You think they will include the fillers in the dub?

[Darth Judicar]

As the topic asks, do you think Viz will include the filler episodes in the dub? I'd like to see them, as I haven't gotten to see any of them yet, though I'll probably see the subtitled versions of them eventually.

[martryn]

I can't see them not using the fillers. In the anime, they aren't fillers at all, but rather... part of the anime.

[DarkWarrior]

No, they don't see fillers as parts of the series even though they're numbered accordingly and so they won't bother showing them at all.

Or I'm being sarcastic.

[Procyon]

I can't see them not using the fillers. In the anime, they aren't fillers at all, but rather... part of the anime.

Yeah, that's pretty much the thing. One thing ya gotta deal with when the anime and manga are close to intersecting in Japan...

[lwong81]

yes, because some flashbacks contains filler.

[Ryoko]

I think they will.

[Tayuya (the banned one)]

^Hohohoho said mr. spoiler.

[Ryoko]

^Hohohoho said mr. spoiler.

Oh man. >< *goes to fix*

[Rudox]

Of course they will. More eps = more money. Even if they're horrible filler the new Naruto fans who don't know crap about the manga won't notice a difference.

[Kucheeky Badkuya]

Well, a lot of Naruto dub fans don't really know the essence of a filler and tehy will treat it like normal episode. Except they'll call teh episodes 'sucky epiosdes'. I personally won't have to worry about dub fillers, becasue I won't be watching the dub a lot. I think they f**ked up Kakashi's voice, <_<

[Nination]

Since when have they not included fillers in a dub? :P
LOL. They can't just skip 5 episodes after all.

[stormbreak]

Yeah it is just, there will be more episodes for them which equals in more money ;) Plus the viewers will think it is canon so it won't matter.

[Nination]

Yeah, you have to consider who they are targetting in the USA with Naruto. The recent almost "gay" string of spoilers leaves me to believe they were made for the USA. =S

[TheVileOne]

What kind of stupid thread is this? Why would they leave them out? Just because you don't like them?

[ColleenS]

Exactly.. There's no reason to leave them out. Why would they?? Just because its not canon, its still part of the show.

[TheVileOne]

Maybe not canon with the manga, but it is canon for the show.

And regardless of what the haterz say, important things relevant to the plot do happen in those storylines.

[Sharingan Yoda]

Considering how every other anime released with fillers also had fillers in them, I'd say they would.

Fillers aren't always bad. Remember the driving lesson episode of Dragon Ball Z?

[organizedcrime]

Err, no with Naruto, the fillers get pretty bad. Except thr mask one...

[Aeka]

They would be fools not to include Episode 101. Fools, I say.

[Enzain]

You cant just leave out episodes from a series :oh

[Axass]

You cant just leave out episodes from a series :oh
Unless you are working for 4Kids...

But yeah, the fillers will be there, no reason to cut them.

[Maleficent]

Of course they'll include the fillers. After all, they are a part of the anime as a whole [even though they don't make much sense sometimes], and it would be stupid to leave out perfectly good episodes just because it doesn't follow the manga exactly.

[icoselitham]

Hooray for fillers. I think our new american audiance of Naruto fans will be happy to know that there is going to be an episode each week for the next 150+ weeks.

[TheVileOne]

I dunno. Didn't they only order 52 episodes?

Show has to get ratings :) .

[Kool ka lang]

Well, by the looks of all the people that are here, there has to be AT LEAST 5,000 people watching....Can somebody post how many people watched Naruto on opening night??

[lidlesseye]

Why wouldn't they? More episodes = more opportunities to have people tuning in = more ratings = more money. It'd be stupid not to.

[onigiri-chan]

hmmm yea and more episodes = more DVD's to sell= more money
I cant see any reason why they wont... id you don't want them then do a little research to find out what eps are on what DVD's and not buy them

[TheVileOne]

There is no reason why they wouldn't other than whiney fanboys and otaku who don't like them. Which as a matter of fact is not a real reason at all.

[X3x3non]

Why is there even a discussion about this, of course they will, why would they not use material of a franchise that will make them millions of dollars. They will milk every second of it, and i can't blame em for it.

[Phancy Pants]

It's been said before and I'm gonna say it again, they will definatly include fillers, but maybe at different intervals. Actually, now that I think about it, I can't remember fillers in any other dubbed manga I've seen.

[genesisofire]

I'm pretty sure they will, filler or not, it's still part of the anime. Also, some fillers connect the main storyline and it would be mess things up if they skipped them.

[BattousaiMS]

I hope they wont! Those fillers are mostly annoying then anything up till now. However, you never know what dubbers have in mind...

[CrazyMoronX]

Of course they will show the fillers, why wouldn't they?

More shows = more airtime = commercials = more money = more merchandise = more money = more merchandise = more money.

Basically, the more they have the more they make.

[Crush!]

They paid for them, of course they're going to show them.

"Hey! We paid $50,000 per episode for this show, but episodes 137-164 suck ass! Let's just throw 'em out"

Yeah, that makes sense.

[SarcasticIrony]

It would suck if they didn't have the fillers, then the dubbers wouldnt be able to join in on making fun of them :( besides, a few funny ones are mixed in.

[Blue_Devil]

Stop saying about more money.Maybe yu don't know how animes are licenced.Naruto was only licenced till episode 52 i think or 60.For each episode they gave A 6-DIGIT NUMBER so they wil have to make a good decicion if they are going to include fillers.I think they will be included

[Crush!]

Stop saying about more money.Maybe yu don't know how animes are licenced.Naruto was only licenced till episode 52 i think or 60.For each episode they gave A 6-DIGIT NUMBER so they wil have to make a good decicion if they are going to include fillers.I think they will be included

Um, no. Who started this stupid rumor? Viz has ALL of Naruto. They said so themselves.

It's Cartoon Network who only bought the first 52 episodes to air.

[shadowfoxyuri]

yeah, theyre gonna dub all the jap. eps, so were gonna c the fillers, and everything.

[Lost profit]

Well Viz have a very uncanny grasp of the market. Always have. If they think they'll sell more by leaving out the filler, they'll leave it out.

And bring out a 'lost episodes' set! Muahahahaha!!

But nah, they probably wont leave it out.

[Jiraiya Sennin]

I cant see them skipping around eps that are the fillers. Some like the fillers and to some if they dropped them some would be slightly confused... I say the fillers will stay.

[Sonic4390]

You cant just leave out episodes from a series :oh

no you cant. believe it. ^^

[DeathIsComing]

we all know they'll include the fillers.

[Throes]

I laugh at the fact that anyone thought fillers were going to be cut in the first place!

[Cougar-kun]

They better not take out the fillers.

[Splyte]

no lol they wont be cut more then likely those aswell as the reg. eps will be spammed like hell, forgive me is they already r i live in canada and naruto hasnt premiered yet

[mUcHo LoCo]

if its in the english anime, and the japanese ones have already come out, y do they need fillers? viz doesnt need to stall for time while kishi draws it out so y dont they just stick to the storyline and skip translating the fillers?

[Kromagnum]

It would be nice for them to skip the fillers, but I'm betting they'll show every episode.

[shadowkittyninja]

It wouldnt make much sense if VIZ cut out the fillers and the episode would be shortened drastically. Even though fillers are annoying, its still part of the 30 minute episode.

[Kromagnum]

It wouldnt make much sense if VIZ cut out the fillers and the episode would be shortened drastically. Even though fillers are annoying, its still part of the 30 minute episode.

o_O;; The original poster is referring to entire filler episodes/arcs, not portions of an episode.

[mUcHo LoCo]

ya i mean like a small series of episodes, they could just take em out... like 15 fewer eps wouldnt make much of a difference and theyre all pointless towards the plot

[Axass]

if its in the english anime, and the japanese ones have already come out, y do they need fillers? viz doesnt need to stall for time while kishi draws it out so y dont they just stick to the storyline and skip translating the fillers?
Because with more episodes they make more money. And people who never read the manga won't notice the difference anyway.

[Ryoko]

The fillers are technically part of the anime, so they have to show those.

[T2004]

I don't see them skipping any eps, as Axess said, more eps, more money. The fillers are part of the overall anime, and since they are not as bad as DB GT's first 16 or so eps, i don't see a reason for them to skip them.

Naruto being a very long series, i see them in the future showing a new ep Mon-thurs or something like they did with DBZ. So instead of waiting every week like we're doing, they'll just blast through the fillers pretty quickly

[Jounin-Kakashi]

{Wrong section, you should post in the naruto jap anime section}

But yea, why those crappy fillers? I hate them soooo much.:notrust Ah, but still its still naruto right?.....Am I right??!!

[creativerealms]

While I would not mind those episodes being cut personally I would love a lot of my right to defend the dub if Viz did something like this. Filler or not I stand up agianst cut episodes in any anime and I would be contradicting myself if I would continue to defend a show that did just that. At least it will be a while before the dub reaches the filler hell the Japanese version currently is in.

[Svenjamin]

people who never read the manga won't notice the difference anyway.
Unfortunately they will :(

They will wonder why the episodes have gotten really crap
My suggestion would be to skip the fillers, and release them seperately as "lost Episodes" much like with what happened to DragonballGT

[T2004]

Unfortunately they will :(

They will wonder why the episodes have gotten really crap
My suggestion would be to skip the fillers, and release them seperately as "lost Episodes" much like with what happened to DragonballGT

Actually, most people won't notice, lol. Since the anime will be ahead the manga here in the US, people won't tell the difference because they won't know for sure. I think it's actually better that way, as most people won't see the flaws of filler until they actually know it's filler.

[mUcHo LoCo]

Actually, most people won't notice, lol. Since the anime will be ahead the manga here in the US, people won't tell the difference because they won't know for sure. I think it's actually better that way, as most people won't see the flaws of filler until they actually know it's filler.

hmm ya like in one piece in english passed the manga really quickly, but i still hate fillers ><

[FEFFRock]

They probably have to buy the fillers along with the normal episodes anyways.

[Tex]

i hate fillers but if its naruto i'll whatch it

[-bill-]

I havnt watched all the subs yet but ive red all the manga: And im a bit confused about these *Fillers* when do they happen? and WHAT happens in them? Like SOMETHING must happen? Do we learn anything cool or importatn? Can Someone (lame joke coming up) ~Fill~ me in? HAr haw

[Ryoko]

I havnt watched all the subs yet but ive red all the manga: And im a bit confused about these *Fillers* when do they happen? and WHAT happens in them? Like SOMETHING must happen? Do we learn anything cool or importatn? Can Someone (lame joke coming up) ~Fill~ me in? HAr haw

There comes a point in the anime when it was catching up to the manga too fast, and they can't have that because they base the anime off of the manga. So to let the manga go ahead so the anime doesn't catch up, they put in fillers. Fillers are there just so there's something there. Fillers aren't cool or important. They're mostly just random missions Naruto goes on.

[-bill-]

There comes a point in the anime when it was catching up to the manga too fast, and they can't have that because they base the anime off of the manga. So to let the manga go ahead so the anime doesn't catch up, they put in fillers. Fillers are there just so there's something there. Fillers aren't cool or important. They're mostly just random missions Naruto goes on.



k thanksman. But at what point in time do the fillers occur , cuz whjywould he be like Omgz sasukes Gone mental.. Hmm lets pick up trash in teh river!?!111

[uncanny_sama]

they dont care about that
all they want is money
more episodes=more money

and besides
when that time comes for you CN watchers to see the fillers (in about 2 years)

they probably show them 3x a week or something

[Leen]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is what they are thinking of.

For anime only watchers, they will never find out the differences anyway. *shrugs*

The only risk that the production company is taking right now IF they decide to go on with fillers is the rating and the number of viewers. Fillers can be good as in they bring in money every week but what if suddenly the viewers find Naruto (fillers but of course they dont know it's just fillers) boring, then they might stop watching Naruto. Then the loss will be even greater than the profit they made while making a filler. Then again, viewers come and go. New Naruto fans will still come in and fill in the empty slots. After considering, fillers are still good money. So, there will still be fillers.

[jv2k]

They have to translate the fillers because they want to stay true to the anime(and money). I bet if they cut it out we'd get 100 new threads in the dub complaints about it "OMG liek they cut out the filler the dub sux!"

[Leen]

They have to translate the fillers because they want to stay true to the anime(and money). I bet if they cut it out we'd get 100 new threads in the dub complaints about it "OMG liek they cut out the filler the dub sux!"

No, I disagree. In fact, I think that skipping the fillers might even make people rate dub higher since almost everyone if not everyone hates fillers including me. I have given up watching fillers after some unbearable weeks. :S People might see dub as trying to hard but once the fillers are cut away, the whole "trying too hard" thing will be gone, since they dont even include fillers and skip them. That's why I think that skipping fillers will be a good move for the dubbed in terms of reputations and ratings but not money-wise. Money-wise, fillers are good.

[NarutoFan5]

I think it would be great for them to skip the fillers, but I really don't think that it will happen.

[AngstyUchiha]

They have to translate the fillers because they want to stay true to the anime(and money). I bet if they cut it out we'd get 100 new threads in the dub complaints about it "OMG liek they cut out the filler the dub sux!"

Cartoon Network dosn't give a rat's ass about about being true to the anime. If they did then they wouldn't have edited out the cursing and violence. Plus, I was told that they took out an entire good arc of Kenshin because of stupid reasons. Your right on the $$ part though.

If CN is smart (which I doubt) then they won't show the fillers. It makes Naruto crappier. Which means less people will be interested in it.

[jv2k]

Cartoon Network dosn't give a rat's ass about about being true to the anime. If they did then they wouldn't have edited out the cursing and violence. Plus, I was told that they took out an entire good arc of Kenshin because of stupid reasons. Your right on the $$ part though.

If CN is smart (which I doubt) then they won't show the fillers. It makes Naruto crappier. Which means less people will be interested in it.
First off they barely edited anything on naruto, the edits that were done needed to be done in order to market the show toits target audience an play on toonami.
Second CN had nothing to do with keeping the anime true to the original, viz did.

[lollerskater]

I think the best thing they could do is skip the fillers when they air the show in its primetime slot. Then they could place all the filler episodes in its own seperate show called "Naruto Sidestory" or whatever and put in a different timeslot that they show everyday.

[gamecity]

Well if they don't show any fillers then CN won't air Kakashi's Mask episode. That would be a big crime to naruto fans and anime lovers out there.

[BluebrotherX7]

Cartoon Network dosn't give a rat's ass about about being true to the anime. If they did then they wouldn't have edited out the cursing and violence. Plus, I was told that they took out an entire good arc of Kenshin because of stupid reasons. Your right on the $$ part though.

If CN is smart (which I doubt) then they won't show the fillers. It makes Naruto crappier. Which means less people will be interested in it.

I am sick and tired about the "cursing" in Naruto. Don't you know that the Japanese language doesn't have any curse words? And the few words in the japanese language that are starting to turn into curse words are nowhere near the caliber of our profanity. There was the segment on 20/20 last which showed a young girl mixing OUR curse words with her native language. (Of course it was bleeped)

The profaninty you read in the fansubs were inserted by English speaking fansub, not part of the original dialogue. Do acually believe that Naruto will say the f-word on US television? They don't even have the f-word on Adult Swim. Naruto would have to air on HBO in order to fufill your weekly allowment of verbal profanity. And not many people have HBO.

Curse words are not needed to prove a point. If fact, sometimes curse words take away from the dialogue and focuses it on that word. Not every show has to be Jay and Silent Bob and inserts a curse word as every noun, verb, adjective, pronoun, adverb and conjuction in every sentence.

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As for the fillers, while they could do away with them in the dub, i prefer not, cause then new fans would have a chance to grow on them. Maybe they air two a week just to speed up through them. Plus it gives the dub a chance to improve on what they done. I mean about it, the right dub could make any bad episodes seem good. Naruto can be one of these dubs.

Plus "Kakashi's Mask" has to dubbed, I imagine Higgins, Flanagan, Lowenthal will love doing it.

[creativerealms]

Too much blood takes away from a scene too. In fact I love the level of blood that is left in the dub. It is a very believeable amount. One of my biggest problems with anime in general is the over use of blood. Blood is perfect when just enough is used, too much and too little removes abit of the impact from the scene while just enough ads to it.

Viz does care about the Naruto dub the thing is they want to air it for the correct age group. Saddly airing it for the correct age group in America means it needs to be toned down a little. However Naruto is also the least edited anime on Toonami and has the potential to allow future shows to be less edited as well. People should stop complaining about what is edited and focus more on what is not.

Oh that Kenshin was crap, the worst in the series. And I believe Cartoon Network did not even get the rights to air it. That's the best reason in the world, not being able to air it.

[ai_love_gaara]

I havnt watched all the subs yet but ive red all the manga: And im a bit confused about these *Fillers* when do they happen? and WHAT happens in them? Like SOMETHING must happen? Do we learn anything cool or importatn? Can Someone (lame joke coming up) ~Fill~ me in? HAr haw


they are episodes in the anime that never happened in the manga, and ANYTHING can happen in fillers.^^ they happen most of the time when the anime has caught up with the manga and they need time for the manga to advance, in this case, thats why theres a thread about fillers because the sub is currently showing them because of this reason.

u know wot? i reckon (hope) they'll skip the fillers.
1. theres no use for the audience to wait a whole week in between episodes to watch them, and
2. the fillers, being so many episodes, are like an arc or a season, and there are HEAPS of dubs out there that delete seasons (think of Yugioh & cardcaptor sakura), let alone just random episodes for no reason.
3. dont they have to buy those episodes?

if they do delete them, the americans are lucky, they sorta then are just watching the manga in anime version. but the only problem, some things that occur in the fillers are actually part of the manga (*cant write them here spoilers*)
about sakura and tsunade

[Zhero]

I was jus thinking that, I mean watching the american dude, we are a few 100 episodes behind but will we go through the fillers...just like the original dub did.

[Blue]

If they did skip the fillers, they'd have to stop pretending that the fillers are genuine Naruto. Which isn't something they'd do.

EDIT: It made me the first post. Hopefully it's fixed now.

[konman83]

Of course, why wouldn't it?

[Zhero]

I dont know, I was jus thinking ....it was a question that needed answering

[neosildrake]

they will. it's probably part of the deal. can't you believe it? there're are actually people who would complain if they skip the fillers! It's not that they are very good, but they are part of the anime, hate it or like it. Of course noone will be forced to watch them, but aired they will be...
...even if only for the fact, that the company makes money with them.

[Megaharrison]

It would be a wise decision to do so...The dub is so far behind they can go at any pace they want essentially and not catch up for a looooong time. The only purpose of the fillers is to buy time for the manga to get more ahead.

I actually suspect they will skip the fillers then show nearly a years worth of garbage.

[GSurge]

Other animes have dubbed filler in the past. I don't see why they wouldn't

[Zhero]

if the point of fillers are to let the manga get ahead, then why would we as dub watchers need to wait...it would be better than to show a years worth of fillers if u can jus get to it. I wouldnt disagree if the fillers did or didnt show

[TenshiOni]

I'm sure they will.

Moving this to TV.

[Crush!]

You know Viz is paying like $50,000 per episode for this show, right? TV Tokyo isn't going to Not let them pay for the fillers. Damn right they're gonna show them.

[AngstyUchiha]

Well, the dub sucks, and CN sucks, so I can only image that they'd play the suckiest episodes ever.

[Crush!]

Well, the dub sucks, and CN sucks, so I can only image that they'd play the suckiest episodes ever.

God you're a moron.

[lollerskater]

I think the best thing they could do (at least for fans) is skip the fillers when naruto airs on it's main timeslot, but air them in a different timeslot as a sidestory or whatever.

Of course thats probably not going to happen.

[Mr. Toon]

Yes they will show the filler episodes. At the end of the day its money for them.

[T2004]

Why wouldn't they show the filler? This is kind of a dumb question. Despite what people may think about the filler, it IS part of the Naruto anime, so get over it people. This is as stupid as the dub bashers constant complaining on a GOOD dub.

[Reznor]

Well, Funimation skipped the first 16 episodes of DBGT then later realeased them as "The Lost Episodes"

If I were them, I'd just pick up the pace during filler season.
Or maybe just release each filler arc as a special (smoosh them into a hour-and-a-half thingy)

[vana65]

Why wouldn't they show the filler? ... Despite what people may think about the filler, it IS part of the Naruto anime, so get over it people.

Exactly. The fillers may not be part of the manga but they are part of the anime. I do not find the fillers to be all that interesting but I think I would be annoyed if I didn't get the choice to see them. Besides, if you haven't read the manga and don't interact on forums (are bound to be US viewers who don't), then you probably won't think much about the fillers anyway... they'll just be another part of the anime.

Can't see why the wouldn't show the fillers.

[vick86]

The biggest problem with the fillers is that we know they are fillers and that it is simply a matter of time before they end but the dubwatchers don't know about the fillers and will simply believe that naruto has gone downhill and stop watching it without knowing that the best is yet to come.

I feel sorry for the dubwatchers.

[Axass]

I present you the "Will the fillers be in the dub?" thread: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=57734

Merging there.

As for the question, I already mentioned in the other thread that they'll show them, too much money involved. If they were 3-4 episodes there would've been a chance, but we've got around 50 filler episodes, that's a whole year of money for them.

[Stilgar]

I hope for the sake of ratings(and our sanity) they save fillers for DvD release only. I mean...Tony the Tiger...wtf :notrust

[Zouri84]

They left the filler stuff in for the dubbed Inuyasha so I'd imagine they will show the filler episodes for Naruto too.

[UchihaShikamaru]

Well seeing as how the next dubbed episode, the Special Report from the Forest of Death, is in fact a filler, its just a recap and explanation of preveious events, I think we can ascertain that they will in fact show the fillers.

[FitzChivalry]

I don't think there's any question that they will.

[Sabakumike]

They probably will as mentioned above for the money but i hope they don't show them especially the first proper filler episodes 100-106 i think, which was so boring

[Temari Desert Lily]

Knowing Cartoon Network they will show everything. Since Naruto has been a huge draw to the channel.

[Neji]

sadly to say....im sure they will because they americanized naruto was made into somewhat more of a comedy is takes it less serious and makes naruto look 10x stupider that he already is....but they dont have to since, they're like 150 episodes/5 years behind

[Zhero]

Yea, dub watchers we wont catch up to the Original, the only way we would if they made naruto come on everyday.

[Aman]

They are dubbing the anime and the fillers is a part of the anime.

[Solo Styles]

Sabakumike - Be easy w/that picture. Atleast Spoiler-ize it. If the dubb makes it that far(i dnt think so), theyll prob include fillers. More shows = more viewers=higher ratings=more Viz/Cartoonnetwork $$$

[son_michael]

they will DEFFINETLEY show every episode thats part of the anime, the fact that there showing episode 25 is proof of that

and imo it isn't a bad thing, some of the fillers are great like the kakashi mask ep:)

[Sabakumike]

Im sure every1 has read all the chapters so far so im sure my pic wont spoial anything.

Knowing cartoon network as only 52 epsiodes have been doen they proabably show 52 episodes then give it a rest for 2-3months before showing the next 52 episodes

[Volken]

They probably will since some episodes like the preceding episode to the rooftop fight have a flashback to the fillers.

Did they show the filler where they were missing the tape for the epsiode? If they did, they're definitely going to show the fillers.

[brandcolt]

They will show the fillers but with that being said....all you people who say "why wouldn't they? blah blah blah.." The answer is simple, because the episodes are fucking awful. Like pathetically bad, makes you want to cut your eyes out when you watch them. There is no character development and all the main points of the story are just randomly put on hold.

When they show the fillers a lot of people will stop caring if they miss the show or not, then eventually it will become just that one show they will catch if they can. I have about 10 friends who watch the dubs and NOT ONE of them watch the show anymore because they hate the fillers. Mind you 7 of them don't read the manga either and they still think the fillers are shit. That just goes to show you....

[Kakashi_owns]

well i think they'll keep them in there...well if they licence the rest of the series past 52. I think they'll keep them because they did show episode 26 which is complete filler and sort of a waste of time. It would have been nice for them to skip that ep but i guess they like to keep the series nice and long like inuyasha.