Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[LIL_M0]

So in terms of earthbending who takes the cake:
- Iron Toph
- Bumi the city bender
- Aang (non-AS) bending the pillars of rock and stuff
Neither. When Aang fought "Sparky Sparky Boom Man" (I love that name :laugh), he used earthbending to make a suit of diamonds. :edu

[Narcissus]

Addmittedly, the ending wasn't 100% fulfilling. Much was left unanswered - I wanted to know what happened to Azula, see Zuko's mother, find out exactly what the plot was she came up with to make Ozai the Fire Lord and save Zuko. But really, the ending was decent, and overall the series was amazing for Nick, and I'll miss it.

[Yulwei]

Neither. When Aang fought "Sparky Sparky Boom Man" (I love that name :laugh), he used earthbending to make a suit of diamonds. :edu

He did that against Azula. Vs Combustion Man he used regular old rock. Anyway rock/jewel armour is easier than metal armour because the former are regular old earth which any earthbender can bend including Toph.

[LIL_M0]

He did that against Azula. Vs Combustion Man he used regular old rock.
Oh yeah, it was before he got shot by lightning. :imslow
Anyway rock/jewel armour is easier than metal armour because the former are regular old earth which any earthbender can bend including Toph.Yeah but wearing a suit of diamond looks cooler than a suit of armor.

*roars like a tiger-dillo

[Yulwei]

Hmmm, perhaps. Is it me or did Toph get shafted in that epilogue. Would it have been so hard to do something as simple as having her recieve a letter from her parents. She wouldn't even need to open it just recieving it would make a better end than her hasving no resolution at all. Even her Zuko fieldtrip did nothing for her

[Noah]

Addmittedly, the ending wasn't 100% fulfilling. Much was left unanswered - I wanted to know what happened to Azula, see Zuko's mother, find out exactly what the plot was she came up with to make Ozai the Fire Lord and save Zuko. But really, the ending was decent, and overall the series was amazing for Nick, and I'll miss it.

Terrible, treacherous things. That seems to imply that Ursa killed Azulon in his sleep. As far as making Ozai the Fire Lord that way...maybe Iroh shot it down or since Ozai was there he wins by forfeit?

Anyway...that DA rant is hilarious. He has only two points:

-Zuko not using lightning is a decent argument. Personally, I figured he wouldn't need the lightning and would use the rainbow flames instead.
-The lion turtle defintely feels like DEM. But then again, it is shown in The Library, so maybe that's enough to consider it a foreshadow.

Everything else he points out is ridiculous. No killing in a kid's show. It was shown that Aang can still access the AS via the scar in The Awakening. Mastering the elements put Aang in closer range to Ozai than he would have had. And the Sokka pairing stuff is hilarious. Toph has a kiddie crush on Sokka and Ty Lee is just a super flirt(who's totally gonna end up with Suki and Sokka when they're about 20 :awesome)

But! I did notice some form of plot hole here:

In the siege on the north, Zuko is able to burst free from Katara's ice prison when the sun comes up. Now here's Azula with the comet and she can't do the same? Maybe it's because Zuko's focus is far more wild that he can do full body flames, or maybe it's just a slip up. Also, she can burst free from fully-covering rocks, but not a chain and a grate? Was she really that nutty that she couldn't do that?

[LIL_M0]

Hmmm, perhaps. Is it me or did Toph get shafted in that epilogue. Would it have been so hard to do something as simple as having her recieve a letter from her parents. She wouldn't even need to open it just recieving it would make a better end than her hasving no resolution at all. Even her Zuko fieldtrip did nothing for her
No, Boomerang got shafted during the epilogue! :C

I demand that the creators re-animate the last scene after Katara kissed Aang and add to it a picture of boomerang stuck in a rock Excalibur style... And do it in sepia tone. :shakefist

[Tomato Sauce]

lolz....4th season everyone?!

I guess they left far too many loose ends, also the series started out very good but somehow in season 3 they messed things up. I felt like they were trying to make the show into a high school of some kind, and there were some really silly plot holes, namely the entire prison break with Sokka's dad.

They were able to come in, get out and prance around in a top security prison...Amongst other things, but I guess Mai and Ty lee redeemed that episode for me...But then again they didn't do anything in the invasion...
One thing that bugged me also, Toph didn't gets much screen time in the end as Katara or Sokka...I really missed seeing her kick ass instead of an emo-Katara...

overall, the ending with Aang was excellent for me, I expected it to be cheesy but it was better than I imagined...The third season wasn't as good as the first two...Too much nonesense but I guess the creators had a tough time trying to stay kiddie-friendly while keeping the older fans satisfied....But they managed somehow.

[Superstarseven]

The Boiling Rock was a plothole?
Well I don't know about that.
Also not sure about the writers making Book 3 into a High School...not sure what you mean by that.

[Gaiash]

OK we're all thinking adults here, we know nothing is perfect. All of us here pretty much enjoyed the finale to certain degrees. Of course there is room to disagree but I just found an essay that made my head explode because I can't agree on one single point.
But it goes far beyond any well balanced critique to just straight up bashing I think.

I don't care if it's against any rule, If I get banned then so be it but I have to link it so that people here can read it.

ATLA Ending analysis (http://daveshan.deviantart.com/art/My-AtLA-Ending-Analysis-92219658)

I'm not bashing anyone I just want to see if anyone here agrees with the points presented here. If so then they must be valid right? Or did it make sense that I was pulling my hair out by reading this?
Man his points were way too over the top. So much that I feel like arguing with each one.

1. The Avatar State
He competly missed the point of Aang trying to master the elements on his own. If he's reading allow me to re-explain.
If Aang is killed in the Avatar State that is the end of the Avatar full stop.
That in my opinion is what made the final battle that much more exciting, the fact that if Aang slipped up that was the end of the avatar for good.

2.No "has to let her go"
I was wondering through the series if the scar on his back would heal or mean anything. I was glad to see it put to use. His point here isn't that big a deal but its the first of many uses of the line "DEUS EX MACHINA"

3.Aang not killing Ozai
Aang killing is too out of character. I like the fact that despite everyone telling him that killing him was the only way Aang still found another way. That is Aang and to do things otherwise would have ruined the character for me, if he killed Ozai it would destroy him inside.

4.Bending bending
Ok that was very WTF I'll admit but I just let it slide as it allowed the Fire Lor- I mean Pheonix King to suffer the ultimate defeat. A man obsessed with power is now powerless and will live the rest of his life knowing he lost.

5.No deaths
What exactly was this guy expecting. It was clear this wasn't going to be a blood bath like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. And shame on him for suggesting that Sokka or Toph die.

6.Toph's crush on Sokka
Oh yeah lets deal with every shipping. There was no time for that, heck the Kataraang was rushed why would adding more shipping conclusions work any better. I think the shipping moments were handled well. The shipping endings however were rushed. The shipping endings were definatly rushed, especially Aang and Katara's random kiss seriously that was random, Katara's side of the pairing had no development in fact there were more Zutara scenes in this than Kataraang from what I saw.

7.Kuzon
Where would this fit in the story?

8.Long Feng
He's in jail, end of story.

9.Azula
This was actually one of my favourate moments in the finalie. Azula finally losing her mind. She got paranoid and twisted, she would have banshed an insect if it walked in the wrong direction.

10.Dai Lee
As I said they can't be expected to clear everything up. Their appearence was their to show just how paranoid Azula had got.

11.Comet lasts for a few hours
Clearly this guy hasn't seen the Freeza arc of Dragon Ball Z. Plus the idea is the comet makes him powerful enough to create enough fire to destroy the earth kingdom. I mean didn't he see the amount of fire he caused before Aang stepped in?

12.Aang never had to grow up
And I'm glad he didn't. Aang is one of those characters who could be ruined by making him too mature. Besides he already grew up several episodes ago, I can't see him growing any more without ruining his character.

13. Lion Turtle
This guy loves saying DEUS EX MACHINA. Anyway as others have said in this thread the Lion Turtle was hinted at before. As for why Aang went there, it was clear it was the Lion Turtle's doing.

14 and 15.Iroh and/or Zuko vs Ozai
Listen to Iroh more and learn something. That plus they were both busy.

16.June
She appeared, isn't that good enough? I didn't think she'd show up again to be honest.

17.Ty Lee's feelings for Sokka
She found him cute, doesn't really need an ending. I might as well be annoyed Onji didn't show up and become Aang's girlfriend (It wouldn't be any more random than the kiss XD).

18.Iroh in the spirit world
Wait a moment. Maybe I heard it differently but nothing Iroh said implied he was in the spirit world. He simply said that he always saw himself conquoring Ba Sing Se and that he never knew he'd do just that but on the other side. It's nothing to do with the spirit world, its run of the mill irony.

19.Everyone just accepts Zuko
By that logic you could say, everyone just accepts the fire nation. Zuko is a prime example of how the people of the fire nation can change. Obviously someone explained that Zuko changed before that. Unless it was Sokka I don't see why we would need to see a scene like that.

20.Zuko never shoots lightening
He also didn't use blue firebending. He didn't learn it, simple really. Would have been cool but the fight was good enough without it.

21.Combustion man is never explained
Wouldn't fit in the episode.

22.Ursa
Ok this I will agree but only because there was that scene of Zuko asking where his mother was.

23.Zuko interrogates Ozai, then joins the Gaang for tea
I seriously doubt it happens right after he was there.

24.Zuko's scar
Again, too much happened in this episode.

25.Lieutenant Jee
Hes too minor a character. I don't even remember him, I had to check the Avatar wiki to see who he was.

26.No official Toph nick-name for Zuko
Why this episode?

27.Koh
I don't see how he would fit in the story. In fact all the ideas that were brought up were terrible.

And the comment about the spot where Aang couldn't bend, what part of "It's not made of earth" is so hard to understand. What was Aang supposed to use, Shell Bending?

[Tomato Sauce]

@ Superstarseven , what I meant in "the boiling rock" there were many scenes in which they managed to slip in the prison and then get out with no problems at all..nNot only that, but also move a cell to the outer parts of the prison...amongst other strange things..

As for the high school, I meant that many scenes took a more (contemporary/school) theme. For example 3 days before the invasion they hold a beach party(which thanks to Zuko they became more serious). They are in the middle of the fire nation, Aand does a school party. They are supposed to be in a fantasy world, not a modern city... It also depends on the viewers opinion...

For me, it's cool to have comedy and relief but that was an exaggerated way to give the fandom some service...

For me, season one and 2 were all about building the characters and story, while season 3 was more about hastly tying up things and giving fanservice.

[LIL_M0]

No, Boomerang got shafted during the epilogue! :C

I demand that the creators re-animate the last scene after Katara kissed Aang and add to it a picture of boomerang stuck in a rock Excalibur style... And do it in sepia tone. :shakefist
in case anyone was wondering, I was joking. The series finale was AVATAR and I'm glad it ended the way it did. That's it for me. Have fun complaining about parings and junk. :edu

*unsubscribes

[Silvermyst]

So in terms of earthbending who takes the cake:
- Iron Toph
- Bumi the city bender
- Aang (non-AS) bending the pillars of rock and stuff

Bumi. He was the friggin' man when he took back his city.

Also, nice catch to whomever made the lion-turtle connection.

[Koi]

IMO Bumi wins in terms of bending. Hands down. Toph is strong, without a fuckin' doubt, and as is Aang when he's in the AS, but.. come on. Bumi soloed the Omashu takeback. The guy is officially GAR.

[squirrelnacht]

20.Zuko never shoots lightening
He also didn't use blue firebending. He didn't learn it, simple really. Would have been cool but the fight was good enough without it.
I'd have been willing to let this go, even though I was really looking forward to it. IF they had cut out Azula's lightning, preferably with an attempt exploding in her face. After all isn't lightning supposed to require near total inner calm? She didn't look very internally calm to me...

Also Momo eats the brains of evil warlords. Fear his awesome zombie might.

[Linkdarkside]

Oh yeah, it was before he got shot by lightning. :imslow
Yeah but wearing a suit of diamond looks cooler than a suit of armor.

*roars like a tiger-dilloand diamond supose to be very hard.

[Tomato Sauce]

IMO Bumi wins in terms of bending. Hands down. Toph is strong, without a fuckin' doubt, and as is Aang when he's in the AS, but.. come on. Bumi soloed the Omashu takeback. The guy is officially GAR.


I agree, also with the fact that Bumi is ancient!!!Toph ( my fav. character) is super strong and learned from the original masters but she doesn't have the mad experience old Bumi has....


Still she kicks ass :P

[Superstarseven]

@ Superstarseven , what I meant in "the boiling rock" there were many scenes in which they managed to slip in the prison and then get out with no problems at all..Not only that, but also move a cell to the outer parts of the prison...amongst other strange things..


They didn't move a cell. They unscrewed the cooler and popped it out from where it was placed.
To be honest I just simply enjoyed myself, I'm not really a nitpicking type.

Also in response to the awful finale rant that I asked everyone to read, Aang didn't bend bending...that sounds awful. The way the book describes it he manipulated Ozai's life force. But when you trivialize it by saying something like what he said then it doesn't sound as great. I can guarantee you that if Zutara happened he'd have less complaints. It's almost as if he was justifying hating it.

As for writing that Mike and Bryan made the "worst finale ever", he can simply suck their thumbs because that's highly immature and very wrong.

"C'mon Mike and Bryan, you could have done so much better".

No you think you could have done better. It didn't go the way you wanted to so you take it out on them

[Shippingr4losers]

IMO Bumi wins in terms of bending. Hands down. Toph is strong, without a fuckin' doubt, and as is Aang when he's in the AS, but.. come on. Bumi soloed the Omashu takeback. The guy is officially GAR.

Behold the power of neutral jin! :yell

[Chidori Mistress]

IMO Bumi wins in terms of bending. Hands down. Toph is strong, without a fuckin' doubt, and as is Aang when he's in the AS, but.. come on. Bumi soloed the Omashu takeback. The guy is officially GAR.

Exactly. :del

That finale was amazing.

[Cero]

He was AVATAR :oh

[Ha-ri]

My Tribute to Iroh the most AVATAR person alive

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/IrohHappywithaPhiShopiece.png

[Jove]

What's up, Melon Lords? I missed the last few pages, so I'll recap here:

1. The reason Aang did not kill Ozai was NOT because Avatar is a kid's show. He did not kill him because that's not in Aang's character to do so. The demographic meant nothing; Mike and Bryan would have written this exactly the same no matter what network this was on.

2. Book 3 was not hasty at all. The opposite, in fact. The entire first half was very casual.

3. It was explicitly stated that Iroh journeyed into the Spirit World. This was never explained further. If anything, that's the real loose end, because at least with Ursa we know that Zuko went looking for her. He still have no clue why, or how, Iroh could enter the Spirit World.

4. There is no need for a Book 4 with these characters. Book 4 would be more frivolous than the first half of Book 3. The main purpose of the show was to defeat Ozai. Mission accomplished. The story of Aang and Zuko is over. It's time to tell the story of another Avatar.... hopefully.

[Tetsuo235]

Bumi + Iroh = ownage

[Jove]

Bumi + Iroh = ownage

+ Pakku + Piandao + JEONG-JEONG = AVATAR

[RisingVengeance]

Does it ever tell what happened to Zuko's mother?

[Jove]

Does it ever tell what happened to Zuko's mother?

No.

I was a bit perplexed by the inclusion of the scene where Zuko asks Ozai about her. if it's a set-up to the mini-episodes, great. But I interpret that scene as a hint at closure for a storyline that they didn't have enough room for; he is going to search for her and he is going to find her.

[Ha-ri]

There is the possibilities that he bring along the Avatar and the gang to find her, starting a new adventure. Doubt it, but just throwing out the idea.

[Superstarseven]

Does it ever tell what happened to Zuko's mother?

Obviously no one has the answer to that but this is the question that will have everyone's mind going crazy right before the SDCC. Mike and Bryan did say that Zuko will eventually go looking for his mother so everyone assumed that it would be within Book 3 but he didn't even know she was alive until the invasion and he had to join the Avatar so it wasn't until the finale that he found the time to do it. Now what could justify building up a 13 episode series around that concept? Anyway after the attendees at the SDCC watch the last hour of Sozin's Comet, I'm sure this will be that this will be the first question thrown during the Q&A session.

Oh and here's another genius review of Sozin's Comet -
Anonymous Wrote:
sorry but.. you'll never atch [sic] me watching avatar ever agian[sic]..
Bryke were total @#@#$#ers and handled it the totaly[sic] wrong way. sorry.. no matter what anyone says..never ever EVER again!


By the way I don't think Zutarians really got how Aang mastered the Avatar State. What hitting the spot where Aang was shot by lightning did was stop the disruption that didn't allow him to control it at Ba Sing Se.
So yes he did unblock the last chakra by letting go of Katara. Holy crap, you saw that as your reasoning for why these two couldn't get together and you're letting that final kiss blind you as to what you perceive as something not being fair.

[ReikaiDemon]

Let's say Naruto got the ability to go KN4 whenever he gets poked in the back.

Imagine the final fight we've been waiting for for years, and it gets ended because Naruto gets poked in the back.
No getting a powerup for protecting your loved ones, no rising above your limits to protect the world, just a random poke in the back.

It just screams bad writing to me.I don't think it's the poke though, Aang could still converse with his previous incarnations, the stab to the scar pretty much pushed it for Aang, just enough to create immense pain, but not so much to kill him, or knock him out. And even if it was the scar, the Lionturtle would've unlocked it for him anyways. Though, the Avatar's spirit goes beyond fragile physical bodies, it is only the current avatar's spirit that determines how closely they can access their long lineage.

Terrible, treacherous things. That seems to imply that Ursa killed Azulon in his sleep. As far as making Ozai the Fire Lord that way...maybe Iroh shot it down or since Ozai was there he wins by forfeit?

Anyway...that DA rant is hilarious. He has only two points:
Everything else he points out is ridiculous. No killing in a kid's show. It was shown that Aang can still access the AS via the scar in The Awakening. Mastering the elements put Aang in closer range to Ozai than he would have had. And the Sokka pairing stuff is hilarious. Toph has a kiddie crush on Sokka and Ty Lee is just a super flirt(who's totally gonna end up with Suki and Sokka when they're about 20 )lol, orgy

But! I did notice some form of plot hole here:

In the siege on the north, Zuko is able to burst free from Katara's ice prison when the sun comes up. Now here's Azula with the comet and she can't do the same? Maybe it's because Zuko's focus is far more wild that he can do full body flames, or maybe it's just a slip up. Also, she can burst free from fully-covering rocks, but not a chain and a grate? Was she really that nutty that she couldn't do that?Azula was very sleep deprived, plus her focus was scattered, she was no longer the extremely calm, concentrated she-witch she used to be. Plus, I think without her servants, she hasn't eaten in a while, on top of her fears of being assassinated, she wouldn't touch any food, for fear of poison. Food is very important to maintain a person's chi. Plus, I can't remember how Zuko freed himself from Katara's ice, did he have his hands, or feet, or mouth free?

I thought a lot of people died in ATLA? Well, off screen deaths no less, but a hundred year war seems a sure killer to me. They could've written Aang to kill Ozai, but that goes against his character, and the influences used to compose him. Plus it also serves as a message that killing doesn't solve everything, and it should only be if one has no option other than to kill. Actually, Aang could've went Avatar State from the start possibly, but he didn't want to, because his other past lives probably WAS focused on killing him, Aang probably wanted to incapacitate him long enough so he can block his chi from being used externally.

No, Boomerang got shafted during the epilogue! :C

I demand that the creators re-animate the last scene after Katara kissed Aang and add to it a picture of boomerang stuck in a rock Excalibur style... And do it in sepia tone. :shakefist
:iria Hey, that could be an awesome after the series thing. Then someone finds Sokka's space sword in a rock :iria
Man his points were way too over the top. So much that I feel like arguing with each one.

1. The Avatar State
He competly missed the point of Aang trying to master the elements on his own. If he's reading allow me to re-explain.
If Aang is killed in the Avatar State that is the end of the Avatar full stop.
That in my opinion is what made the final battle that much more exciting, the fact that if Aang slipped up that was the end of the avatar for good.

2.No "has to let her go"
I was wondering through the series if the scar on his back would heal or mean anything. I was glad to see it put to use. His point here isn't that big a deal but its the first of many uses of the line "DEUS EX MACHINA"

3.Aang not killing Ozai
Aang killing is too out of character. I like the fact that despite everyone telling him that killing him was the only way Aang still found another way. That is Aang and to do things otherwise would have ruined the character for me, if he killed Ozai it would destroy him inside.

4.Bending bending
Ok that was very WTF I'll admit but I just let it slide as it allowed the Fire Lor- I mean Pheonix King to suffer the ultimate defeat. A man obsessed with power is now powerless and will live the rest of his life knowing he lost.

5.No deaths
What exactly was this guy expecting. It was clear this wasn't going to be a blood bath like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. And shame on him for suggesting that Sokka or Toph die.

6.Toph's crush on Sokka
Oh yeah lets deal with every shipping. There was no time for that, heck the Kataraang was rushed why would adding more shipping conclusions work any better. I think the shipping moments were handled well. The shipping endings however were rushed. The shipping endings were definatly rushed, especially Aang and Katara's random kiss seriously that was random, Katara's side of the pairing had no development in fact there were more Zutara scenes in this than Kataraang from what I saw.

7.Kuzon
Where would this fit in the story?

8.Long Feng
He's in jail, end of story.

9.Azula
This was actually one of my favourate moments in the finalie. Azula finally losing her mind. She got paranoid and twisted, she would have banshed an insect if it walked in the wrong direction.

10.Dai Lee
As I said they can't be expected to clear everything up. Their appearence was their to show just how paranoid Azula had got.

11.Comet lasts for a few hours
Clearly this guy hasn't seen the Freeza arc of Dragon Ball Z. Plus the idea is the comet makes him powerful enough to create enough fire to destroy the earth kingdom. I mean didn't he see the amount of fire he caused before Aang stepped in?

12.Aang never had to grow up
And I'm glad he didn't. Aang is one of those characters who could be ruined by making him too mature. Besides he already grew up several episodes ago, I can't see him growing any more without ruining his character.


And the comment about the spot where Aang couldn't bend, what part of "It's not made of earth" is so hard to understand. What was Aang supposed to use, Shell Bending?I felt that Aang did grow up, but in a profoundly enlightened way.

I thought the turtle was an allegory for Aang's efforts supporting the earth, the turtle now supports Aang, and lifts it off his shoulders long enough for him to gain wisdom. Since turtles in mythology carry the earth on their backs in Hinduism, and earth IS a turtle in Chinese beliefs. The Lion head probably represents the Avatar's duty to ward against evil in the world, spiritually, Aang is the spirit of the earth, and the turtle is symbolic of the earth itself coming in touch with it's spirit.

I'd have been willing to let this go, even though I was really looking forward to it. IF they had cut out Azula's lightning, preferably with an attempt exploding in her face. After all isn't lightning supposed to require near total inner calm? She didn't look very internally calm to me...

Also Momo eats the brains of evil warlords. Fear his awesome zombie might.My mom liked the Momo brain eating part :iria

Maybe she wasn't making lightning properly, she could've been suffering from improper lightning bending, which might've weakened her enough for Katara to chain her up.

and diamond supose to be very hard.It was crystal :iria

I agree, also with the fact that Bumi is ancient!!!Toph ( my fav. character) is super strong and learned from the original masters but she doesn't have the mad experience old Bumi has....


Still she kicks ass :PShe has huge potential, so by the time where Toph is half as old as Bumi, she can probably fling planets :iria And move the earth :iria
And become the new villain XD
Naaah, I'm kidding....
Or am I?....

What's up, Melon Lords? I missed the last few pages, so I'll recap here:

1. The reason Aang did not kill Ozai was NOT because Avatar is a kid's show. He did not kill him because that's not in Aang's character to do so. The demographic meant nothing; Mike and Bryan would have written this exactly the same no matter what network this was on.

2. Book 3 was not hasty at all. The opposite, in fact. The entire first half was very casual.

3. It was explicitly stated that Iroh journeyed into the Spirit World. This was never explained further. If anything, that's the real loose end, because at least with Ursa we know that Zuko went looking for her. He still have no clue why, or how, Iroh could enter the Spirit World.

4. There is no need for a Book 4 with these characters. Book 4 would be more frivolous than the first half of Book 3. The main purpose of the show was to defeat Ozai. Mission accomplished. The story of Aang and Zuko is over. It's time to tell the story of another Avatar.... hopefully.Damn straight :iria Aang could've killed if he wanted to, but, he didn't want to kill, simply, it was not in his character to do so, being a peaceful monk.

Does it ever tell what happened to Zuko's mother?Stick around for 09'

[Jove]

I was so pleased that Bumi was given his own scene to explain his escape. For so long, Bumi was the Earthbender for the show, but Toph mercilessly thieved all that thunder. So if I had to choose the greatest Earthbender, I would give the edge to Toph due to metalbending, but Bumi's eccentric open-mindedness about his bending might neutralize that.


As for deaths on the show... well, we saw Chin the Conquerer fall after Kyoshi severed the peninsula and created Kyoshi Island, and obviously Jet's ambiguous but certain death. Zhao being caught by Koi-zilla counts. And how about when Katara sliced through all the airships in DOBS? What do you think they landed on, a big pile of hay? They gone.

[ReikaiDemon]

I was so pleased that Bumi was given his own scene to explain his escape. For so long, Bumi was the Earthbender for the show, but Toph mercilessly thieved all that thunder. So if I had to choose the greatest Earthbender, I would give the edge to Toph due to metalbending, but Bumi's eccentric open-mindedness about his bending might neutralize that.


As for deaths on the show... well, we saw Chin the Conquerer fall after Kyoshi severed the peninsula and created Kyoshi Island, and obviously Jet's ambiguous but certain death. Zhao being caught by Koi-zilla counts. And how about when Katara sliced through all the airships in DOBS? What do you think they landed on, a big pile of hay? They gone.
Bumi had an affair with Tophs mom :LOS
Ah, Toph, your mom's fetish of ooooooooolder men is so insatiable.

[Jove]

Bumi had an affair with Tophs mom :LOS
Ah, Toph, your mom's fetish of ooooooooolder men is so insatiable.

Toph shall take after her mother. Genetics shall prevail!

ToZai!

[ReikaiDemon]

Toph shall take after her mother. Genetics shall prevail!

ToZai!
Genetics for geriatrics :sag

Lamarck was right :LOS

[Dragonus Nesha]

Toph shall take after her mother. Genetics shall prevail!

ToZai!:C No!

Get it right!

:yell Tiroph, FTW!!!1!!11! :yell

[Super Mike]

Lol old people fetishes,:LOS

[Jove]

Genetics for geriatrics :sag

Lamarck was right :LOS

AH! French History! revolution era, even. Now you're staring to get into my discipline.

I'm really disappointed that you didn't take part in the Rewatch, Rei. We could have thoroughly discussed the use of objective correlative in Avatar.


On Avatar... I keep bringing this up, but the music was just spectacular, and the Track Team really showed their diversity here. This was truly a movie score (with a real orchestra), which is unlike anything they had done on Avatar until now. A lot of movie scores have a lot of staccato, while the music of Avatar is remarkably fluid, with true melody, and often a bevy of countermelodies. Now I abhor staccato, but they really made it work in a breathtaking way, integrating old leitmotifs (the Azula theme, the Tsungi horn theme, the Fire Nation theme, etc.) and, of course, filling the show with the seemingly countless ways they can reinterpret the Main Theme. Just phenomenal.

And, of course, every single one of those superlatives is meant to say AVATAR.

[The Cheat]

I still don't get how that rock broke the seventh chakra.

[ReikaiDemon]

:C No!

Get it right!

:yell Tiroph, FTW!!!1!!11! :yell
No, DiegoXToph :LOS
Nickshipping teh lulz

[ReikaiDemon]

I still don't get how that rock broke the seventh chakra.
It didn't :D
It just put his life in danger, activating it as the failsafe :3

[Dragonus Nesha]

No, DiegoXToph :LOS:wha Who ?

[Mider T]

Dora the Explorer's Diego? I always thought that kid was a bisexual at best.

[ReikaiDemon]

Dora the Explorer's Diego? I always thought that kid was a bisexual at best.
How else would he get a visa? :sag

[Mider T]

He didn't, I saw him in San Diego telling some cops in Spanish that he thought this was Tijauna.

[The Cheat]

It didn't :D
It just put his life in danger, activating it as the failsafe :3

But wasn't he supposed to give up his attachment to katara? Pls, did going into the avatar state pretty much mastering the four elements useless?

[Jove]

He didn't, I saw him in San Diego telling some cops in Spanish that he thought this was Tijauna.

Are you kidding? He was totally put in a condom and smuggled across the border inside a hooker.

[ReikaiDemon]

But wasn't he supposed to give up his attachment to katara? Pls, did going into the avatar state pretty much mastering the four elements useless?Well, that was one of the ways to autonomously achieve Avatar State, mastering all the elements is another way.

Are you kidding? He was totally put in a condom and smuggled across the border inside a hooker.And thus, Toph met Diego :sag

[Superrazien]

This thread is now OVER 9000!

[Mider T]

And has been for quite awhile!

[ReikaiDemon]

So in terms of earthbending who takes the cake:
- Iron Toph
- Bumi the city bender
- Aang (non-AS) bending the pillars of rock and stuff
9000th post, get!

[Michael Jacksőn]

THE MELON LORD RETURNS!!

Tokka FC anyone?

For those of you that dont understand the Avatar State, here's how it happened:

Azula locked Aang's Seventh Chakra when he struck him with Lightning. When Aang was slammed into that rock, it freed his Seventh Chakra. You can actually see him mastering his Seventh Chakra during that scene. In that whole event, Aang managed to free himself of Katara, and went Avatar State.

[Dragonus Nesha]

But wasn't he supposed to give up his attachment to katara?Crossroads of Destiny.

[Michael Jacksőn]

Crossroads of Destiny.

Yeah, he was unable to do it.

[Silvermyst]

One question that's kinda been nagging at me: What happened to Longshot and Smellerbee? I know they stayed with Jet, but I don't recall the Logai base being destroyed until like two episodes after. So what happened? Did they escape with his body? Were they captured or killed? Que?

[Mider T]

They probably were captured when Ba Sing Se was conquered after trying to lie low.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXipnK-m7Zw&NR=1
This is what Azula's servants get when she banishes them :D

[Jove]

If Ozai had won, that's basically what Azula would have become. I call for them to reanimate! Alternate universe!

[Silvermyst]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXipnK-m7Zw&NR=1
This is what Azula's servants get when she banishes them :D

:wha That's what probably happened to Azula.

[ReikaiDemon]

If Ozai had won, that's basically what Azula would have become. I call for them to reanimate! Alternate universe!
Oh! Oh oh oho oooooh!
I GOT A GOOD ONE!
Azula redefines the meaning of "Hey, look at that flaming queen"
Ahhh! I'm gonna diiie XD :loool

[Jove]

Oh! Oh oh oho oooooh!
I GOT A GOOD ONE!
Azula redefines the meaning of "Hey, look at that flaming queen"
Ahhh! I'm gonna diiie XD :loool

FLAMIO!


I just thought of something. Aang didn't kill Ozai, but he definitely severely shortened his lifespan. It's been explicitly stated that the energy of bending prolongs people's lives. Avatar Kyoshi lived to be 230, Sozin lived to 102, Bumi is still going string at 112... all signs point to Ozai losing at least 10-15 years off his life.

[hcheng02]

FLAMIO!


I just thought of something. Aang didn't kill Ozai, but he definitely severely shortened his lifespan. It's been explicitly stated that the energy of bending prolongs people's lives. Avatar Kyoshi lived to be 230, Sozin lived to 102, Bumi is still going string at 112... all signs point to Ozai losing at least 10-15 years off his life.

When did they say that?

[ReikaiDemon]

FLAMIO!


I just thought of something. Aang didn't kill Ozai, but he definitely severely shortened his lifespan. It's been explicitly stated that the energy of bending prolongs people's lives. Avatar Kyoshi lived to be 230, Sozin lived to 102, Bumi is still going string at 112... all signs point to Ozai losing at least 10-15 years off his life.
Obiviously, it's chi, life energy that composes everything. In order to rid Ozai of any powers, Aang had to severely cut down his reserve of chi, and block his chakaras and leave just enough for him to live off of. Without chi, it becomes hard to move, which is why Ozai can barely sit up. Being in tune with the elements sharpen one's concentration and manipulation of chi, and gives the practitioner a large mass of chi itself by enhancing how much flows through their bodys, and how much they can develop.
In the real world, this kind of thing is basically within the realms of gods, since we can only do small stuff like this, akin to basically parlor tricks, but it is most effective in kung fu.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77nD5xmL0kU

[Trias]

Some of the new songs were really incredible. I especially liked the one with sweeping patterns that played in the Aang vs Ozai fight.

End of it really seemed rushed, it's weird because first half was not rushed or anything.

[Superstarseven]

FLAMIO!


I just thought of something. Aang didn't kill Ozai, but he definitely severely shortened his lifespan. It's been explicitly stated that the energy of bending prolongs people's lives.

Is this what you're referring to Jove?
Bryan Konietzko: You know Bumi lived over 100 years. We had kind of set it up. It's not so foreign in Chinese mythology to have like the Taoist immortals, these characters or legendary figures who lived 500-600 years. It wasn't one of the earliest ideas we had, but pretty early on Mike and I were of the idea that these people with such enhanced Chi fields might live a longer time. We've shown that Kyoshi was a pretty robust person.

For those that don't know, this was taken from an interview done by Avatarspirit.net which can be found Here (http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/interviews.php?id=18)

[Jove]

When did they say that?

Oh, that's kind of a big typo. I meant "implicitly." They do say that Sozin used the energy from the comet to live longer on the Nick.com Avatar episode profiles, but whether or not those are canon is up for debate.

Also, they say it in an interview with ASN.

Edit: SS7 beat me with the ASN. That's pretty much the most informative interview out there.

[monk3]

ok i know this is a few days late, but I thought the ending was absolutely stunning. I loved every minute of it and I'm sad that it's over but it was truly an epic story

[ReikaiDemon]

77nD5xmL0kU
Real firebending :D

[-Maya-]

ok i know this is a few days late, but I thought the ending was absolutely stunning. I loved every minute of it and I'm sad that it's over but it was truly an epic story

I just love Happy endings:cry

[Mider T]

Wow first time the forum has settled down since the Epictar finale...

[Sunuvmann]

Is this what you're referring to Jove?


For those that don't know, this was taken from an interview done by Avatarspirit.net which can be found Here (http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/interviews.php?id=18)
Awesome.

That makes it more logical then the story idea I came up with within the avatar-verse (bored musings) where Aang dies saving the world from an asteroid at the age of 90 or so, then assassins who are of Azula's descendents kill the new Water Avatar when he's like 5 while in Avatar state. This severs the bond between the spirit and the living world effectively ending bending.

100 years later, without bending technology takes over and you have a world near ours (or rather more like just industrial instead of post industrial...lets say like the 40s).

And then the main character comes into play (modern day earth kingdom) and is attacked by a gang wielding flame throwers who liken themselves to Fire Benders. He tries to save his girlfriend and is engulfed with flames but the honorable act, he proves himself worthy to the spirit world and is granted the powers as the new avatar, re-establishing the connection.

The ruins of the old Avatar temples then begin to glow and a beam of light shoots to him. He is a new avatar but all he has for an avatar state is the ability to control the elements, none of the wisdom so with it he can fire bend to safety in a wild uncontrolled rage, none of the crazy shit we saw from Aang.

The episode then ends with a really really old lady (like say 200 years old :awesome) who is walking down the street with a seeing eye-pygmybadgermole. Suddenly two guys try and mug her and that is simultaneous with the return of the Avatar to the world. And then the old lady looks up as her feet touch the ground. And she smiles and says. "Oh its been a while since I could see. And its been even longer that I've been wanting to do this."

And the piece of sidewalk that those guys were standing on fly skyward with them screaming their heads off.

/episode.

[Mider T]

That'd be pretty cool

[ReikaiDemon]

But who is crazy enough to tap Azula? D:
Unless someone rapes her in prison....
Also, it would be pointless to kill the Avatar after the Firenation war is over.

[Mider T]

I think Haru could hit that

[ReikaiDemon]

I think Haru could hit that
That be some burn thar, he'd cook if he put that in her :zaru

[Mider T]

Her spirit's already broken, time for the body:LOS

[Jove]

The Boulder is strong and determined. He shall be the one...

[ReikaiDemon]

This all sounds like a bad hentai :LOS :zaru
My post count is entering WWII :iria

[Mider T]

My post count is entering.....Halo:zaru

[ReikaiDemon]

My post count is entering.....Halo:zaru
Most of my rep is coming from here now :saghttp://img390.imageshack.us/img390/4018/repawesomekk8.jpg

[Noah]

Awesome.

That makes it more logical then the story idea I came up with within the avatar-verse (bored musings) where Aang dies saving the world from an asteroid at the age of 90 or so, then assassins who are of Azula's descendents kill the new Water Avatar when he's like 5 while in Avatar state. This severs the bond between the spirit and the living world effectively ending bending.

100 years later, without bending technology takes over and you have a world near ours (or rather more like just industrial instead of post industrial...lets say like the 40s).

And then the main character comes into play (modern day earth kingdom) and is attacked by a gang wielding flame throwers who liken themselves to Fire Benders. He tries to save his girlfriend and is engulfed with flames but the honorable act, he proves himself worthy to the spirit world and is granted the powers as the new avatar, re-establishing the connection.

The ruins of the old Avatar temples then begin to glow and a beam of light shoots to him. He is a new avatar but all he has for an avatar state is the ability to control the elements, none of the wisdom so with it he can fire bend to safety in a wild uncontrolled rage, none of the crazy shit we saw from Aang.

The episode then ends with a really really old lady (like say 200 years old :awesome) who is walking down the street with a seeing eye-pygmybadgermole. Suddenly two guys try and mug her and that is simultaneous with the return of the Avatar to the world. And then the old lady looks up as her feet touch the ground. And she smiles and says. "Oh its been a while since I could see. And its been even longer that I've been wanting to do this."

And the piece of sidewalk that those guys were standing on fly skyward with them screaming their heads off.

/episode.

...wow. He finally comes up with a good idea that doesn't involve whoring himself out with gifs. :zaru :zaru

[Gentleman]

Is there a DDL to the finale episodes yet?

[Mider T]

Yes:oh Hurry

[HO-OH]

is anyone kind of disapointed that ozai didnt die its not that i hate him its just that aang seemed kind of gary stu-ish with the whole taking away ozai's bending

[Kaenboshi]

Actually, taking his bending works better than killing him. Think about it. Ozai was the Fire Lord, the leader of an entire nation. He declared himself supreme ruler of the entire world, and attempted to make it permanent. He was one of the strongest firebenders in the world. After being defeated, he now has to spend the rest of his life alone in prison (apparently limp), with only the memories of everything he had, and everyday from then on reminding him of how far he's fallen. This way definitely has more impact than killing him, really.

[Dragonus Nesha]

is anyone kind of disapointed that ozai didnt die its not that i hate him its just that aang seemed kind of gary stu-ish with the whole taking away ozai's bendingAnd Aang would have seemed "gary stu-ish" had he killed Ozai. :zaru

At least this way his morals stay intact.

[RisingVengeance]

Awesome.

That makes it more logical then the story idea I came up with within the avatar-verse (bored musings) where Aang dies saving the world from an asteroid at the age of 90 or so, then assassins who are of Azula's descendents kill the new Water Avatar when he's like 5 while in Avatar state. This severs the bond between the spirit and the living world effectively ending bending.

100 years later, without bending technology takes over and you have a world near ours (or rather more like just industrial instead of post industrial...lets say like the 40s).

And then the main character comes into play (modern day earth kingdom) and is attacked by a gang wielding flame throwers who liken themselves to Fire Benders. He tries to save his girlfriend and is engulfed with flames but the honorable act, he proves himself worthy to the spirit world and is granted the powers as the new avatar, re-establishing the connection.

The ruins of the old Avatar temples then begin to glow and a beam of light shoots to him. He is a new avatar but all he has for an avatar state is the ability to control the elements, none of the wisdom so with it he can fire bend to safety in a wild uncontrolled rage, none of the crazy shit we saw from Aang.

The episode then ends with a really really old lady (like say 200 years old :awesome) who is walking down the street with a seeing eye-pygmybadgermole. Suddenly two guys try and mug her and that is simultaneous with the return of the Avatar to the world. And then the old lady looks up as her feet touch the ground. And she smiles and says. "Oh its been a while since I could see. And its been even longer that I've been wanting to do this."

And the piece of sidewalk that those guys were standing on fly skyward with them screaming their heads off.

/episode.

That's quite the interesting plot. You should turn it into a fanfiction somehow.

[squirrelnacht]

Actually, taking his bending works better than killing him. Think about it. Ozai was the Fire Lord, the leader of an entire nation. He declared himself supreme ruler of the entire world, and attempted to make it permanent. He was one of the strongest firebenders in the world. After being defeated, he now has to spend the rest of his life alone in prison (apparently limp), with only the memories of everything he had, and everyday from then on reminding him of how far he's fallen. This way definitely has more impact than killing him, really.
You can look at it that way. And I generally do when I think about it. But I prefer not to, because it makes Aang into a real preachy asshole rather than an idealistic kid trying to find a compromise between his duty and his values.

The Boulder is strong and determined. He shall be the one...
Bouldula. Because love (sex) needs narration.

[Sunuvmann]

...wow. He finally comes up with a good idea that doesn't involve whoring himself out with gifs. :zaru :zaru
Well I thought for a while while watching the series, while all this chinese mythos is awesome, it would be pretty cool to have bending in a modern world. Also it would be interesting seeing the worlds collide and all that.

[Taurus Versant]

Nice sig, Zero. Almost as awesome as MELON LORD!!! :yell

I'm liking that idea for a future series, but I don't think we'll see it outside of fanfiction. Let us know if you start it though. :zaru

[Noah]

Well I thought for a while while watching the series, while all this chinese mythos is awesome, it would be pretty cool to have bending in a modern world. Also it would be interesting seeing the worlds collide and all that.

Hrm.

I don't like this.

It's almost as if you already know my thoughts for a Mayan-based Avatar rip-off.

....I don't like this at all. :notrust

[ReikaiDemon]

Well I thought for a while while watching the series, while all this chinese mythos is awesome, it would be pretty cool to have bending in a modern world. Also it would be interesting seeing the worlds collide and all that.
I see a modern world with bending as balanced, like, waterbenders can have cars that has a water turbine in it instead of a combustion engine, earthbenders would all eventually learn metalbending to move their cars, or use earth surfing.Of course, we could also have Fred Flintstone styled cars for earthbenders too :zaru Or have stone tires, or stonework gears.
Animals would still be popular modes of transportation though, badgermoles could probably be trained to run subways.

[arcanecapricorn]

does anyone know when the book 3 volume 4 DVD comes out??? i have to get it.

[Kaenboshi]

July 29th. And unless you already have the rest of the season, it's probably best just to wait until Septemtber 16th for the full season box set.

[Mider T]

Box Set September 16th. (I think)

[HO-OH]

And Aang would have seemed "gary stu-ish" had he killed Ozai. :zaru

At least this way his morals stay intact.

actually when you think about it him even winning could have been considered gary stu-ish. im just wondering where the hell did the whole take away bending power came from it just seemed so random.but other than that the finale was fantastic

[Jove]

July 29th. And unless you already have the rest of the season, it's probably best just to wait until Septemtber 16th for the full season box set.

That is, unless you buy anything with the Avatar logo on it, like myself. :zaru

[ReikaiDemon]

actually when you think about it him even winning could have been considered gary stu-ish. im just wondering where the hell did the whole take away bending power came from it just seemed so random.but other than that the finale was fantastic
What's so random about it? The Avatar is sent down from the heavens to right the world, at least that's what it says in Chinese above the title, plus, it's basically like Ty Lee's Dim Mak, except much more powerful. Really, anyone can learn neigong, it's just that Aang learned has massive skill in it.

Lol, now my postcount entered the end of WWII

[squirrelnacht]

actually when you think about it him even winning could have been considered gary stu-ish. im just wondering where the hell did the whole take away bending power came from it just seemed so random.but other than that the finale was fantastic
He was taught it through direct mental injection from an IslandLionTurtle. Don't question the logic.

Apparently in the olden days before the follies of man, and the development of elemental bending, benders would bend bend their spirits and the spirits of others. Over time this skill was lost as people switched over to the less risky and more visually impressive elemental bending system and the skill was almost completely lost. At this point in time, probably only 3 people know about it: Impossibly ancient IslandLionTurtle, OwlSpiritLibrarian, and Iroh; cause he's well Iroh.

As for any foreshadowing of it, the Dai Li brainwash people. That's about all I'm coming up with.

[Cero]

Gotta love those crazy lion turtles and moose lions (foo foo cuddly poops!)

[Mider T]

Hawky > Foo Foo Cuddly Poops > Bosco

[Kaenboshi]

I'm just going with the idea that fifth elements like void/sky/aether are nothing new mythologically and it was a matter of time.

[ReikaiDemon]

Lions are rendered with fantastical powers in Chinese myths, since lions are not native to China, and details have only been hear from foreigners, where the ancient Chinese believed mystical things happened.I'm just going with the idea that fifth elements like void/sky/aether are nothing new mythologically and it was a matter of time.Aang didn't really learn bending of a fifth element, just a new way to manipulate chi. More likely, he saturated Ozai with his own chi, and then had full reign of his body.

[Jove]

Hawky > Foo Foo Cuddly Poops > Bosco

Don't stop with just animals. He's > just about every human character as well.

[ReikaiDemon]

Don't stop with just animals. He's > just about every human character as well.
Plus those cheesy breadsticks he makes are pretty good too :LOS

[Mider T]

Don't stop with just animals. He's > just about every human character as well.

Oh I wasn't planning to:LOS Let's not stop there

Hawky > Iroh
Hawky > Toph
Hawky > Sokka
Hawky > GAR Aang
Hawky > Roku
Hawky > Avatar spirit completely
Hawky > Mike and Brian
Hawky > Nick
Hawky > You

[Taurus Versant]

Is there anything Hawky can't do? :zaru

[Mider T]

Come back to Sokka, he was cramping his style:zaru

And I mean Sokka was cramping Hawky's

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t234/shortie22_rocker/Avatar%20The%20Last%20Airbender/hawky.gif

[Jove]

The only person I can even think that even approaches equality with Hawky is Foaming Mouth Guy.

For animals, it's gotta be the sparrow-keets.

Keep in mind, turtle-ducks can never be brought into any discussion of this manner. It's only fair.

[Mider T]

Momo > Appa > Cabbage merchant > Song > Aang's left foot > Toph toenail > Azula's eyebrow > Katara

[ReikaiDemon]

The only person I can even think that even approaches equality with Hawky is Foaming Mouth Guy.

For animals, it's gotta be the sparrow-keets.

Keep in mind, turtle-ducks can never be brought into any discussion of this manner. It's only fair.
But what about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtleducks? Surely they are different. :LOS

[Mider T]

And a partridge in a pear tree

[Jove]

But what about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtleducks? Surely they are different. :LOS

You've been hitting the cactus juice, I presume?


And by "cactus juice" I mean bourbon. :zaru

[Taurus Versant]

Momo vs Appa? :awesome

Momo AND Appa vs Hawky, to make it fair? :gar

[squirrelnacht]

Momo AND Appa vs Hawky, to make it fair?
That's hardly fair.

Momo and Appa vs Hawky, maybe. But my money would still be on the bird.

[Taurus Versant]

Oh yeah, Hawky would win.

But it would still be epic AVATAR:C.

[ReikaiDemon]

You've been hitting the cactus juice, I presume?


And by "cactus juice" I mean bourbon. :zaru
Actually, I do have cactus juice :sag Seriously though, they sell it in my local Chinatown.http://www.1jn.com/nutrition/graphics/millennium.jpgReally fancy stuff, it's expensive. Millennium brand cactus juice comes in pouches, like capri sun, except it has a screw off top
Momo vs Appa? :awesome

Momo AND Appa vs Hawky, to make it fair? :garAren't Momo and Appa a couple? :sag I hear they have some mad sex. Of course, all the animals in the "Ancient China Land" of Avatar are super horny, and genetically viable to produce offspring with each other, how else do you suppose these combo critters are conceived? :sag

[Taurus Versant]

Ah ha, no wonder everyone was weirded out by Bosco.

"Just...bear."

"This place... is weird."

[Superrazien]

So does anyone know for sure that they will have Mini episodes clearing up some of the gaps left by the finale? Would it be on the DVD do you think?

[Jove]

So does anyone know for sure that they will have Mini episodes clearing up some of the gaps left by the finale? Would it be on the DVD do you think?

Supposedly, they will air in Spring and Fall of next year. It was on this media flyer distributed by Nick:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2638658176_7c6e909ba7_b.jpg


It's legitimate, but keep in mind that another one had previously appeared online a couple months before this one. That flyer promised "three one-hour movies." This flyer was later deemed "out-of-date" by Nick. So while the mini-episodes seem like a go for now, things may change.

Things will probably be cleared up at SDCC by Mike and Bryan.

[Mider T]

Back to work:zaru

[Jove]

I AM NOT COOKIE MONSTER SMILEY, I AM MELON LORD!!! MWUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[Mider T]

Krumel the melon lord

[Superrazien]

Supposedly, they will air in Spring and Fall of next year. It was on this media flyer distributed by Nick:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2638658176_7c6e909ba7_b.jpg


It's legitimate, but keep in mind that another one had previously appeared online a couple months before this one. That flyer promised "three one-hour movies." This flyer was later deemed "out-of-date" by Nick. So while the mini-episodes seem like a go for now, things may change.

Things will probably be cleared up at SDCC by Mike and Bryan.

Oh thanks, Im more surprized by according to that Avatar ranks lower than Naruto.

[Mider T]

On Tv.com Avatar was #1 even during those seasonal hiatus'

[ReikaiDemon]

Is it just me, or has everyone forgotten about Flopsy?

[Ha-ri]

So wait according to that poster, the Avatar movie by M Night Shamalamadingdong is coming out in 2010?! What is the twist gonna be Aang turns out to be black? [/Shaymalan jokes]

[ReikaiDemon]

So wait according to that poster, the Avatar movie by M Night Shamalamadingdong is coming out in 2010?! What is the twist gonna be Aang turns out to be black? [/Shaymalan jokes]
No, Aang runs out in the street, and gets hit by a semi :LOS Apparently, it was modern day, normal universe we're in, except he was in a coma, and is apparently pregnant :LOS :LOS :LOS Oh yeah, and his feet sees dead people.

[Mider T]

I bet it's going to be like this:

Katara: Aang....I have something to tell you...
Aang: Oh I knew! I love you too Katara! *smooches*
Katara: Aang! I don't know what to say *blushes* but that's not what I wanted to say...
Aang: What is it then Katara *Starts kisses down her stomach*
Katara: I'm a man
Aang: *Reaches the penis*



:awesome

[Jove]

As Fire Lord Ozai descends upon Aang to deliver the final blow, Aang wakes up, is M Night Shymalan, and hits a home run in the bottom of the 9th inning to win the World Series for the Phillies.

The End.

[Mider T]

Oh and yet another plot twist, Aang's a woman.

[Superrazien]

So wait according to that poster, the Avatar movie by M Night Shamalamadingdong is coming out in 2010?! What is the twist gonna be Aang turns out to be black? [/Shaymalan jokes]

He makes Zutara happen.

Oh and yet another plot twist, Aang's a woman.

In a way he is, since he has all his past lives within him.

[ReikaiDemon]

I bet it's going to be like this:

Katara: Aang....I have something to tell you...
Aang: Oh I knew! I love you too Katara! *smooches*
Katara: Aang! I don't know what to say *blushes* but that's not what I wanted to say...
Aang: What is it then Katara *Starts kisses down her stomach*
Katara: I'm a man
Aang: *Reaches the penis*



:awesome
lol, Katara's a futa chick
It's okay, Aang turns out to be a woman, the actor in the play, however, is the real Aang all along, and she is actually assexual, and an alien from outer space.

Then the camera pulls out, OMG, it's all a computer simulation run by aliens! WAIT!! WHAT'S THIS?! *camera pans back into simulation* OMG, it turns out that the real Aang was running a simulation of the aliens that simulated them, thus proving that no one existed, and only mormons can get into heaven. The Jehovah witnesses go to a less cooler heaven that doesn't have round ice cubes.

I think I just beat M.Night Shamalamadingydongapingpongpoing :LOS

[Mider T]

And they're both gay

[ReikaiDemon]

And they're both gay
Both only gay for the opposite gender :sag

And Zuko is actually the Drunken Immortal, which is Jackie Chan. But he's really old, because time goes backwards, and Micheal Jackson is the only one who goes through time normally.

[Mider T]

Also Zhao is a pedophile and Azula's a hermaphrodite

[Jove]

Also Zhao is a pedophile and Azula's a hermaphrodite

Is that an M Night twist or are you revealing something you figured out from the show?

By the way... too late.

[ReikaiDemon]

Also Zhao is a pedophile and Azula's a hermaphrodite
I always figured Azula to be the futanari type :LOS

Also, Katara will have a deep booming voice like Dr. Girlfriend of the Venture Brothers, she will be portrayed by Jackie Onassis' clone, who has been trained to smoke from the age of one, so she'll have the same voice as herself at 14.
Also, the object of Zhao's love is actually 800 years old, but has the body of a child.

[Mider T]

Oh our imaginations, oh the possibilities:hehee

[Ha-ri]

Best Twist: Toph is played by Jenna Jameson, and it turns out that Space Sword is actually the true Fire Lord.

[Superrazien]

I dont whats more miss matched, M.Night directing this, or MTV films having part in this.

Though M.Night has said him and his kids are big fans, so I don't he will screw it up that bad. If its screwed up it will probably be because of the Studio involvement.

$100 says Avatar will have an all White kid cast.

[ReikaiDemon]

Oh our imaginations, oh the possibilities:hehee
Speaking of imagination, it turns out, the whole movie is a sham, becaaaause....
*the camera pans out, a little girl is playing with Gingerbread cookies*
LO AND BEHOLD! The whole movie was a imagining of a little girl, who loved sci-fi, and just seen the Matrix, and she herself is NOT an alien. As she finishes her prattling about aliens and computer simulations, she turns around, and smiles, the end.

And yes, they were ALL GINGERBREAD COOKIES!http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/240/87c2e60f89399d70d4daf019af803065ca19931a.jpg

SCHRODINGER'S CAT! SCHRODINGER'S CAT! IS IT DEAD?! IS IT ALIVE?! OR IS IT NEITHER?! *screams the narration at the end of the movie*

By God, I've beaten M.Night Shamalongadinger at his game :LOS

[ReikaiDemon]

I dont whats more miss matched, M.Night directing this, or MTV films having part in this.

Though M.Night has said him and his kids are big fans, so I don't he will screw it up that bad. If its screwed up it will probably be because of the Studio involvement.

$100 says Avatar will have an all White kid cast.I wouldn't doubt it, they made a movie about Siddhartha Gautama as Keanu Reeves in a movie about the beginning of Buhddism.

Also, MTV films has a part in this, because MTV owns Nickolodean

[squirrelnacht]

So wait according to that poster, the Avatar movie by M Night Shamalamadingdong is coming out in 2010?! What is the twist gonna be Aang turns out to be black? [/Shaymalan jokes]
Rather than killing evil overlord Ozai the high and mighty avatar forces him into a fate worse than death, Aang's friends show up and belittle the injured and humiliated ruler, and so sow the seeds for this same damn war to start up again in a few generations.

Built in plot twist. Shamamalan doesn't need to do anything. But since he will anyway I say Zhao is part of the moon beaming down horrible tumor causing radiation that will kill the world in only a few years.

Also Zhao is a pedophile and Azula's a hermaphrodite
Known canon.

[Ha-ri]

I wouldn't doubt it, they made a movie about Siddhartha Gautama as Keanu Reeves in a movie about the beginning of Buhddism.

Also, MTV films has a part in this, because MTV owns Nickolodean

This movie is just set to fail, But M.Night did say he and his kids are fans so THERE IS SOME HOPE, not matter how little it may be.

[Superrazien]

I wouldn't doubt it, they made a movie about Siddhartha Gautama as Keanu Reeves in a movie about the beginning of Buhddism.

Also, MTV films has a part in this, because MTV owns Nickolodean

I didn't know they own Nick.

This spells trouble for the film. Knowing MTV and there films Friggin Snoop Dogg will voice Appa.

[ReikaiDemon]

This movie is just set to fail, But M.Night did say he and his kids are fans so THERE IS SOME HOPE, not matter how little it may be.
His kids would probably do a better job directing than he would, provided that he didn't soil them with what he calls his idea of good plot.
Off topic, but I found this :iria http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/195/d697e553653132d9e2a34b111097ee4a91594774.jpgAnd thiiis :LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/201/e29578b140e253dbe54a4751e16dc7fbab4de290.jpg

[Ha-ri]

That confirms it Azula digs the chicks.

[ReikaiDemon]

That confirms it Azula digs the chicks.
And chicks dig Azula :iria
:LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/282/b2504199058e09c45a2af6590580862b1980f17b.jpg

[Superrazien]

And chicks dig Azula :iria
:LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/282/b2504199058e09c45a2af6590580862b1980f17b.jpg

I dont think anyone would care if they got raped by a princess.

MTV Avatar Movie Cast

Aang
http://www.ilikemusic.com/images/article_images/full/chris_brown.jpg

Katara
Lil Mama
http://hotmusicbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lil-mama-ft-t-pain.jpg

Sokka
Bow Wow
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Bow-Wow-music-tt03.jpg

Toph
Miley Cyrus
http://www.tricitiesblogs.com/images/uploads/mileyvanity_thumb.jpg

Zuko
Zack Effron
http://popularbiographies.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/zac-efron.jpg

Azula
Eve
http://www.hiphoproll.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/eve-4.jpg

Iroh
http://www.nicekicks.com/images/fat-joe-sneaker-comp.jpg

[Koi]

And chicks dig Azula :iria
:LOS
http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/282/b2504199058e09c45a2af6590580862b1980f17b.jpg

She always has that look in her eyes. :iria That's why we love her.

Crazula! By Makani (http://ligermagic.com/)!
http://ligermagic.com/azula.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

I dont think anyone would care if they got raped by a princess.
But her body heat is comparable to the heat of a thousand suns :LOS
Any man would be beef jerky if they so choose to lay with thy burnish one :LOS :LOS :LOS She always has that look in her eyes. :iria That's why we love her.

Crazula! By Makani (http://ligermagic.com/)!
http://ligermagic.com/azula.jpglol, reminds me of WoW XD That also reminds me...My free trial account is gonna expire! :bees

[Taurus Versant]

Yeah, we'll replace crappy movie twists with epic fanarts. Good call. Now if only I had a good eye for fanarts >_<

[Ha-ri]

Yeah, we'll replace crappy movie twists with epic fanarts. Good call. Now if only I had a good eye for fanarts >_<

Funny you say that, I've been redrawing stuff on the DS and look what I did today:


http://i38.tinypic.com/zxtlwn.png

http://i37.tinypic.com/2wp8guv.png

http://i34.tinypic.com/vght11.png

http://i36.tinypic.com/29avdhs.png

[Taurus Versant]

That's like, multiple shades of AVATAR. :iria

[Red]

Where can I download the episodes I missed everything from "day of the black sun part two" :(

[Sunuvmann]

I wonder how they will handle the live action movie. There is no way they can put all 3 seasons into it. :S

As for casting, I have my worries. They need a pretty strong looking shota for Aang. But it has to be someone who can rock the bald or else it will look like he's a cancer kid. >_>

And the others....I'm having a very hard time picturing them IRL.

Meh, I guess this is another one that can be epic win or epic fail, no in between.

[Linkdarkside]

I wouldn't doubt it, they made a movie about Siddhartha Gautama as Keanu Reeves in a movie about the beginning of Buhddism.

Also, MTV films has a part in this, because MTV owns NickolodeanViacom own MTV,Nickolodeaon and alot of other networks

[Superrazien]

I wonder how they will handle the live action movie. There is no way they can put all 3 seasons into it. :S

As for casting, I have my worries. They need a pretty strong looking shota for Aang. But it has to be someone who can rock the bald or else it will look like he's a cancer kid. >_>

And the others....I'm having a very hard time picturing them IRL.

Meh, I guess this is another one that can be epic win or epic fail, no in between.

A Live action Avatar movie could actually be pretty good if it was handled right. Im guessing they would shoot for 3 films.

Film 1= Book 1, Water.
Film 2= Book 2, Earth.
Film 3= Book 3, Fire.

[Kaenboshi]

The real issue with the movie adaptations, beside Shamalama, is how do you distill twenty episode seasons into 2-2.5 hour long movies? Exactly what details do you decide are important for the adaption? Even if you have to change some stuff around, how do avoid losing the feel of the story? I don't think it's impossible, but the whole setup is way too easy to botch.

[Koi]

I wonder how they will handle the live action movie. There is no way they can put all 3 seasons into it. :S

As for casting, I have my worries. They need a pretty strong looking shota for Aang. But it has to be someone who can rock the bald or else it will look like he's a cancer kid. >_>

And the others....I'm having a very hard time picturing them IRL.

Meh, I guess this is another one that can be epic win or epic fail, no in between.

True.

I think the character I'm actually most worried about is Sokka. :( They need to find someone who can deliver like DeSena, and frankly, if anything, I'm all up for them just casting him in the role.

[The Cheat]

I'm really pissed about the finale haters, why the hell is so bad about it?

[Akuma]

I'm really pissed about the finale haters, why the hell is so bad about it?

Alot of people are saying it was too rushed.


or maybe they are just mad that the show is over.


IMO I thought it was very well done, they should make a prequel series with the avatar before him though.

[Koi]

Alot of people are saying it was too rushed.


or maybe they are just mad that the show is over.


IMO I thought it was very well done, they should make a prequel series with the avatar before him though.

They kinda did. Sorta. But the most we'll probably see of Roku was with that episode of flashbacks, about him and Sozin.

But I think most of the haters are Zutara fans. :awesome


I think everyone needs to stop bitching, though, honestly. Just enjoy the epic finale and be glad we even got one in the first place.

[blackssk]

the best avatar amv ever smile-big

L_c36YLYxUk

[Jove]

Alot of people are saying it was too rushed.


or maybe they are just mad that the show is over.


IMO I thought it was very well done, they should make a prequel series with the avatar before him though.

They always say it was rushed. And that's absurd. It was two hours long; the pacing was very measured.

I think everyone needs to stop bitching, though, honestly. Just enjoy the epic finale and be glad we even got one in the first place.

"Epic" no longer exists. It is AVATAR. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/MelonLordCookieMonster.png

[The Cheat]

I've been trolling that dave-shun guy, he's claimng that aang never grew up because he never compromised his morals and didn't face the consequneces and that he got to take the cake and eat it. Clearly he never wacthed the series.

I'm also surprised how many people wanted koh in the finale, never knew he was so popular..

[Ha-ri]

I still wanted more combustion man, his finale was kinda lame.

[Kaenboshi]

Let's see:

-Probably what's best how Aang did things was how avoided falling into a false dichotomy.
-Of course Aang's matured throughout the series.
-Most people complaining probably are having issues what they personally wanted over objective quality.
-Pacing was great imo.
-Why would Koh have anything to do with anything at that point?
-Nick site said it best: Alas Combustion Man, we hardly knew you. :(

[Sci-Fi]

Doesn't really matter. The Avatar creators wrote the story/series and ended it they way they wanted. How many anime ended with original endings while the manga is still going on? Yeah, fans may have wanted some alternate scenarios, but it is what it is and one can write their own fanfic's to change that ending. The writers did leave an opening for more Avatar, but right now, nobody knows if NICK/MTV/Paramount will greenlight any more animated shorts/movies, esp with the Avatar live action movies on the plate.

[Superstarseven]

I've been trolling that dave-shun guy, he's claiming that Aang never grew up because he never compromised his morals and didn't face the consequences and that he got to take the cake and eat it. Clearly he never watched the series.

I'm also surprised how many people wanted koh in the finale, never knew he was so popular..

I'll say it right now, Daveshan is a whining ass. He's the only person that was peeved when Avatar didn't give closure on the whereabouts of Kuzon.
Was that ever a loose end that needed to be tied up? Daveshan wanted everything spelled out for him. The only criticism I'll even agree with would be with Zuko's mother but I understand that in the story there was no time to be spent on a search. Even if Zuko never asked Ozai where she was, it still would have been in the minds of the fandom considering she appeared to Azula in the form of a hallucination.

Like I said a millions times before the SDCC will have the answers to everything.

[Gentleman]

I'm thinking about changing my name to Melon Lord :LOS

[Shade]

Haha, I just read through all 60ish pages of when the eps starting airing. You guys are totally crazy. :zaru

I would share my thoughts on it, but it would sound just like the other 50 pages so I'll just say the last ep was called AVATAR Aang for a reason. :LOS

[Princess Mahi]

I think when people say it was rushed they mean thos elast 5 minutes, but the finale was amazing!

[Michael Jacksőn]

I seriously need some GIFs. Where are you, GIF people??

Anyone but me get reminded of Nidaime when they saw Avatar Kuruk?

[Koi]

I seriously need some GIFs. Where are you, GIF people??

Anyone but me get reminded of Nidaime when they saw Avatar Kuruk?

Not at the time, but now that you mention it, yeah, a bit. :)


Speaking of Kuruk-- why are there like, no not-hot Water Tribe guys? Not that I'm complaining, but.. damn. Even his voice was like.. awwh yeah. <3

[Michael Jacksőn]

Not at the time, but now that you mention it, yeah, a bit. :)


Speaking of Kuruk-- why are there like, no not-hot Water Tribe guys? Not that I'm complaining, but.. damn. Even his voice was like.. awwh yeah. <3

So totally not gay, but what about Hakoda? Sokka and Katara's dad?

[Koi]

So totally not gay, but what about Hakoda? Sokka and Katara's dad?

Pfft, hell yeah, him too. :D But he's been around for longer. ;) I got used to the awesome sexiness by now, heh.

[Jove]

I'll say it right now, Daveshan is a whining ass. He's the only person that was peeved when Avatar didn't give closure on the whereabouts of Kuzon.
Was that ever a loose end that needed to be tied up? Daveshan wanted everything spelled out for him. The only criticism I'll even agree with would be with Zuko's mother but I understand that in the story there was no time to be spent on a search. Even if Zuko never asked Ozai where she was, it still would have been in the minds of the fandom considering she appeared to Azula in the form of a hallucination.

Like I said a millions times before the SDCC will have the answers to everything.

Unless, of course, the A/V connections get totally screwed up, and by the time they get it up and play 320/321, there's no more time for the Q&A.

What am I saying, that could NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN, right?!

[Michael Jacksőn]

Wow, what happened to everyone on this thread?

[squirrelnacht]

Speaking of Kuruk-- why are there like, no not-hot Water Tribe guys? Not that I'm complaining, but.. damn. Even his voice was like.. awwh yeah.
Sokka effect, anyone even remotely related to Sokka becomes sexier. Just look at Bosco. One minute he doesn't know Sokka, and the next he's one damn cool bear. This effect is so powerful it defys the laws of space/time.

[Mider T]

Well Kuruk was the Avatar.....I could see why he was rebellious. Times of peace, giftedness, the guy practically invented surfing in that world.

[Superstarseven]

Unless, of course, the A/V connections get totally screwed up, and by the time they get it up and play 320/321, there's no more time for the Q&A.

What am I saying, that could NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN, right?!

Wow they finally get one of the big rooms that are reserved for...Heroes panels and that happens? Hasn't been that long since NYCC so hopefully everyone has their crap in order. Hmm...maybe some of the questions will be answered before then anyway. Mike and Bryan aren't there to show pre-production art or character designs so if that's out the way then they have no choice but to talk about where the future of the property is headed.
Some praise for everyone who worked on the finale and the entire series overall.
The films.
Everything is open after that.

[Noah]

I keep reading (not necessarily here, mind you) people talking about loose ends. I friggin' hate that term now. Much like the terms 'overrated' and 'deus ex machina', no one seems to understand exactly what a loose end is.

That DA tard threw DEM and Loose ends around all over his little rants, even though he was right on only two accounts:

Warning, mini-rant:
The Lionturtle was, for the most part, DEM. It was hinted and foreshadowed at before, but even with that it is the deus ex machina of Avatar. Example of DEM: Aang has no way to defeat Ozai without actually killing him, but behold, a giant lionturtle shows up and shows him the way to spirit bend. I don't remember anything of that sort being mentioned or hinted at, so Aang gaining that ability really is DEM. There was a problem, something showed up, problem is fixed. Now, if I'm wrong about mentions or hinting of taking away bending, then it isn't really DEM.

The only real loose end is whether or not Zuko found Ursa, and even that is subjective. They addressed the issue and we are left to believe that he will find her. All that nonsense of Tokka, SokLee, Iroh's spirit world journey(and a damn shame, it would've been a great subplot), Koh, and everything else he bitched about is just a fan wanting closure on every little thing. Even what happened to Azula wouldn't count, because we know she's going to be locked away like her father.

An example of a real loose end would be having the Owl Spirit say something like "if you kids use that information to wage war and defeat your enemies, I'll use my knowledge to unleash all the evil spirits of the spirit world on yours." Then we would have a loose end, because Ozai is defeated, Zuko will find his mom, Aang gets his girl and everyone else is happy, but now there's the very likely chance that Koh and the other spirits are going to start a big problem.

Anyway....I wish I had already moved to San Diego. Then I could be at SDCC this year. Looks like I'll just have to wait until next year with no Avatar. :notrust.

[ReikaiDemon]

I dont think anyone would care if they got raped by a princess.

MTV Avatar Movie Cast

:argh IT BURRRRRNS!!! KILL ME NOW!!! THEN KILL IT WITH FIIIIIRE!

Funny you say that, I've been redrawing stuff on the DS and look what I did today:


http://i38.tinypic.com/zxtlwn.png

http://i37.tinypic.com/2wp8guv.png

http://i34.tinypic.com/vght11.png

http://i36.tinypic.com/29avdhs.pngOMG :iria You have Colors too?

I wonder how they will handle the live action movie. There is no way they can put all 3 seasons into it.

As for casting, I have my worries. They need a pretty strong looking shota for Aang. But it has to be someone who can rock the bald or else it will look like he's a cancer kid. >_>

And the others....I'm having a very hard time picturing them IRL.

Meh, I guess this is another one that can be epic win or epic fail, no in between.Well, they could always use a Chinese kid already trained in Kung Fu, I'm pretty sure at least one of you guys seen that abomination that was the Forbidden Kingdom, those child monks are really articulate in the martial arts. lol, typecast.

Viacom own MTV,Nickolodeaon and alot of other networksThanks, I knew it was something like that

The real issue with the movie adaptations, beside Shamalama, is how do you distill twenty episode seasons into 2-2.5 hour long movies? Exactly what details do you decide are important for the adaption? Even if you have to change some stuff around, how do avoid losing the feel of the story? I don't think it's impossible, but the whole setup is way too easy to botch.Imho, they'll never make it work, I really hate the state of Hollywood these days, or any major movie thing. Sure, there are excellent gems from time to time, such as Batman and so forth. But I don't fucking agree to this major moviefication of everything these days. The pacing of Order of the Phoenix gave me cramps, Forbidden Kingdom didn't even have a single idea what pacing is, One Missed Call, and Shutter is just damn shameless, why don't they at least dub, or subtitle the original Japanese movies? That goes for every other Japanese horror film that has been butchered for American release as well. Speed Racer was horrible, just full stop, horrible. The point is, I'm really fucking tired of major movies just capitalizing on huge names and brands, and paring content down to an hour to two and a half hours, making the pacing horrible, making a bunch of plot holes, and creating endless wallbangers in an effort to expedite the plot to fit down into a feature length film. That said, these movies don't exist, the final four episode mash up is the ONLY avatar movie that exists dammit!

Not at the time, but now that you mention it, yeah, a bit.


Speaking of Kuruk-- why are there like, no not-hot Water Tribe guys? Not that I'm complaining, but.. damn. Even his voice was like.. awwh yeah. <3I'd say the Swamp Water Tribe are kinda not-hot :zaru
Though, they do have a roguish, rugged charm... :D
Plus, I dunno if the shirtless thing helps, I'm sure it does :zaru

[masterriku]

As far as I'm concern koh had his moment in Kuruks flashbacks plus Koh is an ancient spirit and The Avatar is an Ancient spirit he may not have no been talking about Aang when he said we will meet again.

[Ryuk]

Sozin's Comet was epic.

[Taurus Versant]

AVATAR. Not epic, AVATAR.

Also, that second Aang drawing reminds of me of Chalk Man from TTGL.

[Ha-ri]

LOL Yeah, Avatar Chalk Man.

@ ReikaiDemon: No I just used DS Organize's scribble feture. but I'll try Colors!

[ReikaiDemon]

LOL Yeah, Avatar Chalk Man.

@ ReikaiDemon: No I just used DS Organize's scribble feture. but I'll try Colors!
It's an excellent art app :nod Plus you can see how you drew it :D

[Jove]

Waterbender.com has 5 mp3's up from the finale, 3 of them from The Track Team's myspace page.

http://water-bender.com/audio/

[ReikaiDemon]

http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/243/3586c87394c87d695990309711656743001c6a2a.pngRaki Sutarr meme is Raki Sutaar meme XD

Also, TophXKatara http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/171/16e2184ff29b9f831507bc42dc3b396ee84a059d.jpg Awwwwww

Also, Katara from Ninjatic :iria http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/287/8f86a39b5680693ab59e48ec5a8bbe2c757c7bc7.jpg

[The Cheat]

http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/243/3586c87394c87d695990309711656743001c6a2a.pngRaki Sutarr meme is Raki Sutaar meme XD

Also, TophXKatara http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/171/16e2184ff29b9f831507bc42dc3b396ee84a059d.jpg Awwwwww

Also, Katara from Ninjatic :iria http://img2.gelbooru.com//images/287/8f86a39b5680693ab59e48ec5a8bbe2c757c7bc7.jpg

Tophxkatara is AVATAR.

As for the movie, the only episode that gets out and wouldn't matter is the great divide, all other episodes of book 1 had importance to overall storyline.

[ReikaiDemon]

Tophxkatara is AVATAR.

As for the movie, the only episode that gets out and wouldn't matter is the great divide, all other episodes of book 1 had importance to overall storyline.
Indeed, ADORABLY AVATAR :iria :iria :iria
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpg

[Superstarseven]

Waterbender.com has 5 mp3's up from the finale, 3 of them from The Track Team's myspace page.

http://water-bender.com/audio/

Yeah, everybody's raving over Last Agni Kai and for good reason, it's a beautiful piece that really stood out in the finale.
Also the re-scored end credits theme is a favorite.

[Jove]

Yeah, everybody's raving over Last Agni Kai and for good reason, it's a beautiful piece that really stood out in the finale.
Also the re-scored end credits theme is a favorite.

I hope the people that said the Angi Kai music was inappropriate and didn't fit the scene eat the regurgitated crow of the people that lambasted Mike and Bryan after the Sozin's Comet book came out.

I love the Peace Excerpt. Hearing just makes me think of the image of Aang wearing the Gyatso Air Nomad necklace. Probably my favorite shot of the finale.

[Kira-chan]

Here's a trailer for the beginning of Book 2 from the Japanese dub...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny6C2ue2-8k

[Kaenboshi]

^ Azula sounds so wrong it that. :S

Anyway, there is good news about Countdown to the Comet: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-22-2008/0004853663&EDATE=

[Ha-ri]

LOL Now that is weird seeing something like this in Japaneese, Azula sounds like shes 4.

From The Track Team's MySpace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=64227418).

The Track Team - Last Agni Kai (http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/other/last_agni_kai.mp3)
The Track Team - Peace Excerpt (http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/other/peace_excerpt.mp3)
The Track Team - Reconciliation (http://sokkagetsnorespect.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/other/reconciliation.mp3)

[Koi]

Here's a trailer for the beginning of Book 2 from the Japanese dub...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny6C2ue2-8k
Oh man, Azula.. :sag

Lo and Li sound pretty perfect, though.

[Jove]

^ Azula sounds so wrong it that. :S

Anyway, there is good news about Countdown to the Comet: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-22-2008/0004853663&EDATE=

This is EXTREMELY good news. It's actually even better than that, though; Avatar accounted for FOUR of the top 15 rated Cable programs last week. Each night drew higher than the previous night:


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/FinaleWeekRatingsRatings.png

[Noah]

Wow. The Last Agni Kai is just as amazing without the visuals as it is with them. If there's anyone who didn't like the pathetic tone of the whole situation, they obviously didn't understand 80% of Avatar.

[ReikaiDemon]

^ Azula sounds so wrong it that. :S

Anyway, there is good news about Countdown to the Comet: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-22-2008/0004853663&EDATE=
:D: Generic anime girl voice :D: I can name a bunch more better female seiyuu than the current one.
Also, does anyone else think it's stupid that people are fansubbing the Japanese dub?http://youtube.com/watch?v=DYujz2MU7G0Also, my parents really need a damn Cantonese Avatar dub :iria http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpg

[Kaenboshi]

This is EXTREMELY good news. It's actually even better than that, though; Avatar accounted for FOUR of the top 15 rated Cable programs last week. Each night drew higher than the previous night:


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/FinaleWeekRatingsRatings.pngNow that's AVATAR.

:D: Generic anime girl voice :D: I can name a bunch more better female seiyuu than the current one.
Also, does anyone else think it's stupid that people are fansubbing the Japanese dub? http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3395/sokkapalmsz4.png

[Jove]

IT'S IN JAPANESE, THEREFO IT'S BETTER!!!

[ReikaiDemon]

Now that's AVATAR.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3395/sokkapalmsz4.png
Facepalm indeed :D: The only people I think that goes through the trouble of watching Avatar fansubs of the Japanese dubs are icky weeboos who think english is icky.

We need that Sokka facepalm in NF smiley set :D:

[Kaenboshi]

Honestly, how does Avatar being in Japanese make it better? If anything the English because it's kind of, you know, the language the animation and voice direction is framed around. But I guess doing that would be actually being open to something not from Japan, and expanding one's horizons right?

Also, I motion that someone makes a Sokkapalm smiley. NAO!

[ReikaiDemon]

Anyways, speaking of dubs, has anyone have anything about Avatar being dubbed in Chinese? Preferably Cantonese or Mandarin? It confuzzles my parents in English XD

[Seto Kaiba]

IT'S IN JAPANESE, THEREFO IT'S BETTER!!!

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!not really.

[Jove]

Honestly, how does Avatar being in Japanese make it better? If anything the English because it's kind of, you know, the language the animation and voice direction is framed around. But I guess doing that would be actually being open to something not from Japan, and expanding one's horizons right?

Also, I motion that someone makes a Sokkapalm smiley. NAO!

When the Japanese dub first made it online, I was truly terrified that this sentiment would be put out there.

Terrified that I would spend weeks of my life tracking people and killing them.

I only saw a few people go this far, but it did happen. People, fans of Avatar, actually said that the Japanese dub was better than the original. They actually said this. This happened.

I'd also like to second that motion.

[ReikaiDemon]

When the Japanese dub first made it online, I was truly terrified that this sentiment would be put out there.

Terrified that I would spend weeks of my life tracking people and killing them.

I only saw a few people go this far, but it did happen. People, fans of Avatar, actually said that the Japanese dub was better than the original. They actually said this. This happened.

I'd also like to second that motion.
:D: So you're like the Frank Castle of Avatar weeboos?
Count me in :LOS
I found a Death Note :iria
*adds to your collection of killer artifacts*
Seriously, I found people that said they will NEVER watch the original Avatar UNLESS if it was dubbed. Truly, they stuck to that weabooish commitment :D:

[Kaenboshi]

I'd like to know these people are so I can give them a piece of my mind. Or a bullet. Depends how on I feel.

[Jove]

:D: So you're like the Frank Castle of Avatar weeboos?
Count me in :LOS
I found a Death Note :iria
*adds to your collection of killer artifacts*
Seriously, I found people that said they will NEVER watch the original Avatar UNLESS if it was dubbed. Truly, they stuck to that weabooish commitment :D:

I saw someone say that he wanted to see it dubbed into Chinese. Not as you asked about before, but because, in his opinion, "that's what they're actually saying."

Which seems really bizarre to me, because despite the cultural and historical references (which are often very indirect and oblique), I never once questioned that this was simply a world where they spoke English and wrote in Classical Chinese. It was that kind of juxtaposition that I liked about the show, actually.

[ReikaiDemon]

I saw someone say that he wanted to see it dubbed into Chinese. Not as you asked about before, but because, in his opinion, "that's what they're actually saying."

Which seems really bizarre to me, because despite the cultural and historical references (which are often very indirect and oblique), I never once questioned that this was simply a world where they spoke English and wrote in Classical Chinese. It was that kind of juxtaposition that I liked about the show, actually.
They all speak english for our benefit :iria
I'd say they speak an entirely different language altogether, yes, the people in Avatar actually speak pig latin of a martian language! :iria But they write in classical, literatural and ancient Chinese :sag
Our frail human ears cannot BEGIN to understand the TRUE language of Avatar, because thusfar, all attempts in doing so has driven people insane, blew heads up, and made people scowl and cry, and go "pfft, enough of this shit" and walk away. :iria
And yes, this will be in M.Night Shamamapapagrannydingdong's movie :LOS

[Noah]

GIVE ME AVATAR IN SANSKRIT OR PREPARE FOR SACKPUNT! :awesome

[ReikaiDemon]

GIVE ME AVATAR IN SANSKRIT OR PREPARE FOR SACKPUNT! :awesome
Or in Futurespeak of South Park fame :LOS

[Jove]

AVATAR IN ESPERANTO FTMFW!!!!!!!!!

And that works, because if M. Night makes The Last Airbender in Esperanto, William Shatner would have to be in it. He'd HAVE to be Zhao.

[Noah]

Or in Futurespeak of South Park fame :LOS

No! I don't want a goddamn chicken sandwich! I want an Avatar In Sanskrit, you Avataring Avatar!

[ReikaiDemon]

AVATAR IN ESPERANTO FTMFW!!!!!!!!!

And that works, because if M. Night makes The Last Airbender in Esperanto, William Shatner would have to be in it. He'd HAVE to be Zhao.
Avatar will single handedly make Esperanto the universal language it was meant to be :LOS

Also, Samuel L. Jackson will be Ozai
David Hayter will be Zuko :LOS

[Jove]

I've recently started to seriously consider who could play what characters. M. Night's going to go with unknown kids for the Gaang, so obviously he'll put some real names in the adult roles. I just can't shake the notion that Gene Hackman should be Zhao, even with the age difference. Can't you just see Hackman with the Zhaoburns?

[ReikaiDemon]

I've recently started to seriously consider who could play what characters. M. Night's going to go with unknown kids for the Gaang, so obviously he'll put some real names in the adult roles. I just can't shake the notion that Gene Hackman should be Zhao, even with the age difference. Can't you just see Hackman with the Zhaoburns?
Mutton chops, yes, Zhao burns....Maybe....

Jet Li might, though, a slim might it is, might show interest in this movie, since Jet Li has announced that he's like to do more movies with a philosophical, and religious message, Buddhism and the state of Tibet being those themes.

[Koi]

Jet Li = Jeong Jeong.

[ReikaiDemon]

Jet Li = Jeong Jeong.
:iria Yes. Jeong Jeong, absolutely :iriahttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1034/supeririamj5.jpg
Seriously though, Jeong Jeong is the type of character that Jet Li wants to do now.

[Noah]

...well that didn't take long.

Dante Brasco as Jet :LOS

EDIT: Let's just assume that Jet Li works as Jeong Jeong. Which of the old masters would Jackie Chan, Sonny Chiba and Chow Yun Fat match up with?

[masterriku]

They all speak english for our benefit :iria
I'd say they speak an entirely different language altogether, yes, the people in Avatar actually speak pig latin of a martian language! :iria But they write in classical, literatural and ancient Chinese :sag
Our frail human ears cannot BEGIN to understand the TRUE language of Avatar, because thusfar, all attempts in doing so has driven people insane, blew heads up, and made people scowl and cry, and go "pfft, enough of this shit" and walk away. :iria
And yes, this will be in M.Night Shamamapapagrannydingdong's movie :LOS

No I'm pretty what you describe will be better than whatever Night comes up with:dupe

[ReikaiDemon]

Who will Ben Barnes be? :iria

[Jove]

Kisu's obviously Piandao.

I think Jason Isaacs should reprise Zhao.

Fedor Emelianenko as Ozai. :thumbs

[ReikaiDemon]

Dwayne Johnson is obviously the Boulder :LOS
Though, what about Chinese actors? :iria
Andy Lau would be great as a good looking villian
Stephen Chow would be nice, he already has a fluent grasp of english, being a Hong Konger afterall.

[Ha-ri]

Also, I motion that someone makes a Sokkapalm smiley. NAO!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png I tried.

[Kira-chan]

Also, does anyone else think it's stupid that people are fansubbing the Japanese dub?
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3395/sokkapalmsz4.png
IT'S IN JAPANESE, THEREFO IT'S BETTER!!!
Facepalm indeed :D: The only people I think that goes through the trouble of watching Avatar fansubs of the Japanese dubs are icky weeboos who think english is icky.
I think you're all looking at this the wrong way. I would watch it for the same reason I watch dubs of anime I've already seen the subbed versions of, because it's interesting to see a different version and watch for any changes that might have been made between the two. :amuse

[Kaenboshi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png I tried. :iria

I think you're all looking at this the wrong way. I would watch it for the same reason I watch dubs of anime I've already seen the subbed versions of, because it's interesting to see a different version and watch for any changes that might have been made between the two. :amuse There wouldn't be a problem if it was just to see the series in another language. The issues come up when you have those who say they'll only watch it in Japanese.

[ReikaiDemon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png I tried.
It's nice :iria
Han Dong might make a good Jet, or Zuko, but he's too old, and so is Hu Ge
So, Wang Zi would obviously be a better choice, but he doesn't have much experience as the other two http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9968/200711247ab9dc123f13375qc3.jpg

[Koi]

So yeah, Sifu Kisu = Piandao, without question. I could see Jason Isaacs as Zhao if he bulked up a bit more. Otherwise Chow Yun Fat might be able to pull it off, honestly.

Bumi is hard to place. I can't figure out anyone for him. Same goes for Iroh. And Pakku. Maybe.

[ReikaiDemon]

So yeah, Sifu Kisu = Piandao, without question. I could see Jason Isaacs as Zhao if he bulked up a bit more. Otherwise Chow Yun Fat might be able to pull it off, honestly.

Bumi is hard to place. I can't figure out anyone for him. Same goes for Iroh. And Pakku. Maybe.
Andy Serkis as Bumi :LOS

[Superrazien]

Sammo Hung Needs to be Iroh
http://www.wu-jing.org/News/images/2004/2004_06_07_Sammo_Hung_tkp.jpg
http://sensasian.com/images/sammohung.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/Karenjade/Fire%20Nation/Iroh.jpg
http://water-bender.com/images/bios/iroh.jpg

[ReikaiDemon]

Sammo Hung Needs to be Iroh
http://www.wu-jing.org/News/images/2004/2004_06_07_Sammo_Hung_tkp.jpg
http://sensasian.com/images/sammohung.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/Karenjade/Fire%20Nation/Iroh.jpg
http://water-bender.com/images/bios/iroh.jpg
Oho! I see someone knows of Sammo Hung! :iria

Should be pretty good, he's still going strong, he was pretty good in Fatal Move http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EPZFKhK3ec

[Superstarseven]

You know, if Sammo Hung has kept up with his English since the cancellation of Martial Law then he can totally be Iroh. I'm hoping that at least some of the cast are Asian and maybe with a South Asian in the director's seat, that won't be much of a problem. I hope M.Night brushes up on some Miyazaki, classic chop socky Kung Fu B-Movies and Hong Kong action films. Sifu Kisu would be the logical and obvious choice for martial arts choreographer but ultimately it's up to him if he wants to work on these films for a year and a half.
For Aang I'd like to see a lot of Wire Fu, if he's supposed to represent wind/air then he must move like the element that he can manipulate.

Whoa...here I am making demands. Unfortunately Avatar in it's animated form can never make it to the big screen because the story has already been told in that medium so I can only hope that the live action films will be nice summary of the 61 episode series.

Lastly I will, today on the 23 of July, submit to you the first pre-review of The Last Airbender directed by M. Night Shyamalan.





The tv show is better.

[Bolt Crank]

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6947/sokkabatmanoi3hn9.png

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4153/azulajoker1ft2cs5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9045/sokkabatman2fp7oj1.png

nanananananananana BAT SOKKA!!!

[ReikaiDemon]

Because, by and large, the American film industry is controlled by stupid people. Dont you mean by and large, the American film industry is controlled by smart people who know that films will only sell if they are simple enough for the general audience, which IS made up of stupid people? Wow, these guys hit the nail on head, just felt this was related.

The tv show is better.Like we didn't know that before? :zaru It's the truth of the universe there


You know, if Sammo Hung has kept up with his English since the cancellation of Martial Law then he can totally be Iroh. I'm hoping that at least some of the cast are Asian and maybe with a South Asian in the director's seat, that won't be much of a problem. I hope M.Night brushes up on some Miyazaki, classic chop socky Kung Fu B-Movies and Hong Kong action films. Sifu Kisu would be the logical and obvious choice for martial arts choreographer but ultimately it's up to him if he wants to work on these films for a year and a half.
For Aang I'd like to see a lot of Wire Fu, if he's supposed to represent wind/air then he must move like the element that he can manipulate.I think it would also be nice if Yuen Woo Ping help out Kisu with the action sequences, and some of the direction of the movie

Let's just assume that Jet Li works as Jeong Jeong. Which of the old masters would Jackie Chan, Sonny Chiba and Chow Yun Fat match up with?Sonny Chiba would obviously be Piandao, speaking of, I just remembered that there was an actual White Lotus society in ancient China, they helped the first emperor of the Ming dynasty to ascend to power.http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6947/sokkabatmanoi3hn9.png

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4153/azulajoker1ft2cs5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9045/sokkabatman2fp7oj1.png

nanananananananana BAT SOKKA!!!
Joker Azula is dead on :LOS
And Bat Sokka would only exist if Sokka's dad died :sag Yes, interesting change in middle of the story by M.Night, er, me XD

[Taurus Versant]

I wish I knew actors at all, I could help with the discussion.

Who does psychotic well enough to be Azula? Who does gar well enough to be Ozai?

[Ha-ri]

I don't know why, but Yuen Wah from Kung Fu Hustle seems like he'd be good as Ozai, I don't know maybe Takeshi Kitano .

So who's better on this film being push and advertised like no other, and who's saying its gonna fly by unnoticed?

[Jotun]

Well, I enjoyed the ending, but it doesn't end well imo. I didn't have problems with Spirit Bending or w/e the fuck that was, I am also glad Aang did not kill Ozai.

Only one thing truly bothers me and it is the scene where Zuko asks about his mom. Why.

It just ruined it for me, really. I know there might be some more content next year (maybe not) but ya. This series could have really done well with an Epilogue episode.

Really, 20 more mins.

I am so disgusted right now.

[Jove]

I'm seeing rumblings and rumors that Zutarians are plotting some sort of rebellion, and are going to try to overtake the Q&A and ask nothing but questions about Zutara.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

[Seto Kaiba]

I'm seeing rumblings and rumors that Zutarians are plotting some sort of rebellion, and are going to try to overtake the Q&A and ask nothing but questions about Zutara.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/thetechkid/Smiles/Sokkapalm.png

I also heard they're going to try to heckle and boo Mike and Bryan off the stage...

[Kaenboshi]

I also heard they're going to try to heckle and boo Mike and Bryan off the stage...http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5333/sokkapalmzr2.png

[Superstarseven]

What a selfish bunch of morons. Not morons because they enjoy the idea of Zutara but planning to embarrass creators of something they were entertained by for 4 years...for free! It's not a surprise when they start writing essays on Kataang happening "just because (http://redgyl.deviantart.com/art/He-Didn-t-Love-Her-92396811)".

[Noah]

Mike and Bryan better have this statement prepared for the panel:

"Now...before we get into the issue, let us just clarify one thing for all you Zutara fans."
"We really thought about the idea, especially after seeing such a huge following for it. And, in fact, we actually liked the idea."
"However...this is Aang's story, and Aang deserves the girl."
"Besides...Zuko has Mai, it was never even hinted at, you're all retarded, write your own story and get a job you nerds."

When my super galactic Mayan story gets picked up, that's going to be my opening statement at the SDCC panel following the finale.

[Michael Jacksőn]

What a selfish bunch of morons. Not morons because they enjoy the idea of Zutara but planning to embarrass creators of something they were entertained by for 4 years...for free! It's not a surprise when they start writing essays on Kataang happening "just because (http://redgyl.deviantart.com/art/He-Didn-t-Love-Her-92396811)".

Oh my god!! WTF IS THIS ZUTARA SHIT!!

I am so fuckin pissed right now. I just joined Deviantart to curse that bitch out right now.

[The Cheat]

Has aang ever had to face reality?

[Michael Jacksőn]

Has aang ever had to face reality?

How do you mean?

[The Cheat]

How do you mean?

I'm debating with dave-shan, he said aang never matured because he never had to face reality and because he ran away from learning the true meaning of fire bending in FBM, ran away from the thought of that katara may not love him in EIP,tried to run away from finding a firebending teacher in WAT, and tried to run away from the thought of killing ozai.