Things you wanted to happen in Destiny that didn't happen...

[dspr8_rugged]

The title pretty much tells it all - what are the things that you were expecting in Destiny, but never happened?

I'll finish watching the series before I give my thoughts. How about yours?

[Mindless]

Haha. This one might be silly but...

Super SEED Newtype-mode + Kira Yamato

:P

[ssouske]

cameo appearances of the 3 astray units (red frame, blue frame, and astray out frame):laugh and uhm... i did not get to see much of yzak and dearka... all they did was make me laugh when they had talking scenes...:P

[Chrno]

The death of Shinn, dunno why but I really saw this happening yet it didn't not that its a bad thing but he really had it coming in my opinion oh well.

[crystal-kay]

More Yzak and Dearka action. Some Shiho action as well. The girl was just there. Talia not dying. Rey not dying. Unfortunately, it's all too much to ask.

[Demonic_Ice]

Wow...I got tons of things I wanted in destiny like:
Lunamaria dieing instead of Heine, then meyrin going crazy and taking Lunamaria's place as a soldier..talia not dieing.....stella not dieing (shinn and luna makes an ugly couple)...Auel not dieing....shinn dieing....mia not dieing (so we wouldn't have to waste a full episode for her)....girty lue shown more often.......yzak and dearka more developed...shiho more developed...kira actually started crying again..lol jk

[me_is_david]

Shiho Hahnenfuss.

[Ha-ri]

Great fights, the best fight out of the whole series for me was Freedom Vs. Impluse. You guy saw Shin in that fight, if he fought like that like more of the time people would like him more. Plus most of the other fights were just: astrys blow up, ship's main cannon is blow up some how, and the cool suit just tryed talking out their problems(well atruan and kira aleast). I just was dissapointed in the battles after the Strike Freedom, Jutice, Destiny, and that other one(Ray's suit) appered. They had so much more possibilities, but peronsaly I thougth Shin + Impluse was the best Destiny shoot down his preformance IMO.

[White Reflection]

I want to see Shinn killed Mue in revenge of Stellar. (Although its naive for Shinn to believe some kinda of promise from a MASK MAN)
Shinn ended up killing Athrun (probably due to Athrun's action unintentionally resulted the death/injury of Luna) and Kira finished Shinn off.

[dspr8_rugged]

After watching the series, I personally wanted to see the following events, but apparently, didn't happen:

1. Shinn Asuka and Kira Yamato fighting together as allies after kicking each other's asses (not against each other) in one scene/situation. I don't consider their being "together" in the battle against the Destroy Gundam as one.

2. Lunamaria Hawke dying. Not that I hate her or anything, but actually, believing that GSD is like Zeta Gundam, and Luna is kinda like Emma Sheen, in which she acquires the protagonist's first Gundam, and dies in the end of the series.

3. More of Rey Za Burrel-Neo Lorrnoke "rivalry". They only fought once and it never happened again.

4. More female pilots. Again, in reference to Zeta, wherein there were a lot of them.

[darksage78]

Wooo I have a small list here now... especially after rewatching the last few episodes again.

1. Shinn dying. Nuff said, he was a bad character.
2. Lunamaria dying. Going out with Shinn should have sealed her fate.
3. Cagalli action, sure it was bad enough she and Athrun aren't together anymore. But did she have to sit at Earth and do nothing?
4. Yzak and Dearka screentime.
5. Stellar clone would've been cool.
6. Clyne faction winning against all of ZAFT again. Such a small force against all of ZAFT and EA allies. Speak about the impossible...
7. Longer kickass battles between Athrun and Shinn, Kira and Rey.
8. Rey being the real puppeter instead of being an obedient dog to Gil. Raww was the one who was basically pulling the strings on Patrick.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

1. Lacus to die
2. Cagalli to die
3. Shinn to beat Athrun in the final battle(but not kill him)
4. Kira to die in the Messiah explosion, rather then inexplicably making it out
5. Neo to stay with Djibril
6. Sting to stick around longer
7. Either the Archangel or Eternal destroyed
8. More Yzak and Dearka
9. Neo/Rey rivalry(this could've been awesome, but got ignored later in the series)
10. Orb characters to not be such jerks(Oh no, Dullindal wants to end wars, that bastard!)

[White Reflection]

Back to Neo, how can a heartless villian suddenly be forgived for all the past sins and police around the world with Char's Haya kushi or whatever.. (called "Akastuki" in GSD)
Even Char will jump out of his grave and personally shoot Neo...

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Through the magic of Orb. Forcing children into war? Come join Orb Today, if you happen to resemble former friends, we'll ignore all sin.

[dspr8_rugged]

I forgot to include one thing that I wanted to happen in Destiny...

Lunamaria entering SEED Mode, doing kick-ass stuff with the Impulse. :D

[oka]

More character development for Shin. and I thought he is the main character here, instead Athrun steal the show. Disappointed that till the end Shin remained an angry brat. Put the blame on the author.
More Yzak/Deaka/andy fighting scene. They should end with a more 'OMG OMG they are going to die! I must protect them!' desperate fighting scenes.

Did Mu miraculously survived and reappear just to please his fans?

[NejiHinata]

I wanted a coherent plot that followed a new cast of characters through a new conflict. A story that watched these new protagonists grow in a convincing manner that gave comparisons to the mistakes and growth of the original cast. I wanted an original cast that kept in the background with maybe a few exceptions. I wanted the plot to progress in a steady manner towards an inevitable climax that was the logical outcome of the events. I wanted a clear concise main character that remained the main character throughout the series. I wanted a final ten episodes that felt like the final ten episodes. I wanted a final ten episodes that were ALL building up to a finale. I wanted a final ten episodes where THERE WAS NO SHOPPING AND BALERINA TURN DEATHS. I wanted returning characters to be consistantly in character. I wanted characters to grow logically. I wanted things to happen for obvious reasons. I wanted plot threads to actually lead to places(Stellar and Neo anyone?).

But most of all, I wanted it not to suck.

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

This: http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/8573/destinyvsfreedom0ej.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I mean, is it wrong to think there should have been SOME damage? If it is, then I don't wanna be right.

[Mindless]

It's a nice illustration, but the problem is Shinn wasn't capable of pulling it off.

Shinn was able to take Freedom down because he had time to prepare and outstudy him, alot because of the fact that Freedom was made by ZAFT, so all the data was there. This however wasn't the case with Strike Freedom which was made by the Clyne Faction, so it was impossible for him to know any data of Strike Freedom. He knew what Kira was capable of doing, but he didn't know what the suit was capable of doing.

Besides, in the end, they matched it up in the end like this:

Failed Ultimate Coordinator Experiment vs. Ultimate Coordinator

And...

Failed Apprentice of Athrun vs. Athrun, the Master Himself

That's why it was impossible. But, if that happened it sure would have been awsome to see.

[xeleron]

Failed Apprentice of Athrun vs. Athrun, the Master Himself

LOL.. I love how you put it that way.
that explains why Mr. Shin went to the darkside :P

[Mindless]

Failed Apprentice of Athrun vs. Athrun, the Master Himself

LOL.. I love how you put it that way.
that explains why Mr. Shin went to the darkside :P

Yeah, it's like the biggest Star Wars cliché ever.

Gilbert (Palpatine) is tempting Shinn (Anakim) with his evil doings. Then Athrun (Obi-Wan) tries to keep him on the path of justice, but the hunger for power is greater than his sense of right or wrong. :S

Fuk-u-da has watched too much Star Wars or it's just me jumping to conclusions.

[Nekomimi]

Heh yea I was getting abit of a "Star Wars Vibe" too but I kinda shrugged it off until I saw the emperors throne room on the death star...Errr...I mean Gil's throne in the Fortress... :P

[antoine]

biggest disappointment: kira and yzak not meeting one another face to face...would have been sweet!!!

[zyphere]

-I was definetely hoping for there to be more between Neo and Rey, kind of like the one that existed between Mu and Raww
-Shinn needs to die. The OVA makes him a bit better, but still. I'm surprised he has fans.
-Cagalli was a big upset. Utterly useless for the vast majority of the series, except for fanservice when she's standing around in the opening with an unbuttoned Orb uniform showing her lingerie
-I was hoping for there to be better new characters. Rey, Shinn, and Lunamaria just didn't cut it for me.
-Athrun was also made to seem a lot less of a skilled pilot in the beginning of the series.
-Heine was a decent character, didn't expect him to die.
-More Yzak and Dearka, they still kick ass
-More Neumann! Neuman kicks ass.

[zuhair]

hey..hey since when shinn become athrun apprentice...???
suppose kira die...n all the character in GSD exept shinn n stellar they live happily ever after...dahhhh

[Mindless]

hey..hey since when shinn become athrun apprentice...???

When Shinn started taking Athrun's advice seriously. Shinn was always wavering back and forth between Athrun's teachings and Gilberts teachings.

[Darthkyubi13]

i would like to see more character development from shin and i would off like to see shin realized that dullindal was a little messed up wanting to take away everyones hopes and dreams makeing them live a certain way while he acted has god. Personaly in the end i was looking for more kira faceing shin not a kira faceing ray we saw enough of kira faceing the clone before ray in the last seed so i honestly wanted something a bit different.

[aeriolewinters]

Personally, I would've liked Lacus turning Evil... Ohhh, I can Imagine it now, Rie Tanaka going psycho with her Suigintou voice...

[NU-KazeKage]

kira and lacus getting together and kira owning shinn horribly for episode 34

[Donkey Show]

Kira showing up in general.

[ShangDOh]

Hmm lets see,

Shinn dieing a horrible death
Chiaki Morosawa fired

[Portaljacker]

Obvious one, Shin finds out that Kira not only killed Stellar, but his stray shot was the one that killed his parents. Shin goes even crazier and a 10-minute fight begins! It's just like the Strike vs. Aegis battle that was so intense! If we had that with Strike Freedom vs. Destiny Gundam in the same sort of fight it would be insane! Although Kira wouldn't be berserk for any reason.

[ViolentlyHappy]

I wanted to see somm more Dearka and Miriallia action. You only see both of them hardly, like when Miriallia meets Athrun or when you see some small scenes of Dearka with Yzak. So it makes you wonder what happened after it dropped off after SEED. That's what I wanted to see more of anyway.

[Donkey Show]

This is what would have made Destiny great in my eyes... (I figure I should have edited my other post since I read the question incorrectly, but I'm lazy XD)

1) Cut down on the amount of Gundams... I mean WTF? Almost everyone and their mother had a Gundam at one point in this anime. I mean fucking Andy had one!!!

2) Break away from recreating homages from past Gundam series... (hackatsuki, I'm looking at you...)

3) Eliminate Kira and Lacus' influence over the entire universe with their "Happy Go Lucky" of being right with political affairs. It was just so campy and lame.

4) Remove Kira and Lacus period (or make a small cameo, but that's it). The show never had a chance once Kira showed his face on the rocking chair...

5) Remove the god-abilities of the pilots. Never have I seen such an imbalance of battles since Gundam Wing. Boring and lame. In the UC eras, you can see even elite pilots having trouble with their enemy counterparts, granted they came out victorious in the end for the most part. It just wasn't fun seeing Kira in Strike Freedom going "Yeah LASERSPAM!!!" then accurately hitting every grunts' heads off...

6) Toning down the amazing jump in technology. From regular shields to beam shields and WoL in 3 years? (I know the WoL will be explained in Delta Astray, but still)

7) Focus on Shinn's development as a character... is that hard to ask, Fukuda, is it?!?!

Okay, I've ranted enough. XD

EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing... don't cater the entire show to the fans. That's what truly messed up the anime. Keep people dead and kill more people. :bmgai

[NU-KazeKage]

This is what would have made Destiny great in my eyes... (I figure I should have edited my other post since I read the question incorrectly, but I'm lazy XD)

1) Cut down on the amount of Gundams... I mean WTF? Almost everyone and their mother had a Gundam at one point in this anime. I mean fucking Andy had one!!!

2) Break away from recreating homages from past Gundam series... (hackatsuki, I'm looking at you...)

3) Eliminate Kira and Lacus' influence over the entire universe with their "Happy Go Lucky" of being right with political affairs. It was just so campy and lame.

4) Remove Kira and Lacus period (or make a small cameo, but that's it). The show never had a chance once Kira showed his face on the rocking chair...

5) Remove the god-abilities of the pilots. Never have I seen such an imbalance of battles since Gundam Wing. Boring and lame. In the UC eras, you can see even elite pilots having trouble with their enemy counterparts, granted they came out victorious in the end for the most part. It just wasn't fun seeing Kira in Strike Freedom going "Yeah LASERSPAM!!!" then accurately hitting every grunts' heads off...

6) Toning down the amazing jump in technology. From regular shields to beam shields and WoL in 3 years? (I know the WoL will be explained in Delta Astray, but still)

7) Focus on Shinn's development as a character... is that hard to ask, Fukuda, is it?!?!

Okay, I've ranted enough. XD

EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing... don't cater the entire show to the fans. That's what truly messed up the anime. Keep people dead and kill more people. :bmgai
the laser spam and god abilities was alittle anoying but you got to remember kira is the ultimate coordinater he was desinged to be better already and the the tech jump is cause the coordinaters (sp) ? are really smart ...and lacus only has influence because of her fathers postion ...and her money ...and shes hot who wouldnt follow her

[Donkey Show]

the laser spam and god abilities was alittle anoying but you got to remember kira is the ultimate coordinater he was desinged to be better already and the the tech jump is cause the coordinaters (sp) ? are really smart ...and lacus only has influence because of her fathers postion ...and her money ...and shes hot who wouldnt follow her
Okies, I agree with the Coordinator bit on the technology (kinda overlooked that their scientists are super smart XD), but with Kira, even being the Ultimate Coordinator, shouldn't have came out so damn god-like in Destiny. In SEED he had a rough ass time against the druggies and was totally dominated by Rau with Providence until the end. There needed to be more nail biting battles like that (minus the recycled footage). Neither SF or IJ came out with a scratch in the final battle of Destiny. Lame...

[staradderdragoon]

one thing i hated was that earth keeps on getting saved...for once i would love to see neo genesis or reqiuem hit earth....besides that, i hate the fact that there was another genesis cannon....no originality...and too many damn gundams....i mean even luna has one...

[ooga_booga]

Don't get me wrong, I think Shinn is the worst piece of sh*t ever, but of course we need a new main character for a new series.

1.)The story should've been more centered around Shinn.
2.)Athrun shouldn't have gone back to ZAFT in the first place so there would be more Shinn.
3.)If Athrun didn't go back to ZAFT, there probably would have been more of a chance that he didn't break up with Cagalli. (I hope they get back together T.T They're my fav.)
4.)Cagalli was put into too many helpless situations; almost like the series was full of Cagalli bashing.
5.)They should've explained more about the fossil the first coordinator found in space. (in SEED there's that huge whale-like fossil in the main base of ZAFT)
6.)More Neo/Mwu and Rey encounters like someone else had said earlier.
7.)I think it shouldn't have been too much Kira centered in the end.
8.)Athrun shouldn't have cared so much about Shinn in the end.
9.)Meyrin should've died
10.)Meer shouldn't have died so we wouldn't wasted an episode on her.
11.)More background info on the Logos organization.

and lots of other stuff I can't think about right now.

[Shunsuii]

I think what sould've,could've, and would've happend but didnt, is the start-mid of the series where Kira cut up Athrun's Gundam but Athrun didnt even defend himself (cause he's on the same level as Kira) he sould have had another Strike VS Aegis fight. But I think that Athrun was shown as a weak character and everyone nows he's just as god-like as Kira, but that wasnt shown....so I think if they made a extra season or 2 for this series(never) it should show Athrun's Godlyness.

[ooga_booga]

I think what sould've,could've, and would've happend but didnt, is the start-mid of the series where Kira cut up Athrun's Gundam but Athrun didnt even defend himself (cause he's on the same level as Kira) he sould have had another Strike VS Aegis fight. But I think that Athrun was shown as a weak character and everyone nows he's just as god-like as Kira, but that wasnt shown....so I think if they made a extra season or 2 for this series(never) it should show Athrun's Godlyness.
I totally agree with that! And Athrun was always being bashed by the Minerva crew too!(especially Shinn) I was like WTF when Saviour was cut up into pieces. The WHOLE time he was piloting Saviour, he was pathetic. After all Athrun IS as godlike as Kira.(But I guess nobody can beat the ultimate coordinator....except that cheap ass Shinn with his damn researching)

They should also think of a new humungo weapon OTHER than genesis like staradderdragoon said.

[wherezmytofu]

athrun x cagalli of course :{

[Sesqoo]

athrun x cagalli of course :{

I second that:nod

[Haku_Taker]

I forgot to include one thing that I wanted to happen in Destiny...

Lunamaria entering SEED Mode, doing kick-ass stuff with the Impulse. :D

Amen.

I hope it will happen in the movie next year...

[Rin]

MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPEMENT FOR SHINN!!!

He was the same throughout the series. Ignorant and arogant.He only beat Kira because Kira only aimed for the weapons and the camera, he was tryng to escape instead of fighting back, and Rey helped Shinn with the research on Freedom.

The only thing that saved his chracters was the ova.

[Haku_Taker]

MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPEMENT FOR SHINN!!!

He was the same throughout the series. Ignorant and arogant.He only beat Kira because Kira only aimed for the weapons and the camera, he was tryng to escape instead of fighting back, and Rey helped Shinn with the research on Freedom.

The only thing that saved his chracters was the ova.

correct about that.:wink

[wherezmytofu]

i rather would have cagalli go seed mode, fly from earth and kick shinns ass

[BattousaiMS]

- Cameo Appearence of Canard Pars, Lowe Guele, Gai Murakumo & Edward Harrelson.
- Death of Shinn (the guy deserves to die for being a moron)
- Athuran and Cagalli reconciliation
- More Kira Yamato ass whooping moments

[Haku_Taker]

.
- Death of Shinn (the guy deserves to die for being a moron)

what the hell are u talking about????

[wherezmytofu]

what the hell are u talking about????

shinn, aka the annoying whinny emo boy

[Haku_Taker]

shinn, aka the annoying whinny emo boy

haha, whatever. you really hate Shinn, huh? Well, I don't.

Some humor:

Stan- Athrun

Kyle- Kira

Cartman- Shinn

Kenny- Rey

(Singing) We got out of school... No more school today... We got out of school

Shinn: *farts fire* OHHHH - YOU GUYS, MY ASS! SERIOUSLY.
Athrun: Okay, Shinn. You can stop farting fire now.
Shinn:I would if I could you son of a b*tch!
Kira: Okay, so how do we get my twin sister back?
Shinn: Would you stop going on about your twin sister, Kira! I KNOW it was just a dream! I KNOW I didn't have an anal probe! And I KNOW that I'm not under alien control! *BZAP!*

(singing) I love to sing-a! About the moon-a and the Juna and the spring-a! I love to sing-a! About a sky of blue or a tea for two. (singing)

*Shinn is back to normal*

Athrun: What the hell was that!
Kira: He is under alien control! That thing in his butt is linked up to the visitors.
Shinn: Oh, son of a b*tch.

[Jams]

Shinn getting character development
Shinn being treated like a main character
Strike Freedom being blown up at the end of the series
Neo/Mwu staying dead
Less clip shows
SF and IJ at least getting SOME damage in the final fight (the more damaged the better, as I said for SF a few lines up)
MORE CAGALLI!!! (Athrun staying with Cagalli would be nice too)

Just a few improvements.... I might find more...

[Brandt]

Shinn getting character development
Shinn being treated like a main character
Strike Freedom being blown up at the end of the series
Neo/Mwu staying dead
Less clip shows
SF and IJ at least getting SOME damage in the final fight (the more damaged the better, as I said for SF a few lines up)
MORE CAGALLI!!! (Athrun staying with Cagalli would be nice too)

Just a few improvements.... I might find more...

Pretty much everything quoted, but especially Shin's character development. It's sad how he got rubbed away as a secondary character.

[Haku_Taker]

Shinn getting character development
Shinn being treated like a main character
Strike Freedom being blown up at the end of the series
Neo/Mwu staying dead
Less clip shows
SF and IJ at least getting SOME damage in the final fight (the more damaged the better, as I said for SF a few lines up)
MORE CAGALLI!!! (Athrun staying with Cagalli would be nice too)

Just a few improvements.... I might find more...

Aw, come on. Ok for me that SF and IJ will be damaged but I don't want SF to be blown up. I love SF.

[ssouske]

true... shinn did get bumped out of the equation towards the end... i feel sorry for him... he just stayed as an enraged brat from the start to the end of the series...
damage on SF is also ok... like maybe no heads, and a few cut limbs but no explosion... that would just leave more holes in the story if kira died with SF... for IJ, well it did loose the back pack in the last ep... XD i wish it also lost an arm, the shield, head and prolly part of the torso whan fighting shinn...

@haku
what happened to your post count? :blink or did you only post a lot in areas where posts don't count?:P

[Haku_Taker]

@haku
what happened to your post count? :blink or did you only post a lot in areas where posts don't count?:P

i dunno......

[Jams]

Aw, come on. Ok for me that SF and IJ will be damaged but I don't want SF to be blown up. I love SF.

true... shinn did get bumped out of the equation towards the end... i feel sorry for him... he just stayed as an enraged brat from the start to the end of the series...
damage on SF is also ok... like maybe no heads, and a few cut limbs but no explosion... that would just leave more holes in the story if kira died with SF... for IJ, well it did loose the back pack in the last ep... XD i wish it also lost an arm, the shield, head and prolly part of the torso whan fighting shinn...


Alright, maybe I was showing a bit too much hate for the SF there, I just didn't like it when Kira just beam-spammed all the time when he got it. At least with Freedom he showed some skill (like when fighting Destroy).

@ ssouske - I didn't mean for Kira to die, I just wanted SF to be really badly damaged by the end of the series. Maybe Shinn could defeat Kira and then get beaten by Athrun? I dunno, it just sucked when both SF and IJ came out of the final fight unsccaved while Destiny and Legend got... pretty done over.

Another thing I forgot to mention; some more info on just what the SEED is would be nice (and some conformation on weather there are Newtypes or not in the CE universe).

Athrun putting up MUCH more of a fight against Kira when Athrun was still with ZAFT would have been nice too.

[dspr8_rugged]

Regarding the SF thing...

The fact that SF was unscathed in both Phase-50 and Final Plus was really WTF-inducing. IJ lost a leg and the lifter, so how come it wasn't the same for SF, while in GS, Freedom was really a wreck after the battle with Providence.

Well, to think that when Kira showed up for GSD, he immediately got "god" status, that no pilot in the CE universe can kick his ass, especially when he's piloting the uber-pwning SF, hence the only reason why SF ended up unscathed at the end of GSD.

[Gaara06]

I wanted a coherent plot that followed a new cast of characters through a new conflict. A story that watched these new protagonists grow in a convincing manner that gave comparisons to the mistakes and growth of the original cast. I wanted an original cast that kept in the background with maybe a few exceptions. I wanted the plot to progress in a steady manner towards an inevitable climax that was the logical outcome of the events. I wanted a clear concise main character that remained the main character throughout the series. I wanted a final ten episodes that felt like the final ten episodes. I wanted a final ten episodes that were ALL building up to a finale. I wanted a final ten episodes where THERE WAS NO SHOPPING AND BALERINA TURN DEATHS. I wanted returning characters to be consistantly in character. I wanted characters to grow logically. I wanted things to happen for obvious reasons. I wanted plot threads to actually lead to places(Stellar and Neo anyone?).

But most of all, I wanted it not to suck.
Wow I'm like the exact opposite, I totally despise new characters. I was hoping if they had to introduce new characters(like shin) that we wouldn't have seen him that much, I guess my opinion is biased since Kira is my favorite character but meh..

Things I would have liked to seen:
Shinn's death-Wow, he was totally annoying throughout the whole series and he was being controlled, the only reason he beat Kira was because Kira wasn't even focused on fighting him, he was trying to keep the Archangel Safe and Shinn knew where he would aim, I hate how people make shinn out to be such a great piolet when he really sucked(Not to mention Kira didn't have Lacus with him so he couldn't fight his battles properly ^_^)

More Kira and Lacus-Yes I hate new characters and Kira and Lacus are awsome.

Cagalli and Athrun staying together-I liked this couple alot, t.t

Better fights-The best fight sequence was when Kira showed up in Freedom for the first time in the midst of battle between Minerva and Earth when they left Orb and just wtfpwn'd all of them. No Shinn's battle with Freedom wasn't even a battle, Kira>Shinn without Seed Mode.


Less gurls going after Athrun-He already got Cagalli he don't need no more gurls k.

Shinn's death x2-man I hate shinn, he's so annoying


More Steller-She was cool.


Not making Athrun look so pathetic-He sucked until he beat the Destiny in a split of second(wich is proof Kira>Shinn)

Uhm

More Kira and Lacusx2032840248249-They're amazing.

[Haku_Taker]

Wow I'm like the exact opposite, I totally despise new characters. I was hoping if they had to introduce new characters(like shin) that we wouldn't have seen him that much, I guess my opinion is biased since Kira is my favorite character but meh..

Things I would have liked to seen:
Shinn's death-Wow, he was totally annoying throughout the whole series and he was being controlled, the only reason he beat Kira was because Kira wasn't even focused on fighting him, he was trying to keep the Archangel Safe and Shinn knew where he would aim, I hate how people make shinn out to be such a great piolet when he really sucked(Not to mention Kira didn't have Lacus with him so he couldn't fight his battles properly ^_^)

More Kira and Lacus-Yes I hate new characters and Kira and Lacus are awsome.

Cagalli and Athrun staying together-I liked this couple alot, t.t

Better fights-The best fight sequence was when Kira showed up in Freedom for the first time in the midst of battle between Minerva and Earth when they left Orb and just wtfpwn'd all of them. No Shinn's battle with Freedom wasn't even a battle, Kira>Shinn without Seed Mode.


Less gurls going after Athrun-He already got Cagalli he don't need no more gurls k.

Shinn's death x2-man I hate shinn, he's so annoying


More Steller-She was cool.


Not making Athrun look so pathetic-He sucked until he beat the Destiny in a split of second(wich is proof Kira>Shinn)

Uhm

More Kira and Lacusx2032840248249-They're amazing.

hey, bang bang on ur post on Shinn's death. The hell w/ ya, b'coz he should be CE's Kamille but b'coz of too much fanservice, he was poorly developed as a character.

[ssouske]

hey, bang bang on ur post on Shinn's death. The hell w/ ya, b'coz he should be CE's Kamille but b'coz of too much fanservice, he was poorly developed as a character.

i would not count on that... -_- shin was never C.E.'s Kamile... and kira was never C.E.'s Amuro Ray... kira is kira and shin is shin... -_- even if there are tons of similarities between characters its very unfair to judge kira as amuro and shin as kamile... i am highly dissapointed though because kira got turned into an emotionless freak of nature... while shinn, well... lets just say shinn got the crappy part

[yuuki_kaoin]

Wow...I got tons of things I wanted in destiny like:
.....stella not dieing (shinn and luna makes an ugly couple)...Auel not dieing....shinn dieing....

hehe.. i dunno.. but i would also like:

Lunamaria dying... Neo dying.. Auel not dying... Kira and Lacus dying... Sting dying.. hehe...smile-big

[Shuntensatsu]

I wanted the entire cast to die outside of Yzak and Dullindal(only wanted him to live because he had Ikeda for a seiyuu).

Needless to say I was grossly dissapointed.

[RodMack]

Ok let me see:

-There should've been a final showdown between Kira and Shinn, that would've been sweet.
-Cagalli not being completely useless, fighting for what she believes in instead of just crying.
-Lunamaria Hawke to actually be a good pilot, not the piece of shit that she was.
-Rey to have been an important character from the beginning, not making him useless for almost the entire series until the end, but even then it was too late.

[Birkin]

- Every character that appeared in the original SEED should stay that way (Example: in Destiny, Kira turned into a mindless Lacus drone while Athrun got weak) I'm pretty sure Athrun in Aegis could beat Shinn.

- No super Gundams like Strike Freedom

- More emotions, like when Nicol and Tolle died in SEED. That was indeed sad.

- A better storyline.

- AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, why didn't Yzak and Deakka have their Duel and Buster Gundams?

Can't think of anything else at the moment.

[Marl]

When Jesus Yamato got his precious Freedom blown up (and he appeared to have been killed), he should have fucking STAYED that way!

I was also expecting the last few episodes to be really good, and make up for the horrendous amounts of filler recap episodes.

How wrong I was.

[NU-KazeKage]

kira shouldve killed shin (and never lost for that matter) ....buster and duel where the hell where they...Athrun surprised me by not immeadiatly self detonating the first suit that he got ...and cagalli...wtf

[rchill]

kira and lacus having sex

[Graham Aker]

Shinn shouldnt have been a jerk.
Cagalli should have been assertive. she kicks Yuna in the balls and spits on his face.
Athrun shouldnt have been such a wuss.
Kira should not have lost to Shinn, but the Freedom is still destroyed somehow, like sacrificing itself to shield the Archangel or whatever.
Lunamaria actually having ace piloting skills and can go SEED mode as well. oh and disliking whoever it was that shot Athrun and Meyrin.
Destroyer Gundam living up to the name and not just some shitty fodder MS.
Earth Alliance having star pilot/s.
Natarle is redeemed, when some kind of Black Box is recovered and ends up in Murrue's hands.

Rey vs. Mwu final battle. Rey didnt really care for Rau, especially after he knew he wanted to destroy everything, he hated him. He also doesnt like Mwu very much, and thinks his existence is a nuisance and that he should have died in the last war. Mwu destroys/kills Rey.(I wanted to see the Akatsuki fight against boss level MS)
Lunamaria vs. Athrun final battle. Impulse is upgraded so that it can fight toe to toe with the MS like the Infinite Justice, spec-wise. Athrun wins after a very hard battle.
Shinn vs. Kira final battle. Kira makes him realize that Gilberts plan is wrong, they argue until Kira wins lol.
Shinn gets to shoot Gilbert, who was the one who looked after him after Orb, after Gil's plotting is revealed, how he purposefully dropped that Plant thingy on Earth to start this conflict so as to use it for his Destiny plan.
Shinn gets to survive.
Talia Gladys dies with Gil.

[Inferied]

kira and lacus having sex
Kira and Athrun having sex.

[Ters]

ANYTHING HERE: http://kenkoudaa.sakura.ne.jp/page023.html

But specifically this:

http://kenkoudaa.sakura.ne.jp/page181.html

Watch the 3rd scenario. Watch the others too but specifically #3.

[SkitZoFrenic]

Easy answer...Shinn's Death. I LOVED the ending of the actual series..where Shinn is sitting there..crying like a little bitch because he got lost. And WTF...why did he get to hook up w/ the smex known as Lunamaria!?...Honestly...this character = phail...(Episode "51" kinda ruined it for me...cuz it essentially made Shinn become accepted/a "good guy" w/ Kira & Lacus...which is just BULLSHIT...)

[Biolink]

Shinn shouldnt have been a jerk.
Shinn vs. Kira final battle. Kira makes him realize that Gilberts plan is wrong, they argue until Kira wins lol.

There's something slightly wrong with this IMO.

Shinn had every right to be upset at Orb.Total display of incompetence from them,near the end of Seed all the way through Destiny.

Secondly,there was nothing wrong at all with the Destiny Plan.Don't like Kira and Lacus confuse you.

The plan worked on Mars in Delta Astray and Mars has never had a war in its history(And its home to both Coordinators and Naturals).Lastly,Fukada says that it is CE's problem solver so that statement is absolute unless Sunrise decides to override him.
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For the record,I wanted Kira to die,I wanted to Shinn to ram straight through "super hoe" Lunamaria,I wanted Shinn to murder "the middle man" AKA Athrun Zala.

[KLoWn]

I wanted to hear the goddamn epic OST from SeeD but got stuck with some shit for music that a retarded monkey could've done better.

Also Shinn shot dead would've made me happy as hell, one of the most annoying idiots ever to be displayed on my pc-screen.

kira and lacus having sex
That would've been good too :amuse

[Lord Yu]

Kira Yamato having sex with Athrun and then getting violently decapitated by Amuro Rey.

[kulgan18]

Having the creators apologize for making this shit.

[Kurumie Tsurashima]

To the person who said somethin about Natarle...
Huh? I thought Natarle died in season 1 (SEED) with Flay in that escape pod.

Only one I can think of is, altering Meer's death. Lacus would recieve word from someone (idk who lol) that Meer was in an accident and in critical condition. Lacus would meet Meer in the hospital, and Meer would say the same things she said in her initial death scene, plus, "Lacus...I'm sorry for stealing your glory." Then she would breathe her last. Actually, that scene would be better in an OVA or something; thus an actual episode of the TV series wouldn't be wasted; it's be in an OVA.

Hmm...also, Gilbert, Talia, Rey and Rey's younger brother/clone would die all together.

Also, I'd make Yuna Roma Seiran less of a jerk so he wouldn't have to die a brutal death (crushed by a Gundam!!!) and I would either:
a.) Keep Mwu dead so AndyMurrue could happen
or
b.) Make Aisha (from season 1) have survived the accident that originally claimed her life so she can be reunited with Andy. (a happier ending than the former)

The last one is a fat chance tho. xD;

Sting dying..
Do you mean Sting NOT dying? Because Sting DOES die in the series (along with Auel, and Stellar being the last of Phantom Pain to die)

[Biolink]

- AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, why didn't Yzak and Deakka have their Duel and Buster Gundams?

Old post,but bleh.Duel and Buster did not belong to Yzak and Dearka.They were stolen from the Earth Alliance,so they were most likely given back.

[kulgan18]

Oh that reminds me, meer death was the most stupidest thing EVER.
You have KIRA, athrun and MU in a fucking gundam standing there YET, they fail to secure the freaking area and a dying woman almost kills lacus. GJ.

Seriusly imo kira yamato shouldnt have been made main character half way through OR they shouldnt have introduced shinn in the first place.

In fact, the should have concentrate on Athrun period, and tell the story from his perspective(like they did in the movies apparently). The series was just a fucking mess. You could tell that they were just mading shit up as they went along, Like having shinn character development dissapear just so they could make him an antagonist for kira.
Kira and athrun "dying", were just ultimate BS and an insult for the audience.

The problems of GSD are not fixed just by changing the freaking ending. It had deep problems from the beginning. They probably changed things because of the fan polls.

[Crimson Dragoon]

A Mark XXXIII Bolo blowing everything up in that shitty universe.

[Gaara816]

Cagalli + Athrun

didnt really happen, but she does still have the ring....

[Graham Aker]

Shinn had every right to be upset at Orb.Total display of incompetence from them,near the end of Seed all the way through Destiny.
Of course he had the right, doesnt mean he has to be such a jerk about it.
Also in Destiny, it wasnt until they lost the War that he saw things differently, or so we are led to believe.
Rey on the other hand actually saw through the bad that he was fighting for, and he was redeemed.... first! So I think that was very wrong considering Shinn was supposed to be Destiny's main character. He's supposed to get first dibs at redemption.

The plan worked on Mars in Delta Astray and Mars has never had a war in its history(And its home to both Coordinators and Naturals).Lastly,Fukada says that it is CE's problem solver so that statement is absolute unless Sunrise decides to override him.
Didnt watch Astray. Though doesnt the plan take away a persons free will? Kinda like communism or some crazy political shit.

Huh? I thought Natarle died in season 1 (SEED) with Flay in that escape pod.
She did. Lawl, I mean a flight recorder that recorded what transpired in the cockpit. Murrue might be under the impression that Natarle was the one who shot Mwu.

[Rukia]

- Lunamaria/Athrun
- Shinn's death
- Stellar and Sting to not be thrown away like fillers.
- The Freedom should never have been beaten by the Impulse
- Cagalli and Yuna marriage
- Kira hooks up with Lacus or moves on
- Kira to show some personality instead of being a damn zombie all the time

[Kyasurin Yakuto]

More Yzak and Dearka action.

Agreed.

And also, they made the Earth Forces look REALLY bad in Destiny. :/ They made them look more evil than they should have in my opinion.

Also, I really wish they wouldn't bring back characters that I thought had died(Mwu). -_- He should have stayed dead and it would have been more meaningful that way.

[O]

I wanted Char to appear with the Nightingale and kill everyone, putting an end to the disgrace that is Destiny.

[Centeolt]

Priority:
Shinn's death
More Athrun + Meyrin
Kira and Lacus showing their love with at least a kiss
More Yzak and Dearka action.
More Meyrin

Less important:
More Meer background
Less recap
Luna still considering Shinn like a jerk

[crabman]

I wanted them to not bring back Mu La Flaga. He was the single most bad ass guy in the entire Gundam Seed series, nobody else came close to how bad ass he was. And he died in quite possibly the most badass way possible. They brought him back as probably one of the worst gundam villains ever. His resurrection is literally kanon to me, I seriously just see a big black box, and hear BEEEEEPPPP whenever i see him on the screen.

[Biolink]

[quote]Rey on the other hand actually saw through the bad that he was fighting for, and he was redeemed.... first!

Bad,BAD writing.So 1 episode Rey is cool with Dullindal,and thinks he isn't Rau,then 1 episode later he thinks he is Rau again,and finally after another Oscar winning speech from Kira he assassinates the man that was basically a father to him and then apologizes to him.Saw through his evil I guess :wink

Didnt watch Astray. Though doesnt the plan take away a persons free will? Kinda like communism or some crazy political shit.

No it doesn't take away somebody's free will.It's just as simple as selecting a job that is best suited for you at birth.It reduces that hate from Naturals that stem from the fact that Coordinator's seem to be good at everything.It levels the playing field a bit more.

Applying real world logic to the plan does make it seem a bit more harsh than it really is,but remember this is the CE world we are talking about.The World where war has been going on longer than when the anime first started,the World where treaties are broken by the people who proposed them,The World that is ready to collapse in on itself,and constantly has different factions firing off WMD's at each other.

If you could stop the death toll in the Millions as opposed to the Billions and level the playing field why wouldn't you?

There is nothing wrong with Lacus's way of thinking if it weren't so badly misplaced.The wars will continue to go on,and possibly Billions will die,but maybe mankind will have come to realize that what they are doing is wrong.Assuming mankind is even still around.

Who even decided that the plan was evil in the first place?Oh...That's right.Lacus,Kira and co. finding some random notebook in outer space that vaguely explains the Destiny Plan and how it would have "Unneeded People" and translates "Unneeded People" into people dieing in the Destiny Plan or people with less potential being thrown out of the society.Thanks to Fukada we find out later on that the Unneeded People in the Destiny Plan are the one's that go against the mass.Considering that much of the world was strongly considering the Destiny Plan and only 3 nations(IIRC) outright rejected the plan,would it be proper to say that Lacus,Kira,and co. are exactly the kind of people the notebook was talking about?