Swedish

[mr_shadow]

Since all the non-english speakers seem to be teaching their native languages, i thougt id give it a shot. Ill try to explain the grammar as we go along, but since i take all of that stuff for granted, i might overlook something important. If that should happen, feel free to ask.

First of all: Why should you learn swedish? Well, naturally it helps if you wanna move to Sweden :P. It will also help you understand danish and norwegian, since the 3 languages are very closely related. It might also be usefull in learning german, and in reverse, if you know german already you will find swedish alot easier. Or if you are a swedish-american (there are alot of those, becouse of the mass emigration at the start of the 20th century) you might wanna learn the language of your ancestors.
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Letters

First of all, swedish has 3 more letters than the english alphabet. Those are Å, Ä and Ö.

Å is pronounced like the O in "thorn"

Ä is pronounced like the A in "shadow"

Ö is pronounced like the O in "world"
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Ill be ripping of the scenario from Japanese Online, but adapt it for teaching Swedish. This is simply becouse i dont have the imagination to make one of my own



Lession 1

Johan: Hallå
Hello

Jason: Hallå
Hello

Johan: Jag heter Johan Svensson. Trevligt att träffas
My name is Johan Svensson. Nice to meet you

Jason: Jag heter Jason Miller. Detsamma
My name is Jason Miller. The same [As what you said]

Johan: Är du amerikan?
Are you american?

Jason: Ja, det är jag. Du då?
Yes, i am. You then?

Johan: Jag är svensk
I am swedish


Jason: Johan, går du på universitetet?
Johan, do you study at the university?

Johan: Ja. Du då?
Yes. You then?

Jason: Jag går på gymnasiet
Im in the gymnasium (High Scool)

Johan:Går din vän också på gymnasiet?
Does your friend also go to the gymnasium?

Jason: Ja. Vilket år går du på universitetet??
Yes. which year are you in the uiversity?

Johan: Jag går andra året
Im in the second year


Lession 2

Jason: God morgon
Good morning

Johan: God morgon
Good morning

Jason:Vad är det där?
What is that?

Johan: Det här? Det är en kamera
This? Its a camera

Jason: Vems kamera är det?
Who´s camera is it?

Johan: Den är min
It´s mine

Jason: Är den där också din?
Is that also yours?

Johan: Nej, den här datorn är min väns
No, this computer is my friend´s

Jason:Vad heter den här på svenska?
What is this called in swedish?

Johan: På svenska kallas det här för "telefon"
In swedish, this is know as "telefon" (telephone)

Aha, det där då?
Aha, what about that?

Det där är en bok, och det här är en tidning
That is a book, and this is a magazine

Lession 3

Johan: Vem är det där?
who is that?

Jason: Hon heter Mary
Her name is Mary

Johan: Är hon också amerikan?
Is she american as well?

Jason: Nej, hon är australiensare
No, she is australian

Johan: Vilken del av Australien är hon från?
Which part of australia is she from?

Jason: Jag vet faktiskt inte
I actually dont know

Jason and Johan walk over to Mary

Jason: Mary, det här är Johan
Mary, this is Johan

Mary: Trevligt att träffas
Nice to meet you

Johan: Detsamma
The same

Mary: Johan, är du från Stockholm?
Johan, are you from Stockholm?

Johan: Nej, jag är göteborgare. Du då?
No, i am a Gothenburg-er. How about you?

Mary: Jag är från Melbourne i Australien
Im from Melbourne, in Australia

[Hazu]

Å Ä Ö is respect........................:P:P

[mr_shadow]

I will continue my improvised language course when someone shows interest (or i get bored and post more stuff)

[Procyon]

Hmm...I'm interested. My dad's mom was Swedish, so naturally, I am too. I also happen to be Norwegian. ^_^

A popular phrase seems to be "I love you". How do you say that?

[mr_shadow]

I love you = Jag älskar dig.

Älska menas "to love", while älska-r means "loving". So the above literally means "I loving you"

"Dig" (prononced "dej". the spelling comes from an older form of swedish which nobody uses anymore) is the form of "you" thats used when the person is the object of an action (in this case, love), so dont confuse it with "du" that i mentioned in my first post

[mr_shadow]

To confuse you further, the word for "love" is "kärlek". That is only when referring to the concept of love, like "fred, kärlek och förståelse" = "peace, love and understanding"

[Sid]

Hej, läget? :)

[mr_shadow]

Jodå, det är bra. Men kom ihåg att det här är en tråd för att LÄRA UT svenska, inte för att prata det ;)

Translation:
Sid - Hi, hows it going?
Mr_shadow - yeah, its fine. But remeber this thread is for TEACHING swedish, not for speaking it ;)

[Sid]

hehe, I'm Dutch actually :)

I picked up some Swedish words from a couple of Swedish guys I used to game with. Mostly swear words though :p

[mr_shadow]

hehe, ok, cool. Its of corse perfectly alright if people try and make posts in swedish in this board, just provide "subtitles" for those who arent as good at it as you.

Becouse i know how annoying it gets. One time in WoW i was in a 4-man group, out of which 3 were turks. So they kept talking to eachother in turkish, and for all i knew they could be talking about ME, and i dident understand anything

[Rinali]

hej på dig

blah, I understand it better

[mr_shadow]

Rina: Om du nu är finne (som det står under namnet) kan du väl starta en tråd om finska? Jag har funderat på att lära mig det i framtiden nångång, så då kan jag ju lika gärna börja nu

Rina: If your finnish, like ut says below the name, couldent you start a thread about finnish? Ive been thinking about learning it at some point in the future, so i might as well start now

[Mister_T]

Äh låt finnen vara med... hon säger själv att hon inte gillar finland...

Bah, let the fin join in.. she says it herself that she doens't like finland

[mr_shadow]

Jag har inte sagt att hon inte får vara här, jag säger bara att jag skulle vilja lära mig finska. Jag känner bara 1 en finne annars, och han är halv-svensk, så hans finska är nog inte att räkna med.

I never said she couldent be here, i just said id like to learn finnish. I only know 1 finn, and hes half-swedish, so i dont think his finnish-skills are reliable

[Hazu]

vad är det med alla översättningarna??:blink

whats up with all these translations? :blink

heehee......min svenska suger nuförtiden........ typ IG barn...:scry

du kan ha lite grammatik ...n___n

hee....my swedish sux nowadays....My grades are like like F - - ..:scry

you can post some grammar...n____n

[mr_shadow]

Översättningarna finns där för att de som inte kan svenska ska fatta vad vi snackar om

the translations are there so non-english speakers will understand what we´re talking about

Ska börja jobba på min nästa post, och jag försöker förklara grammatiken så mycket som möjligt (utan att det blir för virrigt). Men ett misstag som vissa språk-lärare gör är att BARA koncentrera sig på grammatik, istället för ordförrådet. Jag tycker det är bättre om folk lär sig en massa svenska ord istället, och sen kan de läsa det vi skriver till varandra och bilda sig en uppfattning på så vis.

Ill start working on my next post, and im trying to explain the grammar as much as possible (without it getting to confusing). But a mistake made by some language-teachers is to ONLY focus on grammar, instead of vocabulary. I think its better if people learn lots of swedish words instead, and then they can read what we write to eachother and get the impression that way.

[Aman]

Lol, svenskarna på det här forumet växer, nice. :amuse

Lol, the swedish people on this forum is growing, nice.:amuse

[krigarinna]

I'm swedish and finnish ^^

[Aman]

Lol, svenskarna på det här forumet växer, nice. :amuse

Lol, the swedish people on this forum is growing, nice.:amuse

[mr_shadow]

Counting in swedish (pronounciation differs somewhat in dialects, but this is the offical way of saying it):

1- ett

2- två

3- tre

4- fyra

5- fem

6- sex

7- sju

8- åtta

9- nio

10- tio

11- elva

12- tolv

13- tretton

14- fjorton

15- femton

16- sexton

17-sjutton

18- arton

19- nitton

20-tjugo.

30- trettio

40-förtio

50- femtio

60- sextio

70- sjuttio

80- åttio

90- nittio

100- hundra

After 20, you simply add the odd number, just like in english. Like "tjugosex" = 26. And "hundratjugosex" = 126

[doc_thomas]

kuk bajs fitta knulla anus

[retreat]

although i knew norwegian and swedish were similiar, i didn't realise how so untill now.
but i think i should stop reading this thread before i get confused and start writing swedish stuff in my norwegian homework..
learning a new language is hard ( especially when youread one that so similar).

but all the same it is nice to see the similarities :D

Jeg prøver og lærer Norsk (that's probably wrong but i am only learning afterall)
i hope it says i'm trying to learn norwegian, but as my norwegian friends say, i'm crap at the grammar bit :|

~M~

[Aredhel]

hi i'm from sweden but i'm 3/4 finnish...

[Rinali]

kuk bajs fitta knulla anus

:huh

disgusting!!!

[usun]

Jag är amrikansk,men bor i Sverige...Jag får typ en bok för klassen som är över,för,annars är det för lätt..:P
Kul att det finns många svenskar på sajten!

I'm american but live in Sweden.I get like a book that the class over uses,otherwise it's to easy..
It's fun that there's many swedish ppl on the site!

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[usun]

kuk bajs fitta knulla anus

J**la pervo!!

Damn pervert!!

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[Hazu]

kuk bajs fitta knulla anus

......


XDXDXDXD

plockat up från nån eller svensk??

[mr_shadow]

En svensk skulle inte posta en massa slumpmässiga svordommar, så antagligen plockat upp.

A swede wouldent post just a bunch o random curses, so he prolly picked it up somewhere

[mr_shadow]

Articles and plural in swedish:

Something thats bound to confuse english-speakers at first is the absence of a word for "the". Instead of having a specific word to indicate specific article like german or english, we change the ending of the word. the most common endings used are -en, -an, -arna and -orna

En stol = a chair (literally: one chair)

Den här stolen = this chair (literally: that here chair)

En blomma = a flower (literally: one flower)

Den här blomman = this flower (literally: that here flower)

For plural, you usually add -ar or -or to the word. It goes like this:

Flera stolar = many chairs (literally: several chairs)

De där stolarna = those chairs (literally: they there chairs)

Flera blommor = many flowers (literally: several flowers)

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Wile writing this post, i suddenly realized that swedish has male and female words just like german. The words ending with -ar are male, and -or are female. Ill get back to you on how to tell the difference once i work it out myself (ive taken this stuff for granted my whole life, so im not really shure)

[Jackal Iscariot]

Jag vill ha sex = I wanna snoggle
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna hug ya hard
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna tasta ya lips
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna spoil ya
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya love

Jag vill ha sex = I want sex
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna fuck you
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna lick you
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna bone you
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya pussy

[doc_thomas]

cursewords are the most important in any language, to understand some of its culture!!
knulla, peace

[M00se]

Svenska talande bättre folk :D
Swedish speakers are better people
btw.peeps swedish is easy to learn :P and it comes in handy in almost all scandinavian countries (exept Finland exept for Åland ) and its fun when you understand german better and norweigen and dannish :D



ps.dont try learning finnish its 5th hardest language in the world :)

[mr_shadow]

Ok, ive kinda worked out the genus of stuff now, and how to bend them properly:


Male l Neutral l Female

En pojke l Ett träd l En flicka

Flera pojkar l Flera träd l Flera flickor

Den här pojken l Det här trädet l Den här flickan

De här pojkarna l De här träden l De här flickorna


This might not be very usefull right now, but as you learn more words you can look back at this post to figure out the proper endings for things

[mr_shadow]

Basic swedish swearing. Swedes swear alot, so its important to be aware of this stuff to understand what someones saying :P

Fan (pronounced faan) = A old name for the devil.

Satan = kinda obvious :amuse Not as common as Fan, but you hear it occationaly

Helvete = Hell

Dra åt helvete! = Literally "go to hell!", but is used more like "fuck off!"

Vad fan/vad i helvete?! = what the fuck/what the hell?!

Jävlar = Devils/demons

Skit = shit. "skit också!" would translate as "oh crap!", althoug "också" litterallt means "as well"

Kuk = Dick (not allways a curse)

Fitta = Pussy

Knulla = to fuck. Wile not really a curse, it falls in the foul language-category. Therefore it is (of corse) widely used

In old times people belived that all their troubles were caused by the devil or his subordinates, so shouting their name was a way of putting the blame on them when something went bad. This led to the majority of the swedish curses having some relation to satan, demons, or hell. I included the most common (there are tons of variations)

[Kinkatsuo]

Yo! personally, i dont like swedish much.... they have a wierd way of writing thing. sex is six. For me, it's alot easyer to understand Danish. I love the Danish people, they are all for sex drugs and alcohol! i dont know where im going with this, uhm... yeah, personally Im norwegian, and Jeg prøver å lære Norsk was right! ;)

[doc_thomas]

Yo! personally, i dont like swedish much.... they have a wierd way of writing thing. sex is six. For me, it's alot easyer to understand Danish. I love the Danish people, they are all for sex drugs and alcohol! i dont know where im going with this, uhm... yeah, personally Im norwegian, and Jeg prøver å lære Norsk was right! ;)


hehe, is it because sweden occupied norway a few hundred years before(if i recall correctly) =D

[M00se]

And finland aswell :P and now we talk both swedish and finnish TY SWEDEN :P



ps.Jag fick höra att min släkt kommer från Gustav Vasa :P muahahaha BOW DOWN BEFOR ME >:D

[Fighting Spirit]

Cool :). I'm swedish and finnish, finnish background but born in Sweden. Nice to see that someone is learning the cool language of sweden ^^^^^^^^

[mr_shadow]

ps.Jag fick höra att min släkt kommer från Gustav Vasa muahahaha BOW DOWN BEFOR ME >:D

Det är inte alls osannolikt, eftersom Gustav lär ha satt på typ alla kvinnor han kommit i kontakt med. Han borde gått till historien som pimp-kungen

[M00se]

Pimp my king? :D hehe

[Aman]

Jag vill ha sex = I wanna snoggle
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna hug ya hard
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna tasta ya lips
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna spoil ya
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya love

Jag vill ha sex = I want sex
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna fuck you
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna lick you
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna bone you
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya pussy
Nice trans. :notrust

[Indigo]

Va skumt att höra en massa svenska på NF.
Ser helt fel ut ;P

jaja, bra med språkkursen! Kämpa på!

[funkmasterswede]

Yeah this is interesting my dad's family is from sweden but I have never learnt the language.

[Jackal Iscariot]

Nice trans. :notrust
bite me = bit mig

:amuse

[mr_shadow]

A funny phrase is when you say "i like you" (or whatever it is your liking). In swedish it becomes:

Jag tycker om dig

"Tycker" means "thinks", as in "has an opinion". "Om" means about. So the literal translation is "i have a (good) opinion about you".

Ive seen it inaccurately translated as "I think about you". Althoug it is technicly correct if you translate the individual words, the meaning of the phrase becomes wrong.

Ill see if i can come up with any other swedish phrases that sound funny when poorly translated :P

[Grrblt]

Ill see if i can come up with any other swedish phrases that sound funny when poorly translated :P
what are you for one, i feel again you
who are you, i recognize you

[narutorulez]

Mr Shadow först trodde jag att du var en tjej :P

Mr Shadow at first i thougt you was a girl :P

[mr_shadow]

Now for a (supposedly) unique swedish word, "lagom"

Lagom means something along the lines of "not too much, and not too little".

*someones pooring my coffe* Ja, det där är lagom mycket = Yes, thats enogh (litterally: yes, that there is "lagom" much).

Its an old joke that swedes are "lagom" about everything. Swedes are TERRIFIED of getting into trouble, and we avoid that by not taking sides with anyone. If you for example ask a swede about his political views, he might reply "well im a leftist-man, but ill agree that the right has some smart ideas too".

This brings me too a word thats very common among teenagers, namely "typ". Its the equivalent of "kinda" or "sort of", and is applied to the end of scentances to soften them a bit.

For example, the phrase "Gustav lll var en svensk kung" means "Gustav lll was a swedish king". While "Gustav lll var en svensk kung typ" would mean "Gustav lll was a swedish king or somethin".

The reason swedes/teens use this word so much is that it shows that what your saying is not neccesarily the absolute truth. This saves you the embarresment of being busted if it turns out Gustav lll was in fact a DANISH king (he was swedish, im just using this as an example).

The usage of "typ" fades as you get older, since you know more about the world and have more facts to back up your statements. But still swedes try to be somewhat vague whenever they say something

[kame-hame-ha]

jeg kommer fra norge = i come from norway


Æ Ø Å
Ä Ö Å

[Natha]

Geez swedish grammar is actually really complicated:doh I don't understand why I have an MVG(MVG is the highest grade in the swedish grade system) in it XD.
I think swedish sounds very hilarious but not as hilarious a s norwegian though(no I'm not against norwegians,the fact is I'm half norwegian:amuse and also a bit danish).

[Northern Nomad]

Great job there mr shadow, keep it up :thumbs

[Hellcrow]

jeg kommer fra norge = i come from norway


Æ Ø Å
Ä Ö Å

Æ Ø er mye bedre en svensk Ä Ö... Hvorfor? Det ser kulere ut :P

Æ Ø looks much cooler then swedish Ä Ö... Why? They look cooler :P

Teach the peeps swedish, so they can easier learn norweigan afterwords :P

(EDIT: Watch Kopps, an awsome swedish film. See sig)

[Kusajishi]

Vad gör du? - What are you doing?

btw at the two posts above.. thats norwaigan not swedish rofl

[Jackal Iscariot]

Jag vill ha sex = I wanna snoggle
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna hug ya hard
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna tasta ya lips
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna spoil ya
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya love

Jag vill ha sex = I want sex
Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna fuck you
Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna lick you
Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna bone you
Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya pussy
~.b.u.m.p.~

[retreat]

Vad gör du? - What are you doing?

btw at the two posts above.. thats norwaigan not swedish rofl

I wondered why i understood bits of it!
guess it mens i have learnt something this past year :amuse

~M~

[narutorulez]

yeah the word "typ" is something teens & myself use very often.i almost use it in evry sentence.

[Tayshia]

Engelska är igentligen ett finare språk än svenska, dikter och berättelser blir alltid mycket finare på engelska.

English is really a nicer laughish then swedish, poems and storys always becomes prettier at english then at swedish.

Like obvius I'm swedish thoght I'm 37,5% finish so I am going learn that laughis one day so that I'll get what my relatives are saying.

[Mugiwara]

Nämen Tjabba! Visste inte att det var så många som bor i sverige här! :D

Well hello! Didn't know there were so many swedish ppl here! :D

[Tayshia]

Bevisar bara att Naruto är populärt i sverigesmile-big

Only proves that Narruto is popular in Swedensmile-big

[Kusajishi]

Ja det är sant, sverige äger

Yes thats true, sweden ownz

[mr_shadow]

Men det är så jävla kallt på vintern. Till alla er utlänningar: Det fanns ett skäl till att vikingarna hade skägg

But its fucking cold in winter. To all you foreigners: there was a reason the vikings had beards

[Kusajishi]

Jasså? Varför hade dom skägg?

yeah? Why did the have beards?

[mr_shadow]

För att det var kallt!

Nä, det var ett skämt, jag har faktiskt ingen aning. De tyckte väl det såg coolt ut

Cuz it was cold!

Na, just joking, i actually have no idea. Perhaps they just thougt it looked cool

[Kusajishi]

haha ok, det var säkert så! Coola var dom i vilket fall.

haha ok, it was probaly like that! They were cool anyway

[mr_shadow]

As for the word "smörgåsbord" found in resturants (and always pronounced wrong by americans) it means: smörgås = sandwitch. bord =table.

So back in the day, these "sandwitch-tables" would be when you put loads of small dishes on the table and then have people eat as much as they like from it. The concept has since evolved to contain more things than just sandwitches, but the name remained

[Hibino]

Kult med svensker her på forumet:) Skjena graben! (er ikke så flink med å skrive svensk:))

[retreat]

i met this sewdish bloke recently and he's given me the impression that there's some great rivalry between sweden and norway. basically he's saying that norwegian think the swedish are dumb cos they can't understand norwegian as well as norwegians can understand swedish. but at the same time he tells me that norwegians spend most weekends in the mountains...

i like to wind him up by speaking(poorly) my broken norwegian :)

[yummysasuke]

Bah, bit late, but El Jackal, you said this in another thread...
snyggt jobbat, va hände sen?

What does that mean??

[mister. pek]

Fy fan vilken förjävla kallt land

[mr_shadow]

i met this sewdish bloke recently and he's given me the impression that there's some great rivalry between sweden and norway. basically he's saying that norwegian think the swedish are dumb cos they can't understand norwegian as well as norwegians can understand swedish. but at the same time he tells me that norwegians spend most weekends in the mountains...

i like to wind him up by speaking(poorly) my broken norwegian

Yeah, there is a friendly rivalry between Sweden and Norway. Norway is something of a "little brother" to Sweden, and just like brothers we are always fighting and making fun of eachother, but we always stick together when its something serious.

Hey, thats a pretty decent parallel i just cooked up ^^

[Kent]

Bah, bit late, but El Jackal, you said this in another thread..."snyggt jobbat, va hände sen?"


What does that mean??

It's hard to say cause it might change depending on the context but,
"Well done (nice work or something like that:nod ), what happend later on?"

*me swedish* :3

[yummysasuke]

Awesome. :thumbs Thanks Kent ^^

[retreat]

Yeah, there is a friendly rivalry between Sweden and Norway. Norway is something of a "little brother" to Sweden, and just like brothers we are always fighting and making fun of eachother, but we always stick together when its something serious.

Hey, thats a pretty decent parallel i just cooked up ^^

yeh, you should copyright it ^_^ lol

thanks for clearing it up for me.

[minori]

I had my Swedish listening comprehension test today. ^^ Hörförståelseprov på svenska? Can't even remember what it said in the cover of the test. XD I guess it went well anyway. ^^ Weird how I have started to understand just recently how beautiful language Swedish really is. :) Thanks to music and movies - the teachers don't speak it that beautifully... ^^'

[mr_shadow]

I had my Swedish listening comprehension test today. ^^ Hörförståelseprov på svenska? Can't even remember what it said in the cover of the test. XD I guess it went well anyway. ^^ Weird how I have started to understand just recently how beautiful language Swedish really is. Thanks to music and movies - the teachers don't speak it that beautifully... ^^'

If you havent done so already i suggest you watch "Ondskan". Best-swedish-movie-ever!

[narutorulez]

the movie Ondskan is so fucking awsome!

den äger!

It Owns!

[mr_shadow]

the teachers don't speak it that beautifully... ^^'

And your from Finland, right?

Then its time to inform the forum of the phenomena known as Finlands-svenska. Thats the dialect spoken by swedish-speakers in finland and finns who have migrated to sweden. Finland was conquered by Sweden at one point, and we forced the population to learn our language, and it kinda stuck even thoug their a independent nation now.

Finlands-svenska is basicly swedish with a heavy finnish accent. Since the two languages arent related, the combination results in some odd stuff that sound either cute, sexy, or just plain ugly (depends on who the speaker is).


Like, the finns that i know speak the ugly version. But the character Marja in Ondskan wouldent be half as smexy if it wasent for that accent. So it really depends...

[minori]

If you havent done so already i suggest you watch "Ondskan". Best-swedish-movie-ever!

Thanks, I have to look if I can get it somewhere. ^^

Finlands-svenska is basicly swedish with a heavy finnish accent. Since the two languages arent related, the combination results in some odd stuff that sound either cute, sexy, or just plain ugly (depends on who the speaker is).

IMO the pronounciation sounds as horrible as Finns who can't speak English...


Edit: And yep, I'm from Finland ^^

[mr_shadow]

Thanks, I have to look if I can get it somewhere. ^^

I dont know how good your swedish skills are, but i there might be finnish subtitles on the DVD (havent really checked, cuz i dont need the sub)

[Jackal Iscariot]

Bah, bit late, but El Jackal, you said this in another thread...


What does that mean??
lol....

"nice work, what happen later".




IM BORED!!!

Jag är uttråkad!

[Fongie]

Om ni vill ha ett praktexempel på finlandsvenska, se om ni kan hitta ett ljudklipp med Mark Levengood :amuse


If you want a grand example of "finlands-svenska", look for an audio clip with Mark Levengood :amuse

[Centuryslayer]

Haha, vilken roligt tråd ^^

Haha, what a funny thread ^^

[minori]

I dont know how good your swedish skills are, but i there might be finnish subtitles on the DVD (havent really checked, cuz i dont need the sub)
My Swedish skills aren't that good. :( I watched Tillsammans without subs a few days ago (to practise for the listening comprehension test) and didn't understand everything even though I almost know the movie by heart. ^^' But of course it would be great practise if I can't find Ondskan with subs. ^^

[mr_shadow]

If you find a swedish movie you like, i suggest you watch it multiple times. Cuz i noticed that the main reason why i cant understand german at times is that they speak so darned fast i cant make out the words. But if i hear the same line of dialouge 1 or 2 times more, the pieces start to fall into place

[minori]

If you find a swedish movie you like, i suggest you watch it multiple times. Cuz i noticed that the main reason why i cant understand german at times is that they speak so darned fast i cant make out the words. But if i hear the same line of dialouge 1 or 2 times more, the pieces start to fall into place
Yeah, of course. ^^ The problem is just that I wouldn't understand all even though I'd watch it with Swedish subs. Really aren't that good in Swedish. For some reason the words are so hard to remember...

[mr_shadow]

Dont worry about it. I can understand if its strange since the languages arent related. The only good way is to try and find patterns and stuff, by remebering that many words are made up of other words.

A language isent just a random collection of sounds. There is always logic in there if you just look deep enogh. Hell, there are even grammatical rules for when to use "en" or "ett" in swedish (althoug i dont know who they are. I just "know" the genus of a word when i hear it)

[minori]

Yeah, Swedish is actually quite simple language - logical at least. Even more logical than English I'd say. The grammar isn't really the problem, just that I don't get to use the language pretty much at all and that's why don't remember words and pharases and so on. :/ Should watch more movies...

Is there really rules for when to use en and ett..? I'm not sure, but I guess the teachers hadn't taught those us at all. Maybe the rules are too complicated to give any help or something...

[mr_shadow]

Usually you get the advice to use that which "sounds right". But i tried earlier in the thread to scientificly figure out just what "sounded best". And i came to the conclution that words ending with -e or -a usually are "en", and words that dont end with either of those are "ett".

This theory was kinda smashed when i discovered there are exeptions, but generally speaking you can go on that. But since moste people suck at explaining the grammar of their native language, you really shouldent trust my theories :P

Edit: These "special cases" are probably when the rule of the ending is overrided by some other gramtical rule that i havent yet figured out


Edit 2: Regarding your teachers, its probably like when i started learning german. I asked about the rules for der/die/das, and they told me "hey, just focus on learning how to understand the language for now. You will get plenty of grammar when you get to later grades". I think their trying to not confuse you uneccesarily, since your probably having enogh truoble without having to worry about wheter or not a word is En or Ett

[minori]

I'm trusting in what it sounds to me too. And fortunately it's usually also working. ^^ I wish I had as good linguistic instinct in Swedish as I have in English...

Edit: Yeah, it's so much easier to learn a language when they don't make it that grammatical in the beginning. English which started in the 3th grade is a good example if you compare it to Swedish which started in 7th grade... Even though English was so easy just because we were so young they should do the same thing when teachin older kids and adults too.

[Fongie]

Hell, there are even grammatical rules for when to use "en" or "ett" in swedish (althoug i dont know who they are. I just "know" the genus of a word when i hear it)

What? :huh I've always thought it was like "le" and "la" in french, that they're just assigned to words and that there's no rule for it :oh

You can probably find patters in everything, but I doubt you can find even any general rule that works good enough for these :S

[mr_shadow]

But come on my fellow swede: If i were to tell you just a random word, you would instantly know wheter its a "ett" or "en". Therefore there has to be some sort of rule that your brain uses to figure out which would fit best.

The thing with french (and maybe swedish) is probably that the rules are to complicated to actually explain, but you eventually learn them anyway by listerning to the way people talk

[retreat]

i found learning nouns in the definite singluar form helps me remember if it's common or neuter a bit better.
for example if i learn "the house" or "the car" rather than "a car" or "a house"

not sure if that's any help to anyone, but it's helped me loads with my norwegian. i'm better at learning the patterns rather than the actual words.

we're currently doing adjectives and verbs >_<

[Jackal Iscariot]

read this crazy site all ya swedish ppl, if ya totally bored >_>

http://www.lesoptimistes.tk/

NEED tons of fixes...on their way :shifty

[Fongie]

But come on my fellow swede:AND SO ON :P

Yeah I can buy that, it's probably a rule with so many exceptions to it that it doesn't matter anyway :amuse

[Grrblt]

But come on my fellow swede: If i were to tell you just a random word, you would instantly know wheter its a "ett" or "en". Therefore there has to be some sort of rule that your brain uses to figure out which would fit best.
No, there aren't any such rules. You just have to learn for every word.

[Jackal Iscariot]

read this crazy site all ya swedish ppl, if ya totally bored >_>

http://www.lesoptimistes.tk/

NEED tons of fixes...on their way :shifty
oh nice site <insert random member>!

Im totally gonna check it out! :amazed

[rubbereruben]

I've been to sweden once and I love the language/pronounciation...

But damn, I've tried so often but I can't seem to speak the "r" in fyra properly...

it has to be the most difficult thing I've ever had to pronounce...

[mr_shadow]

But damn, I've tried so often but I can't seem to speak the "r" in fyra properly...

There isent really a "wrong" pronounciation, since there are loads of dialects. I have trouble with the standard R as well, but i dont really worry about it

[Rinali]

I made alwasy mistakes with 'en' and 'ett' when I was a kid. I hated speech tharepies in swedish and all kind of other stupid stuff. Now I simply keep my mouth shut.

[Spike]

read this crazy site all ya swedish ppl, if ya totally bored >_>

http://www.lesoptimistes.tk/

NEED tons of fixes...on their way :shifty
I checked it out. Yes, it needs a lot of fixes but it's still pretty nice.

[Chairman]

Hey swedish fellows... got any tips for things to do around Stockholm I'm totally bored right now =______=

[Aman]

Where are you from? :amuse

[Chairman]

Stockholm haha X3. Lives here in Sweden. <yes yes dunno why I speak english here>

[Aman]

Jaså, var i Stockholm bor du da?

[Chairman]

Stuvsta (Huddinge) :3... Du? O_O

[Spike]

Härligt att se lite svenskar här inne.

[Chairman]

Hallå Bulten, jo instämmer. Någon som vet vad som hänt med Sweden fc? Har försökt hitta den men inte lyckats, har den tagits bort?

[Spike]

Om du inte hittar den så är det troligtvis så. Vi borde kanske starta upp ett nytt?

[Chairman]

Jaaa... vore trevligt X3. Den förra försvann lite efter att jag hade joinat så hann inte snacka nån svenska ju =__=.Vill du starta den?

[gnutte]

Vad tyst den här tråden blivit..

[Chairman]

Mjo... ingen som vill lära sig svenska tydligen XD

[mr_shadow]

Själva "lärandet" tog ju slut efter de 3 första sidorna :P. Fast det har nog att göra med att jag inte är någon utbildad språk-lärare, så det blev väldigt ostrukturerat

[WDT]

Hejsan, så många svenskar vi var då...trodde jag inte n____n

[Kusajishi]

Mjo finns nog ganska många svenskar =)

[retreat]

can anyone provide me with a swedish birthday greeting?
Preferebly a few sentances along the lines of " happy birthday,(then a load of the usual birthday wishes crap that you get in cards)"
thanks in advance.

~mari~

[mr_shadow]

"Grattis på födelsedagen" is the usual greeting. The words mean "Congratulations on the birthday"

The swedish birthday song goes:

Ja må han/hon leva, ja må han/hon leva, ja må han/hon leva ut i hundrade år! Ja visst ska han/hon leva, ja visst ska han/hon leva, ja visst ska han/hon leva ut i hun-dra-de ååår!

Translation:

Yes may he/she live, yes may he/she live, yes may he/she live for a hundred years! Yes shurely shall he/she live, yes shurely shall he/she live, yes shurely shall he/she live for a ho-un-dred yeaaars!

[retreat]

Thank you! :)

[Chairman]

Själva "lärandet" tog ju slut efter de 3 första sidorna :P. Fast det har nog att göra med att jag inte är någon utbildad språk-lärare, så det blev väldigt ostrukturerat

well.. jao kanske det. men några vetgiriga svenskälskare har jag inte sett häromkring sista tiden/sen jag hittade tråden XD.

Gjorde en ny sweden fc:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=99908
så om någon vill joina... >_>

[M00se]

finns det snälla svenskar som vill skicka till mig 2 torn snus :D?

[I Я k1nj3]

apa penis


teach me swedish please :wtf

[Jackal Iscariot]

apa penis


teach me swedish please :wtf
Jag gillar det i rumpan = my back kinda hurts
jag är kåt = im happy

[Aman]

Jag gillar det i rumpan = my back kinda hurts
jag är kåt = im happy
Lol.

Jag är bög = I like girls

:amuse

[BamBam]

Jag heter också Christian...haha

[BamBam]

Jag gillar det i rumpan = my back kinda hurts
jag är kåt = im happy

Hahaha!!....you're really good!

[Kirsten]

Yay! A Swedish class! I've been wanting to learn it since most of my friends on here are Swedish ... :oh

[Kirsten]

*bump*

Sorry to double post, but where the hell are the people?? XD

:oh

[Ghoststory]

I gave the thread starter a kick in the butt. He should show up before long

[mr_shadow]

Ok, ill try to do some teaching. Did you read my first post (which probably needs editing), or should i start over?

[Ketchup]

http://basshunter.m0o.eu/anna/index_se.php

:laugh

Jag är ingen sexy...XD

*walks away slowly*

[mr_shadow]

While the lyrics of that song arent all that serious, your welcome to listen to it if you wanna get an idea what swedish sounds like :laugh

[Ketchup]

And that Dutch translation is sometimes wrong too. Oh well, it's still fun to sing along: Jag känner en bot. Hon heter Anna, Anna heter hon. Och hon kan banna, banna dig lalalalalalal....:P

[Sesqoo]

Jag gillar det i rumpan = my back kinda hurts
jag är kåt = im happy

LOL:laugh

good one

[Kirsten]

http://basshunter.m0o.eu/anna/index_se.php

:laugh

Jag är ingen sexy...XD

*walks away slowly*
Oh God .... I thought I had that song out of my head. >.<

Thanks a lot! :yell
Ok, ill try to do some teaching. Did you read my first post (which probably needs editing), or should i start over?
Okay, I'll start from the beginning, and if I have a question about something, I'll ask. ;D

[mr_shadow]

Ill do some uppdates when i find the time (sometime this week)

[Sid]

Can anyone tell me what this means:

När jag blir stor ska
jag alltid vara ensam

[less]

"When I grow up shall
I always be lonely"

Kept the slightly un-english syntax to save the poetic timing.

[Sid]

Thanksss :)

It's from this btw:

http://www.mono211.com/content/releases/mtkmp137.html

[Ketchup]

Lol, that Boten Anna song is getting popular. Some Boten Anna spoof: http://www.gebroedersko.nl/HTML/index.html

*sigh*

[mr_shadow]

När jag blir stor ska
jag alltid vara ensam

När = when

Jag = I

Blir = become (future tense)

Stor = Big

Ska = will

Alltid = always. "tid" means time, so the word literally means "all-time"

Vara = to be

Ensam = Alone. You may want to use the english word "Lonesome", as it sounds more like the swedish equivalent

[mr_shadow]

Instead of posting stuff in the middle of the thread, ill just do a major rewamp of the first post. Enjoj

[mr_shadow]

Lession 3 is out

[narutorulez]

Jason: Ja, det är jag. Du då?
Yes, i am. You then?

borde det inte vara Yes, i am.And you? istället för You then?

shouldnt it be Yes, i am.And you? instead of you then?

or maybe im the one who's wrong,I just thought it sounded strange :oh

[Salle]

Aja bra att någon lär ut det iaf...

[Freija the Dick]

lol, lektioner, låter skoj :P lycka till med de mate.

[Qrambo]

http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php

jag vet inte om nån har nämnt denna sidan innan och har dom det så ber jag om ursäkt

idont kno if any1 has put up this site before me but i they have im sry

[M00se]

<3 svergie men finland e bättre ^^

[Salle]

Sverige är ganska bra men det finns säkert bättre.
Jag hatar till och med språket!

[Lovewitches]

Coolt :huh Jag visste inte att det fanns lektioner på denna sida också :P

Detta ser lovande ut, fortsätt att kämpa! n___n

Cool, I didn't know there were lessons on this site too :P

This looks promising, keep up the fight! n___n

[Freija the Dick]

btw, mr.Shadow, du var på NF comments förut va :O känner igen din avator >_>

[Kamiyari]

Jag talar både finska och svenska
Puhun sekä suomea että ruotsia
I speak both finnish and swedish

Jag har redan gjort en thread där man får fråga efter översättning till olika ord och uttryck.
Olen jo perustanut threadin jossa saa kysyä kääntämistä erilaisiin sanoihin ja lauseihin.
I have already done a thread where you can ask translations to different words and sentences.

Om nån undrar värför en finne kan så flytande svenska; jag bor i en tvåspråkig stad och går svensk skola
Jos joku ihmettelee miten Suomalainen osaa niin sulavaa ruotsia; asun kaksikielisessä kaupungissa ja käyn ruotsinkielistä koulua
If somebody wonders how a Finn speaks such fluid swedish; I live in a city where you speak two languages and I study in a swedish school

Jämför. Som ni ser är finska och svenska helt olika
Vertailkaa. Kuten näette, niin suomen kieli ja ruotsin kieli on täysin erilaisia
Compare. As you can see, Finnish and Swedish are COMPLETELY different languages

Varsågod
Olkaa hyvä
There you go

[Dezembre]

I only know 3 lines of swedish:

Jag tycker om svenskarna for att dom har stora snoppar.

Suger min kuk.

Jag kanner en bot, hon heter anna, anna heter hon, och hon kan banna, banna dig sa hart, hon rojer upp i varan kanal, jag vill beratta for dig, jag kanner en bot.

[Neji's women]

I think swedish is weird language... in my school they teach swedish is neccesity... and we must learn swedish... its boring language.... well as a finish person of course i think that...

[Neji's women]

Jag talar både finska och svenska
Puhun sekä suomea että ruotsia
I speak both finnish and swedish

Jag har redan gjort en thread där man får fråga efter översättning till olika ord och uttryck.
Olen jo perustanut threadin jossa saa kysyä kääntämistä erilaisiin sanoihin ja lauseihin.
I have already done a thread where you can ask translations to different words and sentences.

Om nån undrar värför en finne kan så flytande svenska; jag bor i en tvåspråkig stad och går svensk skola
Jos joku ihmettelee miten Suomalainen osaa niin sulavaa ruotsia; asun kaksikielisessä kaupungissa ja käyn ruotsinkielistä koulua
If somebody wonders how a Finn speaks such fluid swedish; I live in a city where you speak two languages and I study in a swedish school

Jämför. Som ni ser är finska och svenska helt olika
Vertailkaa. Kuten näette, niin suomen kieli ja ruotsin kieli on täysin erilaisia
Compare. As you can see, Finnish and Swedish are COMPLETELY different languages

Varsågod
Olkaa hyvä
There you go

Oi.... so here is some one else who speaks finish and i'm not the only one...

[itachi-rock]

Wow all i know is
Hej
tjosan
ses
hur mår du?
göres?
svenska
sverige
hej då

and thats about it

oh and......
helvetet

[Salle]

Det brukar vara svårt att lära engelskor/engelskmän att prata svenska.

[Kabuto_o]

Jag kanner en bot, hon heter anna, anna heter hon, och hon kan banna, banna dig sa hart, hon rojer upp i varan kanal, jag vill beratta for dig, jag kanner en bot.

I know a bot, her name is Anna, Anna is her name, and she can ban, ban you hard, she cleans up our channel, I want to tell you, I know a bot.

Haha, sounds funny in swedish smile-big

[Aman]

Indeed. :amuse

[Jackal Iscariot]

Pat my cat = slicka min fitta
nice rooster = ta fram din stora fetta kuk

:bees

[Aman]

Thanks, Javier! :)

Fitta = Cat
Stora feta kuk = roaster
Balle = Buddy

[Lillufy]

Well nice to make a Swedish learning here so I can allways help you out If you need it so.


Well

contact - kontakta
effective - effektivt
Please - Snälla
Gender: kön
male: man
female: kvinna
kid: kille
girl: tjej
door: dörr
Car: bil
School: skola
listen: lyssna
heart: hjärta

Just a few words there If you wanna know what å,ä.ö means go on the first page.

[Ketchup]

I'm Dutch and I can understand most of the sentences on the first page without looking at the translations...cool :P And I found it funny that they used the name Johan because that's my name too :amuse

[Lovewitches]

I'm Dutch and I can understand most of the sentences on the first page without looking at the translations...cool :P And I found it funny that they used the name Johan because that's my name too :amuse

Vad coolt! :O allt intressant när folk fattar språk de inte talar flytande. Själv fattar man cirka nada av holländska XD.

How cool! Its always interesting when people understand languages they dont speak fluently. Personally I understand just about no dutch XD.

[Aman]

^You're not alone, understanding Dutch is impossible.

^Du är inte ensam, att förstå holländska är omöjligt.

[Lovewitches]

^You're not alone, understanding Dutch is impossible.

^Du är inte ensam, att förstå holländska är omöjligt.

Om jag skulle vilja skulle jag helt klart klara det, men varför fatta ett språk man inte talar? :P

if I wanted to, I could understand it.. but why would I understand a language I dont speak? :P

(most of my swedish is a kind of accent thing, alot of the words might seem out of place but they are not O_O, since I talk like that XD)

[Piss-Munk]

Hallå!

Oj vad spännande. Tänk att jag aldrig använt svenska förut.. :O

Nää skojja bara :P

Swedish rocks yall! Learn it to pick up hot blondes at bars.

[Lucy Elfenlied]

Om ni vill ha hjälp kan jag kanske bistå. Kul för mig att jag kikade förbi. Och jag kan bidra med en gnutta dialekt. ^^


If you would like help I might be able to assist. Funny for me to stumble upon this. And I could assist with a pinch of dialect. ^^

[Inuhitari]

^You're not alone, understanding Dutch is impossible.

^Du är inte ensam, att förstå holländska är omöjligt.

Heej it issnt impossleble It just that the grammer sucks realy hard.

Ik spreek nederlands en zweeds. Zweeds is niet zo moeilijk
Jag talar hollänska och svenska. Svenska är inte so svart.
I speak dutch and swedish. Swedish is not that hard.

[sepe-taichou]

Honestly I don't know if anyone posted this but it is hilarious.

http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish.php

Go there and listen to the lessons. It's funny. You can dowload them too if you'd like, ju right click and "save as" where it says "download lesson x".

Have fun listening.


Svenska är inte so svart.

If you would pronouce it now it would be "Swedish isn't so/that black" if you translated it to english after saying it. You forgot the å's in så and svårt. But maybe it was because of the keyboard layout. :)