Monster Discussion Thread [Archive]

Shikamaru-sama

04-11-2005, 11:26 AM

So, dont know how many of you actually know this, but there will be a Monster (the greatest manga ever) Live Action made in America.

So me and my friend were talking about how shit it was going to be, and how the hell they were going to find someone faggy enough to play Johan, when we talked about other roles. This is what we came up with.

Kenzo Tenma - Tom Cruise
Inspector Lunge - Tom Hanks
Mr Grimmer - Jim Carey
Johan - Jude Law
Nina - Charlize Theron
Roberto - Bruce Willis
Eva - Ashley Judd

EDIT
Actually while browsing the web, we have just found out Monster is going to be turned into a movie by New Line Cinema :smile-big

which makes this thread have more of a point

cool!

Mindless

04-11-2005, 11:59 AM

One word: Awsome! :P

I haven't read the manga but the anime is really intense. I hope this turns out to be something good.

mow

04-11-2005, 12:07 PM

WHAT!!!!! MONSTER??? AS A MOVIE???

*huggles New Line Cinema*

do you realize what the magnitude of this event?? 20th century boys might be turned into a movie too!

My fanboy heart is quivering with ecsatsy atm.

and Shika-sama, your actors list is simpyl perfect, Jude law will make the best Johan and Tom Hanks will totally pull of the role Of inspector Lunge ( i can just picture him typing in the air):P. Superb cast, you should direct it :laugh

Shikamaru-sama

04-11-2005, 01:02 PM

yes moe-sama! yes i should!

the best thing about Jude Law as Johan was his accent. We all KNOW Johan has to have a british accent and a soft voice. He also looks like a girl which is handy.

another thought for lung was Samuel L Jackson because in the anime his voice makes him sound like a disgruntled black man :blink

but yeah, they might be able to do a 20cb, the article i read (which ive lost now :sad) said that they were impressed with Urasowa's works.

im worried about a movie though. I mean, how are they going to get 18 volumes into 2/3 hours?

Ichigo_101

04-11-2005, 01:09 PM

lol Cant wait :]

mow

04-11-2005, 01:34 PM

Shikamaru-sama

04-11-2005, 02:41 PM

Yeah the length would be the most major issuse. Bu I suppose they will skip on some of the minor parts for example, when Tenma learned how to shoot, or the time the man killed the civilian in the forest and the birds never came to him agan
though that will suck, VERY much. Those little side stories made the manga so powerful and meaningful. The way Urasowa used these minor characters to delve into the human psychology was enchanting. I would hate not to see them in the movie. But hey, this was the only studio wh agreed to make the LOTRs into 3 moives as the books, maybe they will divide it into sequels *crosses finger*

i wouldnt call Tenma learning to shoot a side story, it was extremely important. By showing the effect he had on the teacher it let the audience (for both manga and anime) know how good a man Tenma was, which in turn lets you know how pure his ambition to kill Johan is. Its also the first stage to Tenma becoming the hardman he needs to be

im interested to know if they will try and get some real star power behind this. To promote it outside of japan they are going to have to use people that draw the big western crowds. maybe if they do get the likes of Jude Law then we can get some sequels.

if thats the case, then do you think both films will have to be made at the same time? i dont really think audiences would be interested in waiting a year for it, although the second film would certainly rock.

thats another good question, where would the first film end?

Volume 9 would be amazing, the fire in the library, but i cant even see a film reaching that far

mow

04-11-2005, 02:54 PM

i wouldnt call Tenma learning to shoot a side story, it was extremely important. By showing the effect he had on the teacher it let the audience (for both manga and anime) know how good a man Tenma was, which in turn lets you know how pure his ambition to kill Johan is. Its also the first stage to Tenma becoming the hardman he needs to be

I totally agree, to us as manga readers its probabily one of the most important incidents to occur, but come production, they might just make him learn how to use the gun from the start. It wont be the first time something is changed in a script >.<

im interested to know if they will try and get some real star power behind this. To promote it outside of japan they are going to have to use people that draw the big western crowds. maybe if they do get the likes of Jude Law then we can get some sequels.
if thats the case, then do you think both films will have to be made at the same time? i dont really think audiences would be interested in waiting a year for it, although the second film would certainly rock.

thats another good question, where would the first film end?

Volume 9 would be amazing, the fire in the library, but i cant even see a film reaching that far

Bingo :thumbs, took the words right out of my mouth. That would be the perfect ending for the first movie. Also, I think they should be made in the same time, with a 4-6 months window in between.

What Im really interested in is, how much control Urasowia will have over the movie. That will make or break the movie. I know its his manga and all, but sometimes the director's take librities in writing a script. I hope no major changes would occur

Shikamaru-sama

04-11-2005, 03:08 PM

What Im really interested in is, how much control Urasowia will have over the movie. That will make or break the movie. I know its his manga and all, but sometimes the director's take librities in writing a script. I hope no major changes would occur

thats probably going to be something to be watched. i dont know how he is as an artist, and if he would let someone take over his work to a large degree or not, but there is always the chance that he could be overwhelmed by dealing with the big hollywood studios.

i think it would be nice to instill him in a consultancy role, or an executive producer capacity, just so he can make sure the essence of the story is kept at least, and lets face it, who else is going to be able to develop the characters he made come alive so well?

up until that point theres still a hell of a lot that has gone on, the opening volumes where tenma loses everything, the gun college, introduction of nina and her stuff, killing of the fortners, dieter, tenma and heckel, the burning of the turkish quarter, karl and margarert langer, general wolf, roberto and probably more i cant remember, oh! the doctor and his interviews with the serial killers.

damn moe-sama, that IS a lot

BandanaDan

04-11-2005, 03:11 PM

Changes are inevitable I suppose. Especially the name, they'd probably change Monster into Johan to not confuse with the Charlize Theron movie of the same name.

The problem would be the tension building and how they could make Johan such a bad ass in 3 hours >_< The manga had all the time in the world nearly. It'd probably take the first 30 mins to establish his reputation, saving Johan over the mayor, and his promotion. Then the next hour with lotsa stuff. 15 mins for the storybook and whatnot. And the other hour with the real meat of the story and climax (dang, the last volume was so exhilarating)

I agree with your cast except Tom Cruise. No! Even if he's got the big star power I can't see him as Kenzo (Or Ken) >_< Maybe Takeshi Kaneshiro (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/kumi/takepon/movie/kaneshiro_takeshi_sp.jpg) can do it (but he's too good looking :\) or Tony Leung Chiu Wai (http://www.geocities.com/idols99/TonyLeung/tony07.jpg) I mean, Tom Cruise would play it well but I'd prefer it if it wasn't him. I still get nasty images of his naked cock 80s days and top gun/MI persona!

And does anyone else who are fans of BBC television get reminded of Jonathan Creek when they see Monster? http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=jonathan+creek&spell=1 for those who don't know what it is

mow

04-11-2005, 03:17 PM

Shikamaru-sama

04-11-2005, 03:22 PM

I know shika-sama, there is sooo much to enter the movie. Arent you glad you read Monster now? ;)

Have you read " Another monster"? Its kind of a sequel to the story (its actuay a novel), a reporter attmepts to breakdown the events that have occured to tenma and he interviews all the main characters. In the book, you leartn more about Tenma's family in Japan (an aspect the novel didnt tackle much, that is my only critisim of any Ursawa work to this day, and the man did a truck load of mangas)

i read the first chapter of 'Another Monster' because manga screener are working on it, but i found it very boring. i also found i didnt want things explained in depth, i wanted to keep the mystery of the manga inside my head, rather than looking for explantions?

BandanaDan: i disagree a LOT :D after watching films like Interview With a Vampire, The Last Samurai and Collatarel i think its hard to discredit him as an actor. i mean, who of all the people i named HASNT had a bad film? really the only person i can think of aside from Cruise is Keanu reeves, and that would make me cry a lot, although he does have a weird resemblence to him :blink

Kaneshiro IS too good looking, and i think it would be hard for New Line to have an Asian main star in this. Although, for acting talent, Andy Lau would be good to see, but is far too chinese :P

aioria

04-11-2005, 07:30 PM

I think you guys are expecting too much... if it does get to be made into a movie, they are gonna have to rewrite the whole thing to fit it into a regular 2 hour movie. Having a sequel would be very unlikely, due to the fact that is probably an unknown tittle to 98% of the population in the US. So, they'll probably have to leave lots of characters and have a completely different story line, let's be realistic, how could they squeeze 18 volumes of manga (78 of anime in a movie, or two).

However, I believe this can become a really awesome movie, the concept alone has lots of potential, a surgeon saves a kid, and later learns that the kid was an assassin all alone... they just need to keep the setting at at post cold war Germany, and they can really make the movie go wherever they want...

Now if it were to pick actors for the characters, I wouldn't really know what to say, although I do think that Leonardo Dicaprio could pull off a really awesome Johan.

Tenma

BandanaDan

04-11-2005, 08:09 PM

Agreed, Leonardo Dicaprio was what I really had in mind too. Even if he's got his wang out more than everybody else, he does make a good Johan. Jude Law, ergh I aint a fan of him. He's got that ugly annoying stereotypical english twang that I want to smack. Either speak in normal american english, normal english english, or german and I'll be happy. None of that english=evil crap.

I think Eva should be played by some unknown person who looks like her and can play a bitch. Ashley Judd is too... cute!

And I never said Tom Cruise had a bad film, or even Keanu Reeves, no, they had good films, it's just I cannot see them in the roles as Tenma. I would see them as Doctor!Cruise or Fugitive!Cruise, or Gotmywangout!Cruise but not Tenma Tenma. If anything he needs to be played by an unknown too :\

Shikamaru-sama

04-12-2005, 08:34 AM

I think your both probably right (BD and aioria), many of the roles will be given to unkonw or 'the next generation' actors, which isnt always a terrible thing. I for one would like to see Damian Lewis maybe as Tenma or perhaps as the psychiatrist who helps him.

The problem is, if they take out the characters, or 'go wherever they want' with the story, its going to be a disaster. There are very ferw things in Monsterthat are there for no reason. even the annoying things like Lotte are important. I mean, i can see them taking out the ENTIRE Klause Ploppe storyline. Thats a total, unmitigated disaster! it also deprives the film of a fantastic ending.

so what will be cut out?

what can be cut out with no real damage?

BandanaDan

04-12-2005, 08:44 PM

They can cut out Dieter. Poor poor Dieter.

Hopefully not cut out Grimer, but he aint exactly essential either.

Eva is not neccesary to the plot, she can be removed, or only be in it 5 mins to accuse Tenma and generally show how bastardised he is.

Cutting out some of Johan's past to keep it a mystery.

Cutting out the anti-turk and nazi bits.

Probably cut out Kyle too, and and Lotte. Shortening down the Schuwald arc. It'd turn into a vague 'JOHAN GETS IN AND MANIPULATES RICH GUY FOR FUNDING.' that's it.

The Klause Ploppe HAS TO stay in, as well as the monster book fairytale. It wouldn't exactly be Monster without Klause Ploppe, but then if it's handled badly it'd look pretty cheesy and naff :\

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 01:02 PM

:blink

How can you say Grimmer isnt essential? to leave out grimmer would be to deny the whole end of the manga series, although that will probably have to make way and be chopped to just the Johan/Tenma showdown

im woprking my way through the anime after reading the manga and i have seen some things they could cut. your right about Dieter and the anti-turk/Nazi bits (although they would be useful for exploring the character of Nina a little more). Surely not the Schuwald arc though?

that shoes the height of Johans Manipulation, and is the time when Tenma realises he is giving him the oppurtunity to kill him!. you would also be missing the full, dramatic impact of the Museum and what happens in volume 9.

i have come to the conclusion that Monster the Movie is going to be crap :sad

BandanaDan

04-13-2005, 01:15 PM

They'd definately have to shorten down the Schuwald arc it's just way long to build up to. And Tenma isnt even in it 9/10s of the time! They could keep the museum unvailing and the chance to kill Johan buuut it looks tight to keep under 3 hours. That point though would have to be the half way mark, abour 1 hour and a half through. I'd rather they lop off more of Schuwald's than Grimmer's story. Grimmer is my fav character onnit :D

The movie wont be crap, no no... I can say with confidence it would be good!

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 01:23 PM

How can you say wityh confidence that it will be good?

*looks suspicious* unless you know something we dont......

Sorry, but having to squeeze 18 volumes into 2 or 3 hours isnt going to work. When Urasawa did monster, he constructed every panel exactly how it should be, and everything was their for a reason. One of the most touching stories, MArtin and Eva (Sean Bean would make a good Martin actually) i think would definatly be sacrificied, and the tension would be lost in a normal length feature.

I think its going to boil down to a flashback ridden gun chase between tenma and Johan. No character development/introduction, little storytelling and tell tale, cliché psychlogical thriller conventions.

and that isnt what Monster is about.

BandanaDan

04-13-2005, 01:44 PM

Nah I reckon it'd be good because New Line generally have great Producers. And we wont allow it to be crap or average ;)

It'd be such a shame to remove any of Eva's story agreed, but she isnt essential to the core plot. And Monster is so rich with these sub plots that getting rid of them would be like the removals in LOTR... spoiler Tenma is only in like, half of the 18 Volumes (I exaggerate but yeah) so the main focus would be on him. It'd be good if they could split Monster into 2 films, but it just wont work unless it has the sheer star power and a well known director to pull a stunt like that off. *crosses fingers that it'd be announced soon*

>_< buuuut buying the license means nothing to these people... Monster isnt even out here yet. They could shelve the Monster movie for 10 or 20 years...

mow

04-13-2005, 02:00 PM

ah, the result is this

Monster the movie will suck, no matter what will happen. Unless they divide it into 2 or 3 movies (which I highly doubt would occur) I cannot see them representing Monster as how it shoud be don.

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 02:25 PM

I never considered buying the rights means the movie wont be made for a number of years yet!

i wonder if they will have any consideration in manga publishing? i dont know if Monster was licensed, i imagine it was though?

if it was to be brought out in America/Europe/UK then it would push them more towards the making of the film, and as a result of so many people having read the manga, certain subplots would no doubt be kpet in due to popularity. Things like Grimmer and the Magnificent Steiner.

BandanaDan

04-13-2005, 02:46 PM

lol @ sarcasm Shikamaru-sama ^_^ By the time they get around to filming, all our listed actors would be old fogies lol. The manga aint licensed here yet! There were some rumours way back in August with Viz but no official confirmation. Let's face it, if Monster aint gonna be licensed yet (and assuming they bring a Volume an average of 3 months) that'd take 6 years for it to complete here. Because the american audiences havent heard of Monster, New Line could mangle it all up and spit it out whatever way they like. I like most New Line films. But it will not be our good Monster unless those volumes are shot out fast to establish a cult following!

And lol the full title is 'Monster: Horrible Story', imagine if they removed 'Monster' to keep it from confusing with the Charlize Theron movie. Who wants to go see Horrible Story eh?

jkingler

04-13-2005, 03:05 PM

Monster is great. I loved it. But it is too long and too unknown at this point for New Line to invest 3 movies in the script. I am sure a lot will be excised--I mean, they had to leave things out for LOTR, which is the most well known source material imaginable!

But it can still be a good, engaging, and Monster inspired movie. It will just never be what us manga-readers imagine it could be.

Kenzo Tenma - Tom Cruise
Inspector Lunge - Tom Hanks
Mr Grimmer - Jim Carey
Johan - Jude Law
Nina - Charlize Theron
Roberto - Bruce Willis
Eva - Ashley Judd

I mostly agree with you, but I would make a few changes. Not that our dream casts will affect who is hired to act, but here is my ideal cast

Kenzo Tenma - Tom Cruise/Johnny Depp (Tom Cruise is the safe/typical choice, but Johnny would be an interesting Tenma. And we know from Findng Neverland that he can have that purity about him to be believeable in this role)
Inspector Lunge - Tom Hanks/Willem Dafoe (Willem could do Lunge to perfection in his sleep, but Hanks would also work)
Mr Grimmer - Jim Carrey (he could be AMAZING in this role)
Johan - Jude Law/Leo DiCaprio (either or--can't decide!)
Nina - Ashley Judd (switched)
Roberto - Ving Rhames. He is the only guy I can think of who has the charisma and the big, bad presence to do him justice.)
Eva - Charlize Theron (we know Charlize has the range to do it. She was already in the other MONSTER and proved it)

Man, that title doesn't sound promising! Horrible Story...*shudders* I would rather they gave it a title like "The Boy and The Surgeon" or something equally typical, but not as vomit-inducing as what they have now!

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 05:01 PM

Hmm, about Monster not being known so not-much-investment, a solution would be to market the movies as movies, and not as adaptations of the manga Monster. That way we could get the 2/3 movies, but it wouldnt alienate audiences, more give people a chance to say 'oh, and did you know this was based off a japanese book?'

ive never heard THAT title before =/ he kinda lost the plot there a little huh?

Sounds silly, but the problem with Ving Rhames is that hes black :P i dont think Roberto could be played by a black man, his involvment in east germanies Kinderhiem 511 project would be very hard to explain. He also needs to lose weight to pose as a lawyer, and i cant imagine VR doing that :P

Johnny Depp, a very good possibility for Tenma, i saw one of his posters today and he had a very Tenma like pose which actually made me double take when i saw the picture! Hes also a fantastic actor thzt can probably do any role we asked him to.

I had an idea for Roberto? Ed Harris? Similar to bruce Willis i suppose, but you see Ed Harris and you know he is one hard man.

I think Halle Berry would make a decent Eva too, coming to think of it. (especially considering she has lots of sex scenes 0.0)

and i would stick by Charlize for Nina, Nina would require someone with a lot of Acting Intensity (i feel that deserves the capital letters =P) which Charlize has prved she can give.

Leo Di Caprio - NO!

jkingler

04-13-2005, 05:09 PM

^Leo might surprise you. Have you seen the Basketball Diaries or Gilbert Grape? The boy has range to spare, and he has a baby face. Definite requirements to play Johan.

And Roberto isn't a very German sounding name--he must be of some Hispanic origin. Also: there ARE black guys in Germany. It doesn't seem too far fetched to me. The only problem would be the whole white power trend of the time, so I guess I can see how he would become a more marginal character than he was in the manga...but they are going to change so much anyways, that I could see them fitting Ving in somehow, some way :thumbs

Ed Harris could do it, but he isn't big enough, if you ask me. Roberto always seemed like a very physical presence to me, and that just isn't Ed Harris' M.O., you know?

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 05:16 PM

LOl, that is a good point about ol' Ed, hes a bit of a short arse (but dont tell him i said that).

I Have indeed seen Gilbert Grape and Leo impressed me in that a lot. I mean A LOT. Thing is, Johan needs a cool, calm, metaiculous look in his eyes, and mannerisms that Leo cant produce. Johan is very English, on any movie hje would HAVE to have the english accent. He wears a tweed suit for gods sake! :P

Roberto really couldnt be black, he was a member of Kinderhiem 511, the prgoram to create the perfect ARYAN soldier. It would be creative license gone too far! He couldnt be a minor character either, especially as the man who does the bulk of the killing in the novel.

oooooo. Wouldnt Michael Madsen be soooooo good? Physical Presence, Mr Blonde.

*drools*

BandanaDan

04-13-2005, 05:34 PM

Shikamaru-sama

04-13-2005, 06:47 PM

:D If they recognise how much of a vehicle Grimmer's story could be to propel Jim Carrey back in the top spot... man. I'd love a Monster movie which was just about Tenma and Grimmer! *cough* with johan as a subplot
I will AGREE with that, thats like, an amazing idea.

but then you need to recast Tenma as someone who will go well with Jim Carey and he would act pretty much anyone off the screen.

I think, like Jkingler said, Johnny Depp would be a good one. Both of them together brings the star power aswell.

jkingler

04-14-2005, 06:37 PM

^Depp and Carrey, both serious and able to be humorous...I think I would die if they were in a movie together...Especially if Benecio was in it too...I still maintain he would be a good Roberto, since he can do charisma, and he can do crazy as well...

But, Hispanic name aside, you know who would make an amazing Roberto, now that I think of it?

CLIVE OWEN!!!

He needs to be in on the project--seriously!!! :amazed *faints*

Shikamaru-sama

04-17-2005, 07:48 PM

Clive Owen? lol, ill wait until i see Sin City before i comment on that one :P Alhtough King Arthur was good, he didnt so much act as much as run around on a horse shouting at people to go and get stabbed :blink

i had a crazy htought the other day at not starting the movie at the start of the manga. They could start the movie during the Schuwald Arc, perhaps with the detective who is killed by johan, and then reveal what happened through Tenma flashbacks?

Could be a way to only show the most important aspects of the opening volumes, while getting to the meaty stuff straight away.

i just wanna see tyhat library burn dammit! >.<

BandanaDan

04-17-2005, 08:03 PM

That might work :\

I'd reckon it'd be better if they concentrated on a sub plot of Monster and mixed it with the main plotline. Like Jim Carreys bit through his perspective as he goes about befriending children, taking the rap for a detective framing himself, his story of flashbacks and his childhood aaaalll the way to the end of his story and the conclusion of the orphanage story thingy.

Yeah! With Lunge and Tenma being innit. And part 2 could follow Tenma's story like Pulp Fiction when it switched between Vincent+Jules Story to Butches.

Erm, or maybe not.

Woooo they better get fans to make the movie >_<

Gondar: King of Primates

05-23-2005, 10:17 PM

I love Monster, we were watching it in my anime club but stopped for summer break at episode 26. Considering it was in the middle of a story arc, I got a friend of mine to watch more with me up to 49, but now I don't see him anymore and watched up to 52 myself. IT is getting insanely good at this point, especially the last 2 episodes. This is definetly becomming one of my favorites.

mow

05-23-2005, 10:24 PM

Monster is grand. You have to read the manga, 10 times as good :P. Anything created by Urasawa is a masterpiece

Kopykat Kakashi

05-23-2005, 10:38 PM

My current fav after Naruto. Will Definitely have to watch the whole thing over (and create a timeline) once it's over.

Cao Ren

05-26-2005, 01:02 PM

guys i recommend reading the manga then, The anime does get slow at some times but the manag will have you addicted. you can find all 18 volumes in
www.managscreener.com
or you can read it online in:-
anime-source.com

The link isn't working.

Anyway I have heard very good things on the anime a lot of people said its utterly addiciting to watch and you can't stop watching, I am alos watching Blackjack.

sunshine and gasoline

05-28-2005, 12:24 PM

I don't think Monster (anime) is becoming boring, I think the first 5 episodes where boring, but after that things have been getting better and better. I'm currently at episode 34, I hope it continues this great for the rest of the show.

Does anybody know how long the anime will be?

Kepa

05-28-2005, 02:57 PM

yeah, I watched up until 20something...then I was forced to stop following, and now I'd have to catch up on the anime

pff... so much to do

Gondar: King of Primates

05-28-2005, 11:57 PM

There are supposed to be around 76-78 episdoes depending on which websites count you beleive

Dabura

07-09-2005, 02:17 PM

check this out:

Screenwriter Josh Olson (A History of Violence) has signed on to adapt Monster, which is based on a best-selling Japanese manga comic book series from author Naoki Urasawa, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The book series follows a young doctor who saves the life of a little boy only to find out a few years later that the life he saved was that of a brilliant killer. The doctor must track down the young killer and solve a larger conspiracy.

>>>>>As part of the deal, Olson will also write the treatment for a sequel. New Line Cinema will distribute domestically. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

source: http://www.themovieinsider.com/news/nid/1972/Josh_Olson_Meets_Japanese_'Monster'_at_New_Line

Well it looks like they have a sequel in mind. I follow the anime, so I don't know anything about "another monster manga". But I believe it will split the original story in parts. That would be so awesome, it will be a hype when Monster will be seen all over the world as a trilogy. I hope they stay true to the authors story and that they give him lots of credit for the film. That would be great for the manga and anime industry.

Aecen

11-20-2005, 11:52 PM

Did a search and didnt see any discussion threads on this anime, if there is I apologize.

Anyways theres gotta be lots of fans of this anime. I've just started (on about ep 34), and im hooked, it's nice to get away from all the action/ninja/samuria/robot animes out there, and sit down to watch a suspenseful drama.

Anyways heres a short bio on the anime from Animenfo.com.

Dr. Tenma is a Japanese man working in Germany. He has it all, incredible medical skill, a great job, a beautiful fiancee. He becomes disillusioned with the hospital politics though, when one day he's ordered to forgo operating on a critically injured man in favor of someone who was more famous. After this point, he decides he will do what he thinks is right, regardless of politics.

One day, a young boy and his younger sister were brought in. The boy had a bullet in his head, an operation that the doctor knows only he is capable of completing successfully. But soon after a politician was brought to the hospital and the high ups in the hospital want Dr. Tenma to leave the boy to operate on the politician. Dr. Tenma decides that he'll do what's right and save the young boy's life.

The young boy's operation was a success, but the surgeons operating on the politician fail, prompting his life to fall apart. Dr. Tenma is passed over for a promotion and his fiancee becomes cold to him and eventually leaves him.

But soon after, strange murders begin to occur, ones that benefit Dr. Tenma greatly and though he becomes the #1 suspect, they have no evidence against him. But it seems that the boy whose life he saved has a hand in things, and that he is much more than he seems...

87th Hokage

11-23-2005, 09:53 PM

I rarely post as u can see (<-----) but this is really buggin me. I have been watching monster faithfully since about espispode 5. For those who dont know, it has nothing to do with ninjas or special powers but is an excellent anime none the less. Anyway the subs started coming later and later..and now i can't remember the last time a new episode was out. Will some one plz tell me if the series is no longer subbed or if it is where i can find it? THX

Mindless

11-24-2005, 01:43 AM

Well, I believe Anime-Kraze is still subbing it, eventhough it was almost a month ago they released an episode. I'd try looking on their hompage, forums, mIRC or whatever, about information regarding Monster. If they have scrapped it, it's really a shame. A great anime.

87th Hokage

11-24-2005, 09:51 AM

THx hopefully something comes up

aLkeMiSt

11-24-2005, 10:05 AM

It is a great anime, I hope they don't stop subbing it.

Ainsin

01-27-2006, 05:10 PM

*bump* i've watched up to episode 60 of the series now, and I'm getting irritated about the lack of releases. I have been checking anime-kraze for ages now, and they seem to be on episode 68 for ages now.

Can someone explain to me why they haven't finished subbing the series? From anidb.net, it says that the series is 74 episodes long, and that all 74 episodes have been aired in Japan. I can only surmise that maybe there is a difficulty getting ahold of the RAW, or soldat & anime-kraze are having internal problems.

Some info please. Put me out of my misery!

Awesome series btw

Raistlin-sama

01-27-2006, 07:14 PM

Monster rocks. Anime-Kraze is not exactly known for being fast, but they are known for usually doing quality work. I think they are on episode 68 right now, and there's really nothing you can do, but wait. Well actually that's a lie, you can read the rest of the manga, like I did.

Hattori~Hanzo

01-27-2006, 08:46 PM

I'm among those waiting forever for Monster fansubs. I believe Anime-Kraze and Soldats are still working on it but they are extremely slow with their releases. We just have to be patient. Beggars can't be choosers ya know. :P

rosesmary

01-27-2006, 09:25 PM

Yeah, it 's an excellent anime! i read the manga years ago. Whaht a pity that i don't have chances to finish it.

Ainsin

01-28-2006, 04:45 AM

My own bitchin'/moanin' has made me try to find out why things are going so slowly. Here are my investigations so far:

I just picked this up off Anime-Kraze's forum. It was posted on the 18th January 2006.

Dear Monster Affectionados,

Our Monster releases will be approximately one week later than before due to the fact that the superior DTV raw, which previously aired one week later than the normal TV raw, now airs two weeks later. We believe that the resultant quality difference is important enough for us to wait for the DTV raw, so please bear with us for the time being. We hope and pray that the DTV airing schedule will somehow go back to what it was before, soon.

With soldat, there is no explanation on why their Monster releases have become so slow.

Walker

01-28-2006, 08:24 PM

Anyone else a fan of this series?

I am only up to episode 16 so I still got a ways to go but. But so far this is already in my top favorite animes. I deffinately recomend this anime to anyone who likes mystery and suspence.

oka

01-29-2006, 01:41 AM

some group just sub ep 69. Cos they can't wait...

http://www.tokyotosho.com/

(by rebel-subs)

Efraim Longstocking

01-29-2006, 07:03 AM

Cool! I watched up to episode 68 yesterday.. Monster >>>> Everything else.
Naoki Urusawa is my god, 20th Century Boys and Monster are the two best series ever.

oka

01-30-2006, 01:29 AM

OMG soldats just released the last few eps!! just when i got impatient and finish the manga last nite. Why?!!!

Ainsin

01-30-2006, 03:52 AM

I also picked up that soldat has just released the last 6 episodes of the series. I'm so happy!

mow

01-30-2006, 04:14 PM

Cool! I watched up to episode 68 yesterday.. Monster >>>> Everything else.
Naoki Urusawa is my god, 20th Century Boys and Monster are the two best series ever.

This man knows what he is talking about :hi5

Jones

01-31-2006, 12:10 AM

sadly, the great anime, "Monster", is over. a lot of loyal fans, including myself are happy to finally know what happens to tenma and the bunch, but as far as i'm concerned i hate how the last ep left us with a cliff hanger. it will probably never be answered, and for that, i shed a tear.

(just had to get me two cents in)

Nodoordonotthereisnotry

02-01-2006, 07:21 PM

After two long years ,it's over!!! :( One of my favourite (if not the favourite) anime series(along with Full Metal Alchemist). It just goes to show you that the ideal length of a healthy series should be 51-74 episodes :P .

The Last minute is trully scary. Last scene=priceless.

Efraim Longstocking

02-03-2006, 12:03 PM

I have now finished the entire series. This was the greatest brainfuck I have ever received in my life. The ending was just an enormous WTF! This will need alot of re-watches to sink in...

Now the ending parts in spoiler tags:
There's something quite unfullfilling with the end. Johan seemed to run away again, I was awaiting some kind of family reunion or something. Well, the ending was just as unpredictable as the rest of the series. In the end we didn't learn their real names, but Tenma learned abut them. And now I can't quite decide if Franz Bonaparta was an evil bastard or if he was a nice man, or if he was a sorry old geezer trying to redempt his old sins. I can also not really understand why the mother of the twins decided to dress both as girls. WTF :S.

Jaz

06-19-2007, 04:08 AM

Watched them all a few weeks ago. Monster = Epic win.

Johann's consciousness scene in the hospital was a really fucked up. :laugh
"Who did she really want to throw away?"

The Cheat

02-21-2008, 10:17 PM

[]Dr. Tenma is a Japanese man working in Germany. He has it all, incredible medical skill, a great job, a beautiful fiancee. He becomes disillusioned with the hospital politics though, when one day he's ordered to forgo operating on a critically injured man in favor of someone who was more famous. After this point, he decides he will do what he thinks is right, regardless of politics.

One day, a young boy and his younger sister were brought in. The boy had a bullet in his head, an operation that the doctor knows only he is capable of completing successfully. But soon after a politician was brought to the hospital and the high ups in the hospital want Dr. Tenma to leave the boy to operate on the politician. Dr. Tenma decides that he'll do what's right and save the young boy's life.

The young boy's operation was a success, but the surgeons operating on the politician fail, prompting his life to fall apart. Dr. Tenma is passed over for a promotion and his fiancee becomes cold to him and eventually leaves him.

But soon after, strange murders begin to occur, ones that benefit Dr. Tenma greatly and though he becomes the #1 suspect, they have no evidence against him. But it seems that the boy whose life he saved has a hand in things, and that he is much more than he seems...[]

I'm hooked to this series, just watched the first 5 episodes, anyone else seen this series?

Lord Genome

02-21-2008, 10:31 PM

Awesome series

I prefer the manga a little more though, but either way its aweosme

Shiraishi

02-21-2008, 10:44 PM

Best anime of all-time in my own opinion.

Masterpiece.

Dream Brother

02-21-2008, 10:52 PM

I agree.

The anime (and the manga) are both beautiful. Urasawa's work is something that all Mangakas should aspire to equal or surpass -- a standard of top quality work.

Lord Genome

02-21-2008, 11:04 PM

Not to mention Johan has to be one of the best villians ever.

CrimsonWolf

02-21-2008, 11:16 PM

does anyone have any DDL's? i read the summary and it sounds awsome.

Shiraishi

02-21-2008, 11:27 PM

Johan, for me, is the best crafted anime villain of all time. He's mysterious, fun to watch, and is fucking enjoyable to watch.

Homemadecool

02-21-2008, 11:30 PM

does anyone have any DDL's? i read the summary and it sounds awsome.

There's Direct Downloads at Anime-Eden, but it may be a slow downloading process...

http://www.anime-eden.com/page/anime/monster/series.html

I gradually downloaded this series as I watched others and it's the second anime on my to-watch list now. Definitely intriguing.

EDIT: I found another site that has megaupload links, if you prefer.

http://getfansub.com/wiki/Monster

Barry

02-22-2008, 12:19 AM

I picked this show up a week ago and it seems interesting enough. Dr. Tenma seems like he's in hell.

Cam

02-22-2008, 12:30 AM

I just started reading the manga, it's awesome so far. I'm about to start the anime when I get some free time.

VinC

02-22-2008, 12:50 AM

I saw Monster a few years ago. A top quality anime indeed.

The anime is a 100 % adaption of the manga right? If not I'll start reading the manga asap.

Cipher

02-22-2008, 01:18 AM

I only watched the first thirty or so episodes before going straight for the manga. A fantastic manga from a master author. Johan is tied with Aji Tae as my favorite villain.

Dave

02-22-2008, 01:35 AM

this is a great anime!

Dabura

02-22-2008, 02:59 AM

Its soo awesome.

Recently I've started to watch it again, I'm now at ep 53.
After I saw the monster anime a began to read 20th century boys and pluto.

20th boys is the most awesome ride!
Can't wait until that gets animated. There is a movie trilogy coming this year.

Zeno

02-22-2008, 03:11 AM

Great anime, but I was expecting something supernatural. :(

This anime has proudly claimed my current biggest "OH SHI-" moment.

RODtheTV

02-22-2008, 03:50 AM

IMO one of the 5 best series ever. Maybe the best adapted manga to anime to date.

When watching the anime (for those who read the manga then watched, or watched, read, and watched again) you see things come to life with the music and voice acting. There were parts in the manga that were made more amazing in the anime. That is really rare for something this epic, let alone any series

I.P. Standing

02-22-2008, 06:32 AM

Been done before, so merging...

~Shin~

02-22-2008, 08:49 AM

I saw Monster a few years ago. A top quality anime indeed.

The anime is a 100 % adaption of the manga right? If not I'll start reading the manga asap.

Yeah it's a very faithful adaption. Only the order of some monologues are changed. Other than that everything is exactly the same.

As others have said, Monster is one of the best animes and IMO the best manga ever. The plot is amazingly complex and every character has depth. Urasawa is a MASTER at creating suspense. I can't even count the amount of times this series made me go "WTF?". Not to mention Johan is the best villain in all of anime/manga IMO. I highly recommend this to others.

The Cheat

02-27-2008, 09:35 PM

Got done watching episode 44 and it had the best plot twist I have seen in an anime.

cbfunky

04-26-2008, 01:39 PM

Whoo, I can proudly claim I made it to the end! Took me some time to get through the middle bits but the end is just so worth it. And the amount of detail in the whole series is just like... holy sheeeet! And the suspense...!

Oh, and I'm from Germany btw, so whenever any of the big cities came up (especially Frankfurt, since I used to work around the central station) I was just like... *speechless*

I'd so let myself get killed for Johann. He's the perfect villain (and that's not an overstatement). Absolutely ruthless and without hesitation and yet, someone the audience just has to feel for.

The Cheat

04-26-2008, 03:14 PM

Monster is perhaps one of the greatest anime of all time.

insane111

05-21-2008, 10:32 PM

Just started watching this a couple weeks ago and am already at episode 50. I'm surprised something this good isn't a little more popular, it's a nice change of pace for me from todays typical animes that are all starting to run together.
I can understand how most "naru/bleachtards" wouldn't be able to watch this though, it's not for people with ADD and you need to have a decent amount of patience. No offense to N/B fans, I watch them too, just saying that 90% of them either have ADD or the IQ of a rock :P

And yeah, Johan definitely has to be ranking up there in the top 5 best anime villains of all time.

The Cheat

05-21-2008, 10:34 PM

cbfunky

05-23-2008, 02:51 PM

hehe, and around ep 50 is only the start of the REAL mess!

Supreme Storm

07-12-2008, 03:02 AM

Wow, brilliant anime. WTB live version of this show :p.

Currently on episode 45 of Monster which means I don't have many episodes left. So once i'm done with it I want a anime similar to Monster that I can watch immediately after i've finished Monster. Any recommendations?

Supreme Storm

07-16-2008, 05:16 AM

I just finished Monster and imo one of the best animes. Can't wait for the LIVE movie that is coming out in 2009.

I really want to know if there are other shows similar to Monster...

JTExecutor

07-16-2008, 12:12 PM

20th Century Boys is a manga similar to Monster (IMO better). Dunno about show-wise though.

RODtheTV

07-19-2008, 12:40 PM

Not many shows are. For it's genre #1 or #2. All the other top series have an air of supernatural.

Ummmmm there are some manga's.

Mr. Stud Muffin

09-18-2008, 03:09 AM

Hi. I finished reading the manga. And I was hoping that someone could tell me where I could download the episodes.

I can't seem to find any reliable sites.

EDIT: I just found a great site. NVM.

adee

09-18-2008, 04:17 AM

I put this in my list of anime to watch after I finish with Ah! My Goddess because I've heard nice things about it :jackal

Killu

09-18-2008, 04:28 AM

CX, keep in mind that Monster is a slow paced show that beats around the bush at times, but if you stick to it and watch all 72 episodes, I think you'll feel that it was well worth the intellectual roller coaster ride. Personally speaking, I can safely put Monster in my top 3 anime of all time without even the slightest feeling of doubt, and I'm a picky individual who won't even watch an anime unless someone with a somewhat respectable opinion says said show is decent first.