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T2004
09-13-2005, 06:08 PM
Here is the article on the Cartoon Network Pressroom
http://turnerinfo.com/newsitem.aspx?P=CARTOON&CID01=e11aa17d-0e9b-43a1-a757-6a60bd87f24a

Seems Naruto was the highest rated show on CN this week. Go Naruto! Believe it!!

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 06:11 PM
Hell yeah! Take that and stuff it dub haters.

Hmm, or rather maybe they jsut advertised it well.

Ami
09-13-2005, 06:12 PM
oh yeah
naruto is so popular that it would get high ratings
its got ninjas that kick butt!
WOOT YEAH!

Carmine
09-13-2005, 06:12 PM
Go Naruto! Though, I can't say I'm surprised. :P

Procyon
09-13-2005, 06:13 PM
All the dub haters claim they didn't even advertize well though. Wrong again! But then they decide that we're the stupid ones!! >_< Take that! =O

Ami
09-13-2005, 06:14 PM
Its my first time seeing it too
go naruto!
i can belive it would get high ratings cause of all those kick-butt ninjas!

Blackvoice
09-13-2005, 06:16 PM
kewl
but really couldn't they have come up with something better than Believe it? lol

anyways that's kewl that it did great i know i will keep watching

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:17 PM
Very, very nice. I thought as much.

kewl
but really couldn't they have come up with something better than Believe it? lol

That's the best translation for Dattebayo there is. :P

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:17 PM
Darn it! dont you get it?

Just because its got good ratings doesnt means its only from fans who know what Naruto really is. but also N00b's who think NARUTO is DBZ part 2. :barf :barf :barf

Shinigami-Isshin
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
obviously the buzz for this was colllosacle(not a word) so why wouldnt make the top ratings?

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
Darn it! dont you get it?

Just because its got good ratings doesnt means is from fans who know what Naruto really is. Just N00b's who think is DBZ part 2.

Elitist asshat, much?

Jiraiya Sennin
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
That comes as to no surprise ^_^ Glad that a fav Anime of mine gets good ratings. Naruto will most likely continue to have high ratings on the fact that it is new, some have been waiting to watch it incase they were unable to get the sub, also im sure the comercials aired sparked a little interest.

Blackvoice
09-13-2005, 06:20 PM
Very, very nice. I thought as much.

That's the best translation for Dattebayo there is. :P

Good point can't argue that but it just made me get goose bumps a bit. i am sure after a while i will not even notice it.

T2004
09-13-2005, 06:20 PM
Darn it! dont you get it?

Just because its got good ratings doesnt means is from fans who know what Naruto really is. Just N00b's who think NARUTO is DBZ part 2. :barf :barf :barf

You're joking, right?:blink Must mean that the Japenese people think the same way, cause Naruto is usually in the top 10

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:20 PM
Elitist asshat, much?

What the heck is an Elitist asshat?

Anyway, Its a decent Dub..kinda cheap..but good.

You're joking, right? Must mean that the Japenese people think the same way, cause Naruto is usually in the top 10

No Japanese fans Loved it because of the Manga (and its Coolness!!!), American fans do too! BUT! you gotta admit its possible many of them are Noobs. :S

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:25 PM
What the heck is an Elitist asshat?

Anyway, Its a decent Dub..kinda cheap..but good.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources..

asshat One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. Asshat

Why is it that just because they're individuals who watch Naruto through the dub on Toonami, they're "Just N00b's who think NARUTO is DBZ part 2" and that they're incapable of being "fans who know what Naruto really is" ?

DeathIsComing
09-13-2005, 06:26 PM
YATTA(sp?)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I believe Naruto will do great. but then again, the overplaying of re-runs will kill it later on.

T2004
09-13-2005, 06:26 PM
No Japanese fans Love it because of the Manga, American fans do too! BUT! you gotta admit its possible many of them are Noobs. :S

Um, but that's a GOOD thing, it exposes more people to Kishimoto's work.:)

silverwings
09-13-2005, 06:27 PM
No Japanese fans Love it because of the Manga, American fans do too! BUT! you gotta admit its possible many of them are Noobs. :S

Everyone was a noob at one point. :wink

Great news. The fact that the ratings were higher in the 10pm repeat than the 9pm is very interesting.

Ratings should be steller this week as well, since there will be more new shows premiring this saturday as well. :tem

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:27 PM
No, I said That Many can be Noob's that havent read the Manga and just watch it to watch it! I didnt say all fans are like those jerks!

and youre the Asshat :P...No, Im the Asshat, I didnt explain well..I only hope they Honor the Japanese Anime and Manga and Not ruin the DUB like other Anime!!

That is all. :)

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:31 PM
No, I said That Many can be Noob's that havent read the Manga! I didnt say all!

and youre the Asshat since you didnt understand me, I just talk but are you wise enough to know what I mean?

Darn it! dont you get it?

Just because its got good ratings doesnt means its only from fans who know what Naruto really is. but also N00b's who think NARUTO is DBZ part 2.

I'm sorry...where is it that you mention the word manga there?

Hmm...I don't see any synonyms either...hmmm....peculiar.

And with that logic, my friend, wouldn't you be no different for not understanding what I meant?

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:33 PM
Eh..I edited that post sorry...heres the new one!

No, I said That Many can be Noobs that havent read the Manga and just watch it to watch it! I didnt say all fans are like those jerks!

and youre the Asshat ...No, Im the Asshat, I didnt explain well..I only hope they Honor the Japanese Anime and Manga and Not ruin the DUB like other Anime!!

That is all.

AstralSky
09-13-2005, 06:34 PM
6-11 year olds?!!!! Oh god.....:blink

-Sigh- I should probably grow up.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:35 PM
6-11 year olds?!!!! Oh god.....:blink

-Sigh- I should probably grow up.

Dude, what are you talking about?

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:36 PM
People don't get banned for insulting or trying to prove a mod wrong. :P

Anyway, I'm glad you editted your original post, Hatake Kakashi. All is forgiven. :knk

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 06:37 PM
Wow , you guys are really nicer than I thought.

All is forgiven

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:38 PM
People don't get banned for insulting or trying to prove a mod wrong. :P

Anyway, I'm glad you editted your original post, Hatake Kakashi. All is forgiven. :knk

Heh, yeah well my brain is slow..sorry about that. :kkkawarim

Astranagun
09-13-2005, 06:39 PM
you sure you're 20 years old?

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:40 PM
Heh heh, Suprised? Im not. :P

Age means nothing, you can always keep your attitude if you want to. :P

I should change it ne? is too..annoying? :P har har!

Hagi
09-13-2005, 06:40 PM
hmmm sounds good maybe this'll be better than i originally thought :woo


sucks living in u.k who knows how long we'll have to wait, i'm sure on its debue on CN here it should get quite high ratings to.

DeadDuo
09-13-2005, 06:40 PM
Alright! Maybe Naruto will do a pretty good job in America as well. I guess time will tell.

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 06:41 PM
Wow , you guys are really nicer than I thought.

All is forgiven

Sarcasm. :P

I meant that as a fellow member of the forums and fan of all things Naruto (dub included), not as a mod. :P

AstralSky
09-13-2005, 06:43 PM
The Saturday night replay of Naruto (10 p.m.) was the highest-rated program of the week on Cartoon Network with tweens 9-14 (2.8/700,000) and tween boys 9-14 (4.7/594,000).

That is what I'm talking About. The thing didn't even mention 16-21 or w/e it is.

halfhearted
09-13-2005, 06:43 PM
I am going to have to reserve judgement on this for few weeks. I have a feeling a lot of the watchers were sub Naruto fans, waiting to see what happened to their beloved anime. I, myself, was very dissappointed and will probably never watch the dubs again, or if I do it will just be to see who is voicing my favorite characters. Anyways, I think that the ratings will probably go down these coming weeks due to the show's loss of old blood.



Oh and for a funny and relevant comic go here: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145 (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145)

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:43 PM
Well, I heard Sasuke..Who the heck said his Voice actor was a girl? Im about to smack him :P No, seriously Sasuke's got a decent Voice..need to hear more though.

PS. God I HATE 4KIDS!! :mad

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 06:46 PM
Err, does anyone have a clip of English Sasuke?

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:48 PM
Err, does anyone have a clip of English Sasuke?

is on cartoon network.com Preview Movies page.

Sangai
09-13-2005, 06:52 PM
im sorry, but OF Course naruto was gonna get CN's highest ratings....all the fans wanted to know what the dub would be like ...like how honestly bad it was gonna be..

im sorry but Cn was smart to get it


but the dub was absolutly terrible..VIZ did a horrible job, the things that bothereed most fans was the horrible pronounciation of words.

things like

ho ka gey is how they said it...terrible..is ho ka jee so hard to say

and jeenin..its GEE nin...

jounin i think was even said wrong....

to to mention..the iruka scene just wasn't the same without the BLOOD protuding from his nose..

iruka's and mizuki's convo was blocky and choppy, almost as if yes they where readin from a script..see thatsa a bad thing,...when it sounds like there reading straight from a piece of paper for the first time. it makes things flow incredibly bad.


not to mention some of the voice's where god awful....mizuki''s was the only one i though was so so decent..

naruto...doesn't sound serious any more..thats not his personality..i honestly think none of the viz cast researched or watched what the characters where like in the japanese episodes...



so i for one am very dissapointed...3/10....yes i tuned in...but i say naruto will only have such high ratings for so long....i give it a month at most.

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 06:53 PM
For the last time it is Ho Kah Gay

T2004
09-13-2005, 06:53 PM
I am going to have to reserve judgement on this for few weeks. I have a feeling a lot of the watchers were sub Naruto fans, waiting to see what happened to their beloved anime. I, myself, was very dissappointed and will probably never watch the dubs again, or if I do it will just be to see who is voicing my favorite characters. Anyways, I think that the ratings will probably go down these coming weeks due to the show's loss of old blood.



Oh and for a funny and relevant comic go here: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145 (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145)

Yeah, but most sub wathers are ages 15 to WHATEVER. The ratings show the 6-11 demographic. So I think the majority of watchers weren't us, but the new American veiwers and manga readers.

uncle jafuncle
09-13-2005, 06:55 PM
That is what I'm talking About. The thing didn't even mention 16-21 or w/e it is.

It usually takes the older crowd a little while to catach on. 16-21 year olds don't watch cartoon network all the time like younger kids do, it seems. Most of the older viewers have specific shows they watch(mostly adult swim and toonami) and it takes awhile for them to find out about new ones and start watching. I give it 2 months until 16+ starts rising to notable levels.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 06:56 PM
Yeah, but most sub wathers are ages 15 to WHATEVER. The ratings show the 6-11 demographic. So I think the majority of watchers weren't us, but the new American veiwers and manga readers.

Eh..thats what I was trying to say. :laugh

Sangai
09-13-2005, 06:57 PM
it may be...i still feel they emphazide too much on the ending ...and it could of just been the voice..it just sounded bad.

RamseySylph
09-13-2005, 06:58 PM
Well, this definatly isnt the worst possible dub that could be done... If I heard "Doppleganger technique" I'd probably would have had to break my TV. But the Narutofan review gives this dub WAY too much credit. I'd call it a "Decent" sub, it wasnt as bad as One Piece >_>. But it dosent live up to the series at all, there have been much better dubs, I really wish Pioneer or someone better had picked this up, Trigun and Cowboy Bebop had great dubs. Naruto's voice is probably the most annoying of all, sure he is pre-pubescent, but at least the Japanese VA sounds like a boy, the american VA sounds like a little girl. Shikamaru have his lazy troublesome drawl that he usually talks with, like it takes too much effort to speak, and Sakura and Ino have very sub-par generic voices. Iruka has no emotion, and it sounds like someone reading off of a script. Hokage's voice was OK, but his wonky lines made it sound terrible.

Thats the biggest problem, the translation is really horrendous. Even the worst fansubs tend to do a better job. "Hell Yeah" became "I kick but?" the general speaking is just very wonky and dosent convey the real meaning behind the scene, it really destroys most of the feelings in the scene. They've made the show to child-orientated, ofcourse some of it needs to be changed, but they should never change the dialogue so much that the meaning of what is being said is changed, if they have to, its obviously not intended for that audience. "Heck Yeah!" would work perfectly fine. Also, half translating stuff is extremly annoying. Clone Jutsu? These things just sound awkward when said either say "Clone Technique" or "Buunshin no Jutsu!" not Clone Jutsu, it sounds very awkward. Hokage was fine, but what the hell happened to Genin... Iruka says "Gaaaa Neeen" I had to turn off the TV after that to clean the blood out of my ears, but they pronounced Jounin right, whats up with that? Its not a terrible dub, but they could have done much much better. On a final note, Lee Rock...T_T)


PS. Something that is really annoyed me and that I wasnt able to confirm before watching them back to back. The music to dialogue volume is WAY different in the US version. When Naruto is telling Mizuki he is going to beat the crap out of him, you cant even hear the music because Naruto's voice overpowers it so much, the music volume dims a lot, and the scene looses feeling. Watch it again and you will notice this, its strange and its the same with most of the music.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 07:01 PM
Oh, and Naruto said "Belive it!" alot!, whats up with that?

TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 07:01 PM
things like

ho ka gey is how they said it...terrible..is ho ka jee so hard to say

Jeez...I wonder if people even watch the series?

Ho-ka-gay is the correct pronounciation, my friend. They said it perfectly.

and jeenin..its GEE nin...

Yeah, everyone agrees that was akward.

jounin i think was even said wrong....

Dude, now you're just bitching for the sake of bitching. It was pronounced perfectly.

to to mention..the iruka scene just wasn't the same without the BLOOD protuding from his nose..

It's a culture thing. All dubbed anime that don't air on Adult Swim have things like that removed. The actual meaning wasn't loss at all though. They still had Naruto turning into a beautiful naked woman and a perverted old man/closet pervert fainting.

iruka's and mizuki's convo was blocky and choppy, almost as if yes they where readin from a script..see thatsa a bad thing,...when it sounds like there reading straight from a piece of paper for the first time. it makes things flow incredibly bad.

IMO, Mizuki was GREAT (no pun intended for filler fans). I liked him alot. Lines like, "Those are the eyes of a beast," make me smirk.


not to mention some of the voice's where god awful....mizuki''s was the only one i though was so so decent..

IMO, Sarutobi was a god. He had a perfect voice.

Ebisu and Konohamaru I actually prefered to the original Japanese VA's.

Iruka needs to work on his acting and Maile did a great Naruto considering she's supposed to be playing a 12-year-old boy that has a knack for causing trouble and joking around.

naruto...doesn't sound serious any more..thats not his personality..i honestly think none of the viz cast researched or watched what the characters where like in the japanese episodes...

"If you ever lay a hand on my sensei...I'll kill you."

Sorry, didn't notice the loss of seriousness. Seriously, don't judge from just two episodes...especially two episodes that aren't all that serious in the first place for Naruto.



o i for one am very dissapointed...3/10....yes i tuned in...but i say naruto will only have such high ratings for so long....i give it a month at most.

Kidding? It will only continue to go higher. Soon, nearly all children who watch Toonami will be addicted, i'm betting.
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TenshiOni
09-13-2005, 07:04 PM
Oh, and Naruto said "Belive it!" alot!, whats up with that?

"Believe it" happens to be the correct translation for "Dattebayo", my friend.

helldragon
09-13-2005, 07:08 PM
Kidding? It will only continue to go higher. Soon, nearly all children who watch Toonami will be addicted, i'm betting.
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Very true.

T2004
09-13-2005, 07:08 PM
On a final note, Lee Rock...T_T)

Yeah....., they kept Rock Lee's name the same.

Jiraiya Sennin
09-13-2005, 07:08 PM
Funny how they put a cap on the ages for the ratings. There are watchers over the age of 14 who do watch it.. ah its not a big deal.

I was bit disappointed by some of the pronounciations.. but its something i'll have to deal with and eventually get over with. The show will be pretty much popular by most newcomers i'd guess around 74% then a low 5-18% will find the sub and give that a try for the sake of it. In the end the show will stil lrecieve great ratings and continue to air. ^_^

organizedcrime
09-13-2005, 07:09 PM
Dude, now you're just bitching for the sake of bitching. It was pronounced perfectly.

I think I started that (on the forum anyway from the "Skmaru" thread)



IMO, Mizuki was GREAT (no pun intended for filler fans). I liked him alot. Lines like, "Those are the eyes of a beast," make me smirk.



Rofl, I wonder how kids are gonna take that filler.

T2004
09-13-2005, 07:12 PM
Rofl, I wonder how kids are gonna take that filler.

lol, same as we did. "Look It's Tony!!!!"

izzy
09-13-2005, 07:12 PM
Yeah, but most sub wathers are ages 15 to WHATEVER. The ratings show the 6-11 demographic. So I think the majority of watchers weren't us, but the new American veiwers and manga readers.

The target audience is 6-12. That doesn't necessarly mean the majority of the audience was 6-12. I bet you a good chunk of those viewers were Adult Swim regulars tuning in early.

But ehh... I have seen most of the sub, there is no real reason to watch it over again. I will probably just check in to see the direction its going with regards to editing.

helldragon
09-13-2005, 07:15 PM
Actually, toonami's target audience is really 9-14. It has been ever since they moved to weekends. They do accept ratings from other demographics. Miguzi's target audience is 6-11.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-13-2005, 07:15 PM
"Believe it" happens to be the correct translation for "Dattebayo", my friend.

Thought So! :P

I just didnt noticed it right away, Thanks! :)

Actually, the translation its pretty well done! Sure! theres some different stuff..but over all it was well done.

Im glad they left the Sexy no Jutsu! even in the game Narutimate hero they edited the SEXY-NO-JUSTSU!! in art gallery that game has, they made the Sexy no justsu wearing a swim suit! :) So Im glad the Dub is cool.

Thanks again for the info!

T2004
09-13-2005, 07:16 PM
The target audience is 6-12. That doesn't necessarly mean the majority of the audience was 6-12. I bet you a good chunk of those viewers were Adult Swim regulars tuning in early.

But ehh... I have seen most of the sub, there is no real reason to watch it over again. I will probably just check in to see the direction its going with regards to editing.
I bet you a good chunk was. But the ratings don't show our demograhic so there's no way in knowing. It shows the total ratings of what they wanted to target the show towards, and they succeeded in doing that.

Daniee
09-13-2005, 07:21 PM
Dammit, whenever I find new news on the dub, someone always beats me to it :notrust

Well, glad to see it doing well anyway, and if it continues to do this good, CN will defintely order more episodes :amuse
I still don't think it's going to top DBZ's average of 900,000 viewers though :wink

genesisofire
09-13-2005, 07:41 PM
ho ka gey is how they said it...terrible..is ho ka jee so hard to say


LOL it's not terrible, your version is completely wrong. Ho ka jee, that was the best one I've heard so far. Does everyone here watch the same subs? It's surprising that some people here can get through 150 episodes without picking up how they say things. :huh






ANYWAY, back on topic. I was expecting Naruto to have the highest ratings of all the other shows. It was whored much more, they showed two straight hours of it the first day, and from when it first showed to next Saturday, there's a total of 7 hours of coverage. It's obvious they want everyone to see it. It's a little disappointing that not too many older teenagers watched the show like most of us here. However, I always wondered how they know how old the viewers are.

helldragon
09-13-2005, 07:46 PM
It's only the first two episodes. Don't expect it to get DBZ popular yet. Wait until they showed the ratings when they air the zabuza arc.

nimbus
09-13-2005, 07:56 PM
NARUTO PWNS JOO. I'm glad it got good ratings. It will never be better than the dub, the Japanese voices were too perfect, but hell, it's a Japanese cartoon guys. So be grateful^^.

Shounen Bat
09-13-2005, 07:57 PM
well, thats good to hear. i don't hate the dub, it'll just take some getting used to. i knew this was going to be the "next big thing" since i started watching two years ago, so i'm glad to see that the series itself is gaining even more success.

Sonic4390
09-13-2005, 08:05 PM
thats just awsome. i knwe it would do good here in the US. and it remindes people of DBZ because the artist was a huge dbz fan as a kid, and its cause they jump high. ^^ believe it

Stevo-kun
09-13-2005, 08:05 PM
I can't say I am surprised at this, but I am not in America so I couldn't watch it, ah well, I will see the dub somehow, don't know how yet though, but GO NARUTO!!!.. not one bit surprising that it got high ratings.

silverwings
09-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Actually, toonami's target audience is really 9-14. It has been ever since they moved to weekends. They do accept ratings from other demographics. Miguzi's target audience is 6-11.

quoted for accuracy.

The report gives rating info on:
6-11 ALL
6-11 BOYS
9-14 ALL
9-14 BOYS

And just because they don't mention 15+ doesn't mean CN doesn't care. They still love it when you watch. :tem

(Kinda how CN will report 18-34 for Adult Swim shows and nothing else, but won't complain if other ages are watching it. :P )

Also, they give these ratings out because it's these age groups the advertisers are aiming for on Toonami. :amuse

Kyuubi Naruto
09-13-2005, 08:12 PM
Ehh.......what do you expect if the show was played 6 times?

Maleficent
09-13-2005, 08:12 PM
I think it's absolutely fabulous that the dub got such high ratings. It's not really surprising considering the massive fanbase the Japanese version has and the constant advertising on TV/in magazines that I've seen within the past few months.

Maybe this means they'll license the rest of it after a few months if the ratings keep up. [If they haven't already.]

Archssor
09-13-2005, 08:21 PM
Go Naruto!

Ami
09-13-2005, 08:51 PM
Many people i have ment like this anime....
I heard about it for a long time....but never got to really see it until now.....

Ninjas are totally cool and people who like ninjas would give it high ratings too and cause its a anime as well :)

Baka-san
09-13-2005, 08:53 PM
Yeah, basically because they had 300,000+ subtitle Naruto fans watching it for one. Add in the kids that watch Cartoon Network regularly, and people skimming the channels, then compare it to CN's regular ratings and you've got one hell of a number.

Ami
09-13-2005, 08:58 PM
I got more to add....
I have seen over 10000 fans on many sites wanting to see this cool anime in english...

Archssor
09-13-2005, 09:02 PM
Yeah, I bet. :P

trooper11
09-13-2005, 09:03 PM
yeah i didnt really have a doubt that naruto was going to be popular. even if the dubbing wasnt perfect, its decent enough that first time veiwers will still love it lol, goes to show you how good the core story and characters are.

but the real test is the long term numbers. Alot of people that might not watch the dub on a regular basis watched the premier to see how it was, and its possible there are some viewers that gave it a try and didnt like it, although i doubt that lol.

Ami
09-13-2005, 09:06 PM
Oh yeah....
ITS being talked about ALL OVER THE INTERNET!
thats like over so many fans....its super popular!
GO naruto!
its so cool!

SuikenUser
09-13-2005, 09:07 PM
Woot! Woot! Party with the fox kid!

Manetheren
09-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Ehh.......what do you expect if the show was played 6 times?

Those ratings were just for the Satuday Night airings.

It even had seperate info for the 10PM repeat.

AstralSky
09-13-2005, 10:00 PM
It usually takes the older crowd a little while to catach on. 16-21 year olds don't watch cartoon network all the time like younger kids do, it seems. Most of the older viewers have specific shows they watch(mostly adult swim and toonami) and it takes awhile for them to find out about new ones and start watching. I give it 2 months until 16+ starts rising to notable levels.

I don't know man, I think that most of the people who tuned in on Saturday were definitly over 15. Obviously, most of them were Sub watchers who just wanted to get a couple of laughs. I know tons of people at VCU (local college) who had parties. What I'm saying is that the age demographic was there, CN just didn't report on it.

EDIT: People, Japan has many dialects just like we do. Its common for a VA to misprounce Ho-Ka-Ge simply because of where they are from. And if a VA is from Okinawa, then it's even worse. Just listen to the band ORANGE RANGE and you'll know what I'm talking about.

So obviously if the VA from Japan can make a mistake, then its obvious a VA from America can too. Besides, this was the first 2 episodes, and the series was only licensed a few months ago. For such a fast release, they did a good job. Besides, I'm sure they are recieving some hate mail about the pronounciations. I'm sure in the future they will get better.:wink

Ami
09-13-2005, 10:10 PM
I bet many kids of america are going nuts to see this.....
they must be really wild...

TheVileOne
09-13-2005, 10:26 PM
Happy to hear it. Mazel tov to everyone who made it happen.

Archssor
09-13-2005, 10:44 PM
I bet many kids of america are going nuts to see this.....
they must be really wild...

Yeah, fo sure. :wink

RamseySylph
09-13-2005, 11:17 PM
It dosent really matter anyways, even if I think and say its garbage, I will just watch the sub anyways. With the way toonami releaseses stuff, it will take them 6 years to catch up to the japanese anyways. I'm sure most of us here will continue to watch the dub regardless. I will probably be turning it on every once and a while to hear how its going and to inflict pain on myself. Its crazy how popular this series has become, one of the biggest sub communities I've seen. I remember the night when the dub came out, I was having conversations with at least 30 people about it XD. In Final Fantasy XI people were talking about it all over, I couldnt get around without hearing shouts about how bad it was and then huge arguements would break out. But I beleive that it can get better, it is the first few episodes, VA tend to get progressivley better at their charachters. The only major beef I have is the Genin thing... How could the people working on it hear that and not say something lol... its not like they dont say genin enough in the japanese version.

Rudox
09-13-2005, 11:22 PM
Fact is there are now more newbie Naruto fans than old school Naruto fans. Get used to it and don't try to fight it cause nothing will come out of it. New fans and the curious will watch the dub, if you don't like it you shouldn't even think about it.

Hotaru
09-13-2005, 11:30 PM
I'm just curious to hear all the voices. :P

ArioNeko
09-13-2005, 11:55 PM
Yea seems that it had good rankings too bad thats not my demographic. How funny I guess I can forgive all these newbie fans as what are they bunch of children? 6-14 years old? What do you expect of them as you can see they are neg repping anyone that says anythign bad about the dub so its pointless to argue with them.

Can't believe these people can stand Maile Flanagan as Naruto's voice myself...

Hatake7002
09-14-2005, 12:04 AM
I hope this is one anime that does not get messed up by dubs, but they could at least get the techniques right...

TheVileOne
09-14-2005, 01:49 AM
Yea seems that it had good rankings too bad thats not my demographic. How funny I guess I can forgive all these newbie fans as what are they bunch of children? 6-14 years old? What do you expect of them as you can see they are neg repping anyone that says anythign bad about the dub so its pointless to argue with them.

Can't believe these people can stand Maile Flanagan as Naruto's voice myself...

And here's the snobbish elitism from the otaku.

Believe it or not, that's pretty close to the demographic in Japan as well ArioNeko.

Jiai
09-14-2005, 01:57 AM
Go Naruto!! ^O^

trooper11
09-14-2005, 04:27 PM
"Believe it or not, that's pretty close to the demographic in Japan as well ArioNeko."

close, but not the same. in fact the very fact that we see any editing is evidence that naruto as it was meant to be wasnt right for the 'kids' in Viz's opinion to meet a certain age group here in the US.

CrazyMoronX
09-14-2005, 04:40 PM
The show having high ratings isn't going to stop the dub-haters to continue to hate the dub, and continue to post hateful messages about why it is terrible, and what makes them hate it so much.

But good to see it's doing well... the only reason that's good is because now we'll be able to get the Naruto related video games and movies a lot quicker. Well in english that is.

Darth Judicar
09-14-2005, 04:44 PM
That's good news, but I'd bet they'd be even higher if it wasn't edited at all. If all these preteens and teens thought this was good, they should see the real deal heh. (No, I'm not a dub hater) Anyway, it's great to see Naruto is doing that good despite it being a dub, as that means it will do even better the rest of the year, meaning it stays.

Toadstule
09-14-2005, 11:34 PM
Thats great to hear, I didnt expect Naruto to gain popularity so fast.

And1balla2829
09-14-2005, 11:47 PM
w00t. Keep it up and maybe they'll show new episodes more often o_0 I dunno but good job naruto. Even if you dont like the dub for some reason still support Naruto by leaving ur TV on Naruto for the half hour its on. :)

Dark Shadow
09-14-2005, 11:53 PM
Yeah, the dub is going good

Plus, any teens who like the dub might come to a Naruto forum and might move over to the sub instead......moving to the "light side" as I call it! lol

TheVileOne
09-14-2005, 11:59 PM
"Believe it or not, that's pretty close to the demographic in Japan as well ArioNeko."

close, but not the same. in fact the very fact that we see any editing is evidence that naruto as it was meant to be wasnt right for the 'kids' in Viz's opinion to meet a certain age group here in the US.

Japan and the US are two different countries and they have different standards of editing content as well.

Also, the edits we've seen so far were hardly dramatic. It'd only be edited slightly less on Adult Swim.

Archssor
09-15-2005, 12:06 AM
Go naruto!

hakke
09-15-2005, 01:21 AM
HEll yea... im glad... it deserves the ratings Believe iT!

trooper11
09-15-2005, 04:11 PM
"Japan and the US are two different countries and they have different standards of editing content as well.

Also, the edits we've seen so far were hardly dramatic. It'd only be edited slightly less on Adult Swim."


you just made my point, in japan, the standards are alot looser then in the US. It had to be toned down to reach the aimed audience in the US. I dont think anyone can dispute that. And we will see it become more pronounced as the series goes along, there are quite a few scenes and elements (however large or small they might be) that i could see getting cut for broadcast.

that is of course, unless they change thier standards. the point is that naruto as it was meant to be is not suitable for kids in the US, in the opinion of Viz or Cartoon Network, or a mix of both.

RockLee
09-15-2005, 11:11 PM
Anyhow, we should be celebrating it's success! However, we knew they were going to get good rating because 90% of us were going to tune in anyways. The remaining 10% hate it or can't watch it because of no T.V./cable.

Negative-Ion
09-16-2005, 12:29 AM
its funny though.
The Saturday night replay of Naruto (10 p.m.) was the highest-rated program of the week.

so ill say it again, they need to change the timeslot.

trooper11
09-16-2005, 03:25 AM
well if it was the 10pm slot that got the ratings, then i agree.

i really dont see how having naruto on in the Adult Swim block would have hurt its popularity. its saturday for goodness sake.

KuwabaraTheMan
09-16-2005, 02:02 PM
Much bigger news, folks.
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/News2005/sep05/sept12/5_fri/news4friday.html

If you scroll down to the 12-17 ratings, you'll notice that Naruto was the 26th most watched show on all of Television by teenagers last week. Very, very good.

Sketchor
09-16-2005, 02:05 PM
Somehow I always knew Naruto's best shot at making the top 30 was with 12-17 and making the 26th spot on the first week is quite impressive. A CN show hasn't made that in months.

genesisofire
09-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Much bigger news, folks.
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/News2005/sep05/sept12/5_fri/news4friday.html

If you scroll down to the 12-17 ratings, you'll notice that Naruto was the 26th most watched show on all of Television by teenagers last week. Very, very good.


That's pretty impressive, and it's only going to get better from here. If it made it high with only the first two episodes, then it will really boost once it gets to a great part of the series. Since the first few episodes of Naruto are arguably the most childish and least interesting of all of the episodes. I can't wait for the first mission!

theincredibleandy
09-16-2005, 03:53 PM
I still hate the dub, but I'm so glad people in the US are tuning in. Go Naruto!

wandering_pandora
09-16-2005, 04:57 PM
I still hate the dub, but I'm so glad people in the US are tuning in. Go Naruto!
v_v same here, i don't like the dubbing. but if it makes the Toonami viewers happy, its okie with me. ^^ i also wish they get better ratings as the series goes on!!!

green tea96
09-16-2005, 05:12 PM
wait till the americans see the chuunin exams. in my opinion the chuunin exams were the best part

rarr
09-16-2005, 10:47 PM
The major problems with the dub are Iruka and some pronunciation goofups. Now, I have two questions for you all:

1. How much is Iruka even in the series?

2. Do you honestly think that they'll keep saying gaaanen after they manage to drill it into the heads of the VAs that it's genin? Besides, that was Iruka that butchered genin so badly. The translation and pronunciation will improve as the translators and VAs get used to the style of Naruto and the Japanese words.

I think I've come to a conclusion: Iruka's dub VA is the root of all evil.

Heihachi
09-16-2005, 10:56 PM
That is pretty good, no doubt it'll raise. Thats very good news it'll be on for a long long time.

blind51de
09-16-2005, 11:11 PM
I think I've come to a conclusion: Iruka's dub VA is the root of all evil.

I'm inclined to agree there, Quinton Flynn also played Raiden in Metal Gear Solid 2.

Colonel: "[something that included the word "node"]
Raiden: "DID YOU JUST CALL ME A 'NERD'?"

*rolls dice*
C'mooooooooon YTV...

YamaNeko
09-17-2005, 12:21 AM
too early to tell
this is only the first week, u still dunno if its gonna go up or down, cuz most of the viewers (probably) are u.s. naruto watchers who just wanted to see how naruto seemed like, and by the wide-range of haters out there, so, remember, its those amt of viewers - # of haters in the u.s. xP

Wavie-Davie
09-21-2005, 08:38 PM
anyone know the ratings from the showing in america?

I would like to know how well each ep did if anyone can post here each week it would be cool or a site i can get such information from...?

Please someone, I personally would like to know :D

Daniee
09-21-2005, 08:42 PM
http://turnerinfo.com/newsitem.aspx?P=CARTOON&CID01=e11aa17d-0e9b-43a1-a757-6a60bd87f24a

Naruto (Saturdays, 9 p.m.)

* Tweens 9-14 delivery (572,000) increased by 20% and ratings (2.3) by 21%.
* Kids 6-11 delivery (575,000) expanded by 15% and ratings (2.4) by 14%.
* Tween boys 9-14 delivery (443,000) and ratings (3.5) both surged by 25%.
* Boys 6-11 delivery (432,000) jumped by 16% and ratings (3.5) by 17%.
* The Saturday night replay of Naruto (10 p.m.) was the highest-rated program of the week on Cartoon Network with tweens 9-14 (2.8/700,000) and tween boys 9-14 (4.7/594,000).

Negative-Ion
09-21-2005, 08:46 PM
Naruto ranked 26 in the 12-17 age category, something like that.
edit: your sig is way to big, you should resize it.

Wavie-Davie
09-21-2005, 08:51 PM
heh just sorting it now :) only just put new ones on

thx for info guys

Sasuke'sgirl
09-21-2005, 11:16 PM
Yay yeah i'm not surprised I knew it would do good on CN it's just obvious. ^_^

Ultimate_Idiot
09-22-2005, 11:41 AM
Do you wonder what the ratings would be if 4kids or funimation dubbed it? I have to admit though - It's about time that they had a slightly good show (Plot wise. Slightly because of the editing and the VAs) on TV these days..

slasher1001
09-22-2005, 12:20 PM
i'm just hoping it will keep the rating high.

TEK
09-22-2005, 12:41 PM
I still hate the dub, but I'm so glad people in the US are tuning in. Go Naruto!
My thoughts exactly. I guess if you've never heard the japanese voices, maybe the US voices probably wouldn't sound as bad. That's just a guess though.

helldragon
09-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Do you wonder what the ratings would be if 4kids or funimation dubbed it? I have to admit though - It's about time that they had a slightly good show (Plot wise. Slightly because of the editing and the VAs) on TV these days..

I like the Viz dub but it would have been better if Funi dubbed it. Don't put Funimation in the same level as 4kids. The only anime they butchered was DBZ and it's dvds are already uncut. All their animes got very good dubs.

As for the ratings, if funimation got it, I think their dub would still get the same ratings. If 4kids got it, the ratings would suck since they'll most likely put it in 4kids TV which gets crap ratings.

Panzer Kunst
09-22-2005, 04:09 PM
FUNimation is quite good for the most part. They've been doing an excellent job with Lupin, a series I love, and I continue to support them.

I didn't even enjoy Dragonball all that much anyway.

Naruto's success is hardly surprising, as it's an excellent series with an excellent plotline and excellent characters. Excellent! *Keeanu guitar solo*

Splintered
09-22-2005, 04:24 PM
Funimation learned a lot from DragonBall, I think they are doing much better.


How exactly do those sites get their info? Online polls? If so then the age demographic could be slightly skewed

helldragon
09-22-2005, 06:04 PM
Neilsen Ratings. I don't really know how that works though.

Naruto-Garaa123
09-22-2005, 07:43 PM
im glad its popular b/c then they will create a Naruto video game in english and if lucky a morpg :P

Ah B
09-25-2005, 01:59 AM
This will be the new DBZ, hopefully. a long lasting legend that replays even after it's over.

King Speed
09-25-2005, 02:03 AM
they're all ready running reruns, shit they had reruns the day it was aired and the day after... CN loves reruns

Jericko
09-25-2005, 02:07 AM
Oh god... please just let this be as bad as it gets :(. I'm really not looking forward to Holloween, I'll guarantee you that.

naruto is going to become the next DBZ, and it's only just beginning!!!!

muddysmind
09-25-2005, 10:36 AM
Oh god... please just let this be as bad as it gets :(. I'm really not looking forward to Holloween, I'll guarantee you that.

naruto is going to become the next DBZ, and it's only just beginning!!!!


I can see it now..

*ding-dong*
(door opens to a dozen Naruto costumes)
"Tricker Treat!"
"My are you all Naruto?"

"We sure are, Believe it!"

Spectrum
09-25-2005, 05:05 PM
I can see it now..

*ding-dong*
(door opens to a dozen Naruto costumes)
"Tricker Treat!"
"My are you all Naruto?"

"We sure are, Believe it!":laugh

Am I the only one who would absolutely love that? If a group of Narutos came trick-or-treating at my house, I'd let them have every bit of candy left in the bowl. :P

But the series is too new in the US to expect costumes and that sort of thing this year. Keep an eye out for 2006, though... :wink

On topic, I'm curious to know how the show did in the ratings for the past couple of weeks. I really wish there was some easy way to look this sort of thing up. XD

Mikeq64
09-25-2005, 05:09 PM
Got that right man It will lst longest out of um all!

That explains why they only show one a week scince they only got 52 episodes

Even
09-25-2005, 05:20 PM
Naruto'll conquer the world:D:D
buut they should find a better translation of Dattebayo:sad

Danny Lilithborne
09-25-2005, 05:24 PM
Oh god... please just let this be as bad as it gets :(. I'm really not looking forward to Holloween, I'll guarantee you that.

naruto is going to become the next DBZ, and it's only just beginning!!!!

Get over it, nazi. :P

Mikeq64
09-25-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh God Hes Right naruto will be the next dbz and it could end up going for years even Dbz is still alive and breathing Thats it we got not choice we gotta kill the creators of Naruto LOL jk but he is right that naratu is problay gunna be the next Dbz

kakashi1234
11-14-2005, 05:50 PM
I think naruto had great ratings for the very first show.i think they had more viewers than they thought they would ever get.

DrunkenYoshimaster
11-14-2005, 05:57 PM
I wonder if theyll show naruto daily after the end of this arc, or sometime soon?
Like M-F would be awesome.

IveGotCandy
11-14-2005, 09:25 PM
Well, if you folks really need to see some numbers regarding Naruto's success, Here is an official chart released by Viz:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/Slashpizza/Narutopwnchart.jpg

As you can see, Naruto will only snowball into a frenzy in given time.

Marsallaus
11-14-2005, 11:29 PM
Good to see that quality television can be aired and recieve good ratings in "prime time". Personally I rarely watch TV before 10PM anyways, so im not too sure how much advertising went on. I would have been a lot happier if Naruto bumped Inuyasha off of Adult Swim, but thems the breaks. We also need to consider the audience. The show is about kids who are freakin 12!! Just because they do stuff that we find neato to watch doesn't change the fact that it WILL have great appel to children. Its kinda like their way of railing against us adults or whatever.

-Mars

Giant Enemy Crab
11-15-2005, 07:12 PM
So.. was this not expected by anyone?

TheVileOne
11-17-2005, 01:30 AM
This is great news. If this means we could get theatrical distribution of the Naruto movies, I'm all for it.

creativerealms
11-17-2005, 08:44 PM
You know I expect the editing to go down before it goes up. Huh why? Simple Viz was not trying for a PG rating but a Y7 rating, high Y7 but still Y7. The fact that cartoon Network chickened out and gave it a PG rating will allow Viz to edit it less for a while. Of course thats just a theory.

Oh happy to be here. I have been using this board as referance for a while as for a naruto fan Site that has been around for a while you guys have been much fairer to the dub then others.

Miyoko
11-20-2005, 03:08 PM
What's it like in America right now.... is everyone raving on about it?? Or is it... just normal... ^^?

nwoppertje
11-21-2005, 12:52 PM
I wonder exactly the same thing. Is it on it's way to become a huge craze like Pokemon and DBZ were? With more merchandise than you can imagine and sneaky marketingplans to go with it?

nah-nah
11-21-2005, 01:26 PM
I don't think it's blown up quite yet as far as popularity, but it's getting ready to... And I'm waiting for it... I just hope my checkbook can handle the mercandise explosion. Yay for video games. XDDD

Dr. Obvious
11-21-2005, 06:15 PM
Darn it! dont you get it?

Just because its got good ratings doesnt means its only from fans who know what Naruto really is. but also N00b's who think NARUTO is DBZ part 2. :barf :barf :barf
Do not compare Naruto to DBZ, there's a billion animes out there with fighting, so really it should be "every other anime part 2".

*edit*
I'm not suprised at the ratings, it's a good show :P. Just wait for the ratings 30 episodes down the line or so. :thumbs

Ryu Hayabusa
12-02-2005, 09:18 PM
hah, because of the stupid American kids who know nothing of Japan but love stuff about ninjas

gamecity
12-05-2005, 07:39 PM
hah, because of the stupid American kids who know nothing of Japan but love stuff about ninjas

If you know anything about japanese ninja or the history of the ninja then you will be hating Naruto for being the worst kind of ninja anime there ever was.

The major problems with the dub are Iruka and some pronunciation goofups. Now, I have two questions for you all:

1. How much is Iruka even in the series?

2. Do you honestly think that they'll keep saying gaaanen after they manage to drill it into the heads of the VAs that it's genin? Besides, that was Iruka that butchered genin so badly. The translation and pronunciation will improve as the translators and VAs get used to the style of Naruto and the Japanese words.

I think I've come to a conclusion: Iruka's dub VA is the root of all evil.

I don't think the dub will improve. It will be the same as the subtitled version of the anime but with a kinder, non-cursing type of anime for the American Viewers. It's because if you say "DAMN" in a cartoon kid show, the whole world is about to collapse and the anime is promoting Satan worshipping according to U.S. parents.

Jaga
12-06-2005, 04:54 PM
if naruto does good, its not news... of coursr it gonna do good.. itss the best!

~RAGING BONER~
12-06-2005, 05:12 PM
i'm actually surprised its doing good...the dub seems rather shitty to me.

but then again when you dont know any better it really doesnt matter.

Key
12-06-2005, 05:20 PM
New it, Going to be as good as DBZ!

Cesc Fabregas
12-08-2005, 04:51 PM
naruto bigger then DBZ?!?! BELIEVE IT!!!

theshaklawist
12-10-2005, 02:36 PM
Do you honestly think that they'll keep saying gaaanen after they manage to drill it into the heads of the VAs that it's genin? Besides, that was Iruka that butchered genin so badly. The translation and pronunciation will improve as the translators and VAs get used to the style of Naruto and the Japanese words.


i think that the american translators dont even care about how to pronunce it.. they want to turn the show into a show that most americans will like, not only the ones who like japanease stuff.. and i dont think they care if things will be different than the original because for them there are no americans that saw the original japanease version.. they think americans wont know that the show had any changes from the original

albel
12-10-2005, 02:46 PM
americans have never heard the origanial animes.......so they think that the dubs are awesom...

Ryu Hayabusa
12-17-2005, 02:39 AM
If you know anything about japanese ninja or the history of the ninja then you will be hating Naruto for being the worst kind of ninja anime there ever was.
umm, think about it what do snot-nosed American kids think about ninjas "wow they jump off walls and cast spells" and they never know anything about the history or the background. just like all American kids they are streotypical and think that all things ninja revolve around all black outfits and the whole run up wall thing.

TheVileOne
12-17-2005, 05:54 AM
umm, think about it what do snot-nosed American kids think about ninjas "wow they jump off walls and cast spells" and they never know anything about the history or the background. just like all American kids they are streotypical and think that all things ninja revolve around all black outfits and the whole run up wall thing.

Seriously. You need to stop with comments like this. Do you know how ridiculously snobby and condescending you sound when you make comments like this?

This is the attitude that pisses me off. This attitude from haters like the above that think Americans and American youths aren't smart enough to watch Naruto. Like they don't deserve it or aren't good enough for it. Its people like this that make me sick. Guess what? Naruto's always been a kids' show. Get off your soap box.

unnamed182
12-17-2005, 05:40 PM
I agree with TheVileOne.Your being even more stereotypical about americans RyuHayabusa.

Ryu Hayabusa
12-19-2005, 11:39 PM
whoa whoa sorry I guess that was the red button I din't think that it would offend you so much I apoligize and ask for giveness for my rud action and I shall keep such comments to my self and also I'm American actually black