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Id
11-30-2005, 08:30 PM
No prep just to of these lock in a sleaded room were only one can come out a winner. Who would win.
And yes this is Logan with Adamantium.

Valdens
11-30-2005, 10:30 PM
wow, i thought "this is a pretty unfair matchup for logan" then i remembered the adamantium. the adamantium just about evens this match up, but im pretty sure that 90% brain capacity and weapons beat claws and and unbreakable skeleton. deathstroke either:
A. Snaps logans neck
B. uses bombs to blow him up
C. beats him into submission.
i mean, he took out the flash, so speed is no real problem for him. i think he would go straight for the neck snapping. and oh ya
D. beats him into sumbission, snaps his neck, and sticks a bomb up his throat and , tee hee, anus. winner:Deathstroke

Neon
11-30-2005, 10:42 PM
Slade beat a group of JLA elites all at once, INCLUDING THE FLASH!

So yea he wins this

pnoypridz
11-30-2005, 10:45 PM
if their lock in a room nobody is better at fighting in a small space than wolverine

but slade is freaking awesome so i think wolverine 7/10

Gooba
11-30-2005, 10:46 PM
I don't know Slade nearly well enough (haven't read 1 comic with him in it).

I am under the impression that he is just a normal human, who comes back from the dead, and is a prep time god, right? I just want to know how he beat the JLA, if the Flash ever used his power to 1/1000th of its potential then almost nobody could beat him (same for Supes). All the speedsters are dumbasses, like Supes got shot by a kryptonite bullet, despite the fact that he saw the gun, even though he could have run away from it fast enough to circle the earth and knock it down from the other side, or just sidestep it easily. [/rant]

If Deathstroke is just a normal human, without prep, but with weapons, I'll lean towards Logan, if he has any powers or prep, then I think he will win. I don't know nearly enough about him to be decisive.

organizedcrime
11-30-2005, 10:55 PM
I think Deathstroke is just a reg human, lemme look it up.

edit: Deathstroke, army experiements, super healing, crack shot or swordsmen, I don't recall, and something about fighting dirty. I assume he's good with weapons.

CABLE
11-30-2005, 10:58 PM
When did Wolvie not have admantanium?

Gooba
11-30-2005, 11:01 PM
Magneto ripped it out so he didn't have it for a few years until he became one of Apoc's horsemen.

RAGING BONER
11-30-2005, 11:10 PM
This can go either way...but if it comes down to a brawl i'd give it to Wolverine due to his sheer persistence, willingness to have his body put through a blender, and the fact that he's nearly immortal.
ofcourse, Deathstroke will put his ass through the wringer before then, but comic book battles ALWAYS come down to hand to hand combat in the end.

Neon
11-30-2005, 11:16 PM
I don't know Slade nearly well enough (haven't read 1 comic with him in it).

I am under the impression that he is just a normal human, who comes back from the dead, and is a prep time god, right? I just want to know how he beat the JLA, if the Flash ever used his power to 1/1000th of its potential then almost nobody could beat him (same for Supes). All the speedsters are dumbasses, like Supes got shot by a kryptonite bullet, despite the fact that he saw the gun, even though he could have run away from it fast enough to circle the earth and knock it down from the other side, or just sidestep it easily. [/rant]

If Deathstroke is just a normal human, without prep, but with weapons, I'll lean towards Logan, if he has any powers or prep, then I think he will win. I don't know nearly enough about him to be decisive.

Slade can use 90% of his brain capacity, the average human uses around 9% i think.

And slade beat the flash by placing small bombs all around himself right where he knew the flash would charge him, then he placed the pointy end of his sword in the one place where there were no bombs so flash ran right into the sword.

Gooba
11-30-2005, 11:25 PM
And slade beat the flash by placing small bombs all around himself right where he knew the flash would charge him, then he placed the pointy end of his sword in the one place where there were no bombs so flash ran right into the sword.A) If someone with half a brain was the Flash, that wouldn't have worked on them. B) That doesn't show he can engage someone as fast as the Flash in fisticuffs, so Wolvie's speed can't just be ignored. Not that he is even close to the Flash, I am just saying "Slade beat the Flash, therefore speed isn't an issue." isn't valid.

Seeing as Slade is just a man with weapons, I give it to Wolvie.

Yami no Takeshi
11-30-2005, 11:41 PM
Agree with Gobba.
Any idiots could have tricked Flash (now i love Wally but the boy is as thick as a brick), so speed still plays a part.
Wolvie would just keep going and going and going........
Well u get my point.

Thanos
11-30-2005, 11:51 PM
Wolverine definetly has an advantage in terms of durability. But remember Slade also has a rapid healing factor (which makes him immortal), and is just as skilled if not more so than wolverine in hand to hand combat. Slade is also many many magnitudes above wolverine in terms of smarts. With preptime, slade wins it no problem. However since this is without it, I can see wolverine pulling out only because of his durability. Even with out the prep, Slade still has a good chance of winning.

HollowDreamer
12-01-2005, 12:25 AM
I gotta say Slade would win.

Green Lantern
12-01-2005, 01:38 AM
Slade is fricking awesome, more so then wolverine

Calling him a man with weapons is degrading :P

He has been compared to Batman in terms of prep, and in addition to that, he has enhanced healing, strength, vision and reflexes. In battle, his tactics are amazing, and he is capable of taking out multiple people at once

I agree that stabbing the Flash was quite stupid, however what is impressive is that he fought and disabled Zantanna, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Hawkman, the Atom and Elongated Man at the same time. (Note: These heroes are all extremely strong individually, and yet he still managed to disable most of their strengths). He was in the process of crushing GL Kyle Rayner's hand, when he got stabbed in the eye by Hawkeye, and then tackled by everyone, but in spite of this, he managed to escape

I'd like to see Wolverine try and take down so many metahumans of that calibre all at once, and not get owned in the first hit by the Flash :P

He is smart, and he is deadly, and he is one of the few fighters, who does not really need preptime, but can plan as he goes.

IMO Deathstroke>Wolverine in Hand to hand, strength, reflexes
However Wolverine<Deathstroke in durability (admantium etc)
However Deathstroke=Wolverine in healing (possibly?)

(Gooba: Manga Cult has Identity Crisis for some awesome Deathstroke ownage (NOTE: he lost the fight, but he still managed to woop all of their collective asses))

Tousenz
12-01-2005, 02:44 AM
But isnt Slade the villain in teen Titans...?

And loses....alot?

Id
12-01-2005, 12:12 PM
But isnt Slade the villain in teen Titans...?

And loses....alot?


Yeah it contridicts his previous uberness.

I still say wolverine in brawl owns this.:cool

korican04
12-01-2005, 12:23 PM
Slade isn't just a regular human, that's like calling captain america or deadpool a regular human.
Deathstroke was created from some army experiments. Deadpool in marvel comcis was created later, kind of their version of deathstroke, (deathstroke's name is slade wilson vs deadpool is wade wilson). Same powers except slade is a better sniper and about 1000 times smarter. He also has enhanced reflexes and strength. Just think of a pumped up version of deadpool with a mind like batman in terms of fighting and strategizing. That's what deathstroke is, not just a smart guy with weapons.

In a brawl enclosed in a room wolverine takes this. In an open space where deathstroke can plan and use the environment, deathstroke takes it.

Scared Link
12-01-2005, 01:07 PM
Slade was respected as a god; however he nearly got his ass kicked by Raven. Wolverine's mutant ability, which is healing (no his aluminum claws are not his mutant ability, you n00b’s), will come in handy. I remember in one issue Wolverine and Spidey swap bodies, when Peter was in High School. He used his claws and it went through his arms, but it healed within a few seconds. Slade is praised as a god and did do hand to hand combat with Robin. So I will go with Slade, the Titans and Justice League’s greatest enemy...

chakra25
12-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Agree... In a locked room and no prep time, Slade will pretty much lose in the end. This is more of Wolverine kind of fight... a fight till the end. Wolverine is definitely more durable with his healing factor and adamantium skeleton.

Gooba
12-01-2005, 02:09 PM
(no his aluminum claws are not his mutant ability, you n00b’s)Yes, they are.

Tousenz
12-01-2005, 02:56 PM
Yeah He had his claws before the transplant.


I dont know the names of these series but it was revealed when Magneto took out his adamantium he went feral and still had his claws.

HOKAGEKYZRE
12-01-2005, 04:03 PM
some say that the bone grew into the adamantium...and in a few comics it shows him pre-X and his claws are missing...but hey im not sure what the "real" story is...and origins is total bs and i refuse to think that is the real story...DIE ORIGINS!!!

Id
12-01-2005, 04:49 PM
Hey Gooba why dont you post some scans were Wolverine pawns the hell out of ppl?

Gooba
12-02-2005, 11:13 AM
(Gooba: Manga Cult has Identity Crisis for some awesome Deathstroke ownage (NOTE: he lost the fight, but he still managed to woop all of their collective asses))That fight was complete and utter crap. He beats GL because GL decides to throw a punch like a regular human. He beats the Flash because Wally chooses to run and react at the speed of a regular human. Basicly, that fight was Slade vs 5 normal human beings and one tiny human who is even weaker, and I can post tons of scans of Logan taking out groups of normal people ten times as large as that.

Slade vs 5 humans is nothing impressive, just because those humans could be superpowered if they wanted to doesn't mean jack if they choose to be normal while fighting him.

Jef88
12-02-2005, 12:07 PM
what does the slade do with the other 80% he uses?
sleep better :oh
wolvie wins for my part he has dealed with smart and skilled people befor
and the room (limited movement) makes it alot easier for wolvie :amuse

Gooba
12-02-2005, 12:25 PM
Also, I would like to point out that Slade uses 10% less of his brain than Wolverine. Apparently everyone in DC is 1/10th as smart as the Marvel and real universes, and Slade is just 9 times as smart as those morons.

ID, do you want some scans of more impressive fights than Slade vs the JLA? I think just about every single fight I have ever seen Wolvie in is more impressive, so I can get you some fast.

Jef88
12-02-2005, 01:23 PM
Also, I would like to point out that Slade uses 10% less of his brain than Wolverine. Apparently everyone in DC is 1/10th as smart as the Marvel and real universes, and Slade is just 9 times as smart as those morons.

ID, do you want some scans of more impressive fights than Slade vs the JLA? I think just about every single fight I have ever seen Wolvie in is more impressive, so I can get you some fast.
indeed wolvies fights rule there very impressive to me:amuse
wolvie just plain rocks and if you dont think so he prolly kills you are you are allready dead :oh

haha gotta love the DC - marvel thingy you said XD

korican04
12-02-2005, 02:22 PM
Also, I would like to point out that Slade uses 10% less of his brain than Wolverine. Apparently everyone in DC is 1/10th as smart as the Marvel and real universes, and Slade is just 9 times as smart as those morons.

ID, do you want some scans of more impressive fights than Slade vs the JLA? I think just about every single fight I have ever seen Wolvie in is more impressive, so I can get you some fast.
Or you can see it as dc characters only need to use 1/10th of their brains to be as smart as the marvel universe. There are some marvel people that you can say are just retards. Slade can see molecules if he tries hard enough, how many regular people in marvel can do that.
I can also post many scans of wolverine not doing so well against his foes. One time he got f*****d up by some werewolves. Angel did better than wolverine against them! Angel! angel sucks! But i'll pick wolvie over slade in this enclosed room brawl.

Tousenz
12-02-2005, 02:31 PM
haha you mean when they was in Lobo Company or something along with Husk.


Thats *like the only real comic I ever bought.

Id
12-02-2005, 02:49 PM
Also, I would like to point out that Slade uses 10% less of his brain than Wolverine. Apparently everyone in DC is 1/10th as smart as the Marvel and real universes, and Slade is just 9 times as smart as those morons.

ID, do you want some scans of more impressive fights than Slade vs the JLA? I think just about every single fight I have ever seen Wolvie in is more impressive, so I can get you some fast.


How about similar cara like slade in a sense where Logan just pawns them utterly.

Thier is to much hype about Slade. Lets bring it down.

Cthulhu-versailles
12-02-2005, 02:56 PM
If slade has preptime wolverine losses horribly.

Slade without losses.

Slade has superstrength, speed, reflexs and healing. His healing is not as good as wolverine though, and I've yet to see him take shotgun shells to the head and laugh.

Wolverine will take damage but in the end push his adamantium claws into slade's heart and tear it out. It won't be easy, because I estimate slade is faster and stronger, but wolverine is simply more badass in close quarters. Because Most attacks are simply useless (he'll take them while laughing and just stab ya)

Wolverine wins.

And yes I've read identity crisis and the teen titans series.

Gooba
12-02-2005, 03:39 PM
I am tempted to do a Wolverine vs Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, Green Arrow, and the Magician. Here is how it would go down.

Wolverine puts out his claws.
Flash impales himself on the claws because he is a dumbass, and apparently runs into anything pointy he can find.
Wolverine disembowels Hawkman and the Magician because they don't bother to protect themselves.
Green Arrow goes down as soon as Wolverine focuses a few attacks on him.
Green Lantern tries to punch Wolverine, and is met with a counterpunch from Wolverine, with his claws out, and loses the ring as well as the hand it was attached to.

Wovlerine would have won that fight, and Slade eventually lost that fight and got his eye impaled (it was blind anyways, so much for healing).

korican04
12-02-2005, 04:12 PM
I am tempted to do a Wolverine vs Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, Green Arrow, and the Magician. Here is how it would go down.

Wolverine puts out his claws.
Flash impales himself on the claws because he is a dumbass, and apparently runs into anything pointy he can find.
Wolverine disembowels Hawkman and the Magician because they don't bother to protect themselves.
Green Arrow goes down as soon as Wolverine focuses a few attacks on him.
Green Lantern tries to punch Wolverine, and is met with a counterpunch from Wolverine, with his claws out, and loses the ring as well as the hand it was attached to.

Wovlerine would have won that fight, and Slade eventually lost that fight and got his eye impaled (it was blind anyways, so much for healing).
For the plot device in that story that's probably how it would go down.
If wolverine was in any one of those individual comics he would be beaten down. Remember in a comic that's not based on that individual, they are usually brought down, not just in power but common sense lol.
Just like how wolverine was shot in the back and that knocked him out, or like how he got tossed around like a rag doll by some wolves. It's not like wolverine has never done anything dumb. Really it's up to the writers and plot, that makes the heros act they way they do.

But yeah, that fight didn't really make any sense. Why would zatana do nothing against slade but as soon as she saw batman whose a member of the justice league, she would cast a spell. lol

Gooba
12-02-2005, 05:22 PM
For the plot device in that story that's probably how it would go down.
If wolverine was in any one of those individual comics he would be beaten down. Remember in a comic that's not based on that individual, they are usually brought down, not just in power but common sense lol.
Just like how wolverine was shot in the back and that knocked him out, or like how he got tossed around like a rag doll by some wolves. It's not like wolverine has never done anything dumb. Really it's up to the writers and plot, that makes the heros act they way they do.

But yeah, that fight didn't really make any sense. Why would zatana do nothing against slade but as soon as she saw batman whose a member of the justice league, she would cast a spell. lolAgreed, all the "prep time gods" are really "plot device whores"

BladeofTheChad
12-02-2005, 05:51 PM
Yes, in a normal fight(say in the plains) Flash would easily thrash Slade...

Gooba
12-02-2005, 06:10 PM
As would pretty much any superhero, as would they own Batman.

The fact that Slade pushed the button after the Flash started running is the stupidest part. In the time it takes the state machine inside the device to generate the signal to the bomb, plus the time it takes to send the signal through the air, plus the time it takes the bomb to process that signal and trigger the chemicals to explode, plus the time the chemicals actually need to explode, Wally could have grabbed Slade, punched him in the head 20 times, stripped him naked, and put him in a prison cell 4 towns over.

BladeofTheChad
12-02-2005, 06:13 PM
As would pretty much any superhero, as would they own Batman.

The fact that Slade pushed the button after the Flash started running is the stupidest part. In the time it takes the state machine inside the device to generate the signal to the bomb, plus the time it takes to send the signal through the air, plus the time it takes the bomb to process that signal and trigger the chemicals to explode, plus the time the chemicals actually need to explode, Wally could have grabbed Slade, punched him in the head 20 times, stripped him naked, and put him in a prison cell 4 towns over.


true dat...

korican04
12-03-2005, 12:42 AM
The dumbest though was green lantern. Instead of just blasting his opponent
or putting a box around them like he does every other time and to every single opponent he has ever faced, he decides to try to punch the one person that has a theory on how to fight the ring if he ever gets to hold it. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Ok taking green arrow and maybe hawk man i can see, although in every other fight hawkman is nuts, but everyone else.....plot device, so that dr. light can get his memory back.

Gooba
12-03-2005, 12:46 AM
At least Green Lantern only choose to ignore his powers. Flash choose to use his powers to kill himself. I mean, with the way he percieves time, he saw that sword was there for about an hour, and he still ran into it. One other thing, why was he chest-butting Slade? Wouldn't a punch or something be more effective?

Chamcham Trigger
12-03-2005, 08:52 AM
Magneto ripped it out so he didn't have it for a few years until he became one of Apoc's horsemen.
Ohhhh so that's how he got it back. But I thought he hated the Adamantium though, so why would he be willing to work for Apocalyps' team?
Anyway, hmmm if they don't have prep time, does this mean that Slade doesn't have time to prepare any weapons?:huh

link 2 oblivion
12-03-2005, 09:00 AM
Wolve, cause he cam rip his weapons and heal wounds.(in movie shown how)

Gooba
12-03-2005, 12:49 PM
Ohhhh so that's how he got it back. But I thought he hated the Adamantium though, so why would he be willing to work for Apocalyps' team?He does, but he is also a good guy, and figured it was better for him to be the horseman than Sabertooth (one of them was going to be).

Cthulhu-versailles
12-03-2005, 01:05 PM
As would pretty much any superhero, as would they own Batman.

The fact that Slade pushed the button after the Flash started running is the stupidest part. In the time it takes the state machine inside the device to generate the signal to the bomb, plus the time it takes to send the signal through the air, plus the time it takes the bomb to process that signal and trigger the chemicals to explode, plus the time the chemicals actually need to explode, Wally could have grabbed Slade, punched him in the head 20 times, stripped him naked, and put him in a prison cell 4 towns over.

yes the flash and green latern part where retarded. Actually so was the hawkman part, hawkman is insanely overpowered. In fact even green arrow should have been enough. Actually I don't think anyone used there powers in a realistic* way there.

However HOW DARE, HOW DARE YOU! batman would nto be owned by all superhero's, his preptime rarely makes other chars go through some sort of power retardation.-Flash aside, who is powered down in almost evey comic.

Batman preptime, surpasses the extent of of speed, or strength being a factor, Jla batman rapes the jla all 1000 thousand of them, with enough preptime.

Kichigai Kawaru
12-03-2005, 03:56 PM
Well, Deathstroke is pretty badass, but come on, it's Wolverine. The best at what he does? It would be like, Slade's winning by avoiding his techniques and kicking him in the face and crap and then, Wolvie catches his foot, throws him to the ground, and your imagination can fill in the rest. Suffice to say, Wolvie's got Slade beat hands-down.

Kichigai Kawaru
12-03-2005, 03:58 PM
Oh, btw, Batman has a contingency plan for EVERYTHING, so he can really not be beat.

Havoc
12-03-2005, 04:41 PM
Oh, btw, Batman has a contingency plan for EVERYTHING, so he can really not be beat.


Yes he can, what if Flash goes to the past and kills bruce when he's a baby.

RAGING BONER
12-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Ohhhh so that's how he got it back. But I thought he hated the Adamantium though, so why would he be willing to work for Apocalyps' team?
He didn't have a choice, few people can stand up to Apocalypse.

that being said, i think Apocalypse choosing wolverine as one of his horsemen (essentially one of his 4 luetenants, and in the same league as the Hulk who was WAR) speaks volumes of his ability to survive.

Apocalypse is the king of "survival of the fittest", i bet anything that Slade would be considered nothing more than a weak human in Apocalypse's eyes, at best a lowly servant.

acidzerox
12-07-2005, 02:46 AM
I think that Deathstroke stands the best chance. Logan for the life of him can't keep calm enough to beat someone like Deathstroke. They can both heal, both are masters at hand to hand but Deathstroke is just one level higher. Plus, all he'd have to do is shoot Wolverine with a trank dart. In the moment he as paralized he could go up and break his heart, pull out his eyes, and stab him in the heart. Then, just for kicks he'd burn the body adn keep the skeleton for a trophy. Don't get me wrong, Logan would put up one hell of a fight and there would be moment that Deathstroke might loose but in the end I think that Deathstroke would come out on top.