The Official Yondaime is Naruto's Father Thread

[Bouncer]

hey have you ever thought that Yondaime was Naruto's Father? I mean they DO LOOK ALIKE!!!!

[0753940]

uhm, do you really think you're the only one that think this and makes a thread about it?

I personally don't think yondaime is naruto's father, everybody would have told him or regarded him as the 4th's son or something similar.. especially a person like Jiraiya

[Bouncer]

yeah, but what if he kept it a secret before he died?Maybe he knew that Naruto not having a father would make him stronger? Or he could have told only the 3rd Hokage and told him not to tell until the time is right or something like that?

[organizedcrime]

I really wanna neg rep you for this, but it's on bad grounds, so I won't.

[Bouncer]

okay.....i see your point oh yeah i have an annocement! ITACHI WAS BEATEN BY NARAKU AND HAKU WAS KILLED BY SUB-ZERO! (leaves)

[kapsi]

So what about the gourd? Suspicious?

[Kunoichie]

what gourd?

[Mateus.]

D00d, Did u also know that this thread has been made like a Kizillion times? =D

[Katara]

Sounds like something Aoba would say...

[Shadow]

NO WAY!!! YOU THOUGHT OF THAT TOO DUDE??!?!?!? FARKING AWESOME!! I THOUGHT OF THAT TOO!!!! Like 1900 posts ago!! But hey its ok........you'll catch up-(bastard)

[Astranagun]

no no...you got it all wrong. Naruto is actually Yondaime's son.

[Kunoichie]

i think that yondaime might have a chance of being Naruto's father. I saw this signature that had this little story of yondaime being Naruto's father on it. it was so touching

[KyuubiRamen]

I'm a blind believer of that! I had that idea, too you guys (About the Yondaime keeping it a secrete for Naruto's strength) But in one of my (Extremely many) theories, it was that Yondaime had erm...made love to this woman after giving birth to Naruto, Yondaime had discovered it was his son, in return for his sin, he gave his life and made his son which he had never supposed to have a hero. >.> Allot of people don't like that one but It could be true right? I mean, why would Yondaime pick Naruto out of so many others?

[Marysmary]

There are many many different threads on this...=_=

I don't believe this theory..It's so..simple..

[Astranagun]

too simple if you ask me

[9Tail-Hokage]

uhm, do you really think you're the only one that think this and makes a thread about it?

I personally don't think yondaime is naruto's father, everybody would have told him or regarded him as the 4th's son or something similar.. especially a person like Jiraiya
You say this when, for the first 12 years of his life, the ENTIRE VILLAGE kept the fact from Naruto that he had the most powerful Bijuu sealed in his body. I'd call that a ginormous(yeah, I combined enormous and giant together, big whoop, wanna fight about it?) secret to keep from Naruto. If they were to keep something like that from Naruto, then I think it's very, very likely that they would keep the fact that Yondaime is Naruto's father from him. Hell, they haven't even told Naruto that it was Yondaime Hokage himself that sealed that Demon Fox into Naruto in the first place.

With that said, I think that if and when Naruto finds out about this mystery, he'll be pissed at a lot of people.

[Ruri]

So what about the gourd? Suspicious?

That's such a classic :rofl

On topic: great theory!

[missq]

He knew the Yondaime did it, because the entire village knew that he killed the kyuubi. Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't thing that yondaime is the father. Sure he could be a distant relation, like an uncle, but not the father.

Why would they keep it from him? it's like Konohamaru, if the 4th was really his father people would see him differently.

[Astranagun]

they do see him differently...as the kyuubi

[missq]

I know, but people like Sandaime, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Ikura, and people who don't see him as the kyuubi.

[sakura1116]

Well... Naruto and Yondaime do look almost similar... especially the yellow hair... But I m not sure what's their true relationship... but the theory of Yondaime being Naruto's father might be true somehow...

[icoselitham]

there are like a hundred of these threads. use the search button

[Chiru]

Sounds like something Aoba would say...

lol :laugh True. True.

[9Tail-Hokage]

He knew the Yondaime did it, because the entire village knew that he killed the kyuubi.
No, he doesn't know that Yondaime did it. Seal Kyuubi in him, that is. No evidence points to that. He only knows that he defeated it, protecting the village while doing it. 2, Yondaime didn't kill Kyuubi, just defeated him. You clearly see Kyuubi alive and well, only he's sealed in a body of a 15.5 year old.

Am I the only person on the face of the earth who doesn't thing that yondaime is the father. Sure he could be a distant relation, like an uncle, but not the father.
No, if they are to be related, it would be father and son. Yondaime's died around the same time Naruto was born, plus, they look so much alike. In part 2, Naruto's hair grows to look even more like Yondaime. I won't say much more due to spoilers.

Why would they keep it from him?
Could be for multiple reasons that I can think of.
it's like Konohamaru, if the 4th was really his father people would see him differently.
eh, Not really. Unlike Naruto, Konohamaru doesn't have the most powerful bijuu, that threatened to destroy the village, sealed in him. Also, Yondaime's dying wish was for Naruto to be seen as a hero for defeating Kyuubi. That didn't go as he planned back then, did it? Also, that sounds like a worried father wanting his son to be accepted. Which he wasn't, for the first 12 years of his life.

I know, but people like Sandaime, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Ikura, and people who don't see him as the kyuubi.
Iruka saw him as Kyuubi until he realized how badly he'd been treating Naruto. Tsunade? Not now, but I believe when she first saw him, she said, "hey, it's that Nine-Tails kid". Sandaime didn't see him as Kyuubi because Yondaime didn't want him to.

Jiraiya's perverted mind is too far in the gutter to be thinking about such troublesome things as demon foxes.:)
there are like a hundred of these threads. use the search button
Yeah, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked, yet.

[dbzhung]

i beleive that yondaime is naruto's father. naruto looks just like him, also he choose naruto to be the kyubi's container so he could be known as a hero because he knew he was going to die and he was not going to be there for naruto. so yondiame wanted the village to treat him as a hero and raise naruto into an excellent ninja since he will have no parents. but they did the opposite.

[Lord Itachi]

I think it is naruto's father. They both look the same. And who else would the 4th pick to put the Kyuubi in? not a random person. But ask the Frog... he should know haha.

[kluminaliti]

I had a post on this which have some good point in it...

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=60887

[Kickmeister]

You say this when, for the first 12 years of his life, the ENTIRE VILLAGE kept the fact from Naruto that he had the most powerful Bijuu sealed in his body. I'd call that a ginormous(yeah, I combined enormous and giant together, big whoop, wanna fight about it?)

"I'd call that a ginormous(yeah, I combined enormous and giant together, big whoop, wanna fight about it?)

OMG! That's the golfguy from Family Guy right? So hilarious (sorry, maybe it's just me! :smile-big)

[AZIZ_FROST]

if this is done feel free to delete it

i think that naruto is related to yondaime because maybe kishi is doing a chain here

sarutobi>>jiraiya>>yondaime>>kakashi>>naruto>>konohamaru

sarutobi related to konohamaru
jiraya (maybe) related to kakashi
yondaime (maybe) related to naruto

i didn't say yondaime is the father of naruto...maybe just related

or maybe the hair color is related...O_o

[Spy_Smasher]

Honest to God, please go away.

I logged in just to say that.

[Eruravenne]

Ok... I just have to say... you can't base a theory on two people being related on just their hair. If everyone with the same hair color was related to each other... that would just be scary.

This would be the families of Naruto (basically):
Tsunade, Yondaime, Naruto, Ino, Ino's dad, Temari, etc would be the Blond Family.
Nidaime, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Kakashi's dad, Kabuto, Hidan, etc would be the White-hair Family
Sasori? (not sure of his actual hair color), Chouji, Chouji's dad, Gaara, Sakura, Akatsuki Leader, etc would be the Redhead Family (or close to red)
And WAY too many people to list would be in the Brown-hair and Black-hair Families.

See how messed up that is?
(The etcs were cause I couldn't think of anymore people in those hair groups, but there may be more.)

[Goodfellow]

Hahah, this post is priceless!

[SeishiroSakura]

if this is done feel free to delete it

I wish i could...

[waado]

Hahah, this post is priceless!

I agree lol

[♠Mr.Nibbles♠]

lol, I related to everyone in the world with black hair cause I have black hair

lol lol lol lol

[Hiiro]

lolololololol my balls have blonde spikey hair I am Naruto's father lololololololololololololol!1!!1!!

[dummy plug]

is dat really true? its positive dat the 4th is a relative of naruto...dats for sure...

[Dr. Obvious]

Great theory!

[dummy plug]

if the fourth was naruto's dad, den yondaime was too young wen he got his wife pregnant! maybe naruto's a luvchild...

[clouded_fate]

The logic in this thread could also be used to say all asians are related to Bruce Lee(As awesome as that would be, it's not true *audience gasping*)

[dummy plug]

^^^ huh? why bruce lee?

[JyUuKeN369]

Well seing as how Kakashi was 26 in the beginning of Naruto and he became Jounin at 13/14 then Kakashi Gaiden would have taken place 12-13 years ago meaning that Naruto would have been born already...or would be born soon.

My crazy theory: Muahahaha crazy...I say that Yondaime is Naruto...but he used another ability of the death god and put Obito's soul into his body...I dunno...I just thought it was wierd that Naruto and Obito look/act too similar...but theres my crazy theory!

[Leanne]

I truly believe he is naruto's father. Why would he seal the fox in someone elses baby he doesn't even know? That's crwl. Also they sure look alike and Naruto's parents got killed that day.. so it could be that they meant Yondaime. Also why else couldn't they just show us his parents? They want t keep it a secret, so they could use it later. I wonder who the mother would be though.
Yes, Obito and naruto look the same.. but isn't that with more people? :amuse

[dummy plug]

^^ ya..they blurred dat topic...dey ddnt explain dat event clearly either...i guess it was meant to be so dat the creator can make a really interestin ending...

[TakiHatake]

I think so too. The author of the series has something planned about Naruto. If that's the case and from what image from the manga I saw, something in the upcoming series is about to unfold reguardian familiar faces from the past and a certain knuckle-headed ninja! muwhahahahaha! *duhduhdunnnnnnn* :laugh

[Tyrannos]

In many anime shows, the child looks very similar to the Parents. And this is definitely true in Naruto. Look at the parents of the Rookies: Shikamaru, Ino, Chouji, Neji, Hinata, Kiba, Shino, even the parents of Sasuke looks like him. I think because of that relation, it is a very good possibility by that alone indicate the Yondaime is Naruto's father.

Then you got other hints tossed in by Kishimoto on how the Yondaime is similar to Naruto by Jiraya, and Tsunade.

Jiraya saying, "Forgive me, Fourth" before he tossed Naruto down the canyon.

Itachi refering to Naruto as "The Fourth's Legacy". And that does not necessarily mean an item or the Kyuubi. Legacy can also refer to the lineage of a family (I.E. Children).

And how the Yondaime was being protective of the Baby Naruto (told by Kishimoto in his new novel, and yes it's offical). And giving Naruto the ability to use the Kyuubi's chakra and asked people to think of him as a hero.

To me, there is too many fingers that point to the Yondaime as Naruto's real father.


BTW, the Yondaime became Hokage shortly after the Kakashi Gaiden series, because he gave command to Kakashi during the story. And Naruto was born a year into the Yondaime's reign. We don't know who Naruto's mother is of yet, but I'm sure she will be revealed when Naruto is finally told who his father was.

[♠Mr.Nibbles♠]

despite Konohamaru's actions as a spoiled brat people look the other way cause he is the Hokage grandson. If Naruto was the 4th son it would really matter if had kyuubi or not, so he is not Yondaime's son.

[Seto Kaiba]

despite Konohamaru's actions as a spoiled brat people look the other way cause he is the Hokage grandson. If Naruto was the 4th son it would really matter if had kyuubi or not, so he is not Yondaime's son.

No, since he was a jinchuriki it wouldn't matter if he was the 4th's son. Being a container of a demon and the Kyubi at that, Naruto was likely considered to be highly dangerous. Also, If Naruto is Yondaime's son that doesn't mean everyone knows. I'm thinking only a select few people actually know Naruto's true origins.

[dummy plug]

imagine if naruto was the son of the 4th...totally cool...but d 4th looks so young...dat means he got his wife pregnant really early...maybe naruto was a luvchild lol

[Tsunade]

Timeline-wise Yondaime was in his 30s when Naruto was born, so that's apropos.

Seriously though, seeing all these posts and threads mentioning Yondaime being Naruto's father, we're going to jinx it.

[Tyrannos]

No, the Yondaime was surely in his late 20s when he had Naruto. Remember, Jounins become Sensei's in their Mid-20s like we see with Kakashi, Gai, Asuma, Kurenai, and if you do the math: the same for the Sannin.


I dislike how people are saying Naruto isn't the son of the Yondaime because of how Naruto or Konohamaru acts. It isn't because of their lineage, but because of their environment.

Konohamaru was a spoiled brat that got away with things because he was the grandson of the Sandaime. If Naruto had the same life style, he would have easily been the same way, and that would have been extremely dangerous for Konoha if he discovered he was the son of the Yondaime.

Also, remember, Gaara (in Part 1) was Naruto's reflection. If Naruto found out about the Kyuubi early, he would have been extremely dangerous and perhaps could have easily sought vengance on Konoha. That is the main reason why he was not told of his heritage. But because of people like the Sandaime and Iruka, then Kakashi and Sakura (even Sasuke), Naruto ended up a great guy who cared than hated (like Gaara).

When the time is right, I'm sure Kakashi or Jiraya will finally reveal Naruto's true secret.

[Fireblade93]

But, I was checking on sites around, and when the mission from Obito died happened, it was when Kakashi and his team were 16. In the beginning he was about 26-27, so how does that add up. Unless the site I was looking at was wrong, since Naruto fan didn't have any info on the Gaiden, Naruto would be three to four when Obito died. (Please contradict me! I want Naruto to be the 4th's son! :P )
EDIT!!!!!!!

I found this is Kakashi's profile in Narutofan.
"It is known that Kakashi became a jounin 13 years ago (from where the manga currently is), at age 16." If it's 13 years ago, doesn't that make him 29, not the 27 Naruto fan lists him as? Also, I know that Naruto isn't the Hokage's father is that it says this also in Kakashi's profile: "At the time, there was great turmoil between the great countries and Konoha was deeply involved in what was to be called: The Third Secret World War." This is the time when Obito died and Kakashi got his Sharingan eye. So if Kyuubi attacked right after the mission, and even then, Naruto still wouldn't be born in time if the Kyuubi attacked right after the War. Unless the Kyuubi attacked when Kakashi was 13-14, Naruto can't be the son of the 4th Hokage.

[Joe-Bobby]

besides the blonde hair and blue eyes. gaara is supposed to be an imitation of naruto right? well gaara's dad was kage, so shouldnt narutos dad be kage also?

[starsun]

excuse me if I laugh but hahahahaha :D

[Genesis]

*posts in thread*

EDIT: Before i forget...:huh

[Rellik]

excuse me if I laugh but hahahahaha :D

It's actually not that funny naruto and gaara were obviously suppose to be analogous of each other, just different villages and different bijuus. I actually use that as one of my supports to why yondaime is naruto's pappy as well. There jin powers are even similar (well all jin powers kind of seem similar, so far.)

[Kinjishi]

Interesting perspective on the matter, but I think the Blonde hair and blue eyes is enough evidence for everyone. Wait a minute, Blonde hair blue eyes! That dont sound right if you ask me.:amazed

[CrazyMoronX]

I think you may be on to something, here.

However, I think Naruto's dad is Maito Gai. I have my good reasons. :nod

[Deeo]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/526/aaaadfhbs5.jpg



besides the blonde hair and blue eyes

Deidara is Naruto's father :omg

[monkeytoast Jitsu]

I also think it would make sense, seeing as they needed a baby to seal Kyubi in, and the 4th useing his own son for that purpose. And isn't Naruto saposed to use the nine tails protect the village and be it's hero and such?

[Harley Quinn]

besides the blonde hair and blue eyes. gaara is supposed to be an imitation of naruto right? well gaara's dad was kage, so shouldnt narutos dad be kage also?

Gaara is an imitation of Naruto? :huh Sure they have their similarities but other than that....Am I missing something here?

[DJ-Kage]

Yeah... And what do the Konoha villagers do with the son of their greatest hero, who was orphaned because his father sacraficed his life so that they could all survive? They love, respect him and try to make up for loss of his parents? No, they hate him, despise him, and pretty much kick him around.

If its true that Yondaime was Naruto's father then all the people in Konoha are ungrateful jerks. Iruka is, Sandaime was, Kakashi, Gai, Anko, Asuma, Kurenai, Ibiki, Ichariku, Genma, Aoba, Konoha random passerby #4, and anyone I might have forgotten are all ungrateful jerks who kick down the orphan son of the man who died to save them.

So who still wants Yondaime to be Naruto's dad?

[B]

This is the best theory. Liek evar.

[gotti_jason]

i dont think so but did ya notice the first ,second,3rd,fourth hokage all had daime in there name do you guys think Yondaime hokage,nidaime hokage,tsunade hokage,Sarutobi Sandaime Hokage, Shodaime Hokage

because tsunade is related to the first and second hokage so theres like a connection because all of them have daime in there name except tsunade
but they all gotta related so i think the next hoakage would be konohamru since he's realted to one of the hokage i fogot how

[SumDumGai]

This kid's a gdamn genius... :amazed

/sarcasm

[Harley Quinn]

i dont think so but did ya notice the first ,second,3rd,fourth hokage all had daime in there name do you guys think Yondaime hokage,nidaime hokage,tsunade hokage,Sarutobi Sandaime Hokage, Shodaime Hokage

because tsunade is related to the first and second hokage so theres like a connection because all of them have daime in there name except tsunade
but they all gotta related so i think the next hoakage would be konohamru since he's realted to one of the hokage i fogot how

:lmao Please tell me you are joking, Yondaime, Sandaime, ect. Mean 4th, 3rd, ect. Those aren't their real names Tsunade is the Godaime (or maybe I'm getting this confused, sorry if I am) Which means the 5th Hokage

And he was the Sandaime's grandson by the way

[Dark Saga]

Best thread evah,clap clap clap

[warrior1000]

If hair and eyes is what you are using for camparison than gai and lee are relates but they tell us in the manga that they have no family relationship. THe 4th might be related to naruto but baseing it on eyes and hair is only going to get you so far.

i dont think so but did ya notice the first ,second,3rd,fourth hokage all had daime in there name do you guys think Yondaime hokage,nidaime hokage,tsunade hokage,Sarutobi Sandaime Hokage, Shodaime Hokage

because tsunade is related to the first and second hokage so theres like a connection because all of them have daime in there name except tsunade
but they all gotta related so i think the next hoakage would be konohamru since he's realted to one of the hokage i fogot how

Daime is present in all of their hokage titles, is does not show Family ties.
nidaime meaning second, shodaime means first, and so on. Tsunade is the godaime hokage meaning fifth hokage.

[ycavan]

you got it in one. :) Tsunade would be GOdaime-Hokage.

[R3dKeyz]

Awesome theory! Finally all those "we are the same!" quots from naruto make sence!..sorta :laugh

[The Pink Ninja]

I was sold when I saw they had the same mullet.

[Shogun]

banned for a reason.

[RasenganUltimate]

That does make sense, I guess. Gaara and Naruto are like so similar. But, other possibilities that Yondaime might be Naruto's father could be: why did Yondaime choose Naruto out of all the babies to seal the kyubi in? But, we can't just assume that Yondaime is Naruto's father. We know far too little about his past.

[Shishi-O]

besides the blonde hair and blue eyes. gaara is supposed to be an imitation of naruto right? well gaara's dad was kage, so shouldnt narutos dad be kage also?look at louis's avatar. they are obviously so.

[Dark Saga]

Banned? hmmmm

[Spartan9]

Why would the entire village hate Naruto if he were the son of the hero who just saved the village?

[AznEnigma69]

Hmph......he didn't use the search button didn't he!

[superflyninjaguy]

HURRAY!! they still let retards start threads

[MarryGoRound]

Gaara is an imitation of Naruto? :huh Sure they have their similarities but other than that....Am I missing something here?

A brain perhaps ??

[Kaitlyn]

i dont think so but did ya notice the first ,second,3rd,fourth hokage all had daime in there name do you guys think Yondaime hokage,nidaime hokage,tsunade hokage,Sarutobi Sandaime Hokage, Shodaime Hokage

because tsunade is related to the first and second hokage so theres like a connection because all of them have daime in there name except tsunade
but they all gotta related so i think the next hoakage would be konohamru since he's realted to one of the hokage i fogot how


Dude....learn some Japanese...

Shodai (literally "founding")-first
Nidaime-second
Sandaime-third
Yondaime-FOURTH!!! IT'S NOT HIS FREAKIN' NAME!!!
Godaime-fifth

It is true that Tsunade, the Godaime, is related to the Shodai (her grandfather) and the Nidaime (her great-uncle)......but God forbid....It has nothing to do with those "names"....they are titles, and we don't even know their real names.....we only know the Sandaime's surname (Sarutobi), and, of course, Tsunade...:oh

I hope I cleared things up for a lot of people here:)

[uzumakinaruto215]

The author, Kishimoto, never stated about Yondaime's real name, theres alot of theories that Uzumaki Arashi is his name but never was it mentioned. I think kishi aint giving out his name because he wants people to keep speculating and reading, alot has mentioned that Naruto can surpass the Fourth like Kakashi said, that's gotta be something big because Yondaime was Kakashi's instructor at one point. Regarding the element training thing with Kakashi, I kinda figured Naruto was of the wind element, I saw hints with the Rasengan and when he blasts away object when he turns Kyuubi. I speculate that Yondaime is called yellow flash because of his hair and his speed and the wind ability, although I can't confirm, that's just my thought. Dam I should've wrote my para in the element section........

[Batninja]

If narutos father is the 3rd then that gaint frog must be his mother. Considering thats was the last time I saw both the 3rd and that gaint frog fighting 9 tail fox.

OOh its all clear now..Blond heair blue eyes, and the orange jacked for the frog.

[kuchiyoseNOjutsu]

gaara is supposed to be an imitation of naruto right? well gaara's dad was kage, so shouldnt narutos dad be kage also?

Ok so I guess we'll be seeing Naruto's big bro and big sis anytime soon :laugh

[The Fourth Hokage]

lol, logic is no obstacle for you

[naruhina26]

This thread is getting weirder

[Rattan]

Its just cliche enough to work.

[Futagokage]

Nononono

Yondaime is Naruto's son from the future, who travel in time with three missions:

Train with Naruto's Sanin teacher, and teach him Rasengan.
Train Naruto's Teacher.
Seal the Kyuubi in his father.

Is so obvious. :P

[Dark Saga]

Nononono

Yondaime is Naruto's son from the future, who travel in time with three missions:

Train with Naruto's Sanin teacher, and teach him Rasengan.
Train Naruto's Teacher.
Seal the Kyuubi in his father.

Is so obvious. :P

Agree,thats i was thinking:)

[Urarenge2005]

Hasnt this thread happened like 9 million times? there should be like an automatic thread killer if the Words Yondaime, 4th hokage, Naruto and father are in the same topic title.

Its been argued so many times and so many times it has been heavily weighed that the 4th cannot be his father. It is ok for the denile people to hope but stop trying to prove it with his goddamn hair and eyes.

IF HE WAS HIS FATHER ANYONE OVER AGE 13 WOULD HAVE MENTIONED IT BY NOW.

If it turns out the 4th really is his father than that means everyone in Konoha is a traitorous bastard. Or incredibly stupid and forgetful beyond all measure.

"It was a secret!" WHY? WHY on earth would the Saviour of a country be embbarrased that he had a SON? Cuz he tapped some Ho? and didnt want anyone to know? then if he wanted to keep it a secret why the hell would he use the kid as a Jinchuruki and tell everyone to honor him? THEN EVERYONE KICKS HIM AROUND LIKE CRAP? Dur Dur DUUUR

[DeepThought]

You answered your own question.

All the adults hated him.

no one talked to Naruto.. ever...

[The Fourth Hokage]

I don't agree that they're father and son. If that was the case then the villagers would have thought differently of him. Also, I think they look alike because he is Yondaime.

[Krzr]

Ok, i have some proof and facts backing up the whole Yondaime is Naruto's Father deal. NOW WAIT, this isn't just a "look at their hair!" thread. I have some logical reasoning to this theory.

To start off, Uzumaki means three spirals in Japanese. Konoha's symbol is an arrow with a spiral or swirl on it. Naruto's back and shoulders have spiral symbols on them. Three spirals can also mean "Rasen." As we all know Yondaime created the Rasengan which means SPIRALING sphere. A move that relates to the Uzumaki name???

The sealing technique on Naruto, ALSO a spiral. Now, this is what really set me on the whole theory. On the toad scroll, there's 4 names. One before Jiraiya, and 2 after. The fourth name is Naruto Uzumaki. But, the third... Arashi Uzumaki! We know the fourth could summon Gama, so how can you deny it? -shrug- Take a look:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5179/omfgyondiamehj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ok, in Japanese, Arashi means storm. Naruto means maelstorm. Where there's a storm there's winds or spirals. In which, Uzumaki can also mean whirlpool or hurricane/typhoon. So, it all matchers up.

I hope this thread help convinced you about Yondaime/Arashi like the scroll did for me. Please comment on how bad or well i did. By the way the scroll pic was done by Sesqoo. Don't credit me for that hehe.

[Sypher]

This has been mentioned before, the whole scroll thing. Still it's neat how you color coded it to make it easier to view.

There certainly are several connects between Yondaime and Naruto. Whether they are enough to make them father/son, well we won't know for sure until we see it.

[Thorn]

Yondi's name was Arashi?

[The_Unforgiven]

cool, I like how all the names are related to the rasengan and the swirly things on naruto's back. but i don't get the thing with the scroll

[Mikazuki no Mai]

Where is the proof that the second name is Uzumaki Arashi?? I am looking at the Kanji/kana and none are even close... Naruto's name has like 7 Symbols, and the second one is 3..

Can you post the symbols so I can translate?

[LordoftheAbyss]

if I remember correctly that "Arashi" thing was a fake...the scroll is illegible in that part.

[Iruka]

This picture has been use over and over and over again to prove that Yondaime's name is Arashi, but as far as it goes that name on the scroll is unreadable thus that doesn't really prove much of anything.

I believe that Yondaime is Naruto's father (*Owner of the FC*) but until Kishimoto said otherwise on the name issue anything is plausible. I don't take sides on the name thing so Yondaime is what I would call Yondaime.

[Bishop]

pretty gay sig doba

But as said before good idea to color code the scrolls. And thank you very much for the translation. In the end we can only wait and see what Kishi does.

[rorykage]

i don't think this is the guy who color coded the pic. i've seen this in threads before.

it's nice to see you put some real thought into this, and i agree with you that Yondaime is Naruto's father.

Frankly, i don't see how anyone could deny their relations. Seriously, i hope that when this is revealed for sure, that anyone who denied it feels very very embarassed for missing the obvious.

[B]

pretty gay sig doba

But as said before good idea to color code the scrolls. And thank you very much for the translation. In the end we can only wait and see what Kishi does.
Uh... you're nice. :oh Keep your comments to yourself.

[Bishop]

Looking at your sig I can see why you got offended.

If doba took it seriously (which Im sure she/he didn't) I apoloqize.

[YUI]

I don't really think this theory is thought out well. If everything you said is true, that would mean Naruto wrote his name on a scroll and right beside his name there would be the name Uzumaki Arashi and not notice it. Now i know Naruto isn't exactly the brightest kid around, at least not in Part I but even he would notice his own last name on a scroll.

[Krzr]

Yea I did not do the color coded picture. I posted that it was done by Sesqoo.

[Flunitrazepam]

If so, wouldn't Naruto have noticed when he signed it himself?

[General Mustang]

I am not 100% convinced, actually, i'm not even 50% convinced yet. There is still so much more to discover in this series to deside so early

[FrostXian]

But, the third... Arashi Uzumaki! We know the fourth could summon Gama, so how can you deny it? -shrug-

YOU. ARE. RETARDED. YOU. ARE. FAIL. IT SAYS "UNINTELLIGIBLE", GO LEARN JAPANESE, GO LEARN TO READ KANJI, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, GO AND HANG YOURSELF WITH BARBED WIRE.
Thank you, I had alot of stress to relieve.
And other newbies, no, Arashi is not his name. Nor is Uzumaki. What is written there is random scribbles. It can not be read.
Where is the proof that the second name is Uzumaki Arashi?? I am looking at the Kanji/kana and none are even close... Naruto's name has like 7 Symbols, and the second one is 3..
Yes, thank you! Don't try to read it. It's unintelligble, purposely written so.
if I remember correctly that "Arashi" thing was a fake...the scroll is illegible in that part.
Yes, thank you.
Yondi's name was Arashi?
No. Don't fall for this, please. We do not need more of this.
pretty gay sig doba
I'm straith as a.. straith thing, and I like that sig doba has. Very colourful and well drawn.

[Krzr]

I did not interpret it I've seen many threads saying it reads Uzumaki Arashi. Look, if I'm wrong say so....no need to freak out.

[Trias]

YOU. ARE. RETARDED. YOU. ARE. FAIL. IT SAYS "UNINTELLIGIBLE", GO LEARN JAPANESE, GO LEARN TO READ KANJI, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, GO AND HANG YOURSELF WITH BARBED WIRE.
Thank you, I had alot of stress to relieve.
And other newbies, no, Arashi is not his name. Nor is Uzumaki. What is written there is random scribbles. It can not be read.

IT'S A TRAP.

You know.

[FrostXian]

I did not interpret it I've seen many threads saying it reads Uzumaki Arashi. Look, if I'm wrong say so....no need to freak out.Don't be offended, I yell at everything.
And the name is completely made up.

[Konoha]

YOU. ARE. RETARDED. YOU. ARE. FAIL. IT SAYS "UNINTELLIGIBLE", GO LEARN JAPANESE, GO LEARN TO READ KANJI, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, GO AND HANG YOURSELF WITH BARBED WIRE.
Thank you, I had alot of stress to relieve.
And other newbies, no, Arashi is not his name. Nor is Uzumaki. What is written there is random scribbles. It can not be read.

Yes, thank you! Don't try to read it. It's unintelligble, purposely written so.

Yes, thank you.

No. Don't fall for this, please. We do not need more of this.

I'm straith as a.. straith thing, and I like that sig doba has. Very colourful and well drawn.


dude cool it :amuse

[FadedBlack]

lol im not completely convince that this is correct and i doubt kishi would drop such a big hint in the series but.. i do think he has some strong connection with yondaime and you just started too get me thinking, anyways good job nice theory

[Rise Against713]

YOU. ARE. RETARDED. YOU. ARE. FAIL. IT SAYS "UNINTELLIGIBLE", GO LEARN JAPANESE, GO LEARN TO READ KANJI, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, GO AND HANG YOURSELF WITH BARBED WIRE.
Thank you, I had alot of stress to relieve.
And other newbies, no, Arashi is not his name. Nor is Uzumaki. What is written there is random scribbles. It can not be read.

Yes, thank you! Don't try to read it. It's unintelligble, purposely written so.

Yes, thank you.

No. Don't fall for this, please. We do not need more of this.

I'm straith as a.. straith thing, and I like that sig doba has. Very colourful and well drawn.

dude, seriosly calm down. even if it can't be read dont freak like that, man
i like the theory though its well reasurched and well done

[Mikazuki no Mai]

dude, seriosly calm down. even if it can't be read dont freak like that, man
i like the theory though its well reasurched and well done


How is it well researched if the name that says arashi uzumaki, is ineligible.

Uzumaki Arashi would be written like this: うずまきアラシ. Not no 3 ineligible characters.

Let me spin this a round a bit. We know that the 4th is on the scroll. Since the only 2 eligible names on there are Jaraiya, and Naruto. The other 2 are not even close to Naruto's name. Even though they are ineligible, I think it is almost pointing to the 4th not being Naruto's dad.

We have to wait and see if it is ever even said who naruto's dad is though.

[Rise Against713]

The spiral stuff, dumb ass

[rorykage]

the name is illegible because kishimoto isn't ready to confirm their relationship, it's not the focus of the story right now, but come on, how can anyone believe that yondaime is NOT naruto's father? look at the obvious hints, hell, my avatar alone shoul do anough to show how alike they are.

[The Fourth Hokage]

wow, it's really amazing how old topics resurface and become issues among
N00BS.
1. In the manga and in the anime, the name next to Naruto's in intentionally unreadable. It means nothing.
2. The name Arashi was made up right here on the Naruto forums simply because people wanted to refer to Yondaime by a name.
3. This is not proof and doesn't contain even a single fact as you claimed in the introduction.

Your thread is wrong. It contains nothing useful. BTW, I'm a believer in the theory that Naruto is Yondaime. If you'd like to read my theory just search for naruto origin.

[Eruravenne]

I can't believe people still actually believe that scroll thing. :amuse I mean, anyone with functioning eyes can see that the two names have nothing similar about them.

And mentioning spiral things that have nothing to do with Naruto or Yondaime specifically (such as the Konoha leaf symbol) have actually hurt your arguement more than helped it. It shows that rather than being solely connected to Naruto and Yondaime, the spiral is more of a general Konoha symbol. Since Naruto is the main character and he lives in Konoha, why not have spirals surrounding him? Also, if spirals are solely related to Naruto and Yondaime, then how do you explain Tobi's mask?

(Edit: Ahahahah! Someone left me a neg rep with no name. Coward! My first neg rep and it's from a noob chicken. :laugh )

[Troublesome]

Good work on the spirals regarding to Naruto's name.

[The_Unforgiven]

Dude, why is everyone almost gonna chop the kid's head off. He said he can't read japanese, and is relying on someone else's authority, so why give him hell. Plus, I think the scroll thing is the only way to prove if, or not, yondaime is naruto's father.

PS. I believe that he is his father. I mean, you don't go to your neighbour saying: Oh can i borrow your new born baby for a couple of hours. I'm just gonna seal a demon fox into him, ok.

[Lunchin15]

Analysis: Scroll is illegible. It is not written in Japanese. It is mindless scribble. Why would Kishi show something like Yondaime’s real name then NEVER MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT IT WHATSOEVER AGAIN? Oh yeah, he wouldn’t.

Conclusion:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1042812221-00.gif

[Leanne]

I would rep you if I could.. but I have given out too much already.
Interesting theory, you make me believe it. Though we should just wait and see.

[Spy_Smasher]

I would rep you if I could.. but I have given out too much already. Interesting theory, you make me believe it. Though we should just wait and see.Good Lord. This is why FrostXian freaks out.

[Kinjishi]

If his name were Arashi then it would most definitely be stated in the Databooks, which it is not. And I think Naruto would have noticed the name Uzumaki Arashi when he was signing his own name in the scroll. Nontheless I believe the 4th is Naruto's father but this by no means is the missing link, and is absolutely positively false.

[vanityangel2492]

oky, come on people i mean think about. Naruto could be the 4ths son. i mean look at the things hes done. Jiraiya if im not mistaken mention once that naruto is a lot like the 4th personality wise. also naruto was able to ride the frog boss and if im not mistaken again they mention that the 4th was the only one able to do the same. also naruto (if you have not kept up with the manga and do not want a spoiler do not read this part) is able to do rasengan(sp) and he may perfect it even though the 4th could not (u would expect you son to do some things you could not and maybe even better). also with the nine tail factor. i resently(sp) move to a new school and i met this kid and we were talking about naruto and the 4th and he menton a rumor about the forth being the leader of akatsuki. at first i thought he was crazy but then i put some of the facts together.. naruto was chosen to be the container of the ninetail b/c the fourth believed he could do it (being his son and all). also the fourth could be trying to get the nine tail back out of his 'son'. also it was said that the fourth (not an akatsuki thing) wanted naruto to be seen as a hero to konoha. but anyway im not sure if the akatsuki thing is true well at least i didnt think so untill my friend showed me a manga pic of the 4th wearing an akatsuki costume and kakashi saying "sensei!" and naruto well i forgot what he said though it look as if it were draw by the man who created naruto... still im not to sure i belive that. though most evidence says that naruto is the 4th(yondaime)s son.

[Chaos Hokage]

Wow! So this was the guy who started the whole 4th Hokage=Naruto's Father. It was predictable, but I still have to give props.

[shadowofthemist]

warning spoiler

i will end this whole thread right now. read manga 367 and ull find out that yes yondaime is narutos father!!!

[9Tail-Hokage]

Old and very spoilerific. Recycling this. If you want threads discussing this then go into the Telegrams.

And you, sir, could you please not revive old threads that could spoil the hell out of some people? Read the giant sticky with the CAPS LOCKED lettering.