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TheMexicanKingVII
09-12-2005, 01:46 PM
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Why complain here? Will it really get anything done? If you really have such a problem with the Dub, why not take it up with them?

While the situation has been explained over countless times and while a few of you still don't get it. There is nothing GOING to be done, you can complain and cry. Just remember who is making you watch it? Is it the end of the world even though we still get the subs each week?

Simple- You don't have too watch the dub, you have the subs.

I know a lot of you are complaining about the VA and the Censoring, remember it's for Cartoon Network aimed for KIDS. You should all be grateful 4kidz didn't license Naruto, or you'd really have something to complain about.

IS the Voice Acting that bad? No, it's not that bad it's tolerable. The only reason were complaining is because all of us have been watching Japanese versions for so long, the voices are use too us. Not many of us will get use too it, it's like if your mother or your g/f voice changed you wouldn't be able to tolerate it. Most of the demographics who will be watching Naruto will range from around 8-13. (I’ll check up if I kind find out accurate statistics) the voice actors are not that bad, but we just seen only 2 episodes. Like with most animes you will grow custom too the voices and get over it.

Censoring was going to happen, we live in America in which we still have 'traditional' views. They didn't edit it so bad that it was like when Bird House did DBZ. When most of us were younger we would be dieing for the way they edit their shows. When I was young you be lucky to hear them say ... 'Kill' if anyone remembers the 'next dimension'. We got off, and we got off good. So we don't get too see gushing blood coming from the nose, whoode doo, least we get too see blood in battle.

Give it time, right now Censoring is slowly dieing. It may not be fast but it is FX and Comedy Central is really pushing the limits. Soon Cartoon Network will catch up, and they are rather fast.

So instead of crying over it, either send a letter out to VIZ and actually try to get something done.

We still have the weekly release of Naruto on this site, so I'm happy and everyone else should be rather happy that we actually are getting too see the new episodes when almost 70% of sites and torrents took it off their sites. *Cough AnimeSuki* Cough.

The way I see the dub, is were going to get more people who have the same interest that we all have, the thing which has brought us all here. We all love the series Naruto. I see it as our jobs is too swing them over to the SUB side and get them to enjoy what we have, we as a site need to stop being greedy elitist and start embracing them.


Members= Good
No Members= Bad

So let's try too be role models and make sure they get the full enjoyment out of the series that WE ALL got too enjoy.


End of Complains from a nobody;)

RaZzy
09-12-2005, 01:50 PM
ehh? Who's complaining then?..
That's just deep bullshit if you send them e-mails. It's not like they're gonna change anything.
Why complain anyway? You have the sub, so you don't have to watch the dub if you don't like it.
I like it.

RadishMan
09-12-2005, 01:55 PM
Bravo. Course can't rep ya, but you knew my heart was in the right direction. I like Naruto now and I'm very grateful to the dub. Without I probably never would have started to enjoy the series because it's so long and that's too much for me to download at once (note I usually watch a series as a whole).

TheMexicanKingVII
09-12-2005, 02:02 PM
ehh? Who's complaining then?..
That's just deep bullshit if you send them e-mails. It's not like they're gonna change anything.
Why complain anyway? You have the sub, so you don't have to watch the dub if you don't like it.
I like it.


;) Read the spoiler


As for the mailing issue, no one reads the E-Mails hence why I gave you direct addresses too mail or...visit. Personally as I said we have the subs. No one is forcing anyone too watch the dubs.

I'm ok with it.

Procyon
09-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Yes, please complain to Viz. I'm sick of seeing complaints here already, like they'll do anything for a bunch of people whining on a forum. Leave the people who don't want to hear it in peace. This forum is meant for Dub Discussion, not Dub Complaints. And all it's seen so far is the later. It makes me sorta upset...

Nanori1982
09-12-2005, 03:34 PM
XD i'd love to see people on here try and email VIZ a complaint.
you'd think they take the complaints of ranting japanophiles? who call themselves 'otaku' PAH
i bet they'd laugh their butts off. but by all means...

RadishMan
09-12-2005, 03:41 PM
XD i'd love to see people on here try and email VIZ a complaint.
you'd think they take the complaints of ranting japanophiles? who call themselves 'otaku' PAH
i bet they'd laugh their butts off. but by all means...
At least then the complaints would go to someone who "could do something" about it. What good does it do to everyday fans? :oh

pawly65
09-12-2005, 03:49 PM
Now, I do like the dub so far, but this is a discussion board after all; isn't complaining just a part of discussion? I mean, people on the sub board still complain...

silverwings
09-12-2005, 03:52 PM
What do you expect to accomplish by complaining?

You are going to get uncut subs in July. That's right, completely unedited and in Japanese and in that high-not-ripped-from-tv video quality!

If you don't like the dub, fine. No one is forcing you to watch it. If you don't like it, don't watch and just stick with your subs or buy the uncut subs when they're available.

stormbreak
09-12-2005, 03:59 PM
Or go back to a time where Naruto wasn't licensed, and animesuki put links to torrents to episodes. When that happens you won't know that Naruto had a dub;)

Naruto-USA
09-12-2005, 04:10 PM
I could imagine far worse things than what actually happened for this dub so im staying grateful.

trooper11
09-12-2005, 06:17 PM
I think its pretty unfair to attack those that truthfully think the dub doesnt stand up to the original and i think this forum is a perfect place to be discussing these things. if you dont like hearing negative opinions then just dont read them.

I do agree that there shouldnt be hundreds of posts about the same thing, but if there was one thread devoted tot he opions of the dub, then i think there is nothing wrong with that.

about the dub itself, I dont think it was the worst dub ever done, on the other hand its not the best done either. i can respect the work that goes into this, but im not goign to just give them a free ride and say it was great as it is now. i have my own opions aobut what went well and what didnt go well, but this thread is just about wether any complaints should be allowed.

there are real negatives that can be explored and i think those deserve space on this forum as much as your praise of it does. now the blatant flaming and name calling on both sides is ridiculous, but thats up to the moderators to deal with. yelling back and forth does nothing but make more of the same.

Megaharrison
09-12-2005, 06:23 PM
The dub could be a lot worse, hate letters are only suitable for 4kids. I find the dub to have more positives then negatives anyway.

T2004
09-12-2005, 06:28 PM
I think its pretty unfair to attack those that truthfully think the dub doesnt stand up to the original and i think this forum is a perfect place to be discussing these things. if you dont like hearing negative opinions then just dont read them.

I do agree that there shouldnt be hundreds of posts about the same thing, but if there was one thread devoted tot he opions of the dub, then i think there is nothing wrong with that.

about the dub itself, I dont think it was the worst dub ever done, on the other hand its not the best done either. i can respect the work that goes into this, but im not goign to just give them a free ride and say it was great as it is now. i have my own opions aobut what went well and what didnt go well, but this thread is just about wether any complaints should be allowed.

there are real negatives that can be explored and i think those deserve space on this forum as much as your praise of it does. now the blatant flaming and name calling on both sides is ridiculous, but thats up to the moderators to deal with. yelling back and forth does nothing but make more of the same.

Your right, but most people here DON'T debate or even discuss it. If you read any thread on the dub discussion, you'll find that every other post are from newbies who signed up just to bitch and say "it sucks" without a reason other than it's an English version. Complain to Viz, not bitch to us other fans just cause we think it's decent, or if you don't like it don't watch it.

trooper11
09-12-2005, 06:35 PM
well this could be easily rectified with a little consolidation of threads...

like i said, i dont think the dubbing was horrible, it just wasnt as good as it could have been. part of it is correctable by the VA, part of it is the 'americanizing' of the translation which cant be avoided.

TheMexicanKingVII
09-12-2005, 09:38 PM
I like to complain, and I understand people on here just don't like it. When you have the same reprative cliche post pointing out the same things that the same guy said 100 times before him, it gets annoying. Kind of like my own topic.