Nickelodean's "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Discusion

[Jove]

Wow, the second one. The kid who plays Aang has hit puberty, wonder how that will affect the mini-episodes?

Time-skip anyone:awesome
Though personally I hoping for more background stories like from Roku's Earthbending teacher or Kyoshi's founding the Dai Li.

Zach Eisen's voice has apparently been deepening for a while now. In Book 3, they've been forced to pitch his voice up, which is why Aang sounds slightly off if you listen closely at times. Not pitching it up for the commercial is either an attempt to make the fandom explode with speculation, or Nick's being lazy again.

I'm on watch for the Azula/Zuko commercial, now that Wimbledon's over. It's been out for at least a day now, from what I hear. I'm amazed it's not all over the forums yet.

[Superstarseven]

Great stuff right there. For those who don't know, because they get their Avatar news from a Naruto fansite, The creators will once again grace San Diego Comic-Con with their presence.

"FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: One week after the last 10 episodes will air on Nickelodeon, the "Avatar: The Last Airbender" panel will be at the San Diego Comic Con on Friday evening, July 25, 7:30-9:15pm in one of the (big!) 2000 person rooms. Please join co-creators Mike DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko and director Joaquim Dos Santos for a screening of the final chapters 320 & 321 and other fun activities (details to follow shortly on Nick.com and the SDCC website). Friday passes are almost sold out, so please act fast! We really want to see as many fans as possible in the room! On Saturday, Mike and Bryan will do a poster signing (time and details to follow). See you in San Diego!"

Sounds like loads of fun right there. I'd like for a camera to start recording at the instant of point-of-no-return Kataang.
Hopefully we'll also get some news on the future of the series and/or franchise.

[Jove]

Great stuff right there. For those who don't know, because they get their Avatar news from a Naruto fansite, The creators will once again grace San Diego Comic-Con with their presence.



Sounds like loads of fun right there. I'd like for a camera to start recording at the instant of point-of-no-return Kataang.
Hopefully we'll also get some news on the future of the series and/or franchise.

I'd like for a camera to start rolling and be allowed to continue rolling. But the live feed will be choppier than Martin Yan, so it will be a wait for footage, no matter what.

[Mider T]

I get in town July 24th as well? Fuck yeah

[\zol]

Nice commercials.. are they any more with different characters. besides rumored Azula/Zuko? Anyway the anticipation is building and I'm glad Nick is doing something at the very least


Damn.. It's almost here!!!

[Jove]

My thoughts on today's episodes:

City of Walls and Secrets

---Considering that this had been an 18 month, 31 episode wait for the great city of Ba Sing Se, the official entrance was spectacular. The music is amongst the Track team's finest for the show, however brief. It's so stirring and majestic. And the layouts, the background designs, the coloring... fantastic. The tour, however, is equally as satisfying. Ba Sing Se's given as much depth as a human character, with it's rigidness, squalor, and sprawl.

--- This episode was nominated for an Emmy, and it's easy to see why they offered it for consideration. This is a terrific example of why Avatar is such a great show. It's not simply the content and subject matter. That's not enough. It's the balance of different tones, paces, emotions, and content that elevates it so much higher than most shows.

--- The theme of this episode is obviously class struggle, government secrecy , thought and information control, etc., but it's also more abstract than that as well. It's about obsession and frustration. The Gaang is obsessed with meeting the Earth King, and frustrated by Joo Dee and Long Feng, as Jet is obsessed with proving Zuko and Iroh are Fire Nation, and frustrated by their ability to thwart him.

--- Both converge in one of the finest sequences in Avatar, the famous ending with Jet's brainwashing by the Dai Li, narrated by Long Feng's calm explanation of the disturbing innerworkings of the city.

--- And there's my favorite hybrid animal, the sparrow-keets.

--- I have to mention the Dai Li's leitmotif, some of the creepiest recurring music in the show. People really liked them, and the song is a big reason why, apart for being so naturally awesome.

--- Hey, wouldn't you know, Zuko's about to get in a fight and that soldier just happened to have broad swords!

Tales of Ba Sing Se

--- This was a WILDLY controversial episode in the fandom. The misuse of the word "filler" exploded with this episode (and the succeeding one). I decry it completely. As I said in the reminder post, I always get the feeling watching this episode that we're not merely getting character development for our protagonists, but we're learning about Ba Sing Se itself. We're meeting it's streets, it's citizens, it's life. Look at the scenes closely; there's almost always people walking around in the background, fully animated. The city is alive.

--- Anyway: Iroh > Sokka > Zuko > Momo > Aang > Katara and Toph.

--- I'm really glad the dedication to Mako was a legitimate part of the episode. There was some worry that it was a one-time thing for broadcast only. You can here Mako's replacement, Greg Baldwin, during the scene with the kid's playing their Earthbending football game.

--- With CoWaS and this episode, we see just how tenebrous Ba Sing Se is, as there's often a darkness to many of the scenes. At night, the city is so dim, and there's a really cool green tinge to everything. I love those green flames they use.

--- Subtle things: Look at the guy behind Zuko when he drops everything trying to juggle. He's REALLY angry at him for it.

[Nizuma Eiji]

MORE commercials:

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I believe the person taping the second is having a stroke.

Holy shit, wtf did Zach Eisen's balls drop?
Lol that don't even sound like Aang anymore.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 15: Appa’s Day


Episodes

Book 2: Earth, Chapter 16: Appa’s Lost Days

Book 2: Earth, Chapter 17: Lake Laogai

Book 2: Earth, Chapter 18: The Earth King


Now comfortable within the confines of Ba Sing Se, it’s time to take care of the two objectives that brought everyone to the city: to find Appa and meet the Earth King.

Everything revolves around Appa today. We learn more about Appa’s journey to Ba Sing Se. Forced into the circus, engaging in vicious battles, and passing over old and future allies along the way, Appa’s trip was not as direct as previously thought.

Finding Appa becomes top priority once the Gaang is reintroduced to Jet. Jet had found one of the many flyers the Gaang had peppered the city with after finally shunning the stifling rules of the city. Finding it hard to trust Jet, they eventually are led to the great underground prison, Lake Laogai. Appa might be there waiting for them, but Long Feng and the Dai Li certainly are. In the battle that ensues, someone is not making it out alive, and some Nick executives are going to FREAK OUT about it.

Alas, Jet was not the only old friend to find one of the flyers. Zuko, slowly beginning to adjust to AB Sing Se, is completely upended by the thought of the Avatar so close, and he once again assumes the persona of the Blue Spirit, and also finds himself within Lake Laogai. However, he was being trailed. As he reaches Appa, Uncle Iroh finally confronts Zuko. It’s time for Zuko to make a choice.

That choice leaves Zuko seemingly unable to turn back, and his turmoil reaches it’s apex in the aftermath. But the Gaang, having now openly defied Long Feng and the Dai Li, they storm the Earth King’s palace in order to reveal to him the war, and the subterfuge of his Grand Secretariat.

As they begin to deal with the ramifications from such revelations, they are all sent in different directions. As they prepare to leave Ba Sing Se for a brief while, a few new friends arrive: the Kyoshi Warriors. Or, at least, that’s what they assume.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[Mider T]

Another deleted entry :facepalm Which means another short one

Rewatch: Day 15 Thoughts


Appa’s Lost Days

This episode nearly moved me to tears for many reasons, one because of Appa's mistreatment, two because of how he kept missing the Gaang, and three because of the amazing foreshadowing. With so little dialouge, so much was expressed in 23 minutes as we saw Appa's journey from his being captured, to Ty Lee's old circus, to Suki and her gang's battle with Azula, to the Eastern Air Temple, to Ba Sing Se. It also made sense from Momo's story last episode. Nicely done. 17/20


Lake Laogai

Wow, is all I have to say. The action, the thrill, the emotional heartbreak of the place that is Lake Laogai is astounding. The search Appa and fate leads the Gaang with Jet in tow and Zuko donning his Blue Spirit persona to the brainwashing zone known as Lake Laogai, where Appa is being held. A fight with the Dai Li ensues with Jet getting fatally hurt, while Zuko releases Appa and after a talk with his uncle, the Blue Spirit as well. Things are finally back to normal (well sort of).


The Earth King

The Gaang finally meet the big man in charge of the big city and inform him of everything that's going on, to find out that he's a figurehead (he didn't even know there was a war). Sokka tells of his plan for victory while Katara and Toph want to just get out of there. Zuko has a mental war with physical signs after his uncertainty at Lake Laogai, while the Gaang all recieves good news and split up. The good times don't last though as it is shown being a trap and Azula and her gang poses as the Kyoshi warriors. 15/20

Final Conclusion: The episodes were pretty self explanatory but I found this which is pretty interesting Sokka and Katara's mother's name-Shiarala-, history, and appearance will be revealed. It is said that she was the greatest Waterbender in the Southern Water Tribe. She was also a Healer and herbalist, according to the "Avatar: The Ultimate Pocket Guide"

[Princess Mahi]

almost the 14th!

[Taurus Versant]

Looking forward to The Southern Raiders greatly now.

[Dimezanime20]

Let me get this straight; Nick is planning on showing 5 straight new episodes of Avatar in the same week, and they plan to end it off with a 2 hour 'movie'?

[Taurus Versant]

That's what we've been hearing. Hard to believe since it's Nick, but I reckon they're just as, if not more, confused than us. :zaru

[Kusuriuri]

so Avatar is gonna end in a few weeks....:cry

that final episode better be amazing to make up for the wait

[Taurus Versant]

I have my full belief in it, and I've avoided spoilers completely.

Personally, everyone I see who got into Avatar after it ended and didn't have to wait... :sun

[Dimezanime20]

That's what we've been hearing. Hard to believe since it's Nick, but I reckon they're just as, if not more, confused than us. :zaru

It was a Nick commercial that was my source. I just wanted to confirm that I heard it correctly.

[Lord Snow]

It was a Nick commercial that was my source. I just wanted to confirm that I heard it correctly.

You heard correctly but Nick being Nick means that anything they say is subject to change,

[Dimezanime20]

You heard correctly but Nick being Nick means that anything they say is subject to change,

...Damn...

[Nizuma Eiji]

I have my full belief in it, and I've avoided spoilers completely.

Personally, everyone I see who got into Avatar after it ended and didn't have to wait... :sun

Those people get a big fuck you from me. Fuckin bastards, wont know the pain of having to wait months inbetween the airings of episodes during the season, & the 9 month wait between book 2 & 3. It gets me pissed just remembering the waits.

[Taurus Versant]

Seriously, I only came in halfway through Black Sun, and I was pissed at Nick's crap. I can only imagine what you guys musta felt.

[Jove]

You heard correctly but Nick being Nick means that anything they say is subject to change,

Your skepticism is well-founded, but this isn't going to change. It's going to be:

July 14: 312: The Western Air Temple
July 15: 313: The Firebending Masters
July 16: 314: The Boiling Rock, Part 1
July 16: 315: The Boiling Rock, Part 2
July 17: 316: The Southern Raiders
July 18: 317: The Ember Island Players
July 19: 318: Sozin's Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King
July 19: 319: Sozin's Comet, Part 2: The Old Masters
July 19: 320: Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno
July 19: 321: Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang

I'd love for them to change it. I'd love for them to air one episode a month, one episode a year, once episode a decade, and let the show drag on, but it's going to be a white light and then the story of Aang and Zuko will be over.

My thoughts on today's episodes:

Appa's Lost Days

--- Together with Tales of Ba Sing Se, this is an extremely controversial episode. There was somehow even more debate about this episode. Was it necessary? Was it filler? Do you even understand what filler means? All topics intensely debated, and things got out of hand, since Lake Laogai was delayed a week.

--- I for one thought it was an excellent premise. I'd call it a "fill-in" episode. I love all the near-misses, and the hints at future episodes. There's no debate on this: this is the episode that set up the remainder of Book 2. Iroh withholding Appa's presence from Zuko, Hakoda on his ship, the confrontation between the Kyoshi Warriors and Ozai's Angels... all of it had immediate relevance.

--- The kid at the circus is a real precursor to one of the (half-accomplished) themes of Book 3: that the Fire Nation citizens are decent people like anyone else in the Avatar nations. In fact, he kind of represents a theme of the entire show, as his design is basically a combination of a young Aang and Zuko.

--- Some of my favorite scenes in Avatar are the ones that show the vibrant past of the Air Temples. And this episode is doubly great, because we see the unspeakably adorable Sky Bison pups, and Female Airbenders! I kind of wish we had gotten to see more of the West-East Temple history.

Lake Laogai

--- The scheduling for this episode, at the time, was infuriating. If you came to the show after Book 2 you probably don't know this, but Avatar often aired every other week. You wouldn't know if an episode would air the next week unless there were clips in the c If there were no clips, the next episode would air the following week. Lake Laogai was supposed to be such an episode. So after a two week wait, Lake Laogai was tensely awaited. And then, with no warning, it didn't air. People went a little nuts, some freaked out a bit. We had no clue how innocuous this would seem compared to what was ahead.

--- So I was underwhelmed a tad when it aired, but I've come around. I felt it was drawn too darkly. I also HATED the lie detector plot device, which simply arose and then basically vanished after this episode. At the time, Toph seemed to be reaching outlandish levels, but the real problem was that it was flippantly introduced.

--- I also remember Mike and Bryan saying that Lake Laogai had their favorite fight scene in the whole series (up to that point). So there was no way it could live up to expectations, but I can really appreciate it now. It's total bedlam.

--- So the Dai Li are elite... pfff, "elite" is warm-up for the Blue Spirit. The dropping of the mask into the lake was a great ending, right up there with the burning staff in The Awakening. And, of course, another parallel.

--- Jet's death... oh boy. So many problems arose from this. Bryan Konietzko let slip in an interview a while ago that this one REALLY freaked out Nick. It would be easy to say that the more lighthearted and sophomoric aspects of Book 3 are directly related to this, but I'd hate to say that if it was simply a choice of Mike and Bryan. Either way, Jet's such a classically tragic figure. His death is what really puts Book 2 over the fringe as one of the best seasons of any show.

The Earth King

--- Wow, I had forgot that the storming of the palace was basically the entire first act. It's pretty strange... it's such a detailed and well choreographed fight, and yet it's a fight between allies, and there's no real build-up, and nothing is really at stake. There really is some phenomenal bending in there.

--- There's been some talk of the Campbellian nature of Avatar, and besides the Hero's Journey, the importance of dreams is probably the most important aspect. One of Campbell's main concepts was the relevance of dreams in the hero's story, and Zuko's dreams here certainly reflect that. It really gives away Zuko's equality to Aang in the story, as well. Throughout the entirety of Avatar, they've been the two characters to struggle with cryptic and disturbing dreams. Watching these scenes... I need to see the finale NOW. Godammit. NOW.

--- I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Clancy Brown is absolutely brilliant as Long Feng.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 16: Bookends


Episodes

Book 2: Earth, Chapter 19: The Guru

Book 2: Earth, Chapter 20: The Crossroads of Destiny

“It’s time.” That’s how the commercial for today’s episodes began. And it is just the sort of succinctly powerful phrase we’d expect from Avatar. Aired together as a two-part finale, these episodes touch upon and resolve the beginning of Book 2.

It’s time for Aang to master the Avatar State. Having traveled to the Eastern Air Temple to train with Guru Pathik, we all get a lesson in chakra. But when he senses that Katara is in trouble, Aang must decide whether it’s more important to be the Avatar or save his friend.

Meanwhile, back in Ba Sing Se, Azula begins to corrode the city from the inside. Having the perfect cover as a Kyoshi Warrior, she can move around freely. In order to gain allies, she aligns with Long Feng, who has forces but is imprisoned. As they both plot against the Earth King together, they plot against each other. Azula’s plan appears to succeed, until Aang appears.

In order to stop the other, both of them require the support of one person: Zuko. Having begun to finally accept life as a common person living in normalcy, Zuko’s completely upended by Azula’s emergence. Having banished him in The Avatar State, now she takes Zuko into custody. She eventually pleads with him to join her in vanquishing the Avatar, while Iroh tries to convince Zuko that it’s time to help Aang.

It’s time for Zuko to finally make his decision. Ba Sing Se, the World, and, as it turns out, the fury of an entire fandom hangs in the balance.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[Ritsu]

Pardon me if this has been asked/answered already, but it seems like bending can be used to manipulate two "powers."

Firebending would allow for fire -> lightning
Earthbending would be earth -> metals
Waterbending water -> ice
Airbending is air ->???

Is there a possibility for Aang to discover a new refined power from airbending?

Hey that's true! Although I think since ice is just the solidified state of H2O, it still counts as waterbending. But waterbenders also have the potential to learn bloodbending. So yeah, they each have the potential to bend two powers.

Also, for a brief while there were "sandbenders" in the dessert. I guess that falls under earth? But Toph wasn't able to do it if I recall.

Anywho, yeah that's a pretty cool idea. I wonder what the airbending special technique is.

[Princess Mahi]

I'm most looking forward to the SOuthern Raiders, and the finale of course!

[Vault]

the episodes need to hurry :C

[arcanecapricorn]

The Phoenix King and the Old Masters look like they might be the more crucial episodes. i wonder how Zuko's mother is going to fit in all this........

[Mider T]

Rewatch: Day 16 Thoughts


The Guru


Sokka meets up with his father Hakoda, Toph goes home to see her parents, Katara plans the Fire Nation's downfall with Earth Kingdom Generals, Aang goes to train under Guru Pathik to control the Avatar State. For the first time in a long time things are finally looking up for the Gaang, but as the always do things go sour quickly. Toph's "letter" turns out to be a trap set by the old tutor and the Boulder, who've encased her in metal so she can't see. Aang has to unlock his chakras in his body to fully control the Avatar State, which he goes through pretty easily (with the help of Banana Juice:awesome). Things turn more rotten as Azula and her gana disguised as the Kyoshi warriors secretly plan a coup d'etat with Long Feng, who in turn promises her the Avatar. Katara finds out that Zuko and Iroh are in the city and runs off to warn the Earth King just as Azula and her gang are there. Meanwhile Aang learns of the sacrifices he must make to control the power (Katara) he argues and decides that he rather go save her than to have that kind of power parallel to Toph earthbending her way out of METAL. The rest must be watched because it's truly a mouthful. 19.5/20


The Crossroads of Destiny

We find Aang going to pick up Sokka and Toph rushing back to Ba Sing Se because of the trouble afoot, there surely is as Azula captures Zuko and Iroh. Though that manage to get away (Iroh breathes fire), Zuko goes back to settle things with his little sister to which Iroh :facepalms. Then some more stuff happens then- ah shit, gotta go.

Final Conclusion: Jove, pick up for me will ya? thnxuradoll

[♠Mr.Nibbles♠]

Im truly gonna miss the series when it is done. It was a great run though.

I kinda dont wanna see the last eps in a manner of all at once since the series was so good I can wait, but I dont wanna wait b/c I wanna know what happens at the end and such.
The agony:argh

[\zol]

Movie is on Saturday?!


WAAHHH I got to find a way to weasel out of a wedding. :/

[Sylar]

Movie is on Saturday?!


WAAHHH I got to find a way to weasel out of a wedding. :/

Push the groom down some stairs. :nod

[Superstarseven]

Ok for those who will inevitably ask if there is going to be a fourth season of Avatar, I'm asking you to read the quote below which comes straight from the blog of Johanne Matte who worked on the show as a storyboarder.

Dated the 29th of June
Johanne Matte Says:
This past Friday, all traces of Avatar's presence started to disappear from the Nick offices: no more wall of fanarts, the original storyboards were pulled out of their cabinets, put in boxes and ready for storage. I managed to get one of the three Fire Nation flags that used to welcome guests as we climbed the stairs to the Avatar crew's area (Thank you Katie!). Someone dared me to bring it to Comicon, hee hee. I think I will!
*sigh*
I'll also be bringing a whole bunch of Water Tribe minis at SDCC. Free copies to any costumed Avatar fans (if they want it, of course)! I'll be at the Flight table most of the time (booth 1228). We should have Flight 5 with us. I'm not in this one, but there are awesome talented people in it, with quite a few stories I would call epic adventures.
Avatar finale in a mere two weeks. The End Is NEEEEEAAAAAAAR!!!WAAAAUUUUUGH!
Forget that little kiddie book that came out: the animation kicks @$$!!

http://rufftoon.livejournal.com/38145.html#cutid1
Oh by the way, this picture is great
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/rufftoon/?action=view&current=kungfubending.jpg
She was hired by Dreamworks so of course it was an opportunity for a crossover.

[Jove]

Ok for those who will inevitably ask if there is going to be a fourth season of Avatar, I'm asking you to read the quote below which comes straight from the blog of Johanne Matte who worked on the show as a storyboarder.


A momento mori, yes. I'd put the odds of a fourth season of Avatar (first season of new story/project) at 20%. That's an extremely generous percentage, I'd concede. If the first movie is lackluster, 3%.

My thoughts on today's episodes:

The Guru

--- My other Polkian dark horse top ten episode. I adore the episode that are surreal and phantasmagorical, and this episode is the artistic zenith of that in Avatar. Each chakra has it's own setting (as usual, with breathtaking layout and background designs), color tinge, and dream sequencing. the Heart Chakra scene is so beautiful, it recalls the Avatar State sequence in The Avatar State so well. But what separates this episode from The Swamp is that so much happens. Avatar is masterful at the two-part episode, because they put so much effort into the build half as the payoff half.

--- Azula's coup de etat is a brilliant twist. It takes the ethos of the Drill and contorts it; just as they brought down the drill from the inside, Azula will strangle the Earth Kingdom from within.

--- Here's why Toph's metalbending is fantastic, and her lie detector skills are infuriating: the relevance. There was no craft to the display of lie dectecting; she simply told us she could always do it. And then she basically never did it again. But the metalbending came not only with struggle, but was directly related to Guru Pathik's excellent narrative on the elements. The pan down into a pan down to Toph's scene was superb.

--- I really love Cosmic Aang. That sequence with Aang walking through the heavens towards his ethereal counterpart is one of my favorites in the show. It's so evocative.

The Crossroads of Destiny

--- A spectacular finale. As the SOTN was a resolving finale, this was a classic twist-and-cliffhanger, adroitly accomplished. Two legitimate twists occur, Zuko's turn and Azula killing Aang. Azula killing Aang certainly seemed astounding then, and is pretty weird to watch knowing for certain that Aang did die from it, but obviously this whole episode is about Zuko's turn.

--- As I hinted at in the reminder post, the fandom FREAKED OUT over this. In retrospect, we should have seen it coming. Since Zuko's main plot curve was to join the group, it had to be an option that he would do the converse, but it was such a gutshot when it happened. Now, I thought it was brilliant, the perfect cap to a season defined by it's singular artistry, but others weren't so pleased. People basically went bonkers.

--- "Now comes the part where I double-cross you." My favorite line in the show. Long Feng kills me. Clancy Brown is the perfect voice.

--- And I'd have to say that this is my favorite fight overall. What I love about it is that roles are reversed. Zuko and Katara are incredible, while Aang is totally useless and godawful, and Azula is more human than normal. Katara doesn't just prevail over her; Katara manhandles and dismantles her. And Zuko fights with more focus and power than every previous fight combined.


Book 2 Thoughts

--- I can only be so blunt: this is a perfect season. Seasons such as Season 6 of South Park, Season 3 of Mr. Show, Series 1 of The League of Gentlemen; Book 2 of Avatar stands with and above them. The writing is nuanced, the animation and art is phenomenal and intricate, the acting is flawless, the direction is brisk and unobtrusive; every works.

--- And while Book 2 had been criticized for a lack of direction early on in the season, the opposite is the case. It's the most thematically focused of the three Books, by far. The pull between Iroh and Azula over Zuko is a constant theme throughout Book 2, as well as Aang's love for Katara. But the Avatar State was the overlying device hanging over the entirety of Book 2, and the pay-off carried with it the emotions of the entire journey.

--- There's also plenty of conceptual themes that run throughout Book 2. Trust and manipulation is one. Azula's innate ability to manipulate Zuko, numerous person's desire to manipulate Aang's power, etc. Another is the deceptive veneer of things. Looking through all the chapters of Book 2, this is almost the predominant them of the season. Azula and co. as the Kyoshi Warriors, Ba Sing Se's grand facade hiding it's disturbing mechanisms, Bumi's presumed capitulation actually being strategy, the story of Avatar Kyoshi, and so on.

--- The job done with Azula is incredible. People weren't convinced that she was an adequate antagonist as late as The Drill. Was there any doubt by the end of The Crossroads of Destiny? Likewise, Aang and Zuko's characters are redefined, in Zuko's case at least four times over.

--- Obviously Book 3 took giant steps back at times in some areas, but what I have to stress is that Avatar doesn't seem to purposely undermine it's status as a "kid's show." It follows it's own artistry, allowing the idiosyncrasies of the show to present themselves, and they often do with dignity and substance and depth.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 17: After a Nine Month Wait


Episodes

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 1: The Awakening

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 2: The Headband

While Aang slept off his death, the world of Avatar, the show, was flung into confusion. As more and more time passed without any news on the beginning of Book 3, it became apparent that new episodes were not merely being delayed,; the show was on a de facto hiatus. It would be a 9 and a half month gap between The Crossroads of Destiny and the Awakening.

Aang wakes up to find himself aboard a Fire Nation prison ship. Scared, he tries to flee, but discovers that he is actually amongst his friends, which, to him, is even worse. Ashamed, Aang struggles with his failure in Ba Sing Se and his inability to do anything due to his injuries. When he finally accepts these things, the Gaang enter the Fire Nation, and begin to unravel the mystery of the land, and it’s people. Aang begins by attending a Fire Nation school, where he learns that the kids in the Fire Nation are indoctrinated early, and their freedom stifled in numerous ways.

Meanwhile, Prince Zuko, after a three year absence, finally returns to his country, his people, and, his father. Although the reunion with all three go exceedingly well, he once again finds himself trapped when he discovers that Azula gave him the glory for the Avatar’s “death.” Understanding the complications from this, fully aware that Aang survived Azula’s attack, he makes plans to take care of the problem. After a tense consultation with an uncooperative Iroh, he hires the services of an assaasin, as we meet our new Book 3 antagonist: Combustion Man.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[Mider T]

Rewatch: Day 17


The Awakening

Well after the epic that was Ba Sing Se and the Gaang's narrow escape from it, Aang reawakens to Katara healing him (Azula left a large and nasty scar). Being disrupted in the Avatar state made Aang unable to achieve it again and his failure gets to him. He quickly finds out that he is on a fire nation boat with Sokka and the rest of the Water tribe members as Sokka debriefs him on the activity between the escape and now. Sokka still has a plan for victory at the Day of Black Sun but Aang's mind is elsewhere. He also feels completely in the way and totally helpless since he has to pretend he is dead to avoid suspicion which is parallel to Zuko's return to the fire nation and his status as a Prince returned. He's happy to be back but feels awkward as hard as Azula, Ty Lee, and Mai (new girlfriend) try to make him fit in. Azula also has played him for a dummy telling her father that he slew Aang so as to make him responsible if he's not truly dead even though he recieves tremendous honor if he is. In another place, Aang in frustration goes off on his own to defeat Fire Lord Ozai now but gets caught in a storm and, after some wise words from Avatar Roku, decides to follow Sokka's plan tossing his glider into a volcano. 16.5/20


The Headband

After leaving the last freedom fighters and water tribe warriors, the Gaang sneaks further into the fire nation and dons it's apparel as well, with Aang using a headband to cover his arrow. They use this clothing to blend in once they get to town, Aang gets separated from the group and is forced to go to school (Sukuru Deizu anyone:awesome) in which the whole class thinks he's from the Fire Nation colonies in the Earth Kingdom due to his strange behavior. Later that night, Aang comes back to Sokka like a kid on the first day of Kindergarden explaining how much he likes it, Sokka reluctantly lets him stay. Elsewhere, Zuko confronts Iroh about how he could've been a hero had he just helped him but Iroh doesn't even offer him any words leaving Zuko to storm out. Aang stands out of the crowd even more as forged history gets him in a quiz, dances in a no-dance zone, and starting a fight in which he didn't evne throw a punch. Such trouble earns him a parent-teacher conference that "Mr. Wang Fire" and "Mrs. Sapphire Fire" (Sokka and Katara respectifully) attend. They get away with it but Sokka is still againist Aang continuing school but Aang believes he can show the young Fire Nation how to express themselves. At the capital, Azula interrupts Zuko and Mai's date ask Zuko about his whereabouts. When she finds out, she warns Zuko not visit Iroh anymore but he does exactly that trying with kindness this time. Iroh again shuns him with silence with the same result though this time Iroh sheds a single tear. Aang arranges a night dance party which is a huge sucess (and Katara is a bit annoyed with his dancing with another girl, Sukuru Deizu anyone:awesome) until the Headmaster shows up with the tattler that lost in that "fight" againist Aang. The Gaang is quick to make their exit and ride off on Appa in the night with Aang receiving a kiss from Katara for his efforts and Sokka still having the Wang Fire beard on his face. In another place Zuko meets a wrestler like man and hires him to be a hit man to track down the avatar because he's good at what he does and even better at keeping secrets. This man has a 3rd eye tatooed on his forehead and a few metal limbs. 15.5/20

Final Conclusion: There's no way I could've rated these episodes any higher after seeing the Crossroads of Destiny. There's just no way. I mean they where enjoyable in their own right but still....well you know. Anyhow, I want to see how the Gaang disguising as Fire Nationers is going to play out, as well as Zuko's uncertainty about his position being returned to him and his blossoming romance with Mai. We're getting close people, we're getting close.

[St. Jimmy]

8l--FP2EeUM
This AMV PWN'Z

[Mider T]

You know... I think Jove and I deserve some rep for what we do for this thread everyday.

[Dimezanime20]

Lo, well thanks for keeping it alive.

[Dimezanime20]

Wait, who made this thread 4 stars?

[Jove]

Wait, who made this thread 4 stars?

5 stars now. :LOS

As for rep, I think it's pretty clear that I get by on my own self-satisfaction. Most of the time, I actually have to edit down my Rewatch posts.

[Mider T]

My last two reps

Nickelodean's "Avatar:... 07-09-2008 10:26 PM masterriku pfft fine
Nickelodean's "Avatar:... 07-09-2008 10:08 PM Jove On the contrary, my good man. YOU deserve it.

:lmao

[masterriku]

On the darkersider i wonder how this theard will dissappear will it be here far longer than it should be.coughtengentoppacough

Then suddenly reappear when the movie comes out coughtengentoppacough.

I really do want them to expand on the avatarverse tho instead of playing spongebob from 1-5 daily.

[Dimezanime20]

On the darkersider i wonder how this theard will dissappear will it be here far longer than it should be.coughtengentoppacough

Then suddenly reappear when the movie comes out coughtengentoppacough.

I really do want them to expand on the avatarverse tho instead of playing spongebob from 1-5 daily.

There won't be a Book 4, but I've heard that there will be another story told relating to the Avatar.

[Kaenboshi]

Only a little while longer. :whoo

Also, if anyone here has Nicktoons Network, you can watch the entire series next week (if you didn't keep with the rerun, or just want to watch it again) because of a week long marathon.

[Taurus Versant]

Aren't they planning something for a different Avatar, a different time in that world?

Personally, I think they're wrapping up The Last Airbender, getting the fuck out of Nick and starting fresh with a real company.

[Kaenboshi]

^

Apparently, there are some mini episodes planned next. http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9468/fallplansonwardqg3.jpg Not spectacular sounding, but better than nothing, I guess.

[Mider T]

lol they're just gonna ask again next page, but I'm waiting for the movie. That'll be great.

[Taurus Versant]

I always love it when people ask questions that have been answered less than ten posts ago.

[Mider T]

I loved this

um is this some kind of DB live action movie?

In the thread titled "Live Action DBZ Movie", page 27 lol last post of the page.

[Taurus Versant]

The internet :edu

[Hunter x One Piece]

Am I the only one who thinks

Avatar > Naruto?

[Mider T]

Hey, last time I saw you you had one red now you have one green.

Good for you.

[Kaenboshi]

Am I the only one who thinks

Avatar > Naruto?No. fdfsfdsafasfsafas

[Taurus Versant]

It's a common thought. But then again, we try not to discuss the evil of that "thing" in here. This is Avatar territory.

[Snow]

Can someone direct me to the dates and such that which episodes are supposed to air?

Or when the episodes past "The Boiling Rock" are scheduled to air rather.

[Taurus Versant]

Starting next week I think.

[Snow]

Next week the new episodes begin, or the episodes after Boiling Rock?

[Taurus Versant]

Umm, it should be the four parter on the Friday or Saturday, so that's both parts of the Boiling Rock, The Southern Raiders and Ember Isle Players over the week. Possibly The Western Air Temple and The Firebending Masters, I'm not sure whether they've played yet.

[Kaenboshi]

Next week the new episodes begin, or the episodes after Boiling Rock? It starts with the Western Air Temple and ends with Sozin's Comet. Schedule breaks down like this:

Monday: Western Air Temple
Tuesday: The Firebending Masters
Wednesday: The Boiling Rock (Parts 1 and 2)
Thursday: The Southern Raiders
Friday: The Ember Island Players
Saturday: Sozin's Comet (Part 1-4)

http://www.nick.com/shows/tv-schedule.jhtml

[Snow]

It starts with the Western Air Temple and ends with Sozin's Comet. Schedule breaks down like this:

Monday: Western Air Temple
Tuesday: The Firebending Masters
Wednesday: The Boiling Rock (Parts 1 and 2)
Thursday: The Southern Raiders
Friday: The Ember Island Players
Saturday: Sozin's Comet (Part 1-4)

http://www.nick.com/shows/tv-schedule.jhtml

I work every Thursday through Saturday, son of a bitch...

[Kaenboshi]

You could always become sick. :shifty

[Taurus Versant]

Guess I'll be getting over the weekend, as I'm a day ahead of you guys.

[Jove]

On the darkersider i wonder how this theard will dissappear will it be here far longer than it should be.coughtengentoppacough

Then suddenly reappear when the movie comes out coughtengentoppacough.

I really do want them to expand on the avatarverse tho instead of playing spongebob from 1-5 daily.

I vow that this thread will reach 500 pages.


My thoughts on today's episodes:

The SDCC Book 3 Trailer

--- I feel obligated to mention this; it seems like an episode now, with it's lore. It was so unexpected; all we were hoping for, and expecting, was an airdate, after months of nothing. Not one thing. Complete silence from Nick, and from us as well. The fandom was practically dead. Not quiet, not slow, not mired in stasis... dead. This thing was the bomb that woke up Megalon. There are a lot of people that got into the show simply from this.

--- It seems like an episode because there so many moments from it that are memorable. It was jaw-dropping to see Roku do that four-element bend for the first time. To see the Maik-out. To analyze every frame of this thing for two months. And the song, which was an extended version of a leitmotif the Track Team had used a few times... stirring. I'd probably rate this ahead of a few episodes, really.

The Awakening

--- I'd like to say history will redeem this episode, and perhaps it might. But I doubt it, for two reasons. First, it was beloved instantly. The fandom simply craved the show to much. When AnimationInsider.net released a review of this episode a week before air, people excoriated the reviewer for his criticisms, although they were totally valid and erudite. Criticisms was nullified for this episode. It had been almost TEN FUCKING MONTHS. Second, the criticisms presented were, as I said, valid. They exist and always will.

--- The major criticism is the direction. Giancarlo Volpe is probably the best Avatar director, but I really wonder what the hell he was thinking with Act 3. When I first saw the episode, when it aired, I was underwhelmed. But each successive rewatch has softened my criticisms. The first two acts are fine. The show should have been an hour long, but in a half-hour show with a LOT of material to cover, it works well. BUT act three is a major problem. Ending act 2 with Ozai's face was great, but you have to come back to it right away. It's too powerful, and too important to the show. Why go back to Aang flying around, and then a long scene with Katara and Hakoda?

--- And that scene... completely atypical for Avatar. It's too long, too dialogue-heavy, and WAY too emotionally blunt. Most Avatar scenes are economical, in length and dialogue. That's a strength of the show: each line is bursting with significance. What we had here was Katara blubbering endlessly about her emotions in a straightforward manner, a sad prelude to The Beach.

--- And the deus ex machina... BOTH of them. Two! The Serpent and Yue... it doesn't bother me anymore, but it's still a bit of a flaw. And I still think Yue undermines Roku.

--- And the Maik-out... For those that don't know, right before The Awakening aired, there was an all-Avatar Nick Magazine that had several mini-comics about the time beween CoD and The Awakening. Mai and Zuko getting together was one. But if you hadn't read that, you must have been completely baffled by this.

--- What I do like is Ozai's reveal. We waited so long to see it, and it was jarring how sudden it was. And I like the concept of the reveal, carried out over the first 2 books when you think about it: we weren't allowed to see Ozai's face until Zuko did.

--- The Zuko/Azula bedroom scene is still as creepy and perverse as ever. I do have to say, Zuko is uncharacteristically perspicacious in this episode. Figuring out that Katara used the Spirit Oasis water to bring Aang back to life, getting Azula to reveal her motivations to him... well played, Zuko.

--- I also put everything together now, in context. It;s certainly not The Avatar State, which basically contains every theme for Book 2, but there is the beginning of the recurring theme in this episode: Aang's nervous and volatile obsession with the Fire Lord truly begins here.

The Headband

--- I'm truly ambivalent towards this one. I loved it when it aired, disliked it on rewatch, and now I love it again.

--- The one thing I have a serious problem with is, once again, the sequencing. The scene with Iroh and Zuko ends act 1, but when we return it's Sokka arguing with Aang about Aang's attendance of school. Now, Sokka is absolutely hilarious, but we need to come right back to Zuko and Iroh. That scene is too low-key to break up.

--- There's no other way to say this: Sokka owns Book 3. And not just Wang Fire, he's so funny throughout this whole episode. "I am a fan of secret rivers..."

--- Book 3 Azula is a hard nut to crack. She seems legitimately concerned for Zuko here, and she shows signs of this throughout Book 3.

--- The music in this episode is fantastic. The Flamio's are great but I love the be-bop that the Track team puts under the scene where Aang tries to fit into the Fire nation crowd with his antiquities. It's a nice, layered touch.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 18: Sokka’s Day


Episodes

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 3: The Painted Lady

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 4: Sokka’s Master

As we continue to traverse the Fire Nation, Sokka continues to steal the show.

Even when not the focus of the episode, he shines. When the Gaang, searching for food, come across a barge town devastated by a local Fire Nation steel mill, Katara’s determined altruism forces her to devote herself to helping them. When a mysterious spirit known as the Painted Lady arrives, the town begins to thrive a bit. However, Katara soon realizes that far more drastic measures need to be taken to help the townsfolk. But Sokka’s reasoned argument for leaving the town alone, and his eventual assistance, steal the show.

And when Sokka is, finally, the focus of an episode, it’s tremendous. Depressed over his inability to help the Gaang due to his inability to bend, Sokka seeks the famous swordsman Piandao to teach him. It’s Sokka’s singularity that wins the great master over, and earns his respect.

But Sokka’s not the only one training. Iroh, lambasted daily by the guards to his cell and viewed as a disgrace, has been feverishly training in secret, with astounding results.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[blackssk]

AIbrGKXskeI

[JB the Jedi]

It starts with the Western Air Temple and ends with Sozin's Comet. Schedule breaks down like this:

Monday: Western Air Temple
Tuesday: The Firebending Masters
Wednesday: The Boiling Rock (Parts 1 and 2)
Thursday: The Southern Raiders
Friday: The Ember Island Players
Saturday: Sozin's Comet (Part 1-4)

http://www.nick.com/shows/tv-schedule.jhtml

You don't even know how happy I am right now.

It's Back !

[Mider T]

Rewatch: Day 18 Thoughts



The Painted Lady

The Gaang stops in a fire nation town for food and supplies do to the local waters being polluted and hear tale of a mysterious and magical woman called the Painted Lady who brings food to the village. Unfortunately the village is poor, and when Appa gets sick there is no medicine to cure him due to the nearby factory and it's greedy nature. That night, the Painted Lady comes with gifts aplenty including medicine which leads the villagers to hold her in even more high regard when the Gaang visits again the next day. Sokka (on his book 3 comedy roll) states bluntly that it will all be for nothing while the factory exists (he wanted to stick to the original plan anyhow). That night Aang finds out that it is actually Katara who is the painted lady, and this time helps her in destroying the factory which stops polluting the nearby water source. They, of course, get found out by Sokka and Toph who don't want to interfere anymore but join them when Katara assists. Battling the workers of the factory, the townspeople find out that Katara is the Painted Lady but not before they win. Katara focused the villagers attention to cleaning up the lake to which the Gaang helps with before setting off. I found it interesting that this show had the nerve to make fun of Multiple Personality Disorder, it was a rare black humor moment. Akin to Family Guy, I hope they don't pull this off again, it made me feel a bit uncomfortable. Also it was nice to see that not all Fire Nation people are cruel, and that they can battle themselves. 16.5/20


Sokka’s Master

Sokka underestimates himself in comparison with the group after a short meteor shower accident opens his eyes. He goes to search for a weapon to find nothing really suit him until he sees a sword and learns it was forged by a Fire Nation swordmaster named Piando who lives nearby. Elsewhere, Iroh pretends to be crazy in his cell, fooling a prisonguard while he trains like a maniac by his lonesome. Back with the Gaang, Sokka visits Piando's residence to be turned away until he humbly bows down and admits his uncertainty of his worth, to which Piando gladly takes him under his wing. Back to Iroh, he once again fools to the guard but returns to doing push ups and sit ups like a beast in the guard's absence. Another scene change to the Sokkaless, comedy impared Gaang shows their boredom when they try to substitute his natural humor while he's not that. Sokka's training is going over excellently and when told to make a sword, he fetches the meteorite as material while being greeted very warmly by the ectastic Gaang (Toph blushes when trying to act nonchalant, Tokka FTW!). He asks them to help get the meteorite to Piando's place where he briefly introduces them. He spends all night on his sword and when finished it turns out to be a unique and beautiful all-black sword. It is then that Sokka admits his Water Tribe heritage to which his master attacks him. Sokka sucessfully defends himself for awhile before his master gains the upper hand though reveals he knew the truth all along; about Sokka and Aang. He wisely states that anyone who wishes can learn the art of the Sword, before saying he will one day make a a great swordsman. While leaving, the butler runs after Sokka and hands him the White Lotus Pai Sho tile (Iroh fought for one himself) and he notices the symbols are on Piando's house. Sokka gives a piece of the left over meteorite to Toph (TTTTTTTOOOOOKKKKKKAAAA) and she can bend it, to which the Gaang wonders if Space Earth is possible. Sokka's win was so epic in this episode, we find out how important he really is. Arguably after Aang, he is the most vital part of the group, and my favorite character. 19/20


Final Conclusion: Even though they suck at blending in with the Fire Nation, the Gaang seems to escape scott free and with relative ease. It leads me to wonder, how long can they continue with this charade? Also what importance will the White Lotus tile be in the near future, is Sokka now apart of the Order of the White Lotus?

[Kaenboshi]

I've done like nothing for the rewatch so far, but I thought would be good to share: Someone's awesome fanart relating to the Painted Lady. (http://tobuishi.deviantart.com/art/A-TLA-Not-Very-Attractive-89317667)

[Cero]

This show is the best show ever

[Mrs.Lovett]

I concur. Any zutarians? =D

[Jove]

I've done like nothing for the rewatch so far, but I thought would be good to share: Someone's awesome fanart relating to the Painted Lady. (http://tobuishi.deviantart.com/art/A-TLA-Not-Very-Attractive-89317667)

That's awesome. I really hope that there's a fanart explosion after the show is over. Hopefully there'll be some strips akin to Matte's Alternate History.


My thoughts on today's episodes:

The Painted Lady

--- I really disliked this episode when it aired, loved it when I rewatched it, and now I hate it again. Did we really need anentire episode of Katara's strident charity? That character trait has been well-established; that it's now a Fire Nation village that she's saving isn't a solid premise. At least with Avatar Day and Great Divide, it was frivolous situations that were out of the Gaang's control. This one was self-inflicted and dangerous.

--- And there's the other major problem here. There a thing in writing, especially in sketch, called "internal logic." it's what dictates the scene, it's rules, conceit, etc. Unless it's intentional, you try to maintain a believable and worthy internal logic to your scene, without undermining it. Well, that was over quickly here, as Sokka astutely and rationally dismisses Katara's short-sighted and stubborn desire to help the town. It's really hard not to side with Sokka here, especially since throughout the whole show, Katara's diversions always put the Gaang's mission in jeopardy.

--- I do have to say, though, the confrontation between the Fire Nation soldiers and Katara-as-Painted-Lady was really well-done. Actually, the whole episode was fine; it was structured well, animated very well, directed well... besides that one major logic flaw which undermines the entire episode, it's a really excellent episode. That's not meant to be ironic.

--- Poor Toph. Book 3 has relegated her to just a typical quipping little girl character. Why couldn't she have been given an episode, instead of retreading Katara's personality? Actually, she's doesn't really do anything for most of Book 3.

--- The ending is basically a reinterpretation of Zuko Alone, except that Katara, of course, is forgiven while Zuko is lambasted and exiled.

Sokka's Master

--- My favorite (aired) episode of Book 3. After my disappointment with The Awakening and my dismay over The Painted Lady, this episode alleviated all my fears that Book 3 might not live up to the wait. And it;s about time Sokka got his own episode. His character has sharpened more than any other.

--- Favorite little moment: the Charlie Brown Christmas reference after the firefighting, with Sokka in the snowbank and Momo sliding around the ice.

--- Piandao is Sifu Kisu, a fact that, if you are aware of it, makes this episode about 1000x better. It's also really weird to see one of the kids next to an adult. It usually doesn't happen for very long, so to see Sokka, the largest of the group, so small next to Piandao is a bit distracting, but a nice touch.

--- This is a great example of the "previously on Avatar..." opens working favorably. Seeing the references to the White Lotus Society brought me out of my chair to begin the episode when it aired, and just that brief, slight nod at the end was awesome.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 19: Revelations


Episodes

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 5: The Beach

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 6: The Avatar and the Fire Lord

Now settled into the Fire Nation, in disguise, we take an unorthodox turn and focus on Azula’s gang and Zuko, who has not settled back into the Fire Nation as smoothly as he had hoped. Taking a forced vacation to Ember Island, a beach locale for the Fire Nation’s most opulent families, the group fits in with normal Fire Nation kids, to varying degrees of success. Eventually, they all converge back onto the beach, where they express their emotions in an extremely straightforward manner, with Zuko finally revealing that he’s unhappy with his return.

Meanwhile, Combustion Man finally reveals himself to the Gaang, who are absolutely stunned by this sneak attack.

Afterwards, Zuko and Aang are each told the story of their predecessors, Fire Lord Sozin and Avatar Roku. In the parallel stories, we learn how a deep and loving friendship degraded into antipathy, and, eventually, betrayal. Confused by this, Zuko visits Iroh one last time, and is treated to a shocking revelation, one that will finally begin the path to his true destiny.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[masterriku]

I can't wait for the weekend to be over with cause for me next week is gonna be......

AWESOME for 2 reason who wants to guess them:nod

[Gunners]

How much longer?

[Mider T]

Come on man, at least look back a page or two before asking.

[masterriku]

How much longer?

I dunno about nine months give or take 8 months and 27 days

[Mider T]

More quick reviews today, gotta go soon

Rewatch: Day 19 Thoughts


The Beach

Another "time out" episode which was decent I suppose. It focused solely on Azula, Zuko, Ty Lee, and Mai on an island resort. Mai and Zuko bask in each other's unhappiness, Azula shows her ineptitude around guys, and Ty Lee is as popular as ever (Her name is Ty Lee, and she blocks chi! All the boys want to sneak a peek!:awesome) Nonetheless they all get invited to some "Chad-like" guy's party where they fail, miserably. They get kicked out to their own campfire where true feelings come to the surface (Ty Lee's attention seeking, Mai's conformity issues, Azula's mommy complex, and Zuko's inner turmoil). This was the highlight of the episode as they confront these problems and burn down "Chad-like" Chang's house.:/ 13.5/20

The Avatar and the Fire Lord

You think you know Avatar? No. Not until you see the episode made purely of win that focuses on the early days of Avatar Roku, who was best friends with Fire Lord Sozin. We follow Roku's learning of his destiny on his 16th birthday (also then-Prince Sozin's 16th birthday) to his training at different places around the world. Roku meets Monk Gyatso and has similiar hardships learning his opposite element just as Aang did (His is water since he was a fire bender), eventually becoming a master of all 4. He returns, marries his childhood sweethart and life is bliss until his best friend now-Fire Lord Sozin presents his ambitions of taking over the world. Roku objects and as time passes by, grows more distant from the cruel becoming Sozin, until he sees his former best friend has enacted his plans already. He goes to the palace to confront him about it and subdues him in the battle for the ages, to which afterwards he doesn't speak to him for 2 and half decades. In their old age, a volcano erupts on Roku's island in the dead of the night, it catches him off guard and he tries to stop the lava flow to save his family and his home. Sozin comes to his aid but eventually decides otherwise, seeing as his plans for conquer will be made much easier with Roku gone. Roku dies due to being incapacitated by the Sulfuric gases and the sheer lava flow over him and his dragon. Afterwards Sozin set off for the Air temples to kill the next avatar in line (Aang) but ironically failed seeing as he slaughtered all the ones except the one he was after. At the end of his days Sozin realizes his mistake and dies at age 102. In the present, Iroh finally talks to Zuko in his jail cell saying that Ursa (Zuko's mother) was Avatar Roku's granddaughter while Fire Lord Sozin was Fire Lord Ozai's granddfather, which explains Zuko's inner conflict between good and evil. He must make a decision. First episode I'm giving a perfect rating that's not a finale. Masterpiece. 20/20


Final Conclusion: Dare I say "The Avatar and the Firelord" made up for any doubts about season 3, it's just mind blowing and fantastic. The way the past is told (Roku's side through Aang's eyes, Sozin's through Zuko's) parallel to one another was brilliant. It alluded to other points that we encountered earlier in the series (Bitter Work, Friendships transcend lifetimes, Roku's fault in the war starting, etc.) It cleared up most of the questions that we had about the past and introduced Sozin's face, which completes the face showing of the evil firelords. It brought up the shocking fact about Zuko's heritage, it solved mysteries, and most of all it entertained. Mind blowingly.

[Jove]

Woah, Mider. I did not see that coming. That might actually influence how I watch it... a 20/20. Damn.

Anyway... YES!!!!!! The Azula/Zuko commercial is finally online!

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Azula called Aang by his name! And, of course, Zuko's still calling him "The Avatar." But I guess these commercials treat things as if we haven't seen anything since Day of Black Sun, so it's not that peculiar.

[Mider T]

That's my favorite episode actually.

P.S. I was watching Boiling Rock pt. 1 today when I noticed Zuko's letter

"Aang(:wtf) practice you firebending :blahblah....


-Zuko"



That commercial is epic though, how does she know Aang's name?

[Jove]

That's my favorite episode actually.

P.S. I was watching Boiling Rock pt. 1 today when I noticed Zuko's letter

"Aang(:wtf) practice you firebending :blahblah....


-Zuko"



That commercial is epic though, how does she know Aang's name?

Backstory. Zuko calls him "Aang" in every single conversation he has that's not part of the show.

[Mider T]

:lmao Hopefully we'll hear it on Thursday

[\zol]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZc-ob1vZQ4
Higher quality TV commercial for Zuko/Azula

Damn, ya'll see how Azula is with her all out and crazy.. Lol I can't wait for next week(Thurs- Sat cuz I've seen the rest :p)

[boh]

cant wait for next week! might try to sleep the weekend away

[Taurus Versant]

Hair down Azula terrifies me deep down into my soul.

Dare I say, this WILL be epic.

[Jove]

My thought's on Today's Yesterday's episodes:

The Beach

--- Somehow, a fanfic was mixed in with the real scripts and was accidentally animated.


The Avatar and the Firelord

--- Essentially, this begins the last big plot turn, as Zuko now finally starts his true turn. I couldn't enjoy this episode as much when it aired, because I did know that there was a gigantic reveal at the end involving Zuko, so I was just salivating for the ending. I also wasn't sure if the episode was conceived that well, with such straightforward parallelism.

--- But now I'm very sure that this is one of the best episodes of the series. Yes, it's the zenith of the parallelism between Aang and Zuko, and there's plenty more. Obviously, there's Sozin and Roku mirroring each other, and there's brief hints that Roku's trainers were like Aang's masters, but the one huge parallel is Zuko and Roku. Both had to leave the Fire Nation for extended periods, and returned as very different people, and to a much different context. And, in the end, both had to challenge the Fire Lord.

--- It was really clear before this episode, but Roku's awesomeness is off the charts.

--- A long time ago in the Rewatch, I mentioned that Avatar does not waste frames; the plot is introduced very early. This might be the quickest one yet. Actually, it's probably impossible to best; Roku appears to Aaang in the very first shot. That suggest to me that they had to edit a lot of material to make this 24 minutes. This had to be the show everyone couldn't wait to work on.

--- About the Avatar, I'm interested in their true spirit form. It appears that it is set for each one. For Kyoshi, it's they way she looked in her 20's/30's. For Roku, it's the way he looked before his death. And, apparently for Aang, it;s his 12-year-old-monk form. I wonder if that could change or if Aang will always be 12 in spirit form. I also wish we could have seen interaction between Roku and Kyoshi.

--- I like Aang better with hair, by the way.

--- The big timeline problem: I've had one timeline issue with Avatar, and I wonder if it's just me. Here it is:

Avatar Kyoshi was born 400 years before the start of the show. Aang was born 112 years before the start of the show. That leaves 288 years in between. Kyoshi lived to be 230, so Roku must have lived 58 years.

Sozin lived 102 years. He died 20 years after he began the war, which was 12 years after Aang was born. So he must have been 70 years old on the volcano with Roku. Since Roku died, he was 58 years old when Sozin betrayed him. But Sozin was said to have been born on the same day as Roku. Even if it was the same day but in different years, there's no way Sozin was 12 years older than Roku. Am I missing something? The 12 years discrepancy cannot be a mistake. Did they forget to add Aang's age to the numbers?

[Ziko]

Oh god, here I am trying to wait for the new episodes..and then that commercial comes up.. I'm not sure if I can make it!

Anyway, the last episode I watched was Boiling Rock part 2, so new episodes for me won't start until Wednesday?

[Mider T]

:lmao Jove's thoughts on The Beach

No i think Kyoshi's is what messed it up the most. I don't think Mike and Bryan were that into the script at the time of her age guessing.

[Taurus Versant]

Jove ain't a Beach fan.

I'll admit, the only part of it that I remember as important is the development of the four we got. Zuko's anger, Ty Lee's identity crisis, Mai's restraint, and Azula's on issues, which will seriously come to play in the finale.

I will never forget that line from her.

"My own mother thought I was a monster. She was right of course, but it still hurt."

That's an important line.

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 20: Katara’s Day


Episodes

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 7: The Runaway

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 8: The Puppetmaster

The focus shifts back onto Katara, as we reacquaint ourselves once again with some of her natural traits, but also learn about the possibility of a few more.

At another stop in a Fire Nation village, the Gaang find themselves at odds as Toph develops a thirst for illegal gambling. Unbeatable, her and Sokka ravish the underground of the village, and in the process Toph becomes an especially villified, wanted criminal. Katara’s tendency for overbearing maternal concern emerges again, but eventually she decides to help Toph on one last score. However, the devious plan is upended when Combustion Man arrives.

Later, the Gaang meet an Hana, who appears to be nothing more than a genial old woman. She offers them shelter, and reveals herself to be a former member of the Souther Water Tribe, to Katara’s delight. But the town where Hama lives is in crisis; people keep disappearing on the full moon. As the mystery begins to be uncovered, Hama’s dark past and disturbing variations of waterbending are revealed, in the process showing the potential for malevolence in Katara as well.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

Besides being an Epic Galactic Homeric Biblical Grandiose Superextraordinary event, the Rewatch is also casual. Watch the day's episodes at any time of the day, and discuss them in any manner that you'd like, until the nearly morning of the next day.

[Jove]

Jove ain't a Beach fan.

I'll admit, the only part of it that I remember as important is the development of the four we got. Zuko's anger, Ty Lee's identity crisis, Mai's restraint, and Azula's on issues, which will seriously come to play in the finale.

I will never forget that line from her.

"My own mother thought I was a monster. She was right of course, but it still hurt."

That's an important line.

Oh, of course. You're absolutely right. It'll all come into play, but I I think as an episode The Beach was a failed experiment. Focusing on the Fire Nations kids was fine, but it was a shaky episode until Zuko left the Party. Then, there was the scene with him in his family's old beach house, followed by the Combustion Man attack on the Gaang.

At that point, I thought, "My God, is this episode about to get up off the mat and score a knockout?!"

Then, what followed was the worst scene in Avatar. Just the four of them telling us their emotional problems in a straightforward, unambiguous manner. That's not how Avatar does such things. It's always been in relation to a set of circumstances, a scene, an object, etc. At the very least, with legitimate dialogue.

[masterriku]

yes I was waiting for today so I could say what happen to hawky:zaru

[Taurus Versant]

Man, with the praise the Blue Spirit got, I can only see Hawkey starting a religion.

[Mider T]

The 20th day huh....let's do this

Rewatch: Day 20 Thoughts



The Runaway

In another small fire nation town, Toph gambles and Katara rambles. The smallest member of the Gaang gets a thrill out of playing the masses for her blindness and with Sokka in tow, she unleashes her skills in the village. She gets rich quick off of this scheme but Katara nags her to death about how she shouldn't be doing this and a catfight ensues. Sokka mans up and talks to Toph about the pros of Katara's motherly nature and they make up. Katara agrees to help Toph in one last scam which fails and ends up with them both in prison. Zuko's assassin is there to murder them, trapping them in a wooden room. Aang and Sokka arrive to battle him before Katara's sweats her way out of the cell, not having anything else to bend. The man blows things up with his mind until the escapees manage to stop him by hitting him in his third forehead eye with a rock. He tries again and blows up the air around him when Sokka names him Combustion man (ba dum tsch). Later Toph and Katara send her parents a "I'm good letter" with Sokka's bird Hawky (The most win character of this episode) without his permission. Enjoyable. 18/20



The Puppetmaster

Creepy old lady from Katara and Sokka's village offers to teach Katara some of her tricks. Naturally Sokka's xenophobia kicks in and he (rightfully) grows suspicious, but Katara won't have any of it. Hama (the lady) says the Fire Nation took her away from her village and Katara is similar to her. Sokka and Toph investigate which later leads to fight with Hama that shows she can bend water in all living things, including blood to control people. It's how she escaped the Fire Nation prison and how she's been taking villagers for all of these years. Katara wins the fight but not without bloodbending first to which Hama claims as a sucess and ends the episode crying. Kinda creepy end. 17/20


Final Conclusion: So Toph turned the meteorite Sokka gave her into a bracelet huh? Sounds like Tokka shipping to me, especially since in the both of the episodes she seemed to treat it as her most prized possession. Gran Gran a.k.a. Kanna was good friends with Hama (they trapped that Fire Nation ship in the first episode there almost half a century ago), so apparantly everyone in the Water Tribe name's end with a vowel. Just an observation:quite Personally, I don't understand what's wrong with bloodbending, controlling someone out of their will doesn't seem as bad as killing people to me; something Katara is willing to do to the Fire Nation soldiers. Wonder if Aang can do it, but that'll dilute the emotional impact if he could so better leave it to speculation. Also Hawky = Awesome, it had to be said.

[Taurus Versant]

Anyone got a link to that trailer of the end of Book 3 again? I wanna see that scene where we think Katara is bloodbending.

[Jove]

Anyone got a link to that trailer of the end of Book 3 again? I wanna see that scene where we think Katara is bloodbending.

You can download it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FPLPW25S

Or watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhbVBezdg

[Taurus Versant]

Cheers.

Man, that Sokka bit at the end totally killed me. Laughing so hard.

The biggest I got out of that is just how out of control Azula's becoming. Jeong-Jeong's words of how fire can rage out of control comes back to me, Azula's embodying her element.

[Jove]

Cheers.

Man, that Sokka bit at the end totally killed me. Laughing so hard.

The biggest I got out of that is just how out of control Azula's becoming. Jeong-Jeong's words of how fire can rage out of control comes back to me, Azula's embodying her element.

You know, I'm about ready to commit to Sokka as my favorite character now.

That's a good call. Azula's been the antithesis of Zhao her entire tenure on the show. Methodical, measured, and precise. Never allowing herself to be overcome by base impulses (remember, The Beach NEVER HAPPENED!:mad), so her losing it at the end is going to be interesting.

There's really no way the Finale isn't the best four episodes in the show. Avatar never fails to rise to the importance of the airing: Siege of the North, The Avatar State, Secret of the Fire Nation, The Guru-Crossroads of Destiny, The Day of Black Sun... all premieres or finales of some sort, all overwhelming amounts of victory.

[Mider T]

In the preview, batshit Azula looks HOT, take that anyway you want:LOS

[Taurus Versant]

I wonder whether it's her Katara would be bloodbending. Showing just how much Azula has lost control, in that she doesn't even have dominance over her body. Of course, that would just drive her further towards insanity.

I really think the flaws in her mentality are going to burst in the finale.

[masterriku]

LOL I see why Gaang don't like ember island players.

[Jove]

My thoughts on today's episodes:

The Runaway

--- Well, Taurus brought it up, so I might as well start with this: If Hawky had stayed around, Sokka eventually would have become the Avatar. That's the influence of Hawky, and he BETTER be back.

--- This was an episode that I was unsure of, even after rewatching it when the DVD came out. It did seem like an unnecessary retread of The Chase. But on this sitting, I love it. I feel like this episode is a really cool dichotomy of inessential and essential, but it doesn't straddle the line. It's totally inessential until you're blindsided by Combustion Man's appearance. It;s a pretty clever trick for a show that's had to deal with the "filler" talk, even though it's a stand-alone work.

--- Katara really comes across well here, much better than The Painted Lady, I believe. You really empathize with her, and the emotions are much more diverse than just stubbornness.

--- I'm not sure about Toph, though. It's such a goofy sequence with her hustling, but it really could have put the Gaang in a desperate situation. But I think it's different than Katara's actions in Painted Lady. Katara destroyed a steel mill. Toph's just gambling.

--- On that subject: Toph's been really overlooked all season, and it's been unfortunate. You could easily argue that she's the most popular character on the show, and this is the only episode of Book 3 that gives her any focus at all. She hasn't even been given a slight b-plot. I don't get it, they should have been able to come up with something.

--- Same thing with Combustion Man. This is supposed to be the new Zhao, this Book's Azula, this Book's persistent antagonist. But he wasn't used enough to be perceived as a legitimate threat to Team Avatar. he was never that dark threat always haunting them. And with his crazy ability, he could have been amazing. But the ability could also have been an anchor...

--- The music during the big gambling montage is phenomenal. It's like an homage to tin pan alley, with Old West themes intermingled in it. Just classic Track Team. At this point, the Avatar musical style is so well-formed that Jeremy Zuckerman can easily interpret pop styles into it.

--- Sokka owns this episode, and the humor throughout is Book 2 level. I love episodes where Aang is secondary, because it usually involves him and Sokka goofing around together. I can't get enough of it; it gave us the immortal "Oh no! It's Spark Sparky Boom Man!"

--- For a second, the episode turned into The Beach (whatever that is :mad) when Katara confronts Toph, but then BOOM! Toph shuts it down. I love Toph. And that wanted poster of her with the Kisame teeth... it still kills me.

The Puppetmaster

--- Might as well get this out of the way as well: I have serious issues with bringing Bloodbending into the show. Obviously, it's a perfect concept for artistically presenting the evil potential of bending, but still... the show had always presented bending as a very simple practice: element's there, element's bended. Now we're going to bring into play every distinct property of the elements?

--- I was amused by some of the wacky scenarios and fanfics that came out of this, though. You can only bloodbend during a full moon. People were acting like Katara was just going to go up to Azula and be all "Bludbindin, pawnage!!!"

--- This might be worth a Mider 20 in my book. It's not one of my favorites, but this kind of fiction is remarkably difficult to pull off. They not only established hama as a genial old woman, but they successfully, and astutely, pulled off the turn, and pulled it off incrementally. They slowly showed her increasingly get more dangerous with her bending. The scene where she kills all the flowers is just creepy enough. Really masterful stuff.

[Koi]

Just a question, but does anyone know if there's anyone in the fandom who plans on recording and then uploading the new, unleaked episodes next week? Cause I gotta work Thursday night. D: D: D: I'm so not happy about it. We have DV-R recording but I don't always trust it.

[Superstarseven]

On the subject of Combustion man, the Book 3 poster that was handed out at the 2007 SDCC featuring him, Zuko and Aang ultimately made him seem more important than he turned out to be. Don't get me wrong I liked him but I Loved his power. The instant generating of Lightning that Ozai can accomplish and Combustion Man's mini explosions are definitely the most lethal displays of power we've seen in the show.
The decision to not add music during the scuffle with him the Gang during The Beach was genius I thought. Made it that much more dramatic and really emphasized how dangerous this guy was.

[Ziko]

Um..where in that trailer do you think you see Katara blood bending?

[Jove]

Avatar: the Last Airbender Rewatch

Day 21: The Day of Black Sun


Episodes

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 9: Nightmares and Daydreams

Book 3: Fire, Chapter 10: The Day of Black Sun, Part 1: The Invasion

Book 3: Fire 3, Chapter 10 or 11: The Day of Black Sun, Part 2: The Eclipse

Now on the cusp of the Invasion, Aang realizes the weight of the situation: he will have to face the Fire Lord, and it will be his most difficult challenge to date. With that revelation, he begins to feel the pressure of the world’s fate, and begins to panic. Unable to sleep, he begins to lose his sanity, having a sequence of astounding and bizarre nightmares. But with the help of his friends, he finally accepts his role.

Sokka, however, loses his cool on the day of the Invasion, the Invasion that he planned. Having failed to inspire the Invasion force, he has to watch as his dad takes over. As the team of allies, taken from throughout the entire series, make their way into the Fire Nation using a bevy of inventions devised by Sokka and made by The Mechanist, Aang finally confronts Katara, knowing he may never see her again.

The Invasion itself goes smoothly, and Sokka, in his father's injured absence, takes command and leads the troops toward the palace. But Aang, having reached the Fire Lord’s chambers, makes a shocking disovery: he’s not there. Continuing with the Invasion, Toph, and Sokka accompany Aang through a secret location to find Ozai, but instead find Azula waiting for them.

But the Gaang are not the only ones looking to confront Ozai. Having finally been treated as the Crown Prince at a war meeting, being at the right hand of the Fire Lord, Zuko finally realizes that he made a terrible mistake. As the Eclipse begins, he confronts his father with his intentions to join the Avatar. Ozai stalls until the end of the Eclipse and unleashes an astounding display of lightning bending, but Zuko has an old trick of his own and escapes. When he goes to free his uncle, he makes the same discovery as Aang: there’s nobody home.

The Invasion having failed, the Gaang take a group of the youngest away, leaving the adults behind as captives. As they start their journey to the Western Air Temple to prepare for the final showdown with the Fire Nation, they don’t notice that Zuko is back on their trail after several months, but for a different reason this time.

Anyone looking for a place to watch the episodes can find them here:

http://theavatarportal.org/Watch-Episodes.php

This concludes the Rewatch. Finale Week now begins. Thanks for reading.

[Jove]

Um..where in that trailer do you think you see Katara blood bending?

It was be this frame:

http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/091.jpg

Which you can compare to this frame from The Puppetmaster:

http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/308/216.jpg


On the subject of Combustion man, the Book 3 poster that was handed out at the 2007 SDCC featuring him, Zuko and Aang ultimately made him seem more important than he turned out to be. Don't get me wrong I liked him but I Loved his power. The instant generating of Lightning that Ozai can accomplish and Combustion Man's mini explosions are definitely the most lethal displays of power we've seen in the show.
The decision to not add music during the scuffle with him the Gang during The Beach was genius I thought. Made it that much more dramatic and really emphasized how dangerous this guy was.

I liked his power, too. It made sense; if the arrows on Aang represent the flow of chi through the body, then bending from the center of the forehead should be possible. They really misused him; he should have been in at least two more episodes, or not used at all. That's exactly right about that poster, it misled everyone. It's definitely influencing my opinion on how they presented him.

[Mider T]

Jove you put part 2 twice, but I'm glad it's wrapped up on Day 21, my favorite number. Will do my review later.

[Narcissus]

In the trailer, is that Azula falling?

[Jove]

In the trailer, is that Azula falling?

If you look at the hair, it appears so:

http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/058.jpg

[Superstarseven]

Yes, A little confrontation before the big match.
Not even sure where in the story this happens though but of course Katara catching him means there's obviously gonna be lovin' in Zuko's room later that night.

[Mider T]

Rewatch: Day 21, the Final Day






Nightmares and Daydreams

Due to the mounting pressure of the upcoming invasion, Aang snaps. The Gaang tries multiple techniques to get him under control but he just grows all the more loopy. He starts to trip out in visions with him and Katara (Oh you Kataang shippers:hehee), Momo and Appa (best scene in season 3 IMO), and the Fire Lord. The Gaang realizes his insomnia is deteriorating his psych and try to help him, suceeding after many failures. He's ready to face Ozai after finally getting a good night's rest. Comedy galore. 19/20



The Day of Black Sun

Today's the day, crunch time, all or nothing. The Gaang prepares for the battle of their lives here which decides the fate of the war and the world. Gathering up friends and allies, Sokka is deemed leader but cracks under pressure so Hakoda leads in his stead. The Mechanist provides transportation with the help of the Swamp Waterbenders and Katara. Toph gets seasick (so she does have a weakness :awesome) When the D-day like arrival actually happens on the shores, it appears to be a huge success, with out heroes outstrategizing the blunt and brunt Fire Nation. Toph is with a team of Earthbenders, Sokka gets over his jitters and leads the invasion, and Katara takes aerial attacks while Aang is told to find the Fire Lord while he still can. Hakoda is injured so Katara cannot go with him, so Aang kisses her right then and there to which her reaction is vague. Sokka and Toph follow him through the traps until they reach the chamber only to discover Azula in her father's stead. They try and get through her first but she manages to dodge them acrobatically without using firebending until Sokka sees through her plan and orders them to ignore her and focus on the real threat. She taunts him with Suki's fate causing him to lose control. Elsewhere, Zuko confronts his father not as the Crown Prince but new traitor to the Fire Nation finally realizing he was wrong. Ozai stalls his son with outrage and stories of his mother until the Black Sun ends and in an incredible (really awesome) feat bends white lightning towards Zuko. Equally amazing, Zuko is able to catch it and fire it right back at him (well, in front of him) and escape because killing him is the Avatar's job, his new ally. Back with the Gaang, Azula manages to escape due to her returned firebending and the invasion is a failure. They manage to retreat with just a handful of people while Aang apologizing that the others have to stay as prisoners, they leave towards the Western Air Temple with Zuko on their tail. Wow. 20/20

Final Conclusion: If this was a season (not series) finale it would suffice, as my review only covered half of the action. I hope Zuko can stay on the good side permantently and wonder what's going to happen to everyone else. Sokka is starting to look like a badass deity in my eyes. Well I hope you enjoyed the reviews, stay tuned all week for new Avatar, only on Nick.

[Taurus Versant]

Looking at Day of the Black Sun, we can just feel how epic Sozin's Comet will be. Looking forward to it like you won't believe.

[ViolentlyHappy]

What time does avatar come on again? I want to know when to tune in, but I forgot what time it was.

[Mider T]

2000 hours or 8 p.m. for civilians

[Jove]

Sigh... my thoughts on today's episodes:

Nightmares and Daydreams

--- Another episode that caused a bit of commotion. Some people had serious reservations about an episode on the brink of the Invasion being so goofy. I disagree. I mean, come on; Aang's big epiphanic moment was "No, Fire Lord Ozai, you're not wearing pants." :laugh

--- Since there's not much to say about this episode, I might as well say something about Aang. Avatar succeeds because they have a likable main character. And, more importantly, they have a main character that everyone likes. No hardcore Avatar fan that I've seen hates Aang. But you look at Naruto, and it seems like half the fandom hates the title character.

Now, a lot of that is UG wackos that have sacrificed their dignity and appreciation of all things good and decent in order to worship a sullen, asexual hax-deviant. But in Avatar, everyone likes Aang, because he's never given us a reason to hate him. He works through his problems, and he's a cool little monk.

--- And one final parallel before the Invasion: Aang and Zuko both spend the entire episode obsessing over Ozai, and both realize in the end that it wasn't worth it.


The Day of Black Sun, Part 1: the Invasion

--- This is a really interesting set-up episode: it feels like a culminating show. There's so much action, tension, suspense... it definitely feels like the denouement, and not the beginning of something. The last 8-9 minutes of the show, beginning when they go back into the subs after emerging for air, that has to be the most exciting sequence in Avatar. And this is the moment we had been waiting over a year for; to deliver is remarkable.

--- I love the machines the use, the flipper submarines and the caterpillar tanks. Some people wondered how such machines could have been produced in such a short time, but time doesn't seem to hinder the Fire Nation, does it? They built The Drill in only a couple months. I like that the other Nations matched the Fire Nation in industry, for once.

--- One question: when we get the montage of all the old friends returning, why does Toph think the Hippo and Boulder are there for a rematch? Yes Toph, they've stowed away on the ship of a secret invasion force, all for the slight chance that they could avenge themselves whilst surrounded by a countless number of your allies. On the other hand, seeing Toph in the Earth Kingdom uniform, with the helmet and everything, is one of my favorite shots in the series.

--- Haru's mustache... I don't throw the word catastrophe around a lot, but the decision to give Haru a mustache was a literal catastrophe.

--- Subtle moment: the outrageously cool and awesome Hakoda, when delivering the speech for Sokka, gets a variation of the Sokka's Theme leitmotif as he speaks.

The Day of Black Sun, Part 2: the Eclipse

--- There no other way around it: Fire Lord Ozai is just achingly awesome. Zuko's lambasting him and his country here, and he's laughing right at him. If Aang wasn't so great, I'd hate to see him lose. He's like Azula x 1000.

--- And that is my favorite sequence in the show, the juxtaposition of Azula holding Aang, Sokka, and Katara, while Ozai stalls Zuko. Both are waiting for the Eclipse to end, and the scene proves one thing: Azula is great, but she was just the appetizer for Ozai. His ploy of using Ursa to keep Zuko around was fantastic. And then there's that insane lightning he creates. It's too bad we never got to see more of the depths of his cruelty.

--- While the first part of DoBS seems like a closer, this one actually seems more like a set-up. There's so much exposition and bridging, but that's the beauty of Avatar: always twisting convention.

--- The music in the episode is fantastic, and, as always, there are subtle touches. Right before Azula calls upon her Dai Li agents, you can faintly here the Dai Li music playing. Likewise, when Zuko finds Iroh's cell, you can hear the Tsungi Horn song playing in the background.

--- And, finally, this episode shows the one true magnificent feature that we see throughout Avatar: that the initial plans often fail. We had waited well over a year for this plan to come to fruition. In the Avatar world, there was about a four month gap between The Library and these episodes. Most shows would never consider the plan failing, but Avatar is the opposite. The Gaang has to struggle for their victories, and often have to eat multiple failures to achieve them. And that's where we truly learn about these characters, this world, and this show. And it makes for a much more satisfying conclusion.

Well, it's been a really fun three weeks. Thanks for reading.

[Taurus Versant]

And now the moment of truth approaches. I think a lot of us are going to be glued to this thread this coming week.

[Ziko]

Oh, yeah. So who is ready? I sure am!

This thread is going to get like 100 more pages this week xD

[Jove]

Oh, yeah. So who is ready? I sure am!

This thread is going to get like 100 more pages this week xD

WE'RE PUSHING THIS TO 500!!!! :FISTPUMP

I'm so excited right now. My stomach is already knotted, and there's 12.5 hours to go, and it's an episode I've already seen twice. But this time, I'll be watching it in HD!

[Mider T]

Has anyone not watched The Western Air Temple yet?

[Jove]

Has anyone not watched The Western Air Temple yet?

I know I've a lot of kids elsewhere say they didn't want to "spoil" themselves by watching the DVD, which makes no sense. It's an OFFICIAL release; that's just as valid as a legit airdate.

[St. Jimmy]

I Cant Fucking Wait Till Thursday

Southern Raiders, VH1 Rock Honors The Who, And TNA Impact Aftermath Of Victory Road In One Night :LOS

[Mider T]

But how will you watch them all at primetime hour?:hehee

[St. Jimmy]

Well Avatar Is On At 8, But Rock Honors And Impact Are Both On At 9 So Ill Flip

[Sylar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhD_0sYT8k

Awesome. :awesome

[Mider T]

Well Avatar Is On At 8, But Rock Honors And Impact Are Both On At 9 So Ill Flip

You're lucky that's not during the finale or you'll need to buy 2 TVs:pek

[St. Jimmy]

Yeah..................
I Already Bribed My Little Bro And Sis They Can Get On At My Dad's On Friday At 8, And Saturday At 8, And Then Ill Get On After Those 2 Episodes And Rant About What Happened :LOS

[Jove]

Apparently there's a new commercial out there with a ton of new footage from the finale. I wish I got Nicktoons, I'll just have to wait for it to surface. :(

Detailed description of it here, obviously spoiler material for those that want to go into the finale cold:

http://www.freewebs.com/usapotterfan/avatar.htm

[Mider T]

Shit man...I have nicktoons....but I'm not in the states right now. It should be on youtube by tommorrow though.

EDIT: Broken link Jove

[Jove]

Shit man...I have nicktoons....but I'm not in the states right now. It should be on youtube by tommorrow though.

EDIT: Broken link Jove

Ah, Christmas trees. I messed that up like a noob. It's working now.

[Ritsu]

Oooh I'm excited! The finale starts tonight!

[Mider T]

No the new episodes start tonight, leading to the finale.

[Random Member]

Can't wait. Looks like it'll be a good week. :del

[kewlmyc]

It's at 8pm right?

[Mider T]

Please don't post without reading beforehand, at least the previous page

[Jove]

It's at 8pm right?

Yes. Every night this week at 8PM.

[Noah]

Changing the thread title to "Avatar: New Episodes all week at 8pm" or something of the sort would be fantastical. Not that it'll matter though, we'll still get the questions every 3rd post.

Also, since I didn't comment at all on Book 3 yet: The Beach was awesome. Jove doesn't know what he's talking about. :awesome

[Serp]

:sag Its 8pm right :LOS

I Keed, I keed, Im sorry I just had to ask, as a joke of sorts. :zaru
Not that it matters to me living in england, I'll have to wait till the following day :P

[Superstarseven]

Yes. Every night this week at 8PM.

I don't understand.
You mean this week that we're experiencing right now?



At 8?

[Mider T]

:lmao

What about the day time's version of 8 o' clock? Do those count as well?:zaru

[Noah]

:sag Its 8pm right :LOS

I Keed, I keed, Im sorry I just had to ask, as a joke of sorts. :zaru
Not that it matters to me living in england, I'll have to wait till the following day :P

Ah. Bastards.

Anyway, that's how it's gonna be for me for Ember Isle Players and Sozin's Comet. Unfotunately, women and Batman take precedence on weekend nights. Hopefully there will be a decent quality rip available shortly afterward.

...This is me offering awesome rep for anyone who gets the initial link, downloads and then re-ups it again a few times so that we don't have 4 hour download times like I had for Boiling Rock. Reps, I says!

[\zol]

OMG DID ANYONE SEE THAT COMMERICAL? OH MY FUCKING GOD!

Aang is all like "I guess I have to kill the Firelord"

Please tell me I'm not the only one who saw it?

OMG IF YOU SAW IT YOU MUST HAVE PASSED OUT JESUS OMG

[Dimezanime20]

/Zol; they've been running that commercial throughout the day and I think the past weekend as well. But yea, it is EPIC!

Anyways, watching The Western Air Temple again just reminded me of how a bitch Katara was towards Zuko.

[MasterChick]

Yea that commercial was EPIC WIN!!! :high

[Mider T]

Somebody upload it to Youtube

In the meantime http://en.genzu.net/sokumen/
Katara is Uterus:hehee

[\zol]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fIp2BCJCvo

Here it is btw

[Linkdarkside]

dammit about 20 minute in the episode it started raining and los the dish dignal i gues i have to watch the rerun at 11pm on nickw

/Zol; they've been running that commercial throughout the day and I think the past weekend as well. But yea, it is EPIC!

Anyways, watching The Western Air Temple again just reminded me of how a bitch Katara was towards Zuko.
um he was chasing them for like forever she have all rights to act like that

[Ema Skye]

OMG DID ANYONE SEE THAT COMMERICAL? OH MY FUCKING GOD!

Aang is all like "I guess I have to kill the Firelord"

Please tell me I'm not the only one who saw it?

OMG IF YOU SAW IT YOU MUST HAVE PASSED OUT JESUS OMG

It was pretty damn epic :iria

I agree with you about Katara Dimezanime19 :noworry

[Mrs.Lovett]

I cannot wait! Three more hours...

[Mider T]

Your on the West coast?

[Dimezanime20]

dammit about 20 minute in the episode it started raining and los the dish dignal i gues i have to watch the rerun at 11pm on nickw


um he was chasing them for like forever she have all rights to act like that


Yes, I know. The other members have already debated about the topic when it first leaked. I was just annoyed by her behavior. Her actions were understandable, just her way of going about it was annoying.


And oh, with the trailer, I realized that I had a good guess with my fanart:
http://kasugokage88.deviantart.com/art/Book3-FIRE-Alternative-75275336

[Mider T]

Dimez, I hear talk your one of the oldest members on this forum and was around for the previous NF...is that true?

[Superrazien]

Dam you guys see some of those new previews. Man The finally is going to define epic.

[Jove]

That commercial was phenomenal.

What was jaw-dropping: Aang's four element swirling bend, which should be the immortal image of the series.

Not so good: The confirmation that Katara is fighting Azula with Zuko. And not merely that, but Zuko ends up twitching on the ground. Godammit.


You know, I was appalled when it was confirmed that all the episodes were airing in a week, but this is really exciting.

[kakoishii]

OMG DID ANYONE SEE THAT COMMERICAL? OH MY FUCKING GOD!

Aang is all like "I guess I have to kill the Firelord"

Please tell me I'm not the only one who saw it?

OMG IF YOU SAW IT YOU MUST HAVE PASSED OUT JESUS OMG

:amazed in a child's program, on nick of all places? That's blasphemous! All kidding aside, I work 5-9:30 all week so I guess I'll be watching these on west coast nick all week at 11PM :now goes to watch epic commercial where the "k" word was mentioned:

[Mider T]

I thought Nick didn't say dead until Spongebob

[masterriku]

totally not todays topic but what the hell:
Let me get this straight we attack anyone who runs in here next week saying,

I JUST WATCHED ALL THE EPISODES OF AVATAR IT WAS THE SHIT

right:pek


Also the finale commerical is is well I am without words epic I'll proably not be able to talk on sunday after seeing it:nod

[Jove]

Do I need to spoiler tag commercial information? I mean, it aired; if you haven't seen it, it's on you. But I still feel like I should.


Anyway, I'm pretty sure the person telling Aang that he must do anything to protect the World is Avatar Yangchen

[Noah]

Ya know, after seeing that preview, I'm really disappointed that Sparky Sparky Galactic Booming Combustion Man died so quickly. I was the first one in the thread to say Sokka would take him out, but I really expected him to be Sokka's final boss. Now what the hell is he supposed to do?

I wondered this back when The Western Air Temple was first leaked last year, but now that it's so close and we know what happens at the end of the Boiling Rock (his other possible villain(s)), I'm really stuck trying to figure out what he's going to do.

Toph too.

....and the new addition at the end of Boiling Rock!

Damn. What the hell are all these people gonna do while Aang, Zuko and Katara are keeping Azula and Ozai busy?

[kakoishii]

^ if you ask me not having someone BIG for Toph to take on is a big mistake. I can forgive them not having someone for Sokka since he's had quite a few episodes to shine this season, but Toph has been completely wasted. She's a badass earth bender who can also now bend metal and she's basically scuttled aside for comic relief during the rare times Sokka's having a serious moment, I mean wth? My guess as to why she's had so little screen time is because her badassery would rival Aangs (or possibly even shadow it), and you can't have that so close to the finale, you know, the avatar's time to shine.

As for the commercial, besides it being completely and utterly EPIC, that "do what ever it takes" pretty much sanctions Aang to go completely apeshit on anyone who gets in his way for his mission to end the war. And that equals total finale awesomenes :awesome

[Dimezanime20]

Dimez, I hear talk your one of the oldest members on this forum and was around for the previous NF...is that true?

My bad, was doing my new set. But yea, I am. Why you ask?

[Mider T]

lol your set

Your in a reference thread in the Chatterbox

[Dimezanime20]

lol your set

Your in a reference thread in the Chatterbox

Yup. I know what thread you're talking about. I thought I deserved a mention since I've been on NF for so long.lol

And oh Mider, I have to spread rep again before I can give you another. But I could've sworn you used to be Pajamas? You know, with the bananas and shit.lol But I could be wrong. Honestly, there's not much that I can remember. I'm not one of those on here claiming that NF use to be better. The only shit I remember that was awesome was the Tazmo vs Trigunflame 'war', and what happened in that 'war' with an ex-member named Kane.

[Jove]

Dimez, I have to say... Gary Glitter would cringe at the pedo-ness of your new set.

This was the first episode I had seen in HD, and Avatar is incredible in hi-def. Aang's arrow is a different shade of blue! The bending looks so crisp... the difference is astounding.

[Dimezanime20]

Dimez, I have to say... Gary Glitter would cringe at the pedo-ness of your new set.

Who said it had anything to do with pedo?:pek











:awesome

[Michael Jacksőn]

The ads were so fuckin hot. Holy crap. 4 Elements + Avatar State + New Avatar Powers (?) = OWNAGE!

[Irishwonder]

Not so good: The confirmation that Katara is fighting Azula with Zuko. And not merely that, but Zuko ends up twitching on the ground. Godammit.

My prediction
I bet you anything that he takes a bolt to the chest protecting Katara. But I kinda wonder how this happens anyway seeing as how he knows how to redirect lightning :huh

[Koi]

FUCK I need to see that commercial. x[ I was out tonight, so I didn't get to catch TWAT (lol twat) on Nick. Fuck. (I've seen it before though, but I really wanted to watch it on-screen.) And I work tomorrow and Thursdayyyyyy. Asdfghjkl. :(

[Jove]

My prediction
I bet you anything that he takes a bolt to the chest protecting Katara. But I kinda wonder how this happens anyway seeing as how he knows how to redirect lightning :huh

That's what I was thinking, too. When he was training with Iroh, there were two main points about the redirection of lightning:

1. It can be done.

2. If the lightning passes through your heart, you could die.

#1 came to pass in DoBS, but #2 is far too strong to be ignored, especially for something in a Book 2 episode, where every line meant something. It has to come back somehow.

[Jove]

FUCK I need to see that commercial. x[ I was out tonight, so I didn't get to catch TWAT (lol twat) on Nick. Fuck. And I work tomorrow and Thursdayyyyyy. Asdfghjkl. :(

This is it. Prepare to be amazed:

YjkkgyMVxEw

[Koi]

Holy crap Jove, thank you!!



I CANNOT WAIT.

[Shade]

Yup. I know what thread you're talking about. I thought I deserved a mention since I've been on NF for so long.lol

And oh Mider, I have to spread rep again before I can give you another. But I could've sworn you used to be Pajamas? You know, with the bananas and shit.lol But I could be wrong. Honestly, there's not much that I can remember. I'm not one of those on here claiming that NF use to be better. The only shit I remember that was awesome was the Tazmo vs Trigunflame 'war', and what happened in that 'war' with an ex-member named Kane.

Haha, dude, I remember in my lurking days of when you first joined. You got hated on like no tomorrow, I still remember that one hate poster someone made of you but with a white guy. That was one funny thread.

OT:Just trying to make sure here, what time does the show air on Nick? I wanna catch it in HD. :iria

[Jove]

Holy crap Jove, thank you!!



I CANNOT WAIT.

Oh my god, me either. I don't think anyone can anymore. I was so excited just to watch tonight's episode, an episode I had already seen twice... and this commercial pushed me over the edge. I won't make it through the week with my sanity.

[Irishwonder]

That's what I was thinking, too. When he was training with Iroh, there were two main points about the redirection of lightning:

1. It can be done.

2. If the lightning passes through your heart, you could die.

#1 came to pass in DoBS, but #2 is far too strong to be ignored, especially for something in a Book 2 episode, where every line meant something. It has to come back somehow.

Yeah I could see that happening. I can also see Katara whipping out more spirit water to help heal Zuko's wound. (Another action that they originally alluded to)

[Dimezanime20]

I still remember that one hate poster someone made of you but with a white guy. That was one funny thread.


What!!?@.@

[Mider T]

I read the spoilers....I can't say anything:D:

Yup. I know what thread you're talking about. I thought I deserved a mention since I've been on NF for so long.lol

And oh Mider, I have to spread rep again before I can give you another. But I could've sworn you used to be Pajamas? You know, with the bananas and shit.lol But I could be wrong. Honestly, there's not much that I can remember. I'm not one of those on here claiming that NF use to be better. The only shit I remember that was awesome was the Tazmo vs Trigunflame 'war', and what happened in that 'war' with an ex-member named Kane.

:wha When has pajamas ever used bananas? I had an account on here back in Dec. 04 where I met pajamas, then met him again when I first made this account.

What happened during that war?:wtf Your like veteran.

[Jove]

I read the spoilers....I can't say anything:D:.

As I've said before: Spoiling yourself with a book, f'shame!

[Mider T]

But I didn't actually read the book, just the spoilers of the people who did:(

I disgust myself

[Koi]

Oh my god, me either. I don't think anyone can anymore. I was so excited just to watch tonight's episode, an episode I had already seen twice... and this commercial pushed me over the edge. I won't make it through the week with my sanity.

Oh I know. :D I already told my fiance in the car today, "Listen. If we're together on Saturday, you know what? At eight P.M., everything stops, and we are fucking watching Avatar. And you're just gonna have to deal with it." He smiled and agreed. I know for a fact that he likes the series, but will rarely admit it. :hehee

I'm so upset I'm working Thursday night though. :( We have DV-R recording but I don't always trust it. I'm gonna try and record the episode to watch when I get home, but at the same time I'm almost counting on someone to rip it and upload it just in case it doesn't work. xD TSR is the one I'm looking forward to the most this week (With the exception of Saturday, which is a totally different story, heh).

But seriously? I haven't been this excited about a series since Harry Potter ended. The last book disappointed me, but even judging from that commercial I know Avatar is gonna deliver above and beyond the call of duty.

[Mider T]

Show em whose boss:C

[kakoishii]

aw shit, southern raiders is thursday? Great, why the hell did I schedule work that day?!

[Jove]

You know, this may seem like exaggeration, but I'm totally serious and sincere:

Why couldn't they have decided to shut down the country for this week? We all need the day to prepare for the episodes, and the late-night/early-morning to reflect and meditate on what we saw.

[westway50]

ok im a little confused on the schedule of the shows. are they showing two episodes on a certain day?? like tuesday will be the fire bending masters. wednesday and thursday will be the boiling rock. then friday will be two new unleaked eps??

[Mider T]

4, good friend, 4

[Koi]

You know, this may seem like exaggeration, but I'm totally serious and sincere:

Why couldn't they have decided to shut down the country for this week? We all need the day to prepare for the episodes, and the late-night/early-morning to reflect and meditate on what we saw.

Oh I am totally down for that.

aw shit, southern raiders is thursday? Great, why the hell did I schedule work that day?!

:( I feel you. I'm soooo hoping to maybe get sent home early. xDD I already looked at our schedule, and there are way too many people on anyway, heh.

[Canute87]

I'm not liking some of those commercials

What's with the katara and zuko moments :pek

[Jove]

I'm not liking some of those commercials

What's with the katara and zuko moments :pek

It's things as they should be, and how they shall remain! :mad

[The Cheat]

I missed the first time WAT aired but luckily i get nick2, so i was able to catch the 11:00 timeslot.

[Koi]

Wait wait.. so is just Nickelodeon showing it, or will that Nicktoons channel have the eps too?

EDIT-- Looks like Nicktoons Network will be showing Avatar from 2 PM to 5:30 on Saturday! Episodes go from The second DoBS all the way through to the Ember Island Players. :)

[Linkdarkside]

i watched the full episode at 11:00 pm i think it was very good but the boomerang trow was wierd,i liked how combustion man die.

[animesuperfreak]

i liked how he died too. anyone know when the movies being aired?

[Ziko]

Oh...my...GOD! That commercial was freaking AWESOME!!!
HOLY SHIT! DAMN! HELL!

Can't WAIT for the new episodes! And watching new avatar eps for like almost two hours? It'll be AWESOME!

[Jove]

For everyone in the US, there's a bit more to the schedule.

Tonight, Western Air Temple aires at 7:30, before Firebending Masters.

Tomorrow, WAT airs at 7:00 and FB at 7:30, before Boiling Rock.

Thursday, Boiling Rock airs from 7-8, before Southern Raiders.

Obviously, we've seen them enough by now, but Avatar on the main Nick is a rare, and soon to be extinct, treat.

[Koi]

No Southern Raiders before Ember Island Players though, huh? :(

[Ryuk]

I just watched Avatar yesterday. It was awesome.

[Jove]

No Southern Raiders before Ember Island Players though, huh? :(

Not that I saw, but maybe it will change.

[Nizuma Eiji]

This is it. Prepare to be amazed:

YjkkgyMVxEw


Was I the only one who nutted watching this?

[kakoishii]

I'm officially switching out my night shift on thursday to a morning shift on saturday. I just refuse to miss southern riders and I can't stay up to 11PM to watch on nick2 since I've got an 8AM class the next day. Yea that's right, avatar rules my life right now anyone got a problem with that :pek

[Superstarseven]

I love this. You guys are on a Naruto forum discussing shutting down the country for a week and changing work shifts to celebrate Avatar.
Meanwhile I got another guy on a board talking about the scheduling sucks on Saturday because he's surely not going to miss Naruto to watch the series finale of Avatar.

You can read a Turkish cookbook and it'll still have as much relevance to Naruto's canon then an hour of filler episodes. What an idiot.

Anyway yeah Leathaface, that promo is great. I'm not sure why people were surprised that the finale looks so good. As if a 62 page summary is going to compare to a fully orchestrated and animated 2-hour event such as this.

[Nizuma Eiji]

Anyway yeah Leathaface, that promo is great. I'm not sure why people were surprised that the finale looks so good. As if a 62 page summary is going to compare to a fully orchestrated and animated 2-hour event such as this.

I know but its level of awesomeness, is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off the charts. My highest expectations look to have broken. :nod My god I'm gonna miss Avatar. I hope Mike & Bryan deliver us another show within the next 2 to 3 years.

[Koi]

I'm officially switching out my night shift on thursday to a morning shift on saturday. I just refuse to miss southern riders and I can't stay up to 11PM to watch on nick2 since I've got an 8AM class the next day. Yea that's right, avatar rules my life right now anyone got a problem with that :pek

Lucky.. :( I can't switch cause I'm only working three shifts this week and it's not worth throwing off everyone else's schedules when I'm working the least amount of hours anyway. xD

But tonight! I commence the DVR experiment. TBR should record tonight and if that goes well then I'll feel much 'safer' recording TSR, heh.

[Superstarseven]

I'd be an idiot if I didn't post this. It's a must see for everyone in this thread who enjoys the show.

http://blacksataguni.deviantart.com/art/avatar-line-test-of-1th-season-91776760

Some animation done by kihyun ryu who worked on the first season of Avatar.
He also worked/works? on the Boondocks if you interested in that also.

[ViolentlyHappy]

I'd be an idiot if I didn't post this. It's a must see for everyone in this thread who enjoys the show.

http://blacksataguni.deviantart.com/art/avatar-line-test-of-1th-season-91776760

Some animation done by kihyun ryu who worked on the first season of Avatar.
He also worked/works? on the Boondocks if you interested in that also.

That's pretty cool. It's weird to see lineart in motion though. :laugh


I've got a question though. I was watching The Western Air Temple last night, and it said that all the episodes this week were world premiere episodes, but The Firebending Master and The Boiling Rock Part I & II are already out on the web. So does that mean that all of these episodes were bootlegged?

[kakoishii]

Lucky.. :( I can't switch cause I'm only working three shifts this week and it's not worth throwing off everyone else's schedules when I'm working the least amount of hours anyway. xD

But tonight! I commence the DVR experiment. TBR should record tonight and if that goes well then I'll feel much 'safer' recording TSR, heh.

I feel bad for you, luckily I set my own schedule so switching shifts is fine so long as the shift isn't full and I do it at least an hour before the shift I'm switching out of begins. On the bright side you have DVR, I wish I had DVR, but for the finale I do want to catch it as it airs just for the anticipatory sense :amuse

@superstarseven, whoever that guy is who's watching naruto instead he is surely a moron. Don't get me wrong, I love naruto, but no other televised event on saturday could possibly keep me from watching the completely EPIC season finale of avatar. I mean seriously, naruto is doing fillers right now and I'm pretty sure they're still in that awful hoshigakure arc, who would watch that over avatar. Even if dubbed Part 2 of Naruto was starting this saturday I would STILL watch the avatar finale over it. Face it avatar is just that awesome :edu (though if the Dark Knight was opening saturday instead of friday then we might have a problem :sweatdrop)

[Jove]

I love this. You guys are on a Naruto forum discussing shutting down the country for a week and changing work shifts to celebrate Avatar.
Meanwhile I got another guy on a board talking about the scheduling sucks on Saturday because he's surely not going to miss Naruto to watch the series finale of Avatar.

You can read a Turkish cookbook and it'll still have as much relevance to Naruto's canon then an hour of filler episodes. What an idiot.

Anyway yeah Leathaface, that promo is great. I'm not sure why people were surprised that the finale looks so good. As if a 62 page summary is going to compare to a fully orchestrated and animated 2-hour event such as this.

Which board? Technically, I'm a member of ASN; I just don't post there. I'd rather post about stuff on forums devoted to something else. That does sound like a DH type complaint, though.

[Superstarseven]

Which board? Technically, I'm a member of ASN; I just don't post there. I'd rather post about stuff on forums devoted to something else. That does sound like a DH type complaint, though.

Toonzone actually. Alright sure I was probably too hasty in calling the guy an idiot but c'mon now, you're gonna watch the first hour of the Finale and immediately tune into Cartoon Network at 9pm as if watching 2 Naruto filler episodes are more important? Dude obviously just isn't that big a fan, not sure why he's lurking in an Avatar related thread though but it's no big deal.

Anyway screw that and enjoy a picture of the first ever Combustion Man cosplayer.
http://syonanto.deviantart.com/art/Sparky-you-rock-man-90681930

[Jove]

Toonzone actually. Alright sure I was probably too hasty in calling the guy an idiot but c'mon now, you're gonna watch the first hour of the Finale and immediately tune into Cartoon Network at 9pm as if watching 2 Naruto filler episodes are more important? Dude obviously just isn't that big a fan, not sure why he's lurking in an Avatar related thread though but it's no big deal.

Anyway screw that and enjoy a picture of the first ever Combustion Man cosplayer.
http://syonanto.deviantart.com/art/Sparky-you-rock-man-90681930

Actually, I thought that "idiot" was far too considerate. The only reason to watch the Naruto dub filler is for the engrossing irony. You can't watch them with any sincerity.

Wow, that's an excellent cosplay.

[Michael Jacksőn]

8:00 PM = Greatest Time In The World

Okay, I might be exxagerating but I'm so freakin hyped!

[Jove]

Man, I forgot how good The Firebending Masters is; the judgment scene looks incredible in HD.

By the way, Nick.com has an Avatar theme for this week. This is the background, which is pretty awesome: http://www.nick.com/common/layout07/images/avatar_hpBkg.jpg

[Michael Jacksőn]

Holy fuckin shit, that episode was awesome! Aang is gonna freakin own Firelord.

[Kaenboshi]

Great episode as always. :pleased

After seeing only two episodes, anyone else feel this week the slowest ever?

[kakoishii]

Great episode as always. :pleased

After seeing only two episodes, anyone else feel this week the slowest ever?

funny you should mention that, I just told someone at work how slow I thought this week was going, I thought it was Wednesday but alas it's still tuesday. Anyway after going out of my way to make sure I saw thursday's avatar I think I'm gonna end up missing fridays, it's a tough choice but I'm just as excited to see batman friday as I am to see avatar, so I guess batman wins at least for that day.

[Omolara]

Crud. I just realized that I've got a wedding to go to on Saturday. I found out today that the wedding is going to be at 5:30, and Avatar will come on at 7 (Central). :arg
Ah well, that just means that my sister and I will be up late Saturday night waiting on a good stream.

[Kaenboshi]

^ That sucks. :(funny you should mention that, I just told someone at work how slow I thought this week was going, I thought it was Wednesday but alas it's still tuesday. Anyway after going out of my way to make sure I saw thursday's avatar I think I'm gonna end up missing fridays, it's a tough choice but I'm just as excited to see batman friday as I am to see avatar, so I guess batman wins at least for that day. Oh yeah. :hmm

I'll probably see Batman during the day sometime this weekend.

[ViolentlyHappy]

Ah, that was a great episode. :laugh I find it highly entertaining that my dad watched TFM with me.

Can't wait until Thursday because the episodes after TBR will be starting and I want to watch. :ohpek And of course Saturday is going to be a full two hour epic event.

[Jove]

Honestly, I've had the opposite opinion about this week; it's going too fast. I'm savoring every second of this.

At this point, it's simply catch-up. The anticipation is for episodes we've seen. Tomorrow at 9:00 PM, I start to freak out.

[Noah]

Hey Jove! Quit being a weenie and start ripping your HD feed so we can have it too! :awesome

Also, I'm going to say this now. Party as a request, and partly as a warning. Once the premiere episodes start, if I miss one, I'm only going to post in the thread to request someone PM me a link to a torrent or ddl. I'll be keeping my eyes on the torrent sites, but I'll be looking here too and, depending on how fast the posts move, I may be doing it moderately often. Of course, that's only if I miss anything. It's likely to be the finale though. Damn Imax Batman is entirely sold out here on Friday. :notrust

But, on the same note: If someone is providing links to a torrent/ddl of the new episodes, can it be made either painfully clear (read: really friggin big and bold)? This way, any of us who miss an episode won't have to risk sifting through spoilers to find it. Or, in my case, a PM would result in mass reps and happy me. :awesome

Also: Green and purple flames are win. Here's hoping for more green and purple flames.

[Jove]

Hey Jove! Quit being a weenie and start ripping your HD feed so we can have it too! :awesome

Also, I'm going to say this now. Party as a request, and partly as a warning. Once the premiere episodes start, if I miss one, I'm only going to post in the thread to request someone PM me a link to a torrent or ddl. I'll be keeping my eyes on the torrent sites, but I'll be looking here too and, depending on how fast the posts move, I may be doing it moderately often. Of course, that's only if I miss anything. It's likely to be the finale though. Damn Imax Batman is entirely sold out here on Friday. :notrust

But, on the same note: If someone is providing links to a torrent/ddl of the new episodes, can it be made either painfully clear (read: really friggin big and bold)? This way, any of us who miss an episode won't have to risk sifting through spoilers to find it. Or, in my case, a PM would result in mass reps and happy me. :awesome

Also: Green and purple flames are win. Here's hoping for more green and purple flames.

I'm not rippin' nuthin! You like The Beach, so I'm not listening to you! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/ZaruHmph.png

Actually, I don't have any equipment to rip, but I'll keep a close eye out for uploads, just in case you miss an episode. I'm sure there will be plenty.

[Mider T]

Jove you put a hat on the hand of that smilie it'll be so much win.

Southern Raiders airs Thursday right?(Just makin sure)

[Kaenboshi]

Yes, it does.

[Jove]

At 8 PM!!!!!!!!

[Superstarseven]

Alright this next disturbing fanart was drawn by a 15 year old who imagines herself getting pregnant with Zuko's baby.

http://fayt-of-the-darkness.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-Your-Kid-pg-1-91822331


No..it's completely normal.

[Noah]

I'm not rippin' nuthin! You like The Beach, so I'm not listening to you! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/joviansatellite/ZaruHmph.png

Actually, I don't have any equipment to rip, but I'll keep a close eye out for uploads, just in case you miss an episode. I'm sure there will be plenty.

Pfft. You just don't understand, man! [EvenBetterCustomKnowitallSmiley]

And yeah, there will be plenty. The problem will be when someone misses an episode and has to find them. It will basically be like the final four days leading up to the 7th Harry Potter book. It just won't be safe to look for them. We were able to partially rely on spoiler tags when the novelized Sozin's Comet came out, but this is the official Nick airing. Spoiler tags are non-existant the moment the opening credits appear on Saturday.

That's why, if I manage to see everything and find an episode when others are requesting it, I'm just going to make a post any time a new page is up. It'll basically be 72pt font saying "[EPISODE NAME] DDL/TORRENT" with a link. I'm just asking anyone else who finds one to do the same. It will be annoying, but it will really help out anyone who misses an episode.

...but seriously. If Nick is airing these in HD, why don't I see any torrents for them? :notrust

[Koi]

Fuuuuuuck I cann't wait until Thursday! D: I feel like I need to constantly occupy myself to make the wait not seem as long, heh.

[Kaenboshi]

Alright this next disturbing fanart was drawn by a 15 year old who imagines herself getting pregnant with Zuko's baby.

http://fayt-of-the-darkness.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-Your-Kid-pg-1-91822331


No..it's completely normal.:oh

:rotfl wut? :rotfl

[Jove]

Alright this next disturbing fanart was drawn by a 15 year old who imagines herself getting pregnant with Zuko's baby.

http://fayt-of-the-darkness.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-Your-Kid-pg-1-91822331


No..it's completely normal.

"<< Read That Way"

Hmmm... she may, just may, be a weeaboo.

[Kaenboshi]

On second thought, that's more screwed up than funny.

[Snow]

If someone PMs me a link to a passable version of Thursday, Friday, and Saturday's (?) episodes, as I work till 11 PM all 3 of those nights, I'd be eternally grateful, and reps galore. :awesome

Or if not just let me know when it reruns. I just need my fix. I miss not having TiVo. :(

[Superstarseven]

Sad thing is I believe this will be the last time Avatar is shown on Nickelodeon. Not even just first run episodes but the entire series. Chances of rerunning the series during the afternoon or before primetime look pretty slim. After this they're all getting dumped to Nicktoons for sure. Nickelodeon has really treated the show badly this season. I always remember catching the reruns on Saturday at least 2 times during the airing of Book 2. With this new season If you didn't have Nicktoons, Tivo, the internet or the money to buy the DVD's..Friday was the only day to see new episodes.

Anyway no reruns scheduled for Sozin's Comet. You see it live or you never see it at all.

I'll be relying on Torrents for Southern Raiders all the way to the finale.

[Mider T]

Or you see it online.

[Jove]

I never ever considered that normal episodes of Avatar would ever air on main Nick again. The scheduling and treatment Book 3 has been nothing short of malfeasance. Which is inexplicable, considering the ratings that the second half of Book 2 got.


Anyway, I'm excited about Boiling Rock tonight. I'm giddy thinking about the kids who decided to wait until the airdate to watch it; for them, tonight will be worth the 7.5 month wait.

[Koi]

At this point I seriously consider us lucky that they're even airing the finale, and final episodes. :\ Back in April I was really worried that Avatar would suffer the same fate as Carnivale, and just lack any sort of closure or anything.

I've read some of Giancarlo's journals on dA, and I think it's a disgrace that Nick doesn't even let the show's director in on when it'll be airing and whatnot.

[The Cheat]

Nick sucks at scheduling. Why would they air the final episodes like this? They usually only air episodes like this for shows that got lower than expected ratings like danny phantom.

[kakoishii]

At this point I seriously consider us lucky that they're even airing the finale, and final episodes. :\ Back in April I was really worried that Avatar would suffer the same fate as Carnivale, and just lack any sort of closure or anything.

I've read some of Giancarlo's journals on dA, and I think it's a disgrace that Nick doesn't even let the show's director in on when it'll be airing and whatnot.
haven't you heard? Nick considers itself god, since when does god tell you when and where he's gonna fuck with your life :zaru? All joking aside, this isn't anything out of the ordninary. This is typical nickelodeon bullshitting and screwing over that they've been doing for at least 10 years now. It's no surprise they'd do it again in grand fashion with yet another show that doesn't suck balls, funny how they never do this to shows that do suck.

[Muk]

its 8pm pacific time right? or is it 8 pm east time? cause if its east i might be able to watch it

[Koi]

8 PM Eastern, I'm pretty sure.

Edit FUCK I forgot how hot Hakoda is/was. :iria

EDIT TWO - So I'm watching TBR with my bro, and when Azula starts doing her whole jetpack thing, he goes, '..I would what would happen if she farted.' :lmao

[Jove]

23 HOURS UNTIL SOUTHERN RAIDERS!


Holy fuck, that flash preview was awesome.

[\zol]

So it looks like to revenge time!

[kakoishii]

oh yes, I'm so giddy right now I could laugh manically, but bro would thing I'm nuts so I've contained myself :P but did you guys see that preview for TSR? I am seriously soooo happy I switched out my thursday night shift now :amuse

btw the Zukko and Katara ownage that will surely happen is just a very extra special bonus :awesome

[Koi]

Holy fucking shit yeah that preview looked AMAZING.

NNNNGH AUGH GOD WHY DO I HAVE TO WORK TOMORROW NIGHT?! :uwah :uwah :uwah

[Jove]

oh yes, I'm so giddy right now I could laugh manically, but bro would thing I'm nuts so I've contained myself :P but did you guys see that preview for TSR? I am seriously soooo happy I switched out my thursday night shift now :amuse

btw the Zukko and Katara ownage that will surely happen is just a very extra special bonus :awesome

HE...CALLS...KATARA...BY...HER...NAME!!!!!!!!!!!

We're getting closer to him calling Aang by his name!

[ViolentlyHappy]

The Southern Raiders preview looked badass. :iria

[Koi]

Oh guys-- if anyone has Nicktoons network, they're replaying the Sozin's Comet 'movie' on Sunday!

I have to look up the time, but it's most definitely on the schedule.

[Jove]

Oh guys-- if anyone has Nicktoons network, they're replaying the Sozin's Comet 'movie' on Sunday!

I have to look up the time, but it's most definitely on the schedule.

The official beginning of Avatar's banishment...:(


Another thing about The Southern Raiders... I like how the post-Invasion episodes have a theme of Zuko helping the Gaang. It's kind of like a Zuko trilogy: he goes on a mission with Aang, Sokka, and then Katara.

And once again, Toph is totally overlooked.

[Linkdarkside]

i loved to day doble episode and the Mai and Ty Lee betrayal

now azula is alone.

[Koi]

The official beginning of Avatar's banishment...:(


Another thing about The Southern Raiders... I like how the post-Invasion episodes have a theme of Zuko helping the Gaang. It's kind of like a Zuko trilogy: he goes on a mission with Aang, Sokka, and then Katara.

And once again, Toph is totally overlooked.

Actually, Nicktoons is doing what I kinda thought Nick might do-- this week they're actually showing every single Avatar episode. It's kinda neat. From 2 P.M. to I think 7 P.M. every day this week, and then on Saturday.

[Luckyday]

For nearly five months, I been waiting to say these very words to see the new episodes.:notrust
It's about FUCKING time Nick.

[Chatulio]

You know after missing the torrents for the TBR I was sad :( Then I saw the comercial that they would be showing all the post DoBS including new ones leading up to and including the Sozens comet tetralogy I nearly jumped out of my chair and shouted out in the most fanboyish way I know. :LOS.....But then I found out I had to work saturday from 4-10 and then I died a little on the inside :(

[Noah]

Goddamn health insurance paperwork kept me from important viewing events! Need link to Southern Raiders preview! Stat!

[Jove]

Goddamn health insurance paperwork kept me from important viewing events! Need link to Southern Raiders preview! Stat!

A great one just went up on youtube:

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Jesus, SO MUCH is going on in this preview. This may be the most packed single episode yet.

[kakoishii]

Goodness that trailer is soo orgasmic :amuse, and to the person who said nick wouldn't allow Katara to blood bend again ,the preview pretty much confirms she will so IN YOUR FACE!
@Jove: I wouldn't be surprised if Toph's Zuko time was that small segment she kind of had with him TWAT, she's gotten the shaft pretty much through out this season this is just another thing they're taking from her.

[Superstarseven]

HE...CALLS...KATARA...BY...HER...NAME!!!!!!!!!!!

We're getting closer to him calling Aang by his name!

Wow Jove,
You're 44 years old. I never figured you'd get excited by something like that.
By the way the Zutarians are going Bonkers for this episode.
This is a make it or break it episode for that 'ship...surely after all that time sparks will fly right?

Let's tune in to find out.