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pnoypridz
12-01-2005, 08:29 PM
Every Marvel heroes vs Night elves, orcs, undead, human and the burning legion

who wins!!!

Darts
12-01-2005, 08:35 PM
as much as i like warcraft i am going to go with the marvel heroes

Gooba
12-01-2005, 08:36 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't even Wolverine be able to take them all out, and if not, the Hulk, SS, Iron Man, Prof X, or hundreds others would be able to solo it.

pnoypridz
12-01-2005, 08:41 PM
your saying wolverine can solo an army of orcs?????

i really doubt it
wc3 has marvel heroes 100 to 1 or even more

and the burning legions got super strong demons with them that can destroy citys in a instant

mistergin
12-01-2005, 08:54 PM
Bloodlust > *

*zug zug*

Havoc
12-01-2005, 09:41 PM
your saying wolverine can solo an army of orcs?????

i really doubt it
wc3 has marvel heroes 100 to 1 or even more

and the burning legions got super strong demons with them that can destroy citys in a instant


Marvel has heroes that can destroy planets easily.

RAGING BONER
12-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Marvel has heroes that can recreate reality...

HOKAGEKYZRE
12-01-2005, 10:42 PM
yeah marvel is a cheater...but if you didnt have all those stupid characters i still think they could take on wc3...maybie not easily though...

GSurge
12-01-2005, 10:43 PM
One marvel person would be more fair. All of them is just retarded.

This is like a volcano vs an ice cube.

organizedcrime
12-01-2005, 10:43 PM
Burning Legion supposed has "Infiinite amount of forces" it said that somewherein the manual, but if this Marvel has heroes that can recreate reality... applies, than WarCraft Universe is screwed.

Gooba
12-01-2005, 10:50 PM
your saying wolverine can solo an army of orcs?????Point 1: Orcs<<<<<Ninjashttp://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6248/ninjas17mt.jpg
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pnoypridz
12-01-2005, 10:51 PM
okay im talking out the people who can change realitys....

edit:so tell me how wolverine going to kill the army air units and all the orc have to do is net wolvie down and hit him with alot of range attacks or an shadow hunter can just hex him and everybody can kill him easly

CABLE
12-01-2005, 10:53 PM
it doens't matter pnoy, this is a lost cause. Magneto can destroy all their weapons easily. End of fight.

Gooba
12-02-2005, 12:03 AM
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3908/wolvieair21sg.jpgone of the million images of Wolverine cutting up a net that is supposed to be holding himhttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8785/wolvieranged16xo.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7834/wolvieranged25hi.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5049/wolvieranged31vk.jpg

I know these aren't perfect counters, but my point is that Wolverine, a very low power level superhero, could make a good dent in the Warcraft universe, so imagine what people thousands of times stronger than him will do.

RAGING BONER
12-02-2005, 03:14 AM
ok...there are what? 4 maybe 5 armies in Warcraft?

Humans, Horde, Night elves, the Scourge...

maybe you should pick 4 or 5 heroes to do battle with them...and make it low powered heroes because some of the higher ups (Pheonix, Magneto, Sentry, Jesus cable...the list goes on) can probably do it alone without much trouble.

I'd say wolverine can take out the Horde Solo...give him a few days.

Dr. Strange sends burning legions back to the lower planes everyday before breakfast.

The Punisher can probably kill every human on Azeroth if you give him enough ammo to do it...and he's just a street cop.

The Scourge? there is a mutant, several in fact, who control the dead...

maybe the Starcraft universe would be more challenging?

Tousenz
12-02-2005, 03:33 AM
No way Wolverine solos the Horde.

These arent the orcs from Lotr, each of them have specific classes unless you meant peons.

They can summon wolves to there aid more than one of them can command lightening. Not to mention Thrall and Grom beat Mannoroth and they are just 2 of many.

The warcraft side is being severely underrated. But no they cannot take on Marvel as a whole but Im pretty sure they would wtfpwn Wolverine.

Yami no Takeshi
12-02-2005, 03:52 AM
Marvel easily.
All we have to do is basicly dump either Hulk or Thor in then we can sit back and watch them go smashy-smashy.

Spacey
12-02-2005, 03:56 AM
Okay as a real warcraft-lore fan.. There are several things that you have to take in to consideration in this battle number 1

Are the Titans involved?
Were Sargeras alive?
Were the old gods alive?
Is Elune involved?
Were Malorne alive?
Were Cenarius alive?
Were Mannoroth alive?
Were the Quel'Dorei alive?
Was all the mages of Kirin'Tor alive?
Are the dragons involved?
Are all the demigods alive?

All these questions have an significant importance regarding the outcome of the battle..

Lucifer
12-02-2005, 04:19 AM
I don't think, Wolverine can't solo to Warcraft Universe...........

I'd say Marvel Heroes >>> Warcraft Universe.........

hjkou
12-02-2005, 04:59 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't even Wolverine be able to take them all out, and if not, the Hulk, SS, Iron Man, Prof X, or hundreds others would be able to solo it.

wolverine would get taken down by alot of the spells wc3 has, especially some of the higher tier ones like finger of death.. which in the game does a shitload of damage, but its concept is pretty much instant kill

ss, prof x would easily take them solo.. hulk, depends.. im pretty sure like wolv, a combination of binding spells then a death and decay would coon him up a bit.
but yeah, a shitload of marvels would be able to own them..

Spacey
12-02-2005, 05:14 AM
Well as I said earlier depends on wich Wc characters that are involved

Arilou
12-02-2005, 07:29 AM
Essentially:

If the Titans and other "primal forces" are involved that means the MU can bring Galactus and his pals to bear. Would be a nasty cosmic slugfest. (Archimonde vs. Mephisto, come on, you know you'd love it!)

If the more low-powered "demigods" are involved (Mannoroth, Cenarius) than that mean we could bring in Silver Surfer and similarily powered beings.

If we are restricted to "normal" units and heroes.... I'd cap it somewhere below Magneto & Prof. X (so both of them are out)

I *still* think the MU would win though. But it'd be a nasty fight.

Actually what would happen is that the good guys would fight a while, realize they are both good guys, and then together kick the ass of the undead.

ydraliskos
12-02-2005, 09:35 AM
No way Wolverine solos the Horde.

These arent the orcs from Lotr, each of them have specific classes unless you meant peons.

They can summon wolves to there aid more than one of them can command lightening. Not to mention Thrall and Grom beat Mannoroth and they are just 2 of many.

The warcraft side is being severely underrated. But no they cannot take on Marvel as a whole but Im pretty sure they would wtfpwn Wolverine.

Beyonder man, just let it go. I like the horde as much as you do, but in the end, they are not super heroes.

A huge ass tauren with a tree as a hammer in the end is just as strong as his muscles, gravity, and forces of physics will allow him. Probably physically weaker than every NON-strength marvel hero out there. Wolverine is tied to no such limitations. And he has crazy regen.

Spacey
12-02-2005, 11:08 AM
Essentially:

If the Titans and other "primal forces" are involved that means the MU can bring Galactus and his pals to bear. Would be a nasty cosmic slugfest. (Archimonde vs. Mephisto, come on, you know you'd love it!)

If the more low-powered "demigods" are involved (Mannoroth, Cenarius) than that mean we could bring in Silver Surfer and similarily powered beings.

If we are restricted to "normal" units and heroes.... I'd cap it somewhere below Magneto & Prof. X (so both of them are out)

I *still* think the MU would win though. But it'd be a nasty fight.

Actually what would happen is that the good guys would fight a while, realize they are both good guys, and then together kick the ass of the undead.

Yeah probably they'd join togheter to fight.. If I have to say something then it depends I mean if the Earthmother is involved then she can just like remove all of them from exsistence.. But if there's only Titans allowed then I think MU might take this

CrazyMoronX
12-02-2005, 11:15 AM
Ehhh.... every Marvel hero? That's a bit rediculous.

I'm sure Hulk could take them all on alone... Silver Surfer would fart and end the entire battle... and Cable would just explode everyone.

Not a very fair battle.

Spacey
12-02-2005, 11:22 AM
Well that really depends if we're limited to all mortals from WC universe only... If that's the deal then I'll definately give this to MU

Spacey
12-03-2005, 08:07 AM
But then again that wouldn't even be a fair battle

Yamato
12-03-2005, 08:28 AM
It's also quite possible that Jugernaut or Hulk alone would be enough. Every two alpha or omega level mutants will not break a sweat while dealing with a horde of Warcraft creatures.

Chamcham Trigger
12-03-2005, 08:29 AM
Uhhhh can't some of the superheroes (non cosmic as well), manipulate reality to their will?

Spacey
12-03-2005, 05:02 PM
Yes.... There are some WC characters that can do that too

Fenix
12-04-2005, 05:37 AM
what is this, some of you have no knowledge of the WC lore

jeez

but i do agree if its all out both sides marvel will probbaly win just because the comic book market isnt as big anymore so the company is going out of their way to create stupidly powerful stuff to keep fans interested

and damn, not to be mean or anything, Spacey you completly switched the roles of "was" and "were"

Arilou
12-04-2005, 08:29 AM
Actually most of the "stupidly powerful" stuff was created 10-20 years ago. Galactus first appeared sometime in the 60's. Eternity too.


Heck, most of the Marvel Cosmics where in place at least 20 years ago.

Spacey
12-04-2005, 09:48 AM
Point is that including the Earthmother would be unfair... But including Thanos and those other cosmics is also unfair..

BattousaiMS
12-04-2005, 10:20 AM
Having Mu or Earth Mother wouldn't help much against people like SS, Galactus and other cosmic beans since well all they gotta do is blow the damn planet up and bye bye WC. To be fair I would say put all X-men against WC world and see that should be more fair. You really can't bring in ppl like Hulk, Thor or SS those guys would simply blow the shit out of the WC world on their own.

Spacey
12-04-2005, 10:27 AM
Earthmother isn't a part of the earth you see... She controls EVERYTHING... If she wanted she could wipe them out of exsistence just like that... But of course she wouldn't unless she felt that Azeroth was threatened

BattousaiMS
12-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Earthmother isn't a part of the earth you see... She controls EVERYTHING... If she wanted she could wipe them out of exsistence just like that... But of course she wouldn't unless she felt that Azeroth was threatened

Galactus is the devarorer of planet and galaxies I hardly thing earthmother can do anything against him as he said himself. This universe begame with him and it and will end with him and it.

CABLE
12-04-2005, 02:52 PM
How is this still being debated? If a non-omega level mutant could destroy a hole army of the enemy, how will the rest fair with a whole team of omega level mutants?

Arilou
12-04-2005, 08:24 PM
Earthmother isn't a part of the earth you see... She controls EVERYTHING... If she wanted she could wipe them out of exsistence just like that... But of course she wouldn't unless she felt that Azeroth was threatened

Meet Eternity:
http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/gallery/nexus/etenity1.gif

Eternity is the Embodiment of All There Is, essentially he/she *is* the universe.

Essentially, we have to restrict this somehow.

Do we allow the Earthmother, Titans and various "Warcraft Cosmics"? Fine. Then they can fight Eternity, Infinity, the Living Tribunal and similar people.

Though it would develop into a kind of "irresistable force meets immovable object" kind of thing.

pnoypridz
12-04-2005, 08:25 PM
Meet Eternity:
http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/gallery/nexus/etenity1.gif

Eternity is the Embodiment of All There Is, essentially he/she *is* the universe.

thats a cosmic being ... i only said Marvel Heroes..

Arilou
12-04-2005, 08:29 PM
thats a cosmic being ... i only said Marvel Heroes..

Yes, and so is the Earthmother, Sargeras, and possibly some of the more powerful dragons. (that seem to depend though, it seems in some pieces of WC fiction the Great dragons are just pretty strong monsters, in others they basically shape reality)

Fenix
12-05-2005, 01:46 AM
The 5 Great Aspects of the Dragon flights are pieces of reality themselves. The problem with this is that the Warcraft universe was never defined as the world as we see it: Planets, space, sun, revolution around the sun, etc, etc.

Two different realities/universe/world with completely different rules, it's pretty messed up to try and compare.

Not excatly a fair battle

The Titans were world builders, they shaped countless worlds and brought beings to life with their power. Sargeras was chosen as the Titan's Champion to fight those who were aganist the Titans agenda, but Sargeras went nuts and became a renagade. He later recruited the demons/beings he had imprsioned earlier and started a crusade to destroy all known worlds.

The Old Gods were ancient rulers of the world of Azeroth. Which is where the story of WC take place. Azeroth was reshaped by the Titans after the Titans zerged the Old Gods and their Elemental servants, and banished them. The Titans high council created the 5 Dragon Aspects, rulers of their respective flights, and each remaining member of the council imbued the Aspects with a small portion of their power.

There was said to be 5 Old Gods, each far more powerful than a single Titan 1on1. One was slain, one was converted while the other 3 were banished. Some of the lore is messed up about how many Old Gods there were...so it's kind weird.

There were also five Elemental Generals who served the olds gods and were tied to the chaotic reality of Azeroth before the Titans coming. Therazen the Stonemother was one of these elementals, and it was speculated that she might be the Earthmother the taurens refer to.

Zzzzzz....you know what you can find the rest on the lore page on worldofwarcraft.com -_-

Either way, the WC universe is alot more "balanced" than Marvel. Not a good battle

Spacey
12-05-2005, 04:03 AM
Basicly the titants imbued a very little piece of their power in to each leader of the dragon aspects.. But even though it's just a little little bit it's extremely much in earth scale.

Also known as the Great Aspects, the Titans chose each of the Dragon Aspects to lead the Dragonflights and watch over ancient Kalimdor (at the time, the sole continent of Azeroth.

The mighty Titans created the five Aspects and gave them their power.

The Aspects are also known as the leaders of the five dragonflights, red, brown (now black), green, blue and bronze.

The Dragon Aspects
Nozdormu, the Timeless One.
The massive bronze dragon chosen by Aman'Thul to guard time itself and police the ever-spinning pathways of fate and destiny.
Alexstrasza, the Life-Binder.
The red leviathan chosen by Eonar to safeguard all living creatures within the world.
Ysera, the Dreamer.
The lithe green dragon and Alexstrasza's younger sister chosen by Eonar to watch over the growing wilds of the world from her verdant realm, the Emerald Dream.
Malygos, the Spell-Weaver.
The blue dragon chosen by Norgannon as the guardian of magic and hidden arcanum.
Neltharion, the Earth-Warder.
The mighty black wyrm chosen by Khaz'goroth and given dominion over the earth and the deep places of the world


As far as the strenght of the titans is concerned it is beyond this world at least... But they have their limits it took them alot of losses to banish the old gods finally.

Umm about the earthmother alot is not known but we can SAFELY assume that her powers are limitless

Arilou
12-05-2005, 04:32 AM
Essentially, it either comes down to a cosmic vs. cosmic battle (and those can never be resolved because it becomes a matter of two invincible forces colliding) or we have a noncosmic vs. noncosmic battle in which the MU *probably* has an advantage.... (Recall that the MU has their own demons, their own magical entities, *and* alien races with spaceships to boot)

Spacey
12-05-2005, 05:44 AM
Essentially, it either comes down to a cosmic vs. cosmic battle (and those can never be resolved because it becomes a matter of two invincible forces colliding) or we have a noncosmic vs. noncosmic battle in which the MU *probably* has an advantage.... (Recall that the MU has their own demons, their own magical entities, *and* alien races with spaceships to boot)

Yeah well you gotta draw a line somewhere.. What definens a cosmic? Are the demigods defined as cosmics.. Are the great dragons defined as cosmics?

EonNinja
12-05-2005, 08:35 PM
Warcraft
never played it but a whole universe.....thats big

Arilou
12-06-2005, 03:18 AM
Yeah well you gotta draw a line somewhere.. What definens a cosmic? Are the demigods defined as cosmics.. Are the great dragons defined as cosmics?

Anything equal to or above Silver Surfer is a cosmic :p

Or you can use the definition that if you have complete dominion over any one aspect of reality (or reality as a whole) that is a cosmic.

At this point I'd define the Great Dragons as cosmics, but didn't some pretty "normal" heroes kill one of them?

Spacey
12-06-2005, 03:56 AM
Anything equal to or above Silver Surfer is a cosmic :p

Or you can use the definition that if you have complete dominion over any one aspect of reality (or reality as a whole) that is a cosmic.

At this point I'd define the Great Dragons as cosmics, but didn't some pretty "normal" heroes kill one of them?

All dragons are alive... Including Neltharion however he has went in to hiding

The Space Cowboy
12-06-2005, 04:24 AM
Marvel wins this one, easily. They're just simply too big in terms of character power.

1) The Infinity Watch, of which Thanos is a member
2) Player characters in WoW can't be considered Canon.

On it's noncosmic scale, Marvel has the Norse, Greek, and Egyptian Pantheons.
Marvel has weapons of mass destruction (Tony Stark anyone?). They have giant mecha that break things and kill people. In other words, the Warcraft Universe is simply unmatched.

Some Marvel heroes can time travel.
Others can cause Tsunamis (Sub Mariner).

Dr. Strange can slug it out with the Dread Dormmamu and win (To grasp how significant this is, Dormamu once attacked...Eternity himself).

The Surfer for instance, is so durable as to fly through a collapsing black hole.

In other words, this would be a ten way buttwhooping for Warcraft. They're simply outmatched. And by the way, guns are generally a better weapon then bows & arrows.

Spacey
12-06-2005, 05:55 AM
Marvel wins this one, easily. They're just simply too big in terms of character power.

1) The Infinity Watch, of which Thanos is a member
2) Player characters in WoW can't be considered Canon.

On it's noncosmic scale, Marvel has the Norse, Greek, and Egyptian Pantheons.
Marvel has weapons of mass destruction (Tony Stark anyone?). They have giant mecha that break things and kill people. In other words, the Warcraft Universe is simply unmatched.

Some Marvel heroes can time travel.
Others can cause Tsunamis (Sub Mariner).

Dr. Strange can slug it out with the Dread Dormmamu and win (To grasp how significant this is, Dormamu once attacked...Eternity himself).

The Surfer for instance, is so durable as to fly through a collapsing black hole.

In other words, this would be a ten way buttwhooping for Warcraft. They're simply outmatched. And by the way, guns are generally a better weapon then bows & arrows.


Another great example of one that has no clue of what the warcraft universe is able to do... Besides bows and axes:tem

Fenix
12-07-2005, 02:48 AM
Marvel wins this one, easily. They're just simply too big in terms of character power.

1) The Infinity Watch, of which Thanos is a member
2) Player characters in WoW can't be considered Canon.

On it's noncosmic scale, Marvel has the Norse, Greek, and Egyptian Pantheons.
Marvel has weapons of mass destruction (Tony Stark anyone?). They have giant mecha that break things and kill people. In other words, the Warcraft Universe is simply unmatched.

Some Marvel heroes can time travel.
Others can cause Tsunamis (Sub Mariner).

Dr. Strange can slug it out with the Dread Dormmamu and win (To grasp how significant this is, Dormamu once attacked...Eternity himself).

The Surfer for instance, is so durable as to fly through a collapsing black hole.

In other words, this would be a ten way buttwhooping for Warcraft. They're simply outmatched. And by the way, guns are generally a better weapon then bows & arrows.

i only see you talking about the marvel guy

zzz

Spacey
12-07-2005, 04:24 AM
I think the author of the topic said NO COSMICS

Arilou
12-07-2005, 07:35 AM
Then that means no cosmics for the WC universe either.... In any case Marvel wins by virtue of being larger and having more oddball stuff to throw into the fight.

Spacey
12-07-2005, 10:53 AM
Hmm.. I dunno if the dragons are then the chances for WC are greatly increased... If they co-operate enough with the demigods and the eredars then they should at least give alot of resistance.. And they might even be able to tire out the enemy by continuing to send minions of the Burning Legion since they are infinite...

Arilou
12-07-2005, 11:18 AM
So are Mephisto's minions (whose names I can't remember) Not to mention the Mindless Ones.

Spacey
12-07-2005, 11:22 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Mephisto a cosmic?

Arilou
12-07-2005, 11:43 AM
Mephisto is, his minions are not.

Otherwise the Burning Legion would be out as well, no?

Spacey
12-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Hmm yes I guess so... The point is that if the WC universe best characters co-operate well enough and lay up a good plan they might actually have a good chance for a draw at least. Nozordumu's time manipulation would definately be of good use in the fight. As well as all the dragons abilites

Arilou
12-07-2005, 01:40 PM
Dr. Doom has a time-machine. It'd probably end up in a paradox somehow :p

Spacey
12-07-2005, 04:18 PM
Yes a time-machine but Nozordomu controls time itself

RealaMoreno
12-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Ahem...one word...Onslaught. (nod nod)

Spacey
12-07-2005, 04:24 PM
Ahem...one word...Onslaught. (nod nod)

Isn't that guy considered a cosmic?

Arilou
12-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Yes a time-machine but Nozordomu controls time itself

Which would make him a cosmic.
The Marvel Universe has an equivalent being btw. (whose name I can't remember at the moment) Though I don't think he has claws.

Spacey
12-08-2005, 11:41 AM
Bah, without the dragons then I'll give this to MU

Luckey
12-08-2005, 12:14 PM
Spectre or the Tribunal think warcraft out of existence.

Fenix
12-08-2005, 09:20 PM
First of all

No cosmics

Second of all

I have always treated these cosmics only being cosmics in their own story. I mean, yes I know "he controls all", etc, etc, etc all that crap, but it's pretty dumb to apply those power to everything. There's no point

So yea...

To sum up...non cosmics

Warcraft have

-the world of Azeroth and all its residents minus the Aspects, but the rest of the dragons are allowed.

- Burning Legion including Sargeras, since if you read the books it is shown that he can be wounded by physical attacks.

- Orc's old homeworld of Dreanor and all its residents, which include some pretty fked up stuff btw.

-Undead army and the new Lich King Arthas

-The Nightmare (dont know what excatly it is yet) that currently is plaguing the Emerald Dream

- Cant reemmber the rest...

-No Titans, since they create worlds and all that.


Vs.

The Marvel HEROES

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i dont know, i dont know that much about marvels tbh. like i said no cosmics it's pretty random and debatable. btw if you read deep into the story, quite a few of the Cosmics in WC, despite holding insane offensive powers, are able to be damaged by physical attacks. so i wouldnt call them cosmics really

Arilou
12-09-2005, 03:40 AM
Okay, if the standard is "can be harmed by physical attacks" I think I can do a pretty good scheme.

It'd be a good fight, but i *think* Marvel would take it, there are enough people lik Magneto, Professor X, etc. etc. to kick some major ass.

Spacey
12-09-2005, 04:14 AM
Well I guess the Banshees would be able to posses a couple of heroes and use them to their advantage.. I dunno exactly how powerfull WC magic is but I know it can bring the dead back to life and so.. So I guess it would be a quite tough fight.

The Aspects can be hurt but it's just not very easy..

Arilou
12-09-2005, 05:42 AM
Possession isn't too troublesome. The MU has enough mystics to deal with that.

Spacey
12-09-2005, 11:10 AM
Yeah but the Banshees are quite many.. So I guess they would manage to AT LEAST posses 10-20 heroes

EvilMoogle
12-09-2005, 12:34 PM
Well, since we're talking armies fighting here this is the scenerio I'd envision:

The Marvel Hero group dropped in a fairly uninhabited section of the Warcraft world (or drop everyone in camps to a new unpopulated world). We're talking large army movements so this seems to make the most sense.

It would be trivial for Dr. Strange to ward the Marvel base against undead movements and creatures of the lower planes. That takes out major chunks of the Warcraft offense.

Someone like Storm could take out the majority of all the Warcraft armies without ever leaving "base". And the Human and Orc armies that could attack "base" wouldn't have anything to match Colossus and the Thing and Wolverine (let alone say, The Hulk) and the other powerhouses. Especially with Marvel magicians backing them up.

Or the Scarlet Witch turns all the orcs into Pumpkins, who knows?

Spacey
12-09-2005, 03:20 PM
Yes now you are only counting in WC armies... I doubt Storm has any control of elemental force even CLOSE to compared to some of the shamans.

EvilMoogle
12-09-2005, 06:04 PM
Yes now you are only counting in WC armies... I doubt Storm has any control of elemental force even CLOSE to compared to some of the shamans.
I'll freely admit my knowledge of Warcraft is limited to the games. Storm can create hurricanes if she wants to or loses control which can affect continents. From the game I've never seen a warcraft unit affect more than about a 20m radius with a spell. Give me some feats from the Warcraft comics/lore and we'll see.

The main problem I think we'll run into is there are only a fairly small number of Warcraft hero's that can do unique/powerful things. There are hundreds of Marvel Hero's that are unique.

Fenix
12-09-2005, 06:12 PM
I'll freely admit my knowledge of Warcraft is limited to the games. Storm can create hurricanes if she wants to or loses control which can affect continents. From the game I've never seen a warcraft unit affect more than about a 20m radius with a spell. Give me some feats from the Warcraft comics/lore and we'll see.

The main problem I think we'll run into is there are only a fairly small number of Warcraft hero's that can do unique/powerful things. There are hundreds of Marvel Hero's that are unique.


Hmm, so you first admit you dont have any deep knowledge of WC and everything you know is based on the games...Then you say you see a "main problem"...

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EvilMoogle
12-09-2005, 06:27 PM
Hmm, so you first admit you dont have any deep knowledge of WC and everything you know is based on the games...Then you say you see a "main problem"...

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Well, how about correcting me instead of simply pointing out my lack of knowledge? I mean, maybe that would add to the discussion. I've already admitted that I have little knowledge of Warcraft, I'm asking you to fill in that side.

In the games, there's a handful (I'd guess around 30 but maybe as many as 50) of named characters that show abilities beyond the normal units. Even if we assume that one Warcraft "hero" cancles out one Marvel "hero" Marvel still has a huge number of characters left over to slaughter the nameless masses.

We'll start small. Wolverine seems to me to be able to take on the entire Night Elf race given enough time (they don't seem to have any weapons to stop him).

Collossus seems to be able to take on the entire Orc legion by himself given enough time (they also don't seem to have any weapons that can hurt him).

I'll admit these seem to be rather infintile strategies and assume that Warcraft won't do anything too crafty, but this is where you can point things out for me.

Spacey
12-09-2005, 07:24 PM
Well it's hard to say WC's more powerfull heroes are probably Aegwynn, Medivh, all demigods, Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde and of course the dragons.. Umm the dragons have all each been blessed with a bit of the powers of the titans.

Umm, it's generally quite hard to explain each individuals powers I recommend that you try to read up on the lore, WoWwiki.com might be a good site for that or try to read from the novells.

Arilou
12-09-2005, 07:34 PM
Just a point:

As of his latest series. Thanos is a hero.


Chew on that for a moment. Then weep.

And it should be noted that Thanos' physical might is probably not that impressive, but with his mind.... Well, let's just say he's a master manipulator.

Heck, Forge could probably be quite destructive in his own right if put to use correctly.

Spacey
12-10-2005, 05:50 AM
Once again, I don't read comics.....