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Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 01:17 AM
Do you think Iroh's gonna try and take back the throne? Or at least fight his brother?
Apollo_alice
10-17-2007, 01:33 AM
My friend finally got me hooked on this show, and now i'm too waiting in earnest for everything and anything new.
I especially can't wait for more Iroh.
I wish the next ep would hurry up and come. :mad
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 01:50 AM
I wish the next ep would hurry up and come. :mad
You must be patient my son for waiting will make it all the much sweeter when it comes.
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 01:54 AM
According to the posts here, it seems like they ended on episode 3.
I didn't see chibi #1. Just 2 and 3.
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 12:13 PM
I now got the chance to see episode 4 and that was a great episode. Iroh gets cooler and cooler every time.
Yeah Iroh will beat the bald man with 3 eyes:yell
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 03:54 PM
I now got the chance to see episode 4 and that was a great episode. Iroh gets cooler and cooler every time.
WRONG! Iroh always has been that cool. It just took 3 years for mortal minds to finally beable to comprehend. :nod
Do you think Iroh's gonna try and take back the throne? Or at least fight his brother?
He might take the throne at the end of the series but he got pwned by Azula so I doubt he's going to hold much water up against the Fire Lord.
RacheT
10-17-2007, 06:16 PM
Do you think Iroh's gonna try and take back the throne? Or at least fight his brother?
He might fight his brother, and possibly weaken him some before he's unable to continue fighting. Aang will finish him off I guess. I don't think he'll take the throne, we'll probably see one of the newer generation taking it, Iroh's a bit past his prime to start ruling a nation.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 07:05 PM
He might take the throne at the end of the series but he got pwned by Azula so I doubt he's going to hold much water up against the Fire Lord.
He only got hit by Azula because 1. He was caught off guard and 2. He was out of shape. He has since trained himself, seemingly back to his previous physical level. I'm pretty sure he can at least give his younger brother a good ass whooping, if not defeat him.
Remember, Iroh was the crown prince his whole life until the day his father died.
He might fight his brother, and possibly weaken him some before he's unable to continue fighting. Aang will finish him off I guess. I don't think he'll take the throne, we'll probably see one of the newer generation taking it, Iroh's a bit past his prime to start ruling a nation.
Honestly, I think Aang is meant for something other than the Firelord.
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 07:08 PM
WRONG! Iroh always has been that cool. It just took 3 years for mortal minds to finally beable to comprehend. :nod
What's the moral of your story? Iroh was my second favorite character since Book 1.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Second?
Who could possibly me more likable than Iroh? :mad
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 07:14 PM
I'm a sucker for main characters.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 07:56 PM
What's the moral of your story? Iroh was my second favorite character since Book 1.
Second favorite?! It seems like some take longer to comprehend the greatness that is, Iroh: The Great Dragon of the West, than others...
Another year should make you come to your senses. :nod
narutofangd
10-17-2007, 08:00 PM
Second?
Who could possibly me more likable than Iroh? :mad
Zuko .
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 08:02 PM
Zuko .
:lmao .........................
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Second favorite?! It seems like some take longer to comprehend the greatness that is, Iroh: The Great Dragon of the West, than others...
Another year should make you come to your senses. :nod
Top 3 is Aang, Iroh, and Sokka. Katara and Toph is cool but they annoy me sometimes.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 08:13 PM
Lol, I know what you mean. Here are my faves:
adult: Iroh
male: Sokka
female: Toph
Omega id
10-17-2007, 08:14 PM
Something tells me Azula is stronger than the fire lord...
Anyway, thats an awsome edit Zol... Iroh is like the batman of this show... remember... they only win once... but never again. :P
Can someone make me an animated gif of Iroh doing 1 handed pull ups? lol
The Sentry
10-17-2007, 08:17 PM
Male: Zuko
Female: Toph
Adult: Guru Pathetic
Omega id
10-17-2007, 08:20 PM
Male: Toph
Female: Toph
Adult: Iroh
lol male being Toph is on purpose cause I actually don't have a favorite male character... Sokka's alright but not good enough to be a fav... besides... Toph is manlier than all of the avatar characters... except for Iroh. lol
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 08:20 PM
Adult: Iroh
Male: Aang/Sokka (Sokka is a pimp)
Female: Toph
RacheT
10-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Honestly, I think Aang is meant for something other than the Firelord.
well I didn't mean Aang. I meant Zuko. Like it or not he's the kind of character that can't stay evil. He'll probably do the same thing to the Fire Nation that he did to his uncle and Katara at end of season 2. Iroh is too humble to become a Fire Lord, I think. :LOS
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 08:25 PM
well I didn't mean Aang. I meant Zuko. Like it or not he's the kind of character that can't stay evil. He'll probably do the same thing to the Fire Nation that he did to his uncle and Katara at end of season 2. Iroh is too humble to become a Fire Lord, I think. :LOS
Zuko defeating Ozai? :LOS
rockst☆r sin
10-17-2007, 08:28 PM
Zuko can't even defeat Azola, his little sister. I really doubt he could match the Fire Lord. Iroh fighting him would be cool but you know this is going to Aang.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 08:33 PM
Something tells me Azula is stronger than the fire lord...
Anyway, thats an awsome edit Zol... Iroh is like the batman of this show... remember... they only win once... but never again. :P
Can someone make me an animated gif of Iroh doing 1 handed pull ups? lol
And while you're at it, could you make an animated gif of Soul Calibur Aang?
:wtf
http://i23.tinypic.com/adj58k.jpg
http://i20.tinypic.com/radhk4.jpg
Zuko .
I lol'd. Not sure if I was supposed to, though.
My fave will have to be Aang, regardless of the fact that I hate his voice with a passion.
RacheT
10-17-2007, 08:38 PM
Zuko defeating Ozai? :LOS
Noo :scry lol
Aang would end up defeating Ozai (since he's the main character and all) and, assuming Zuko's still not being an ass to basically everyone, would want to take the throne and shape the Fire Nation into something better than it currently is. Of course for that to happen the plot would have to flesh out in it's favor, but it's pretty likely Iroh will end up teaching Aang firebending, and I don't think Zuko will stay angry at Iroh/Iroh angry at Zuko. Iroh's always been a median between two conflicts, so Zuko might not become friends with Aang, but he might learn to respect him and his aspiration.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 08:45 PM
I think Aang might not defeat Ozai. It looks to me like Aang might have to take care of a greater threat. the comet maybe.
Regardless, Iroh is obviously preparing for something. And yeah, he probably is going to teach Aang firebending.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 08:51 PM
Ok, here's what I don't get:
Aang, somehow, is the only person capable of bending more than one element. That's... weird. Shouldn't any child be able to pick these things up. I mean, children learn things a lot faster than adults.
My nephews ar only 5 and 6 but they are fluent in Spanish. Neither my brother or their mom speak Spanish, they just learned it from the kids in the neighborhood.
I know it's a cartoon and all, but why aren't their other people who can "multi-bend"? I'm only 10, maybe 15% nerd. So I don't go the extra mile by going to conventions, reading the interviews and whatnot. Maybe someone here knows the answer? :huh
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 08:53 PM
Because people are born with the ability to bend, and no one bu the Avatar is born with the ability to bend more than one element. you can't just learn bending if you aren't born with the power.
RacheT
10-17-2007, 09:05 PM
Can someone make me an animated gif of Iroh doing 1 handed pull ups? lol
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd219/Flarecast/Irohpullup-1.gif
:LOS ?
Polygon: I guess that's possible, I mean, it is a freakin' comet and all :P Still I don't see Iroh defeating Ozai on his own. It's possible Iroh faces off against him, but isn't as strong. Zuko shows up and together they defeat him, or some corny crap like that.
Ok, here's what I don't get:
Aang, somehow, is the only person capable of bending more than one element. That's... weird. Shouldn't any child be able to pick these things up. I mean, children learn things a lot faster than adults.
My nephews ar only 5 and 6 but they are fluent in Spanish. Neither my brother or their mom speak Spanish, they just learned it from the kids in the neighborhood.
I know it's a cartoon and all, but why aren't their other people who can "multi-bend"? I'm only 10, maybe 15% nerd. So I don't go the extra mile by going to conventions, reading the interviews and whatnot. Maybe someone here knows the answer? :huh
What Polygon said. Even if there were people that could bend more than one element, the benders are scattered throughout separate cultures so if someone from the Water Tribe waltzed into the Fire Nation and was like "I can haz firebending?" they'd get lolb&.
Though it is a bit weird how people are born with the ability to bend in accordance to their nation's element. I wouldn't mind elaboration on that but they probably won't.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 09:14 PM
Thanks polygon.
nso that would be interesting. A fire bender born in the artic would probably melt the village and get exiled. :lmao
RacheT are you making the Aang gif as well?
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 09:16 PM
Polygon: I guess that's possible, I mean, it is a freakin' comet and all :P Still I don't see Iroh defeating Ozai on his own. It's possible Iroh faces off against him, but isn't as strong. Zuko shows up and together they defeat him, or some corny crap like that.
Why can't Iroh be as strong or stronger than Ozai?
Though it is a bit weird how people are born with the ability to bend in accordance to their nation's element. I wouldn't mind elaboration on that but they probably won't.
I thought about that a while ago, and there is one explanation I came up with. Over time, people with the same bending affinity starting grouping together. eventually these groups became, tribes, then villages, then Nations. Eventually, the nations was lose the genes of every element exept their own.
Why can't Iroh be as strong or stronger than Ozai?
I thought about that a while ago, and there is one explanation I came up with. Over time, people with the same bending affinity starting grouping together. eventually these groups became, tribes, then villages, then Nations. Eventually, the nations was lose the genes of every element exept their own.
Hm, makes sense. Or because all the royalty of most of the nations are benders of the one element, they are the founding fathers and thus most of the citizens are relatives, and from there what you said came into play and other clans of benders would move into their respected nations.
But then what about if a Water bender + fire bender interracial baby is born? :LOS
Or for that matter what if the Avatar has a child? Honestly, the previous avatars are old as hell. I find it hard to believe they didn't have kids. Maybe they go the Jedi way like the Indian guy suggested Aang do, and they're beyond human to human connections?
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 09:49 PM
But then what about if a Water bender + fire bender interracial baby is born? :LOS
I'd say they'd be either fire, water, or none.
Or for that matter what if the Avatar has a child? Honestly, the previous avatars are old as hell. I find it hard to believe they didn't have kids. Maybe they go the Jedi way like the Indian guy suggested Aang do, and they're beyond human to human connections?
If the Avatar had kids I guess the kid would most likely get whatever element the Avatar was born in. Like Aang's kid would be a airbender, Roku's a firebender etc.
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 09:51 PM
Hm, makes sense. Or because all the royalty of most of the nations are benders of the one element, they are the founding fathers and thus most of the citizens are relatives, and from there what you said came into play and other clans of benders would move into their respected nations.
But then what about if a Water bender + fire bender interracial baby is born? :LOS
Or for that matter what if the Avatar has a child? Honestly, the previous avatars are old as hell. I find it hard to believe they didn't have kids. Maybe they go the Jedi way like the Indian guy suggested Aang do, and they're beyond human to human connections?
They'd produce the world's first steam bender. :del
For that matter...wtf are 'sand benders' a variant of?
RacheT
10-17-2007, 09:55 PM
[QUOTE=Polygon;11274849]Why can't Iroh be as strong or stronger than Ozai?
Logically, it's possible. However, for the same of the story The strongest antagonist (assuming it's Ozai until proven otherwise) is stronger than every single character except the main character. Iroh defeating him on his own seems unreal, but considering that Zuko and Iroh both have/had strong relations with Ozai, it's possible that both of them can take him down. That's assuming that Aang is somehow unable to face off with Ozai.
A side note. Wouldn't it make sense to have Aang fight Ozai? I mean, the comet and all will be weakening firebending. Aang, having earth, water, and air at his disposal would have much more of an advantage over Iroh (and Zuko), unless they somehow miss the comet and have to fight Ozai at full strength.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 09:55 PM
Sand bender are just earth bender who bend sand.
Nizuma Eiji
10-17-2007, 09:56 PM
^^ROFL a steam bender would be so useless. Well at least until it was time for dinner.
The Sentry
10-17-2007, 09:56 PM
Sand benders are earth benders that use the style of air bending. That what i think anyways
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 09:56 PM
For that matter...wtf are 'sand benders' a variant of?
My guesse Earth and Air. That's where my steam bending idea came from. :nod
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 10:01 PM
]Logically, it's possible. However, for the same of the story The strongest antagonist (assuming it's Ozai until proven otherwise) is stronger than every single character except the main character. Iroh defeating him on his own seems unreal, but considering that Zuko and Iroh both have/had strong relations with Ozai, it's possible that both of them can take him down. That's assuming that Aang is somehow unable to face off with Ozai.
But Iroh was always more favored than Ozai in just about everything by his father. Iroh is his older brother. Iroh is one of the only firebenders known for his great skill and power. Not only that but he's depicted as one of the strongest guys in the series. He should be the firelord. Ozai probably killed hi dad and forged the will. Iroh is to Ozai what azula is to Zuko, only without the evil.
Ozai could be stronger, I just doubt it.
A side note. Wouldn't it make sense to have Aang fight Ozai? I mean, the comet and all will be weakening firebending. Aang, having earth, water, and air at his disposal would have much more of an advantage over Iroh (and Zuko), unless they somehow miss the comet and have to fight Ozai at full strength.I think there's gonna be more of a main obstacle than a main villain. Kinda like OP. think of Ozai as the WG and whatever Aang has to do and getting one piece.
RacheT
10-17-2007, 10:01 PM
Sand=Earth. All that's different in bending sand would be that the way they move the earth is in miniscule pieces of earth. Katara created a mist in ep 3-01 and 3-03, so I doubt steam would be comprised of both air and water. It's probably just water.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 10:02 PM
Benders can probably change the molecular density of their elements.
Nizuma Eiji
10-17-2007, 10:08 PM
Sand benders are earth benders that use the style of air bending. That what i think anyways
Nah sand benders are just regular Earth Benders who happen to live around alot of sand. I mean as you can see in the Library as the sand benders were taking Appa away Toph turned around for a minute to attempted to make the sand attack them, but she couldnt see where they were so all she could do was just make it rise & move a few feet.
Anyone know exactly what episode the sand benders are in?
LIL_M0
10-17-2007, 10:18 PM
Anyone know exactly what episode the sand benders are in?
The Fury of Aang: s02e10 and s02e11
the Library amd the Desert
The Question
10-17-2007, 10:55 PM
I don't think we've seen everything Iroh is capable of yet, which I guess is probably obvious. Even if he's not stronger than Ozai, he should at least give him a run for his money and possibly an ass whooping, even if he doesn't win.
Regardless, prepare for Iroh Pwnage.:nod
RacheT
10-17-2007, 11:08 PM
I don't think we've seen everything Iroh is capable of yet, which I guess is probably obvious. Even if he's not stronger than Ozai, he should at least give him a run for his money and possibly an ass whooping, even if he doesn't win.
Regardless, prepare for Iroh Pwnage.:nod
lol, yeah. I agree he's strong, but I just don't think he alone can take down Ozai. It'd be a better fit to see Zuko helping him. Zuko and Iroh have been traveling throughout two entire seasons (excluding the last few minutes of Ba Sing Se's finale) and it'd be wrong to see them not have some type of closure of being loyal to each other. Zuko wouldn't really have a part to play in any of this season if he stays loyal to Ozai.
Well now that I think about it, there's been nothing to say Iroh couldn't match Ozai.
It's been said that only the Avatar could stop the fire nation, but Ozai himself is a different story. Nothing separates the two but age and status.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Well now that I think about it, there's been nothing to say Iroh couldn't match Ozai.
It's been said that only the Avatar could stop the fire nation, but Ozai himself is a different story. Nothing separates the two but age and status.
Exactly. Everybody always thinks Ozai is some kind of God because of his status, but the fact remains that Iroh was always better than him. At least in the eyes of their father. and he has a bigger name imo.
Exactly. Everybody always thinks Ozai is some kind of God because of his status, but the fact remains that Iroh was always better than him. At least in the eyes of their father. and he has a bigger name imo.
Yeah, isn't it a bit odd how Ozai was simply chilling back at the palace while Iroh was out trying to penetrate Ba Sing Sae?
I'm not a fan of Zuko but I want to know what exactly happened with his Mom and Fire Lord Azul.
RacheT
10-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Exactly. Everybody always thinks Ozai is some kind of God because of his status, but the fact remains that Iroh was always better than him. At least in the eyes of their father. and he has a bigger name imo.
Not at all. I don't doubt Iroh being stronger than Ozai, but for plot purposes I think he's going to be weaker. It'd make a much better ending to the season to see Iroh being assisted by Zuko, and together they take him down. Rather than Iroh taking him down on his own. The potential coming from that, emotionally, I think would be much greater if Zuko and Iroh are able to fight side by side.
Pimp of Pimps
10-17-2007, 11:58 PM
I think Ozai and/or Azula might have killed Azulan and perhaps forged his will.
With Zuko's mom, it's quite the mystery. some people say she killed Azulan because he threatened to make Ozai feel what it would be to lose a son. Some say she ran. Some say Azula killed her.
Not at all. I don't doubt Iroh being stronger than Ozai, but for plot purposes I think he's going to be weaker. It'd make a much better ending to the season to see Iroh being assisted by Zuko, and together they take him down. Rather than Iroh taking him down on his own. The potential coming from that, emotionally, I think would be much greater if Zuko and Iroh are able to fight side by side.
Perhaps, but how would Zuko help in the fight? He's strong, but not strong enough to go against people like Ozai, Iroh, Bumi etc.
I think Ozai and/or Azula might have killed Azulan and perhaps forged his will.
With Zuko's mom, it's quite the mystery. some people say she killed Azulan because he threatened to make Ozai feel what it would be to lose a son. Some say she ran. Some say Azula killed her.
Perhaps, but how would Zuko help in the fight? He's strong, but not strong enough to go against people like Ozai, Iroh, Bumi etc.
Hm. I didn't think about his Mom killing Ozai, that makes the most sense to me.
lol at Azula killing him. That doesn't seem the least bit possible. She was like 7 years old, and I doubt that's the type of message Nickelodeon wants to give off.
I always thought maybe his mother took Zuko's place for Ozai's disregard for Iroh's loss, but the death of Azulan that same night is a bit too fishy for that.
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Oh and Zuko is MoMo level. :LOS
RacheT
10-18-2007, 12:11 AM
And while you're at it, could you make an animated gif of Soul Calibur Aang?
:wtf
http://i23.tinypic.com/adj58k.jpg
http://i20.tinypic.com/radhk4.jpg
I didn't even notice the resemblance until you posted lol, awesome x)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd219/Flarecast/aangnightmare-1.gif
Polygon: At the risk of taking a swing at the show, I think they might do anything they can to create that "touchy-feely" aspect for the show. Zuko might not help a lot, but just enough to defeat Ozai. Teamwork seems to be the general idea of the show, so I think they'll go about it like that.
Iroh is as awesome as you can get in this series, but the spotlight seems to be more set on Zuko, and I don't think he's capable of doing anything productive unless he returns to his uncle. Iroh going it alone just doesn't seem likely.
Pimp of Pimps
10-18-2007, 12:12 AM
I meant Azula killing her mom. :sag
Sci-Fi
10-18-2007, 12:34 AM
Anybody have the Avatar op/ed?
Seto Kaiba
10-18-2007, 12:46 AM
SPOILERS!!!
http://mediacontent.ytv.com/TV/ytv/MediaPlayer/AVATAR45.wmv
SPOILERS!!!
http://mediacontent.ytv.com/TV/ytv/MediaPlayer/AVATAR45.wmv
I had to rewatch that 5 times to make sure he didn't say "pregnant girlfriend". :sweatdrop
Lord Snow
10-18-2007, 01:01 AM
SPOILERS!!!
http://mediacontent.ytv.com/TV/ytv/MediaPlayer/AVATAR45.wmv
I am not surprised.smile-big
LIL_M0
10-18-2007, 01:50 AM
I didn't even notice the resemblance until you posted lol, awesome x)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd219/Flarecast/aangnightmare-1.gif
At first, I thought you weren't gonna do it, but you did, and for that you are just AWESOME!!!!!!! http://i22.tinypic.com/10mlu1h.gif
RacheT
10-18-2007, 02:03 AM
:awesome
I just thought it was pretty neat how much he looked like Nightmare. I wonder if they intentionally got the idea from it.
LIL_M0
10-18-2007, 02:09 AM
I think they did. That'd be just too much of a coincidence for them not to have.
*EDIT*
I just watched the spoiler clip. Lol @ Zuko, or any man for that matter, for fighting over a girl. Like that old saying goes: there's plenty of fish in the sea. :nod
Linkdarkside
10-18-2007, 10:17 AM
I think they did. That'd be just too much of a coincidence for them not to have.
*EDIT*
I just watched the spoiler clip. Lol @ Zuko, or any man for that matter, for fighting over a girl. Like that old saying goes: there's plenty of fish in the sea. :nodif he like/love her he should fight for her
Rofl @ Zuko, the world just hates him.
I would sh*t myself if he caught Mai and the dude doing the nasty later and making this face:
http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/208/948.jpg
or
http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/209/726.jpg
Superstarseven
10-18-2007, 01:11 PM
Pretty awesome of Zuko to do the one-inch punch(or shove) on that guy.
As for Azula, she is a firebending prodigy or in Naruto terms, a genius. So while very formidable at the age of 14 you'll notice that if she hadn't taken out Iroh, who was looking at Toph, at the end of The Chase she most definitely would have been beat.
Azula can be taken down as shown in The Crossroads Of Destinyand if Zuko hadn't intervened, Katara would have definitely won.
•Grimmjow•
10-18-2007, 01:23 PM
anybody watch the new episodes of avatar book 3 (episodes 1.2.3.4)
LIL_M0
10-18-2007, 01:25 PM
anybody watch the new episodes of avatar book 3 (episodes 1.2.3.4)
Well, since this IS the Avatar discussion thread "signs point to yes" :awesome
rockst☆r sin
10-18-2007, 01:26 PM
anybody watch the new episodes of avatar book 3 (episodes 1.2.3.4)
Nope, none of us did. Everything that's being mentioned is Book 2.
•Grimmjow•
10-18-2007, 04:15 PM
EVERYONE FOR THE LATEST EPISODES OF THE AVATAR GO ON www.theavatarportal.com
LIL_M0
10-18-2007, 04:37 PM
Man, the putafile links are gone!? :arg :arg :arg
Gunners
10-18-2007, 04:48 PM
He is a prince why did he take that guys smack talk?
It was funny to see him snap lol.
also nother preview:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Nyg-aT0tII
Nick owes me semen
LIL_M0
10-18-2007, 06:12 PM
also nother preview:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Nyg-aT0tII
Nick owes me semen
You want some dude name Nick to do what?! :omg
http://www.nos.nl/jeugdjournaal/images/nickelodeon_logo_204_tcm42-171484.jpg
Inanimate; genderless, fake. bright one :)
You know what I meant. Wait everything is always taken out of proportion :<
This calls for a http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/209/726.jpg
memento <.<
Robotkiller
10-18-2007, 06:26 PM
He is a prince why did he take that guys smack talk?
I'm guessing that they were posing as normal teenagers for a night on the town. Because I don't think even a teenage idiot would provoke the son of the Firelord and the killer of the avatar.
And I have to add--Damn!--Zuko owned that guy. It looks like he's really become a master of martial arts.
RacheT
10-18-2007, 08:02 PM
This calls for a http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/209/726.jpg
memento <.<
lol :hehee
This has such great potential, but my mind is drawing a blank.
Raiden
10-18-2007, 11:06 PM
Zuko overreacted in the preview. I can't wait until Friday so that we can all see the whole episode.
Mat®icha
10-19-2007, 10:30 AM
finally:woo i watched chapter 4. come on next episode:yell
So wait, I watched it on TiVo last episode but does Avatar come on on Friday or Saturday?
rockst☆r sin
10-19-2007, 11:58 AM
Avatar comes on every Friday at 8:30 pm est for me.
Shade
10-19-2007, 05:39 PM
The Beach is out on iTunes. Can a blessed soul upload it somewhere?
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Avatar's on! http://i22.tinypic.com/10mlu1h.gif
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:34 PM
Zuko nearly puked. :rofl
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:34 PM
AHHHHHHH GRANNY FANSERVICE!!!:arg :cry
Ty Lee :hearts
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:35 PM
AHHHHHHH GRANNY FANSERVICE!!!:arg :cry
You didn't think that was hawt, what's wrong with you? :huh
lmao lmao lmao
Kameil
10-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Ty Lee got some big ass titties....:P
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:37 PM
Azula went overboard.
You didn't think that was hawt?
Zuko's eyes were covered for a reason.
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:38 PM
Azula went overboard.
Gotta love that "Crush everything!!! I'm better than you!!!" attitude of hers. :amuse
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:39 PM
Azula went overboard.
She analyzes everything like a battle strategy. I thought it kinda cool.
Kameil
10-19-2007, 09:40 PM
She basically made the ball combust.....:lmao
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:42 PM
That guy just looked at the note and burned it. Sweet
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:43 PM
Tri-clops' hawk was bad ass
Azula is such a tactician. :awesome
"Hey there, sweet sugar cakes"
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:46 PM
This episode is Avatar's equivalent of Naruto episode 101.
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:47 PM
Yeah, straight "Earth Dominating" comedy. :lmao
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:47 PM
I feel sorry for the guy. Azula's just plain freaky
Though I like seeing this side of her. Nice to see how well they use her "psycho dominating bitch" attitude
This episode is Avatar's equivalent of Naruto episode 101.
Agreed. Too little Iroh.
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:48 PM
Zuko should've pulled rank on those fools. I bet they would've bitched out
*EDIT*
Agreed. Too little Iroh.
Iroh was too busy doing finger-tip push ups to think about fun in the sun. :awesome
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:51 PM
Zuko should've pulled rank on those fools. I bet they would've bitched out
*EDIT*
Iroh was too busy doing finger-tip push ups to think about fun in the sun. :awesome
No one's there to pull rank. Just lulz.
Firebending from the forehead? At least we know how he burned the note.
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:52 PM
Oh they're fucked now :LOS
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 09:54 PM
No one's there to pull rank. Just lulz.
I mean, he should've been like, "Bitch... I'm Prince Zuko" and done some wiked fire bending. :nod
Tylee... Oh cry me a freaking river. :pek
Zuko shouldv'e given them all 3rd degree burns for them grilling him like that.
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 09:59 PM
That's some serious angst.
They destroyed everything.:rofl
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Yeah but just destroy a guy's house and everything is good again
Kameil
10-19-2007, 10:01 PM
:lmao they took their anger out on the party
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Well, El'Tigre is on now. *turns off tv*
Well...that was a waste of 30 minutes.
RacheT
10-19-2007, 10:03 PM
Awesome episode lol. We didn't get a lot of action from Aang against the assassin, but the stuff we did get was great.
Gamma Akutabi
10-19-2007, 10:03 PM
At least now we got some insight into why the Azula & Co. act the way they do. Aside from the almost tearful confessions, it was a funny episode.
Edit: Why would Zuko burn the picture of his family? Does it tie into his anger?
RacheT
10-19-2007, 10:04 PM
At least now we got some insight into why the Azula & Co. iact the way they do. Aside from the almost tearful confessions, it was a funny episode.
I was waiting for Zuko to totally screw everything up and drop the "Avatar is alive" bomb.
At least now we got some insight into why the Azula & Co. iact the way they do. Aside from the almost tearful confessions, it was a funny episode.
Those were the only parts I laughed. :notrust
kakoishii
10-19-2007, 10:07 PM
unfortunately I missed the first 5 minutes, but on the plus side this is probably one of my favorite fillerish episodes they've aired thus far. I loved how they showed the real "high school-esque" Nature of Azula and the gang, it helps to remind us that despite the fact that Azula is evil and the rest of her group has issues they're still teenagers.
I thought they were turning each of the girls' personalities into a running joke until that bonfire scene. Then all I wanted was for Zuko to uppercut Ty Lee and Azula for being a couple of retards.
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 10:07 PM
Those were the only parts I laughed. :notrust
Yeah, it was mostly boring. I laughed at things that weren't supposed to be funny... Like the messenger hawk getting onened. :lmao
Apollo_alice
10-19-2007, 10:12 PM
I loved the Zuko tantrums. they always make me laugh.
I was kind of disappointed we didn't get to see more Iroh, but still a funny episode.
Piekage
10-19-2007, 10:16 PM
I liked the ep. Gives you some insight on the characters. Azula's "WE WILL RULE THE EARTH!!" scene was LoL. However, I find a lack of Sokka and Irou disturbing. And fucked up.
The Drunken Monkey
10-19-2007, 10:17 PM
I know, if Iroh is not in the episode, it is not pimping.
But this is an exception with Tai-Li(sp?). Pretty damn hotttttttttttt.
I'm getting tired of Zuko, starting to lose faith in him.
Pimp of Pimps
10-19-2007, 10:17 PM
This episode was meh. I was disappointed that we didn't get to see more Iroh.
Also, I've concluded that Zuko can only be cool (as cool as Zuko can be that is) when he's around Uncle.
I think we were supposed to sympathize with them. :lmao
didn't happen, except for maybe Ty li. Or however you spell her name
Protect_The_Butter
10-19-2007, 10:18 PM
Well I guess Azula is heterosexual. Other than that though, this episode sucked. They're trying to hard to humanize the villains.
So....then we're supposed to view these kids as soulless shells that are only around to fit to villain slots?
And wait. When the hell did Zuko go back to being a villain again?
Apollo_alice
10-19-2007, 10:22 PM
They're trying to hard to humanize the villains.
I felt that way too. If they did it over a longer period of time it might work better but for now they are supposed to think they are better than everyone else. Azula acting normal (well as normal as she can be) just seemed off. I loved her failing miserably and scaring the guy away.
Pimp of Pimps
10-19-2007, 10:25 PM
So....then we're supposed to view these kids as soulless shells that are only around to fit to villain slots?
Azula and the other girl are supposed to be pretty much emotionless and ruthless evil bitches. Tai Li is supposed to just be a cheerful girl that happens to be on the dark side. that's how I've seen it.
And wait. When the hell did Zuko go back to being a villain again?
Since he betrayed Iroh.
Raiden
10-19-2007, 10:26 PM
The episode wasn't half bad. It's about time we got to see some insight on these characters. I didn't know Azula was so desparate nor did I know that Zuko was so conflicted to the point where he can't control himself. I was kind of wishing that Mai and Zuko didn't get back together and that the story would lead to somewhere else. However, it's been set in stone....
rockst☆r sin
10-19-2007, 10:26 PM
Whoa did you see Ty Lee's body? Yeah she just became my favorite female character (she was up there already with Toph) and I wouldn't mind her being Sokka's love interest.
Azula and the other girl are supposed to be pretty much emotionless and ruthless evil bitches. Tai Li is supposed to just be a cheerful girl that happens to be on the dark side. that's how I've seen it.
Since he betrayed Iroh.
Ehhh.....I guess.
Azula really seems to be the only one who is actually evil. Ty Lee (or however the hell you spell her name) and Mai always seemed like were only really along for the ride. Ever since The Crossroads of Destiny they seemed like they'd eventually turn on Azula when she got too out of control. She's really the only one that is actually being written like a villain.
Zuko may be in the 'villain' group right now, but that's definitely not how his character is growing. I haven't considered Zuko a villain since the end of season one. He's more or less an anti-hero.
RacheT
10-19-2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah, it was mostly boring. I laughed at things that weren't supposed to be funny... Like the messenger hawk getting onened. :lmao
That's the only part I lol'd at, when you see the messenger hawk falling from like 200 feet in the air onto the ground cause it gets tied up. :lmao
Apollo_alice
10-19-2007, 10:37 PM
I agree that Zuko is more of an anti-hero, and i hope that he redeems himself at some point. As far as the girls are concerned, I really didn't like them, especially Azula at first but now i really do. They are such random friends, only brought together at first by class, but that stuck together despite huge personality differences.
C_Akutabi
10-19-2007, 10:38 PM
But this is an exception with Tai-Li(sp?). Pretty damn hotttttttttttt.
And she apparently has a bunch of sisters who look just like her :nuts
Protect_The_Butter
10-19-2007, 10:38 PM
So....then we're supposed to view these kids as soulless shells that are only around to fit to villain slots?
And wait. When the hell did Zuko go back to being a villain again?
It would be different if we knew all of them from the begining. But they made Mai and Azula into good, quality villains and they're throwing it all away in 1 season of sped up charecter development.
And Zuko well you know what I mean.
LIL_M0
10-19-2007, 10:38 PM
That's the only part I lol'd at, when you see the messenger hawk falling from like 200 feet in the air onto the ground cause it gets tied up. :lmao
I know! I've watched that scene like 6 times now, but it always brings the lulz. :lmao
The Drunken Monkey
10-19-2007, 10:41 PM
Anyone who betrays Iroh is a douche.
Pimp of Pimps
10-19-2007, 10:44 PM
Anyone who betrays Iroh is a douche.
This is so true it's not even funny.
Because Iroh is a fuckawesomewin old man with a big gray beard and bugling man muscles (though not testosterone sterois nasty muscles) and does one armed pull ups and polytroemic push ups and can fire bend and was a general and is supposed to be firelord and is humble ans is cool and all that shit.
RacheT
10-19-2007, 10:46 PM
This is so true it's not even funny.
Because Iroh is a fuckawesomewin old man with a big gray beard and bugling man muscles (though not testosterone sterois nasty muscles) and does one armed pull ups and polytroemic push ups and can fire bend and was a general and is supposed to be firelord and is humble ans is cool and all that shit.
The win episode comes when Iroh beats the shit out of Zuko and drags him back with him. :pek
Robotkiller
10-19-2007, 10:48 PM
I missed the new episode!
Damn you to hell, Halo 3. Damn you to hell:cry
Shade
10-19-2007, 10:50 PM
An upload would be nice.
Dimezanime20
10-19-2007, 10:53 PM
How could this episode not have won the hearts of many? I mean besides the fast make up and kissing, I think this episode was freaking funny! And then there was also the action! The first part with the group was freaking sweet animation! Azula cracked me up and was really sexy in this episode. How could you guys not have liked it? Plus we got to know more about Zuko, Azula, May, and Tai Li. Then there was the whole break up scene between Zuko and May which I know a lot of Zutara fans must've been rejoicing...only to be mindfucked again!lmao Now that was for the lulz.
Apollo_alice
10-19-2007, 10:54 PM
The win episode comes when Iroh beats the shit out of Zuko and drags him back with him. :pek
There will be at least a 10 minute non-stop squee when that happens. *sigh* I miss the Earth Kingdom arc.
HEATAQUA
10-19-2007, 10:55 PM
Great episode,Ty Lee is hot :D,I can't wait for next weeks episode
RacheT
10-19-2007, 10:57 PM
I missed the new episode!
Damn you to hell, Halo 3. Damn you to hell:cry
We are all very disappointed. :pek
There will be at least a 10 minute non-stop squee when that happens. *sigh* I miss the Earth Kingdom arc.
Earth Kingdom was a great arc, but I'm sure this season will be as good if not better. :nod
Apollo_alice
10-19-2007, 10:59 PM
True, I do love the new season. Especially the outfits. The fire nation seems to have the best fashion sense.
Dimezanime20
10-19-2007, 11:00 PM
We are all very disappointed. :pek
I'm not. The only thing disappointing was how short the ending was. I wanted to see more of the rampage. Though with this whole episode, it kinda makes me wonder if somewhere inside of her, Azula will now have some sympathy for Zuko? But then again she kinda gave her reasons for disliking Zuko so much (their mother's love).
RacheT
10-19-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm not. The only thing disappointing was how short the ending was. I wanted to see more of the rampage. Though with this whole episode, it kinda makes me wonder if somewhere inside of her, Azula will now have some sympathy for Zuko? But then again she kinda gave her reasons for disliking Zuko so much (their mother's love).
lol, I meant, we were disappointed that he chose Halo over Avatar. Ah, my sense of humor seems to be undetectable. The episode itself was great.
Ema Skye
10-19-2007, 11:04 PM
The episode was good but I didn't expect it to be so angsty. All the same it was funny.
How could this episode not have won the hearts of many? I mean besides the fast make up and kissing, I think this episode was freaking funny! And then there was also the action! The first part with the group was freaking sweet animation! Azula cracked me up and was really sexy in this episode. How could you guys not have liked it? Plus we got to know more about Zuko, Azula, May, and Tai Li. Then there was the whole break up scene between Zuko and May which I know a lot of Zutara fans must've been rejoicing...only to be mindfucked again!lmao Now that was for the lulz.
I think it's because Zuko annoys me, and the rest of the fire nation kids are meh. So I got no fan service because I don't care about any of those characters. :wink
Dimezanime20
10-19-2007, 11:24 PM
lol, I meant, we were disappointed that he chose Halo over Avatar. Ah, my sense of humor seems to be undetectable. The episode itself was great.
Oh I see.:P
Robotkiller
10-20-2007, 01:22 AM
It's not that I chose Halo over avatar...I was just so enthralled that I forgot about it.
In anycase I managed to watch it a few hours ago. Good episode overall, liked the explanation and character development on the part of the bad guys (I'm not even sure I can call them that anymore) and the fanservice was adorable enough I suppose.
Oh, and one more thing
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/rparkinson/1192397101926.jpg
Combustion man. FUCK YEAH!
NU-KazeKage
10-20-2007, 01:37 AM
where is the new episode online
Morwain
10-20-2007, 01:38 AM
Gah what happened in the last few minuted my dvr cut them off!? Please tell me or give a clip if possible...I need to know.
The rest of the episode was funny though Azula Zuko and the gangs victory on the beach was amazingly fun to watch as well as many Azula lines in the episode such as "My own mother thought I was a monster...She was right, of course, but, it still hurt." or something along those lines I don't like Azula but, this episode made her seen less hateable.
Seto Kaiba
10-20-2007, 01:45 AM
Ty Lee got some big ass titties....:P
Yeah...first thing I noticed about her on this episode.
Whoa did you see Ty Lee's body? Yeah she just became my favorite female character (she was up there already with Toph) and I wouldn't mind her being Sokka's love interest.
Ty Lee was just hot, plain and simple. Azula looked hot too, especially with her hair down, Mai was...well, let's just say Azula and Ty Lee totally overshadowed her.
I had always thought, or at least hoped that Ty Lee will be among the first to have a change of heart and become an ally of the Gaang. She seems genuinely good, just on the wrong side.
Also, yeah, I wouldn't mind Ty Lee ending up with Sokka at all. They do seem to be mutually attracted to each other. Though, the issue of Suki may be a snag. Which brings up a question, is Suki dead or not? Does Sokka know? If so, has he come to terms with it? He doesn't seem to think much about her for someone he claims to be involved with.
Pimp of Pimps
10-20-2007, 01:47 AM
Ty Lee is the hottest out of the three. Azula is hot to I guess, but she has that evil look to her.
Dimezanime20
10-20-2007, 01:48 AM
Also, what's wrong in showing that the villains have their own stories too? Like do people expect villains to just be there to be defeated without no dreams or determination (or past)? I mean in Avatar Zuko and co. are humans too just like Aang and co.
Apollo_alice
10-20-2007, 01:51 AM
That Dr. Evil-Zuko picture almost made me spit my soda out onto my keyboard!
Pimp of Pimps
10-20-2007, 01:52 AM
Also, what's wrong in showing that the villains have their own stories too? Like do people expect villains to just be there to be defeated without no dreams or determination (or past)? I mean in Avatar Zuko and co. are humans too just like Aang and co.
Yeah, but I don't think they handled it well in this episode. The part at the end where they all kinda opened up was good, but Azula wasn't handled well this episode imo. It just didn't seem like her at all. At least with the other three it did seem like them.
Seto Kaiba
10-20-2007, 01:53 AM
Also, what's wrong in showing that the villains have their own stories too? Like do people expect villains to just be there to be defeated without no dreams or determination (or past)? I mean in Avatar Zuko and co. are humans too just like Aang and co.
It's just weird seeing Azula like that...you know? I had always saw her as this constantly conniving power-hungry sociopath. Not someone who thinks about boys...it seemed so OOC for her.
Pimp of Pimps
10-20-2007, 01:55 AM
This episode didn't excite me, but it wasn't bad. It's just that I'm not really into these type of mushy things. My main problem with the episode was Azula.
also how the hell does eye man work? Is it some kind of firebending or is he gifteeeeeed?
kewlmyc
10-20-2007, 02:04 AM
It's just weird seeing Azula like that...you know? I had always saw her as this constantly conniving power-hungry sociopath. Not someone who thinks about boys...it seemed so OOC for her.
Everyone gets lonely.:oh
Seto Kaiba
10-20-2007, 02:08 AM
Everyone gets lonely.:oh
Ok...it's that up until now, Azula has just been portrayed as some driven sociopath, not someone whom I would see as particularly emotional. She never showed any indication of loneliness, desire for the opposite gender or desire for social interaction up until now.
Do you mean lonely? Or do you mean lonely?
Dimezanime20
10-20-2007, 02:35 AM
It's just weird seeing Azula like that...you know? I had always saw her as this constantly conniving power-hungry sociopath. Not someone who thinks about boys...it seemed so OOC for her.
She's a girl. A teenage girl. Not only that but it seems her surrounding "friends" all had partners. Like she said, she was jealous. She's human. Something like that is beneath her, reasons why she whispered. The scene after she kissed that boy still proves that her power-hungry characteristic still exist (even during the volleyball game), just in a comedy sense. She's not some crazy bitter old lady. Sooner or later she's going to want to find someone anyhow if she plans on her dominance leading on to the next generation. Also, the reason why it's so different for you guys is that the other episodes were introductions of the Fire nation co. and how they mix in with the storyline. There wasn't much time to go into details about the past of each as they did with this episode. With most loose ends tied up due to Book 2, I'm guessing the creators found this season to be the right time. It's not that Azula doesn't really have such emotions, just that we never got the chance to know her deeply. Her character before and still to today is a front for intimidation and respect (and power). Everyone has a side that others don't know (like how half of NF are pedophiles).
Chris
10-20-2007, 04:18 AM
Can someone PM me the latest episode on a direct dl. On the MegaUpload mirror? Will rep. :nod
Nikudan Hari Sensha
10-20-2007, 04:21 AM
Was there a 'next time on avatar' on this ep or what?
About the ep: I liked how the writer made the audience like the 4 of them and then still showed that they were still pretty messed up in the end.
LIL_M0
10-20-2007, 04:37 AM
Can someone PM me the latest episode on a direct dl. On the MegaUpload mirror? Will rep. :nod
PM? The internet is for open sharing. :awesome
I'll post it here once the torrent is done
Was there a 'next time on avatar' on this ep or what?
About the ep: I liked how the writer made the audience like the 4 of them and then still showed that they were still pretty messed up in the end.
I didn't see one. Maybe it's posted on youtube.
Chris
10-20-2007, 06:12 AM
PM? The internet is for open sharing. :awesome
I'll post it here once the torrent is done
Many thanks. :awesome
rockst☆r sin
10-20-2007, 10:15 AM
You know what was the funniest part. When Azula and that dude kissed and after that she created flames and said let's plan the world's domination. Did you see the guy face after she did that lol.
LIL_M0
10-20-2007, 10:22 AM
Somebody hurry up and download this... s03e05 :awesome
http://rapidshare.com/files/63827827/ava3o5.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/63829179/ava3o5.part2.rar
@lk3mizt
10-20-2007, 10:37 AM
*await's LIL_MO's MU links :awesome
LIL_M0
10-20-2007, 10:40 AM
*await's LIL_MO's MU links :awesome
*@lk3mizt will be waiting for hours... :LOS
@lk3mizt
10-20-2007, 10:43 AM
no fair! :scry
LIL_M0
10-20-2007, 10:51 AM
Hey man, these things take time.
*EDIT*
Lil' Mo has achieved Jonin status. He shall commemorate this moment by speaking in the third person... :del
You know what was the funniest part. When Azula and that dude kissed and after that she created flames and said let's plan the world's domination. Did you see the guy face after she did that lol.
I chuckled...surprisingly. :notrust
Why didn't they show any previews for the next episode...? Does that mean it's going to be epic. Like....too epic to preview?! :drool
Lord Snow
10-20-2007, 11:25 AM
The description for next weeks episode:
With the tale of Roku and Sozin, Aang and Zuko each gain insight into their predecessors' intertwined pasts.
Source:http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/the-avatar-and-the-fire-lord/episode/1046068/summary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;5
Thank Koh-sama for DVR
I liked this ep a lot. Time spent on the antagonist to show their own problems and reasons for what they do and are was a great punch. Azula still ominous in her own little confession, showed to us this entire ep that she's still human. A teenage girl in fact, and does go through the stuff normal people do.
Even though brief Sokka bits, the entire Beach interaction made up for in comedy-wise.
Ty Lee's cleavage had me gawking all night. But I'm still very impressed with hair-down Azula; gotta love that conflicting "WE CAN RULE AND DOMINATE ANYTHING IN OUR PATH" nature with the Ty Lee advice. And the Zuko fangirls.
Did anyone notice that music-less portion to the Combustion Man fight scene? That was some depth sh*t right there! Even his bird hauls ass!
-EDIT-
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7ZC0SX9I
The description for next weeks episode:
Source:http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/the-avatar-and-the-fire-lord/episode/1046068/summary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;5
Sounds like the makings of the best episode this season.
Dimezanime20
10-20-2007, 12:10 PM
Did anyone notice that music-less portion to the Combustion Man fight scene? That was some depth sh*t right there! Even his bird hauls ass!
Yea, that part was freaking crazy! See, you don't need action music all the time!
Yea, that part was freaking crazy! See, you don't need action music all the time!
Was that Aang's slow-motion airbending the fire away in mid air...? If so that was epic.
Linkdarkside
10-20-2007, 12:32 PM
it would suck to be the guy that house got destroyed
that assasing guy look awesome and his hawk own too
Nizuma Eiji
10-20-2007, 02:04 PM
Hmm i know that DR Movie is considered the bad studio when it comes to Avatar but i thought the animation was excellent in this episode. Especially when the Gaang encountered Combustion Man, i loved that very brief fight. IMO the whole episodes animation was great. I dont really see why people complain about DR Movie.
Beach, best episode to date. :nod It's just so...so... very nostalgic and reminiscence. ^^ And Nick trying to set an example I see. :wink
The Drunken Monkey
10-20-2007, 03:10 PM
I want a commercial for the next episode...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0SM6EIBH
305 avatar
i know it's a little late but i noticed the only thing avaiable was rapidshare
I want a commercial for the next episode...
I'll give you one better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWeJYwIH-Zw
It was a preview YTV released looooong ago
Apollo_alice
10-20-2007, 04:23 PM
\zol: I had never seen that before! I'm glad to see more Roku! I always wish we knew more about him.
I'll give you one better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWeJYwIH-Zw
It was a preview YTV released looooong ago
Thanks for the link \zol:amuse Ruko is awesome:awesome
The Question
10-20-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm glad we'll be learning more about Roku. It should be an awesome episode.
The Drunken Monkey
10-20-2007, 07:42 PM
Yes, that was better. Repsss
Dimezanime20
10-20-2007, 08:39 PM
Hmm i know that DR Movie is considered the bad studio when it comes to Avatar but i thought the animation was excellent in this episode. Especially when the Gaang encountered Combustion Man, i loved that very brief fight. IMO the whole episodes animation was great. I dont really see why people complain about DR Movie.
There's more than one studio doing Avatar? Wow, I didn't know that. And if they're the worst, then that's just crazy!
Nizuma Eiji
10-20-2007, 09:51 PM
Yeah some you can tell the difference once you learn theres more than 1 studio doing Avatar. 1 is JM Animation & the other is DR MOVIE(who also involved with BLEACH). On DistantHorizon(an Avatar forum) most people consider DR MOVIE the bad studio. So far in Book 3 DR MOVIE has animated: The Awakening, The Painted Lady, & The Beach. JM Animation did The Headband, & Sokka's Master.
Dimezanime20
10-20-2007, 11:33 PM
On DistantHorizon(an Avatar forum) most people consider DR MOVIE the bad studio. So far in Book 3 DR MOVIE has animated: The Awakening, The Painted Lady, & The Beach.
Are they fucking serious? That's bad animation?
Seto Kaiba
10-20-2007, 11:40 PM
Yeah some you can tell the difference once you learn theres more than 1 studio doing Avatar. 1 is JM Animation & the other is DR MOVIE(who also involved with BLEACH). On DistantHorizon(an Avatar forum) most people consider DR MOVIE the bad studio. So far in Book 3 DR MOVIE has animated: The Awakening, The Painted Lady, & The Beach. JM Animation did The Headband, & Sokka's Master.
I always thought the animation in Avatar was consistently good. If they consider that bad animation, then I hate to see what they think of Shippuden...
Superstarseven
10-20-2007, 11:42 PM
Actually for this season DR Movie has been replaced by a new studio called MOI Animation.
So now it's between them and JM Animation doing the episodes.
It's not necessarily that DR Movie animated them badly but rather the complaints were directed towards the character designs. If you notice the characters look different from one episode to the next.
According to their wiki page, Dr Movie have worked on
Bleach (as mentioned previously)
Shippuuden (for those looking for a direct link between Naruto and Avatar, here it is)
Death Note
Ghost In The Shell
Hellsing
Blood+ among others.
Moi Animation have worked on
Teen Titans
Justice League Unlimited
Sonic X
The Batman among others.
Oh yeah, check these new screenshots out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0004.jpg
I like that last picture, Aang looks like someone out of an Anime.
nehnehneji
10-21-2007, 12:03 AM
Took me a while to find this thread, thought it would be in "Konoha TV - Channel 12"... Looking forward to Monday since Book 3 is airing in the UK! Not sure how I feel about Aang with hair yet...
Nizuma Eiji
10-21-2007, 12:18 AM
Well thats a damn shame. I mean sure the character designs were different, but they still looked damn good. I mean it was noticeable but i didnt give a damn. I enjoyed their character designs.
Seto Kaiba
10-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Actually for this season DR Movie has been replaced by a new studio called MOI Animation.
So now it's between them and JM Animation doing the episodes.
It's not necessarily that DR Movie animated them badly but rather the complaints were directed towards the character designs. If you notice the characters look different from one episode to the next.
According to their wiki page, Dr Movie have worked on
Bleach (as mentioned previously)
Shippuuden (for those looking for a direct link between Naruto and Avatar, here it is)
Death Note
Ghost In The Shell
Hellsing
Blood+ among others.
Moi Animation have worked on
Teen Titans
Justice League Unlimited
Sonic X
The Batman among others.
Oh yeah, check these new screenshots out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0004.jpg
I like that last picture, Aang looks like someone out of an Anime.
Awesome. He looks older in those.
Nizuma Eiji
10-21-2007, 12:26 AM
^^He has somewhat of a Bruce Lee look in the last pic.
Shade
10-21-2007, 12:55 AM
Is it from a coming episode? His hair is longer now. I really want him to not cut it.
I knew his ears were always a little funky...but damn, wth. I blame da ears!
Dimezanime20
10-21-2007, 01:15 AM
I never really noticed it. From season 1 to season 3 it always seemed the same to me (the animation).
Nah, can definitely tell... Season 1 were a bit more...fluidly in animation and character design.
Season 3 now seems different. I don't know how to really describe it...a bit rough maybe?
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 01:33 AM
Some people are saying it's impossible for Iroh to get buff so fast. They're wrong.
And some people believe he got buff in one day. :lmao
He doesn't have black people's hair anymore. :huh
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 01:41 AM
Maybe Aang can bend his hair.
I wish I saved those glorious buffed Iroh pics and macros from 4chan on that day. Tch...
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 01:47 AM
I wish I saved those glorious buffed Iroh pics and macros from 4chan on that day. Tch...
I wish you did. :D:
I know! Argh, so hating myself now. >< They really had some wicked image macro on buffed Iroh. Anonymous always thinks of the best stuff. :nod
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 01:54 AM
As soon as I get a good enough stock (not sceenshots) I'm gonna get an Iroh sig.
Also, how long has it been since the season finale? Katara said Aang's been out for a few weeks so I'm assuming a little over a month?
Some people are saying it's impossible for Iroh to get buff so fast. They're wrong.
And some people believe he got buff in one day. :lmao
Wait wait. You mean I'm supposed to believe that he hasn't been on that routine since he first got locked up?
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 02:02 AM
Wait wait. You mean I'm supposed to believe that he hasn't been on that routine since he first got locked up?
Obviously he started trainging shorty after he got locked up. But some people think he only trained for the day of Sokkas training and suddenly got buff.
Some people also think a person can't get buff so fast (by that I mean a few weeks), which is more understandable even though they're wrong.
As soon as I get a good enough stock (not sceenshots) I'm gonna get an Iroh sig.
Also, how long has it been since the season finale? Katara said Aang's been out for a few weeks so I'm assuming a little over a month?
Yeah, probably more or less a month now, as of current episode. That or they're still in the 3rd or 4th week of the first month...
Bah, I need look it up to be sure. ><
RacheT
10-21-2007, 02:19 AM
Oh yeah, check these new screenshots out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0004.jpg
I like that last picture, Aang looks like someone out of an Anime.
Looks like a few weeks have passed by from the last episode. His hair is longer, which imo looks a lot better than before.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 02:23 AM
Oh yeah, check these new screenshots out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mazzaroo/AvatarUktrailer_0004.jpg
Oh noes! Aang, what have they done to you?! :cry
I never really noticed it. From season 1 to season 3 it always seemed the same to me (the animation).
I thought so as well. Then again, I don't go over animiation with a fine-tooth comb like most of the NF users... who can't even draw
Some people are saying it's impossible for Iroh to get buff so fast. They're wrong.
And some people believe he got buff in one day. :lmao
They are called "morons" :nod
He doesn't have black people's hair anymore. :huh
The fuck? :pek
Wait wait. You mean I'm supposed to believe that he hasn't been on that routine since he first got locked up?
http://www.white-angelz.de/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Obviously he started trainging shorty after he got locked up. But some people think he only trained for the day of Sokkas training and suddenly got buff.
Some people also think a person can't get buff so fast (by that I mean a few weeks), which is more understandable even though they're wrong.
It's possible depending on the frequency and intensity of the physical training sessions and caloric intake. Around the 10 week of training is were most people begin to really notice a change in appearance. I've been a certified personal trainer since 2003 by the way.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 02:47 AM
It's possible depending on the frequency and intensity of the physical training sessions and caloric intake. Around the 10 week of training is were most people begin to really notice a change in appearance. I've been a certified personal trainer since 2003 by the way.
Exactly. Actually, if you train hard enough and eat good then you'll see changes in the first few weeks. Lazy guys can be whipped into good shape in a few weeks in the army, because they make a habit of it everyday.
Iroh is obviously training hard and he's getting back what he once had. It's not like he's a 20 stickboy who's trying to become bruce lee.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:00 AM
Exactly. Actually, if you train hard enough and eat good then you'll see changes in the first few weeks. Lazy guys can be whipped into good shape in a few weeks in the army, because they make a habit of it everyday.
Iroh is obviously training hard and he's getting back what he once had. It's not like he's a 20 stickboy who's trying to become bruce lee.
Yeah, you can become physically fit in a few weeks (strength, stamina/ endurance), but you won't be buff. Also, I know what it takes to "whip lazy guys into shape", I served in the Marine Corps for 8 years. :nod
It's a lot easier for a "stickboy" to look buff, the initial shock of the body adjusting to training look better than the results of a fat guy doing the same amount of training. Bruce Lee wasn't a very big guy either by the way. In Iroh's case, he already had a muscular foundation. He just needed to lower his bodyfat percentage.
RacheT
10-21-2007, 03:02 AM
It's possible depending on the frequency and intensity of the physical training sessions and caloric intake. Around the 10 week of training is were most people begin to really notice a change in appearance. I've been a certified personal trainer since 2003 by the way.
I would think doing intense training with bread and rice wouldn't give you the results that Iroh's achieved, especially since he's already pretty far up there in age, but meh :LOS
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:03 AM
I would think doing intense training with bread and rice wouldn't give you the results that Iroh's achieved, especially since he's already pretty far up there in age, but meh :LOS
I posted this a few minutes before... "In Iroh's case, he already had a muscular foundation. He just needed to lower his bodyfat percentage."
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:07 AM
Yeah, you can become physically fit in a few weeks (strength, stamina/ endurance), but you won't be buff. Also, I know what it takes to "whip lazy guys into shape", I served in the Marine Corps for 8 years. :nod
Yeah, it won't get you buff buff, but you will get into shape if you already aren't.
It's a lot easier for a "stickboy" to look buff, the initial shock of the body adjusting to training look better than the results of a fat guy doing the same amount of training. Bruce Lee wasn't a very big guy either by the way. In Iroh's case, he already had a muscular foundation. He just needed to lower his bodyfat percentage.
I was just using Bruce Lee as an example. It just comes out of you mouth when talking about anything related to fighting for some reason. Wasn't he actually pretty light for such a strong uy?
And yeah, Iroh already had muscle. He's just readgusting to his old life (that of a general) in a sense.
also a question. since muscle weighs more than fat and a lot of Iroh's exes fat is not there anymore, wouldn't he weigh more than he used to?
RacheT
10-21-2007, 03:07 AM
I posted this a few minutes before... "In Iroh's case, he already had a muscular foundation. He just needed to lower his bodyfat percentage."
I guess I missed your post :P You do have a point, though. Iroh must be pushing 60 though, so it's still amazing he could get to such a low body fat percentile at his age in a short amount of time (probably 6 weeks if I had to guess)
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:11 AM
Well, aside from the fact that it's a TV show I think people that old shouldn't have any real problem getting back into shape as long as they have the time and put in the effort. Not counting injuries and whatnot. I could be wrong though.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:18 AM
Yeah, it won't get you buff buff, but you will get into shape if you already aren't.
I was just using Bruce Lee as an example. It just comes out of you mouth when talking about anything related to fighting for some reason. Wasn't he actually pretty light for such a strong uy?
And yeah, Iroh already had muscle. He's just readgusting to his old life (that of a general) in a sense.
also a question. since muscle weighs more than fat and a lot of Iroh's exes fat is not there anymore, wouldn't he weigh more than he used to?
Yeah, Bruce Lee was "light in the ass" lmao but he was a scrapper and cut like a tree trunk.
Yeah, he could possibly weigh 5 to 8 pounds more (guess-timated).
*tangent: I hate training women, because they think that they're "getting fat" when I tell them that they have gained weight. Sometimes they end up quitting. Whatever dude, it's your money.
I guess I missed your post :P You do have a point, though. Iroh must be pushing 60 though, so it's still amazing he could get to such a low body fat percentile at his age in a short amount of time (probably 6 weeks if I had to guess)
They have this thing called "The Masters" bodybuilding competition. It's for guys 45 and up. I was helping one of my fraternity brothers get in shape for it. Granted, he's a retired US Marine, he's pretty old. I think 52 (53?).
Well, aside from the fact that it's a TV show I think people that old shouldn't have any real problem getting back into shape as long as they have the time and put in the effort. Not counting injuries and whatnot. I could be wrong though.
Bottom line: Most people are just plain lazy.
RacheT
10-21-2007, 03:21 AM
Well, aside from the fact that it's a TV show
:pek
I think people that old shouldn't have any real problem getting back into shape as long as they have the time and put in the effort. Not counting injuries and whatnot. I could be wrong though.
Well, metabolic speed would greatly be nerfed at that age. I'm not saying it's impossible, just saying it's pretty amazing he was able to shed it all within 6 weeks. :LOS
They have this thing called "The Masters" bodybuilding competition. It's for guys 45 and up. I was helping one of my fraternity brothers get in shape for it. Granted, he's a retired US Marine, he's pretty old. I think 52 (53?).
I'm not talking so much as muscle depth, just more of the body fat.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:26 AM
:pek
Well, metabolic speed would greatly be nerfed at that age. I'm not saying it's impossible, just saying it's pretty amazing he was able to shed it all within 6 weeks. :LOS
I'm not talking so much as muscle depth, just more of the body fat.
I forgot to add that he had a season 1/2 Iroh belly. :awesome
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:26 AM
Bottom line: Most people are just plain lazy.
Exactly. :iria
Also, this may be off-topic, but any tips on gaining muscle mass? I'm 6 foot and weigh like 130 lbs (underweight i'm sure). I consider myself in shape but I need more muscle mass. The thing is, I've got no real access to weight or gym, at least not now. so should I just do thing like push ups, door pull ups, lifting random things etc?
:pek
Well, metabolic speed would greatly be nerfed at that age. I'm not saying it's impossible, just saying it's pretty amazing he was able to shed it all within 6 weeks. :LOS
:LOS
Yeah, but 6 weeks is a lot of time. Most people are lazy, don't care or don't have the time. Iroh is in a jail cell 24/7 and it looks like he spends all his time training/sleeping. The only problem I see is the nutrition.
RacheT
10-21-2007, 03:28 AM
I forgot to add that he had a season 1/2 Iroh belly. :awesome
:lmao okay. Again, I'm not surprised he could get back into shape (Iroh), I just thought it was surprising the amount of time it took him, especially on a deprived diet.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:31 AM
What the hell is that white paste they feed him anyway?
I think Iroh has stored nutrients in his belly for such an occasion. :LOS
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:31 AM
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I know how you feel, I feel that way sometimes to. It's okay, let out your emotions. Go wild.
:iria
I think someone wants to up their post count.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:38 AM
Exactly. :iria
Also, this may be off-topic, but any tips on gaining muscle mass? I'm 6 foot and weigh like 130 lbs (underweight i'm sure). I consider myself in shape but I need more muscle mass. The thing is, I've got no real access to weight or gym, at least not now. so should I just do thing like push ups, door pull ups, lifting random things etc?
:LOS
Yeah, but 6 weeks is a lot of time. Most people are lazy, don't care or don't have the time. Iroh is in a jail cell 24/7 and it looks like he spends all his time training/sleeping. The only problem I see is the nutrition.
Do you have access to 10 bucks a week? Got to the store and get some cans of tuna. They only run about 25 cents a can. The key to weight gain is protein.
Proteins give you muscles
Muscles give you women
Women give you secks...
Secks gives them proteins. :lmao
Also, I don't know your monetary situation, but I got the Bowflex dial-up dumbells and a cheap-o adjustable weight bench. You don't really need a gym If you have the "know how". If you want to know more just pm. I don't want to totally derail the thread.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:44 AM
Thank M0. :polygon
Also, in an attempt to get on-topic. anyone know what the hell the eye guy is? His explosions could be a form of firebending, but I don't know.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:46 AM
I don't know. I call him "Tri-clops", wouldn't it be a trip if he was really Kuzon?
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:47 AM
Kuzon.....?
Refresh my memory. :sag
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:49 AM
Kuzon.....?
Refresh my memory. :sag
Aangs Fire Nation friend from a hundred years ago. You know, the name he used in school? Kuzon. :awesome
MightGai
10-21-2007, 03:51 AM
Combustion Man FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must be the only dude here who think Mai is hot when she told Azula to STFU. I'm so lonely, like Ty Lee but Mai I like better for overall realness.
Zuko so needs to get some Sokka lessons on macking girls.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:52 AM
Aangs Fire Nation friend from a hundred years ago. You know, the name he used in school? Kuzon. :awesome
Oh. :LOS
I doubt it since he doesn't look a hundred, but who knows.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 03:54 AM
Combustion Man FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must be the only dude here who think Mai is hot when she told Azula to STFU. I'm so lonely, like Ty Lee but Mai I like better for overall realness.
Zuko so needs to get some Sokka lessons on macking girls.
http://www.white-angelz.de/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
............
Oh. :LOS
I doubt it since he doesn't look a hundred, but who knows.
I mean, weirder things have happened.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 03:57 AM
Mai isn't hot. :D:
I guess she's pretty, as in not ugly but that's about it. It's her attitude that makes her not hot really.
Azula is one of those super evil hot chicks. Like you'd hit it but you're scared she'll rip your penis off for the fun of it.
Ty Lee is the only one I'd actually bang.
Random Member
10-21-2007, 03:59 AM
Managed to catch up on some eps I missed.
Does that prison guard get paid extra to talk smack to Iroh? Everytime he walks in: "Blah blah, useless whore!". It made me feel sorry for Iroh until I saw the old man was just acting.
I can't wait for Iroh to break out and crush that guard's skull :LOS
RacheT
10-21-2007, 04:01 AM
Oh. :LOS
I doubt it since he doesn't look a hundred, but who knows.
The guy seems to have had some alterations to his body, so I suppose it's possible he's stopped aging. One way or another I'm sure his friend will play a part in the story though, or else he wouldn't have been mentioned.
"Eye-guy" is probably using firebending. I can't really think of any other way he would be able to burn a hole through a piece of paper if it was anything else. It's different from the usual types of firebending we've seen though. His attacks are a lot more explosive :P Bending seems to be used for many different types of uses though, so being able to create long-ranged explosives from firebending isn't that out of the ordinary. The only thing that makes it strange is that he's somehow able to shoot it out of his forehead. :sag
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 04:02 AM
I always imagined Iroh would bust out of his cage, and he'd be in shadow and you'd see his eyes kinda glow and he'll be like "Tell my brother I'm coming, to take what's rightfully mine" :iroh
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 04:03 AM
Managed to catch up on some eps I missed.
Does that prison guard get paid extra to talk smack to Iroh? Everytime he walks in: "Blah blah, useless whore!". It made me feel sorry for Iroh until I saw the old man was just acting.
I can't wait for Iroh to break out and crush that guard's skull :LOS
I think the guard might have served under Iroh while he was a general. He didn't like him but couldn't talk smack because he would have been disciplined, but since Iro is branded a traitor and is imprisoned he gets to say what he couldn't way back when.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 04:06 AM
@ RacheT: Makes sense.
I think the guard might have served under Iroh while he was a general. He didn't like him but couldn't talk smack because he would have been disciplined, but since Iro is branded a traitor and is imprisoned he gets to say what he couldn't way back when.
From how the guard was talking to him, I think he may have sort of admired him. He obviously thinks Iroh was a great man before.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 04:07 AM
The guy seems to have had some alterations to his body, so I suppose it's possible he's stopped aging. One way or another I'm sure his friend will play a part in the story though, or else he wouldn't have been mentioned.
"Eye-guy" is probably using firebending. I can't really think of any other way he would be able to burn a hole through a piece of paper if it was anything else. It's different from the usual types of firebending we've seen though. His attacks are a lot more explosive :P Bending seems to be used for many different types of uses though, so being able to create long-ranged explosives from firebending isn't that out of the ordinary. The only thing that makes it strange is that he's somehow able to shoot it out of his forehead. :sag
I don't know why, but I read that and thought "forehead bending" :lmao
I always imagined Iroh would bust out of his cage, and he'd be in shadow and you'd see his eyes kinda glow and he'll be like "Tell my brother I'm coming, to take what's rightfully mine" :iroh
That made me think of Trigun. When Vash was about to kill that guy. :awesome
*EDIT*
@ RacheT: Makes sense.
From how the guard was talking to him, I think he may have sort of admired him. He obviously thinks Iroh was a great man before.
I have visited my former military superiors in the brig(military prison) before, but i never threw their food on the floor...
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 04:15 AM
I have visited my former military superiors in the brig(military prison) before, but i never threw their food on the floor...
That's cause you're a respectable guy. Also, remember the prison guard pretty much thinks Iroh has lost it. He has no idea Iroh is training himself and is probably better than ever.
RacheT
10-21-2007, 04:17 AM
I don't know why, but I read that and thought "forehead bending" :lmao
Step aside Aang, the real Avatar is here. :awesome
I have visited my former military superiors in the brig(military prison) before, but i never threw their food on the floor...
I don't think he ever admired Iroh, just thought he was a waste. He use to be one of the strongest (loyal) firebenders, and threw it all away. He'll probably be used for a plot device later on though, so they're making him hate us intensely so we all laugh when Iroh curbstomps him. :iria
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 04:19 AM
Maybe admired is the wrong word, but I don't think he ever hated Iroh. Judging from what he said, he used to think Iroh as a great man. Now h's just disgusted that such a great man has sunken so low.
MightGai
10-21-2007, 04:20 AM
Whats wrong with Mai's attitude, it's like Zuko's.
A negative plus a negative equals a positive. LOL.
Nizuma Eiji
10-21-2007, 04:21 AM
lol wtf yall?? Thats combustion man, & he's very much a firebender.
Pimp of Pimps
10-21-2007, 04:22 AM
Whats wrong with Mai's attitude, it's like Zuko's.
A negative plus a negative equals a positive. LOL.
Mai's additude is nothing Like Zuko's. Zuko is usually a little aggressive, he just is more so now because he's so angry at himself.
LIL_M0
10-21-2007, 04:28 AM
That's cause you're a respectable guy. Also, remember the prison guard pretty much thinks Iroh has lost it. He has no idea Iroh is training himself and is probably better than ever.
Yeah, loyalty is one of my good qualities. :del
Step aside Aang, the real Avatar is here. :awesome
LMAO!
I don't think he ever admired Iroh, just thought he was a waste. He use to be one of the strongest (loyal) firebenders, and threw it all away. He'll probably be used for a plot device later on though, so they're making him hate us intensely so we all laugh when Iroh curbstomps him. :iria
Maybe admired is the wrong word, but I don't think he ever hated Iroh. Judging from what he said, he used to think Iroh as a great man. Now h's just disgusted that such a great man has sunken so low. These two posts have me thinking... What if he actually did admire him turns out to be Iroh's sidekick (for lack of a better term). Like if he peeps in the cell and see him training and is a all like "The dragon of the West has returned?!" :wtf
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