Football is a better sport than soccer

[Killa Cam]

Just thought I'd state that again because some people seem to think different. I don't know what is wrong with them.

[Last of the Uchihas]

lol, screw you.

Like i said to you on your other insighful thread.

Soccer > football.

Soccer is not the most popular sport in the world for nothing, unless of course you want to tell me the US =World.

http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/What_are_the_top_10_most_popular_sports_in_the_wor ld_based_on_number_of_fans

[Killa Cam]

Soccer is the most popular sport because anyone can pick up on it. That's why it's loved in 3rd world countries. All you need is one rock and four cans. They can't play football because you actually need strenght play it it. I mean they probably don't play that many contact sports all over the world due to not being able to afford health services. Football is far more advanced than soccer in terms of strategy and teamwork.

[Last of the Uchihas]

You only need to use steroid and you can play footbal like a pro.

Even my grandma can play it.

[Jonas]

It's a matter of opinion. But soccer owns football. I mean, what's up with that shit.
Invented by americans for americans. No wonder you like it more.

[Killa Cam]

You only need to used steroid and you can play footbal.

Even my grandma can play it.
The NFL doesn't have a steroid problem. Besides big musles alone won't make you a good player. Like I said before any body can go out and play soccer. It's very simplistic.

[XxShinzouxX]

Soccer is not simplistic. Just like most other sports, it has its own stragedies, and honestly, not anyone can go right out there, and play like a pro, just like in football.

Its stupid to state that american football is better than football (soccer), because its an opinion, not a statement, unless everyone in the world said it truely was better.

In my opinion though, I think american football sucks

[illusion]

LMAO, this thread is highly amusing! :laugh

Anyways, in my opinion, Killa Cam is right! American football > any sport, including soccer. :P

[Leen]

Soccer pwns all. Soccer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else.

[earthshine]

fuck soccer, football makes soccer look like polo(except the crazy ass soccer fans who riot after a game and kill people. they can kick any sports ass)

[illusion]

fuck soccer, football makes soccer look like polo(except the crazy ass soccer fans who riot after a game and kill people. they can kick any sports ass)

LMAO, hell yeah! Soccer fans > any other sports fan, including American football. :P

[XxShinzouxX]

I just dont like football simply because of the crowd and the craze surrounding it. Nor do I love and watch soccer, im not a fan at all. But I still find soccer more entertaining if I do watch it, rather than NFL

[hakke]

oh, are we in the mood for retarded topics?
ok, Im next...


Waterpolo is way better than Swimming.

In swimming... you just swim... while waterpolo is more complex!

Discuss.

[Killa Cam]

The truth... (http://www.soccersucks.net/)

[XxShinzouxX]

Waterpolo roxors your boxers, and if you say otherwise, then you just suxors

But really, sports to your liking is opinionated, many will say american football is the best sport, and others say Soccer is, but what matters is :: Will there be a Mardi Gras next year?

Yep, problem solved.

[Jonas]

Football sucks like any other retared american sport (except basketball). Look at baseball wtf.

[illusion]

Football sucks like any other retared american sport (except basketball). Look at baseball wtf.

Look who's talking, I've got one word for you.........Cricket! :S

[Shogun]

killer cam is just mad that black players don't dominate soccer

[Jonas]

Look who's talking, I've got one word for you.........Cricket! :S
Im gonna pull a Copinator on yall:

"It is not fotball that the World praises"

"Soccer >> Football at the age of.. well any age"

"Soccer > Basketball > Football"

The Americans sucks at soccer and that's the only reason they can't accept it as a good sport.

l
Soccer is not the most popular sport in the world for nothing, unless of course you want to tell me the US =World.

This one owns:
http://www.torfnet.com/pictures/tnt/world_according_to_america.jpg

[Killa Cam]

killer cam is just mad that black players don't dominate soccer
I don't even watch soccer to know if that's true or not. The reason America doesn't dominate soccer is pretty much no one cares about it here. It's like our 6-9th sport over here. All the talent go on to better sports.

[illusion]

Im gonna pull a Copinator on yall:

"It is not fotball that the World praises"

"Soccer >> Football at the age of.. well any age"

"Soccer > Basketball > Football"

The Americans sucks at soccer and that's the only reason they can't accept it as a good sport.

You may be right, but I just can't get into the game! They try showing it on ESPN sometimes and I try to sit there and watch it, but it's soo friggin' boring! First the ball goes over there, then the ball goes back over here, then the goalie gets ahold of it and sends the ball back over there! When I finally woke up the final score was 1-0. :sad

Another reason I don't like soccer is because everytime another player touches another player, they flop on the ground like the guy just tried to tackle him. I'm like, the guy barely touched you, this happens the entire game. :S

[Shogun]

in your opinion, and as stated eslewhere in this thread soccer is the world's most popular sport, that shows your opinion's worth.

[Killa Cam]

in your opinion, and as stated eslewhere in this thread soccer is the world's most popular sport, that shows your opinion's worth.
"1.It appeals to collectivism. Most of the world has collectivist governments, and many people throughout the world seek to group themselves based on nationality and race. Hence, once the "World" Cup comes around, jackbooted fans seek to wrap themselves around the flag. Thus, we see soccer's popularity in collectivist Europe and unpopular in North America. Soccer is the world's most popular "sport?" First, soccer is not a sport, it is an activity. Second, who cares? Twenty years ago, communism was the most popular form of government. The Nazis received a plurality of the vote in 1933. And they all were wrong. Is the rationale for being a soccer fan due to what some other idiot opines?"

[Shogun]

well, it's not like you could come up with a thought like that, so why use it?

[TGC]

I played both sports at school, I must say though I had more fun playing soccer, Football was so damn boring to play, it sucked, i was a receiver, made a couple of touchdowns but damn it was boring, in soccer I was much more active, I scored a load of goals hence soccer owns fooball(why football shouldn't it be called handball???: w/e) any day of the week. Soccer is much more fun, football is cool but it doesn't compare to soccer.

[Jonas]

illusion: that's the rule of the game or else everybody would've played ugly game.
I think football is more enjoying because americans like seeing raw tackles and many scores. maybe.

[Killa Cam]

well, it's not like you could come up with a thought like that, so why use it?
Why did I use it? Cause it spoke truth. I mean it aint that hard to argue that just because something is popular doesn't make it better. I did give reasons why non of them being because it's a better sport. If we go off popularity that would make 50 Cent the best musical artist out right now.

[9th]

First off, "footbal"l really cant compete agaisnt soccer, because Soccer is the #1 sport in the world. Why it isnt so popualr in US, well because they ain't that good. Dammit their "football" leauge sucks (my bad folks, but the truth has to come out one day or another) as well, anyway about the whole black thing..? WTF? Eto' is a great player. We got more, just look at france, holland, UK, yes even black ppl in south america are great, african ppl came to south america as slaves as well...so if jordan is black then so are robinho and ronaldinho and YES PELE!!!

anyway, soccer eats football as desert for breakfast.

I really never say football, its called American Football...and soccer is called Football.

[Killa Cam]

Again people soccer is like our 6th to 9th sport over here. We don't dominate because people don't give a fuck about it. Did you know soccer is the most played youth sport in America? So explain to me why when the kids grow up the move to better sports? These soccer moms sign up their children so they can play in a sport where there isn't that great of a chance to be hurt.

[illusion]

illusion: that's the rule of the game or else everybody would've played ugly game.
I think football is more enjoying because americans like seeing raw tackles and many scores. maybe.

I agree, there's alot more scoring in American football and at a faster pace, but like genious captain stated, it's probably more fun to play soccer. You're always on the move and the ball can get to you in a hurry, so you feel more into the game.

Although, it depends what position you play in American football, I played both ways at running back and linebacker, so I never got bored. :amuse

[hakke]

Again people soccer is like our 6th to 9th sport over here. We don't dominate because people don't give a fuck about it. Did you know soccer is the most played youth sport in America? So explain to me why when the kids grow up the move to better sports? These soccer moms sign up their children so they can play in a sport where there isn't that great of a chance to be hurt.

you answered yourself there... they move to other sports because of other's opinions saying american football is a better sport... why would they keep playing something no one gives a shit about in USA?

[Jonas]

I agree, there's alot more scoring in American football and at a faster pace, but like genious captain, it's probably more fun to play soccer. You're always on the move and the ball can get to you in a hurry, so you feel more into the game.

Although, it depends what position you play in American football, I played both ways at running back and linebacker, so I never got bored. :amuse
Yes , agreed. And about the sport to play it itself it seems fun. Also seeing it is fun. But saying that it's better than soccer is just another oppinion and the threadstarter can't really expect something to come out from this thread.

[Mukuro]

Simplicity of Futbol (Soccer) makes it so beautiful. You could play a game of Futbol anywhere on land.

In any park. In the street. On the road.

All you need is a ball and a group of people, and right away you can play.

A true sport that brings people together and is really competitive.

There is a lot of contact in Futbol and like most team sports it relies highly on teamwork.

It requires a lot of skill (moving with a ball at your feet).

It is a solid game that's not all about scoring goals.

In Futbol, you can play in any position and be happy. Because every position is vital.

Why do you think Futbol is a worldwide sport.

Shit someone just signed on with the screenname "i wanna play football*" (* English Football, which you call Soccer! Beat that!).

[Lucifer]

I agree with Itachi Amaterasu...

fuck-off, Football >>> American Football...

The truth... (http://www.soccersucks.net/)
deleted him, it's a pr0n site...

[illusion]

I agree with Itachi Amaterasu...

fuck-off Football >>> American Football...

Hmmm, never heard of fuck-off football and are you sure it's better than American football? :P

[L.O.]

soccer rocks!
you need just a ball and some friends to play it.
it's a game for everyone, because it's simple.
btw: how many girls play ameerican football?

[Mukuro]

I agree with Itachi Amaterasu...

fuck-off, Football >>> American Football...


deleted him, it's a pr0n site...
Yea, it definitley is porn.

soccer rocks!
you need just a ball and some friends to play it.
it's a game for everyone, because it's simple.
btw: how many girls play ameerican football?
I wouldn't mind knowing a rough figure of this either.

[Cesc Fabregas]

people have some respect.....................ITS CALLED FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER!!!!!!!!!

1/ the world cup is the biggest sporting event in the world.
2/ apart from america how many people ACTUALLY know the rules for NFL??
3/ football is the most played sport in the world
4/ you dont have to be rich to play football, pele, maradonna,ronaldo...........
5/ football reuires just a ball, no need for padding which would take FOREVER to put on
6/ ARSENAL ARE THE KINGS, UNITED SUCK, CHELSKI ARE ARRPGANT FOOLS WHO THINK MONEY WILL BUY THEM LOVE!!!!!

[Mukuro]

people have some respect.....................ITS CALLED FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER!!!!!!!!!

1/ the world cup is the biggest sporting event in the world.
2/ apart from america how many people ACTUALLY know the rules for NFL??
3/ football is the most played sport in the world
4/ you dont have to be rich to play football, pele, maradonna,ronaldo...........
5/ football reuires just a ball, no need for padding which would take FOREVER to put on
6/ ARSENAL ARE THE KINGS, UNITED SUCK, CHELSKI ARE ARRPGANT FOOLS WHO THINK MONEY WILL BUY THEM LOVE!!!!!
Hehehe... Man Utd got knocked out of Champions League, finishing bottom of their group... What a shame.

Gunner for Life :tem!

[Jikoo]

The fact that you call that sport of yours football just shows how dumb it is. Most of the time you run around with the ball in your frikkin hands...

And we have a version of your so called football, it's called rugby. If american football is so tough, why are players so padded up it would make a medievil knight envious?

[M00se]

Yup go running around in that crack ass protection shit play a mans sport run around in shorts and try to dodge people running at you :) in american football your lucky to get hurt :P

Euro football 1-0 US football

[Hangatýr]

American football is for wussies, rugby FTW.

[Last of the Uchihas]

Im gonna pull a Copinator on yall:

"It is not fotball that the World praises"

"Soccer >> Football at the age of.. well any age"

"Soccer > Basketball > Football"

The Americans sucks at soccer and that's the only reason they can't accept it as a good sport.


This one owns:
http://www.torfnet.com/pictures/tnt/world_according_to_america.jpg


lol, that is priceless.:laugh

killer cam is just mad that black players don't dominate soccer


:rofl

[M00se]

American football is for wussies, rugby FTW.

Rugby is a mans sport :D rugby owns american football anyday :)

screw the pads just use shorts and a shirt :D

[Killa Cam]

Yup go running around in that crack ass protection shit play a mans sport run around in shorts and try to dodge people running at you :) in american football your lucky to get hurt :P

Euro football 1-0 US football
I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Injuries happen all the time in football. Even with pads people still get injured. Professional football is a game of speed. Rugby guys couldn't handle it. I mean if they are so tough why don't they go to the NFL and try to bank on it.
http://x10.putfile.com/10/28819564083.gif

[Last of the Uchihas]

What did we learn, Football > American Football.

Hell, why does American call their sport Football in the first place?

Is not like they use the ball on their feet, like real Football.

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Injuries happen all the time in football. Even with pads people still get injured. Professional football is a game of speed. Rugby guys couldn't handle it. I mean if they are so tough why don't they go to the NFL and try to bank on it.
http://x10.putfile.com/10/28819564083.gif


You got to be kidding me, even my 3 year old nephew that take that hit, and get up as noting had ever happen.

[Mukuro]

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Injuries happen all the time in football. Even with pads people still get injured. Professional football is a game of speed. Rugby guys couldn't handle it. I mean if they are so tough why don't they go to the NFL and try to bank on it.
http://x10.putfile.com/10/28819564083.gif
That's not professional. That's amateur. He didn't even get the ball!

That's definitley foul play with intent.

[Killa Cam]

What did we learn, Football > American Football.

Hell, why does American call their sport Football in the first place?

Is not like they use the ball on their feet, like real Football.
We named it that to make all you guys :mad. Plus the game starts with the feet.

[Keramachi]

Just thought I'd state that again because some people seem to think different. I don't know what is wrong with them.This isn't funny anymore. It wasn't even funny to begin with.

[Killa Cam]

You got to be kidding me, even my 3 year old nephew that take that hit, and get up as noting had ever happen.
Get out of here with that shit. Maybe it looks soft to you because it's in slow motion. I guarantee you couldn't take that and get up right after.

I'm not sure that was a foul play without seeing the whole thing.

[Shishou]

Only cocksucks like Soccer.

Its boring to watch, and boring to play. It involves homosexuals in short shorts using their legs cause they don't want to break a nail.



Its true. Trust me.

[Niabingi]

Soccer... ahem real football kills "american" football anyday... aerican football is in my opinion rugby for pussies! C'mon who needs padding

Real football is popular the world round as 1. yes its easy to play and get into doesnt require much in the way of equipment and 2. there are many positions that require different styles of play and whole different sets of skills its a flexible sport and very much a team game... plus its passion enducing

[Woofie]

Like I said before any body can go out and play soccer. It's very simplistic.
Soccer's simplicity is its greatest asset... the main problem with American football is that it's basic rules are so complex that matches have no flow whatsoever. It's constant stop-start-stop-start, making it impossible to get into and enjoy. :)

(The complexity doesn't mean any more skill is involved, either.)

Soccer ftw!

[metronomy]

You don't play soccer with your socks, and you don't tend to use your foot(s) in American football either, what's going on there; hey.

It's all about water polo anyway.

[Mukuro]

Only cocksucks like Soccer.

Its boring to watch, and boring to play. It involves homosexuals in short shorts using their legs cause they don't want to break a nail.



Its true. Trust me.
Oh... American footballers wear gloves... Wait... Why is this?

[Cesc Fabregas]

Only cocksucks like Soccer.

Its boring to watch, and boring to play. It involves homosexuals in short shorts using their legs cause they don't want to break a nail.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh

so men all padded up, and dressed in spandex/tight nylon all huddling together aint in any way homosexual??!

[Killa Cam]

Oh... American footballers wear gloves... Wait... Why is this?
Gloves are usually worn to give better grip to catch balls. There are times when they do wear gloves due to coldness. The ball also becomes very hard when it's cold.

[metronomy]

The ball also becomes very hard when it's cold.
Huh, that's the opposite to me, Oh wait... That Ball.

[less]

Actually, In the last World Cup I was impressed by the American football team (proper football, not rugby with body armour). They weren't great, sure, but they were pretty good and played a very dynamic, entertaining game. Pretty much all white, though. If African Americans played football, the US would be a world contender, which would rock, since there are too few of those nowadays.

[Mukuro]

Actually, In the last World Cup I was impressed by the American football team (proper football, not rugby with body armour). They weren't great, sure, but they were pretty good and played a very dynamic, entertaining game. Pretty much all white, though. If African Americans played football, the US would be a world contender, which would rock, since there are too few of those nowadays.
Yea I noticed this too.

It's a shame the US doesn't seize it's vast pool of potentially world class footballers.

I doubt that half the people know even about the basics of football.

[Niabingi]

yeah sorry to say but the american football team eats poo generally they shocked me last world cup by not being awful!

[Mukuro]

yeah sorry to say but the american football team eats poo generally they shocked me last world cup by not being awful!
Lol... You know, I expected the worst, but I was damned surprised when they reached the 1/4 finals.

I swear I still can't believe it. It was that Landon Donovan who got me!

[less]

yeah sorry to say but the american football team eats poo generally they shocked me last world cup by not being awful!
So the world cup thing was a freak occurence? Like Greece in the European Championship?

[Mukuro]

So the world cup thing was a freak occurence? Like Greece in the European Championship?
Lol... What's going on with the Greek national team these days?

That Euro 2004 Win was just too absurd for me! I still don't get why they won!

[Meijin]

Soccer is like Mr. T while Football is like David Hasselhoff. Soccer just pities the fool.

[less]

They won through a very efficient (some would say to point of being cynical) coach, physically strong players and a splash of luck.

[Lucifer]

Hmmm, never heard of fuck-off football and are you sure it's better than American football? :P
yeah, called it Fuck-off football >>> American Football....

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5832/futbol0xm.jpg

[Tiesto422]

Playing these sports are all fun. But when it comes to actually watching these sports is where theres a difference. Soccer just doesn't have enough scoring or contact to be a legimate sport to watch. Look at the NHL for example. They knew they needed to increase scoring to boost ratings, and hell, they score about twice as much as soccer already in a smaller time frame. Hockey and American Football are the best sports to watch because of high contact, balanced scoring, and speed (stoppages allow football players to sprint full out every play and hockey is even faster). Hockey has the edge in speed, but its still not better than american football, and heres why. American football rivals basketball in its ability to make dramatic come from behind finishes. Its hard to come back in hockey or soccer and even baseball. The fact that you can score more than 1 point at a time makes Basketball and American Football more exciting for sure.

[krescentwolf]

Soccer is the most popular sport because anyone can pick up on it. That's why it's loved in 3rd world countries. All you need is one rock and four cans. They can't play football because you actually need strenght play it it. I mean they probably don't play that many contact sports all over the world due to not being able to afford health services. Football is far more advanced than soccer in terms of strategy and teamwork.

I'd definitly say soccers a contact sport....a hardcore contact sport....
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/6786/own3d16er.jpg
:laugh

[Tiesto422]

"I'd definitly say soccers a contact sport....a hardcore contact sport...."

About as physical as basketball. You do what they do in the NFL in soccer and people wouldnt just be injured, theyd be dead.

[Mukuro]

They won through a very efficient (some would say to point of being cynical) coach, physically strong players and a splash of luck.
You mean a waterfall of luck. Lol.

Nothing can match the fulfilment one can get from scoring a free kick in football. Nothing.

[Shogun]

Soccer is the most popular sport because anyone can pick up on it. That's why it's loved in 3rd world countries. All you need is one rock and four cans. They can't play football because you actually need strenght play it it. I mean they probably don't play that many contact sports all over the world due to not being able to afford health services. Football is far more advanced than soccer in terms of strategy and teamwork.
advanced...well, all i can say to that is football has a lot of tactics, that are thought up by coaches who are mostly white, every instruction is passed onto black players because they need it, soccer is about creativity. Football players on the other hand don't have such thoughts and can only operate like robots, eat and run at other people, that is why black people are so good at football they don't have to think

[jkingler]

Hell, why does American call their sport Football in the first place?
Why is rugby called rugby?
Why is cricket called cricket?
Why is tennis called tennis?

I think football is called as such since parents wouldn't sign their kids up to play collisionball.
Is not like they use the ball on their feet, like real Football.
They do. But that's the kicker. Those guys are boring, just like soccer.

[less]

Playing these sports are all fun. But when it comes to actually watching these sports is where theres a difference. Soccer just doesn't have enough scoring or contact to be a legimate sport to watch. Look at the NHL for example. They knew they needed to increase scoring to boost ratings, and hell, they score about twice as much as soccer already in a smaller time frame. Hockey and American Football are the best sports to watch because of high contact, balanced scoring, and speed (stoppages allow football players to sprint full out every play and hockey is even faster).
Conversly, I'd like to argue that the high scoring rate in American football makes for repetive watching. Start, crash, clutch ball, fall down, repeat. Every once in a while you get those wonderful runs and tackles, but on the whole I find it rather boring. Same as handball.

The value of a goal in football (or soccer, if you insist), on the other hand, is higher than in any other sport I know of. The simplicity of the rules also makes for great room for improvisation and innovation on the part of the players (the brazillian who spontanously invented the bicicleta kick is said to have had the goal keeper he scored on clapping and laughing). First and foremost, the value of a goal makes almost any football match dangerous. A great team can lose to a bad one on account of one brilliant moment from a sole player.

[Tiesto422]

It doesn't matter what you guys think

speed, lead changes/scoring, and contact are what makes sports fun to watch. and guess what, you get creamed in all 3

[jkingler]

Maybe soccer would be interesting if they had sticks and beat each other, like in hockey. Soccer is pretty fun to play, but to watch it...:faint

P.S. I don't even like hockey, but watching it isn't too bad.

[less]

It doesn't matter what you guys think

speed, lead changes/scoring, and contact are what makes sports fun to watch. and guess what, you get creamed in all 3
By that logic, Shufflepuck is the best sport ever.
EDIT: Except for the contact thing...:imslow

[Tiesto422]

Goals in soccer are valuable because when you have the lead its easier to retain it, by just playing d. Conversely, this is the total opposite in basketball and american football because if you play just for defense, the other team has a high opportunity to score. This is the main reason why Hockey, despite being superior in every other facet is still inferior to american football.

"Shufflepuck is the best sport ever."

never heard of it.

[hakke]

em... is that really a valid excuse? its not fun to watch?

Because... sports I dont like, no matter how many points they score, I dont like playing or watching. Its the same thing here. If you guys dont like futbol.. of course you dont like to watch it either.

[9th]

advanced...well, all i can say to that is football has a lot of tactics, that are thought up by coaches who are mostly white, every instruction is passed onto black players because they need it, soccer is about creativity. Football players on the other hand don't have such thoughts and can only operate like robots, eat and run at other people, that is why black people are so good at football they don't have to think
NOW REALLY, WTF??? What exactly do you mean with all that, AHA lemme guess...youre a lazio fan? Is soccer a none-black-sport? :blink

Ahem.... ok man, no more cake(yes that kind of cake) for you.

[less]

Goals in soccer are valuable because when you have the lead its easier to retain it, by just playing d. Conversely, this is the total opposite in basketball and american football because if you play just for defense, the other team has a high opportunity to score. This is the main reason why Hockey, despite being superior in every other facet is still inferior to american football.

Excactly, but this also leads to fact that in football, the underdogs often win. Underdogs winning = drama. Drama = fun. Single players who in a flash of inspiration turns a game around in 15 seconds, that's what sports is all about.

P.S. I thought I saw your bar change. Are people actually neg-repping you over this?

@hakke: edit: never mind, misread your post.

@EDIT2: My five hundredth post was arguing the merits of football:blink

[Shogun]

yeah 9th i know some of the best players are black, just trying to piss off killacam, jeeze

[jkingler]

em... is that really a valid excuse? its not fun to watch?

Because... sports I dont like, no matter how many points they score, I dont like playing or watching. Its the same thing here. If you guys dont like futbol.. of course you dont like to watch it either.

Playing a sport and watching a sport aren't the same thing at all.

-I like to drive fast, but Nascar is boooooorrrrring.
-I hate ice-skating, but watching Hockey players try to kill each other and score every once in a while is awesome.
-Playing soccer is fun, especially when you don't know the rules, but to watch it makes the Mexican baby Jesus cry.
I can't stand playing basketball, because I am not tall enough to dunk and I suck at 3s, and yet watching Basketball is exhilarating.

I think the one example I can think of that would substantiate your point is golf. I hate watching AND playing golf. Except mini-golf. Mini-golf is wicked fun.

[Tiesto422]

The american football equivalent to that is called the turnover. Turnovers are far more important that any other statistic in football to win a game. Turnovers are usually caused by a gross error thats capitalized on by the opposing team. Thus, a bad team can beat a good one if the good one makes a few mistakes. There hasnt been an undefeated team in the NFL in 30+ years and they only play 14(30 years ago) to a max total of 19 games a season.

[Killa Cam]

advanced...well, all i can say to that is football has a lot of tactics, that are thought up by coaches who are mostly white, every instruction is passed onto black players because they need it, soccer is about creativity. Football players on the other hand don't have such thoughts and can only operate like robots, eat and run at other people, that is why black people are so good at football they don't have to think
Umm..... what did they do when football was predominantly white? Did they just zap the plays and formations into the players heads?

[jkingler]

Umm..... what did they do when football was predominantly white? Did they just zap the plays and formations into the players heads?
That, and they all sucked. Kind of like when basketball was all white. :-/

/booooooooorrrrring

[Shogun]

the answer is simple: they had more creative input which eventually meant that they were phased out of the game, free spirit and ideas don't go well with maniacal coaches

[Negative-Ion]

Goals in soccer are valuable because when you have the lead its easier to retain it, by just playing d. Conversely, this is the total opposite in basketball and american football because if you play just for defense, the other team has a high opportunity to score. This is the main reason why Hockey, despite being superior in every other facet is still inferior to american football.

"Shufflepuck is the best sport ever."

never heard of it.

you probably have never played soccer. its not as easy to DEFEND all the time as your theory makes it to be. Soccer players run constantly, they pass the ball so many times, football players run for a short period of time. Football games can be won or lost because of 2players. In soccer, one player can not take the ball from one side to the other side and score a goal on his own. Soccer needs more teamwork, its a team game. Soccer players need to be more in shape too, have you ever seen a fat soccer player? shit the dudes run up and down nonstop for 90min.

[Tiesto422]

Best football player of all time? Joe Montana. Race? White

[less]

Most the worlds best black soccer players are from Brazil, France, England, Portugal, Spain. Or Nigeria. Not American, anyway.

EDIT: @ neg-ion: Underrating the teamwork in American football is way off the mark. If anything, soccer is more egocentrical.

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

Boxing owns all of you.

If you don't agree, take it up with the man in my signature.

[Shogun]

i tried but i didn't get a response, time to take it up with a lapdancer

[Killa Cam]

Boxing owns all of you.

If you don't agree, take it up with the man in my signature.
When's the last time boxing has been relevant though?

[Chamcham Trigger]

lol hook line and sinker again :rofl
Well all I can say is it's a matter of opinion.

[Scared Link]

Football will kill American Football. By the way Football is soccer.

[Tiesto422]

"you probably have never played soccer. its not as easy to DEFEND all the time as your theory makes it to be."

yes I have, and I know its far tougher to come back in a goaltending sport (HOCKEY, LACROSSE, SOCCER) that only awards one point per score.

"Soccer players need to be more in shape too, have you ever seen a fat soccer player? shit the dudes run up and down nonstop for 90min."

whered this come from? this isnt even on topic. DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE BEST SPORT TO WATCH EVER CAUSE THEY ARE IN TEH BEST SHAPE. idiot.

[hakke]

Playing a sport and watching a sport aren't the same thing at all.

-I like to drive fast, but Nascar is boooooorrrrring.
-I hate ice-skating, but watching Hockey players try to kill each other and score every once in a while is awesome.
-Playing soccer is fun, especially when you don't know the rules, but to watch it makes the Mexican baby Jesus cry.
I can't stand playing basketball, because I am not tall enough to dunk and I suck at 3s, and yet watching Basketball is exhilarating.

I think the one example I can think of that would substantiate your point is golf. I hate watching AND playing golf. Except mini-golf. Mini-golf is wicked fun.

You got my point even when I didnt expressed my idea correctly.

Im posted that because some were posting "its not fun to watch" as a reason why futbol would be less a sport. I agree with your examples that show that playing and watching can be a completely different experience.

[Niabingi]

Best football player of all time? Joe Montana. Race? White


most would say mardonna (argentina) or pele (brazil).. though i think that there are many others but these are the two most common responses...

[jkingler]

Best football player of all time? Joe Montana. Race? White
You are retarded, sir.

Joe Montana's 9ers were one of the greatest teams of all time. Most of their great players? RB, WR (Jerry Rice), CB (Merton Hanks), O-line, etc--just about all of them were black. Without that core of players Montana would have been cracked more often than Steve Young--who was a better quarterback than Montana.

Not that white players are necessarily better than blacks or vice versa (even though black players are usually better), but Joe Montana was spoiled rotten. Put Montana on the Broncos, back before Elway had a great team (yet still went to Superbowls). What would you get? A lot of losses. Put Elway on the 9ers from their Montana years. What would you get? Even more Superbowl rings.

[Tiesto422]

"Underrating the teamwork in American football is way off the mark. If anything, soccer is more egocentrical."

Definitely, if there was ever a sport where players depended on one another more ive never heard of it. Every time you get into an arguement over whos the best player of some position in football, the arguement always includes who he had to play with.

[Shogun]

Tiesto, if you think running is the best sport then shut your virtual pie hole.

[Tiesto422]

I was being sarcastic. idiot.

"Put Elway on the 9ers from their Montana years. What would you get? Even more Superbowl rings."

In a few more years that debate will be null, considering the pace Brady is on.

Guess what? All white players.

[Negative-Ion]

"you probably have never played soccer. its not as easy to DEFEND all the time as your theory makes it to be."

yes I have, and I know its far tougher to come back in a goaltending sport (HOCKEY, LACROSSE, SOCCER) that only awards one point per score.

"Soccer players need to be more in shape too, have you ever seen a fat soccer player? shit the dudes run up and down nonstop for 90min."

whered this come from? this isnt even on topic. DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE BEST SPORT TO WATCH EVER CAUSE THEY ARE IN TEH BEST SHAPE. idiot.

^^This kid is dumb, we are talking about soccer and football and which game is more physical and which game is more demanding. i guess you missed this point, stupid, never fucking call me names if i havent called you names before. I just responded to your reply, do you call idiots everyone that stomps on your replies? fucking dumb fool. STFU

[jkingler]

Are you talking to me, or the guy who negged ya? Either way, Young and Elway own Montana. Montana was a "finesse player," which means he is lucky he had a good O-line.

[Tiesto422]

Which sport is more physically demanding than that? Distance running. Is distance running fun to watch? no.

[Shogun]

Tiesto, your attempt at sarcasm was quite hard to gather from that post since it was phrased in such a retarded way. Don't start calling names round here dick face.

[jkingler]

Umm, I would say that football is more demanding, actually. It demands that you get tackled so often that you either get injured, die, or get lucky and retire of your own volition.

[Tiesto422]

"Umm, I would say that football is more demanding, actually. It demands that you get tackled so often that you either get injured, die, or get lucky and retire of your own volition."

I was directing towards being in shape (physically demanding), its an impossible point to argue because they are two totally different things.

[jkingler]

I demand that you stop posting.

And actually neither sport is more demanding--it's a matter of opinion. Soccer is more demanding in terms of cardiovascular fitness, sure. But put some of those lithe soccer players in the gym and tell them to bench press a mack truck. I am sure they would agree that football training is pretty demanding.

[Tiesto422]

"I demand that you stop posting."

why, my arguements are coherent and well articulated.

"And actually neither sport is more demanding--it's a matter of opinion."

which is what I said a post before you

[Lucifer]

http://neovox.cortland.edu/stadium/stadium_04/stadium_04.html =_=

[Shogun]

"Umm, I would say that football is more demanding, actually. It demands that you get tackled so often that you either get injured, die, or get lucky and retire of your own volition."

I was directing towards being in shape (physically demanding), its an impossible point to argue because they are two totally different things.
I spot a spelling mistake. So much for being articulate.

[Dark Flame Comander Ninja]

i like american football better...darn principal does'nt let us play american football anymore because THE DARN STUPID CHILDREN ALWAYS GOT IN OUR WAY AND JUMPED ON US EVEN AFTER WE TOLD THEM THEY CAN'T PLAY WITH US BECAUSE THEY WOULD GET INJURED AND AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!THEY STILL GOT IN THE WAY AND GOT A TOOTH BROKEN!!!NOT OUR FAULT!THEYR THE IMBECILS THAT GOT IN THE WAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!STUPID MORONS!LEARN FOR ONCE TO STOP DISOBEYING THE OLDERS!!!STUPID MINORS!!!sry bout that...too pissed off...those fuckn minors are such party poopers...anyway i still made tree touchdowns i'd say its total luck cause they just could not catch me and it was the best players vs us and yeah baby! i was too fast but my best friend still caught me,lol in the second touchdown i made he jumped on me and caught me but i escaped before getting fully caught,its kinda difficult to explain...he jumped on me and got me but before he got me i found a way to escape and he was able to grab my arm,lol hell of a day that was...it was fun until the minors got in the way and the principal cancelled football...football is the only sport i play with effort...wow this has been a longer post than i was expecting to post oh well...

[jkingler]

my arguements are coherent and well articulated.
I'm glad someone thinks so.

I was directing towards being in shape (physically demanding),
I know. Obviously you are thinking too hard, or else you would have gotten the joke. It's just like one of those Magic Eye pictures--relax and remove your head from your rectum.

And besides, like I said before, you forgot to take weight training into account. Sure, most football players would be worn out if they had to play a soccer game against professionals, but soccer players wouldn't be able to compete in a game of football, either. And while the aerobic capacity of your average soccer player is greater than that of your average football player, the average strength and power (yes, these are quantifiable) of your average football player is much greater than that of your average soccer player.
its an impossible point to argue
No, it's not an impossible point to argue. It's possible to argue about just about anything.

You didn't argue an undeniable point--you claimed that the most cardio intensive sport, or rather, as you put it, the sport where the players are in the best shape, is obviously the most demanding sport.

Valuing one atheltic ability above all others is ridiculous, since different abilities are required of athletes who play different sports. Football players are in better shape for football. Soccer players are in better shape for soccer.

[CABLE]

Once again Cam, you are 100% right.

[Tiesto422]

run that through a spell checker and tell me what is spelled wrong

[Shogun]

it should be: it's a demanding sport. Not its. Duh.

[jkingler]

run that through a spell checker and tell me what is spelled wrong
Don't depend on spell-checkers. They are faulty, just like your arguments. :P

[Tiesto422]

"Valuing one atheltic ability above all others is ridiculous, since different abilities are required of athletes who play different sports.
"

Both are quantifiable but are they comparable? I don't think so, which is why the argument is pointless.

[Tiesto422]

" demand that you stop posting.

And actually neither sport is more demanding--it's a matter of opinion. Soccer is more demanding in terms of cardiovascular fitness, sure. But put some of those lithe soccer players in the gym and tell them to bench press a mack truck. I am sure they would agree that football training is pretty demanding.
"

I never brought this up in the first place. WTH is your problem?

[Shogun]

Look Tiesto or testictle whoever the hell you are, just say: i think (either football or soccer) is better then (football or soccer) and then move on.

[CrazyMoronX]

I'll leave it pretty dry and simple, they both suck.

[CABLE]

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/6685/untitled9fz.jpg

[Nemesis]

Boxing owns all of you.

If you don't agree, take it up with the man in my signature.

I did, I think I won though but i can't remember anything for like 2 days after i saw his fist comming at me at high speed.

But on topic i'm not gonna get into a slagging match but i do Prefer Real football over american football mostly for its free flowing action and little stoppages which with American Football its one play and stop. Now somepeople may prefer that its upto them.

Although i do think that American football is rugby for wimps cause i watch all 3 of them (Rugby being divided into 2 sports of League and Union). The tackles especially in Rugby Union are alot harder than you find in american football and things like scrums and rucks (when someone gets tackled upto 10 players on both sides can literally stand ontop of the poor guy to get the ball on their side) can be extremely dangerous and yet no one in rugby wears body armour at all and only a couple wear head protection (yet no where near like the helmets in American football).

Oh about that soccer sucks site i would like to give an answer to one of their things they say suck about it to anyone here that may be confused.

The "World" Cup is not the a World's Cup, but a competition among 32 countries, disproportionately allotted to European countries.

Actually WRONG. The World cup actually officially starts with the Qualifyers where every Nation in the world (including one island nations in the pacific) participate in to get to the FINALS so every team from the start have started in the comp to win the trophy

and another question on why rugby is called rugby. It is because it was started in a town called rugby after some kid playing real football got fed up with the ball being flat ran it over the goal line in protest.

And without Real Football there would be no Rugby and with no rugby there would be NO AMERICAN FOOTBALL. FACT!!!

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

When's the last time boxing has been relevant though?

Well everybody talks about 50 Cent when they talk about rap, but we all know he enjoys penis.

[Tiesto422]

FYI, copy and paste is just as fast. If you would like to show me why any of the arguments are crappy with facts and reasoning instead of replies worthy of a 5 year old, thatd be nice.

[Asmodeus]

I'd agree that soccer is a cool sport, and it IS the most popular sport in the world...but it's because it'sa game of a more simplistic nature. It's easier for more people to understand it. i have played both sports...stratedgy in American football is many, many times deeper than in soccer. American football actually plays more like a game of chess than anything else (well, a game of chess with a bunch of guys knocking the piss out of each other).

I will argue that US football is the most stress relieving sport in the world to play, though. Nothing like running at someone full tilt and knocking them the the **** out.

[M00se]

How much do the American football padding cost? :P

[Yami no Takeshi]

I enjoy real Football anyday over American Football.
I have watched both.
And Football was more interesting, fun and pure to watch.
Till today i can pop an old video and still go "Holy Shit" when Maradonna goes pass the entire fucking English defence to score.
Nothing in American football makes me react like that, at best it does is to put me to sleep.
Speed? Henry, Etoo, Carlos and Giggs would outstrip even the fastest NFL runners.
Contact? People like Dennis Wise, Roy Keane and Vinnie Jones would make wussies out of NFL players.
Tactics? Talk to people like Jose, Wenger & Rijkaard. I doubt most NFL coaches have a sniff on tactical ability.

So yeah, Real Football is better than American Football.
But in the end these are my opinions, you are free to disagree. :amuse

[Leen]

Soccer pwns all. Dont deny that. World Cup alone attract so many viewers from all around the world but football has not even penetrate the wall of Asia at least. It's only popular in US. Soccer stars are much much more popular than football's star.

[Mukuro]

I enjoy real Football anyday over American Football.
I have watched both.
And Football was more interesting, fun and pure to watch.
Till today i can pop an old video and still go "Holy Shit" when Maradonna goes pass the entire fucking English defence to score.
Nothing in American football makes me react like that, at best it does is to put me to sleep.
Speed? Henry, Etoo, Carlos and Giggs would outstrip even the fastest NFL runners.
Contact? People like Dennis Wise, Roy Keane and Vinnie Jones would make wussies out of NFL players.
Tactics? Talk to people like Jose, Wenger & Rijkaard. I doubt most NFL coaches have a sniff on tactical ability.

So yeah, Real Football is better than American Football.
But in the end these are my opinions, you are free to disagree. :amuse
Believe this.

[XxShinzouxX]

I'm honestly amazed on how this thread is still running with all of the rants. Honestly, its all opinionated. Soccer (football) is loved by many, and American football is loved by many, even in other countries. They are both sports, and they are both entertaining to many. Thus, simply saying one is crap and the other is great is just showing what side your own.

The bottom line is, both of them have fouls, so lets call it an even match.

[Killa Cam]

I enjoy real Football anyday over American Football.
I have watched both.
And Football was more interesting, fun and pure to watch.
Till today i can pop an old video and still go "Holy Shit" when Maradonna goes pass the entire fucking English defence to score.
Nothing in American football makes me react like that, at best it does is to put me to sleep.
Speed? Henry, Etoo, Carlos and Giggs would outstrip even the fastest NFL runners.
Contact? People like Dennis Wise, Roy Keane and Vinnie Jones would make wussies out of NFL players.
Tactics? Talk to people like Jose, Wenger & Rijkaard. I doubt most NFL coaches have a sniff on tactical ability.

So yeah, Real Football is better than American Football.
But in the end these are my opinions, you are free to disagree. :amuse
The fasest guys in the NFL >>> Fastest guys in soccer
Toughest guys in the NFL >>> Toughest guys in soccer

It's no contest. If anyone tries to tell me soccer is more strategic than football they need to be shot. Football is a chess game and soccer is checkers. Real talk.

[Last of the Uchihas]

I did, I think I won though but i can't remember anything for like 2 days after i saw his fist comming at me at high speed.

But on topic i'm not gonna get into a slagging match but i do Prefer Real football over american football mostly for its free flowing action and little stoppages which with American Football its one play and stop. Now somepeople may prefer that its upto them.

Although i do think that American football is rugby for wimps cause i watch all 3 of them (Rugby being divided into 2 sports of League and Union). The tackles especially in Rugby Union are alot harder than you find in american football and things like scrums and rucks (when someone gets tackled upto 10 players on both sides can literally stand ontop of the poor guy to get the ball on their side) can be extremely dangerous and yet no one in rugby wears body armour at all and only a couple wear head protection (yet no where near like the helmets in American football).

Oh about that soccer sucks site i would like to give an answer to one of their things they say suck about it to anyone here that may be confused.



Actually WRONG. The World cup actually officially starts with the Qualifyers where every Nation in the world (including one island nations in the pacific) participate in to get to the FINALS so every team from the start have started in the comp to win the trophy

and another question on why rugby is called rugby. It is because it was started in a town called rugby after some kid playing real football got fed up with the ball being flat ran it over the goal line in protest.

And without Real Football there would be no Rugby and with no rugby there would be NO AMERICAN FOOTBALL. FACT!!!


This is what i woulsd call

Pwn bitch!!!

Next victim!!! :P

[Akatsucki Guy]

Football more strategy? I almost laughed.
To be good at soccer you actually need talent, not just a fat neck.

[Killa Cam]

Football more strategy? I almost laughed.
To be good at soccer you actually need talent, not just a fat neck.
Yes football has way more strategy. That's why coaches have spend over 18 hour work days just studying tape of their next opponent to see what they can exploit. Coaches can even fake their intentions as well.(Stack alot in the box so the QB reads run then drop them when the ball is snapped) In football you actually have plays you have to perform. If you're out of place and it is noticed then you're done for. You must have never watched football if you believe there is no strategy. Stuff a regular fat guy in the Oline and watch him give up a sack on every play.

[Negative-Ion]

Soccer players are more technical at what they do. It requires a lot of coordination to be a soccer player than a football player. In football you only use your hands to catch the ball, in soccer you use everything else except your hands.

What soccer players can do with a ball, football players havent even dreamed about.

[AdrianWerner]

Well..
Football is more fluid than American Football
Football awards intuition, improvisation and team-work
American football awards careful planning and total control of coach
Football requires far more skill than American Football
American Football requires far more physical fitness than Football

I prefer football and it's definitly more fun sport for most people to play(it's just much easier to set up a good game of football than a game of american football, plus it doesn't matter where you go, in every part of the world you will find people who play football, this is what makes it so much fun)

[XxShinzouxX]

I personally before kicking a round white ball around and running instead of tackling and humping people in order to sack them, and take a pigskin ball away. Its kind of degrading ^^

[AdrianWerner]

The fasest guys in the NFL >>> Fastest guys in soccer
Toughest guys in the NFL >>> Toughest guys in soccer

It's no contest. If anyone tries to tell me soccer is more strategic than football they need to be shot. Football is a chess game and soccer is checkers. Real talk.

I definitly think that guys like Owen could outrun any NFL players on short distances. Remember that they don't just grab the ball and run, they have to costantly kick it forward, it slows the movement like hell and yet they still can run with a ball fast as hell.
And yes...American fotball requires more strategy....from a coach. THe players in American Football hardly ever have to think, majority of thinking is done by coach, they just follow orders. In football the strategical input of coach is much smaller, but players have to think far more than in American football

[Yami no Takeshi]

The fasest guys in the NFL >>> Fastest guys in soccer
Toughest guys in the NFL >>> Toughest guys in soccer

It's no contest. If anyone tries to tell me soccer is more strategic than football they need to be shot. Football is a chess game and soccer is checkers. Real talk.

Bollocks.

All 4 players i mentioned in the speed department can do the 100 meters in the real low 11 second and some high/mid 10. Find me one American football player with that sort of speed.

People like Vinnie Jones as i said can dish and take more damage than any American footballer can hope to ever do. I have watched both American football and i have watched both European and South Amrican football intensively. I know this.

And about tactics. Feel free to shoot me then.
Cause there is easily more tactical work involved in Football.

Like i said, u dont have to agree with me. But dont try to bullshit me.
American footballers faster, hah!

[link 2 oblivion]

I used 2 play soccar but i got Fat so i play Football now.

[Killa Cam]

If anyone tries to tell me soccer guys are tougher than NFL players then please kill yourself. You can argue for rugby but not for soccer. Guys get pinched and act like a truck hit them. Football players run a 40 yard dash. If someone wants to try and convert times from 40 yard dashed to 100 meters then go right ahead.

Edit: Even the best coaches lose if their players don't execute. Also in football you can change the play if you notice anything strange. Watch a Colts game Peyton Manning always changes plays without the assistance of a coach.

[illusion]

I definitly think that guys like Owen could outrun any NFL players on short distances. Remember that they don't just grab the ball and run, they have to costantly kick it forward, it slows the movement like hell and yet they still can run with a ball fast as hell.
And yes...American fotball requires more strategy....from a coach. THe players in American Football hardly ever have to think, majority of thinking is done by coach, they just follow orders. In football the strategical input of coach is much smaller, but players have to think far more than in American football

I totally disagree, just because a coach calls the plays, doesn't mean you don't think. :S As a running back I always had to think ahead, sometimes I noticed the defense overpursuing and I would run a cut back, sometimes there's a hole, but the O-linemans feet is pointed towards the opponent so I know that hole won't stay open, because the O-lineman wants me to run towards the outside.

The defensive side of the ball is even more complicated, sure the coach sends in the play, but it's up to you to adjust to the offense. Just because the coach calls for a zone D, doesn't mean you stay in a zone. You've got to go with your instincts, if he hands the ball off to the running back, then you break out of your zone and try to make the tackle, but then again you have to watch out for the playaction.

Now don't even get me started on the QB, the QB in my school had to memorize a thick ass book of plays and that's just in high school! I'd hate to see what the NFL QB's have to memorize. Peyton Manning calls his own plays, so he's basically the coach and the QB.

My point is, every position takes skill and strategy, whether you're an O-lineman or a corner. Coaches can call plays, but it's up to you to make it happen. :amuse

[narutorulez]

personaly i like neither of them but if i must pick one then football cause that is a more cooler sport than soccer

[Negative-Ion]

Football players are geared up from head to toe so ofcourse they can endure more hits. You tackle a soccer player and hit him on the knee, ofcourse he will fall down and moan about it. Have you ever gotten hit on the knee with those soccer shoes? It hurts dude.

[Kimi Sama]

I've never played American football, but I do play actual football (soccer, if you insist) from time to time and it's alot of fun. Why couldnt whoever it was that invented American football just have came up with a new name for it anyway?

Anyway, I'm not sure why theres a an arguement about toughness going on, since football is a non contact sport so it doesnt matter if you're hard or not. It's more about how fast you can control the ball.
I do with football players would stop pretending every single contact broke their legs though, it's totally unsportsmanlike and ruins the flow of things. Bunch of cheating bastards...

You want to compare hard people's sports, compare American football to rugby - eg American football with no padding. Now thats a hard person's sport

[Tiesto422]

"All 4 players i mentioned in the speed department can do the 100 meters in the real low 11 second and some high/mid 10."

Kids at my old high school could run that fast for the hundred meters. The national record for high school in america is 10.08 seconds.

"Rossum captained the school’s track squad all four years. He posted the fastest time in the nation in the 100 meters (10.02 seconds, apparently wind aided) in 1993.
"

Allen Rossum plays defensive back for the atlanta falcons and was last years fastest NFL player. In conclusion, our high schoolers are faster than your best soccer players.

"Why couldnt whoever it was that invented American football just have came up with a new name for it anyway?"

We don't have that problem, we call your sport soccer and ours football.

[pek]

"All 4 players i mentioned in the speed department can do the 100 meters in the real low 11 second and some high/mid 10."

Kids at my old high school could run that fast for the hundred meters. The national record for high school in america is 10.08 seconds.

"Rossum captained the school’s track squad all four years. He posted the fastest time in the nation in the 100 meters (10.02 seconds, apparently wind aided) in 1993.
"

Allen Rossum plays defensive back for the atlanta falcons and was last years fastest NFL player. In conclusion, our high schoolers are faster than your best soccer players.

"Why couldnt whoever it was that invented American football just have came up with a new name for it anyway?"

We don't have that problem, we call your sport soccer and ours football.
Check the world record at 100m, you would want to name those in your school since they should be participating in Olympics (JR); http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Record_progression_100_m_men

These 2 sports are 2 entirely different sports;
Non-contact / Contact sport
hands strictly forbidden / hands used

In football you dont need to be fast, of course you have to have some speed but since you carry the ball on your feets the speed doesnt really matter, what matters is technique, strenght and a good and fast working brain.

[blue_duck]

"Why couldnt whoever it was that invented American football just have came up with a new name for it anyway?"

We don't have that problem, we call your sport soccer and ours football.
But it really doesn't make sense, in football (soccer) you actually use your feet to control the ball and play..whereas in American football you use your hands...

[MasterFox]

You know what, screw both of them street bmx is where it's at!

[Asmodeus]

Best way to determine this is for people who have extensively played both to give impressions and experiences. Otherwise, you really don't have a foot to stand on.

Here's a breakdown of the too.

Soccer is a more physically demanding sport. No ifs, ands, or buts. You have to be in better shape to play soccer well than football.

Football is a more physical sport. Anyone who argues otherwise...come on, guys. Think about that for just a few seconds. In soccer, excessive contact is avoided, and even penalized. Contact is what the entire game of football is about.

Soccer is an easier, more open sport to learn. Actually, it's a more open sport, period. All you need to play soccer is a ball. Football, on the other hand, requires about a $1000 worth of pads to play properly (at least at the NFL level it does).

Soccer is faster paced, simpler game. No bones about it. Think checkers.

Football is a stop-and-start game, slow, then blazing for an instant, then stopped again. This is why the same kind of stamina isn't required for a football player that it is a soccer player. Football, however, is a much more intricately complex game than soccer is. The actual game itself plays like a violent chess match.

Average soccer player is significantly faster than average football player. Once again, no sound arguement otherwise here.

Average football player is significanlty stronger than average soccer player. When you have offensive lineman benchpressing 470 lbs and squatting over a 1000, no one in soccer competes with that.

That's about my summary. It comes from experience...I played soccer for 4 years and football for eight. In the end, I prefer US Football. Why? I like chess better than checkers.

[Negative-Ion]

Best way to determine this is for people who have extensively played both to give impressions and experiences. Otherwise, you really don't have a foot to stand on.

Here's a breakdown of the too.

Soccer is a more physically demanding sport. No ifs, ands, or buts. You have to be in better shape to play soccer well than football.

Football is a more physical sport. Anyone who argues otherwise...come on, guys. Think about that for just a few seconds. In soccer, excessive contact is avoided, and even penalized. Contact is what the entire game of football is about.

Soccer is an easier, more open sport to learn. Actually, it's a more open sport, period. All you need to play soccer is a ball. Football, on the other hand, requires about a $1000 worth of pads to play properly (at least at the NFL level it does).

Soccer is faster paced, simpler game. No bones about it. Think checkers.

Football is a stop-and-start game, slow, then blazing for an instant, then stopped again. This is why the same kind of stamina isn't required for a football player that it is a soccer player. Football, however, is a much more intricately complex game than soccer is. The actual game itself plays like a violent chess match.

Average soccer player is significantly faster than average football player. Once again, no sound arguement otherwise here.

Average football player is significanlty stronger than average soccer player. When you have offensive lineman benchpressing 470 lbs and squatting over a 1000, no one in soccer competes with that.

That's about my summary. It comes from experience...I played soccer for 4 years and football for eight. In the end, I prefer US Football. Why? I like chess better than checkers.


Its a good summary, but you know that checkers was invented before chess right? :P

[Shogun]

look ASSmodeus. at the end of your summary you concluded that football is like chess and soccer like checkers. That is not an adequet comparison, both are far more compex then chess and i feel that your conclusion does neither sport justice. I feel soccer can be very tactical at the highest level anyway, the co-ordination of 10 men is not an easy task, tactics of a team without the most talented players can make them champions, so there is a value to tactics in soccer. The reason why soccer is easier to play is that there are many forms of the game, you can't get 22 players all the time you can play with any number of players and still have a level of fun. But the professional level is far more advanced then your average kick around but at least you can improve your skills without the need of a load of players. Football is to ridgid, you need a lot of people, you need equipment and you need someone to boss you around, being told what to do for every little thing is a passionless sport. In soccer when the going gets tough the coach may have a few ideas but it is down to you on the pitch to do something about it. That is what makes a great player, the guy who steps up because if he didn't no one else would. Football players can't make such claim, you can take your apparent tactics and stick them because i may not have tactics but i have passion.

[Negative-Ion]

^^ what he said is true too. I remeber when i was in greece 6 years ago, we would play 2 vs 2 world cup style matches with only 10 players. Or sometimes we would just go 5vs5. In a area half a basketball court and still have fun and be competitive.

[9th]

About the fastest players, EVERYONE knows that soccer got way more fast players. Why? Cuz' dammit... in football u got what? America playin it? Soccer you got the whole world. Do the math. Really, in soccer you wont get famous for being fast... so you havent really seen all to make a proper judgement.

[Tiesto422]

"Check the world record at 100m, you would want to name those in your school since they should be participating in Olympics (JR)"

Since when does anyone run for USA that can't break 10 seconds?

[Killa Cam]

About the fastest players, EVERYONE knows that soccer got way more fast players. Why? Cuz' dammit... in football u got what? America playin it? Soccer you got the whole world. Do the math. Really, in soccer you wont get famous for being fast... so you havent really seen all to make a proper judgement.
One(football) focuses on speed the other(soccer) doesn't.

Edit: The average soccer player is faster but the fasest football player is faster than the fasest soccer player.

[9th]

One(football) focuses on speed the other(soccer) doesn't.
Speed in 2-5 sec. Football is a way faster sport in 2-5 sec because thats all they get! Soccer on the other hand, daaaaaaaaamn you get speed for full!

[Tiesto422]

If you like speed and fewer stoppages why not watch Hockey?

Heres the thing, what should have been addressed first is, what makes a good sport? Are we talking about playing it or watching it?

With that being said, I don't think a person's physical strength, speed or endurance adds any entertainment value to a sport. We see players in every sport overcome obstacles (height, weight, strength, speed, etc) and become great players and they actually are better in our eyes BECAUSE of those physical deficiencies. (Think Rudy)

As far as watching a game goes, theres 4 things that I think are key.

Contact
Game Speed
Scoring
Comebacks

I like sports such as lacrosse and rugby, and they do well under this ranking system, but unfortunately, they aren't shown or played much at all in the US.

[Asmodeus]

look ASSmodeus. at the end of your summary you concluded that football is like chess and soccer like checkers. That is not an adequet comparison, both are far more compex then chess and i feel that your conclusion does neither sport justice. I feel soccer can be very tactical at the highest level anyway, the co-ordination of 10 men is not an easy task, tactics of a team without the most talented players can make them champions, so there is a value to tactics in soccer. The reason why soccer is easier to play is that there are many forms of the game, you can't get 22 players all the time you can play with any number of players and still have a level of fun. But the professional level is far more advanced then your average kick around but at least you can improve your skills without the need of a load of players. Football is to ridgid, you need a lot of people, you need equipment and you need someone to boss you around, being told what to do for every little thing is a passionless sport. In soccer when the going gets tough the coach may have a few ideas but it is down to you on the pitch to do something about it. That is what makes a great player, the guy who steps up because if he didn't no one else would. Football players can't make such claim, you can take your apparent tactics and stick them because i may not have tactics but i have passion.

You don't think football has passion? Read the top of my post. Unless you've played both, you have no foot to stand on. Really, if you don't have a large amount of exposure to each sport, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

And about chess and checkers...checkers is older...what does that have to do with anything? Just curious, lol.

Also, Adam III, you think they're BOTH more complex than chess? O.o. Are you serious? You're either not an avid chess player or you're an idiot, it's definately one of the two, because otherwise no one in their right mind would make that statement. Once again, if you don't have a lot of exposure or experience....

[Tiesto422]

Take for example, a corner kick. A set play where most of the players are involved. Think of all the tactics that go along with that corner kick. But now imagine that both teams have the opportunity to score off that corner kick. That's what every play in the NFL is like.

[Kyuubisan727]

I don't know about that, all I see the players do is use their feet to run away as they hold the stupidly shaped ball in their hands. The real football is actually soccer because they use their alot more in this sport than our so-called Football in the U.S. Hell if you wanted to avoid being ran over by a legion of enemies from the opposing team all you need to do is line up so C4 across the field and blow the other team away. Either that or fly! lol

And if you're talking about strength, it takes just as much strength to be able to run across the field as you worry about the other players taking the ball from you or hurting you in some way to get the same result. Don't think that unlike our U.S football, Soccer doesn't run on a gameplan. Of course it can! The players who can keep up with the game and at the same time formulate a strategy to win the game would consider the player skilled.

[Tiesto422]

"Hell if you wanted to avoid being ran over by a legion of enemies from the opposing team all you need to do is line up so C4 across the field and blow the other team away. Either that or fly! lol"

lol?

[Freakness]

Liek ... no way ?xD
Soccer >> Football, thx .

[Asmodeus]

Liek ... no way ?xD
Soccer >> Football, thx .

Yes, see, this was just the constructive post we needed for this thread *rolls eyes*

I have yet to see anyone with dual exposure post something, or, for that matter, a lot of exposure to either sport post anything. Watching means nothing. If you have played either sport, please speak up. If you've played both, please speak louder. I hate being the only one with a basis for opinion...

[Cesc Fabregas]

im a keen footballer, its the most simple game to play, 1 ball + afew jumpers and your off!!!!!
anyway............................THE FIFA WORLD CUP IS THE BIGGEST SPORTING EVENT IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so that ends it!!!!

btw , HENRY IS THE KING!!!!!

[Even]

American Football is mostly popular in the US. they have rugby in the UK and other countries, but that is WITHOUT protection (so AF is for pussies). Football (soccer) is the most popular sport in the world today, and there's actually more national teams who are members of FIFA than there are countries in the world. Football has created wars and ended wars, and football players are some of the best payed athletes in the world.
In other words:
Football (soccer)>>>>>>>American Football

[DesignCore]

Who cares both sports are boring as shit.
In one you have them job around the field and pass teh ball and ur luky to see one goal.

In the other you get more whistles and stoppages then if you were paying a hooker per suc.

[semperfi]

sure it is

[CABLE]

Why's this being debated. It has been proven by science football is better than soccer.

[.Naptha]

This thread is extremly confusing.

By "Football" you mean "AMERICAN Football"

and by "Soccer" you mean "Football"

First off Football > AMERICAN Football

because without our Football/Soccer there wouldnt be AMERICAN Football and American Football players are pussys. FULL STOP. ^^

EDIT: Now RUGBY, thats a REAL mans game.

[Cesc Fabregas]

HOW THE HELL CAN SCIENCE PROVE WHAT SPORT IS BETTER?!?!!!!!

if confused!...................stupid everton...............

[Killa Cam]

I don't know about that, all I see the players do is use their feet to run away as they hold the stupidly shaped ball in their hands. The real football is actually soccer because they use their alot more in this sport than our so-called Football in the U.S. Hell if you wanted to avoid being ran over by a legion of enemies from the opposing team all you need to do is line up so C4 across the field and blow the other team away. Either that or fly! lol

And if you're talking about strength, it takes just as much strength to be able to run across the field as you worry about the other players taking the ball from you or hurting you in some way to get the same result. Don't think that unlike our U.S football, Soccer doesn't run on a gameplan. Of course it can! The players who can keep up with the game and at the same time formulate a strategy to win the game would consider the player skilled.
If you're saying it takes the same amount of strenght to play both games then you're kidding yourself. One is a contact sport and the other is Euro's running around in short shorts.


People always bring up Rugby to discredit Football. I mean when Rugby players try out for the NFL they can only be punters/kickers(the pussiest position on the field). If your players are so tough why are they reduced to pussy positions? They aren't used to players coming that fast at you that's why. You can call wearing pads pussy all you want but I bet you wouldn't be able to get up right away if you were hit by one of the faster defensive players.

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

If you're saying it takes the same amount of strenght to play both games then you're kidding yourself. One is a contact sport and the other is Euro's running around in short shorts.


People always bring up Rugby to discredit Football. I mean when Rugby players try out for the NFL they can only be punters/kickers(the pussiest position on the field). If your players are so tough why are they reduced to pussy positions? They aren't used to players coming that fast at you that's why. You can call wearing pads pussy all you want but I bet you wouldn't be able to get up right away if you were hit by one of the faster defensive players.

I guess you play rugby, football and soccer ??:huh
To answer your question soccer is better than football. First thing is that the game doesn't stop every 30 seconds. Second you don't have a defense and offense team, its just 1team with soccer so you gotta have attacking skills and defense skills.
3rd The ball is round with soccer, not a ridiculous shaped ball where some huge american sat on.......

And another thing about rugby players, most of them are rougher than those big american line-backers. Who cant even run 200meters in full speed.
And a rugby game is more fun to watch and play.

[Killa Cam]

I guess you play rugby, football and soccer ??:huh
To answer your question soccer is better than football. First thing is that the game doesn't stop every 30 seconds. Second you don't have a defense and offense team, its just 1team with soccer so you gotta have attacking skills and defense skills.
3rd The ball is round with soccer, not a ridiculous shaped ball where some huge american sat on.......

And another thing about rugby players, most of them are rougher than those big american line-backers. Who cant even run 200meters in full speed.
And a rugby game is more fun to watch and play.
If one of your reasons is the shape of the ball then you can't be taken serious. I mean I could say it looks like soccer players kicking around dalmations. The thing is rugby players aren't faster than linebacker. I think you might be talking about linemen if you downplaying speed and even then the fat guys are faster than normal.

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Well if i must choose between rugby, soccer and football. Football doesn't even come in my mind. Rugby is a tougher sport, its for the real man. And your line about rugby players trying to get in the NFL is all wrong. Most of the rugby players don't want anything to do with that sissy USA football.
Face it Football is not a popular sport outside the USA.

[CABLE]

Rugby is a joke. Its a bunch of slow white guys groping each other. Just not my cup of tea.

[mUcHo LoCo]

well... they're the same thing in england :P i kinda like football, cus its better when watching

[CABLE]

well... they're the same thing in england :P i kinda like football, cus its better when watching

You and 30 other people have made that very obvious. And perhaps to your suprise, we don't give a shit!
Killa will not call it "American Football" as to cater to our foreign friends needs.

[pek]

I guess there is a reason why football is the biggest sport in the world. Played all around the world and loved by people all around the world, almost every city/quarter in Europe, Asia, Latin America have their own teams.

[Poopahd]

Yup Football > American Football in my opinion. It's really just a matter of opinion, but one might say that its a fact considering how it is the worlds game. And if you think Football doesn't involve much contact well go try playing in the Italian Seria A :).

[an_honestMistake]

Well i didn't feel like reading all the posts be4 me, but to the title, yes american football owns.

[Iijyanaika]

i'm going to have to say american footbal and baseball are the most mind numbing sports. stop go stop go stop go. i think the only thing americans have done right is with basketball. futbol and tennis beat those two out hands down. table tennis is more appealing and challenging than american football.

hells yeah

[illusion]

i'm going to have to say american footbal and baseball are the most mind numbing sports. stop go stop go stop go. i think the only thing americans have done right is with basketball. futbol and tennis beat those two out hands down. table tennis is more appealing and challenging than american football.

hells yeah

I would've respected your opinion, but then you mentioned Tennis being a better sport. :oh

You women and your beliefs. :laugh

[CABLE]

I would've respected your opinion, but then you mentioned Tennis being a better sport. :oh

You women and your beliefs. :laugh

Agree'd

@peK, the world is pussies thats why. America ownz them all.

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Agree'd

@peK, the world is pussies thats why. America ownz them all.
And you have Bush as a president........:amuse
This thread is just based on opinion.
So anyone can say what he likes or dislikes about it.
It would be bad if everybody agreed on everything.
Then it would be a sad place to live........
But I prefer tennis over American football:P

[CABLE]

And you have Bush as a president........:amuse
This thread is just based on opinion.
So anyone can say what he likes or dislikes about it.
It would be bad if everybody agreed on everything.
Then it would be a sad place to live........
But I prefer tennis over American football:P

Just because our president is an asshat, doesn't mean we aren't better than every other country.

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Just because our president is an asshat, doesn't mean we aren't better than every other country.
LoL in American football maybe......

[illusion]

But I prefer tennis over American football:P

I didn't know so many women posted in the Sports Bar. :P

[CABLE]

LoL in American football maybe......

In everything actually, tell you leader he is free to challenge us. We'd fuck that bitch up.

[Killa Cam]

i'm going to have to say american footbal and baseball are the most mind numbing sports. stop go stop go stop go. i think the only thing americans have done right is with basketball. futbol and tennis beat those two out hands down. table tennis is more appealing and challenging than american football.

hells yeah
Putting an American in front of football is an insult to everyone who ever played or enjoyed the game. Football is football and soccer is soccer. We took the name fair and square

[Nemesis]

and yet this thread is still going. You do know the word soccer originates from england right. But anyway American football just isn't interesting to me really, its just an offshoot of another british sport called rugby but its taken away the free flowing movement that comes with Rugby and Real Football. Its basically the reason why i Love Real Football, Rugby Union and Ice hockey because they are not stopping after every 5 seconds when someone tackles or something like that its more pass and move.

Oh just because nearly 300 million americans want to call it soccer doesn't mean the 6billion plus are going to agree and calling real football soccer is an insult to many of the 6 billion who have played the sport for fun or professionally so there :P

[cloudabove87]

LoL in American football maybe......

Bring it bitch . . . the only thing you could beat us in would be soccer, and nobody here cares . . . although depending on where you are from you probably have some screwed up little games you play with yourselves. Don't fuck with America . . .

[sonnie_skies]

Football is too start-stop, start-stop for my taste. It also requires a great deal of knowledge to properly appreciate. I'm not saying that soccer is the better sport, only that it's more accessible. I think on a whole that soccer players are in better shape (not stronger but healthier overall) and I just like it more. Both sports have their flaws.

[sasuke_limays]

foot ball is a good sport.............
this sport just not for man only.....
but also can for woman

[Bearbrand]

I did, I think I won though but i can't remember anything for like 2 days after i saw his fist comming at me at high speed.

But on topic i'm not gonna get into a slagging match but i do Prefer Real football over american football mostly for its free flowing action and little stoppages which with American Football its one play and stop. Now somepeople may prefer that its upto them.

Although i do think that American football is rugby for wimps cause i watch all 3 of them (Rugby being divided into 2 sports of League and Union). The tackles especially in Rugby Union are alot harder than you find in american football and things like scrums and rucks (when someone gets tackled upto 10 players on both sides can literally stand ontop of the poor guy to get the ball on their side) can be extremely dangerous and yet no one in rugby wears body armour at all and only a couple wear head protection (yet no where near like the helmets in American football).

Oh about that soccer sucks site i would like to give an answer to one of their things they say suck about it to anyone here that may be confused.



Actually WRONG. The World cup actually officially starts with the Qualifyers where every Nation in the world (including one island nations in the pacific) participate in to get to the FINALS so every team from the start have started in the comp to win the trophy

and another question on why rugby is called rugby. It is because it was started in a town called rugby after some kid playing real football got fed up with the ball being flat ran it over the goal line in protest.

And without Real Football there would be no Rugby and with no rugby there would be NO AMERICAN FOOTBALL. FACT!!!

Ameen.. American football is for pussies :laugh

[Shampoo]

Soccer rulez the world...thats all you need to know

[DesignCore]

Yup Football > American Football in my opinion. It's really just a matter of opinion, but one might say that its a fact considering how it is the worlds game. And if you think Football doesn't involve much contact well go try playing in the Italian Seria A :).

so watch abunch of grass faries fake dives left and right hoping to get a call for the opponent, yeah sounds fun.
Fukin italians.

[cloudabove87]

America, Fuck yeah, coming again to save the mother fucking day yeah (with american football)

[Ishamael (inactive)]

lacross beats all

[Hibino]

killer cam is just mad that black players don't dominate soccer
Most of the soccer legends are black:)

[damnhot]

Football is Football

Amercian Football is American Football

Words from a wise man

[nimrod]

Football (sorry but i'm not calling it soccer) is much better than american football.
Why?
they call it football....yet they kick the ball like...what? 10 times? they run with the ball.
american football is just like brawling or boxing... the only difference between them is that u carry a ball around as u're punching people....OH and that u've got more people to punch and played in a larger arena

[shabbit]

Football (sorry but i'm not calling it soccer) is much better than american football.
Why?
they call it football....yet they kick the ball like...what? 10 times? they run with the ball.
american football is just like brawling or boxing... the only difference between them is that u carry a ball around as u're punching people....OH and that u've got more people to punch and played in a larger arena

American football's name is derived from its combination of soccer football and rugby. Boxing is a complex sport. American football is the chess of all sports, with complex strategies and great players. Football (soccer) is a great sport in itself (arguably the reigning king of sports right now), and I expect to see the Americans win a world cup within the next twenty years.

What's most promising about US Soccer is how some players are choosing soccer over football because they simply like the sport more, and their physical gifts that would do them well in basketball or A. football can help them equally much in soccer.

[Last of the Uchihas]

American football's name is derived from its combination of soccer football and rugby. Boxing is a complex sport. American football is the chess of all sports, with complex strategies and great players. Football (soccer) is a great sport in itself (arguably the reigning king of sports right now), and I expect to see the Americans win a world cup within the next twenty years.

What's most promising about US Soccer is how some players are choosing soccer over football because they simply like the sport more, and their physical gifts that would do them well in basketball or A. football can help them equally much in soccer.



more like in the next 1000 years if civilazation is still around.:amuse

[Sho]

Since I played both sports, and was on school/competitive teams for both sports, I would have to say that I enjoy playing them equally. There's more freedom and a sense of individuality when playing soccer, but I get much more of a team spirit when playing American football.

In terms of watching a game though, I prefer watching football.

In terms of which is the better sport, I like both equally.

[NU-KazeKage]

lol, screw you.

Like i said to you on your other insighful thread.

Soccer > football.

Soccer is not the most popular sport in the world for nothing, unless of course you want to tell me the US =World.

http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/What_are_the_top_10_most_popular_sports_in_the_wor ld_based_on_number_of_fans
yeah drugs and porn are popular dosnt mean its good

[Genis-Vell]

Football is Soccer. (that’s a dugh!)
Why do Americans call it football if their hands are used most of the time. (I don’t know Im not American.)

[illusion]

Football (sorry but i'm not calling it soccer) is much better than american football.
Why?
they call it football....yet they kick the ball like...what? 10 times? they run with the ball.
american football is just like brawling or boxing... the only difference between them is that u carry a ball around as u're punching people....OH and that u've got more people to punch and played in a larger arena

Hahaha, yeah, isn't it great? :amuse

[Yamucha]

Soccer>Football ... Football is boring as hell .

[Spicy_Tofu]

rugby ppl rugby

rugby = american football without helmets, shoulder pads, tight pants and much more skill and way bigger hits

but then again, no one knows rugby league. no one at all

[illusion]

rugby ppl rugby

rugby = american football without helmets, shoulder pads, tight pants and much more skill and way bigger hits

but then again, no one knows rugby league. no one at all

Who doesn't know about Rugby?

Manu Samoa would be the best team in the world, but the All-Blacks keep taking our best players. :(

[zizou]

Football is Soccer. (that’s a dugh!)
Why do Americans call it football if their hands are used most of the time. (I don’t know Im not American.)

yeah. I'd say it but you already did it! :thumbs

[ZE]

I prefer baseball to American football, and soccer aka true football is the best sport in the world.

[Hype]

rugby ppl rugby

rugby = american football without helmets, shoulder pads, tight pants and much more skill and way bigger hits

but then again, no one knows rugby league. no one at all


Who doesnt being a brit i know plenty about ruby league :thumbs

Football > soccer

true although i dont know wtf this soccor lark is

Down in murky England we call it football preimership > all :P

[ZE]

Down in murky England we call it football preimership > all :P
No, you call premiership.

[Sogeking]

American football is the greatest (other than lacrosse)! College football is the greatest spectator sport in the world! Soccer is the most boring sport I've ever seen! :laugh

[ChaotixXero]

I don't know much about sports but...Why is it called football? You only ever kick it for a field goal(?).

[Sogeking]

No one knows, that's just the way it is! :laugh

[Gambitz]

no way bud soccer is better then football its a better sport more people get exited over soccer then footbal its the truth go to a football game then go to a soccer game then u will see the difference

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Voetbal is way more fun.
To watch and to play !

[sut_69]

As I am english, I reserve the right to mock american football, hahaha ;)
I do like "soccer" more though, blatantly. There is just something magical about dribbling around a defender and leaving them for dead, pulling a few tricks and blamming one in the top corner. Can't be beaten :) s'cuse me while I go and lie down and think about proper football (english football, btw. what is this soccer?)

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Its something the american ppl made up :spaz !

[sut_69]

evil americans:bang

[Halcyon Dreamz]

It just a matter of opinion really. I watch the NFL and soccer frequently and love them both but Ill pick soccer since i play it more and have been interested in it longer

[sut_69]

Yeah, I like both as well. I just think football is a hell of a lot better than american football (i refuse to call it soccer, sorry but thats how the majority of the world knows it so why should the US be different?) Its quite hard to compare them directly though, as they are very different sports to play, having played both of them. american football is mostly about physical strength/speed and agility, plus catching/throwing the ball if your a QB or WR. Football is about skill and control usually, speed can be useful as can strength, but you can be the slowest, weakest person out there and be a god at football. (zico for example, from the brazil 1982 squad. not very quick, very small and weak, but one of the most skillful players ever.

phew, that was starting to sound like a rant. oh well, feel free to argue my points. (if you don't agree with me though, you're wrong. ha ha ha) ;)

[zizou]

soccer > all sports :omg

[superattackpea]

alright i get sick of people saying soccer is most popular sport in the world, the superbowl is the most widly watched sporting event in the world

[kaizuki]

^^^ actually the world cup is the most watched event,because football is popular ALL over the world.American football is mostly about strength and throwing a ball.while football is more about coordination and speed(not always about speed but,most ot the time it's about speed)

[Rice Ball]

Football = Soccer?

And heres a truthful statement-

Rugby > American football :)

alright i get sick of people saying soccer is most popular sport in the world, the superbowl is the most widly watched sporting event in the world

Well it is the most popular sport in the world, that above statement is very debaitable, more than likely more americans warch it but remember the rest of the world outside your borders :)

Do you honestly think more people in a year watch the American football than rest of the world football, i mean they have weekly matchs in stadiums that hold like 50k+ people. Not to mention TV.

[opie]

soccer is way more fun to play, i never see football because i don't know shit about it but americans seem to have more fun watching it, though i did play football and it wasn't fun to any of my friends or me.
playing:
soccer>>>>>>>>>>>football
watching:
to me: soccer > football
to americans: footbal > soccer

[Mukuro]

soccer is way more fun to play, i never see football because i don't know shit about it but americans seem to have more fun watching it, though i did play football and it wasn't fun to any of my friends or me.It shouldn't be in your blood to be fun.

[Vegeta]

Honestly, to play, I would enjoy Soccer a helluvalot more, its a lot faster and more energetic. It seems to play American foot ball all you need to do is run in small bursts then rest for thirty seconds. Thats just lazy, playing midfield in soccer is awesome.

To watch, I'd rather watch American Football, as it is slightly entertaining to watch, soccer is FUCKING BORING! Like watching Ping Pong on a larger scale.

But honestly, Rugby > All. In terms of playing and watching. It is played at a much faster pace, you actually have to be FIT to play it (unlike American Football) and its very physical. The tackles you have in American Football, are nothing compared to a Brian Lima special (Or Jerry Colins, or De Vet Barrie, or Tana Umaga, or Lots of people that hit fucking hard)

[Mukuro]

You really think American football is more exciting to watch than English football?

Do you follow any particular league (e.g. The Premiership, Serie A, etc.)?

[Vegeta]

Nope, I have tried to watch some mathces in the Champions League, but never got into them and found them to be utterly boring, I'd much rather watch Rugby. To me Soccer is a game best watched as a highlights package.

[Mukuro]

Lol... I can see where you're coming from since some matches are crap.

There are some games that just absolutely need 90 minutes of your attention. I think the more important Champions' League games deserves full attention though, but the entertainment that'll come from future games is a little unpredictible. The games will be too intense and have all sorts of effects on the players.

But yea... I sleep through some games :P

Yesterday's game between Lyon and AC Milan was something else though... It was amazing. Luckily I caught it all.

[Vegeta]

Last weekend I watched the Auckland Blues play the Bulls (From Pretoria in South Africa, I think.). Awesome game of Rugby. That required my attention. Watching 11 men pass a ball inbetween eachother, occasionally loosing it to the other team so they can pass it inbetween eachother constantly, and maybe 3 times in that 90 minutes of passing the ball around, they score... yeah, I think you get my point.

What I like about Rugby is, ACTION, ACTION and more ACTION! It is constant.

[Rice Ball]

Agree with you there Ronin, the funny thing is i watch a mate play rugby every sat afternoon, theres often a few punchups and such. I go home and watch it and they are also having punchups on the TV too. Just makes me laugh thinking about what would happen if that happened in football.

[Vegeta]

Dude, there are fights in soccer, just, in the crowds.

[Mukuro]

It's very rare to see fights on the pitch... Those who get involved in punch ups in a match of football tend to be the weaker minded.

In the crowds you've got fans, clearly there are punch ups/rumbles in the stands, possibly every single match.

But I understand where you guys coming from about the entertainment in rugby. It seems to me like the players never stop running. In football, some players tend to have extended breaks. Especially centre forwards.

[Rice Ball]

I also love the way in Football, if the player gets fouled they roll around on the floor crying untill the ref gives the other player a card. In Rugby if a player has blood pissing out the top of there head, they yell at the ref if he orders them off the pitch injured

[Vegeta]

I also love the way in Football, if the player gets fouled they roll around on the floor crying untill the ref gives the other player a card. In Rugby if a player has blood pissing out the top of there head, they yell at the ref if he orders them off the pitch injured

That is another thing. Soccer players try and milk fouls all the time. It pisses me off, I mean that thing with Renaldo (Older one) a few years ago, how the ball hit his leg and he went down holding his face, what a fucking bitch!

[ruffgoat]

Erm. Firstly, I would like to state that my favourite sport of all time is soccer. Some people say they dont like soccer because it isnt manly enough or its a sport for pu**ies and by some people i mean americans(and the occasional canadian but its alright because they are retarded so they dont count).
Soccer can be played by many people but the thing is that it can only be played very well by a few. Not like basketball where practically everyone is great. In football you can play decently if you dont know how to play but if you want to play really well you have to be extremely talented as it requires alot of ball control, accuracy, agility, speed. Its like basketball but with your feet. Its much harder than basketball because you do things with your hands in basketball which are much easier than doing with your feet. Next point, soccer is indeed a rough sport. If you dont think so then play some soccer with some real people and you wont be able to move the next day. Why do you think there are always injuries. Practically every 2 matches someone gets injured, be it a broken leg, knee, foot, toe, shin, torn muscles, puncture wounds, its all happened in soccer and keeps on happening. The only pads they wear are shin guards and they dont need to be huge to be eligible to play (as in american football).
Actually why is it called american football, didnt a fcking canadian invent the damn sport?
also, i would like to say that both football and soccer require alot of teamwork but unlike in pansy football, where they stop the play every 3 seconds and the coach draws up plays for the bonehead retards that are outthere playing, in soccer almost all the plays are improvised and it requires that the players understand each other on the field and play well as a team.

[ruffgoat]

That is another thing. Soccer players try and milk fouls all the time. It pisses me off, I mean that thing with Renaldo (Older one) a few years ago, how the ball hit his leg and he went down holding his face, what a fucking bitch!
That was rivaldo during the 2002 world cup that pissed me off aswell. Generally south american players tend to dive alot, and argentinian coach boasted like 2 months ago that he is teaching them diving tactics. Its an annoying part of the game that they try to contain as much as possible, for the most part i think the refs do a good job. And if they happen to miss it like the rivaldo one the player will still get penalized after the game. I think he got a match ban and a hefty fine, something like 50,000$.
I guess he would think twice before doing that again.

[sut_69]

I also love the way in Football, if the player gets fouled they roll around on the floor crying untill the ref gives the other player a card. In Rugby if a player has blood pissing out the top of there head, they yell at the ref if he orders them off the pitch injured

That's only weak ass european and south american footy players. Anyone ever see England v Sweden in the early 1990s. Terry Butcher crunches into this guy with his head, and blood starts pouring out, but he just slaps a bandage round his head and carries on for the rest of the match. About 5 minutes after he comes back on the bandage is bright red, blood is all over his shirt and pretty much every swedish players shirt as well. Now that's a proper footballer!

[Dirk Diggler]

"Rugby is a game played by thugs but watched by Gentlemen, whereas, football is a game played by Gentlemen and watched by Thugs"

[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

"Rugby is a game played by thugs but watched by Gentlemen, whereas, football is a game played by Gentlemen and watched by Thugs"
True.... !!!:P

[Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki]

The name football annoys me. Possibly even more than people replacing "have" with "of" in english sentences. Clearly, the football/soccer names got swapped by mistake. Surely the one sport that involves your feet should have "foot" in the name, while soccer... Let's just let the americans take that name for their game of running and tackling.

[zizou]

^ Lol... agreed. :thumbs