More reasons to become a christian

[PervertedMonkey]

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
-Ann Coulter

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
-Ann Coulter

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
-Bailey Smith

"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."
-Beverly LaHaye

"Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"
-Bob Dornan

"There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."
-David Barto

"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. – Unless there is life there can be no murder."
-David Trosch

"A good butt-whipping and then a prayer is a wonderful remedy."
-Fob James

"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."
-Fred Phelps

"Hear the word of the LORD, America, f*g-enablers are worse than the f*gs themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"
-Fred Phelps

"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing, anal-copulating f*gs that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"
-Fred Phelps

"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports f*gs is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."
-Fred Phelps

"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."
-Gary North

"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."
-Gary North

"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."
-George W. Bush

"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."
-Henry Morris

"We had lost the fight for the preservation of the white race until God himself intervened in earthly affairs with AIDS to rescue and preserve the white race that he had created.... I praise God all the time for AIDS."
-J. B. Stoner

"AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and N*ggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the queers. I guess God hates queers for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against queers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a queer into becoming a queer, means his white bloodline has run out."
-J. B. Stoner

"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ."
-James Kennedy

"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."
-James Watt

"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."
-Jay Grimstead

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."
-Jerry Falwell

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."
-Jerry Falwell

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
-Jerry Falwell

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
-Jerry Falwell

"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."
-Jesse Helms

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-George Bush Sr.

"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."
-Gary Bauer

"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
-George W. Bush

"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."
-George W. Bush

And my favourite...

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
-George W. Bush


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[Dark Schneider]

All I can is damn it's a good day to be an atheist.:blink

[Core]

I wouldn't weight these peoples opinions to heavily, most of them have multiple dumbass quotes, and well, Bush is in there too.

[Rook]

Wow, good job. You just succeeded in bashing Christianity because of a few things some idiots said that does not concur with the Scriptures or they are not showing a Christ-like attitude. I hope you feel better about yourself.

[earthshine]

christians make up mosst of the u.s, so its natural people like this poster are always tryin to demonise them. if it where muslims, this thread would be bout them, same with all the other religions. almost all those people are morons who take themselvs too seriously, and should be ignored, and deff not taken as the avarage christian

[tntrag-sniffs]

eh.. you know its just...just.. wow. I mean just reading all that rhetoric
makes me glad i dont believe in any religion. To read that and agree with it.. I'd just like to know what that person is thinking.

[Mousowi]

As soon as I saw Ann coulter I had and an idea of what to expect (she's a little :nuts). But seriously these people are a little you know not quite there. And all religions and groups (including atheist and deists) have their whackos. So I have to say it's a little unfair to judge the entire religion based on these peoples stupid comments.

[Dionysus]

Yeah. There are idiots representing many religions. You could find some lovely quotations made by prominent muslims. Hell, even some radical Israelis. Hindus. And on and on.

[explicitkarma]

Wow, what a funny collection of quotes. Too bad they are nowhere near the mainstream beliefs of Christianity.

I'm sorry if the idiocy of a few turns you off of the whole religion.




But for the humor of it, I want to buy a shirt with one of those Ann Coulter quotes on due to their sheer idiocy. It makes me rofl hard.

[ANBU87]

funny thing is. they probably weren't even christian. anyways, i'm christian. slightly, but barely offended(by the quotes), but also amused ^^;

[mike_william]

"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. – Unless there is life there can be no murder."
-David Trosch"

I guess he doesn't like teh buttseckz.

[Shunsui]

How do people like you live in this world?

Seriously, enter this CENTURY, for fuck's sake.

[angtu]

It's like saying all Asians are tall by looking at just Yao Ming...

but I have to say some of these quotes you guys should pay some attention to. USA is a Christianity based country. The Constitution of Independent is wrote in comparison of Bible, and the first Americans are Christians. The fact is right now people are trying to cover up that fact, and people refuse to accept them. Nowadays text book are skipping these things. And intelligent design is not allow to be in a text book while evolution is been taught at every school. You can have a arrow pointing to the direction of mecca in school but you can't bring a Bible. whatever happen to keeping education and religion separate? Face it. Treating Every religion equally is a joke. And Christianity is the one being attacked, not the one attacking.

[Robo-Pope]

I love extremist morons. They're such a refreshing break from reality.

[PervertedMonkey]

How do people like you live in this world?

Seriously, enter this CENTURY, for fuck's sake.

It was a humor post... sheesh :S

[KK]

It was a humor post... sheesh :S

NN's a bit off today; don't mind him. Very facetious post. :tem

[Stormnova]

Fred Phelps is freaking physco and should of been locked up along time, anyone who protests at a funeral is a serious jack ass. Alot of these quotes are amusing for their sheer craziness. I'm an Aethesit and I would no way judge christianity or christians on behalf of a few wacko's, I may judge individuals though who agree with some of these quotes.

[ruffgoat]

Im proud to be a christian. You feel free to sit and criticize but you havent been in situations where you needed something to hang on to and the only thing there was was faith.
Trust me, I lived in the Lebanese civil war. Christians were being killed just for being christian and not fighters, men, women, children. When you heard the chants of "Allahu akbar" it would make you so scared you wanted to cry. I was just a child then but at that age my eyes were opened and my faith helped me pass through the tough times. Many of my family were killed. Even priests were killed, some people would have their limbs tied to four cars and then the cars would drive so their limbs would be pulled off. They would cut off peoples genitals and shove them in their mouths before they would kill them. These are eye opening experiences. Try living in a bomb bunker for 4 years of your life.
This experience made me grow closer to my faith and it did the same to almost all christians in lebanon. When living here its sad to see how people are indifferent of their religion but they dont understand what it is to suffer and be saved by faith.
And secondly, the quotes you listed are all political and have no religious authority. What do you want me to dig up every single al qaeda comment? Or how about hezbollah manifesto on how they want to convert every single christian in lebanon.

[Robo-Pope]

Im proud to be a christian. You feel free to sit and criticize but you havent been in situations where you needed something to hang on to and the only thing there was was faith.
Trust me, I lived in the Lebanese civil war. Christians were being killed just for being christian and not fighters, men, women, children. When you heard the chants of "Allahu akbar" it would make you so scared you wanted to cry. I was just a child then but at that age my eyes were opened and my faith helped me pass through the tough times. Many of my family were killed. Even priests were killed, some people would have their limbs tied to four cars and then the cars would drive so their limbs would be pulled off. They would cut off peoples genitals and shove them in their mouths before they would kill them. These are eye opening experiences. Try living in a bomb bunker for 4 years of your life.
This experience made me grow closer to my faith and it did the same to almost all christians in lebanon. When living here its sad to see how people are indifferent of their religion but they dont understand what it is to suffer and be saved by faith.
And secondly, the quotes you listed are all political and have no religious authority. What do you want me to dig up every single al qaeda comment? Or how about hezbollah manifesto on how they want to convert every single christian in lebanon.
Might I suggest you're being a tad too serious about a humor thread?

[Lord Yu]

Thank God I'm an Atheist.

[lekki]

Bash Christians all you want.
I'm a Christian and I don't subscribe to their train of thought.
It's also a hell of a lot easier to find dumbass quotes by the majority than it is to find some by the minority.

Other religious leaders have equally bad views on life, not just some Christian leaders.

Christianity is getting flak because in this era of civilization, the West is in power and Christianity is the dominant religion in the west. Don't worry, when that changes, you can hate on a different religion okay?:)

[Mizura]

Trust me, I lived in the Lebanese civil war. Christians were being killed just for being christian and not fighters, men, women, children.
You know, historically, Christians have done just about the same for other religions. *points at Inquisition*

I wouldn't judge at christianity as a whole just because of a few wackos. As pointed out, there are wackos in every religion. :amuse But it does show the stupidity of extremism well.

While we're at it, I hope people realize that while people are blaming the original poster for judging the whole just by a few wackos, a lot of people are judging Other religions as a whole just by a few wackos as well.

Hello? Not all muslims are terrorists. I've had muslim friends. They were among the nicest, mildest and sweetest people I've ever met, and they're quite disturbed by the extremists as well. It's wrong to assume things about the religion as a whole because of a few wackos.

[HyugaHinata]

Im proud to be a christian. You feel free to sit and criticize but you havent been in situations where you needed something to hang on to and the only thing there was was faith.
Trust me, I lived in the Lebanese civil war. Christians were being killed just for being christian and not fighters, men, women, children. When you heard the chants of "Allahu akbar" it would make you so scared you wanted to cry. I was just a child then but at that age my eyes were opened and my faith helped me pass through the tough times. Many of my family were killed. Even priests were killed, some people would have their limbs tied to four cars and then the cars would drive so their limbs would be pulled off. They would cut off peoples genitals and shove them in their mouths before they would kill them. These are eye opening experiences. Try living in a bomb bunker for 4 years of your life.
This experience made me grow closer to my faith and it did the same to almost all christians in lebanon. When living here its sad to see how people are indifferent of their religion but they dont understand what it is to suffer and be saved by faith.
And secondly, the quotes you listed are all political and have no religious authority. What do you want me to dig up every single al qaeda comment? Or how about hezbollah manifesto on how they want to convert every single christian in lebanon.

I agree with Vash's comment - just relax - it's a humour thread. However, the people mentioned really did say those thing.

In addition to that, how is the behaviour of fundamentalist Muslims any different from the behaviour of fundamentalist Catholics and inquisitors during the dark ages?

[MartialHorror]

People blame Religion on people who abuse it.

Religion is pure.

Humanity is not.

If people blame Christians of present day for the crusades(which many do...), Muslims for being terrorists, ect,

then white people should be blamed for slavery. and so on,

[Robo-Pope]

People blame Religion on people who abuse it.

Religion is pure.

Humanity is not.

If people blame Christians of present day for the crusades(which many do...), Muslims for being terrorists, ect,

then white people should be blamed for slavery. and so on,
Religion is good. Organized religion is bad.

[Sabaku no Ira]

ARGH!!! YOU FORGOT POPE INNOCENT!!! YOU FORGOT THE INQUISITION!!!

:P

:laugh :laugh

[Dionysus]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[Chamcham Trigger]

People blame Religion on people who abuse it.

Religion is pure.


Humanity is not.


Good point
Religion is good. Organized religion is bad.\
another good point.
I agree with Vash's comment - just relax - it's a humour thread. However, the people mentioned really did say those thing.

In addition to that, how is the behaviour of fundamentalist Muslims any different from the behaviour of fundamentalist Catholics and inquisitors during the dark ages?
The point that puts everything into perspective.

All I really have to say myself (besides commenting on someone else's quotes as if my viewpoint on it mattered) is that though this is all a big joke, there must be some reason for this to be posted on here, and I'm guessing to see what people think on it is that reason. It was obviously a sarcastic remark, but I think it would be good to comment on the harms that organized (completly ripped off from Vash :laugh) and extremist (and even elitist) religion can do to us as not only a society but as a species as a whole since christianity is not the only religion guilty of this form of behavior.

[Sabaku no Ira]

The real problem behind many religion is that a lot of so-called "religious" people use their own measuring stick on other people and labelling them "evil" in order to satisfy their ego. On top of that they don't even use that measuring stick on themselves, which means that they are "trying to take out the sprinter out of other people's eyes while there's a log inside their own".

[earthshine]

Thank God I'm an Atheist.

u do relise how much of a contradictory statment u just made there, right?

[Sabaku no Ira]

I thought that this is a joke thread? :P

[Chamcham Trigger]

I thought that this is a joke thread? :P
It is, but there is truth in jest. Plus the joke did bring up issues that are a very serious probloem in the world to this day :).

[Sabaku no Ira]

Yeah, hence I didn't spam this thread entirely. :D

[Robo-Pope]

u do relise how much of a contradictory statment u just made there, right?
u [sic] do relise [sic] how incredibly obvious it was that it was completely intentional, right?

[earthshine]

u [sic] do relise [sic] how incredibly obvious it was that it was completely intentional, right?

yes, but i was bored, and could not think of anything useful to say, so:xp

bow to my foolishness!!

[ruffgoat]

You know, historically, Christians have done just about the same for other religions. *points at Inquisition*

I wouldn't judge at christianity as a whole just because of a few wackos. As pointed out, there are wackos in every religion. :amuse But it does show the stupidity of extremism well.

While we're at it, I hope people realize that while people are blaming the original poster for judging the whole just by a few wackos, a lot of people are judging Other religions as a whole just by a few wackos as well.

Hello? Not all muslims are terrorists. I've had muslim friends. They were among the nicest, mildest and sweetest people I've ever met, and they're quite disturbed by the extremists as well. It's wrong to assume things about the religion as a whole because of a few wackos.

I never said all muslims are terrorists, i was just stating that in that situation the attacks were coming from muslims (from many different countries, namely syrian, palestinian, lebanese). I myself have tons of muslim friends.
And I didnt bother to read other posts in the thread to realize it was a humor thread, i read the first post and decided to reply.

[ruffgoat]

I agree with Vash's comment - just relax - it's a humour thread. However, the people mentioned really did say those thing.

In addition to that, how is the behaviour of fundamentalist Muslims any different from the behaviour of fundamentalist Catholics and inquisitors during the dark ages?
What does this have to do with that? I am only stating that being in situations where you are alone and there is a possibility of dying you realize that faith is indeed helpful.
And on that point anyway, the inquisition was during the dark ages as you said, this was 20 years ago. The christian church has evolved where as islam hasnt. Now I am not bashing on islam here Im just saying that Islam hasnt evolved from the radical thinking as much as the church has and it is proven by what is happening in the world as stated in my example (20 years ago) and currently(new wave of islamic terrorism hitting the world).

[Mizura]

I never said all muslims are terrorists
I wasn't talking about you. :oh

I was talking about the general tendency of people nowadays to villify just about any religion because of a few wackos. This is true for the muslims for example: moderate muslims are really nice people as far as I can tell. It's unfair to judge them because of the terrorists, just like it's unfair to judge christians because of the above-cited wackos.

Actually, this is true of all groups of people. People badmouth the French because of one wacko president whom the French don't even like, but are stuck with because of an election fluke (long story. Let's just say that because of a certain number of incidents, including the fact that the French were fed-up with Chirac, they decided to vote for the worst guy they can think of as a means of protest, hence, the sexist racist anti-Europe anti-Capitalist Le Pen. Nobody admitted it of course, so the fact went unnoticed by polls until it was too late. As a result, for Chirac vs Le Pen, they had no choice but to vote Chirac, and are thus still stuck with him. >.> )

People badmouth the US because of Bush. :oh

I guess that's the problem with moderates. You never hear anything about them.

The christian church has evolved where as islam hasnt.
Tell that to the Pope. :oh Christian mentality has evolved in the sense that most Christians have become much more casual in their applications of Church doctrines, but the Church itself still has a ways to go.

[Onijai]

Actually, in regards to a president making the whole country look bad and making assumptions based on that, considering they're supposed to represent a leader, don't you think that's natural? Naturally, you'd assume things because of what the "main citizen" of that country does and decides. People work with generalisations all the time and in this case it's especially easy to because they hold responsibility for their country.

Although I think dislike towards the US and France stemmed from events before the reign of the current presidents - the world wars, anyone?

[Dionysus]

Actually, in regards to a president making the whole country look bad and making assumptions based on that, considering they're supposed to represent a leader, don't you think that's natural? Naturally, you'd assume things because of what the "main citizen" of that country does and decides. People work with generalisations all the time and in this case it's especially easy to because they hold responsibility for their country.

Although I think dislike towards the US and France stemmed from events before the reign of the current presidents - the world wars, anyone?
So, when the US president calls for schools to teach Intelligent Design (however casually) this means it's fair to say Americans support the proposal? How about abortion? You could make the argument that since they voted him in, then it does represent the will of the people. It's a little specious, since much of a US president's policies aren't revealed before they are elected, and change anyway (from, say, terror attacks and the like). It should be natural to say it represents the will of the administration, but it is hardly fair to generalise the president's actions as the true intentions of 300+ million people.

It's easy to do so, but hardly true or helpful.

Who dislikes the US or the France for the two world wars? Or do you mean animosity between the two? Most of it is actually benign. Like between the UK and France, what with all the warring. Those in the US and France who got pissed and whatnot over the current Iraq war would have found other things to call the other if "cheese-eating surrender-monkeys" wasn't remotely a viable pejorative. :P

[BaD_MoON]

atheism all the way...

[Danny Lilithborne]

It's convenient to quote radicals to justify your lack of belief in God. That's all I have to say.

[sageman]

It's like saying all Asians are tall by looking at just Yao Ming...

but I have to say some of these quotes you guys should pay some attention to. USA is a Christianity based country. The Constitution of Independent is wrote in comparison of Bible, and the first Americans are Christians. The fact is right now people are trying to cover up that fact, and people refuse to accept them. Nowadays text book are skipping these things. And intelligent design is not allow to be in a text book while evolution is been taught at every school. You can have a arrow pointing to the direction of mecca in school but you can't bring a Bible. whatever happen to keeping education and religion separate? Face it. Treating Every religion equally is a joke. And Christianity is the one being attacked, not the one attacking.

What the hell is the Constitution of Independent? Yes, Intelligent Design should not be taught in schools, because it is not a theory. A theory is something that can be tested with scientific methods; you can't test ID, hence it is *not* a theory, no matter how many (ill-informed/non-scientific) people claim it is. Evolution is a theory and it should be taught as such (this is what is believed happened). I think it is ridiculous that you can't bring a Bible in school, though. But you shouldn't teach from the Bible.

Christianity is being attacked? Hardly. A couple of case examples from some very liberal states (I'm looking at you California), but on the majority it is flourishing fine and dandy.

It's convenient to quote radicals to justify your lack of belief in God. That's all I have to say.

If a belief system is really based on such fragile notions, it's just following the leader. I think the point of the quotes really is to show the stupidity that is extremism.

[Danny Lilithborne]

If a belief system is really based on such fragile notions, it's just following the leader. I think the point of the quotes really is to show the stupidity that is extremism.

Extremism is really nothing more than a response to the state of the world today. It's easier to blame and hate other people for the problems the world faces, than to own up to our direct responsibilities to solve these problems.

[semperfi]

Extremism is really nothing more than a response to the state of the world today. It's easier to blame and hate other people for the problems the world faces, than to own up to our direct responsibilities to solve these problems.
these problems will never be solved.

[Mizura]

Actually, in regards to a president making the whole country look bad and making assumptions based on that, considering they're supposed to represent a leader, don't you think that's natural?
Of course not. As has been pointed out, the leader doesn't necessarily always represent the will of the people. "England" supported the war in Iraq when the overwhelming majority of English people opposed it, yet somehow English people are thus great people and the French are thus surrender-monkeys.

The sad truth about politics is that you never truly get to elect someone you truly find representative. Why? Because even before the candidates appear before you, there are a whole bunch of selection mechanisms that means that you only get to select from a small group of people that Others have selected beforehand. In the US for example, you can forget about any candidates that don't have the approval of a good number of influential lobbies or big businesses: otherwise, they'd not have the money to make themselves heard in the first place. Big oils vs Big pharmaceuticals: sounds familiar?

And I remember the 2000 elections in the US... I read an opinion poll on why a person voted for this or that candidate. Result? "Because he's not [insert opposition]." It's the same in France: they voted Chirac again because the opposition was worse. It's no longer about being "representative", just "not extremely un-representative..."

[Danny Lilithborne]

these problems will never be solved.Again, this attitude is very convenient.

[sadated_peon]

Wow, good job. You just succeeded in bashing Christianity because of a few things some idiots
almost all those people are morons who take themselvs too seriously, and should be ignored, and deff not taken as the avarage Christian
And all religions and groups (including atheist and deists) have their whackos. So I have to say it's a little unfair to judge the entire religion based on these peoples stupid comments.
Yeah. There are idiots representing many religions.
funny thing is. they probably weren't even christian.
I love extremist morons.
on behalf of a few wacko's,
I find it funny how many people consider these people wacko, extremist, idiots, out of the mainstream.

Now I am not saying that these people represent Christianity, or that if you are Christian you believe this, but most of these people are not extremists.

That people are calling two presidents of the United States member’s part of a small extremist group of Christians seems silly to me. So whether or not you agree with what these people say, they are not a small minority.

Here is a list of who these people represent.

Ann Coulter
- A bestseller of each of her 4 books, time magazine expose on her representation of the right, as well as her continuing appearance of new outlets (mainly fox)

Bailey Smith
- president of the southern Baptist convention 42,000 churches, and president of Oklahoma Baptist convention 1688 churches.

Beverly LaHaye
- head of the U.S. largest public policy women's organization.

Bob Dornan
- house of representatives republican, in California.

David Barton
-Head of the wallbuilders an affiliate of the republican party.

Fob James
-governor of Alabama

Gary Bauer
- Was under secretary of education and domestic policy advisor for Reagan, and ran for Republican Party nomination for president.

George W. Bush
- president.

Henry Morris
- leader of the creationist science movement, and one of the founders of answersingenesis.com (go the most quoted source from the creationist side of the creationist debate in this very forum)

James Watt
- during the Reagan administration he was secretary of the interior.

Jerry Falwell
- Huge support from Republican Party, during his many lawsuits. Most notably hustler case.

Jesse Helms
- republican senator from NC.

George Bush Sr.
- ex president.

but I have to say some of these quotes you guys should pay some attention to. USA is a Christianity based country. The Constitution of Independent is wrote in comparison of Bible, and the first Americans are Christians. The fact is right now people are trying to cover up that fact, and people refuse to accept them.
actually no, the U.S. was not based off Christianity, that is a myth that is propagated by Christian groups. Here is a great quote from the treaty of Tripoli it was signed during Jefferson’s presidency and was ratified by congress.
“the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;”

and what is the constitution of independent????
Nowadays text book are skipping these things. And intelligent design is not allow to be in a text book while evolution is been taught at every school.
because evolution is a science and intelligence design isn’t.
You can have a arrow pointing to the direction of mecca in school but you can't bring a Bible. whatever happen to keeping education and religion separate? Face it. Treating Every religion equally is a joke. And Christianity is the one being attacked, not the one attacking.
you can bring a bible into school.

[Danny Lilithborne]

I like how you forgot Fred Phelps. He's the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church, who propagated the idea that God hates fags. He's funny in that annoying barking dog sense.

[shmegecki99]

it's honestly ignorant people like you that make me sick. What makes you better than any jihadist when all you want to do is make christianity the sole religion?

What about the fact that Jesus was jewish and arab? How about the fact that christianity is based on a combination of judaism and islam? and finally

how about the fact that you're a fucking retard?

my argument is over

[Shunsui]

I must apologize for my earlier post in this thread. Severe exhaustion and getting over a cold = low setting on my humor gland.

Thank you and good night.

[road_rash]

haha, lol, even though I'm christian, I always like to hear quotes like these to laugh at them (stupidity is funny). They're not really following the christian way, things like forgiveness, forgiving everyone, ect. You can't really base your views on christianity only cause of the worst people and how they talk/act, I mean, if I based that on athiests, I would cnsider anyone who's athiest to be a rapist, thief, murderer, ect. So all you people who say "Thank God I'm Athiest." Because of these quotes, it's a bit dumb :\

[sadated_peon]

I like how you forgot Fred Phelps. He's the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church, who propagated the idea that God hates fags. He's funny in that annoying barking dog sense.
I didn't forget anyone, there are some people on this list who are extremist, but the majority aren't.

as I said "most of these people are not extremists."

[Robo-Pope]

it's honestly ignorant people like you that make me sick. What makes you better than any jihadist when all you want to do is make christianity the sole religion?

What about the fact that Jesus was jewish and arab? How about the fact that christianity is based on a combination of judaism and islam? and finally

how about the fact that you're a fucking retard?

my argument is over
Thank you, Mecha's little brother.

[Oujisama]

Whats with the religion threads in ichiraku ramen. Its just asking for trouble, ive had it with religous debates, seriously. Good day to you.

[Scar]

Religion is so pointless

[Danny Lilithborne]

Religion is so pointlessThat's the point.

[Peliqua]

Religion isn't 'pointless', its very useful. Without the promise of an afterlife with God, what would people do? They'd feel very insignificant, inconsequential... which is why the possibility of an afterlife is always debated over. Afterlife is useful for making people content with themselves. Religion is not pointless.

[skunkworks]

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
-Bailey Smith

Oh snap. That one hurts.

[less]

"All terrorists are muslims"

Here's to research! :beer

[metaphysicool]

If these quotes were accurate as to Christianity, I, as a Zen Buddhist, would be on fire right now.

How about the fact that christianity is based on a combination of judaism and islam?

Islam was formed several hundred years after Christianity. In fact, it takes off right where Christianity takes off, Biblically speaking. But besides that you're right.

[Lien]

Long live religion.

[HyugaHinata]

Religion isn't 'pointless', its very useful. Without the promise of an afterlife with God, what would people do? They'd feel very insignificant, inconsequential... which is why the possibility of an afterlife is always debated over. Afterlife is useful for making people content with themselves. Religion is not pointless.

That line of thinking also leads to the Religious Right in the US (and many, but not all, Christians) ignoring global warming and so forth because they believe that Christ is returning will look after everything.

Religion may not be pointless, but organized religion has caused more harm than good. If Pope John Paul II supported the use of condoms in Africa, AIDS would not be such an epidemic there.

[Master Scorpion]

I born as a christian and I believe in Jesus Christ! I already fill in Holy Spirit since 1995...,if I get sick,I just pray to God and he will heal me....!but for these modern days where computer, electronic, and science rules the world...nobody wants to believe in God again!

[Scar]

Religion isn't 'pointless', its very useful. Without the promise of an afterlife with God, what would people do? They'd feel very insignificant, inconsequential... which is why the possibility of an afterlife is always debated over. Afterlife is useful for making people content with themselves. Religion is not pointless.

Religion may not seem pointless to you because you are blinded by your own weak minded beliefs ... seriously you do honestly believe there something outside of this mortal realm, you waste your time believeing a god that doesn't exist and in an afterlife that is not more than an enomorus lie that so many have brought

[Psyonic]

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
-Ann Coulter
]

I've lost all respect for her. She may as well rot in hell as far as I care now.

All terrorists are muslims? ALL TERRORIsts ARE MUSLIMS? This just made me :mad when i read it.

OH NOES! Lookz! there's a terrorist! He must be teh Muslim one cuz seh said s0. LAWLERZ.
^ That is what is going to be going in the mind of her fans.

What happend to the bombing in Ohio. Was he a follower of Islam? He was Christian. And because this isn't the thread. I'll leave it as that.

One more thing: Allah akbar

*leaves thread.*

[earthshine]

Religion may not seem pointless to you because you are blinded by your own weak minded beliefs ... seriously you do honestly believe there something outside of this mortal realm, you waste your time believeing a god that doesn't exist and in an afterlife that is not more than an enomorus lie that so many have brought

ounce again, civility escapes you, just like in the where does the soul go thread. as a medical proffesional, i advise you to take the tree size stick out of your ass and be civil, as my cat hungers for the blood of the rude

[ThiefKing]

In any case, I got a few chuckles out of this.

Why is everyone taking this so seriously?

Crazy people are funny, that's the point of this post I believe :oh

[SeruraRenge]

All I can is damn it's a good day to be an atheist.:blink
same here. Hooray for Atheism!

I've lost all respect for her. She may as well rot in hell as far as I care now.
I never liked her anyway. She's a total right-wing bitch.

[Danny Lilithborne]

Wait a minute.

People here actually respected Ann Coulter?

[SeruraRenge]

Wait a minute.

People here actually respected Ann Coulter?
well...there must be someone who does. Otherwise, why would she bother writing a book?

[brummie]

Don't post bullshit stuff, and knock on my religion.

It's the same as if I knocked on you're ethnicity or color of your skin.

[HyugaHinata]

Don't post bullshit stuff, and knock on my religion.

It's the same as if I knocked on you're ethnicity or color of your skin.

Incorrect. Religion is a choice. You can't choose what your genes and parents give you. However, critical examination can help you choose what religion you wish to follow (or whether you want to follow one at all).

[abfluvver]

Does anyone actually take Ann Coulter seriously, anyway?
I always thought she was a bit of a running joke and just hasn't realized it yet.

[SeruraRenge]

Does anyone actually take Ann Coulter seriously, anyway?
I always thought she was a bit of a running joke and just hasn't realized it yet.
I'm sure she will, once she leaves the little fantasy land of her mind.

[HyugaHinata]

I'm sure she will, once she leaves the little fantasy land of her mind.

And as soon as she stops getting sponsored by right wing extremists (which is unlikely to ever happen).

[SeruraRenge]

And as soon as she stops getting sponsored by right wing extremists (which is unlikely to ever happen).
It can happen....so long as the Democrats win the next election, put in a bunch of Left-wing Judges after the old ones are gone, re-take the Senate, and make the #1 biased news show in America be The Nation, replacing Fox News. Let's see, all that happening at once shoudl take....somewhere in the neighborhood of 180 years (I wish I were kidding).

[HyugaHinata]

It can happen....so long as the Democrats win the next election, put in a bunch of Left-wing Judges after the old ones are gone, re-take the Senate, and make the #1 biased news show in America be The Nation, replacing Fox News. Let's see, all that happening at once shoudl take....somewhere in the neighborhood of 180 years (I wish I were kidding).

Maybe not. The younger generation in the US is more tolerant than adults. They are much more accepting of gays than they were in the past.

Source - http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/04/224542.php

All that needs to be done now is to impregnate some men. :glomp :cool: :barf :toliet

[Sabaku no Ira]

Like Arnold from Junior? :P

Don't post bullshit stuff, and knock on my religion.

It's the same as if I knocked on you're ethnicity or color of your skin.

If every Christian in the world just simply do their job and do the right thing (read the Bible, for example) then there won't be anything to knock on. Seriously, do you seriously think that those so called right-winged Christians are upholding "Love your neighbour as you love yourself" or "Love your enemies"?

[Nemesis]

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
-Ann Coulter


Wait so now all the N. Ireland groups (both Christian Catholics and Protestants), ETA, Columbian groups and many others in Europe and around the world have now converted to Islam or are they not Terrorist groups anymore. There are many following all religions (Note i only mentioned christian sects in N. Ireland cause that is the main basis for their fighting now not an attack on christianity)



"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
-George W. Bush


Uhh just like bin Laden says god (Allah) tells him to attack america. Jeez nutters on all side. I just hope that they extremists get alienated soon and the mainstream members of these religions (including athiests) can somehow sort out all this and realize we are all human and each have our own oppinions on religion and you must not force your own views on others.

[prettyboi]

no more pain. heaven

[Miss CCV]

And my favourite...

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
-George W. Bush


http://www.reandev.com/taliban/

Is he sure God told him this...or was it the little voice in his head?

...and a lot of those quotes iirked me to no end. Those Christian fanatics can be bearable but only to an extent. If they try too hard to convert people into Christianity, they need to learn how to respect the fact that these individuals have their own religions or they do not want one at all.

[NashNinja]

In the eyes of Christian extremists, I am the abomination that plauges the existence of the universe to an amount only bested by Satan, all because I'm the most tolerant person I've ever met. You could worship a jersey barrier for all I care, and you'd only have to be a good person to earn my respect. The only people I don't respect are ill willed and/or strictly closed minded people, and only for as long as they're in that zone.

People could say that it's a difficult and lifelong trial to prove your faith to who/whatever you worship, and yet choosing to accept people for who they are, and not what faith they are, is one of the easiest things I've ever done to better myself.

[Sabaku no Ira]

In the eyes of Christian extremists, I am the abomination that plauges the existence of the universe to an amount only bested by Satan, all because I'm the most tolerant person I've ever met. You could worship a jersey barrier for all I care, and you'd only have to be a good person to earn my respect. The only people I don't respect are ill willed and/or strictly closed minded people, and only for as long as they're in that zone.

If that's the case then I'll be meeting you in hells then, since I can tolerate basically anyone so long as they don't get destructive.

People could say that it's a lifelong trial to prove your faith to who/whatever you worship, and yet choosing to accept people for who they are, and not what faith they are, is one of the easiest things I've ever done to better myself.

Hence the quote on my sig. THAT's a part of the Bible that quite a number of Christians choose to ignore. I don't know why.

[PervertedMonkey]

Source - http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/04/224542.php

All that needs to be done now is to impregnate some men.

WTF ?!?! :blink

[sonnie_skies]

Coming on too heavy is the biggest mistake anyone can make. Persistence is good, but if you're too pushy it will turn everyone off. I'm a Christian but I don't broadcast it to everyone and bring it up in conversation. I don't really tell anyone unless they ask; why should this be a factor in what people think of me? Aren't my actions enough without the verbal reinforcement?

As sad as this is, "I'm a Christian" rarely seems to have good connotations anymore; you can be as nice as you want but as soon as you say this people are going to think "he's been judging me the whole time" whether you like it or not. I'd rather have someone think I wasn't a Christian than assume I was.

I think believing in God is more important than putting stock in an institution, no matter how good it is or may seem. After all, the Church isn't perfect and certainly doesn't have a perfect history. The Catholics almost put Galileo to death for his beliefs, the Lutheran movement got on its feet after a bloody revolution by the German peasants. And sometimes it doesn't even take a belief in God for a person to be good; these people do kind deeds for themselves, not to please anyone else in an attempt to kiss ass.

That said, I do believe that religious groups have a large capacity to do good. It's just they need the organization and the capital to do so. Isn't it just easier to do these actions directly? God still knows you're doing them.

[Shishou]

""Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"
-Bob Dornan"

I fell outta my chair laughing. Brilliant.

[Dilemma]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Zeuter/Ann_Coulter.jpg

[Sakura]

you will be sure that all your sins will be forgiven and God is there to protect you through your life.

[Elric]

Thank God I'm an Atheist.
Amen......

[mgrace]

All I can is damn it's a good day to be an atheist.:blink

Athiest are either were taught Christian ethics, Muslim ethics or Jewish ethics...

[rimpelcut]

They have a point only it is insignificant.

[Splintered]

It's strange, but when I talk to my other Christian friends and I ask what aggravates you most- it's other christians.

Yes, I do believe in Jesus, and the bible, and God. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything these people say. It's exactly why I don't go to church anymore. People are so in belief of their own superiority because they go to church once a week. Whatever dude, you just have your head stuck out of your ass. Stop being so judgemental on others and spread some of that "love" God always talks about.

[Sesha]

Those quotes: ?! All I'll say is...America, fuck yeah!

[Mugen X]

http://tinypic.com/juv7rq.jpg

[Paracetamol Boy]

Humans are humans. Humans make mistakes. What we/they say does not always reflect on the deity we/they believe in. So quoting them does nothing but makes you look like an impressionable idiot.

So...is that why you're not a Christian? Poor guy.

[Psyonic]

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
-Ann Coulter


:mad I hope she goes to hell. Apparently EVERYONe forgot about the Ohio bombing and in europe, oh god. Christian bombers are crazy. :oh


Allah akbar :amuse

[Bya Bya]

Christian bombers are crazy. :oh


Never heard of those, enlighten me (preferably with reliable sources) :notrust

By the way, Christianity rulez:) God Bless!

[Psyonic]

Never heard of those, enlighten me (preferably with reliable sources) :notrust

By the way, Christianity rulez:) God Bless!

You mean to say that there aren't any bombers that their religion was Christian :huh

[Bya Bya]

You mean to say that there aren't any bombers that their religion was Christian :huh
So....you haven't heard about any too, right? :/

[Nemesis]

yup there have been and still are christian bombers in this world

ETA (spian/france), IRA, Real IRA (both britain), columbian groups are all made together by mainly catholics.

UVF (britain) and a few other protestant Terrorist groups as well

November 17 in Greece is Orthodox

Just to let you know that there are christian ones as well. There are also Jewish, hindu, sikh and i think buddist as well so its never has been or never will be an islam problem its a human problem which needs the entire human race to sort out

[son_michael]

It's like saying all Asians are tall by looking at just Yao Ming...

but I have to say some of these quotes you guys should pay some attention to. USA is a Christianity based country. The Constitution of Independent is wrote in comparison of Bible, and the first Americans are Christians. The fact is right now people are trying to cover up that fact, and people refuse to accept them. Nowadays text book are skipping these things. And intelligent design is not allow to be in a text book while evolution is been taught at every school. You can have a arrow pointing to the direction of mecca in school but you can't bring a Bible. whatever happen to keeping education and religion separate? Face it. Treating Every religion equally is a joke. And Christianity is the one being attacked, not the one attacking.


wow, I'ts amazing...someone actually knows that america is based on god!! its got to be a first, america was a land our forefathers found because of god and as such they dedicated the land to god. I bet you guys dont know that the freedom of religion we have has been altered, originally the freedom of religion meant we were free to worship god any way we want, such as worship him like a pentecostal or worship him like a quiet bible thumper, we were free to worship the 1 true god any way we wanted but now thats all changed and now the freedom we have is to worship any god we want

if our forefathers could come back to life, they would probably be sick to there stomachs in what america has become because of people giving in to there fleshly wants, 1 things for sure, they would not allow homosexuality or any thing thats against the 1 true god and that includes worshiping other gods

[HyugaHinata]

wow, I'ts amazing...someone actually knows that america is based on god!!

False. Don't you even know that the constitution specifically prohibits the US government from either supporting or repressing religion?

its got to be a first, america was a land our forefathers found because of god and as such they dedicated the land to god.

No, they were deists, who rejected the idea of a personal god, and they were fleeing religious persecution from King George (hmm... sounds familiar).

I bet you guys dont know that the freedom of religion we have has been altered, originally the freedom of religion meant we were free to worship god any way we want, such as worship him like a pentecostal or worship him like a quiet bible thumper, we were free to worship the 1 true god any way we wanted but now thats all changed and now the freedom we have is to worship any god we want

And what's wrong with this? Would you like to be forced to worship Allah? How about Vishnu or Buddha? In addition, where is the evidence for your god that is more valid than those for other religions?

if our forefathers could come back to life, they would probably be sick to there stomachs in what america has become because of people giving in to there fleshly wants, 1 things for sure, they would not allow homosexuality or any thing thats against the 1 true god and that includes worshiping other gods

Yeah, right. Do you have anything to offer that isn't based on ignorance and your own views of what the founding fathers wanted?

[Razgriez]

Note to all christians who took offense to this thread!

The OP did not type them himself. Elitist christians are the ones who said these things. The OP is simply pointing them out so we can all get a good laugh at the fucktards of the christian religion. ;)

Dont worry, theres athiest fucktards as well and I want to bash their faces in as much as these fucktard christians.

[Quoll]

I find it kinda funny that no one mentioned Oklahoma City w/ all this talk of terrorism.

[RogueRed2]

...and here I was waiting to be converted :/

[son_michael]

False. Don't you even know that the constitution specifically prohibits the US government from either supporting or repressing religion?

um I was talking about america when it was founded...not the constitution in modern time

No, they were deists, who rejected the idea of a personal god, and they were fleeing religious persecution from King George (hmm... sounds familiar).

no...the pilgrims all worshipped the 1 god{the god of abraham, issac and jacob} because thats what the bible told them to do, they were all following the very first bible translated into english which was originally in hebrew and translated into greek. The king didnt like the way things were going and tried to stop it, so they all left for a country where they could worship there new god without persecution



And what's wrong with this? Would you like to be forced to worship Allah? How about Vishnu or Buddha? In addition, where is the evidence for your god that is more valid than those for other religions?

I dunno what your problem is....I am merley stating fact in history, not trying to prove that my god is more valid



Yeah, right. Do you have anything to offer that isn't based on ignorance and your own views of what the founding fathers wanted?


the anger is strong with you

first of all, you need to get your facts straight, go and do some research, as ive said before, the pilgrims fled because they wanted to worship the 1 god, george washington was a man of god, lincoln was a man of god, and many other men who built the constitutions were men of god and it was there intention to make america a land where you could be free to worship god, not any god you want, do you know how many things of god were REMOVED from american buildings? or how much biblical doctrine has been removed from the goverment?



if you dont like this, GET OVER IT! this is history, its fact! and dont tell me anything until you research it for yourself


cause ive read history books and I know the truth, your just in denial that america was meant to be a land for god

and I really dont appreciate your attitude, I was just stating fact, not being ignorant and whatever else you think

and another thing... I dont want to make an enemy on these boards so just calm down and realise I wasnt trying to force views on anybody, just stating fact that I read in history books

you got me preety angry accusing me of putting my own views into history but I dont like being angry so lets calm down{you and me both}

[HyugaHinata]

um I was talking about america when it was founded...not the constitution in modern time

And you're still wrong. Nowhere in the constitution (original or otherwise) are people being forced to believe a certain way.

no...the pilgrims all worshipped the 1 god{the god of abraham, issac and jacob} because thats what the bible told them to do, they were all following the very first bible translated into english which was originally in hebrew and translated into greek. The king didnt like the way things were going and tried to stop it, so they all left for a country where they could worship there new god without persecution

Evidence for this 'fact'? The people in England also worshipped the Christian god, so I have no idea where you're getting this from.

I dunno what your problem is....I am merley stating fact in history, not trying to prove that my god is more valid

My problem is that you are lying, and claiming that it's the truth.

the anger is strong with you

first of all, you need to get your facts straight, go and do some research, as ive said before, the pilgrims fled because they wanted to worship the 1 god, george washington was a man of god, lincoln was a man of god, and many other men who built the constitutions were men of god and it was there intention to make america a land where you could be free to worship god, not any god you want, do you know how many things of god were REMOVED from american buildings? or how much biblical doctrine has been removed from the goverment?

Do you know how much religion was ADDED to public places, in direct violation of the constitution? "In God We Trust" was added to the US currency long after the Declaration of Independence was written.

if you dont like this, GET OVER IT! this is history, its fact! and dont tell me anything until you research it for yourself

LOL, take your own advice. Didn't your Jesus say something about the plank in one's own eye?

cause ive read history books and I know the truth, your just in denial that america was meant to be a land for god

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and I really dont appreciate your attitude, I was just stating fact, not being ignorant and whatever else you think

Well, you failed miserably in the factual department, sorry.

and another thing... I dont want to make an enemy on these boards so just calm down and realise I wasnt trying to force views on anybody, just stating fact that I read in history books

Zzzzzzzzz... you're repeating yourself.

you got me preety angry accusing me of putting my own views into history but I dont like being angry so lets calm down{you and me both}

You first.

[son_michael]

again you call me a liar and insult me, you are not a nice person and there is no point in talking to you anymore