Why dont people beleive in themselves these days?

[memback]

When I was back in high school which wasnt to long ago, I would always see kids mimic the athletes on tv. Some of them would even say im Sammy Sosa or Ira Iverson.

Why do people look to icons for answers and why do they want to be the next (fill in the blank) ie.Micheal Jordan.

Why dont they just want to be themselves and by doing so be the next great thing????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????:huh

[rimpelcut]

first a child gets bored, then they want to have friends to take that boredom away. So no one wants to be friends with him or he has friends but he is the bitch of the leader or he simple expects to find friends that are fun and play the games he would want to play some day. So he stays kinda bored and starts dreaming of days when he is in a constant orgy of adventure. Or maybe he starts to believe that he needs to have friends and needs to be adored because he still has a boring live but forgot that that boredom was the reason he seeks friends in the first place. I mean it's not the only entertainment, but a very powerfull one ofcourse.
But still there are people that just have a idol because they know that man is skilled and I want to achieve that skill with my training, then it's like a student that looks up to his master.
the problem of people is that they don't realize from an early age that to get what you want you need to be responsible. Don't seek help to get rid of your boredom, create your own fun, create your own knowledge, save your invironment on your own.
The people that come to a party and start making fun on their own are the light of the party, suddenly everybody copies him. Last week I started painting my shed and suddenly two neighbours started copying me! It's because they are so dependant on getting ideas, whatever, from others that they become non creative, boring and get routines of thinking and acting that change a little bit once a year. I other words they become soulless zombies glued to the tv, forgetting what show they watched 2 seconds ago.
So you have to be responsible for everything everywhere. If some guy gets beaten up before your eyes and you did not do you best, then you are responsible for that beating because you had a responsibillity; towards your community, to show that crime should be stopped and not be allowed with one eye shut, to help the economy etc. You take responsibility for your invironment and help yourself with it, realize that!
also: They shoot when I say shoot, so i'm in the position of power. they(your body,thought etc), when I say(what I want to solve) position of power: you influence(not seek) so people glue to you for your awsomeness.
ciao

[memback]

Thanks for the insight. Pretty damn good explantion.
However i see how stupid i made myeself look by posting this thread i totaly contradicted myself in the "what is true wisdom" thread.

Also shamefully I can see some of the characteristics that you have described in myself.:sad Well thanks again for helping me further my self enlightenment.:tem

[memback]

Bye the way is that a real hamburger?????? Its totaly huge!

[rimpelcut]

yes it is real, it has half a kilo cheese on it.
I have a tip I think everybody should do: first find the stick up your ass and remove it then go outside and take a walk, start having a conversation with every hot girl you see, say what you want to say, if someone gets anoyed by you tell him to remove his stick from his ass, if he starts threatning you, release the tiger and crush him or if he is a bodybuilder slap him and run away, then start singing on the street, dancing, invite some girls to your party. go to a restaurant and buy something you never eaten then go and apply for a garbage pickup job. In school tell your teacher that he is a loser and laugh in his face, then when he becomes angry , emporsonate him and tell a classmate the same way, get out of class. go to your house and create a scientific worthless gaget with the help of your science homework then go download copyright violated kungfu ebooks with bittorrent. go kick some air-ass and relax afterwards with a joint(wait 2 hours before smoking after fitness) then put on the news and laugh at the stupidity of people. Go to your neighbours and invite them to diner. make pasta, chicken and salad. talk about how they spend their live. Go read interesting things on internet and sleep. when you wake up, mastrubate but don't ejaculate. do some push ups, marvel at how your arms can move and try to kick your head, then put hip hop on and street/break dance. make breakfast, eat, clean dishes. dress and brush teeth. go pick up garbage. after work go to school and seeing the teachers strict face, tell him to take his stick out of his ass. ask difficult questions to the teacher in class and insist he explains them. Do the work in class according to instructions in textbook. during break start beat boxing, and say your friends to join. if they wet there pants, ask girls. talk with girls and ask one of them out. After break tell the teacher you want to know what people use the theory for. if his story sucks tell him that. after school, run to your home, do some wheelturns while your at it. crash on your sofa and stop everything, looking, hearing dreaming, fuck it, I don't care. then when you are bored with nothing go do your homework, one question at a time. throw books in the corner and go eat 2 tuna sandwiches with milk, if you don't have it go to the supermarket. In the supermarket give a fat guy advice not to buy food because he is fat. Then go to your computer and make a webpage about your whatever. Go painting or drawing, use colors. use lsd or mushrooms if emagination is poor. after the trip go outside and go to a chinese supermarket. Ask them how to make a japanese meal, then let them describe a good yummy yummy recipe, tell them that if it isn't jummy you will be unhappy and make a sad face. Go home and make the dinner wearing a towel around your head. invite friends and give them a super welkom. talk about your previous experience with the world. then go to a club. mingle and do your new streetdance skills. remember that you are not with your friends, they are with you. Talk to a chinese girl about your succesful chinese cooking. marvel at the variety of fucking positions then stop fucking, when she tries to grab your dick with her pussy give it to her. 1time deep 9 times shollow, repeat. when you want to, cum. Wake up, do excercise to music, let her join, move to the beat. then look at her excercising and fuck her, don't ejaculate. Eat breakfast, run home, do some flying kicks high in the air while your at it. do homework ahead of class, surf on internet. take a walk in your neighbourhood and think about the world and stuff. when your home get money and go to the city. buy clothes and ask others their opinion. go to hairdresser and get a new hairstyle. say it has to match your clothes style. Go on your date and have fun, I quess. next day it is crucial that you do excercise untill you can't move any muscle. if muscles get thight, run, do repeated air punches and kicks. sit in horse stance untill your muscles don't have power. that comes after shaking and pain and stuff. then clean your house. eat. read a book. go to naruto forums and write a really long post and inform the people that you have life (edit) now.

[memback]

Ummm. ok.......

Well that was very specefic advise. So specefic that much of it wouldt work for me.

However i do like that part where i take the stick outa my ass and ask others to do the same, followed by talking to hot chics n asking one of them out.:tem

?Whats bitorent, and flying kicks? :blink

I Practice Muay Thai

Fear My Elbows Of DOOM!!!:laugh

[rimpelcut]

yeah, just your typical kicks, look on internet to find all the kicks there are.
search for bitcomet, then go to site and download the program, install.
then go to this site: www.kungfu-torrents.com and download fighting videos with crazy kicks.
Elbows are awesome!

[roguenoir]

Because even if we try our hardest, there's still a very slim chance we'll be just as great as, say, Michael Jordan. So we aspire to be different than everyone rather than like someone.

[darklinnah]

Because they see someone greater than what they are.

I have classmates that tell me they hate themselves because they're not like this and that. They compare their talents to others and when they found that they're not as good as that person, then they'll say they hate themselves. Its like in drawing. Everybody has different styles so people tend to compare their artwork with others. Then they'll say they have a bad drawing even though their artwork looks so good. Hmm. I guess less people are being contented with themselves.

[Key]

they see someone better than themself.
so what they want to be fake let them be fake!

[neko-sennin]

All most people see of others is their RESULTS. What those who truly attained any form of greatness in the world always manage to see in their heroes is all the HARD WORK said heroes put into becoming great, and took inspiration from that instead.

Everybody, even the greatest of any field, had to start somewhere. It might be heartening to know:

-Michael Jordan actually didn't make the cut the first time he tried out for his high school team.

-Les Claypool of Primus didn't even KNOW how to play a guitar when they started playing.

-When Stephen King first started submitting his stories, he got so many rejection slips, he needed a railroad spike to pin them all up.

I don't envy those who are handed their success on a silver platter. Fair weather does not a great sailor make, and all that. All most people see is the end, rather than the beginning, and that is they don't believe in themselves, and will continue to idly idolize other people and never accomplish anything themselves.

Until they see that for themselves, most people are trapped.

PS: Cool explanation, Loco. That so aptly sums up a lot of the conflicts playing out around me when I was a kid, and even, eerily enough, in the adult world.

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[Silverdragon]

Because media and society paint these men out to be gods. I belive its okay to aspire to be as great as someone through your own honest hard work. But to idolize an athlete is not a trend that should develope among kids because it may lead to unhealthy habbits...i.e steriods, developing eating disorder, unhealthy workout ethic, etc.

[Tsukiyomi]

What reason do they have to believe in themselves? They're told nothing but bad shit on the news all day, the only good stuff is about celebrities and athletes, and even thats not all good, so they look to someone greater than themselves to tell them its going to be ok, its human nature in times of stress to either look for the strongest person to follow, and in our society we paint athletes that way instead of stepping up to that role ourselves.

[memback]

Will someone kill this thread i soo totaly contradicted myself and having this thread is pointless.

There is somthing i said in the true knowledge thread about how ppl as humans build off those who came b4 us and stough and thats pretty much thte answer to this thread. Sooo yeah.