depending on where Ursa is, and just to finish out a theme, I'd make the Major character Zuko, Mai and Toph. Because, hey, she's right. Everyone else *did* get to go on a life changing journey with Zuko. It also could lead into...

Toph's story. Probably her return home, her reuniting with her parents. Unlikely have have many returning characters outside her parents and possibly The Boulder.

Iroh's story. LIkely done entirely in the past. Set after Lu Ten's death and exactly what happened when he went to the spirit world. Likely to involve Koh. Might involve the previous water tribe Avatar, given his story.

Ty Lee's story: Women in Prison after hours special staring her and Kiyoshi warriors. Joke! Joke! But, actually, her adapting to like in the Earth Kingdom might be worth an episode. Would also allow the continuation of Suki and Sokka in the background.

Between these and a few more, it might be possible to get another half season to season out of the series in half hour to two hour specials.

[hcheng02]

Me too

Yeah, Azula did eat, but she didn't eat much, cherries a meal does not make.

I think that maybe, she was so extremely insane, that her insanity powered her lightning. Though, luckily for Zuko, being so offset, weakened Azula's lightning power enough so that he'd survive the bolt.

This makes sense actually.

I'm betting Azula is like Hannibal Lecter now, all strapped up into a dolly with a face mask. Hmm, I bet those family dinners are really awkward like that.

I bet they'll be a scene in the Zuko spin off where Azula pulls a Lector escape. She'll bite/burn the guards faces off, and escape while the whole Fire Nation prison guard runs in circles to catch her.

Seeing Azula go from this (http://destikim.deviantart.com/art/Azula-Queen-of-Evil-60960942) to this (http://destikim.deviantart.com/art/Devil-s-Tears-92575362) was almost too painful to watch.

But strangely satisfying.

So... think about some of the storylines and specials that could be done to resolve them, as well as a few obvious things that aren't necessary but could be used to continue with some of the same characters:

Zuko's Story: This would, natch, be him finding his mother. LIkely Minor Characters: Mai, Azula, Ursa, Oozai. Mai might actually be upgradable to full major character for this. Also, depending on where Ursa is, and just to finish out a theme, I'd make the Major character Zuko, Mai and Toph. Because, hey, she's right. Everyone else *did* get to go on a life changing journey with Zuko. It also could lead into...

Toph's story. Probably her return home, her reuniting with her parents. Unlikely have have many returning characters outside her parents and possibly The Boulder.

Iroh's story. LIkely done entirely in the past. Set after Lu Ten's death and exactly what happened when he went to the spirit world. Likely to involve Koh. Might involve the previous water tribe Avatar, given his story.

Ty Lee's story: Women in Prison after hours special staring her and Kiyoshi warriors. Joke! Joke! But, actually, her adapting to like in the Earth Kingdom might be worth an episode. Would also allow the continuation of Suki and Sokka in the background.

Between these and a few more, it might be possible to get another half season to season out of the series in half hour to two hour specials.

Zuko would definitely be the main character. I like the idea of Mai and Toph tagging along. Maybe Ty Lee too. I think Iroh might play a bigger role than simply being in the past. He might actually bring Zuko in to the White Lotus :awesome. Either that, or he'll be caretaker of the throne while Zuko's off adventuring.

[ReikaiDemon]

This makes sense actually.



I bet they'll be a scene in the Zuko spin off where Azula pulls a Lector escape. She'll bite/burn the guards faces off, and escape while the whole Fire Nation prison guard runs in circles to catch her.



But strangely satisfying.



Zuko would definitely be the main character. I like the idea of Mai and Toph tagging along. Maybe Ty Lee too. I think Iroh might play a bigger role than simply being in the past. He might actually bring Zuko in to the White Lotus :awesome. Either that, or he'll be caretaker of the throne while Zuko's off adventuring.
That escape would be so fucking AVATAR :iria

And if that happens, Toph would finally get a proper field trip from Zuko :iria

[Michael Jacksőn]

Zuko never even beat Azula fairly. Before fighting, Katara said that he shouldnt try to take her, but Zuko says she's off, and NOW he can take her. If she wasnt as crazy as she was at the time, she wouldve owned him. Along with the fact that it was 2 on 1.

[Kaenboshi]

Actually, I'd argue that if Azula wasn't losing it, she wouldn't have bothered with accepting Zuko's challenge.

[hcheng02]

Zuko never even beat Azula fairly. Before fighting, Katara said that he shouldnt try to take her, but Zuko says she's off, and NOW he can take her. If she wasnt as crazy as she was at the time, she wouldve owned him. Along with the fact that it was 2 on 1.

Actually Zuko fought her one on one evenly (and was gaining the upper hand) until she fought dirty and tried to zap Katara. After that it was still one on one, only Azula faced Katara alone while Zuko was KOed. Its not like Zuko and Katara ganged up on her (although that was Katara initially suggested).

Anyway, the new series should give a little more info on the White Lotus. Its past, its traditions, how you get in. So far the only thing they've shown is that its filled with uber strong old guys.

It would be awesome if Azula started stalking Zuko after she breaks out. Just like that Silence of the Lambs sequel.

[squirrelnacht]

Toph's story. Probably her return home, her reuniting with her parents. Unlikely have have many returning characters outside her parents and possibly The Boulder.
Xin Fu and Master Yu will be there. And will be trapped in a metal box by the end of the special.

On an unrelated note, who thinks The Boulder would be awesome in a courtroom comedy?


The biggest problems I can see with an MMO are balancing the classes; benders should be fine, but what about those of us who want to play some badass normal with a space sword.

And the other would be dealing with all the people who want to be avatars.

Seeing Azula go from this to this was almost too painful to watch.
The keyword being almost.

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Why is there any question about Mai 'tagging along'? Zuko & Mai are kinda /inseparable/ now, guys, just like Aang & Katara. If not /more/.

And if they're not already engaged, then I demands that this one-shot have a marriage proposal scene. :P

[Jove]

Actually, I'd argue that if Azula wasn't losing it, she wouldn't have bothered with accepting Zuko's challenge.

Or challenging him, I think you mean. But I think even a sane Azula would have understood that there was nothing else they could have done but fought there.


Zuko never even beat Azula fairly. Before fighting, Katara said that he shouldnt try to take her, but Zuko says she's off, and NOW he can take her. If she wasnt as crazy as she was at the time, she wouldve owned him. Along with the fact that it was 2 on 1.


And as I said, all the times Azula bested Zuko, she had a resounding psychological advantage. An advantage that she exploited. But in the end she crumbled, and Zuko had gained the clarity to defeat her. There was nothing unfair about it.

And before she became Crazula, he fought her evenly on the gondola in TBR and went right through her attacks as if they were nothing in TSR.

[masterriku]

Anyone else find it remotely odd that the local Zutara fans have not entered the theard with their rants.Perhaps they are more sensible or they are planning an invasion during SDCC a la day of black sun.:pek

[Kaenboshi]

Or challenging him, I think you mean. But I think even a sane Azula would have understood that there was nothing else they could have done but fought there. How'd I mix that up? :facepalm But, I still don't see sane Azula making everything ride on one Agni Kai, and of course wouldn't have banished everyone else.

[Jove]

Anyone else find it remotely odd that the local Zutara fans have not entered the theard with their rants.Perhaps they are more sensible or they are planning an invasion during SDCC a la day of black sun.:pek

You know, this Friday's panel is going to be the last chance for a long while to get information... they had better not ruin this.

They also know that such behavior will not be tolerated here. I'll flame them all out myself if I have to.

[Superrazien]

Does anyone know where I can get the Avatar song that played when Aang threw that Fire Nation dance party? They played it again when Zuko, Katara, Toph, and Sokka went to that Bar to find that bounty hunter girl to look for Aang.

[ReikaiDemon]

Actually Zuko fought her one on one evenly (and was gaining the upper hand) until she fought dirty and tried to zap Katara. After that it was still one on one, only Azula faced Katara alone while Zuko was KOed. Its not like Zuko and Katara ganged up on her (although that was Katara initially suggested).

Anyway, the new series should give a little more info on the White Lotus. Its past, its traditions, how you get in. So far the only thing they've shown is that its filled with uber strong old guys.

It would be awesome if Azula started stalking Zuko after she breaks out. Just like that Silence of the Lambs sequel.Zuko screaming like a girl XD
Anyways, the White Lotus did exist in history, they were made up of people from many religions, and led the first Ming emperor, Zhu Yuanzhang to power. Zhu led an army in the name of the Lotus, but he forbid his army to pillage. IF the White Lotus was expanded upon in Avatar, it might resemble history of the real White Lotus. Either from major events of the 14th century, or the 18th century.

Xin Fu and Master Yu will be there. And will be trapped in a metal box by the end of the special.

On an unrelated note, who thinks The Boulder would be awesome in a courtroom comedy?


The biggest problems I can see with an MMO are balancing the classes; benders should be fine, but what about those of us who want to play some badass normal with a space sword.

And the other would be dealing with all the people who want to be avatars.


The keyword being almost.lmao, talking skeletons

Lmao, the Boulder in the courtroom reminds me of the Phoenix Wright games :<3

I think that'd be simple to solve, either make only the NPC avatars, or make the avatar powers really difficult to get, like at a high level, or do lots of quests, or simply don't have any option of having avatar powers available. Or have each bending class avatars, but make them choose a base class, like, if you chose Earthbending, earthbending will take much less chi than bending other elements, and is much stronger. Or course, there would be a normal class of swordsmen, tribesmen, and etc.

Plus, we've all seen how well normals handle benders, just look at Jet, June, Ty Lee, and Mai.

Plus we'll throw in some neutral chi powers too.

[The Cheat]

I'm now debating with this guy who claims the finale in terms of plot was bad and that aang still treated katara like a possession in season three.

[ReikaiDemon]

Why is there any question about Mai 'tagging along'? Zuko & Mai are kinda /inseparable/ now, guys, just like Aang & Katara. If not /more/.

And if they're not already engaged, then I demands that this one-shot have a marriage proposal scene. :P
Or a wedding :iria

[Jove]

I'm now debating with this guy who claims the finale in terms of plot was bad and that aang still treated katara like a possession in season three.

Ugh... you realize that since this is the last episode, this will carry on forever? When did Aang EVER treat Katara like a possession?

[ReikaiDemon]

Ugh... you realize that since this is the last episode, this will carry on forever? When did Aang EVER treat Katara like a possession?
I dunno, maybe it was in episode 567, where Aang bitch slapped Katara the da bak of his GOD KILLING HAND, and told her to make him a damn sandwich :zaru Then she blew him away with a snub nose revolver, and peed on him.....Oh waiiiiit, what show am I watching?

[plox]

your not wrong your watching avatar the last shit bender

[ReikaiDemon]

your not wrong your watching avatar the last shit bender
Oh yeah, I gotta remind myself to stop traveling into the future so much, I can't tell which period is my native time line anymore :(
Boy, things got really sad when the first live action Avatar movie flopped, which made Viacom turn Avatar over to MTV's crack team of flash animators...
Sokka....He just sat back and scratched his BAWLS...
He just didn't care anymore once he lost his space sword....

Also, it's called "Avatar:Aang's Everlasting Bender" :zaru

[Sunuvmann]

Awesome.

That makes it more logical then the story idea I came up with within the avatar-verse (bored musings) where Aang dies saving the world from an asteroid at the age of 90 or so, then assassins who are of Azula's descendents kill the new Water Avatar when he's like 5 while in Avatar state. This severs the bond between the spirit and the living world effectively ending bending.

100 years later, without bending technology takes over and you have a world near ours (or rather more like just industrial instead of post industrial...lets say like the 40s).

And then the main character comes into play (modern day earth kingdom) and is attacked by a gang wielding flame throwers who liken themselves to Fire Benders. He tries to save his girlfriend and is engulfed with flames but the honorable act, he proves himself worthy to the spirit world and is granted the powers as the new avatar, re-establishing the connection.

The ruins of the old Avatar temples then begin to glow and a beam of light shoots to him. He is a new avatar but all he has for an avatar state is the ability to control the elements, none of the wisdom so with it he can fire bend to safety in a wild uncontrolled rage, none of the crazy shit we saw from Aang.

The episode then ends with a really really old lady (like say 200 years old :awesome) who is walking down the street with a seeing eye-pygmybadgermole. Suddenly two guys try and mug her and that is simultaneous with the return of the Avatar to the world. And then the old lady looks up as her feet touch the ground. And she smiles and says. "Oh its been a while since I could see. And its been even longer that I've been wanting to do this."

And the piece of sidewalk that those guys were standing on fly skyward with them screaming their heads off.

/episode.
So expanding on that universe:

In the years following the end of bending, 'The Great Schism', named for the break between the spirit world and the real world, Zuko was killed in the anarchy that consumed the Fire Nation. Long had the power of the fire lord been seen as coming from fire itself and the fire lord seen as the most powerful bender. But with no more fire bending, Zuko had no ability to enforce his authority and rival generals were making plays for power. He was ultimately assassinated at the age of 95. His son tried to unite the empire but it ultimately failed and he was driven in exile. By the present there are two fire nations, One of the largest island, still loyal to the fire lord and run by a stand in leader and a conglomeration of the remaining islands who are under a military dictatorship.

King Bumi, before his death had effectively rebuilt the Earth Kingdom and for years it prospered under the wise rule of the two kings and slowly a constitutional monarchy developed (or at least the equivalent) :sag (Bumi's dying words were 'Snort A HAHA Let the people rule. No wait. Badgermoles.') Bumi died at the ripe old age of 180 of natural causes.

However with the end of Earth Bending, the Senate tried to consolidate its power to prevent the anarchy it heard happening in the Fire Nation. Its armies were sent to crush dissent in the villages and bring the nation under centralized rule creating a great divide between the backwards villages who still resent the Earth Government and the cities. A few of the Fire Nation generals sought to invade during the resulting turmoil of the Great Schism but the raids were beaten back. This however was not forgotten and many border wars have been fought between the two with little gain from either.

Sokka became chief of the Southern Water tribe. His personality was surprisingly serious and the people prospered. He died in his sleep at 75.

His son gained great renown as a water bender before the ending of bending.

In the years following though, contact between the two tribes broke off due to the difficulty of reaching each other without bending (technological backwardness) and the War of the Two Fire Nations.

The Air Nomads were rebuilt under Aang, largely consisting of the people who occupied that Air Temple but many embraced Aang's teachings and the way of the Air Nomads. Within a few generations they were flourishing however only a few dozen air benders existed, mostly Aang's descendants.

After the death of the avatar, they chose to isiolate themselves as much as possible to prevent a catastrophe of the previous genocide from ever reoccurring. However they did happen to create for themselves a powerful air force :LOS

Now as for the main characters...

Names, no idea, but I'll tell you who they are.

Main Character, New Avatar - No relation to anyone but knew Toph as an old friend of his family.

Main Character's girlfriend - Heir to the throne of the fire nation, Zuko's great-great grand daughter. Secretly trusted to Toph's care.


I'll work out the rest of them later but I'm pretty tired now :sag

[squirrelnacht]

Lmao, the Boulder in the courtroom reminds me of the Phoenix Wright games
That was pretty much my line of thought.
"The Boulder has an objection to that line of questioning."

Plus, we've all seen how well normals handle benders, just look at Jet, June, Ty Lee, and Mai.
Good point, I've just been finishing off a couple old KOTOR files and wondering why do I have people with blasters when I can just run around with a bunch of crazy Jedi. I don't like when something like that happens.

[Taurus Versant]

You know, this Friday's panel is going to be the last chance for a long while to get information... they had better not ruin this.

They also know that such behavior will not be tolerated here. I'll flame them all out myself if I have to.

I'd help you. And if the panel gets ruined, heads will roll. :sun

Zero's bringing quite some epic to his idea. AVATAR work. :awesome

And courtroom Boulder would rock out loud.

[Noah]

Ugh... you realize that since this is the last episode, this will carry on forever? When did Aang EVER treat Katara like a possession?

Never! And that should be the argument for why it's not good! Waterbend me up some dinner, woman! :zaru

[Linkdarkside]

Wow, I went out to dinner and there are 4 new pages?

Aaaaanyways, for the person who asked for the Maiko kiss gif:

One with the poking and hug: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3550/maikoko6.gif

Just the kiss: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3613/maikoshortai7.gif


I might as well list the gifs I already have made in case people want them:

Azula banishing the old ladies
dragon azula
azula crying
zuko's break dance move
ozai burninating the landscape
appa eating sokka
aang in the element ball
aang shooting rock bullets
ozai ripping his clothes off
zuko and iroh hug
play jet dying (crawling under the rock)
kataang kiss
play mai throwing the knife
melon lord
katara and zuko scooting away from each other
play azlua, mai, and ty lee posing
toph is ironman
maiko kiss
play toph screaming
sokka's reaction to his joke being used
honor!!!
and yip yipawesome thanks man

[Superstarseven]

Teacher lasts 20 hours on carnival ride, wins $1K (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jku89MRFG76BwEhckuYK6b08SEMAD923PH9G0)

Any publicity is good publicity right?

BLOOMINGTON, Minn. (AP) — A Minnesota high school teacher has lasted 20 hours on a carnival ride to win the Ride the Tide Challenge at the Mall of America.

Jim Salava, 40, of Oakdale, was declared the winner at the Nickelodeon Universe theme park when his final opponent stepped down at 2:35 a.m. Tuesday.

Salava was among 10 riders who boarded the Avatar Airbender at 6:30 a.m. Monday. The pool dwindled to three riders just three hours into the competition.

The Avatar Airbender averages 43 mph and reaches heights of 70 feet. Other than bathroom and meal breaks, contestants remained on the ride at all times — even to sleep.

The top prize includes a family cruise, $1,000 spending cash and a lifetime pass to the theme park.

[ReikaiDemon]

Teacher lasts 20 hours on carnival ride, wins $1K (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jku89MRFG76BwEhckuYK6b08SEMAD923PH9G0)

Any publicity is good publicity right?
:D: 20 hours on an easy ride like that? I should've been there :D:

[Koi]

OKAY.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/avatar/images/thumb/e/ed/Boulder_003.jpg/300px-Boulder_003.jpg
=
http://www.kidzworld.com/multimedia/Zone110402/zow.jpg

THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE.

DO NOT FUCK THIS UP, M. NIGHT. I WILL BE COMING FOR YOU.

[ReikaiDemon]

OKAY.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/avatar/images/thumb/e/ed/Boulder_003.jpg/300px-Boulder_003.jpg
=
http://www.kidzworld.com/multimedia/Zone110402/zow.jpg

THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE.

DO NOT FUCK THIS UP, M. NIGHT. I WILL BE COMING FOR YOU.
That's what I said pages ago XD Page 462 to be exact :iria Dwayne Johnson is obviously the Boulder :LOS

[Jove]

You forget that Dwayne Johnson magically lost a lot of that rock-solid muscle mass somehow for some reason. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[ReikaiDemon]

You forget that Dwayne Johnson magically lost a lot of that rock-solid muscle mass somehow for some reason. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png
No reason why he couldn't buff up again :zaru

[Gaiash]

You forget that Dwayne Johnson magically lost a lot of that rock-solid muscle mass somehow for some reason. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png
Theres always CGI.

[Superstarseven]

Well Toph's introduction into the series is pivotal so I have no doubt that we'll get to see the Earthbending tournament in the second film. The Rock seems the logical choice in casting The Boulder...c'mon the entire character is pretty much based on him.
Let me take this moment also to give credit to a person who had as much influence in shaping the world of Avatar and the show as the creators did. Aaron Ehasz, the unsung hero of Avatar:The Last Airbender. One obvious advantage of being a silent partner is that he can steer clear of the Zutarian's wrath.
I'm going to also post up this video from my Youtube account
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOFt5Jr0pZw
Lest we forget how hard everyone worked on the show.
Amazing to think that people thought this series was just an opportunity to cash in on some Anime craze that never happened.

[ReikaiDemon]

Well Toph's introduction into the series is pivotal so I have no doubt that we'll get to see the Earthbending tournament in the second film. The Rock seems the logical choice in casting The Boulder...c'mon the entire character is pretty much based on him.
Let me take this moment also to give credit to a person who had as much influence in shaping the world of Avatar and the show as the creators did. Aaron Ehasz, the unsung hero of Avatar:The Last Airbender. One obvious advantage of being a silent partner is that he can steer clear of the Zutarian's wrath.
I'm going to also post up this video from my Youtube account
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOFt5Jr0pZw
Lest we forget how hard everyone worked on the show.
Amazing to think that people thought this series was just an opportunity to cash in on some Anime craze that never happened.
When I first heard of Avatar, I just rolled my eyes, because I thought it was trying to copy the style of manga. Obviously, I changed my mind pretty early when I read up on it, I didn't realize with was so full of culture, and style.
Anyways, I hope more people pay more attention to detail and story and plot in American animation from now on, I'm just sick of crap like Kappa Mikey, and Gym Partner *shudders* There's no reason why only anime should be the modern capsule of plot and art in animation, and cartoons have proven to be more than mindless entertainment like Spongebob, we've had Bruce Timm and Paul Dini's rendition of Batman back then, we had Gargoyles, which was tragically canceled short of it's myth arc, we've even had in recent years, Justice League, of course, it was all kinda sad that the writers "ran out of things to write about"... It's funny, because as of now, I can only come up with Avatar as being one of the few serious cartoons to finish from beginning to end in American history without being canceled or derailed by executive meddling.
I think it's kinda sad that now traditional 2d animation is dwindling, network decay runs rampart, and the subject media of animation is STILL regarded as child's play in most of the world.

[Kaenboshi]

^ After seeing all that hard work, I kind of feel like an ungrateful bastard...

[ReikaiDemon]

^ After seeing all that hard work, I kind of feel like an ungrateful bastard...
Buy the DVDs then :D Your money goes to them through the DVDs. Personally, I'm waiting for the box set.

[Kaenboshi]

I already have some of them. It's just that I don't I really considered just how much effort the entire staff has done.

[ReikaiDemon]

I already have some of them. It's just that I don't I really considered just how much effort the entire staff has done.
Well, they love the art, otherwise, none of them would put themselves through the arduous process of traditional animation.

By proxy, they love us too :nod Even if the crazy Zutarians hate them for the finale.

[Jove]

yeah, there's no way I can feel ungrateful. Not after all the cash I've spent. I just dropped another $50 on merch. Oy.

But I'd add to SS7's purpose, and say that there's so many members of the crew that deserve mention slightly below Mike and Bryan. And the Track Team and Sifu Kisu.

--- Eric Coleman, the Nick executive that basically made the show happen, and made it happen in an artistically free manner. He was the one that allowed them to tell the story in the way it was meant to be told.
--- Tim Hedrick, who wrote many of the best episodes, such as "City of Walls and Secrets," and "Sokka's Master."
--- Giancarlo Volpe, a director from the very beginning.
--- Storyboard artists like Justin Ridge, Michael Change, Johane Matte, Kenji Ono, etc.
--- Voice Director Andrea Romano
--- Siu-Leung Lee, who was responsible for all the calligraphy.

[ReikaiDemon]

yeah, there's no way I can feel ungrateful. Not after all the cash I've spent. I just dropped another $50 on merch. Oy.

But I'd add to SS7's purpose, and say that there's so many members of the crew that deserve mention slightly below Mike and Bryan. And the Track Team and Sifu Kisu.

--- Eric Coleman, the Nick executive that basically made the show happen, and made it happen in an artistically free manner. He was the one that allowed them to tell the story in the way it was meant to be told.
--- Tim Hedrick, who wrote many of the best episodes, such as "City of Walls and Secrets," and "Sokka's Master."
--- Giancarlo Volpe, a director from the very beginning.
--- Storyboard artists like Justin Ridge, Michael Change, Johane Matte, Kenji Ono, etc.
--- Voice Director Andrea Romano
--- Siu-Leung Lee, who was responsible for all the calligraphy.
Yeah, it surprised me that a Nick exec would let them take that much artistic liberty with the series. Especially with such a mature subject matter of war, death, life, and personal duty.
I'm surprised any of this happened on Nick, but, I'm glad it did, because Nick has been in a nosedive since EVER.

[Jove]

Yeah, it surprised me that a Nick exec would let them take that much artistic liberty with the series. Especially with such a mature subject matter of war, death, life, and personal duty.
I'm surprised any of this happened on Nick, but, I'm glad it did, because Nick has been in a nosedive since EVER.

Yeah, and that executive is now at Disney. :(

Without Coleman there, I'm not sure what a new series would entail... Avatar doesn't have a lot of clout at Nick, thanks to Nick.

[Kaenboshi]

Yeah, and that executive is now at Disney. :(

Without Coleman there, I'm not sure what a new series would entail... Avatar doesn't have a lot of clout at Nick, thanks to Nick.No good can come of this.

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah, and that executive is now at Disney. :(

Without Coleman there, I'm not sure what a new series would entail... Avatar doesn't have a lot of clout at Nick, thanks to Nick.
It really shows <.< With crap like iCarly, H2O(For some reason, an English teen opera about mermaids, localized here) and which ever show Brittany Speare's sister is in...<.< Just vapid, shallow melodrama now.
Aaand, Spongebob, and Oddparents will always be regarded better than Avatar by Nick, because they can't air Avatar's eps out of sequence without making sense. They probably will though, and air some eps over and over and over....
Ugh, Disney? Man, they're one of the most evil corporations on the face of the planet...

[Jove]

Hot off the presses, the always awesome tvshowsondvd.com just released info on the extras for the Complete Book 3 Collection. This is the back cover:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/Airbender-CompleteBook3_rea.jpg

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Avatar-Airbender-Season-3-Rear-Box-Art/10137

This is great news. I knew that the commentaries for Volume 4 was only on Southern Raiders and Ember Island Players, so I figured they had something planned for the finale.

[Superstarseven]

Here's another example that Mike and Bryan weren't F'ing around. They say that they were taking a break in the video I linked to but actually Bryan was also at work location scouting in Iceland and taking pictures of the landscape of course for the background art work. You can take a look at yourself on his personal webpage http://www.bryankonietzko.com/
click on albums and look for Iceland - July 2006
You'll see that in photo number 46, this was used as the reference for the water filled crater that the Gaang was bathing in during The Beach episode.

Also I think Dave Lambert is mistaken about this upcoming Comiccon Avatar panel being the one recorded for the DVD. $88 bucks on it being the panel from last year's SDCC right before the third season premiere.

[Jove]

Here's another example that Mike and Bryan weren't F'ing around. They say that they were taking a break in the video I linked to but actually Bryan was also at work location scouting in Iceland and taking pictures of the landscape of course for the background art work. You can take a look at yourself on his personal webpage http://www.bryankonietzko.com/
click on albums and look for Iceland - July 2006
You'll see that in photo number 46, this was used as the reference for the water filled crater that the Gaang was bathing in during The Beach episode.

Also I think Dave Lambert is mistaken about this upcoming Comiccon Avatar panel being the one recorded for the DVD. $88 bucks on it being the panel from last year's SDCC right before the third season premiere.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. It's last year's; that one was called Into the Inferno, and we basically got confirmation from Nick that they were releasing their footage of it when they told Kevin Coppa not to upload his footage.

[Koi]

So I'm just hopping on real quick (I'll backread a bit later) but so, the SDCC panel is tomorrow, yeah? Is anyone going? Are we getting coverage?

[Jove]

So I'm just hopping on real quick (I'll backread a bit later) but so, the SDCC panel is tomorrow, yeah? Is anyone going? Are we getting coverage?

I'm certainly not going, but I want to more than you could imagine. Cross-country trip would be unfeasible, though.

As for coverage, I'm not sure. I know that there will be people reporting on it, and youtube videos will certainly be up tomorrow by midnight, but I don't know if anyone's going to attempt to stream it.

BUT, in the process of looking, I found these threads:

http://www.kataangforever.net/forum/index.php?topic=13794.0

http://www.kataangforever.net/forum/index.php?topic=13596.0

Apparently, someone met Aaron Ehasz in Philadelphia a couple days ago, and he started posting at this forum this afternoon in response. Now, you have to be as skeptical as you can about this, but if this stuff is true, it's interesting information about unresolved issues and future Avatar workings.

[Noah]

Ergh. I'd rather there not be a season four. With an ending like Avatar had, an extra season would just diminish any real punch it had. My favorite endings are always the ones like this: the ending where everything is settled, but just a small hint of the future is shown to the audience. I feel that full epilogues always manage to ruin a great story.

Unless, of course, season four refers to a whole new story and characters. Maybe with Aang's spirit visiting a new avatar and unexplained parts of the story fitting in with what is currently going on.

[Jove]

Ergh. I'd rather there not be a season four. With an ending like Avatar had, an extra season would just diminish any real punch it had. My favorite endings are always the ones like this: the ending where everything is settled, but just a small hint of the future is shown to the audience. I feel that full epilogues always manage to ruin a great story.

Unless, of course, season four refers to a whole new story and characters. Maybe with Aang's spirit visiting a new avatar and unexplained parts of the story fitting in with what is currently going on.

I think it would be cool to see Aang in spirit form assisting a future Avatar, simply to see what is Aang's true Avatar spirit form. Kyoshi was in her 20's-30's, Kuruk and Yangchen around middle age, and Roku around his death.

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Iroh is staying out of the Fire Nation capital for the moment because his very presence /undermines/ the legitimacy of Zuko's rule.

Remember that Iroh is a rival claimant for the throne -- indeed, depending on who you ask, he's the /legitimate/ claimant to the throne and Ozai was a usurper, and Zuko thus the heir of a usurper. Of course, Iroh doesn't /want/ the throne, and fully backs Zuko's claim to it -- however, his mere /existence/ in the Fire Nation capital would still raise doubts in an already doubt-filled time. Ambitious and greedy men tend to believe that all others are greedy and ambitious. Even though we (and Zuko) know that Iroh has absolutely no intention of undermining Zuko's rule, just living anywhere within a thousand miles of it would make many of those intrigueing noblemen and scheming generals that the new Fire Lord's got to deal with get all sorts of funny ideas -- whether out of fear that Iroh would take the throne and then proceed to smack them like bitches, or whether out of the mistaken belief that they could get in on whatever scheme the ol' Dragon of the West is "obviously" hatching.

Also, as the enormously more experienced and legendary figure that he is, many /decent/ Fire Nation politicos might lobby for Iroh to be Fire Lord instead of Zuko, precisely /because/ he'd do a damn good job. Granted, we know that Zuko also is set up to do a very good job, but again, we're the audience. The people living inside the show, they don't get the birds'-eye POV we do. They can see only their own little corner of the world, and their own doubts and fears.

And so, Iroh being in Fire Lord Zuko's court means that despite all the (undoubtedly immense) aid he could give Zuko, he'd also be giving Zuko two whole new sets of problems -- both from the good side, and the bad side.

There is a reason that, historically, the biggest favor you can do someone if you're a rival claimant for their crown is to /stay the hell away from their kingdom/.

Also, who says Iroh's just going to be making tea? Oh, sure, that's what he says he'll be doing -- but hey, Iroh's only spent virtually the entire show pretending to be a harmless old man while in fact being, y'know, Iroh. And let's not forget, Iroh is the grand master of the Order of the White Lotus... and you really think /they/ won't have a lot of work to be doing re: restoring balance & harmony to the world? And that Iroh won't be in the thick of it? And that the Jasmine Dragon tea shop won't actually be, under its humble appearance, the headquarters of one of the most formidable secret societies in the world?





Now, Minister Piandao... sure, he's no Firebender, but the man's /sharp/.

(edit) Actually, now that I think about it, its really a good idea. Piandao's /very/ well-educated (witness the lessons he hands out at his swordsmanship academy), has his own renown in the Fire Nation as its greatest swordsmaster and sensei, is himself a good 'wise old mentor' figure, has at least /some/ political acuity, and also has a ready-made position waiting for him (Personal trainer for the Fire Lord) that would raise absolutely no suspicions (he /is/ the greatest swordsmaster in the kingdom, after all), not come with any political entanglements, be beneath the radar of most ambitious courtiers, and yet allow him direct personal access to the Fire Lord on a daily basis and relative freedom to move about the court as subtly as he felt like.

If the Order of the White Lotus wants a permanent agent-in-place at the royal court of the Fire Nation, send Piandao.

[Koi]

I'm certainly not going, but I want to more than you could imagine. Cross-country trip would be unfeasible, though.

As for coverage, I'm not sure. I know that there will be people reporting on it, and youtube videos will certainly be up tomorrow by midnight, but I don't know if anyone's going to attempt to stream it.

BUT, in the process of looking, I found these threads:

http://www.kataangforever.net/forum/index.php?topic=13794.0

http://www.kataangforever.net/forum/index.php?topic=13596.0

Apparently, someone met Aaron Ehasz in Philadelphia a couple days ago, and he started posting at this forum this afternoon in response. Now, you have to be as skeptical as you can about this, but if this stuff is true, it's interesting information about unresolved issues and future Avatar workings.
Yeah, I would LOVE to make it to SDCC at least once, but working retail + being on the East coast = makes it highly unfeasible any time soon. :\

As for the links, it might be him. But the fact that he's not familiar with Usagi Yojimbo makes me question it. A lot.

[ReikaiDemon]

Iroh is staying out of the Fire Nation capital for the moment because his very presence /undermines/ the legitimacy of Zuko's rule.

Remember that Iroh is a rival claimant for the throne -- indeed, depending on who you ask, he's the /legitimate/ claimant to the throne and Ozai was a usurper, and Zuko thus the heir of a usurper. Of course, Iroh doesn't /want/ the throne, and fully backs Zuko's claim to it -- however, his mere /existence/ in the Fire Nation capital would still raise doubts in an already doubt-filled time. Ambitious and greedy men tend to believe that all others are greedy and ambitious. Even though we (and Zuko) know that Iroh has absolutely no intention of undermining Zuko's rule, just living anywhere within a thousand miles of it would make many of those intrigueing noblemen and scheming generals that the new Fire Lord's got to deal with get all sorts of funny ideas -- whether out of fear that Iroh would take the throne and then proceed to smack them like bitches, or whether out of the mistaken belief that they could get in on whatever scheme the ol' Dragon of the West is "obviously" hatching.

Also, as the enormously more experienced and legendary figure that he is, many /decent/ Fire Nation politicos might lobby for Iroh to be Fire Lord instead of Zuko, precisely /because/ he'd do a damn good job. Granted, we know that Zuko also is set up to do a very good job, but again, we're the audience. The people living inside the show, they don't get the birds'-eye POV we do. They can see only their own little corner of the world, and their own doubts and fears.

And so, Iroh being in Fire Lord Zuko's court means that despite all the (undoubtedly immense) aid he could give Zuko, he'd also be giving Zuko two whole new sets of problems -- both from the good side, and the bad side.

There is a reason that, historically, the biggest favor you can do someone if you're a rival claimant for their crown is to /stay the hell away from their kingdom/.

Also, who says Iroh's just going to be making tea? Oh, sure, that's what he says he'll be doing -- but hey, Iroh's only spent virtually the entire show pretending to be a harmless old man while in fact being, y'know, Iroh. And let's not forget, Iroh is the grand master of the Order of the White Lotus... and you really think /they/ won't have a lot of work to be doing re: restoring balance & harmony to the world? And that Iroh won't be in the thick of it? And that the Jasmine Dragon tea shop won't actually be, under its humble appearance, the headquarters of one of the most formidable secret societies in the world?





Now, Minister Piandao... sure, he's no Firebender, but the man's /sharp/.

(edit) Actually, now that I think about it, its really a good idea. Piandao's /very/ well-educated (witness the lessons he hands out at his swordsmanship academy), has his own renown in the Fire Nation as its greatest swordsmaster and sensei, is himself a good 'wise old mentor' figure, has at least /some/ political acuity, and also has a ready-made position waiting for him (Personal trainer for the Fire Lord) that would raise absolutely no suspicions (he /is/ the greatest swordsmaster in the kingdom, after all), not come with any political entanglements, be beneath the radar of most ambitious courtiers, and yet allow him direct personal access to the Fire Lord on a daily basis and relative freedom to move about the court as subtly as he felt like.

If the Order of the White Lotus wants a permanent agent-in-place at the royal court of the Fire Nation, send Piandao.Nicely written :LOS

Yeah, I would LOVE to make it to SDCC at least once, but working retail + being on the East coast = makes it highly unfeasible any time soon. :\

As for the links, it might be him. But the fact that he's not familiar with Usagi Yojimbo makes me question it. A lot.Not a lot of people are familiar Usagi Yojimbo. Plus, it's not uncommon that a VA would visit a forum of the fandom of their IP. Heck, we got that going on here and in other Naruto forums.

[Narcissus]

Just as a side question, has any info been rleased on the Avatar movies?

[Taurus Versant]

Lol@ all you people living on the east coast. I live in Australia. I'm the one who can't go anywhere :D:

[Noah]

Swim, ya lazy jerk! :zaru

[Jove]

Also, who says Iroh's just going to be making tea? Oh, sure, that's what he says he'll be doing -- but hey, Iroh's only spent virtually the entire show pretending to be a harmless old man while in fact being, y'know, Iroh. And let's not forget, Iroh is the grand master of the Order of the White Lotus... and you really think /they/ won't have a lot of work to be doing re: restoring balance & harmony to the world? And that Iroh won't be in the thick of it? And that the Jasmine Dragon tea shop won't actually be, under its humble appearance, the headquarters of one of the most formidable secret societies in the world?


Actually, I believe it's not as ambiguous as it seems. I think Iroh truly wants to just run his teashop. But you're entirely correct, this will be no ordinary teashop. It's will, without question, be the most important place in the Avatar world for many years. At any time, you're likely to find the Avatar, the Fire Lord, the world's greatest Waterbender and Earthbender, and any number of members of the White Lotus.

The Jasmine Dragon could should be it's own spin-off show.

Nicely written :LOS

Not a lot of people are familiar Usagi Yojimbo. Plus, it's not uncommon that a VA would visit a forum of the fandom of their IP. Heck, we got that going on here and in other Naruto forums.

Yeah, this is true. Mike and Bryan were really the ones to trace those references to. they were the ones that spent years researching Eastern mythology, religion, and culture for the show. And they were the ones that came from the animation backgrounds, able to cite such material. Ehasz comes from a writer's background, comedy specifically. his contribution was more in making the comedy WAY more substantial and sound than most kid's shows, and in the use of literary devices and structural language-games.

[Superstarseven]

The first two episodes of the show were airing on Nicktoons a little while ago. I've seen someone complain that Aang never matured. Perhaps it's been a while since this person has seen The Boy In The Iceberg, the Aang in that episode was not the one we saw standing triumphantly in the last episode with Momo on his shoulder.

[ReikaiDemon]

Actually, I believe it's not as ambiguous as it seems. I think Iroh truly wants to just run his teashop. But you're entirely correct, this will be no ordinary teashop. It's will, without question, be the most important place in the Avatar world for many years. At any time, you're likely to find the Avatar, the Fire Lord, the world's greatest Waterbender and Earthbender, and any number of members of the White Lotus.

The Jasmine Dragon could should be it's own spin-off show.



Yeah, this is true. Mike and Bryan were really the ones to trace those references to. they were the ones that spent years researching Eastern mythology, religion, and culture for the show. And they were the ones that came from the animation backgrounds, able to cite such material. Ehasz comes from a writer's background, comedy specifically. his contribution was more in making the comedy WAY more substantial and sound than most kid's shows, and in the use of literary devices and structural language-games.
It's not the Jasmine Dragon, it's the Order of the Phoenix beeyotcha :LOS

[ViolentlyHappy]

Excuse me if this has already been posted but, water-bender.com (http://water-bender.com/audio/) has finally put of the links for the ost from the final four episodes. The osts they include are:

*End of Avatar
*The Avatar's Love
*Reconciliation
*Peace Excerpt
*Last Agni Kai

[Ha-ri]

Too Lazy to check back pages so I'm just gonna post it here,

Nickelodeon has revealed to GameDaily BIZ that it's preparing to take one of its hottest properties to the world of massively multiplayer games. The animated series, Avatar: The Last Airbender, which just had its highest rated series performance yet, is getting the MMO treatment this September. The global online game, Avatar: Legends of the Arena, will serve as a prequel to the story of the television program and will enable players to create their own Avatar character and test their skills against players from around the globe in several 3D online arenas. With each game level, Avatar players will unlock new content, challenges, custom character outfits and more "on an ongoing basis," Nickelodeon says.

Source (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nickelodeon-to-launch-avatar-the-last-airbender-mmo-in-september/?biz=1)

Never heard of the site till just now, but whatever It'd be nice to see.

[ReikaiDemon]

Too Lazy to check back pages so I'm just gonna post it here,



Source (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nickelodeon-to-launch-avatar-the-last-airbender-mmo-in-september/?biz=1)

Never heard of the site till just now, but whatever It'd be nice to see.
Whao (yes, misspelled whoa on purpose) isn't that funny? We were just talking about an Avatar MMO. Though, it's not surprising, it's an AVATAR idea that passes through everyone's head. I hope it won't be as stupid as runescape...AND IT BETTER BE BALANCED! :iria http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3388/supeririadd4.jpg

[Taurus Versant]

Here's hoping it turns out well. :iria

[Jove]

Ah, the game! I forgot to post this yesterday, but a preview of sorts came out yesterday:


http://www.nick.com/turbonick/index.jhtml?extvideoid=97362

[ReikaiDemon]

Argh :D: I hate the nick site :D: So full of crap coding, and huge graphics and slow ass servers:D:

I'm not sure that nick would be an impartial reviewer of the game <.<


Especially when it won't let me criticize it properly by not loading :yell

[Jove]

Argh :D: I hate the nick site :D: So full of crap coding, and huge graphics and slow ass servers:D:

I'm not sure that nick would be an impartial reviewer of the game <.<


Especially when it won't let me criticize it properly by not loading :yell

Well, I'll tell you this... guess which character design of Zuko they use?

If you guessed Book 1 Zuko, you're correct! colonFACEPALM!!

It looks alright. I've never played anything like this before, but if it's Avatar I'll do it. It's supposed to start Sept. 19.

[Superstarseven]

I've read some comments by fans that they think this game is going to be the big announcement and how lame that is. First off I didn't realize there was going to be any big announcement, there certainly wasn't any confirmation of that by any of the creators nor was it mentioned in the panel description. Secondly, Mike and Bryan have never whored out any of the video games thus far and have never done a bit of promotion for any of them. They might mention it but I'm sure it'll only be in passing.

[Jove]

I've read some comments by fans that they think this game is going to be the big announcement and how lame that is. First off I didn't realize there was going to be any big announcement, there certainly wasn't any confirmation of that by any of the creators nor was it mentioned in the panel description. Secondly, Mike and Bryan have never whored out any of the video games thus far and have never done a bit of promotion for any of them. They might mention it but I'm sure it'll only be in passing.

I think the best we can possibly hope for is to get physical confirmation that they are trying to develop something new in the Avatar world. Seeing it in interviews is still not enough. And we never got any real confirmation either way for that rumor that they signed for an additional three seasons.


And as for that Aaron Ehasz on KataangForever... I'm now pretty sure it's not him. He's giving some peculiar answers. He keeps saying that he thinks a 4th season is possible (even hinting that it might contain the same characters)... if it's the real Aaron Ehasz, I'm not sure he'd go even that far. And why would he post at a fanforum instead of ASN?

I just remember everyone getting so excited in Spring '07 when a fake Kisu started posting at Distant Horizon. THAT was fucking funny, the chaotic fallout from that.

[Superstarseven]

I just remember everyone getting so excited in Spring '07 when a fake Kisu started posting at Distant Horizon. THAT was fucking funny, the chaotic fallout from that.

I remember that, in fact I'm responsible. I reposted something from a Kung Fu forum he frequents about the start of the season being in 2 weeks...this was in April or May I forget. Apparently he got some really bad info and wanted to set the record straight. That was actually him though. He utilizes the same username for anything online and the truth is...he's a pitbull. He'll defend himself vigorously. Google Lokhopkuen and you'll see the various forums he's registered with. I was also one of the defenders of Greg Baldwin when he started posting on the DH boards before his name was released as the official replacement voice for Mako.

By the way Jove if you've watched the CGI Ninja Turtles movie, you'll notice that Greg gets the lion's share of Splinter's lines in the film. So even though Mako recorded all of his lines before he died, I guess they weren't good enough to include?

*Edit -
Alright I found my original thread
http://distanthorizons.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=trash&action=display&thread=4715&page=1

Apparently Sifu wasn't writing under Lokhopkuen like he usually does but rather Mr Kisu. This is his profile.
http://distanthorizons.proboards31.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=kisu

*2nd Edit
Alright! new info straight from the Avatar page on Nick.com
Here's what happened to Azula
After Zuko defeated her in the Agni Kai, Azula was shipped off to a mental health facility on a nearby island where she is supervised around the clock.
Here's the deal with the Lion Turtle
This is the oldest, most ancient creature in the Avatar world. Lion Turtles existed since the world began, and pre-date the era of the Avatar. This Lion Turtle is the last of his kind. The rest were hunted and killed thousands of years ago. The Lion Turtle possesses timeless wisdom and powerful, spiritual energy. Not all Avatars have met the Lion Turtle. In fact, Aang is the first in many ages.

Because he is so old, a large, overgrown forest has sprouted on the Lion Turtle's back. The Lion Turtle stays hidden from the world because, when submerged, he looks like an ordinary island
.

[Jove]

You know, people often disparage the Nick.com page as being inaccurate and a deficient source, but I've always found it to be an excellent source. There's maybe a few things there that are slightly incorrect.

So you're "Nero" on DH, huh? In my years of reading posts at DH, I've gathered three things: 1.) Nandireya is throughly impressed with her own emotions; 2.) These kids have an appalling paucity of words in their vocabulary; 3.) Fuego is completely unintelligible.

For some reason, I always thought Lokhopkuen was a student of Kisu's that went totally out of his way to defend or support him. The Lokhopkuen DA page... did Kisu really make all those pieces?

I've noticed in my searchings that Kisu is REALLY mercurial and impetuous. It seems like he's had several incidents where he goes berserk, flames the bejesus out of anyone involved, then apologizes later. And by apologize, I mean edit every one of his flames, replacing them with the apology.

[\zol]

Some new music from The Track Teams Myspace from the finale http://www.myspace.com/thetrackteammusicandsound

[Ha-ri]

It's already been posted buddy.

[Jove]

It's already been posted buddy.

Twice, in fact. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png


But it's always nice to see the Wang Fire set.

[\zol]

It's already been posted buddy.

Thanks for the heads up, buddy.

Turtle lions are really cool. Wasn't there a picture of one in The Library episode or something? I need to check.

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/210/341.jpg

[Ha-ri]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png Should've caught that.

Even if some avatars haven't met the Lion Turtles shouldn't they still have all the knowledge of the past avatars, hence knowledge of the lion turtles?

[Superstarseven]

I've noticed in my searchings that Kisu is REALLY mercurial and impetuous. It seems like he's had several incidents where he goes berserk, flames the bejesus out of anyone involved, then apologizes later. And by apologize, I mean edit every one of his flames, replacing them with the apology.

Yeah I've stalked Kisu on forums just hoping I would get a tiny bit more info on the show than the average fan and you've pretty much described how he acts on every message board he's ever been involved with.
You love doing what you do, make good money at it...why the temper?
That is his DA page by the way. Besides flaming fangirls, he enjoys creating some nice CG pieces from time to time.

Also in reference to your earlier comment on Aaron Ehasz answering questions on that message board, I certainly would love it if it were him. He was the damn head writer on the show. It would be the closest thing to constantly keeping a conversation with the creators about the show. If it is a fake account than this person will slip up so bad that he'll have no choice but to end the farce.
We'll see.

[Pimp of Pimps]

Was anything else mentioned about the lion turtles?

[Jove]

Yeah I've stalked Kisu on forums just hoping I would get a tiny bit more info on the show than the average fan and you've pretty much described how he acts on every message board he's ever been involved with.
You love doing what you do, make good money at it...why the temper?
That is his DA page by the way. Besides flaming fangirls, he enjoys creating some nice CG pieces from time to time.

Also in reference to your earlier comment on Aaron Ehasz answering questions on that message board, I certainly would love it if it were him. He was the damn head writer on the show. It would be the closest thing to constantly keeping a conversation with the creators about the show. If it is a fake account than this person will slip up so bad that he'll have no choice but to end the farce.
We'll see.

Hey, do you remember the Pooldude incident I often mention? It began during the beginning of the 10 month hiatus. There was a thread on DH about the possibility of the show continuing beyond Book 3. Pooldude said that Mike and Bryan were staunch in their desire to end the show and do something completely different, and that the crew wanted to continue. He even hinted that the crew resented them for it.

Pooldude's contention was that the crew could continue without Mike and Bryan. That itself seemed ridiculous and disrespectful. And why would Ehasz do that, anyway? Taking over someone else's show without their consent... that's begging to get blacklisted.

But Pooldude then went on about how Mike and Bryan don't actually write the episodes they get credit for, and that those are false writing credits. I had no respect for him before that, but I truly despised him from them on.

The only conclusion I could arrive at was that Pooldude's source, the one leaking episode titles to him, freaked out over the possibility that Mike and Bryan would finish the show for good, and spread some filth. In fact, I'm pretty sure that source of his loathed Mike and Bryan, anyway.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png Should've caught that.

Even if some avatars haven't met the Lion Turtles shouldn't they still have all the knowledge of the past avatars, hence knowledge of the lion turtles?How else did Aang sleepwalk to the LionTurtle? :iria The past Avatars probably caused Aang to swim to the LionTurtle.

Well, I'll tell you this... guess which character design of Zuko they use?

If you guessed Book 1 Zuko, you're correct! colonFACEPALM!!

It looks alright. I've never played anything like this before, but if it's Avatar I'll do it. It's supposed to start Sept. 19.:D::D::D::D: PHAIL! That's pretty much a huge disrespect to Zuko's character development :D: But what do they know? It's a fighting game :D:

[Jove]

How else did Aang sleepwalk to the LionTurtle? :iria The past Avatars probably caused Aang to swim to the LionTurtle.

:D::D::D::D: PHAIL! That's pretty much a huge disrespect to Zuko's character development :D: But what do they know? It's a fighting game :D:

Not only that, it's also Book 1 Katara. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png


They've been working with their 2005 marketing strategy since 2004.

[Superstarseven]

In fact, I'm pretty sure that source of his loathed Mike and Bryan, anyway.

Which is why...he had no problem leaking episode titles in the first place.
I'm sure the crew knew what they were getting into, if they wanted job security then Spongebob's offices are down the hall. But seriously, Mike and Bryan don't write the episodes they're credited for? I have a huge problem with that. Wow if that were true then it would illicit the same reaction I got when I found out Bob Kane was a credit-hogging plagiarist who had no problem with revising history to make it seem like he was the sole genius behind Batman.

[ReikaiDemon]

Not only that, it's also Book 1 Katara. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png


They've been working with their 2005 marketing strategy since 2004.Idiots don't know when to give up. They probably expected that Avatar was a non-linear cartoon that stays consistent from ep 1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Ha-ri]

Character Development?! Zuku?! Pssshh people please he's the same old fire nation brat who wants to reclaim his honor and approval from his father, the people making games know this and are sticking true to his character.
[/sarcasm]

[Jove]

Edit:

Too Lazy to check back pages so I'm just gonna post it here,



Source (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nickelodeon-to-launch-avatar-the-last-airbender-mmo-in-september/?biz=1)

Never heard of the site till just now, but whatever It'd be nice to see.

Eeee, I missed this one. Bad repost. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Ha-ri]

Been getting alot of repeat posts, It should just be complied and so Its easily accessible.

[Michael Jacksőn]

I've down at the Library for a couple of days, to see what was up.

Damn, tards are storming it like you've never seen.

All kinds. Uchiha and Minato are the ones controlling it right now. Just waiting for GB to show up, then the mods can get involved.

[Ha-ri]

^ this is a thread about avatar, not naruo or the a naruto board. If you have a complaint take it up in Questions & Complaints. (http://forums.narutofan.com:80/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

[\zol]

Please tell me there's a live stream to today's comic-con? I really don't care about the video too much, just some decent audio.

[Ha-ri]

I've tried looking, I got a couple streams from booths but nothing impressive.

[Jove]

Alright, here's a compilation for those just joining us:

1.) The Track Team has put up some of the music from the finale on their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/thetrackteammusicandsound

2.) You can download these pieces over at Waterbender.com:
http://water-bender.com/audio/

3.) Nickelodeon will be launching an MMO game on September 15th called Legends of the Arena: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nickelodeon-to-launch-avatar-the-last-airbender-mmo-in-september/?biz=1

4.) A preview of it can be seen here: http://www.nick.com/turbonick/index.jhtml?extvideoid=97362

5.) A person who may or may not be head writer Aaron Ehasz is answering fan questions over at the Kataang Forever forums: http://www.kataangforever.net/forum/index.php?topic=13794.0

[Empress banned dupe]

im not sure if it has been mentioned but has anyone seen the movie? Sozin's comet

[Ha-ri]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Empress banned dupe]

im guessing its already been mentioned in the past?

[Gunners]

Character Development?! Zuku?! Pssshh people please he's the same old fire nation brat who wants to reclaim his honor and approval from his father, the people making games know this and are sticking true to his character.
Are you being serious?

[Taurus Versant]

Nicely said, Ha.

So how many hours till this panel?

[Ha-ri]

Nicely said, Ha.

So how many hours till this panel?

Heres what the Comic-Con Site says:


Friday, July 25

7:30-9:15 Nickelodeon Avatar: Sozin's Comet— Executive producer and creator team Bryan Konietzko and Mike DiMartino have built one of the most astonishingly complex and beautifully animated series in television with Nickelodeon's Avatar: The Last Airbender. Join Bryan, Mike, and Avatar director Joaquim Dos Santos (G.I. Joe Microseries) for a viewing of the exciting back-half of the Avatar season finale, "Sozin's Comet: Into the Inferno" and "Sozin's Comet: Avatar Aang," followed by a Q&A with the team as they discuss the rich mythology of the series, as well as a costume contest and fan art contest! Moderated by Roland Poindexter, VP, Nickelodeon original programming, animation. Room 6CDEF

About 2 hours.

[Taurus Versant]

Wonder what will come of it...

[masterriku]

I wonder if that T.V not entirely for gamers channel will show something about the panel.

[ReikaiDemon]

Wonder what will come of it...
It'll be Sozin's Comet for rabid Zutaraians :zaru

[Empress banned dupe]

wut is this panel that u guys r talking bout

[Taurus Versant]

It'll be Sozin's Comet for rabid Zutaraians :zaru

Better not be :sun

I'll raid the panel and take down everyone causing trouble.

[ReikaiDemon]

wut is this panel that u guys r talking boutWell, the creators of Avatar answer questions fans ask them at comiccon

[ReikaiDemon]

Better not be :sun

I'll raid the panel and take down everyone causing trouble.
Take their shipping bending away :zaru

[Empress banned dupe]

hmmm thank u but y do they call it a panel?

[\zol]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png Totally forgot about the timezones... :<


Empress: The panel is the conference the creators of Avatar will be having

[Empress banned dupe]

oo i thought panel as in a manga panel or something lol

[Taurus Versant]

Take their shipping bending away :zaru

*blocks their Chi* :LOS

[masterriku]

Take their shipping bending away :zaru

I second this

[ReikaiDemon]

Tarsus shall be our Avatar :LOS

[Taurus Versant]

I approve. :edu

Though I think Jove is this thread's Avatar. He's the one who's synonymous with the thread.

I'll be one of the Avatar's warriors. Reikai and I will go around, purging the world of shipping fools to prepare the way for the Avatar. :awesome

[Ha-ri]

Anyone find a live stream?

[Superrazien]

So whats going on with this panel? When does it start? or is it up already.

[Kira-chan]

*2nd Edit
Alright! new info straight from the Avatar page on Nick.com
Here's what happened to Azula
After Zuko defeated her in the Agni Kai, Azula was shipped off to a mental health facility on a nearby island where she is supervised around the clock.
Here's the deal with the Lion Turtle
This is the oldest, most ancient creature in the Avatar world. Lion Turtles existed since the world began, and pre-date the era of the Avatar. This Lion Turtle is the last of his kind. The rest were hunted and killed thousands of years ago. The Lion Turtle possesses timeless wisdom and powerful, spiritual energy. Not all Avatars have met the Lion Turtle. In fact, Aang is the first in many ages.

Because he is so old, a large, overgrown forest has sprouted on the Lion Turtle's back. The Lion Turtle stays hidden from the world because, when submerged, he looks like an ordinary island.
It's also got some information on "Energybending."
The Lion Turtle teaches Aang a technique available only to the Avatar: the ability to take away someone's bending. Only a very few Avatars have ever learned this technique and even fewer have used it, for it is very dangerous to do. In order to bend another's energy, an Avatar's own energy must be pure and unbendable. If not, the enemy's corrupted energy can take over the Avatar's energy and kill him. Ozai's bad, red energy nearly overtakes Aang's good, white energy, but Aang, being a pure, uncorrupted being, was able to overcome it and take Ozai's bending away.

[Kaenboshi]

It's supposed to start in a few minutes (7:30 PDT). No idea about anything as far as a live stream.

[Superstarseven]

Why do these Zutarians insist on saying that Aang found a "magical" way entering the Avatar State by not letting go of Katara.
Aang said before the Invasion, and I quote
When Azula shot me with lightning, my 7th chakra was locked, cutting off my connection to all the cosmic energy in the Universe.

The rock was able to unlock it therefore completing the process. Yes he did let Katara go. Why do I defend this? It's very simple.

[Taurus Versant]

I appreciate that Nick site for confirmation on Azula.

Also, increasing the odds of Hannibal Lecter Azula.

[ReikaiDemon]

Why do these Zutarians insist on saying that Aang found a "magical" way entering the Avatar State by not letting go of Katara.
Aang said before the Invasion, and I quote


The rock was able to unlock it therefore completing the process. Yes he did let Katara go. Why do I defend this? It's very simple.Extreme yoga rock :hehee

I appreciate that Nick site for confirmation on Azula.

Also, increasing the odds of Hannibal Lecter Azula.I'm starting to nurse the idea of Azula in a padded room now, saying stuff like cakes that are lies...Except cherries instead of cake :zaru
"The pit is a lie......The pit is a lie....."
*Zuko knocks* "Time for dinner Azula!"
"THEPITISALIETHEPITISALIETHEPITISALIE!!!"
"....I love you too Azula..."*slips food through slot, and hauls ass*

[Taurus Versant]

That rock just backs up a universal truth.

If you have a problem and violence doesn't solve it, you're not using enough violence. :zaru

[ReikaiDemon]

That rock just backs up a universal truth.

If you have a problem and violence doesn't solve it, you're not using enough violence. :zaru
Violence is yummy :zaru
Like fresh, crisp pineapple
Except that pineapple is red inside, and screams if you chew through it's gray matter :zaru
Plus it's not a pineapple :LOS:LOS:LOS

[Koi]

Man, I wish G4 had any sort of interest in Avatar, that way we wouldn't be stressing over this thing and they'd just report on it. :\

[Taurus Versant]

Violence is yummy :zaru
Like fresh, crisp pineapple
Except that pineapple is red inside, and screams if you chew through it's gray matter :zaru
Plus it's not a pineapple :LOS:LOS:LOS

Truly, I have never received greater words of wisdom, than being in your presence. :zaru

[Kaenboshi]

It's not that surprising considering how much G4 sucks. Seriously, I saw most of their coverage, and it was downright pitiful.

[ReikaiDemon]

Man, I wish G4 had any sort of interest in Avatar, that way we wouldn't be stressing over this thing and they'd just report on it. :\
Why G4? :D: :D: :D:
They still killed TechTV :notrust
Plus they have no interest in Avatar, so, they suck :sag
Also, I can't get G4 on my cable anymore, best thing that happened to my tv before Sozin's Comet :thumbs
Anyone else find it weird they called it a comet and not a meteor or asteroid?

[Seto Kaiba]

It's not that surprising considering how much G4 sucks. Seriously, I saw most of their coverage, and it was downright pitiful.

I remember seeing last year's coverage on G4...found out NOTHING!!! I had to go online to get good info on it.

[Kaenboshi]

I also swear watching it knocked off some brain cells and killed some IQ points.

[ReikaiDemon]

I also swear watching it knocked off some brain cells and killed some IQ points.
Or course, compared to the bomb they dropped on TechTV, I've lost much more than watching it.
Though, that's not to say I don't care about the cells I lost after trying to catch the maddeningly gutted X-Play. Sorta like comparing a bleeding gut to a grenade to the chest.Death of TTV being the grenade, and watching G4 is your slowly bleeding gut :zaru
Oh well, now it's a graveyard for dead reality shows, and widjits...

[Noah]

Just wanna check something:

The Avatar MMO is using the Book One design for Zuko, right? And this game is set at a time slightly before the story starts?

....why are we whining about Zuko's design then?

[Jove]

That rock just backs up a universal truth.

If you have a problem and violence doesn't solve it, you're not using enough violence. :zaru

That rock simply reaffirms a simple truth: Aang is the anti-Uchiha.

And thank you for the kind words, Taur.

Though I think Jove is this thread's Avatar. He's the one who's synonymous with the thread.

I shall be Avatar Jove-ku. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Koi]

It's not that surprising considering how much G4 sucks. Seriously, I saw most of their coverage, and it was downright pitiful.
Yeah. I was watching some of it last night, and I still don't know what I was supposed to have learned.

Their E3 coverage was okay though. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. It was okay.
Why G4? :D: :D: :D:
They still killed TechTV :notrust
Plus they have no interest in Avatar, so, they suck :sag
Also, I can't get G4 on my cable anymore, best thing that happened to my tv before Sozin's Comet :thumbs
Anyone else find it weird they called it a comet and not a meteor or asteroid?
I'll be honest-- the only show I really watch on G4 is AotS. I love Olivia and Kevin. Kevin is such an adorable little bitch. :3

And yeah, I actually thought the same thing. Isn't a comet actually like.. made out of ice?

[Jove]

Just wanna check something:

The Avatar MMO is using the Book One design for Zuko, right? And this game is set at a time slightly before the story starts?

....why are we whining about Zuko's design then?

Because it's time for a change. He's not in the game as "slightly before canon" Zuko. If that was the case, why would Aang be in the game? Zuko's in the game simply as Zuko. Who identifies Zuko with the topknot and uniform anymore? He hasn't looked like that in over two and a half years.

[ReikaiDemon]

That rock simply reaffirms a simple truth: Aang is the anti-Uchiha.

And thank you for the kind words, Taur.



I shall be Avatar Jove-ku. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png
Yes :LOS And the sun is out, the moon is full, there are FIVE comets/meteors, and the air pressure is just right :LOS
And there's black meteor metal everywhere :LOS
Plus I jammed a stick in your back :LOS

[Taurus Versant]

That rock simply reaffirms a simple truth: Aang is the anti-Uchiha.

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Also, Reikai, your simile and metaphor today is superb. I declare you awesome. :awesome

[ReikaiDemon]

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Also, Reikai, your simile and metaphor today is superb. I declare you awesome. :awesome
I'm the badass normal with double guandaos and halberds :LOS

[Noah]

Because it's time for a change. He's not in the game as "slightly before canon" Zuko. If that was the case, why would Aang be in the game? Zuko's in the game simply as Zuko. Who identifies Zuko with the topknot and uniform anymore? He hasn't looked like that in over two and a half years.

So wait. I thought I read prequel in there somewhere. Why would Aang be in it then? I'm so goddamn confused. I need a outline of what this game is, exactly.

[Taurus Versant]

I'm not even sure the game makes sense. It's probably just an arena brawl.

[Koi]

I'm looking forward to the character customization, honestly. I don't wanna play as an already established character anyway.

[Noah]

...and why the hell is it arena based? I want a goddamn Avatar game that actually fits the world that's been created.

I say boo on this game. Give me 2.5d fighter.

[Jove]

...and why the hell is it arena based? I want a goddamn Avatar game that actually fits the world that's been created.

I say boo on this game. Give me 2.5d fighter.

I'm with you... wouldn't it be awesome to just roam around the Avatar world in such a game? Maybe find an Eel hound or ostrich horse and jet across the the Earth Kingdom. Walk the streets of the lower ring of Ba Sing Se, explore the bazaars of the Fire Nation, hike up to the Air Temples...

[ReikaiDemon]

I'm with you... wouldn't it be awesome to just roam around the Avatar world in such a game? Maybe find an Eel hound or ostrich horse and jet across the the Earth Kingdom. Walk the streets of the lower ring of Ba Sing Se, explore the bazaars of the Fire Nation, hike up to the Air Temples...
And the girls of Ba Sing Se are quite the kissers :LOS

[Randomaxe]

I echo all the satisfaction, that all have stated about this final. Great characters, good plot, and only a few loose ends Zukos mother and what happened to Azula? To those who believe that this is similar to Naruto: Please wake up. For my part, I hope kisi watches this and takes some notes, because right now Naruto plods and trips over itself more than it brings the story along.

[kakoishii]

I'm with you... wouldn't it be awesome to just roam around the Avatar world in such a game? Maybe find an Eel hound or ostrich horse and jet across the the Earth Kingdom. Walk the streets of the lower ring of Ba Sing Se, explore the bazaars of the Fire Nation, hike up to the Air Temples...

I know right, I suggested that SAME thing several, several pages ago. Just make it free roam RPG style, a world like avatar is absolutely perfect for that game style. But NOOO, they keep dropping the ball and giving us crappy games no one wanted.

[ZeroBlack]

Not sure if this has been posted before or if anybody knows what i'm talking about, but if anybody else has seen the preview of this new show that's coming on nickolodean [sp], do ya think this is a rip-off of naruto? Besides it not being about ninjas, there is a similarity in a 12 year old boy whose special, is an airbender, has special wind powers, 4 nations of villages or so [fire, wind, earth, and water], and that there happens to be an evil nation [the fire country] trying to destroy the rest of everything or something. there was more details in the commercial that resembles naruto, but i have forgotten them. Am i the only one?

Aang is 112 actually.
He was an airbender long before Naruto started going into elemental affinities.
Naruto world has 5 nations.
Sound is a bad nation, but the real antagonists are Akatsuki which is made up of missing ninjas from a lot of villages, not one.

[Taurus Versant]

To be perfectly honest, games like that take a lot of effort, and Nickelodean don't like effort.

[squirrelnacht]

^ZeroBlack, you realize that's a three year old post right? Much has changed in those intervening years...

I know right, I suggested that SAME thing several, several pages ago. Just make it free roam RPG style, a world like avatar is absolutely perfect for that game style. But NOOO, they keep dropping the ball and giving us crappy games no one wanted.
Oh pish posh why spend time making a good, balanced, and interesting game when you can put out a cheap simple load of crap and make about as much money.

[ReikaiDemon]

To be perfectly honest, games like that take a lot of effort, and Nickelodean don't like effort.
Like that's a surprise :zaru

[Jove]

There's a wild rumor flying around that they announced that there will be a Book 4: Air. This is almost certainly false. I wouldn't be surprised if nothing substantial came out of this panel, honestly.

[ReikaiDemon]

^ZeroBlack, you realize that's a three year old post right? Much has changed in those intervening years.


Oh pish posh why spend time making a good, balanced, and interesting game when you can put out a cheap simple load of crap and make about as much money.
And they have a name for those kind of games, shovelware :sag

[Jove]

The new rumor is that it wasn't a real announcement; it was a fake/gag reel that was done as a joke to look like there would be a Book 4. That seems borderline cruel... that's just Mike and Bryan laughing at us, if it's true.

[Kaenboshi]

So... How long before someone who was there says anything?

[masterriku]

I really think oldman dime(jk) should change the content of the First post.
It conflicts with his current opinon vastly.

[Superstarseven]

And yeah, I actually thought the same thing. Isn't a comet actually like.. made out of ice?

Sure it is. Through modern science we have been able to figure that out. That's not what Mike and Bryan were going for in this story though.
Read this -
http://deepimpact.umd.edu/science/comets-cultures.html

[Taurus Versant]

Plus Sozin's Meteor or Sozin's Asteroid doesn't have the same ring to it. :zaru

[ReikaiDemon]

Plus Sozin's Meteor or Sozin's Asteroid doesn't have the same ring to it. :zaru
To add, it's just too damn easy to make fun of Sozin's Asteroid :zaru

[Superstarseven]

Ok someone on Capslock Zutara wrote a summary of the panel and apparently no big announcements were made concerning the future of the Avatar world.
You can read it yourself and then possibly translate it for me because I can't understand this gobbledygook.

http://community.livejournal.com/capslock_zutara/219207.html

There was some Zutara bashing I believe? Then again Zutarians hold their ship so dear that they can't take a joke so I'd rather see this for myself.

[Superrazien]

^ Wtf I couldn't understand that.

[Taurus Versant]

Total lulz rant.

I love Zutarians. I always feel so superior after hanging around them.

[Koi]

Lol, I understand they want to remain faithful to their ship, but.. it sunk. :zaru I'm thinkin' they need to get over it. (And embrace multi-ships!)

[ReikaiDemon]

Total lulz rant.

I love Zutarians. I always feel so superior after hanging around them.
Yes, it's like hanging around with the sheep who believes in Fox News :zaru
ABANDON SHIP!
And yes, EMBRACE POLYGAMOUS SHIPS!

[Kira-chan]

I've never been a Zutarian, but I'll admit to having had some Taang leanings... :ninja :hoho

[Koi]

Lol, what's the phrase? 'Like rats aboard a sinking ship'? :hehee

I honestly shipped pretty much everyone in Avatar. I knew Zutara wouldn't happen, but it's still a nice thought. As was Tokka, the ship that actually got me into the show. And then I saw Suki! And Sokka became a Grandmaster Pimp.

[\zol]

Zutarian tears are quite delicious. Anyway I guess there's still hope for tomorrow at least.

[Taurus Versant]

The souls of Zutarians make an excellent meal.

All that false hope.

[Koi]

And wangst.

[Superstarseven]

Wangst is a good word for it.

Anyway time for something a little more coherent about the panel-
http://ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com/348324.html

This is a little more interesting since it's a voice post.
It's something.
To summarize, she's thanking the fans for not being assholes which of course referring to the rumored Zutarian rebellion that we've all been hearing about. Also this Book 4: air thing seems like a fun little thing that they whipped up, I guess we'll see it popping up on Youtube in the near future.

*Edit - Man I am absolutely loving Avatarspirit.net right now. They are absolutely blasting the crazy Zutarians from that first link I posted. It has to done, they've got a stranglehold on this fandom and they really need to go away.

[Taurus Versant]

I don't think I'll be watching it.

It reeks of crack baiting. Which is good if you're meant to suffer, but I'm not. :zaru

[Jove]

Ok someone on Capslock Zutara wrote a summary of the panel and apparently no big announcements were made concerning the future of the Avatar world.
You can read it yourself and then possibly translate it for me because I can't understand this gobbledygook.

http://community.livejournal.com/capslock_zutara/219207.html

There was some Zutara bashing I believe? Then again Zutarians hold their ship so dear that they can't take a joke so I'd rather see this for myself.

This is why I not only avoid capslock, but genuinely abhor it.

[ReikaiDemon]

I've never been a Zutarian, but I'll admit to having had some Taang leanings... :ninja :hoho
Awwww, Taang <3 It's got a cute angle, and a yin and yang angle X3
Zutarian tears are quite delicious. Anyway I guess there's still hope for tomorrow at least.

The souls of Zutarians make an excellent meal.

All that false hope.

And wangst.Hey now, eating Zutaraians are illegal :zaru They're an endangered species, in which we need to preserve for future generations so we can turn them into oil, or some shit like that. I dunno, never paid that much attention to that kind of stuff.

Though, with all due respect, it's not that I hate the Zutara ship altogether, I just hate the rabid fans who curse the entire series for not making it canon. I mean come on, it's supposed to be a font of entertainment and enjoyment, if Avatar gives you grief because it didn't make your preferred ship canon, then you fail at having fun, and need to be blasted in the head by the canon cannon. lulz, wordplay.

Anyways, lets post some fucking cute fanart! :iria
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/296/716ccaa6c72850a6d9ec4634c5f692c4586dfe55.jpghttp://img2.gelbooru.com//images/240/80599f10c907dc3c6ad03cccc778c557d00d6392.jpghttp://img2.gelbooru.com//images/5/6b9fe29f7b5377afb70f3735f6d21fd888da3059.pnghttp://img2.gelbooru.com//images/282/d31010c98447981ed4dd7a6ee7262411a49e28a2.jpgREPOST TEIM!!!oneone11!!
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/171/16e2184ff29b9f831507bc42dc3b396ee84a059d.jpghttp://img2.gelbooru.com//images/240/87c2e60f89399d70d4daf019af803065ca19931a.jpg

[Taurus Versant]

Toph tarding is good, she's more than awesome enough.

Baby Toph is adorable overload brain busting cuteness :iria

[ReikaiDemon]

Toph tarding is good, she's more than awesome enough.

Baby Toph is adorable overload brain busting cuteness :iria
When you have baby Toph fanart, there's no need for a shotgun! :zaru :LOS :zaru :LOS :zaru

[Taurus Versant]

If it works it works.

*fansplode*

[ReikaiDemon]

*cue montage of the panels of this fanart, over which, a voice narrates the following*
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/296/716ccaa6c72850a6d9ec4634c5f692c4586dfe55.jpg
Who knew that little Toph would grow up to be the most feared warlord of all time?
None survived her reign, her name cast off, there was only one name she answered to...

A&E's Melon Lord Special

Little knew that such a precious child would soon take place as one of the most feared figures in history. The mere mention of her title would simultaneously trigger the loss of bowel and bladder function within a five mile radius. We tracked down Toph, the actual Melon Lord, through our A&E Time machine. Why? BECAUSE WE'RE MOTHERF@#%ING A&E DAMMIT, NOW SIT DOWN AND EAT YOUR DAMN GRITS! Damn snakes all up and down MY plane....MY DIMENSIONAL PLANE!
*mic boom squeals, various camera crew and interns try to calm Samuel L. Jackson down, YES SAMUEL L. F@#$ING JACKSON, on A&E no less, hosting this special*
"Sammy! Sammy! Sammy! C-calm down Sammy..."
"DON'T YOU F*#@ING CALL ME SAMMY,MOTHERF$#%ER!"
*cuts to commercial break, then Connie Chung takes over*
Ahem, we went back in time in our A&E brand timemachine to ancient China, of course, this wasn't our China, let's just say, the China of Middle Earth, whilst Lord of the Rings hooey and hobbits happened on the otherside of the planet, Melon Lord takes the continents in a storm of bloody, melony goodness. We managed to find the actual Melon Lord, in which, using our A&E powers of negotiation, sat her down with an interview.
"So, when did you, yourself, decide to rule the world as Melon Lord, Toph?"
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7016/melonlordtextfullca9.gif
She merely roared her infamous title with so much fervor and cadence, that it-SHOOK THE MOTHERF#$%ING EARTH OUT OF ORBIT!
"Oh s@#$! Samuel L. Jackson got out!"
"DON'T YOU MOTHERF@#$ERS KNOW THERE AIN'T NO F@#$ING TRANQUILIZER IN THE WORLD THAT CAN PUT ME DOWN?!?!"
*Scene cuts back to interview footage, William Shatner takes over*
Yes...Where WERe we?...Oh....Right...THE INTERview...MELon Lord....SCREamed out her....INFAMOus title...And PROceDED to....SLAUGHTER....The entire...CAMERA crew...
*shows Melon Lord massacring the A&E crew, after they're all finished by Melon Lord, Toph glares menacingly off-center at the camera, and kills the camera*
Good thing...THEY were...INterns...*makes stupid chuckles, lulz* BUt it took.....FORtee...TEams....To RETRIEve the fOOTage...
*sobs*
NA-ow...When WE RETURn....*Drops to one knee, in KAAAAAAAAHN!!! pose, and screams* TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPH!!!!
*show abruptly cuts away*

[Taurus Versant]

Winingness. :LOS

~~~

Anyone think this would make the most epic Avatar AMV ever? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7DXLFsgI8

[ReikaiDemon]

Ah, fuck, the stupid forums messed up, and cut my post....

[Taurus Versant]

I could see it all before.

How odd.

[ReikaiDemon]

I could see it all before.

How odd.
K, fixed :zaru

[Jove]

Here's a very low quality, often unintelligible crowd-vid of the infamous "Book 4: Air, Chapter One: Forbidden Love" piece:

FX6zWBQRXvA


I guess it's alright. Certainly not worth all the fuss, though. Still waiting upon a more detailed report of the Q&A, but it seems like this panel was pretty much just the screening of final two episodes and not much else.

[masterriku]

And one would think that would be plenty to stop the zutarans but by the look of it's not.

[ReikaiDemon]

I hate it when people just won't quiet the fuck down at cons D: They really need some damn rules of conduct for viewings and panels like that.

But damn it, that was fucking priceless and hilarious.
The voice acting was like a bad porn movie XD
ANGZULA FO THE WEEN!

[Superstarseven]

I quite enjoyed that.

"OMG Bryke...EPIC FAIL, EPIC FAIL...I AM SO DONE WITH AVATAR AND BRYKE, F*** THEM IN THE F***** ASS."

Shut the hell up already. Mountains out of molehills anyone?

[The Cheat]

I wonder what they revealed at the panel.

[Superstarseven]

Ok this is a straight reposting from Toon Zone...

Toon Zone sat in on the panel for Nickelodeon's Avatar the Last Airbender, which was dominated by a screening of parts 3 and 4 of the "Sozin's Comet" season finale. In attendance were show co-creators Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko, and director Joaquim Dos Santos. The panel was moderated by Roland Poindexter, VP Original Programming, Animation.

The screening received a standing ovation from the audience, and the panelists noted that 5.6 million people watched the last episode of Avatar. They added that the series will be run in order on Nicktoons very soon, and stated that this is not the last time Avatar will have a panel at Comic-Con. In response to a question, the creators confirmed that the skill learned from the lion turtle can be performed more than once.

They set out to make a show that they wanted to watch and worked for kids, teenagers and adults. The show was also always designed to be a trilogy.

They're working to get a soundtrack to the show released, but there's nothing confirmed yet.

An audience member asked if there was any truth to the rumor that they were signed for six seasons. Bryan confirmed this rumor was false, although there was a parody "Book 4: Air" trailer shown that used badly animated fan art from the Internet.

An audience member asked if they would ever resolve where Zuko's mother is, and was told that they hope to some day.

The live-action movie is also to be a straight re-interpretation of Book 1.

You're not gonna get any more than that so there you go.

[ReikaiDemon]

I quite enjoyed that.

"OMG Bryke...EPIC FAIL, EPIC FAIL...I AM SO DONE WITH AVATAR AND BRYKE, F*** THEM IN THE F***** ASS."

Shut the hell up already. Mountains out of molehills anyone?
I agree, it's entertainment, if it makes you angry, either it sucks, or you're doing it wrong.
Avatar doesn't suck, so, the only reason left is that rabid Zutaraians are doing it wrong :zaru

[Jove]

I wonder what they revealed at the panel.

Basically, nothing. Nobody asked anything worthwhile, I've heard. I'll quote someone from ASN:

Q: Will there be more Avatar? What's going to happen to the airbenders?
A: It is finished, there will be no book 4:Air. The show is called "the last airbender"

Q: I love the music. Will there be a soundtrack?
A: We would love to do a soundtrack. We've tried convincing Nickelodeon to do a soundtrack. Would you like to see a soundtrack? (Lots of applause)

Q: Did you ever feel censored or limited by having to make a children's show?
A: Not really. We knew we were making a show for kids. There were a couple times when we were told "no" by the network but nothing major.

Q: Will you ever answer Where is Zuko's Mother?
A: Actually, Joaquim Dos Santos had storyboarded the scene where Zuko does finally meet his mother. But it had to be cut from the final version


I can't believe it. The Book 4 question was the one question I did NOT want answered. Book 4 implies another season of The Last Airbender. They can easily refute that. If they had been asked if there would be future seasons of Avatarwith a different story, there might have actually been a noteworthy answer. Or at least something to give us hope. We're no better off than we were before the panel.

It also seems like left no time for the Q&A once again, even though that's all anyone really cares about with these things.

[Mider T]

Zutarians: It wasn't canon! No it wasn't! We-WELL we'll just make our own show! and it'll be better than yours! You'll see! YOU'LL ALL SEE!:argh

Us: Hey look Avatar's on.

Zutarians: We're a threat, pay attention to us!

[Seto Kaiba]

Here's a very low quality, often unintelligible crowd-vid of the infamous "Book 4: Air, Chapter One: Forbidden Love" piece:

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I guess it's alright. Certainly not worth all the fuss, though. Still waiting upon a more detailed report of the Q&A, but it seems like this panel was pretty much just the screening of final two episodes and not much else.

That was hilarious.

[ReikaiDemon]

Basically, nothing. Nobody asked anything worthwhile, I've heard. I'll quote someone from ASN:




I can't believe it. The Book 4 question was the one question I did NOT want answered. Book 4 implies another season of The Last Airbender. They can easily refute that. If they had been asked if there would be future seasons of Avatarwith a different story, there might have actually been a noteworthy answer. Or at least something to give us hope. We're no better off than we were before the panel.

It also seems like left no time for the Q&A once again, even though that's all anyone really cares about with these things.So I guess they won't make a show on Aang or something. It sounds like that Avatar might air something, but it'll be a new series, or something. Hopefully, those features to tie up all the loose ends, it would be crazy not to, considering all the open ended things they dropped along the series, it definitely isn't neglectful writing. They purposely opened up lots of ends.

Zutarians: It wasn't canon! No it wasn't! We-WELL we'll just make our own show! and it'll be better than yours! You'll see! YOU'LL ALL SEE!:argh

Us: Hey look Avatar's on.

Zutarians: We're a threat, pay attention to us!

:zaru :zaru :zaru
Zutaraians:O-oh yeah? We'll make a better series! With blackjack, and hookers!

[Mider T]

:blinditachi

[ReikaiDemon]

:blinditachi
That Itachi emote there looks like Kitaniji-san :3

[Mider T]

I need one like that (code :midert) that has the banana in my sig pimpslapping someone.

[The Cheat]

Will they explain what happened to ursa or not? That's the one that people bitched about the finale the most.

[Jove]

Will they explain what happened to ursa or not? That's the one that people bitched about the finale the most.

At this point, who knows? They never answered the question, according to the report I quoted. They simply said it was storyboarded, but never made it past that stage. If they're going to address it in the future is uncertain.

However, they did say that they were going to try to find a way to clear up some of the loose ends.

Today they are doing a signing from 1 PM to 3 PM, west coast time. Hopefully someone can ask better questions about future seasons, loose ends, and the mini-episodes, and get the info out.

[Koi]

Oh man, that video was hysterical. xD I think that confirms that Bryke had a nice big laugh at all the Zutarian waangst.

[Superstarseven]

Well here's the Q&A in full.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJ2IVLGcbo

[Iria]

I won't say that I denounce the show, ever.

I love avatar.

But christ, making fun of fans? :S




Oh wells, still excited for any future material we see from the avatar world :high

[Superstarseven]

I won't say that I denounce the show, ever.

I love avatar.

But christ, making fun of fans? :S


It's not as serious as you make it out to be though.
A lot of people had a good laugh out of it.

[Jove]

Yup, exactly as I figured. They asked about another season for Aang's story, and not the possibility of more seasons with different stories. God damn it. They've been explicitly clear that there was not going to be a Book 4: Air.

[Iria]

It's not as serious as you make it out to be though.
A lot of people had a good laugh out of it.

no its pretty blatantly making fun of fans rofl :lmao

maybe its funny but its still like biting the hand that feeds you

Yup, exactly as I figured. They asked about another season for Aang's story, and not the possibility of more seasons with different stories. God damn it. They've been explicitly clear that there was not going to be a Book 4: Air.

but they keep intimating at more

the series is so popular i would seriously be shocked if they just did nothing

[Koi]

I won't say that I denounce the show, ever.

I love avatar.

But christ, making fun of fans? :S


I think it's the fans who took the show too seriously in the first place. They forgot it was a kids show. Granted, it's one of the most well thought out, planned, and animated kids shows like, ever, but too many people lost sight of that and focused on solely pairings. Bryke knew that. They had fun with the show and with the panel.

[Superstarseven]

It all comes down to who has a sense of humor about this. This wasn't a video of Mike and Bryan staring into the camera laughing and saying " You silly Zutarians". That's certainly biting the hand that feeds them but regardless I don't think Zutara bought them their two new houses.

Either way...let's move on. Why would there be a book 4: Air?
They said that they were working on ideas for a new incarnation of the Avatar story, couldn't someone have asked about that?

[Koi]

(Biting the hand that feeds would be if the angry Zutarians actually did have their little 'uprising' or whatnot at the panel. That's not only ungrateful, but disrespectful too.)

Wait, is the Avatar MMO gonna be like, free? Pay once? Pay to play?

[Jove]

no its pretty blatantly making fun of fans rofl :lmao

maybe its funny but its still like biting the hand that feeds you



but they keep intimating at more

the series is so popular i would seriously be shocked if they just did nothing

That's what's so frustrating. It's been absolutely clear that Book: 4 Air was fan delusion. But there's been several interviews where Mike and Bryan have hinted that they're attempting to develop a new story. They've been nebulous, though. I want real, vocalized confirmation.

If it was just kids asking these questions, I'd relent. But these were clearly older, insufferably long-winded and scatterbrained, super-fans. This should have been question #1.

As far as making fun of the fans, I agree, actually. Everyone knows how bonkers Zutarians are, and there's always been enough in the show for them to think that Bryke is toying with them. This was essentially instigation.

Worth it for the joke, though. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Super Mike]

We're pushin 500:gar

[Noah]

Nothing wrong with mocking silly fans when silly fans need mocking. Especially when it's too late for their silly idea to come true and they still hold on to it like it's fact (read: Zutara).

Also: Why the hell is anyone asking about a Book Four when it clearly says "The End" at the end of Book Three? Isn't that obvious enough?

[ReikaiDemon]

I'd say the Zutaraians are biting the hand that feeds them, other than the other way around. :zaru

[Suzume]

I'd say the Zutaraians are biting the hand that feeds them, other than the other way around. :zaru

Why do you say that? People are entitled to like something different than canon. It's not really an attack on Mike and Bryan to not like the main pairing.

But mainly I'm happy that they finally confirmed that Jet died. At least he's in hot guy heaven and not burning in hot guy hell.