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[Serp]

:argh FMA9 you got the 1000 post, I was trying to get that :(

[Levithian]

:argh FMA9 you got the 1000 post, I was trying to get that :(

I will let you get number 2,000 then to be sure....I did not know you wanted it.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Sorry I haven't been on much guys. :sweadrop Sister is married. :hearts What are we talking about today? btw, we got a new smile today! :high could it be drugs? Is this smile retarded? What could it be?

[Levithian]

Sorry I haven't been on much guys. :sweadrop Sister is married. :hearts What are we talking about today? btw, we got a new smile today! :high could it be drugs? Is this smile retarded? What could it be?

Yeah I think its a smile on drugs, anyway we were Talking about Kai's potential and the number of episodes, but feel free to bring up any Blood+ subject of real interest.

[sori]

Hinata, did you get the songs?:amuse

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@FMA9 Cool. I like Kai. :ohpek

@sori Yes I did. Thanks! I o u big time. :amuse

[sori]

No problem, dear:amuse

[Levithian]

Blood+ really effects you emotionally, you tend to really care about the characters, empathize and suffer with them...It was especially so with me, when I thought Saya was going to kill herself episodes before the end...I was sad for Kai, then at the end Diva made me sad for her.

[sori]

Hai, anime like it does tend to affect how you feel while watching it.

[nejii]

*gasp*it lives

[Sapphire]

blood+ indeed effects emotionally :cry

just watched eps 41 ... kai & diva scenes scared me abit
it's dilemma :P I want kai become chevalier too but I want him become saya's
not diva's ... but kai know what's the best he should do for riku, is just being himself, not become a chevalier nomatter how much the temptation

:ruri i love kai :kloff

[TenshiNeko]

Ya love Kai?:oh Well, I love Kai, too.......like a brother. He was really sweet and nice. I'd love to have a brother like Kai. As far as romance, sorry, to me Kai is just not hot.:(

[Levithian]

Ya love Kai?:oh Well, I love Kai, too.......like a brother. He was really sweet and nice. I'd love to have a brother like Kai. As far as romance, sorry, to me Kai is just not hot.:(

Nice guys finish last in your opinion?:amuse

[Sapphire]

@TenshiNeko,
it's okay you think kai not hot, I don't force anyone here have similar taste like mine, people have differences!!! I respect ur opinion :) about kai ... though I don't understand for some people why nice & sweet guys considered not hot, I personally love nice & sweet guys ^^

so in my eyes, :ohpek KAI is the HOTTEST GUY in BLOOD+
he's not just a wonderful brother figure, but he's also great guy:<3
kai is not super-power like Hagi and Solomon (these chevaliers of course are awesome), but he's strong in other ways like normal humans which I can relate to

or maybe my definitions of :hoho "hot" & "strong" probably different than others' :P

anyway, I just watched eps 42 and I love hagi vs solomon ... chevaliers fight for saya ... yummy fight!!!:nuts and kai/mao is great together too:<3

EDIT:
just watched eps 43
kyaaaa Kai many appeared, he's so kind to everyone ^^
I like also for some touching scenes about "dying" and "friends" in it

[TenshiNeko]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I PREFER nice, sweet guys. They CAN be hot. (jeez, I think Ukitake is the hottest guy in anime, and he's probably the nicest, too) I just don't feel that way about Kai....no "sparks" at all for me.....maybe because he's so entirely the opposite of stoic...maybe kinda too much so for me.

Ok, so Haji is stoic to the extreme, but it's always so obvious what he's feeling...to me at least. And he is VERY nice and sweet. Doesn't anyone else see that in him? That's why I like him so much. Not his strength, but his sweetness, and the extreme depth of his feelings... makes Kai seem almost shallow in comparison:( the fact that Haji is sooooo handsome doesn't hurt either

[Levithian]

I can see why your into Haji, it was really unfair of the writers to make Kai compete with him especially considering the situation, but Kai still had much to offer, what a pity.

[~ Son of SPARDA ~]

Why not tell everyone what you like abut Diva?

What I like about her??? Let's see, she's misunderstood, like I oftentimes am; she kicked ass ever so consistently all throughout the series (she put a major hurt on Solomon like it was nothing AND kicked his limp body afterwards, Joe Peschi style); she has a personality that's the absolute sexiest in a sinister, unpredictable, kiss you or kill you kind of way (if that makes any sense); and despite her overtly malevolent ways, she was still capable of love, if only for her own children. Plus, that singing voice of hers, the one in the English-dubbed anime, was so entrancing and eerily divine I'd get goosebumps and not even feel them; and sometimes I'd even get light headed after rewinding it on my DVR and listening to it ten times over... I could listen to her voice all day every day.

It's undeniable... Diva is godly.

[sori]

Yes, Kai does have a lot to offer, but with the writers, we never know what's going through their heads or the reasons behind what they do.

[Serp]

Ok first things first I like Haji alot :zaru

Haji was a little slave boy sold for a loaf of bread, when he was 8 years old. Even if he loved Saya he must of been pissed at being a slave, knowing he has to serve her to he dies, so when Saya kills him he must be like yay I'm free. Saya turns him and is like lol now your nigh immortal and my slave for ever :evil, and this is why Haji looks so gloom all the time. :LOS

[Levithian]

Ok first things first I like Haji alot :zaru

Haji was a little slave boy sold for a loaf of bread, when he was 8 years old. Even if he loved Saya he must of been pissed at being a slave, knowing he has to serve her to he dies, so when Saya kills him he must be like yay I'm free. Saya turns him and is like lol now your nigh immortal and my slave for ever :evil, and this is why Haji looks so gloom all the time. :LOS

I like Haji too...but I don't think Haji wanted to be free once he was changed.:amuse

[~ Son of SPARDA ~]

Ok first things first I like Haji alot :zaru

Haji was a little slave boy sold for a loaf of bread, when he was 8 years old. Even if he loved Saya he must of been pissed at being a slave, knowing he has to serve her to he dies, so when Saya kills him he must be like yay I'm free. Saya turns him and is like lol now your nigh immortal and my slave for ever :evil, and this is why Haji looks so gloom all the time. :LOS

That actually kinda' makes sense... For someone who was supposedly boiling at the rim with so much love for Saya, he sure didn't look too happy to be with her all of the time.

[Levithian]

@~ Son of SPARDA ~ and Serp, you guys really think Haji's depressed because he has to be around her and be her servant, so some of what he says, where just lines in your opinions...to hide the way he feels deep down?:amuse

[TenshiNeko]

Back then many poor people actually sold their kids because they couldn't afford them.:(

Although Haji was purchased as a boy, he was purchased as Saya's companion, not her slave. He wasn't required to follow her orders. It's so obvious he was always in love with her.......you guys can't see it? When he tried to pick the flower for her, and fell to his death, he was doing it because he loved her, and didn't want her to be sad without a present for Joel. Saya was trying to save him with her blood. She didn't know then that it would make him a chevalier. A chevalier feels a strong desire to protect and serve the queen(haji told riku this)....but Haji felt that way before,too.

I don't see him as being either pissed or gloomy. Ok, well he wasn't exactly cheerful, but that was just how he was. He didn't know how to lighten up. Don't forget that Haji had to spend 10x as much time without Saya as with her. She would be awake for like 3 yrs, then hibernate for 30 yrs. I know he always felt her with him, but that's still gotta be lonely....and he didn't sleep, so would seem twice as long a time.

If Haji wanted Saya to smile, he should've smiled at her a little. Maybe he was afraid he'd reveal his true feelings. I couldn't tell if he felt their relationship should be whatever Saya wanted it to be, or if he thought she might actually reject him........ maybe even send him away.
Haji said he never regretted becoming Saya's chevalier. I don't think that was a lie at all. Then he could stay with the woman he loved until the end of time... And before their fight didn't Haji actually thank Amshel for buying him? Something like, "I thank the person you used to be for doing so"

Long post. Sorry. I do go on sometimes

[Levithian]

Back then many poor people actually sold their kids because they couldn't afford them.:(

Although Haji was purchased as a boy, he was purchased as Saya's companion, not her slave. He wasn't required to follow her orders. It's so obvious he was always in love with her.......you guys can't see it? When he tried to pick the flower for her, and fell to his death, he was doing it because he loved her, and didn't want her to be sad without a present for Joel. Saya was trying to save him with her blood. She didn't know then that it would make him a chevalier. A chevalier feels a strong desire to protect and serve the queen(haji told riku this)....but Haji felt that way before,too.

I don't see him as being either pissed or gloomy. Ok, well he wasn't exactly cheerful, but that was just how he was. He didn't know how to lighten up. Don't forget that Haji had to spend 10x as much time without Saya as with her. She would be awake for like 3 yrs, then hibernate for 30 yrs. I know he always felt her with him, but that's still gotta be lonely....and he didn't sleep, so would seem twice as long a time.

If Haji wanted Saya to smile, he should've smiled at her a little. Maybe he was afraid he'd reveal his true feelings. I couldn't tell if he felt their relationship should be whatever Saya wanted it to be, or if he thought she might actually reject him........ maybe even send him away.
Haji said he never regretted becoming Saya's chevalier. I don't think that was a lie at all. Then he could stay with the woman he loved until the end of time... And before their didn't Haji actually thank Amshel for buying him? Something like, "I thank the person you used to be for doing so"

Long post. Sorry. I do go on sometimes

Overall I agree.

[Sapphire]

hagi is very sweet and nice:) too

but Kai still the best :P well to me at least

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@tenshineko I think that, *takes deep breath*


1. Haji's personality. He was sold to Amsel. I think that the fact that he could not see his parents anymore. Or that he had no family, may have made him like this.

2. Haji and Saya Haji came to live with Jeol, Haji and Saya had a few fights. He thought that ther relationship would end. So, tenshineko is right.

I agree with what tenshineko said. :nod

@polaris Me too. Kai is hot! :ohpek

[Sapphire]

@hinata :hug
I'm so happy you also think Kai is hot :nuts

just watched eps 45 ... I've got many things to say

I was scared moses hunting and wanted to kill Kai
but thank goodness:wOOt Kai safe
kyaaa X3he takes his shirt-off & smart to defend himself in the park
Kai & Saya friendship :kloff

I don't hate moses, I understand his motive trying to save carmen
I totally dislike james, yeah I know it's bcoz he's jealous & hurt for diva prefer kai to be her chevalier, but still I don't like james
poor carmen & moses!!! :cry the way they died so touching:cry
poor Lulu!!!:cry but I'm glad Kai & Saya gonna be there to take care of Lulu

such a very touching eps :cry:)

[~ Son of SPARDA ~]

Back then many poor people actually sold their kids because they couldn't afford them.:(

Although Haji was purchased as a boy, he was purchased as Saya's companion, not her slave. He wasn't required to follow her orders. It's so obvious he was always in love with her.......you guys can't see it? When he tried to pick the flower for her, and fell to his death, he was doing it because he loved her, and didn't want her to be sad without a present for Joel. Saya was trying to save him with her blood. She didn't know then that it would make him a chevalier. A chevalier feels a strong desire to protect and serve the queen(haji told riku this)....but Haji felt that way before,too.

I don't see him as being either pissed or gloomy. Ok, well he wasn't exactly cheerful, but that was just how he was. He didn't know how to lighten up. Don't forget that Haji had to spend 10x as much time without Saya as with her. She would be awake for like 3 yrs, then hibernate for 30 yrs. I know he always felt her with him, but that's still gotta be lonely....and he didn't sleep, so would seem twice as long a time.

If Haji wanted Saya to smile, he should've smiled at her a little. Maybe he was afraid he'd reveal his true feelings. I couldn't tell if he felt their relationship should be whatever Saya wanted it to be, or if he thought she might actually reject him........ maybe even send him away.
Haji said he never regretted becoming Saya's chevalier. I don't think that was a lie at all. Then he could stay with the woman he loved until the end of time... And before their fight didn't Haji actually thank Amshel for buying him? Something like, "I thank the person you used to be for doing so"

Long post. Sorry. I do go on sometimes

Well, since you put it like that, I guess I can see how Hagi truly did love Saya despite his gloomy disposition.

[TenshiNeko]

Well, I was inspired by the Naruto-But Can They Sing? and Bleach-But Can They Sing? threads. Here is some Blood+ but can they singsmile-big

I've only gotten a few so far. Tell me if you like it. ....I tried not to use all the same music as from the other threads, since some of the seiyuus are the same.

Kai....Hiroyuki Yoshino
http://www.imeem.com/groups/zaCnSKwF/music/7Fq7WQ1H/yoshino_hiroyuki_saiga_mitsuki_hashire_omou_mama/
Yoshino Hiroyuki & Saiga Mitsuki ..Hashire omou Mama from Loveless
http://www.imeem.com/people/uA7aKtS/music/z9t9p2oJ/yoshino_hiroyuki_dynamite_of_youth/ Dynamite of Youth
Album:vitaminX
And some YouTube cuz I couldn't find these on imeem:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqefL8v6Lkk OP2 Cluster edge
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AorL8csxEN0 Hiroyuki Yoshino (Kai) Cluster edge ED 1
from what I could get from youtube ones, he is with group. Members of group: Hiro Shimono, Jun Fukuyama, Daisuke Kishio, Hiroyuki Yoshino

Akiko Yajima...Riku and Diva
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Do3J_xbwRbE The Song of My Contract with My Mother or japan title:
Mama to no Oyakusoku Jōkō no Uta..Singers: Shinnosuke Nohara (Akiko Yajima)
http://www.imeem.com/people/Nqykq_/music/ZhopAXum/akiko_yajima_zutto_himitsu/ Zutto Himitsu from Gundam W Operation 3

Kentarou Itou.... Akihiro Okamura(the reporter guy) also Renji in Bleach and Tsuchiura in Kiniro no corda
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/hJjqbBdY/la_corda_doro_believe_tsuchiura/
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/MZg3VzgO/la_corda_doro_taiyou_no_ryuushi_tsuchiura/
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/bxMLIhTf/la_corda_doro_one_days_memory_tsuchiura/
I didn't include his songs as Renji, cuz I figured everybody had heard those already. Anime news network says he does theme song to Hamtaro. Doesn't say if OP or ED. See if you can pick out his voice in the group. I sure can't!
http://www.imeem.com/people/uqFjiJ/music/mFTKluP2/tottoko_hamutaro_openingtottoko_no_uta/ Hamtaro OP
http://www.imeem.com/people/ZueISVp/music/-KUBurAP/hamtaro_hamtaro_ending_song_full_versionmp3/ Hamtaro ED

Katsyuki Konishi...Haji
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/IlvoFMaL/la_corda_doro_liebe_shinobu/ as Ousaki in Kiniro no Corda
http://www.imeem.com/katleev/music/UspYVVwe/kyou_kara_maou_harukanaru_tabi_time_river_shibuya_ shouri/ Time River from Kyou Kara Maou
http://www.imeem.com/groups/2Y__bUZi/music/2pABMCow/konishi_katsuyuki_chikai/
http://www.imeem.com/people/AbhfSu/music/PEw_nDrB/konishi_katsuyuki_mibu_kyoushirou_kinen/ Kinen from Samurai Deeper Kyo
http://www.imeem.com/people/JC26mU/music/cZtjWQf1/kakihara_tetsuya_konishi_katsuyuki_break_through_t he_dream/ Artist: Kakihara Tetsuya & Konishi Katsuyuki .. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann .. Kamina and Simon character song -pop'n music edit

[Jaded Heart]

Over all my favorite male characters are:
Solomon > Haji > Kai > Riku

I've always taken a liking to Solomon. Despite being Diva's chevalier and being on the opposing side of Saya he was always kind and sincere to her and in the end proved he had a good heart. My friend was so obsessed she even made a sim of Solomon. He looks so cute.

:awesome

[sori]

Over all my favorite male characters are:
Solomon > Haji > Kai > Riku

I've always taken a liking to Solomon. Despite being Diva's chevalier and being on the opposing side of Saya he was always kind and sincere to her and in the end proved he had a good heart. My friend was so obsessed she even made a sim of Solomon. He looks so cute.

:awesome

:amuse I quite agree, he was supposed to help Diva kill Saya, but he..well I've not seen that episode for a while, but I believe he loved Saya so he helped her as much as he could

[Jaded Heart]

Yes. He loved Saya deeply and for a while wanted her only for himself but he realized that if he really loved her he should let her go and he did. Because he loved her, he risked his life against Diva and the other chevaliers. He turned out to be a really great guy.

:ohpek

[sori]

Yes, he was a really nice guy.
:ohpek

Seems to me that all the really good ones end up with a bad ending, what do you think?

[sori]

Yes, he was a really nice guy.
:ohpek

Seems to me that all the really good ones end up with a bad ending, what do you think?

[Jaded Heart]

It does seem to end up that way. Solomon was a sweet heart and he didn't get his happy ending.

I think it might be because all the good guys care too much for others and their loved ones that they are selfless and give their lives in a heartbeat for another's well being. hey just can't stand to see another die. It's sweet and noble. Yet their heroic and just deeds are not always recognized or truly appreciated.

[sori]

Exactly, there are actually very few who do recognize it or appreciate it in my opinion.


Seems I'm not the only one who's having trouble with the boards:sweatdrop

[Jaded Heart]

Unfortunately so. Many charaters in other anime series end up seeing the seem fate. Not all of them but a large sum of them. Poor Solomon. He didn't deserve the fate he was given.

Yush. The Forum is running extremely slow. It's taking forever to load my posts and all the pages.

:uwah

[sori]

Most of them don't deserve the fate they get:( But that's how the writers are and I don't think we can do much about it, but it does make us remember the characters better sometimes.
I think most people are experiencing difficulties, maybe even everyone.

I was told it did this last year before the board crashed:(

I know:(

[TenshiNeko]

He was sweet in some ways, but...Solomon himself admitted he'd lost any regard he'd had for humans. So he'd save Saya, but would not have helped anyone else. Saya wouldn't let him stay if he couldn't get along. Solomon would've ended up alone and sad. Better a hero's death than that:(

Oh, and Solomon can sing too.:) Kouji Tsujitani
http://www.imeem.com/people/gCvyp8/music/j9z9zQLq/tsujitani_kouji_never_ending_dreams/
http://www.imeem.com/people/laDMBr/music/_EyE501x/miroku_tsujitani_kouji_feat_sango_kuwashima_houko_ shi/

If you want me to stop just say so.

Jaded Heart...your title is in Korean, yes? Gonna make me go to the translator site for it?:huh

[Jaded Heart]

Perhaps the writers give them such terrible fates, or honorable deaths so they will always be remembered for their noble deeds and the people. Either that or maybe the writers are just trying to mess with us. :o

Yeah, people in the CB were talking about how this happened last year. They said it really sucked.

>.<

Oh the Korean, it means, 'Queen of Nerds' :love

Lol, Solomon can sing. I love those 'but can they sing'. It kinda reminds me of American Idol in a way.

[sori]

They do have their ways of making us remember a character, even some of the more minor characters are really rememorable.

Just as long as it doesn't happen until after monday:sweat

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@hinata :hug
I'm so happy you also think Kai is hot :nuts

just watched eps 45 ... I've got many things to say

I was scared moses hunting and wanted to kill Kai
but thank goodness:wOOt Kai safe
kyaaa X3he takes his shirt-off & smart to defend himself in the park
Kai & Saya friendship :kloff

I don't hate moses, I understand his motive trying to save carmen
I totally dislike james, yeah I know it's bcoz he's jealous & hurt for diva prefer kai to be her chevalier, but still I don't like james
poor carmen & moses!!! :cry the way they died so touching:cry
poor Lulu!!!:cry but I'm glad Kai & Saya gonna be there to take care of Lulu

such a very touching eps :cry:)


Yes it was. Poor Lulu... Waaa... And thank you! I saw that eps too.
Tell me what you think of Kai, besides the fact that he's hot.

[Levithian]

Well, I was inspired by the Naruto-But Can They Sing? and Bleach-But Can They Sing? threads. Here is some Blood+ but can they singsmile-big

I've only gotten a few so far. Tell me if you like it. ....I tried not to use all the same music as from the other threads, since some of the seiyuus are the same.

Kai....Hiroyuki Yoshino
http://www.imeem.com/groups/zaCnSKwF/music/7Fq7WQ1H/yoshino_hiroyuki_saiga_mitsuki_hashire_omou_mama/
Yoshino Hiroyuki & Saiga Mitsuki ..Hashire omou Mama from Loveless
http://www.imeem.com/people/uA7aKtS/music/z9t9p2oJ/yoshino_hiroyuki_dynamite_of_youth/ Dynamite of Youth
Album:vitaminX
And some YouTube cuz I couldn't find these on imeem:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqefL8v6Lkk OP2 Cluster edge
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AorL8csxEN0 Hiroyuki Yoshino (Kai) Cluster edge ED 1
from what I could get from youtube ones, he is with group. Members of group: Hiro Shimono, Jun Fukuyama, Daisuke Kishio, Hiroyuki Yoshino

Akiko Yajima...Riku and Diva
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Do3J_xbwRbE The Song of My Contract with My Mother or japan title:
Mama to no Oyakusoku Jōkō no Uta..Singers: Shinnosuke Nohara (Akiko Yajima)
http://www.imeem.com/people/Nqykq_/music/ZhopAXum/akiko_yajima_zutto_himitsu/ Zutto Himitsu from Gundam W Operation 3

Kentarou Itou.... Akihiro Okamura(the reporter guy) also Renji in Bleach and Tsuchiura in Kiniro no corda
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/hJjqbBdY/la_corda_doro_believe_tsuchiura/
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/MZg3VzgO/la_corda_doro_taiyou_no_ryuushi_tsuchiura/
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/bxMLIhTf/la_corda_doro_one_days_memory_tsuchiura/
I didn't include his songs as Renji, cuz I figured everybody had heard those already. Anime news network says he does theme song to Hamtaro. Doesn't say if OP or ED. See if you can pick out his voice in the group. I sure can't!
http://www.imeem.com/people/uqFjiJ/music/mFTKluP2/tottoko_hamutaro_openingtottoko_no_uta/ Hamtaro OP
http://www.imeem.com/people/ZueISVp/music/-KUBurAP/hamtaro_hamtaro_ending_song_full_versionmp3/ Hamtaro ED

Katsyuki Konishi...Haji
http://www.imeem.com/shadowqueen/music/IlvoFMaL/la_corda_doro_liebe_shinobu/ as Ousaki in Kiniro no Corda
http://www.imeem.com/katleev/music/UspYVVwe/kyou_kara_maou_harukanaru_tabi_time_river_shibuya_ shouri/ Time River from Kyou Kara Maou
http://www.imeem.com/groups/2Y__bUZi/music/2pABMCow/konishi_katsuyuki_chikai/
http://www.imeem.com/people/AbhfSu/music/PEw_nDrB/konishi_katsuyuki_mibu_kyoushirou_kinen/ Kinen from Samurai Deeper Kyo
http://www.imeem.com/people/JC26mU/music/cZtjWQf1/kakihara_tetsuya_konishi_katsuyuki_break_through_t he_dream/ Artist: Kakihara Tetsuya & Konishi Katsuyuki .. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann .. Kamina and Simon character song -pop'n music edit

I' going to check this out...seems interesting, I would like to hear Diva's VA sing other music.




As far as Solomon, you know he came close at one point to convincing Saya after she slapped him, of letting him try to kill Diva, and perhaps who knows, but then Haji showed up, right when Saya was weakening. For a while there, before starting to act in a noble fashion...Solomon was persistent, I will give him that much.

[Sapphire]

I've just watched eps 46 ...
the only thing I don't like is how sad Solomon died, poor solomon!!!:cry
some of my fav characters (riku, moses, solomon) died in this anime

:)I like hagi/saya romantic scene in train, and little cute moment kai/mao
glad to see Lulu could cheer up smile-big with mao

but I love the most about this eps bcoz :kloffmany wonderful moments of Kai/Saya (especially :rurithey're laughing together, kai saved her from train almost hit her, sitting together with their phrase "nankurunaisa" and then saya not afraid anymore holding him)
I know they won't end up together but:high still I love Kai/Saya whether platonic or romantic kinda of ways

*and I hope you all not bored to my posts about I'm fond of Kai/Saya friendship




Tell me what you think of Kai, besides the fact that he's hot.

I'm not smart to explain it in english sorry, but I'll try to say what I think of Kai ... :<3he's not just hot ... he's not super-power like chevaliers but he's a strong guy in personality-wise :ohpek, and I'm amazed he could move on after riku's tragedy (if I were him, I'd be so :crydepressed in my room to see my own brother raped, killed in front of me), he tried to help other people he cares and understand them eventhough they reject and tried to kill him but he also can realize he has his own flaws ... at first I saw him I didn't think he's hot, but as the progress of the story he's growing in me and since chp 33 he's able to accept riku's gone and so on I'm surprised myself "why he look suddenly hot?" :laugh ...

well I hope my answer not confused you

I like hagi and solomon too but Kai is my #1 fav guy in Blood+

[dattebayo NaruHina]

Can I please join?!! :amuse

[sori]

Welcome:amuse FullMetalAlchemist9 will add you when he gets a chance:amuse Feel free to post:amuse

[Levithian]

Can I please join?!! :amuse

Welcome, I will add you now....Who's your favorite Blood+ Character and Saya pairing?

[sori]

Yes, who?:amuse It must have slipped my mind to ask earlier:amuse

[dattebayo NaruHina]

Welcome, I will add you now....Who's your favorite Blood+ Character and Saya pairing?

Thank you! Thank you! Hmmm ... to name "a" farvorite, I don't know if I can because I like both Saya and Diva. They're both talented, strong and interesting in their own way so I love them both (even if Diva is a little loco). As for my fave pairing, I don't know how many people will agree with me but I love Saya and Haji together :nuts Thanks for asking though. I fell in love with Blood+ the first time I saw it on Adult Swim.

[Sapphire]

@dattebayo_naruhina
welcome!!!smile-big

you don't have to guess, it's obvious Hagi/Saya the most fav couple in Blood+ ... it's very easy to love Hagi/Saya, great together

[Levithian]

Thank you! Thank you! Hmmm ... to name "a" farvorite, I don't know if I can because I like both Saya and Diva. They're both talented, strong and interesting in their own way so I love them both (even if Diva is a little loco). As for my fave pairing, I don't know how many people will agree with me but I love Saya and Haji together :nuts Thanks for asking though. I fell in love with Blood+ the first time I saw it on Adult Swim.

Yeah, SayaXHaji is a favorite paring among fans...I watched it online with subs the first time then watched the dub when it came out, I thought, the dub voices were pretty good in this case...though overall I have seen every episode of the series enough times to memorize each one.

[TenshiNeko]

Polaris... I think you explained Kai's hotness very well in English. ...and I'm not bored with your Kai/Saya posts. I like Kai. I think he is the perfect one to raise Diva's kids..
I really can't see Haji doing thatthat fact actually raises Haji's hotness factor for me:wink

Jaded Heart....lol Queen of Nerds! that's cutesmile-big

FMA9....I could only find the two songs by Diva's seiyuu. The second one is nice. first one is just Shin chan.

I think Solomon could have learned to have regard for humans again. Maybe Diva's chevaliers had messed up thinking from having to be around Amshel all that time. Better to be alone like Haji than to have to be with Amshel!

[Sapphire]

:wtf
@TenshiNeko,
:hugawwwww thank you so much dear!!! :kloffyou're so lovely!!!

You're such great Hagi's fan!!!:wink

I think Hagi and Kai are "hot", it's just in different ways:)

[Levithian]

:wtf
@TenshiNeko,
:hugawwwww thank you so much dear!!! :kloffyou're so lovely!!!

You're such great Hagi's fan!!!:wink

I think Hagi and Kai are "hot", it's just in different ways:)

Everyone likes Haji, as do I, I'm just glad there is another Kai fan out there like me, that also appreciates Kai as well.

[TenshiNeko]

So what has everyone seen? Sub, dub, or both?.. I think both are good. To me, Kai's voice is actually better in the dub. What does everyone else think?

[Jaded Heart]

-I've seen it both ways. The Japanese version with dubs is good and I actually find I liked most of the Characters in the English version as well. I like Both ways but I think I got so used to watching the English version that it made more sense to just to keep watching it that way for the most part of the series.-

Also Question: I've already finished the series and just now in the bookstores thye are selling Blood + mangas. Either the books were just made or it took a while for them to finally get here. Anyone now about that?

:uwah

[Levithian]

So what has everyone seen? Sub, dub, or both?.. I think both are good. To me, Kai's voice is actually better in the dub. What does everyone else think?

I watched both, the sub and the dub, after watching the sub I found it interesting to listen to Saya talk in the dub...She is my favorite Blood+ Character Btw, my Fandom go's: Saya, then Diva then Kai, Riku, Haji, Solomon, Irene, Moses and finally Lulu, who deserves a honorable mention...basically in that order...I did not care for David or James, and disliked Amshel...there are other Characters I have mixed feelings about though...like Carl for example, I could never make up my mind about him...though he was interesting to be sure.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@polaris I like the way you put it. :amuse If my brother was raped and killed.. I would kill myslef. :cry

I know this may sound... kid-like or something like that.... But Miley Cyrus's song
"See you again" would make a hell of a good Blood+ music video. :nod Man, I sound like a kid. :twitch I would like to become a member of youtube but my dad says that he hates youtube. But I always look at that site. :hehee

[Sapphire]

@Hinata:hug
aawwww thank you very much you understand my post & my reason loving Kai :ohpek a grown-up man is HAWT!!!

about the dub & the original voice actors of Blood+, I like both versions:)

[Levithian]

I like the third Blood+ opening best, the music is great, as is the beautiful and symbolic visual imagery. The first opening was amusing and the second was pretty....I thought the fourth simply stylish.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@polaris (heres a funny thing I made up) Heres a Kai, Theres a Kai, And a other little Kai
Cute Kai, Hot Kai, Kai Kai, Riku.

[Sapphire]

@polaris (heres a funny thing I made up) Heres a Kai, Theres a Kai, And a other little Kai
Cute Kai, Hot Kai, Kai Kai, Riku.

:ruri :kloff


Everyone likes Haji, as do I, I'm just glad there is another Kai fan out there like me, that also appreciates Kai as well.

:hugyay!!! I'm not alone fan of Kai


I like the third Blood+ opening best, the music is great, as is the beautiful and symbolic visual imagery. The first opening was amusing and the second was pretty....I thought the fourth simply stylish.

you mean the opening from ep 30 until 38 ?
then I agree that opening is the best opening
it's indeed beautiful art and the symbolic is great to see

btw, I love the closing song alongside with the song of third opening
anyone please tell me the lyrics of those two songs in english translation

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EDIT:
I just watched eps 47, overall I love it
it seems this eps special made for Solomon ... I'm glad he's still alive in the beginning and middle of eps, but is he still alive at the end of eps? :(

eventhough I'm big fan of Kai/Saya (I'm happy again :wtfwith two little scenes of Kai/Saya in the kitchen & after james died ... also I love more here shown :<3how Kai is such a positive-thinking person)

but X3I like the way Solomon loves Saya too, romantic and touching (oh and I hope everyone not think I'm insane for saying this, I got drooling :fainton the scene solomon tied with chain and no buttons cover his sexy body lol)
it's :highvery cool view to see Solomon & Hagi alongside protecting Saya :nuts

[TenshiNeko]

@polaris (heres a funny thing I made up) Heres a Kai, Theres a Kai, And a other little Kai
Cute Kai, Hot Kai, Kai Kai, Riku.

Awww, that's cute. Sounds like it would be good for jump rope.smile-big

Your dad hates youtube??:huh Why? Well, I hate when they pull off good videos, but they usually show up again, anyway.


Polaris....Do the eps you're watching not sub the OP's or ED's?

Btw, I think David is ok. Never liked James at all. Absolutely HATE Amshel.:mad .....and the guy with the candies Van Argeno...he was annoying! ....And there is one scene where he leaves a candy sitting there on the table. They focus on it . I kept thinking it was gonna have a bomb in it, or a transmitter, or something....

[Sapphire]

@TenshiNeko,
the eps Blood+ I watch played on our television
I mean it's not the eps I download or upload from internet/website
thank goodness I have good listening of english without subs of Indonesian language (my mother tongue), but unfortunatedly the opening and the closing songs have no subs of english translation

well I guess I think I could read what the lyrics mean from youtube.com

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I just watched eps 48

it's scary, cool, and also sad eps :cry

I can feel hagi's conflict at heart in eps 46/47/48 ... he actually not want saya died but to him, what saya wishes the more important thing for him awwwwww

I like kai said he wants saya to smile again, I'd say "kai, she's already smiled on that one day (eps 45) with you, and it's more than enough" (for saya, I think) :P

:) it's such sweet & sad the scene saya catch kai's hand, they only could stare to each other and feels like unspoken words such as "thank you, Kai ... good bye!" :crycan't believe friendship of male/female can be this touching & sad

[Levithian]

@TenshiNeko,
the eps Blood+ I watch played on our television
I mean it's not the eps I download or upload from internet/website
thank goodness I have good listening of english without subs of Indonesian language (my mother tongue), but unfortunatedly the opening and the closing songs have no subs of english translation

well I guess I think I could read what the lyrics mean from youtube.com

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I just watched eps 48

it's scary, cool, and also sad eps :cry

I can feel hagi's conflict at heart in eps 46/47/48 ... he actually not want saya died but to him, what saya wishes the more important thing for him awwwwww

I like kai said he wants saya to smile again, I'd say "kai, she's already smiled on that one day (eps 45) with you, and it's more than enough" (for saya, I think) :P

:) it's such sweet & sad the scene saya catch kai's hand, they only could stare to each other and feels like unspoken words such as "thank you, Kai ... good bye!" :crycan't believe friendship of male/female can be this touching & sad

Yeah I thought that episode was incredibly sad, when I thought Haji was going to go through with it, I at first could not forgive him, but luckily there's a better ending.

[TenshiNeko]

Aww, I just knew Haji wouldn't actually go through with it....Then he would have to go on for all eternity without her:cry, since Diva was gone, and there was no blood to kill him with...and no way he could end his own life using Amshel's method for killing chevaliers.

Well, here are the lyrics from Color of the Heart. Best I could do. I copied them off the online streaming ep, and the letters were a bit hard to read. English translation not perfect. Was ShinSen subs, so blame them:amuse


Ano hi boku no kokoro wa .....That day my heart
Ato mo naku kuzuresatta .....Crumbled away in silence
Kawarete sakendemo ......Even I scream out
Keshisarenai kieku to .......The inerasable memories
Kuruyami ga hitomi no naka he to nagarekomu ...And darkness flow into my eyes
Mou iro sae mienai he to shizamu ....Soon I will sink into a tomorrow without even colors
Wakariaeru hi wo ....For the day of reconciliation
Tomedonaku sagashita ...I searched endlessly
Ushinau tame dake ni .... Just to lose it
Ima wo ikiteku ... I still continue to living on
neu* dame da to hitori kodoku wo daitemo .....Even I have to embrace hopeless solitude alone
They are coming tonight. They are coming tonight (sung in English)
Hikari he Iyashiteku .... I am healing. Towards the light
Negaitsuzukeru omoi ....That the continuing desire
Itsuka irozukuyo to ....Will someday put on colors
Omuite kureta kokoro ni ikitsuzukeru hito ....People living on with this in heart
Nani mo kamo hitsuzen no naka de umareru colors .....In just about every inevitability, Colors being born
Mou ichida kono te de asu wo egakeru kara .....As once more with this hand I can paint a tomorrow
Hikari no yubisaki de ....Using fingers of light



*....think this word not right. couldn't read letters well enough

[Levithian]

Aww, I just knew Haji wouldn't actually go through with it....Then he would have to go on for all eternity without her:cry, since Diva was gone, and there was no blood to kill him with...and no way he could end his own life using Amshel's method for killing chevaliers.

Well, here are the lyrics from Color of the Heart. Best I could do. I copied them off the online streaming ep, and the letters were a bit hard to read. English translation not perfect. Was ShinSen subs, so blame them:amuse


Ano hi boku no kokoro wa .....That day my heart
Ato mo naku kuzuresatta .....Crumbled away in silence
Kawarete sakendemo ......Even I scream out
Keshisarenai kieku to .......The inerasable memories
Kuruyami ga hitomi no naka he to nagarekomu ...And darkness flow into my eyes
Mou iro sae mienai he to shizamu ....Soon I will sink into a tomorrow without even colors
Wakariaeru hi wo ....For the day of reconciliation
Tomedonaku sagashita ...I searched endlessly
Ushinau tame dake ni .... Just to lose it
Ima wo ikiteku ... I still continue to living on
neu* dame da to hitori kodoku wo daitemo .....Even I have to embrace hopeless solitude alone
They are coming tonight. They are coming tonight (sung in English)
Hikari he Iyashiteku .... I am healing. Towards the light
Negaitsuzukeru omoi ....That the continuing desire
Itsuka irozukuyo to ....Will someday put on colors
Omuite kureta kokoro ni ikitsuzukeru hito ....People living on with this in heart
Nani mo kamo hitsuzen no naka de umareru colors .....In just about every inevitability, Colors being born
Mou ichida kono te de asu wo egakeru kara .....As once more with this hand I can paint a tomorrow
Hikari no yubisaki de ....Using fingers of light



*....think this word not right. couldn't read letters well enough






Yes, thats truly beautiful is it not?

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Aww, I just knew Haji wouldn't actually go through with it....Then he would have to go on for all eternity without her:cry, since Diva was gone, and there was no blood to kill him with...and no way he could end his own life using Amshel's method for killing chevaliers.

Well, here are the lyrics from Color of the Heart. Best I could do. I copied them off the online streaming ep, and the letters were a bit hard to read. English translation not perfect. Was ShinSen subs, so blame them:amuse


Ano hi boku no kokoro wa .....That day my heart
Ato mo naku kuzuresatta .....Crumbled away in silence
Kawarete sakendemo ......Even I scream out
Keshisarenai kieku to .......The inerasable memories
Kuruyami ga hitomi no naka he to nagarekomu ...And darkness flow into my eyes
Mou iro sae mienai he to shizamu ....Soon I will sink into a tomorrow without even colors
Wakariaeru hi wo ....For the day of reconciliation
Tomedonaku sagashita ...I searched endlessly
Ushinau tame dake ni .... Just to lose it
Ima wo ikiteku ... I still continue to living on
neu* dame da to hitori kodoku wo daitemo .....Even I have to embrace hopeless solitude alone
They are coming tonight. They are coming tonight (sung in English)
Hikari he Iyashiteku .... I am healing. Towards the light
Negaitsuzukeru omoi ....That the continuing desire
Itsuka irozukuyo to ....Will someday put on colors
Omuite kureta kokoro ni ikitsuzukeru hito ....People living on with this in heart
Nani mo kamo hitsuzen no naka de umareru colors .....In just about every inevitability, Colors being born
Mou ichida kono te de asu wo egakeru kara .....As once more with this hand I can paint a tomorrow
Hikari no yubisaki de ....Using fingers of light



*....think this word not right. couldn't read letters well enough








Nice work! I couldn't even remember that song. :)

[Levithian]

Fanart:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/B4.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/B3.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/B2.png
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/B1.jpg

[sori]

Those are good:amuse I especially like the third one:amuse

[~ Son of SPARDA ~]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/B2.png

I think I fell in love all over again... :love

[Serp]

Hallo guys :zaru I think you too my last post too seriously about Haji I was just fucking around.

And FMA9 all those pics apart from the last one aren't fanart they are editted screenshots :P

[Levithian]

Hallo guys :zaru I think you too my last post too seriously about Haji I was just fucking around.

And FMA9 all those pics apart from the last one aren't fanart they are editted screenshots :P

I know I just said, fanart because its simple.

[Sapphire]

this is the last review from me about Blood+
eps 49 & 50
goossshhh I don't know from where to start
there's so much I want to say, but I think I'm gonna limit it bcoz english not my mother tongue

Hagi soooo cool beating that jerk Amshel
woo-hoo! way to go, Hagi!!! :whoo

the battle Saya vs Diva sooo EPIC with heartbreaking result
I must say my heart become softened to Diva
I can't believe for saying this: I like Diva now
and I love Saya and Diva interaction for the last time
"diva, I'll help you" , "big sister!!!"
Diva reaching her babies :cry

I love Kai's efforts to stop Saya from killing the babies
and :hohohappy Kai's punch to Hagi (don't get me wrong! I like Hagi's silent attitude to follow saya's wishes but sometimes he really has to speak his mind for saya's happiness as well) succeed making Hagi to confess and convince Saya to live on ... I also like Hagi/Saya scenes here romantic & touching!!!

Kai & Saya scenes in eps 50 :kloff really really sweet especially when kai cutting saya's hair also messing her hair :laugh
my eyes started getting wet to see them riding together at night for the last time :cry kai giving saya piggy-ride-back walking up through stairs "thank you, kai" & her hand falling kai surprised but keep going with tears on his cheeks :cry and saya smiling on his shoulder ... my heart really hurts but gotta say one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen:cry

diva's children sooo cute ... their scene with kai sooo adorable:ruri
kyaaaa kai is the perfect father

Blood+ is truly one of the best anime ever!!!
the ending also really one of the best end too!!! BITTERSWEET!!!:kthumb

[Levithian]

this is the last review from me about Blood+
eps 49 & 50
goossshhh I don't know from where to start
there's so much I want to say, but I think I'm gonna limit it bcoz english not my mother tongue

Hagi soooo cool beating that jerk Amshel
woo-hoo! way to go, Hagi!!! :whoo

the battle Saya vs Diva sooo EPIC with heartbreaking result
I must say my heart become softened to Diva
I can't believe for saying this: I like Diva now
and I love Saya and Diva interaction for the last time
"diva, I'll help you" , "big sister!!!"
Diva reaching her babies :cry

I love Kai's efforts to stop Saya from killing the babies
and :hohohappy Kai's punch to Hagi (don't get me wrong! I like Hagi's silent attitude to follow saya's wishes but sometimes he really has to speak his mind for saya's happiness as well) succeed making Hagi to confess and convince Saya to live on ... I also like Hagi/Saya scenes here romantic & touching!!!

Kai & Saya scenes in eps 50 :kloff really really sweet especially when kai cutting saya's hair also messing her hair :laugh
my eyes started getting wet to see them riding together at night for the last time :cry kai giving saya piggy-ride-back walking up through stairs "thank you, kai" & her hand falling kai surprised but keep going with tears on his cheeks :cry and saya smiling on his shoulder ... my heart really hurts but gotta say one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen:cry

diva's children sooo cute ... their scene with kai sooo adorable:ruri
kyaaaa kai is the perfect father

Blood+ is truly one of the best anime ever!!!
the ending also really one of the best end too!!! BITTERSWEET!!!:kthumb


Your last review but I hope you will stick around the FC...yes it was sad at the end, maybe now you can see why the Saya/Diva thing was so tragic and appreciate the other side of Diva...I just wish Kai would have had more time with Saya at the end.

[~ Son of SPARDA ~]

yes it was sad at the end, maybe now you can see why the Saya/Diva thing was so tragic and appreciate the other side of Diva...I just wish Kai would have had more time with Saya at the end.

My sentiments exactly, and I wish Kai not only had more time with Saya at the end but ended up becoming romantically involved with her as well... I've always relished the idea of a Kai and Saya pairing but am completely put off by the thought of one in Saya and Haji's favor.

Oh, and FMA9, where did you find that fan art of Diva in post #1069?

[Levithian]

My sentiments exactly, and I wish Kai not only had more time with Saya at the end but ended up becoming romantically involved with her as well... I've always relished the idea of a Kai and Saya pairing but am completely put off by the thought of one in Saya and Haji's favor.


Of course thats what I really would have wanted, it to be taken to the level of romance with them, you think like me in that regard...when I first watched the series I was thinking not only should Kai be with her but he deserved to be with her...a romance between them especially if it started earlier on, near the end of part one would have been incredibly cool...it just appeals in a wining sort of way dose it not? I like other Saya pairings a little, but KaiXSaya is my pairing of choice.


Oh, and FMA9, where did you find that fan art of Diva in post #1069?

From a picture search.

[Cooli]

Diva was awesome :gar

Oh and joinage please :)

[Levithian]

Diva was awesome :gar

Oh and joinage please :)

Welcome will add you now... favorite Character is Diva I take it? Favorite paring?*If any*

[Cooli]

Saya and Kai :zaru

And thanks

[Serp]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x187/Silver_Serper/Blood%20Plus/blood3.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x187/Silver_Serper/Blood%20Plus/diva001.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x187/Silver_Serper/Blood%20Plus/love.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x187/Silver_Serper/Blood%20Plus/l_016c4a0f0079aa4d45af9b0a577e8edd.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x187/Silver_Serper/Sets/divanew.png
Some of my Diva pics from my photobucket.

[Cooli]

Awesome :omg

[Sapphire]

great arts of diva, Serp
to be truth, blue is my fav colour:P


Your last review but I hope you will stick around the FC...yes it was sad at the end, maybe now you can see why the Saya/Diva thing was so tragic and appreciate the other side of Diva...I just wish Kai would have had more time with Saya at the end.
you want me to stick around this Fc ? :nuts

oh of course I appreciate the different side of diva, I have heart & open-minded :P
I still dislike what she did to riku, but Diva become my fav females too in Blood+ alongside with Saya, Diva's truly one of a few villains which I care about, I love "grey" female characters, her scene as mother with her babies sooo BEAUTIFUL!!! well I guess she could be a good mother, poor her not have time to see her babies smiling to her :cry I mean it's just a few seconds after she died then the babies come out :cry so tragic!!!

yes, kai should have more time with saya
but eventhough only few moments, kai and saya moments in eps 50 truly sweet & awesome :cry

My sentiments exactly, and I wish Kai not only had more time with Saya at the end but ended up becoming romantically involved with her as well... I've always relished the idea of a Kai and Saya pairing but am completely put off by the thought of one in Saya and Haji's favor.


OMG!!! you also like Kai/Saya :wtf

Saya and Kai :zaru

:wtf your fav pairing Kai/Saya too
yay!!! smile-big

[COLOR="Black"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Of course thats what I really would have wanted, it to be taken to the level of romance with them, you think like me in that regard...when I first watched the series I was thinking not only should Kai be with her but he deserved to be with her...a romance between them especially if it started earlier on, near the end of part one would have been incredibly cool...it just appeals in a wining sort of way dose it not? I like other Saya pairings a little, but KaiXSaya is my pairing of choice.


you like Kai/Saya too ^_^
kyaaa so happy

[Cooli]

Yes i do :)



Solomon and Saya is my second

[Sapphire]

@Kenshin_Himura
May I know why you like Kai/Saya pairing?
I'm so happy I'm not alone here favoring KaiYa :nuts

btw, if you like reading fanfics, here I found KaiYa fics collection::amuse
NANKURUNAISA: KAI & SAYA FANFICS COLLECTION (http://www.fanfiction.net/community/nankurunaisa_[_Saya_&_Kai_]/46781/)



oh I actually torn choosing between SoYa & HaYa in second place fav pairings lol

[Levithian]

@Serp, shes really stunning in those pics...keep them coming.

great arts of diva, Serp
to be truth, blue is my fav colour:P



you want me to stick around this Fc ? :nuts

Of course, good to have you.

oh of course I appreciate the different side of diva, I have heart & open-minded :P
I still dislike what she did to riku, but Diva become my fav females too in Blood+ alongside with Saya, Diva's truly one of a few villains which I care about, I love "grey" female characters, her scene as mother with her babies sooo BEAUTIFUL!!! well I guess she could be a good mother, poor her not have time to see her babies smiling to her :cry I mean it's just a few seconds after she died then the babies come out :cry so tragic!!!

I could not agree more.

yes, kai should have more time with saya
but eventhough only few moments, kai and saya moments in eps 50 truly sweet & awesome :cry



OMG!!! you also like Kai/Saya :wtf


:wtf your fav pairing Kai/Saya too
yay!!! smile-big



you like Kai/Saya too ^_^
kyaaa so happy

Yeah its a great paring.


@Kenshin_Himura
May I know why you like Kai/Saya pairing?
I'm so happy I'm not alone here favoring KaiYa :nuts

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oh I actually torn choosing between SoYa & HaYa in second place fav pairings lol

Me too...and I will check out the fanfics.

[Sapphire]

where I could find Saya/Diva pics together or arts of them being together as siblings or side by side? they become my fav twin alongside with my fav twin in vampire knight manga, bcoz both of twins end up beautifully tragic :cry



Yeah its a great paring.

Me too...and I will check out the fanfics.

so we have same taste, I'm glad:)

btw, what makes you think KaiYa a great pairing? bcoz of their friendship or their personalities compatibility?

KaiYa fics very rare can be found, so maybe that's why once I found the collection I'm happy

[Levithian]

where I could find Saya/Diva pics together or arts of them being together as siblings or side by side? they become my fav twin alongside with my fav twin in vampire knight manga, bcoz both of twins end up beautifully tragic :cry



so we have same taste, I'm glad:)

btw, what makes you think KaiYa a great pairing? bcoz of their friendship or their personalities compatibility?

KaiYa fics very rare can be found, so maybe that's why once I found the collection I'm happy

Well some of the things Kai said to saya were among the most romantic things said in Blood+, he understood her pain, and pursued her, obviously caring about her romantically, and he loved her purely and unselfishly, romantically and as a part of his family, metaphorically speaking early on. He appeals to the side of her that wants to be human, and he treated her like a normal girl, and excepted her for who and what she is, even though he was not even of her species.

I don't want to scare of HajiXSaya fans BTW its my second favorite pairing for different reasons...But KaiXSaya is still number one for me.

[Cooli]

@Kenshin_Himura
May I know why you like Kai/Saya pairing?
I'm so happy I'm not alone here favoring KaiYa :nuts

btw, if you like reading fanfics, here I found KaiYa fics collection::amuse
NANKURUNAISA: KAI & SAYA FANFICS COLLECTION (http://www.fanfiction.net/community/nankurunaisa_[_Saya_&_Kai_]/46781/)


irdk they never really seemed like brother and sister to me and they just look good together :P

[Sapphire]

Well some of the things Kai said to saya were among the most romantic things said in Blood+, he understood her pain, and pursued her, obviously caring about her romantically, and he loved her purely and unselfishly, romantically and as a part of his family, metaphorically speaking early on. He appeals to the side of her that wants to be human, and he treated her like a normal girl, and excepted her for who and what she is, even though he was not even of her species.

I don't want to scare of HajiXSaya fans BTW its my second favorite pairing for different reasons...But KaiXSaya is still number one for me.

I love reading your reasons :nuts

:)I really like it's Kai who can make her smiling and motivate her to be optimistic about the future, usually I see many love stories of the girl who's cheerful trying to make the emo boy become happy but Kai/Saya is the pairing which exchange the positions ... I've ever wished Saya should turn Kai become her chevalier, but in the end I'm glad she didn't make him as chevalier, bcoz their different species make Kai/Saya pairing stands out ... :laughalso I kinda like the female who protects the male physically this time, so this pairing again break the cliche

oh I like Hagi/Saya:wink ... there's no way I could hate hagi/saya ... their bond also good ... it's just kai/saya #1 for me


irdk they never really seemed like brother and sister to me and they just look good together :P

:nuts same with me ... most of their scenes not like siblings, some like best friends but some other scenes of them together also "romantic" for example: when saya said "summer scent" to kai's smell :laugh so cute in eps 39

[sori]

When you think about it, Diva does have her reasons for what she does. I believe this was discussed previously, but I wish to divulge. It's all in how she was treated growing up. While Saya was treated much like a princess, Diva was treated as little more than a science experiment. She had almost completely no connection with the world outside the tower she was kept in.

When you're treated so lowly, there is no way you would come away from it without resenting the world that put you into the situation.

[Levithian]

When you think about it, Diva does have her reasons for what she does. I believe this was discussed previously, but I wish to divulge. It's all in how she was treated growing up. While Saya was treated much like a princess, Diva was treated as little more than a science experiment. She had almost completely no connection with the world outside the tower she was kept in.

When you're treated so lowly, there is no way you would come away from it without resenting the world that put you into the situation.

Thats what I have been saying all along.

[Sapphire]

I won't say Diva has reasons, but I'd say Diva has cruel & sad background which turns her like that which makes her bad attitude become make sense and understandable, though her heartbreaking end & the way she cares about her babies are her qualities makes me like Diva ... she is such a lovely tragic villain which irresistible to sympathize

[Levithian]

I won't say Diva has reasons, but I'd say Diva has cruel & sad background which turns her like that which makes her bad attitude become make sense and understandable, though her heartbreaking end & the way she cares about her babies are her qualities makes me like Diva ... she is such a lovely tragic villain which irresistible to sympathize

You know what would make a good fanfic? If Kai had took Diva up on her offer and let her change him he might have been able to stop what happened, that would be all the more interesting if KaiXSaya happened then like Diva said, Kai could give Saya babies...if that happened and Julia found away to stop Saya from hibernating we would have had the ultimate happy ending....

[Sapphire]

You know what would make a good fanfic? If Kai had took Diva up on her offer and let her change him he might have been able to stop what happened, that would be all the more interesting if KaiXSaya happened then like Diva said, Kai could give Saya babies...if that happened and Julia found away to stop Saya from hibernating we would have had the ultimate happy ending....

wow!!! I love that to happen!!!:wtf

and this is another reason I like about :<3Diva, from her line in eps 41 she looks like could see the potential in Kai/Saya as romantic pairing :hoho

[Levithian]

wow!!! I love that to happen!!!:wtf

and this is another reason I like about :<3Diva, from her line in eps 41 she looks like could see the potential in Kai/Saya as romantic pairing :hoho

Lol, she was attempting to tempt Kai, with the notion he could give Saya babies.

[Cooli]

Hello People :amuse

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Fanart:
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I liked number 1, 2, and 3. :tem I'm useing one as my avatar. A Fc is just not a Fc without fanart.

[Cooli]

The 2nd and 3rd :wtf

[Levithian]

I liked number 1, 2, and 3. :tem I'm useing one as my avatar. A Fc is just not a Fc without fanart.

The 2nd and 3rd :wtf

Glad you liked them will post more later on.

Blood+ is to me what TTGL is to others.

[Cooli]

I feel like rewatching it now X3

[Levithian]

I feel like rewatching it now X3

Unless you have seen both the sub and the dub, watch the one you haven't seen, I have seen both more than once...As well as the movie, Blood:The last Vampire, but it's not the same as the series...Blood+ is a really underrated anime you know.

[Cooli]

Havent seen the movie


Whats the difference between the sub and dub?

[Levithian]

Havent seen the movie


Whats the difference between the sub and dub?

There both good in there way, the difference is in the Voice talent, and there are a few lines that have slight discrepancies on the sub than the dub.... Diva has a great dub voice though...both are good choice's, just depends whether you like sub's or English dub anime. I like to watch both mainly for the voice talent. The subs are better in this case IMO, but the dub has its advantages.

[Cooli]

I like dub better because im somewhat lazy :sweat

there are only a few anime that i watch the sub version

[Levithian]

I like dub better because im somewhat lazy :sweat

there are only a few anime that i watch the sub version

Well the Blood+ Dub voices are pleasant enough for the most part, your just lucky this is not one of those with a horrible Dub. Its actually rather good...though I like the sub, this is one of the few anime where I have also watched and enjoyed the dub.

[Cooli]

Yeah i stopped liking OP because the changed the voices :sag




I somewhat wonder how the series would have went if Diva and Saya were treted the same

[Levithian]

Yeah i stopped liking OP because the changed the voices :sag




I somewhat wonder how the series would have went if Diva and Saya were treted the same

If they were to have been left alone and that were the case Diva would not have been a Villain at all, and I guess Diva and Saya would have really loved each other as sisters. Saya may not have come to the conclusion that her kind where bad, and would not have experienced that self loathing. There would be no need for red shield and it would just be about Diva and Saya's happy life.

[Cooli]

Unless there was a third of their kind

[Levithian]

Unless there was a third of their kind

Oh if that were the case it would be smiler to how it is now only they would work together to hunt the thrid.

[Cooli]

I guess but i have a feeling one of them would die

[TenshiNeko]

Kinda makes you wonder what happened to their mother's sister. She must've had one, right? If they're always born in sets of 2.

[Cooli]

Thats a very good point :oh

[Levithian]

Kinda makes you wonder what happened to their mother's sister. She must've had one, right? If they're always born in sets of 2.

Yes, and she could have had kids, and her kids could have had kids, you know there could be many of them out there...Lol

Really I wonder how Haji would have reacted if Saya had picked Kai?

[TenshiNeko]

Yes, and she could have had kids, and her kids could have had kids, you know there could be many of them out there...Lol

Could be. You know those kids who all turned into chiropterans and attacked them?...Didn't they look like chupacabras?...hmmm, that would explain some stuff!:laugh

Really I wonder how Haji would have reacted if Saya had picked Kai?

Haji would always obey Saya's orders, so he would have accepted it if she chose Kai. He would still always stay by her as her faithful manservant. Kai couldn't possibly be so cruel as to insist Saya send Haji away! It would be too sad.:cry Saya is all he has.:cry

Kai has so many people to be around with, but Haji is all alone. Riku sort of became like a little brother to him, with Haji advising him on the changes that happen when you become a chevalier. Haji never even had that. He had to deal with it all on his own.

I don't think it would have suited Kai to be a chevalier. He would've liked to always be with Saya, but his personality.....Haji seemed the loner type from when he was a boy. Kai is just the opposite. More outgoing, with lots of friends to hang out with. If he became a chevalier he would then be different from them. Not sure he would do well if he had to keep so much to himself.

Think of it. He wouldn't eat, so wouldn't have barbeque with friends. He couldn't even hang aroung with the same friends too long. They'd want to know why he didn't get any older. He wouldn't be the same. Kai needed to stay the way he was. I don't think he would've made a good father for Diva's babies if he was trying to cope with his own changes at the same time.

[Jaded Heart]

Haji would always obey Saya's orders, so he would have accepted it if she chose Kai. He would still always stay by her as her faithful manservant. Kai couldn't possibly be so cruel as to insist Saya send Haji away! It would be too sad.:cry Saya is all he has.:cry

Kai has so many people to be around with, but Haji is all alone. Riku sort of became like a little brother to him, with Haji advising him on the changes that happen when you become a chevalier. Haji never even had that. He had to deal with it all on his own.

I don't think it would have suited Kai to be a chevalier. He would've liked to always be with Saya, but his personality.....Haji seemed the loner type from when he was a boy. Kai is just the opposite. More outgoing, with lots of friends to hang out with. If he became a chevalier he would then be different from them. Not sure he would do well if he had to keep so much to himself.

Think of it. He wouldn't eat, so wouldn't have barbeque with friends. He couldn't even hang aroung with the same friends too long. They'd want to know why he didn't get any older. He wouldn't be the same. Kai needed to stay the way he was. I don't think he would've made a good father for Diva's babies if he was trying to cope with his own changes at the same time.

I definitely agree with your thoughts about Kai not being suited to be a chevalier. His personality and characteristics don't quite fit that of a chevalier's. Kai would probably have a hard time getting use to such a different change in lifestyle. His vivacious, outgoing and sociable personality would porobably change as well. And then Kai just wouldn't be Kai.

In the end I'm not sure who Kai should have ended up with either. If Diva was his wife he'd have to give up alot of stuff and sacrifice things to be with her. But then who else could you see him with? Even today I still wonder and think about who he should have ended up with...



Solomon and Saya is my second

For Reals? :wtf

:love

[Levithian]

If Kai really did get Saya and became a chevalier, personalty wise he would still be Kai, yet he could have backed up his desire to protect Saya and at least have been in the game. He would have felt less like a outsider as well. Not that he was not helpful in his own way..yet at times I felt sad for him.

[sori]

Yes, it would have given him more opportunities to protect her as he wanted to. But it would also put him in a postition to where it would not only be his wish to protect her, but it would be his duty to protect her.

[Serp]

Essay on Diva, the rest can be gotten from me at a later date.

Blah blah blah, Mental age handicap, blah blah blah approx 12-20 years socail development, blah blah blah, sociopath, blah blah blah :zaru

[Levithian]

Essay on Diva, the rest can be gotten from me at a later date.

Blah blah blah, Mental age handicap, blah blah blah approx 12-20 years socail development, blah blah blah, sociopath, blah blah blah :zaru

You can do better than that serp...Lol.

[sori]

I agree. Mind going into more detail, Serp?:amuse

[TenshiNeko]

This has nothing to do with Diva....Why do you think they felt the need to give Lewis a fake-Jamaican accent in the dub? He's supposed to be an Okinawa native. Cuz Jamaica and Okinawa are both Islands?...and one island is as good as the next, they supposed? It doesn't really bother me, but when he talks it makes me think of Hermes Conrad.:laugh

[Levithian]

This has nothing to do with Diva....Why do you think they felt the need to give Lewis a fake-Jamaican accent in the dub? He's supposed to be an Okinawa native. Cuz Jamaica and Okinawa are both Islands?...and one island is as good as the next, they supposed? It doesn't really bother me, but when he talks it makes me think of Hermes Conrad.:laugh

You know, I don't know why they did that...it was a little amusing, but I was never into Lewis too much. He had his moments though I guess. Yet Diva said he did not look tasty at all...Lol


You know about Diva I would find it interesting to see how she would have turned out if she were sheltered, loved and cared for, as well as instructed growing up. I do doubt very much she would have become a villain...if and only if she still chose to become a villain despite this...then she would be a true villain.

[TenshiNeko]

You know, I don't know why they did that...it was a little amusing, but I was never into Lewis too much. He had his moments though I guess. Yet Diva said he did not look tasty at all...Lol
.

And way too fatty, too. His blood would probably give her high cholesterol.:amuse


You know about Diva I would find it interesting to see how she would have turned out if she were sheltered, loved and cared for, as well as instructed growing up. I do doubt very much she would have become a villain...if and only if she still chose to become a villain despite this...then she would be a true villain.



Actually, I think Diva growing up must've had more attention than they say. Not loved and nurtured, true. They must've taught her to speak/use language. She didn't know what "name" meant when Saya asked, but she did speak. Language isn't automatic. It has to be taught. When they find feral children the kids make noises, but they don't talk.

And how did Diva know that giving Amshel her blood would turn him into a chevalier? She killed everyone else at the zoo, but gave Amshel her blood? No way she'd know to do that. What was Amshel teaching her? ...and what sort of experiments was he doing even back then?
If I had been Diva I'd more hate Amshel for keeping me in the tower. Not Joel. She never saw him. She saw Amshel. He could go to the tower and into her room/cell....but he wouldn't let her out.

[Levithian]

And way too fatty, too. His blood would probably give her high cholesterol.:amuse





Actually, I think Diva growing up must've had more attention than they say. Not loved and nurtured, true. They must've taught her to speak/use language. She didn't know what "name" meant when Saya asked, but she did speak. Language isn't automatic. It has to be taught. When they find feral children the kids make noises, but they don't talk.

And how did Diva know that giving Amshel her blood would turn him into a chevalier? She killed everyone else at the zoo, but gave Amshel her blood? No way she'd know to do that. What was Amshel teaching her? ...and what sort of experiments was he doing even back then?
If I had been Diva I'd more hate Amshel for keeping me in the tower. Not Joel. She never saw him. She saw Amshel. He could go to the tower and into her room/cell....but he wouldn't let her out.

You know I have often had the theory that Amshel probably took her blood as a experiment rather than her giving it to him. You know whats more sick? Amshel no doubt conducted mating experiments with Diva because he told Julia he got her to mate with verious humans and later those she gave blood to. It would not surprise me if he also did sick things like cutting her to see how she heals and all kinds of twisted things.

Also if you pay attention to the flashbacks its Amshel approving those for Diva to giver blood to. Then controlling them himself. He even wanted to take her children and be done with her latter to warp them as well.

Amshel was the true villain of blood+ and the mastermind behind the operation, and the military contracts. Diva was almost just a figurehead. Yes she should have hated Amshel, how she did react makes me kind of ill.

[TenshiNeko]

Amsel must've had her convinced that he was really helping her. The one she could trust. And poor Diva didn't know any better. Amshel was the one who'd been there since she was a baby. That was the only kind of life she knew.

Wouldn't surprise me if Amshel tried mating with her himself!:angry

[Levithian]

Amsel must've had her convinced that he was really helping her. The one she could trust. And poor Diva didn't know any better. Amshel was the one who'd been there since she was a baby. That was the only kind of life she knew.

Wouldn't surprise me if Amshel tried mating with her himself!:angry

Kind of like Stockholm syndrome if you ask me.

[Sapphire]

so still about diva?

wow! diva looks like most fav character in blood+ :)

[Levithian]

so still about diva?

wow! diva looks like most fav character in blood+ :)

Saya is probably the favorite...but Diva is controversial...though she is one of my favorites.

[TenshiNeko]

so still about diva?

wow! diva looks like most fav character in blood+ :)

No no, Hagi is my favorite!!:<3:<3:ohpek .....and if you haven't watched the sub version.....well, Crispin Freeman does a good job in the dub, but Katsuyuki Konishi makes Haji sound soooo hothothothot!!..:drool..:faint

[Levithian]

You know Saya's memory loss at the start of every awaking benefits her in a way. Thats how she was probably able to adapt to the world changing so much and awaking every time to a new generation. As well as how she adapted to becoming a 16 year old school girl when she was over 100. In each incarnation she loses her memory briefly and assimilates into the age, integrating it with the new memories she recovers so there is no future shock.

[nejii]

hey everyone

[Serp]

Im bored so Ill give one of my patented Diva essays, just tell me the subject and Ill write it :D

[Levithian]

Im bored so Ill give one of my patented Diva essays, just tell me the subject and Ill write it :D

I would welcome a good essay on the life of Diva, how about behavioral / environmental, or perhaps something concerning her relationships and development...or maybe Saya/Diva?

[Serp]

An Essay by Lord Serpentious Orochi Argentum Delarbok VIII :quite
Diva Goldsmith
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Diva and Saya: Nurture vs Nurture
At first glance the differences of Saya and Diva could be seen as Nature vs Nurture, but this infact is incorrect. The differences between Diva and Saya are purely socially built, while Saya enjoyed a princess life, Diva barely lived that of a test subject. Saya was raised around humans and as a human, and thus sees herself primarily as a human. Diva was raised knowing she was not human, basic human rights void from her life and therefore sees herself as different to the humans. Both sisters share the same DNA being Di zygotic twins, to the extent of our knowledge, the subtle differences such as the different eye colour and the whole blood thing, if considered does lead us to believe them to be Di zygotic twins like other mammals such as cats etc etc. Being of the same species and having approx 90%+ of the same genes shows that there is a very little chance that Divas genetics pre-ordained her to be evil just as much as Sayas her good. Now both sisters are 174 at the end of the series, spending approx 50 years awake the first time and then 3 years every 30 years, so that would mean that the girls mental age would be that of approx 62 years. While Sayas development age is equal to her mental age, Diva who was socially void for the first 50 years of her life, only has spent the last 12 years of her life, gaining social skills and adapting to life. Diva is in all essence a 12 year old child, with great power and not a restricting hand to stop her. While Saya being 50 years her senior, is more mature and has due to upbringing has a stern sense of right and wrong, while Diva has none but rather a sense of knowing she gets what she wants.

Diva: Envy
All throughout their life, Saya has always had at least companion, while for the first 50 or so years Diva had only a cell and brief talks to Amshel. Diva now coming into her power, being manipulated by Amshel regardless, whats to build a family. She would happily accept Saya into her family as she still views Saya as her sister. Diva wants what Saya has, and if not take it from Saya to allow her to feel Divas pain. Diva has taken, Joel, Riku and tried to turn Kai over to her side. Saya is shown as the person who is willing to break down all the ties Diva has set up. Seeing Saya happy while simultaneously trying to destroy Divas is a large driving force for some of Divas more outrageous behavior.

The Schiff/Karl

In essence they share the same experiences as Diva, The Schiff were test subjects for Amshel, but the fact that they had each other and their life in captivity was not as long as Divas lead to them not being as mentally stunted. Karl was also a test subject, but unlike Divas 50 years in captivity he was never in direct captivity and he still turned out crazy.

Diva: Murderous Monster
Many people see Diva as a murderous monster, but actually this is a gross stereotyping of the antagonist. Diva killed Joel who was indeed a sick bastard so IMO that death was justified. Yes she killed those who were at the party, maybe it was a malicious act or maybe a natural act, part of the food chain as she was seen drinking from them. 50 years in captivity might make you hungry. Riku's "1st" death was not justified, firstly she had no idea who he was just that he looked tasty, fair enough was she hungry or was she being sadistic. Riku's "2" death was fair less justified, was it intentional probably so, but the intention of the encounter was not to kill him, possibly the killing was Diva learned method of solving problems. The guards that attacked Diva on the ship opened fire first :pek.

Manipulation
Amshel the true mind behind the evil picture you have built up around Diva, image diva as the power source but amshel as the tool that redirects the energy for controversial purposes. Diva was raised by Amshel, she loved him as any daughter would love their father, he gave her what ever she wanted and in return he took her blood and with promises of family and a new world, allowed her to fall into his plan. He found her cocoon, his blood gave birth to her, and her blood granted him his chevalier abilities. For 50 years he was the only person to treat her like a person, and for the next 124 years treat her like a princess. I have no doubt that Amshel loved Diva, but his love for power out weighed the love of his daughter (lol jew).
But Saya being manipulated by first herself, and then red shield. Not everything was black and white. The fight against Diva, was more one sided than anything, Saya mercilessly hunting her down.

Love
Saya surrounded by love from the get-go, Diva getting paternal love at times but no mutual love. Saya had friends her own age and people who saw he not as a daughter or a mother but rather a friend, Diva lacked this another part of her mental psyche under developed. Regardless, she was still able to show love for her children, but due to the way she was raised she was unable to know how to direct her love correctly. Amshel loved her as a daughter, James a mother, Solomon more of a lover and Karl... well Karls a psycho stalker.

Destiny
Destiny and fate, show their ugly faces. Diva was aware that purely by random she was chosen to be the captive one and that she could just of easily been the happy one, knowing something like that could either heal or hurt. By being Chiropteran Diva accepted what she was and decided fuck it, if the humans don't want me I don't want them. Still 174 years after their birth the humans view her as a monster and most of them view her sister as a hero, and she knows their roles could have easily been reversed.
Saya had already lived her life 50 years of it, while Diva lived those same 50 years not living. Now Divas psyche 12 years developed, trust into a world where she knows very little and what she does is confusing. She is trying to live her life, without Amshel directing her she would be a very nice girl. As in overall personality, Diva is calmer and less likely to get angry. It is in a way that Saya is the evil twin doing good, and Diva is the good twin lead down the wrong road. One point for this is, Diva resents Saya for her happy life, but doesn't hate her or even resent her to an extreme, while Saya has been shown to show feelings bordering on hate for Diva (regardless of the Riku incident)

Acceptance
Accepting the fact they were chiropteran, for Saya brought her whole life crashing down. But for Diva a child with nothing, it gave her life meaning and she grasped it as much as she could, no longer powerless. Being the Queen of an extremely powerful race has its perks. Saya ashamed of what "Diva" had done in the name of their species decided to devote her life to stopping them and then herself, which in a way was racist :awesome by the actions of a few of her race, she assumed them all to be evil. Once again Saya is shown to put her happiness before Divas, to be honest "Divas plan" was not the best, it was quite fucked up. But Diva free and alive, her newly found freedom and life at constant risk from her sister who had already lived her life, seems unfair for Saya. By the same reasoning when Saya went crazy in Vietnam and raised a kill count IMO equal to or higher than to Divas, shouldn't she kill herself then and there, but no she lives until her purpose is fufilled, she pushes aside her morals and views simply to allow herself to slaughter those who have done the same has her.

In conclusion, the humans who meddled with the girls, are the villains of the series, each building their weapons with words, threats of the other side and a promise of a better future. The girls are the outcome of their surroundings, a different time, a different place, different people and their life would be so much better. As shown by Divas children. Maybe if Saya could push past the red shield and Diva ignored Amshel they could sort things out and be sisters again, although Diva resents Saya and Saya really apart from Riku should have nothing against Diva, come on Joel was a Crazy old man. :zaru I would write more but I'm tired.

[Serp]

Yes I did more research and found out that, Divas mental age would be 15 at most. They are twins, but like a cats litter they can have different traits such as eye colour etc etc.
Joel and Amshel were approx the same age, around 70 during Divas release yet amshel was still young so he must have become a chevalier approx 20 years prior, which would refute Hagis claim of how he loved the man Amshel used to be as Amshel was already evil and a chevalier when he bought Hagi. :awesome

All I have written are derived from factual evidences :awesome

[Levithian]

+Rep Serp, that was most excellent.

[Serp]

Was it? I have no idea really it was about 5am and I was tired, but I wanted to write it. But me studying anthropology and psychology, its good for me to be able to build profiles, I might write another better one later as I think the set up and points of this on are quite meh.

[Levithian]

Was it? I have no idea really it was about 5am and I was tired, but I wanted to write it. But me studying anthropology and psychology, its good for me to be able to build profiles, I might write another better one later as I think the set up and points of this on are quite meh.

Well, as far as these things go, it was pretty good.



I wonder how Kai would have got along with Diva if he had let her change him, I bet there relationship would have been awkward and full of resentment on Kai's part.

[sori]

I wonder how Kai would have got along with Diva if he had let her change him, I bet there relationship would have been awkward and full of resentment on Kai's part.

I quite agree with you. There would definately be resentment in that relationship.

[Revy]

That was awesome,serp!I'm going to rep u later<3

[Levithian]

I quite agree with you. There would definately be resentment in that relationship.

Yes but it would be interesting though, if Kai had accepted Diva's offer, it would also effect Kai and Saya.

[sori]

Yes, Kai and Saya wouldn't have had their fates to turn out as they have if he had taken Diva up on her offer. There's probably a good chance that things would have turned out completely the opposite as they have.

[Levithian]

Yes, Kai and Saya wouldn't have had their fates to turn out as they have if he had taken Diva up on her offer. There's probably a good chance that things would have turned out completely the opposite as they have.

I wonder why Diva did not just force him.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Hello. ^_^ What are we talking about? :grin

[Levithian]

Hello. ^_^ What are we talking about? :grin

Kia accepting Diva's offer. Any thoughts?

[TenshiNeko]

I wonder why Diva did not just force him.

I don't think Diva forced any of them to become chevaliers. Seems like they were all chosen for her by Amshel. Maybe she had to give her ok. Not sure if even that much she had control of things.

Has anybody read the manga? I just wondered what might be in it that's not in the anime. More details about stuff, maybe?


Do you think Joel ever noticed that Amshel wasn't aging?:hmm?

[Levithian]

I don't think Diva forced any of them to become chevaliers. Seems like they were all chosen for her by Amshel. Maybe she had to give her ok. Not sure if even that much she had control of things.

Has anybody read the manga? I just wondered what might be in it that's not in the anime. More details about stuff, maybe?


Do you think Joel ever noticed that Amshel wasn't aging?:hmm?

Well, I think Kai's case was special because she asked for him, unlike with the others. As for Joel, maybe he had his suspicions about Amshel, its very likely in any case. Do you think Joel was almost as bad as Amshel in some ways?

[Sapphire]

if kai accept diva's offer become her chevalier,
well maybe alot angst going on there
kai as diva's chevalier and he has to against saya
the angst ... I'd love that

kai as human already smexy,
I can't handle if he become chevalier
*faint :P

anyway, the temptation to see kai & saya angst like that would be awesome for me, but I think I'd still prefer kai & friendship / family loving thing ... though I'd love to read how kai's stuggle become diva's chevalier has to against saya in fanfic

Well, I think Kai's case was special because she asked for him, unlike with the others.


at first when I saw the scene diva's hand wanna touching kai's hair in eps 41 or 42, I thought she might like him abit more than her other chevaliers ... why she has to offer? why she not just force him giving her blood? I mean diva looked like has abit affection for kai, or maybe I'm just kai's silly fangirl LOL

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Kia accepting Diva's offer. Any thoughts?


Hmmm...... well.. I think that maybe Kai said no, because him as Diva's chevalier, would mean that he would be agst Saya's team and all that so...
Thats what I think. I can't remember much of that episode.

[Levithian]

~~Hinata~~ Quote:

Hmmm...... well.. I think that maybe Kai said no, because him as Diva's chevalier, would mean that he would be agst Saya's team and all that so...
Thats what I think. I can't remember much of that episode.

if kai accept diva's offer become her chevalier,
well maybe alot angst going on there
kai as diva's chevalier and he has to against saya
the angst ... I'd love that

kai as human already smexy,
I can't handle if he become chevalier
*faint :P

anyway, the temptation to see kai & saya angst like that would be awesome for me, but I think I'd still prefer kai & friendship / family loving thing ... though I'd love to read how kai's stuggle become diva's chevalier has to against saya in fanfic



at first when I saw the scene diva's hand wanna touching kai's hair in eps 41 or 42, I thought she might like him abit more than her other chevaliers ... why she has to offer? why she not just force him giving her blood? I mean diva looked like has abit affection for kai, or maybe I'm just kai's silly fangirl LOL


I think even if Kai was forced to change he would have still just tried to help Saya anyway. He really loved her more than anyone else. I don't think anyone else in Blood+ loved saya as much as Kai. pity something could not have come of it.:amuse

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Who do you think loved Saya more? Haji or Kai?

[Cooli]

Kai

Haji was there really just to serve and protect her

[Levithian]

Who do you think loved Saya more? Haji or Kai?

Kai loved her more IMO though its a close call, he could have made Saya very happy if she would have let him. if she wanted to be loved and treated like a human girl, and I think she did want that. Don't you think so?

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Yep! :nod I agree
If I was Saya's sister the only thing I would want is to have Saya feel better about her self.

[TenshiNeko]

Who do you think loved Saya more? Haji or Kai?

Kai

Haji was there really just to serve and protect her

Well, you probably knew I'd say this.
I think Haji loved her more than Kai did. Much more. He was there to serve and protect her, since that's the duty of a chevalier, but he was glad to be able to, because he loved her so. It was also his way of showing his love. By being there and showing his devotion to her. It wasn't Haji's personality to be outgoing and demonstrative like Kai, but Haji said he loved Saya from when they met.

Everything he did was to try to make her happy. He fell from that cliff to his death just trying to pick a flower for her...Not because he was her servant, but because he couldn't bear to say no to her and see her sad.
He was glad to become a chevalier so he could always be with her.
When she would tell someone that he was like family I could feel Haji's pain:( and when she left him alone at the ruins of the zoo so she could go off alone with Solomon!!............and they showed poor Haji there all alone holding one of the flowers he'd failed to give her before.:cry ....Honestly, I felt like smacking her for that!:mad
I will admit that Kai was more able to express his feelings to her, but I don't think anyone could love Saya like Haji did.

[Levithian]

Well, you probably knew I'd say this.
I think Haji loved her more than Kai did. Much more. He was there to serve and protect her, since that's the duty of a chevalier, but he was glad to be able to, because he loved her so. It was also his way of showing his love. By being there and showing his devotion to her. It wasn't Haji's personality to be outgoing and demonstrative like Kai, but Haji said he loved Saya from when they met.

Everything he did was to try to make her happy. He fell from that cliff to his death just trying to pick a flower for her...Not because he was her servant, but because he couldn't bear to say no to her and see her sad.
He was glad to become a chevalier so he could always be with her.
When she would tell someone that he was like family I could feel Haji's pain:( and when she left him alone at the ruins of the zoo so she could go off alone with Solomon!!............and they showed poor Haji there all alone holding one of the flowers he'd failed to give her before.:cry ....Honestly, I felt like smacking her for that!:mad
I will admit that Kai was more able to express his feelings to her, but I don't think anyone could love Saya like Haji did.

I won't argue that Haji did love her, and very much so, I was however very impressed by some of the things Kai said they way he expressed his love for Saya, but thats just me, I see where your coming from though...However back to my earlier question....Don't you think Joel was almost as bad as Amshel in some ways?

[TenshiNeko]

Not really. It was bad what they did to Diva, but I don't think at first they thought of them as "people".....more like creatures that hatched out of weird eggs. Creatures to experiment with. Of course that was wrong, but scientists sometimes get too involved in their projects to see the wrong in it.

After the decision was made to raise Diva as a "non-person", I don't think Joel had any further contact with her. Only Amshel did. I think it was a matter of "out of sight, out of mind" for Joel. He didn't think about Diva on a personal level at all. He just got the reports on how the experiment was doing. I don't think he knew all of what Amshel was doing with Diva.

Joel had the nicer half of the experiment. I don't think he was unkind to Saya at all. Even the idea of finding a mate for her to see if she could reproduce wasn't all that terrible. Many marriages back then were arranged ones. They never forced them to mate, or anything sick like that. I don't think Joel was really heartless enough to be able to do the other half of the exp... Doesn't seem like Joel did any experimenting for his own personal benefit, either.

Amshel was the really bad one, because when he saw that Diva really was a "person", not just some sort of animal/creature in human form, he should have demanded the experiment be ended. That it wasn't right to treat an intelligent being in this manner. He didn't because he wanted to keep her, and control any power she had, for his own use.

So, no, I don't think Joel was as bad as Amshel. Not even close. The whle experiment was wrong, but Amshel wasn't just bad. He was evil.

[Levithian]

Not really. It was bad what they did to Diva, but I don't think at first they thought of them as "people".....more like creatures that hatched out of weird eggs. Creatures to experiment with. Of course that was wrong, but scientists sometimes get too involved in their projects to see the wrong in it.

After the decision was made to raise Diva as a "non-person", I don't think Joel had any further contact with her. Only Amshel did. I think it was a matter of "out of sight, out of mind" for Joel. He didn't think about Diva on a personal level at all. He just got the reports on how the experiment was doing. I don't think he knew all of what Amshel was doing with Diva.

Joel had the nicer half of the experiment. I don't think he was unkind to Saya at all. Even the idea of finding a mate for her to see if she could reproduce wasn't all that terrible. Many marriages back then were arranged ones. They never forced them to mate, or anything sick like that. I don't think Joel was really heartless enough to be able to do the other half of the exp... Doesn't seem like Joel did any experimenting for his own personal benefit, either.

Amshel was the really bad one, because when he saw that Diva really was a "person", not just some sort of animal/creature in human form, he should have demanded the experiment be ended. That it wasn't right to treat an intelligent being in this manner. He didn't because he wanted to keep her, and control any power she had, for his own use.

So, no, I don't think Joel was as bad as Amshel. Not even close. The whle experiment was wrong, but Amshel wasn't just bad. He was evil.

Well you have some good points and I agree with you for those and other Reasons Amshel was worse but I cant let Joel off the hook that easy. he was not as horrible as Amshel, even less so if you think of the things amshel did later on...still If Joel ever came to think of Saya as a person he must have understood that Diva was as well. He still did nothing to stop her cruel treatment, hearing the reports as you say...on some level he knew what was going on. Yet at the same time, your right Amshel was worse. A monster IMO.'

Edit: That he decided to raise one as a daughter from the beginning, *Saya* means he initially could have thought of them as people, yet did what he did with Diva anyway.

[TenshiNeko]

I'm not saying it wasn't awful what Joel did, just that I don't think he had evil intentions.
He took Saya to raise as a daughter, but seems like at the start it was like he was taking in a strange little creature to see if, when treated like a daughter, it would act like a human. Not sure he actually thought of her as a person at first.

Yes, after he knew, he should have stopped what was happening with Diva. He was totally wrong there. He was kind of doing the same as the scientist guy working with the chiropterans...the guy working with Julia...can't remember his name. It was all done in the name of "scientific research".

Joel was doing bad things, but he wasn't doing them to be evil. He needed someone like Kai there. Kai would have stopped him and said "WTF do you think you're doing? They're people!"....and Joel would have come to his senses, maybe.

[Sapphire]

I think even if Kai was forced to change he would have still just tried to help Saya anyway. He really loved her more than anyone else. I don't think anyone else in Blood+ loved saya as much as Kai. pity something could not have come of it.:amuse

QFT :nuts

Who do you think loved Saya more? Haji or Kai?

I'd say Kai

don't get me wrong! hagi of course loves saya very much

I just prefer the way Kai loves saya much more
kai not just accept saya's wishes but he also trying to give her other options and it's good to be optimist about future

saya trust haji with make a wish for killing her
but it's KAI who can make her happy, be alive, smiling again
(even hagi admits this fact!)

Sorry I just don't see kai/saya as brother/sister
in my eyes, kai/saya not have definite relationship
I mean kai/saya is a kind of relationship lies between family/friends/possible romance, that's the beauty of kai/saya pairing :P

[Levithian]

I'm not saying it wasn't awful what Joel did, just that I don't think he had evil intentions.
He took Saya to raise as a daughter, but seems like at the start it was like he was taking in a strange little creature to see if, when treated like a daughter, it would act like a human. Not sure he actually thought of her as a person at first.

Yes, after he knew, he should have stopped what was happening with Diva. He was totally wrong there. He was kind of doing the same as the scientist guy working with the chiropterans...the guy working with Julia...can't remember his name. It was all done in the name of "scientific research".

Joel was doing bad things, but he wasn't doing them to be evil. He needed someone like Kai there. Kai would have stopped him and said "WTF do you think you're doing? They're people!"....and Joel would have come to his senses, maybe.

I can agree with that, you know it just comes done to a lack of ethics on Joel's part. Do you think he ever loved Saya like a daughter?



polaris

I'd say Kai

don't get me wrong! hagi of course loves saya very much

I just prefer the way Kai loves saya much more
kai not just accept saya's wishes but he also trying to give her other options and it's good to be optimist about future

saya trust haji with make a wish for killing him
but it's KAI who can make her happy, be alive, smiling again
(even hagi admits this fact!)

Sorry I just don't see kai/saya as brother/sister
in my eyes, kai/saya not have definite relationship
I mean kai/saya is a kind of relationship lies between family/friends/possible romance, that's the beauty of kai/saya pairing


Yeah that gives it a unique appeal for dose it not?

[Sapphire]

@FullMetalAlchemist9,
glad you agree with me about the uniqueness of kai/saya pairing
so I guess that's why I don't need kai/saya become canon romantic couple
I'm more than happy to see it's Kai who can make her smiling more than once ... even when she's hibernating in last eps, she still smiles on kai's shoulder/back :cry
Kai is Saya's summer angel LOL

[Levithian]

@FullMetalAlchemist9,
glad you agree with me about the uniqueness of kai/saya pairing
so I guess that's why I don't need kai/saya become canon romantic couple
I'm more than happy to see it's Kai who can make her smiling more than once ... even when she's hibernating in last eps, she still smiles on kai's shoulder/back :cry
Kai is Saya's summer angel LOL

summer angel... reminds me of that old song, ''Angel of the morning''.:amuse

[Sapphire]

I don't know about the song you mentioned, but I like the title

lol I call kai is saya's summer angel, bcoz she likes/enjoy his scent of summer in eps 39 when she's sleeping on his back:laugh

[Levithian]

I don't know about the song you mentioned, but I like the title

lol I call kai is saya's summer angel, bcoz she likes/enjoy his scent of summer in eps 39 when she's sleeping on his back:laugh

Yeah, I guessed thats why you said that...you know it would have been nice if they were closer because they could have had moments like that all the time. Kai makes Saya the happiest, even Haji thought so.

[Sapphire]

Yeah, I guessed thats why you said that...
smile-bigso you've guessed already why I said "kai is saya's summer angel"

the way she smelled or enjoyed his scent of summer in eps 39 is sooo "forbidden" to be called "siblings" :laugh

besides his personality-wise makes him deserved called as "angel" eventhough he not has wings

you know it would have been nice if they were closer because they could have had moments like that all the time.

all KaiYa moments in Blood+ already been great to me, but of course I'd love to see their moments to be added like you said

Kai makes Saya the happiest, even Haji thought so.

heck yeah! hagi approved!:nuts

[TenshiNeko]

I can agree with that, you know it just comes done to a lack of ethics on Joel's part. Do you think he ever loved Saya like a daughter?


I think he probably did after a while. Hard to say, since people back then didn't express their feelings as openly as they do now...especially in "rich and proper" households like theirs was. I think Joel cared about Saya, and would have protected her from harm... and not just because she was a valuable lab experiment. I think he did love her.



I'd say Kai

don't get me wrong! hagi of course loves saya very much

I just prefer the way Kai loves saya much more
kai not just accept saya's wishes but he also trying to give her other options and it's good to be optimist about future

saya trust haji with make a wish for killing her
but it's KAI who can make her happy, be alive, smiling again
(even hagi admits this fact!)

Sorry I just don't see kai/saya as brother/sister
in my eyes, kai/saya not have definite relationship
I mean kai/saya is a kind of relationship lies between family/friends/possible romance, that's the beauty of kai/saya pairing :P

Yes, Kai was the one who could make Saya smile. I agree. But that fact doesn't mean he loved her more! Just because someone knows, or doesn't know, what to do to make a person feel happy...It really isn't a measure of how much they love that person.

Kai was outgoing and easily expressed his feelings. Haji comes from a whole different time. To be proper was more NOT to express your feelings... Remember how thet acted at the zoo? everyone so proper and polite? ..and Haji was more reserved about his feelings, even as a boy. Kai is like 18, but Haji is like 180...and he has spent about 160 of those yrs trying to do whatever Saya wanted..just to try to make her happy. And trying never to upset her..the way he wouldn't let her see his wings, etc. Sometimes love goes so much deeper than what a person is able to express. That's what I see in Haji/Saya.

[Levithian]

I wonder what Haji did the majority of his life while Saya was sleeping?

[Sapphire]

hopefully my posts not offend any hagi/saya fans

bcoz I just love kai/saya in my own perspective
it's only opinion based on my own understanding & point of views
I don't against hagi/saya

KAIYA AWESOME!!! :nuts:nuts:nuts

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

I won't argue that Haji did love her, and very much so, I was however very impressed by some of the things Kai said they way he expressed his love for Saya, but thats just me, I see where your coming from though...However back to my earlier question....Don't you think Joel was almost as bad as Amshel in some ways?





I don't think that Joel was as bad as Amshel, but... I don't think that Diva would have ended up this way if he didn't lock her up in the tower.:notrust

[TenshiNeko]

hopefully my posts not offend any hagi/saya fans

bcoz I just love kai/saya in my own perspective
it's only opinion based on my own understanding & point of views
I don't against hagi/saya

KAIYA AWESOME!!! :nuts:nuts:nuts

I'm not offended. No problem. I can see how you'd like Kai/Saya...I just like Haji/Saya more. Kai has a certain charm...but I find Haji's stoic personality charming.smile-big

...hey, aren't you the one who likes Len/Kaho? Len doesn't express his feelings much either...and I think that mean face he makes is kinda scary!:amuse

I don't think that Joel was as bad as Amshel, but... I don't think that Diva would have ended up this way if he didn't lock her up in the tower.:notrust
Yeah, that's how I feel. Btw, your spoiler just has a red X in it

I wonder what Haji did the majority of his life while Saya was sleeping?

He did say he spent part of it walking the streets of old Paris alone at night.
... you'd think he would've picked up some new ideas on how to show Saya he loved her just by hanging out in Paris.:wink

I guess if Kai would be the song "Angel Of The Morning", then Haji would be the song " You Don't Have To Say You Love Me, just be close at hand....."

[Levithian]

hopefully my posts not offend any hagi/saya fans

bcoz I just love kai/saya in my own perspective
it's only opinion based on my own understanding & point of views
I don't against hagi/saya

KAIYA AWESOME!!! :nuts:nuts:nuts
Yes, yes it is.
Here you go KaiXSaya AMV: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cl0O-xEt9dM

I don't think that Joel was as bad as Amshel, but... I don't think that Diva would have ended up this way if he didn't lock her up in the tower.:notrust

Thats true, don't you think it would have been nice if he raised both girls as his daughters?

I'm not offended. No problem. I can see how you'd like Kai/Saya...I just like Haji/Saya more. Kai has a certain charm...but I find Haji's stoic personality charming.smile-big

...hey, aren't you the one who likes Len/Kaho? Len doesn't express his feelings much either...and I think that mean face he makes is kinda scary!:amuse


Yeah, that's how I feel. Btw, your spoiler just has a red X in it



He did say he spent part of it walking the streets of old Paris alone at night.
... you'd think he would've picked up some new ideas on how to show Saya he loved her just by hanging out in Paris.:wink

I guess if Kai would be the song "Angel Of The Morning", then Haji would be the song " You Don't Have To Say You Love Me, just be close at hand....."

After over 100, years he should have found something to say in that regard, but I think he was content to stay by her side, don't you?

[Sapphire]

Yes, yes it is.
Here you go KaiXSaya AMV: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cl0O-xEt9dM



kyaaaaaaa thank you, dear!:nuts

Kai is Saya's Summer Angel
Kai doesn't need Saya's kissing him or love him back
Kai just want to see Saya smiling again and he succeed, yay!!! :P
and Kai's there by her side in Saya's last minutes :cry
Kai is Saya's sunshine smile-big and comfort pillow :amuse

btw, may I claim you as my new sister?
I like you so much

[Levithian]

kyaaaaaaa thank you, dear!:nuts

Kai is Saya's Summer Angel
Kai doesn't need Saya's kissing him or love him back
Kai just want to see Saya smiling again and he succeed, yay!!! :P
and Kai's there by her side in Saya's last minutes :cry
Kai is Saya's sunshine smile-big and comfort pillow :amuse

btw, may I claim you as my new sister?
I like you so much

I'm flattered but I'm a guy you know, yet I agree with the above about KaiXSaya.:)

Who do you think was Diva's most loyal servant, I mean to Diva more than Amshel?:amuse

[Sapphire]

@FMA9,
omg! you're a guy? sorry ...:(
cool! then you could be my new brother, is it okay?:P
happy to know you agree with my postsmile-big about KaiYa

and to answer your question, I think it's James
he's sooo loyal to Diva, though I dislike him :madfor almost killing Kai
but I'm touched with his unrequited love for Diva:)

[Levithian]

@FMA9,
omg! you're a guy? sorry ...:(
cool! then you could be my new brother, is it okay?:P
happy to know you agree with my postsmile-big about KaiYa

and to answer your question, I think it's James
he's sooo loyal to Diva, though I dislike him :madfor almost killing Kai
but I'm touched with his unrequited love for Diva:)

Yeah, its ok I can be your E-brother if you like, and I think James thought of Diva as a mother in many ways.

[Sapphire]

okay, from now on you're my E-bro :)

:oh james thinks of diva as a mother? really?
mmhh I never thought of that before

[Levithian]

okay, from now on you're my E-bro :)

:oh james thinks of diva as a mother? really?
mmhh I never thought of that before

Remember when Nathan kept teasing James about carrying a picture of mother, and Diva in the earlier episodes called James her child?

[Sapphire]

mmhh probably those are some of episodes I missed or haven't watch yet

so james loves diva as child to his mommy
kinda cute

[Levithian]

mmhh probably those are some of episodes I missed or haven't watch yet

so james loves diva as child to his mommy
kinda cute

Yeah, I guess, so you have not yet watched all the episodes?

[Sapphire]

no, I haven't watch all eps

[Serp]

Howdy, FMA9 :nod
Fanclub :nod
Anything of interest happening.

[Levithian]

Howdy, FMA9 :nod
Fanclub :nod
Anything of interest happening.

Here's some new, fanarts/screen shots.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/Blood1aa.png

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/Bloood2bb.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/Blood3cc.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj115/FullMetalAlchemist9/Blood4dd.jpg

[Sapphire]

diva is sexy in that third pix

[Levithian]

diva is sexy in that third pix

Yeah Diva's pretty, but Saya looks a little better IMO...who do you think looks best?

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@tenshi-neko It's just a red X? Aw....

@FMA9 Nice pics!

[Sapphire]

Yeah Diva's pretty, but Saya looks a little better IMO...who do you think looks best?

both are pretty
but different ...

saya is sweet
diva is sexy

[WalkingNosebleed]

May I join? I love this anime :iria

[Sapphire]

welcome! :nuts

blood+ is awesome anime :amuse

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@Walking Nosebleed Welcome! The leader will add you soon! :)

Tell us, who is you favorite charater?

[Levithian]

May I join? I love this anime :iria

Welcome, favorite Character?

both are pretty
but different ...

saya is sweet
diva is sexy

True she is, but in the later episodes when Saya gets her new hair style she's kind of sexy as well, don't you think so? though Yeah Diva is more so but Saya is the prettiest.

[TenshiNeko]

I thought Saya's new hairstyle was she just let the old style grow longer, and didn't care anymore. It looked good, but her attitude then made her seem more sad than sexy. Saya is prettier than Diva, even though they are alike.:)

Never thought of Diva as sexy. Maybe because she wears that little girl sailor outfit with the long shorts. .....soooo, you guys find that sort of thing sexy??:huh....thought you would've prefered Saya's schoolgirl outfit.:wink


Hinata... onee-chan!:wOOt..Yeah, just a red X. When I tried to get properties it didn't give me a complete address. Mine have done that sometimes. I never know why. Can everybody else see pic?

When Diva's eyes glowed, didn't they glow blue? (I thought they did, but I'm too lazy to go back and check.) If they did, shouldn't the shiff's eyes glowed blue also? Since they were made from Diva's blood? Their eyes glowed red.

[Levithian]

I thought Saya's new hairstyle was she just let the old style grow longer, and didn't care anymore. It looked good, but her attitude then made her seem more sad than sexy. Saya is prettier than Diva, even though they are alike.:)

Yeah, yeah her hairstyle was just to let it grow longer, and yes she seemed sad, maybe a better word would be beautiful.

Never thought of Diva as sexy. Maybe because she wears that little girl sailor outfit with the long shorts. .....soooo, you guys find that sort of thing sexy??:huh....thought you would've prefered Saya's schoolgirl outfit.:wink

I think polaris was going by that picture I posted, the one before she got Riku's face and when she wore a dress.

Hinata... onee-chan!:wOOt..Yeah, just a red X. When I tried to get properties it didn't give me a complete address. Mine have done that sometimes. I never know why. Can everybody else see pic?

When Diva's eyes glowed, didn't they glow blue? (I thought they did, but I'm too lazy to go back and check.) If they did, shouldn't the shiff's eyes glowed blue also? Since they were made from Diva's blood? Their eyes glowed red.

Yeah Diva's eyes glowed blue, though none of the Shiff's eyes did nor any of her servants for that matter I think that was unique to Diva.


What do you think about the fact that Haji's eyes never glowed and he seemed not to have a full transformation, just the wings and his hands?

[Serp]

What do you think about the fact that Haji's eyes never glowed and he seemed not to have a full transformation, just the wings and his hands?

I think they mentioned this, wasn't it something about his reluctancy to drink human blood, that weakened him :huh IIRC around the time the schiff attacked them.

[Levithian]

I think they mentioned this, wasn't it something about his reluctancy to drink human blood, that weakened him :huh IIRC around the time the schiff attacked them.

...and yet Haji was so incredibly strong.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Haji is really strong... :box lol...:)


@tenshi-neko Thanks for telling me! Whew...

[Serp]

Yes Haji was the second oldest chevalier (I believe that age=power to some degree) , but unlike Amshel he couldn't access his full Chiropteran form. Amshel was indeed stronger than him, and could quite possibly beat Haji using his own strength, but it took first a lightening strike and ultimately Sayas blood to stop Amshel. But I predict if Haji had indeed drank Human blood he would be on par with Amshel.

Proof to back is up is between the girls, Saya was physically weaker and slower than Diva, having never shown super strength or super speed (apart from the last episode, seeing as she started to drink more in part 2, rather than having transfusions)

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

Amshel was stronger than Haji by a long shot. But Haji and Saya would kill him.

One episode that freaked me out, was the one with the demon kids.
It was not Saya who freaked me out, but the kids that were turned into demons. O_O *shakes a littel*

[Serp]

Yea that was fucked :P

[Sapphire]

True she is, but in the later episodes when Saya gets her new hair style she's kind of sexy as well, don't you think so? though Yeah Diva is more so but Saya is the prettiest.

yeah of course after that one year pass by, Saya become sexy too

Saya has really sweet face & her sad look make me want to hug her to comfort her, but those three guys Hagi, Kai, Solomon already did

Saya also sexy, especially when she's fighting ... awesome!!!



Never thought of Diva as sexy. Maybe because she wears that little girl sailor outfit with the long shorts. .....soooo, you guys find that sort of thing sexy??:huh....thought you would've prefered Saya's schoolgirl outfit.:wink



:laugh I meant diva is sexy with long hair

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@serp Yeah..rly O_O That was fucked up bad....

HAAAAA!!! THERES ONE NOW!!!!

HI-YA!!!!!!!

*takes out sword and eyes glow red*

DIE!!!! GET AWAY FROM ME!!!

*stops*


But wait....These are just kids....:wtf

What sould I do?! Kill, or don't kill?

Demon: Die.....~~Hinata~~...............die.....die.....D IE...

Umm....I would kill them, but.....


@polaris


Diva is sexy with long hair?

I think Kai would look smexy without his shirt.....:ohpek

[Sapphire]

I think Kai would look smexy without his shirt.....:ohpek

kyaaaaaaaaaa:ruri:ruri:ruri:ruri:ruri

you really know how to make me screaming! :iria

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

:rofl Is Kai the only person you ever think about? :laugh

[Levithian]

@Hinata, yeah that was the second time we get to see Saya lose control, but its understandable is it not?

Serp Yes Haji was the second oldest chevalier (I believe that age=power to some degree) , but unlike Amshel he couldn't access his full Chiropteran form. Amshel was indeed stronger than him, and could quite possibly beat Haji using his own strength, but it took first a lightening strike and ultimately Sayas blood to stop Amshel. But I predict if Haji had indeed drank Human blood he would be on par with Amshel.

Proof to back is up is between the girls, Saya was physically weaker and slower than Diva, having never shown super strength or super speed (apart from the last episode, seeing as she started to drink more in part 2, rather than having transfusions)

I wonder what Haji's full Transformation would look like though? If he drank enough Blood. I somehow think it would look a bit more elegant than Amshel's.:amuse



@polaris, it would have added a a whole other dimension to the anime, and a level of awkwardness around Haji, if Saya and Kai would have been lovers. I don't know how Haji would have dealt with that.:nuts

[Sapphire]

Is Kai the only person you ever think about?

:wtf:wtf:wtf:wtf:wtf
my real boyfriend named "Rahmat" is the MAN of my life
*sorry for alittle bit show-off:P

kai is hot but he's nothing compared to my "real-love":wink

besides my fav anime/manga males not only Kai ... in my siggy, just click the button of "anime/manga males" then you can see I love them just as an ordinary fangirl ... I'm not gonna cry if I don't see them in one day ... getting all "squeee" and "kyaaa" to their scenes but nothing more bcoz they're only fictional characters :amuse


@polaris, it would have added a a whole other dimension to the anime, and a level of awkwardness around Haji, if Saya and Kai would have been lovers. I don't know how Haji would have dealt with that.

Kai/Saya/Hagi have that potential of great love triangle
the angst would be awesome
:ruri

[Levithian]

You know its possible that more could happen with Saya Kai and the others if they decided to make a continuation of the anime. I would only like that though if they do it right.

[Serp]

Just from his wings, you could see he would look more elegant, but then again look at Solomon :iria Human form :D: Chiropteran form. I think James or Karl had the most designwise looking forms. James and Nathan can't fly I found that lol worthy. And I think Haji would look more elegant, but his persona wouldn't fit a full transformation, the looks and fighting style is more brawler, just he does his fair share of brawling but :P I can't picture Haji fighting as a 'demon thingy' It just wouldn't be Haji. Now the question would be what would Rikus chiropteran form look like.
And another point to show that Haji is weaker than he should be is, his hand he should have been able to change it back to human like the others could. Karl is the only character in the series to be able to grow back limbs, as even Solomon finds that feat amazing and James is now a member of the white community. Technically Riku was a chevalier long enough to atleast have a part transformation or be at least peak human in his body, as shown with Haji's wings as they were leaving the zoo.

And I fact that always makes me laugh is that the bad guys were jews :awesome Granted so was the good guys but :awesome

[TenshiNeko]

Those demon kids sure were creepy! but it made me think Oh, so that's where the chupacabras came from!:amazed


I think Kai would look smexy without his shirt.....:ohpek


We did get to see Haji shirtless...and Solomon too when he was in the dungeon... So I think there MUST be a scene with Kai shirtless.

Didn't Kai take off his shirt in the park? When he tried to shield Moses from the sun with it?

@Hinata, yeah that was the second time we get to see Saya lose control, but its understandable is it not?



I wonder what Haji's full Transformation would look like though? If he drank enough Blood. I somehow think it would look a bit more elegant than Amshel's.:amuse


I think that even if Haji drank blood, he would not allow himself to transform any more than just the wings. It would upset Saya and he wouldn't do that. Probably wouldn't allow his eyes to glow either.


@polaris, it would have added a a whole other dimension to the anime, and a level of awkwardness around Haji, if Saya and Kai would have been lovers. I don't know how Haji would have dealt with that.:nuts

He would've been upset, but he try not to show it. He would do anything Saya wanted, to make her happy, even if that was for her to be with another man. Haji would still stay with her, as stoic as ever,... but he might threaten Kai privately that, if Kai ever hurt Saya, Haji would have to kill him.

Just from his wings, you could see he would look more elegant, but then again look at Solomon :iria Human form :D: Chiropteran form. I think James or Karl had the most designwise looking forms. James and Nathan can't fly I found that lol worthy.

They couldn't fly? I didn't know that. Was there any reason given?

And I think Haji would look more elegant, but his persona wouldn't fit a full transformation, the looks and fighting style is more brawler, just he does his fair share of brawling but :P I can't picture Haji fighting as a 'demon thingy' It just wouldn't be Haji. Now the question would be what would Rikus chiropteran form look like.

I agree. Besides, Haji is one of the main romantic characters. Can't have the fangirls grossed out and going Ewwwwwwww!:( at him!

And another point to show that Haji is weaker than he should be is, his hand he should have been able to change it back to human like the others could. Karl is the only character in the series to be able to grow back limbs, as even Solomon finds that feat amazing and James is now a member of the white community. Technically Riku was a chevalier long enough to atleast have a part transformation or be at least peak human in his body, as shown with Haji's wings as they were leaving the zoo. That's true! maybe cuz Riku was a kid it took longer?

And I fact that always makes me laugh is that the bad guys were jews :awesome Granted so was the good guys but :awesome

I think Amshel was maybe actually Jewish. I don't think any of the others were. Solomon only took the name when he became a chevalier, right? James Ironside probably not. Karl was Vietnamese, so also probably not. Nathan Mahler..well, Mahler is German, but don't think it's Jewish.

I'm glad Nathan didn't die. He wasn't really very bad.
Any thoughts on whose chevalier you think Nathan was? Actually Diva's? Her mother's? or maybe the chevalier who mated with Diva's mother?

[Serp]

With the Jew thing, I just really meant Amshel Goldsmith and Joel Goldschmidt, being the founders of the 2 rival factions in the show.
And Nathan and James were the only ones not shown to have wings, if James could fly then the whole thing of him falling down the pit would be useless, and Nathan is just well :love

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@tenshineko

Wheen I saw the demons...
I went to bed after seeing that ep. Then I had a bad dream. I was a demon, and Saya was comeing at me with a sword...
Then, *blood splatters* Thats when I woke up. O_O

Haji and Solomon without their shirts? I must have missed that ep...
Without their shirts they would be smexy..
ahh... *faints, but wakes up with haji and solomon looking at me*

Huh? Haji. Solomon? Without your shirts? ahh.. *faints again*

Haji:....? A fan girl.

Solo: Yep.

Kai: Girls.. -____-;;


@FMA9

Yeah, it is. If she didn't kill them, they would have killed innocent people.
So, I thank Saya for that.



@polaris

Kai: Drawing.

Your man: Real.

:laugh

[Levithian]

I think Saya was wrong to blame herself for what happened in the war and when she cut those people during the monstrous children episode. To be honest people kept putting her in those situations, first irresponsibly attempting to use and force her during the war then putting her in other situations that would test her sanity. Any casualties they sustain when attempting to use a person as a weapon are on there own heads. The red shield did not care what happened to Saya only that she perform.

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

they used her. She never wanted to go crazy. She wanted to be a nomal girl.
Your right, the red shield did not care for Saya.
If haji really loved Saya, he would have told the red shield to stop pushing her and useing her. But he just said "You have to do it..."
And when Saya wanted to kill herself. Haji just said "If that is your wish."
I'm happy Kai punched Haji in the face!
Killing yourself is just stupid.
but I feel Saya's pain..
Haveing your brother and father die, sister wanting to kill you, all that. It's just such a sad life. :cry:scry:cry:scry

[Sapphire]

yeah saya should not blame herself
I'm glad Kai's punch succeed making hagi active to stop saya killing herself and her nieces

bcoz "suicide" not solve problems ... "face" the problems is the answer

but I like saya not all perfect heroine ... saya has flaws which I can understand ... and I like more she realize she should keeps living on

thank goodness saya have people around her who also care about her as for just herself, not as "tool"


@polaris

Kai: Drawing.

Your man: Real.

:laugh

QFT :laugh

though you should put my "real" boyfriend's name there "R"

[Levithian]

Also Saya should not have disliked herself for simply being what she was, I think thats what put the barrier between her and Kai. She understood at the very end but it was to late, but she never entirely got it. Kai would have made her happiest because she wanted to be a normal girl.

She opted for Haji in the end because of his species. Also because she only ever let him get close before that, so there was development. If she could have got past her species a year before that she would have ended up with Kai as a matter of course.

Really she cared for Kai as much as she could with the limited relationship they had. Also because Kai, left it open for Saya but did not follow through until it was to late. She wanted to be convinced and Kai partly succeeded. He did the selfless thing and saved her but due to his approach and there lack of development failed to win her romantic love.

Kai could have done it too, broke through her wall and won her, if he would have did the right things a year before. Kai was almost to nice. He passively instead of actively pursued her. Coming off as a very close friend but not a love interest, its all in the approach if you ask me. You remember what she said when Haji suggested she be with Kai, having to do with what she is. He could have overcome that.

[TenshiNeko]

Aww, Solomon's shirt was open when he was in the dungeon, but he wasn't shirtless. I think there WAS a scene, but I can't find it:(
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/50/0000455350/66/img9a74bb4ezikbzj.jpeg

http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/50/0000455350/69/img82cffc8dzik5zj.jpeg

But Haji WAS shirtless.:)When they were in Russia. After they fell in the water.http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/57/img60450573vqv0ow.jpeg

Here you go....Kai in the shower.:nutshttp://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/21/imgfec33d0dvno4w7.jpeg


I think the Red Shield did care about Saya, but they NEEDED her power. They knew Saya WANTED to destroy the chiropterans. Her entire goal in life was to stop them...ever since Diva killed everyone. So they thought she would not mind much being woken up maybe? and they did have a medical unit there especially for her in case waking her made her not well. They just never anticipated that it would make her act the way it did.


As for Kai taking a different approach...By that same thought, if Haji had taken a different approach earlier, if he had confessed his love like 100 yrs before, there may have been no opportunity for Kai at all. Everybody but Saya could see Haji was in love with her.

[Levithian]

As for Kai taking a different approach...By that same thought, if Haji had taken a different approach earlier, if he had confessed his love like 100 yrs before, there may have been no opportunity for Kai at all. Everybody but Saya could see Haji was in love with her.

Now, Tenshi thats probably true, SayaXHaji dose also have its appeal, I like both parings I just have a fondness for SayaXKai...I just think it could have had potential thats all.:amuse

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

@tenshi KIWAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!! :ruri Smexy pictures! +reps!

@polaris

:laugh


@FAM9


I agree. :amuse

[Sapphire]

@TenshiNeko,
thanx for posting that scene kai in the shower :nuts
kyaaaaaaaaa *drooling

Also Saya should not have disliked herself for simply being what she was, I think thats what put the barrier between her and Kai. She understood at the very end but it was to late, but she never entirely got it. Kai would have made her happiest because she wanted to be a normal girl.

She opted for Haji in the end because of his species. Also because she only ever let him get close before that, so there was development. If she could have got past her species a year before that she would have ended up with Kai as a matter of course.

Really she cared for Kai as much as she could with the limited relationship they had. Also because Kai, left it open for Saya but did not follow through until it was to late. She wanted to be convinced and Kai partly succeeded. He did the selfless thing and saved her but due to his approach and there lack of development failed to win her romantic love.

Kai could have done it too, broke through her wall and won her, if he would have did the right things a year before. Kai was almost to nice. He passively instead of actively pursued her. Coming off as a very close friend but not a love interest, its all in the approach if you ask me. You remember what she said when Haji suggested she be with Kai, having to do with what she is. He could have overcome that.


I like KaiYa also bcoz of it's dynamic relationship
I mean their relationship not stand-still on one same place
they can change behave to each other, inner struggle at hearts
bcoz of their differences, so I love the angst of KaiYa
they could never be "together" as romantic couple bcoz of their differences, but that's one of the reasons I love KaiYa
and the sweetness of their moments too lol

eventhough kai's passively pursed her failed them to become canon romantic couple, but dunno why ... I just love KaiYa, their friendship/family bond more interest me than any of her potential love relationships with hagi or solomon

bcoz I think some bonds are stronger than blood
and some friendships are more attractive than romance

... well at least to me lol

[Levithian]

@TenshiNeko,
thanx for posting that scene kai in the shower :nuts
kyaaaaaaaaa *drooling




I like KaiYa also bcoz of it's dynamic relationship
I mean their relationship not stand-still on one same place
they can change behave to each other, inner struggle at hearts
bcoz of their differences, so I love the angst of KaiYa
they could never be "together" as romantic couple bcoz of their differences, but that's one of the reasons I love KaiYa
and the sweetness of their moments too lol

eventhough kai's passively pursed her failed them to become canon romantic couple, but dunno why ... I just love KaiYa, their friendship/family bond more interest me than any of her potential love relationships with hagi or solomon

bcoz I think some bonds are stronger than blood
and some friendships are more attractive than romance

... well at least to me lol

Thats also a good point Polaris, and I agree, still a romantic relationship would have been nice though, right?.... But yeah you have a point.


Anyway, on to another subject, how do you think things would have been different if when Diva mated with Riku she did not kill him? I mean how would that have effected everything?

[Sapphire]

Thats also a good point Polaris, and I agree, still a romantic relationship would have been nice though, right?.... But yeah you have a point.


Anyway, on to another subject, how do you think things would have been different if when Diva mated with Riku she did not kill him? I mean how would that have effected everything?

oh of course KaiYa in romantic relationship would be nice ... I won't deny it

I just view there other things in KaiYa than just it's potential become romance pairing ... one of the other things is their friendship/family bond

I just like Kaiya as the way they are ... doesn't matter to me whether they're in romantic relationship or not


================================

I'm still mad diva raped and killed riku ... but I think diva/riku would be unusual cute pairing (I'm surprised myself for saying that:laugh) ... things would be different I guess and more interesting, more complex

[Levithian]

oh of course KaiYa in romantic relationship would be nice ... I won't deny it

I just view there other things in KaiYa than just it's potential become romance pairing ... one of the other things is their friendship/family bond

I just like Kaiya as the way they are ... doesn't matter to me whether they're in romantic relationship or not


================================

I'm still mad diva raped and killed riku ... but I think diva/riku would be unusual cute pairing (I'm surprised myself for saying that:laugh) ... things would be different I guess and more interesting, more complex

Don't you think he's a bit young for her...Lol but realy Saya might not have went away for a year if Riku did not die, don't ask me why I think that though.

[Sapphire]

LOL :laugh yes he's four years younger than her ... that's why I use word "unusual" :laugh but I just feel if we just forget their age differences and only focus on their different personalities I think riku/diva would be nice opposite-attracts pairing

oh I don't think you need explanation why you think saya would not go if riku not killed ... bcoz I feel the same way too ... dunno how to explain it ... but I feel if riku only raped & saya not go anywhere, like I said it would be more complex & more intense:)

wow! it should be put in fanfics :laugh

[Levithian]

LOL :laugh yes he's four years younger than her ... that's why I use word "unusual" :laugh but I just feel if we just forget their age differences and only focus on their different personalities I think riku/diva would be nice opposite-attracts pairing

oh I don't think you need explanation why you think saya would not go if riku not killed ... bcoz I feel the same way too ... dunno how to explain it ... but I feel if riku only raped & saya not go anywhere, like I said it would be more complex & more intense:)

wow! it should be put in fanfics :laugh

Saya would have freaked if Riku was in a romantic relationship with Diva though...yet it would have been amusing to be sure.:amuse

[Sapphire]

:laugh yes that's one of things I would like to see about the effect of "what if riku not killed? or not raped either? and riku/diva just attracted to each other" (though I prefer riku should be saya's chevalier when he's 16 years old so that the idea of riku/diva paired become much more suitable lol)

saya and kai reaction to riku/diva would make the situation become more interesting I think ... and like you said it's amusing to see

I prefer this way of plot in fanfics has to be made:) ... bcoz in anime not like that :( ... I have many ideas want to put into fanfics but I'm not smart in putting those ideas into words :(

[Phoenix-Crimson-Flower17]

To me, age is but a number. (sometimes)

I think DivaxRiku would be cool. But Saya would freak out! :laugh

[Levithian]

The reason Saya wanted to die is because of her sisters actions, and that was because of Amshel and his partners cruelty in how the treated Diva...Saya got it in her mind that she was the same as the others she fought and after getting rid of them she would terminate herself. That in fact she was only allowed to exist to accomplish this.

This belief was destructive and twisted. Haji should have attempted to talk her out of it in the beginning, but he blindly followed orders. She should have been persuaded to adopt another less self destructive philosophy. Haji could protect her from enemies but he could not protect her from herself.

She should have known that its the heart and actions of a individual and not there species that define who they are.

She should never have harbored such distaste for herself over a accident of birth. Imagine how painful those months must have been for her doing all that, thinking she was a monster and knowing her only reward at the end was death. Luckily it did not end that way...

Yet when you think about it when your whole goal in life is to one day murder your sister then commit Suicide there must be some psychotic tendencies there somewhere in the mix. Yet for all that I understood Saya's confusion and still enjoyed her as a character...

After all, in the end she simply wanted to be a ordinary girl. The ending was Semi-happy I just wish she had more time with her ordinary life at the end.

[Sapphire]

To me, age is but a number. (sometimes)

I think DivaxRiku would be cool. But Saya would freak out! :laugh

well that's the drama :laugh we all gonna like I think


The reason Saya wanted to die is because of her sisters actions, and that was because of Amshel and his partners cruelty in how the treated Diva...Saya got it in her mind that she was the same as the others she fought and after getting rid of them she would terminate herself. That in fact she was only allowed to exist to accomplish this.

This belief was destructive and twisted. Haji should have attempted to talk her out of it in the beginning, but he blindly followed orders. She should have been persuaded to adopt another less self destructive philosophy. Haji could protect her from enemies but he could not protect her from herself.

She should have known that its the heart and actions of a individual and not there species that define who they are.

She should never have harbored such distaste for herself over a accident of birth. Imagine how painful those months must have been for her doing all that, thinking she was a monster and knowing her only reward at the end was death. Luckily it did not end that way...

Yet when you think about it when your whole goal in life is to one day murder your sister then commit Suicide there must be some psychotic tendencies there somewhere in the mix. Yet for all that I understood Saya's confusion and still enjoyed her as a character...

After all, in the end she simply wanted to be a ordinary girl. The ending was Semi-happy I just wish she had more time with her ordinary life at the end.

I agree with most of ur points about saya here

yeah I wish she had more time with her ordinary life at the end too
perhaps more one or two episodes before she sleeping
or at least let her playing around for awhile with her nieces
eventhough just when they're four or five years old at first

[Levithian]

well that's the drama :laugh we all gonna like I think




I agree with most of ur points about saya here

yeah I wish she had more time with her ordinary life at the end too
perhaps more one or two episodes before she sleeping
or at least let her playing around for awhile with her nieces
eventhough just when they're four or five years old at first

Yeah, Saya is my favorite Character.Though she has her faults but she's one of the all time best female leads I almost hate to be to critical...but there is much to talk about concerning Saya.

[TenshiNeko]

To me, age is but a number. (sometimes)

I think DivaxRiku would be cool. But Saya would freak out! :laugh

Emotionally Diva seemed closer to Riku's age than her own.( I mean 16, not like 200) They could've been good together. Who know's? Maybe with Riku she could've learned to be nice.smile-big....as long as they got rid of nasty old Amshel.


After all, in the end she simply wanted to be a ordinary girl. The ending was Semi-happy I just wish she had more time with her ordinary life at the end.

She could never actually be an ordinary girl. She was what she was. But that's ok. I liked that she seemed to finally accept what she was, and that it was ok to be what she was, even if she wasn't really ordinary. (Did I make sense there?):amuse


So, does no one else wonder about Nathan's origins?:huh He's the only one that they don't say how he became a chevalier. I am supposing he was NOT Diva's chevalier, or Saya's blood would have killed him. Seems like he was a lot more powerful than he shows. He is just more passive. ...but I don't remember Amshel ever ordering Nathan around. ....and when Amshel and Solomon were fighting and wrecking the place, Nathan ordered them to stop...and they did! hmmmmmmm.

Polaris!.....off topic:) I hope everything will be wonderful for you! Is it soon?
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[Levithian]

Emotionally Diva seemed closer to Riku's age than her own.( I mean 16, not like 200) They could've been good together. Who know's? Maybe with Riku she could've learned to be nice.smile-big....as long as they got rid of nasty old Amshel.



She could never actually be an ordinary girl. She was what she was. But that's ok. I liked that she seemed to finally accept what she was, and that it was ok to be what she was, even if she wasn't really ordinary. (Did I make sense there?):amuse


So, does no one else wonder about Nathan's origins?:huh He's the only one that they don't say how he became a chevalier. I am supposing he was NOT Diva's chevalier, or Saya's blood would have killed him. Seems like he was a lot more powerful than he shows. He is just more passive. ...but I don't remember Amshel ever ordering Nathan around. ....and when Amshel and Solomon were fighting and wrecking the place, Nathan ordered them to stop...and they did! hmmmmmmm.

Polaris!.....off topic:) I hope everything will be wonderful for you! Is it soon?
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He could have been as old as Saya's mother for all we know. No one ordered him around, in fact he told the others what to do when he felt like it. He did not seem to be under Amshel's control I don't think he was Diva's. Hell he could have been the one to Impregnate Saya's mother possibly.

[sori]

Gomen ne:sweat I've not been able to get on lately. What's the topic today?

[Levithian]

Gomen ne:sweat I've not been able to get on lately. What's the topic today?

Well, we have been talking about Saya's views, see my above long post, What it would have been like if Riku had lived, What if Saya X Diva happened without Riku's death, and about the origin of Nathan. Feel free to comment on ether of these or choose something new.:)

[Sapphire]

Yeah, Saya is my favorite Character.Though she has her faults but she's one of the all time best female leads I almost hate to be to critical...but there is much to talk about concerning Saya.

that's one of the reasons I like about saya ... she has her own faults, she's not perfect heroine, eventhough she's not human but she's described as HUMAN ... am I confusing? :P


Emotionally Diva seemed closer to Riku's age than her own.( I mean 16, not like 200) They could've been good together.

Polaris!.....off topic:) I hope everything will be wonderful for you! Is it soon?
http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/love/love0060.gif

yeah Riku could influence Diva become nice:), then their babies would transform her become nicer person smile-big ... I just like their different personalities:amuse


the date in below my username ... august 22ndX3

thank you so much :hug

[sori]

I have one question about it:oh Who's Nathan?

[Levithian]

I have one question about it:oh Who's Nathan?

A chevalier on Diva's side but we don't think Diva changed him because saya's Blood could not kill him, we wonder where he came from.

[sori]

I don't think I've ever seen him before in the anime:oh

[Levithian]

I don't think I've ever seen him before in the anime:oh

You must have just missed a few episodes. Including the ending ones. Right?

[sori]

I've missed a lot of the later episodes. They didn't show them where I live.

[Levithian]

I've missed a lot of the later episodes. They didn't show them where I live.

Oh..do you want to catch up online?

[sori]

Don't have much time to:(:sweat

Gotta go now, hopefully I can get on soon like I used to:sweat

[Levithian]

that's one of the reasons I like about saya ... she has her own faults, she's not perfect heroine, eventhough she's not human but she's described as HUMAN ... am I confusing? :P


I agree with what your saying...Saya personality wise is a nice person who has some problems, don't you that so? I always thought of her as a person even if she's not human.

[TenshiNeko]

I don't think I've ever seen him before in the anime:oh

Some pics of Nathan. You probably saw him but don't remember. http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/01/img6f9d284bvemdhs.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/03/img1bcdb3afvemsxc.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/04/img1defe9b8ven8n3.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/50/0000455350/07/imged658cbczikdzj.png

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I agree with what your saying...Saya personality wise is a nice person who has some problems, don't you that so? I always thought of her as a person even if she's not human.

Yeah, I always thought of her as a person. They're all people, just different. Not humans, but still people.

It wouldn't be bad not to age, but the 30 yrs hibernations....Just think, Saya meets somebody and makes friends when they are 16. She goes to sleep. Wakes up and her friend is 46. Next time 76.

[Levithian]

Some pics of Nathan. You probably saw him but don't remember. http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/01/img6f9d284bvemdhs.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/03/img1bcdb3afvemsxc.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/92/0000146092/04/img1defe9b8ven8n3.jpeg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/50/0000455350/07/imged658cbczikdzj.png

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Yeah, I always thought of her as a person. They're all people, just different. Not humans, but still people.

It wouldn't be bad not to age, but the 30 yrs hibernations....Just think, Saya meets somebody and makes friends when they are 16. She goes to sleep. Wakes up and her friend is 46. Next time 76.

Yeah it would be hard on her, unless those she meets are of her breed to be honest I think eventually she would start to change others out of being lonely.

[TenshiNeko]

Aww, but she would feel bad about doing that.:(
If only they could just have killed off Amshel... Probably they could all be friends

:hmm?If Saya was always kinda weak from lack of human blood...Why didn't they transfuse her more? and they couldn't transfuse Haji too?:huh
Imo he/they should've taken blood from the recently deceased. There were always people dying around them. Not to be gross, but a coroner or mortician drains the blood from the body anyway. Just disposes of it. Seems a shame to let something just go to waste when somebody needs it.....They could just avoid the middle man. ...Too offensive?

[Levithian]

Aww, but she would feel bad about doing that.:(
If only they could just have killed off Amshel... Probably they could all be friends

:hmm?If Saya was always kinda weak from lack of human blood...Why didn't they transfuse her more? and they couldn't transfuse Haji too?:huh
Imo he/they should've taken blood from the recently deceased. There were always people dying around them. Not to be gross, but a coroner or mortician drains the blood from the body anyway. Just disposes of it. Seems a shame to let something just go to waste when somebody needs it.....They could just avoid the middle man. ...Too offensive?

Yes, Saya would have been sad to do that but if she did not have sleep cycles in time she would have broke down and done it anyway, being sick of losing friends and family. Anyway yeah, she should have arranged to drink more Blood but it was distasteful to her.


Do you guys think Saya was a lonely person?

[Jaded Heart]

I think for a while Saya was lonely, although she was surrounded by a sea of people she wasn't really there. I think before she met Haji, Kai, Riku and her other friends her life felt empty and pointless. When she found people she could put her trust in, people she could love and protect she found meaning in her life and the loneliness didn't consume her.

She was once a lonely person, that no one understood but once she made friends and had important people and found purpose in her life, the loneliness lessened.

Stop me if I'm rambling.

[Levithian]

I think for a while Saya was lonely, although she was surrounded by a sea of people she wasn't really there. I think before she met Haji, Kai, Riku and her other friends her life felt empty and pointless. When she found people she could put her trust in, people she could love and protect she found meaning in her life and the loneliness didn't consume her.

She was once a lonely person, that no one understood but once she made friends and had important people and found purpose in her life, the loneliness lessened.

Stop me if I'm rambling.

No, that makes sense.

[Sapphire]

I think for a while Saya was lonely, although she was surrounded by a sea of people she wasn't really there. I think before she met Haji, Kai, Riku and her other friends her life felt empty and pointless. When she found people she could put her trust in, people she could love and protect she found meaning in her life and the loneliness didn't consume her.

She was once a lonely person, that no one understood but once she made friends and had important people and found purpose in her life, the loneliness lessened.

Stop me if I'm rambling.


I won't stop you

I like reading ur post:)

[Levithian]

Saya may have others but she always seemed some how distant even in the company of others if that makes any sense. In part two I always got a sad lonely feeling off of her. You know what the best thing for Saya would have been? If they could have just left her alone with her family. She got so messed up and one point she did not want humans to touch her