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blind51de
09-10-2005, 11:14 PM
Ought to be a crime to deprive audiences of Wind. ENGRISH OR NOT.

PeachGummi
09-10-2005, 11:16 PM
the opening and ending theme....shouldn't even be called music!! I was so sad that they didn't put in Wind. I frickin LOVE that song!!!!!! I'm, very sad now.

Iron Spatula
09-10-2005, 11:19 PM
If they put in the original opening and closing songs, they'll have to pay royalties. Plus, I don't think they have enough time for 2+ minute opening/endings.

PeachGummi
09-10-2005, 11:20 PM
But the "Songs" they did put in...it's just...sad! And they took chunks from other openings and put it in! XD

Fire101
09-10-2005, 11:23 PM
Yeah, that was disappointing.

kakoishii
09-10-2005, 11:24 PM
I hate to complain, but I have to agree they sliced up parts of the season 1&2 openings slapped together to some music and called it an op very sad indeed. I was flaberghasted when I learned that Wind was cut entirely too at least they could have pulled a Champloo and show parts of it you know. When at least we didn't have to sit through a dubbed ninja rap in the opening we should all at least be greatful for that.

blind51de
09-10-2005, 11:30 PM
I don't know about CN (cuz Canada bans it, lolz), but Gundam Seed/Inuyasha/and HACK (I think) all pretty much have their Japanese OP/ED's on YTV. Which is why I make this topic...

PeachGummi
09-10-2005, 11:32 PM
I'm so upset tonight. ;____;

Kira Yamato
09-10-2005, 11:32 PM
Ought to be a crime to deprive audiences of Wind. ENGRISH OR NOT.


I doubt it... had a feeling they'd piece together the OP and ED -__-

And It's not CN fault but most likely the Viz...

But that's some wishful thinking :laugh

Core
09-10-2005, 11:34 PM
Yes, it's a shame. But then I can listen to that music whenever I want...... Infact, I am now.

TheVileOne
09-10-2005, 11:36 PM
If they make a broadcast deal with the bands who do the music, they will.

Q
09-10-2005, 11:45 PM
But the "Songs" they did put in...it's just...sad! And they took chunks from other openings and put it in! XD
Considering they made a new O/E, they weren't all that bad. Not at all.
I actually liked them.

AdreneLyne
09-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Wtf? I don't get what you guys are saying. So there is infact, a new OPENING and ENDING theme? So not being clear here guys..

I'm in Canada, so I'm talking about the YTV one. I think it will show on Bionix (considering it's showing late Friday night).

Haruka
09-10-2005, 11:59 PM
I was disappointed that atleast Wind wasn't on there.
Wind makes a very good ending theme for the first Arc.

Tazmo
09-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Canada has to air the exact same episodes that the USA has, as they are obligated to in the contract. They will not air uncut episodes, they will not have different themes. I suspect licensing issues with Sony Music Japan being behind the no ROCKS or Wind themes. They got two veteran experienced composers for the music to replace those, which can't REALLY be that bad of a thing.

MechaTC
09-11-2005, 12:00 AM
I don't know about CN (cuz Canada bans it, lolz), but Gundam Seed/Inuyasha/and HACK (I think) all pretty much have their Japanese OP/ED's on YTV. Which is why I make this topic...
surprise surprise, but cartoon network/adult swim also has the official openings and closings for these animes. the opening and closing will be the same as it is in the U.S.

blind51de
09-11-2005, 12:07 AM
Ah, now THAT makes sense. I don't hear much about that, so it's nice to know. I guess this topic can get locked.

And Tazmo, if you're reading this. Please don't put the dub episodes up for download.

Wrathlegendz
09-11-2005, 12:10 AM
That O/E was just sad no matter how you put it that was just wrong I can't Believe they did a brand new O/E I bet they do that for every season its on I pray that it doesn't make it past season 1 oh how I pray it doesn't cause all the O/E were classic they fit the arcs perfectly and this crap they have now is just :sad

kapsi
09-11-2005, 06:22 AM
So what there is? 'Don't give it up Naruto?'

Hyuuga Kiri
09-11-2005, 06:32 AM
I don't know about CN (cuz Canada bans it, lolz), but Gundam Seed/Inuyasha/and HACK (I think) all pretty much have their Japanese OP/ED's on YTV. Which is why I make this topic...
I don't know aboot Gundam seed, but Inuyasha and .Hack where the original OP's

Phancy Pants
09-11-2005, 08:55 AM
Yeah I thought the start was bad, but the ending was even worse. A monkey with a computer and a bottle of Jim beam could do better.

9TalesOfDestruction
09-11-2005, 10:21 AM
If they put in the original opening and closing songs, they'll have to pay royalties. Plus, I don't think they have enough time for 2+ minute opening/endings.
yeah, and i heard they spent multiple millions to license this show alone....

I thought the themes were fine, they weren't so over the top just kinda blended in with the show.

Add some japanese group over it, and it would fit right in with some of the later themes. "God i hated that 'fighting' opening theme"

It's not One Peice or Dragon ball z.....thank god

faux_fox
09-11-2005, 06:51 PM
And the music... Why couldn't they just use one of the background music tracks? I would have rather heared that instead of the music they made up. Also, Gundam Seed had the origional opening to that as well. VIZ Has a good record on that type of stuff.

RadishMan
09-11-2005, 07:09 PM
I LIKED(~!) the opening they did use. And the praise for Rocks/Wind have prompted me to download the songs.

Umm okay...

Don't care for Rocks and Wind is on the borderline okay/might like after 10 loops.

Sorry but they did nothing for me. Meh.

Ryu Kazama
09-11-2005, 07:41 PM
They took me a little while to get used to and now I really like those songs. At first, with Rocks I was like "What is this...music?!" and then I was like "catchy!"

I prefer "GO!!" Such a fun song!

Tayuya (the banned one)
09-11-2005, 08:12 PM
5th opening song > Life.

Hopefully they will change the openings to fit the current arc each season.

lonlon_malon
09-11-2005, 09:19 PM
Was it that hard to get a song that goes along with the beat to the opening and play that instead? D: I mean, I don't mind the song. I hate hate hate the horrible video part that goes along with it. Ugh.

The Gundam Seed opening was a sort of....remix of the first Japanese opening. I suppose they couldn't include the borderline nudity in a lot of the opening. x_X The endings were left intact however. I love that first ending...

AstralSky
09-11-2005, 09:40 PM
The Sambomaster OP was my favorite. I hope Viz is at least TRYING to get the licenses. I mean, if they got them for Seed, then they should be able to get them for Naruto.

Pepperidge
09-12-2005, 12:20 AM
Canada has to air the exact same episodes that the USA has, as they are obligated to in the contract. They will not air uncut episodes, they will not have different themes. I suspect licensing issues with Sony Music Japan being behind the no ROCKS or Wind themes. They got two veteran experienced composers for the music to replace those, which can't REALLY be that bad of a thing.

And you've read this contract?

I'm incredibly dissapointed by Viz's decision to replace the opening and ending themes in Naruto, and I'll be devestated if they don't air in Canada, since original opening and ending themes are basically the norm on YTV's Bionix block.

But sadly, all signs point to us getting the same version as the US.

explicitkarma
09-12-2005, 12:28 AM
5th opening song > Life.

Hopefully they will change the openings to fit the current arc each season.

I totally concur.


So, unless they fix the licensing on the songs, I shouldn't hope to hear the original openings/closings on the DVD's when they're released. :(

TheVileOne
09-12-2005, 03:43 AM
If you guys want to see the original openings and endings so bad,

YOU ARE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET!

Its not hard folks. You have a mouse. CLICK IT BITCHES!

Kamzy
09-12-2005, 04:27 AM
They butchered the intro and outro

Ill never forgive them for taking away "wind” its even sung in bloody English >_>
Seriously! if I was someone who saw that for the first time, I would need 10 minutes to realise what the hell was going on, random confusing intro, they spanned over 80 episodes in to a 20 second video clip.

Mister Bushido
09-12-2005, 10:06 AM
LOL, it totally reminded me of when I first saw DBZ dubbed way back in the mid 90s and they had the whole rock opening. Needless to say, I laughed my ass off listening to the Naruto opening as well.

At least the dub anime itself hasn't taken the same direction. *phew*

JAPPO
09-12-2005, 01:10 PM
LOL, it totally reminded me of when I first saw DBZ dubbed way back in the mid 90s and they had the whole rock opening. Needless to say, I laughed my ass off listening to the Naruto opening as well.

At least the dub anime itself hasn't taken the same direction. *phew*
Yeah another reason why its screwed

RadishMan
09-12-2005, 02:57 PM
Well I still don't really care for Rocks, but I really do hafta say Wind is a great song. I'm not concerned though. I'm listening to it right now. That opening is friggin' kick ass imo, like it or not.

hakke
09-12-2005, 03:31 PM
to those still whinning about the OP/ED missing...

Imagine next broadcast has the original OP/ED unedited...

The show will be EXACTLY AS GOOD/CRAPPY AS YOU THINK OF IT NOW. You wont see or stop watching the show because of the intro.

"Oh my, The show has ROCKS... I have to wait a whole week to see the intro then turn off the TV because the show is crappy"

or surely during the show... good or not "gosh I wish I was watching the intro right now..."

You guys crack em up...

Shadow Dragon Boss
09-12-2005, 09:13 PM
I am also hoping that YTV is going to keep the original theme songs, like they did with Inu Yasha and .hack//sign. I really like the japanese themes 100x better! Even if 'Wind' is sung in engrish. Engrish is fun!! Really hope they can keep the original themes on YTV. It's just wishful thinking of mine I guess. I don't think YTV has the power to change the new theme back to the original themes, but we can still hope...I just have to keep reminding myself that the dubbed theme could've come out alot worse...

What the lyrics could've been like:
*insert cheesy action music*
"Naruto! We aspire to become ninja! Hoo wah!
Naruto! We move by stealth and find the hidden meanings within the hidden meanings!
Naruto! Hwaa! Ninja power!!"

Oh god...*shudders*

lonlon_malon
09-12-2005, 09:57 PM
Yup, it could have been much, much worse. Although I have to wait to see the episode, it seems very little was cut (although the lack of drippy blood makes me nervous for later), and the voice actors seem to be decent. I'm glad they didn't turn this into another Yu-Gi-Oh or Sailor Moon or Tokyo Mew Mew death. Why is it only anime that is taken and butchered to suit the dubbing company's wishes? D:

shadowfoxyuri
09-12-2005, 11:36 PM
the dubbed version will b the same 1 shown on toonami, so ur gettin the same opening and ending theme song as we have 2 listen 2, no wind, or rocks sry, but thats the way it is.

shikon
09-13-2005, 12:54 AM
actually, the two themes for dubbed naruto seems more like a music video of the two beginnings ( i only saw the beggining)
hm.. but if both ytv and toonami spent so much money on naruto.. why did they mess the themes?
i dun think ytv will do the same... since they didnt touch the themes for their other animes... plus they spent a lot on getting naruto... i doubt they mess it up..
..... hopefully...

Shade
09-13-2005, 06:56 PM
I just can't imagine Inuyasha's Jap. OP/Ed, Gundam SEED Jap. OP/ED then some weird ?rock? music for a show that I had been waiting to be broadcasted in Canada for so long.

DeathIsComing
09-13-2005, 10:54 PM
most likely they will.

genesisofire
09-13-2005, 11:10 PM
I was really disappointed they didn't have Wind either. Wind was one of those endings that made you download the next episode. I could stand Rocks being cut off, but I was pretty angry once they cut out Wind.

Pray hard if you really want it. Sorry to break it to you, but I don't think it will get wind. YTV or Cartoon Network, it was done by Viz and Viz changed both openings and endings. I hope they took them out was simply because of licensing issues, but if I ever find out that they did it just to Americanize it, than shame on them. I just hate it when people think that Americanizing always makes things better. That's why some these kids still think that Japan is a city in China.




to those still whinning about the OP/ED missing...

Imagine next broadcast has the original OP/ED unedited...

The show will be EXACTLY AS GOOD/CRAPPY AS YOU THINK OF IT NOW. You wont see or stop watching the show because of the intro.

"Oh my, The show has ROCKS... I have to wait a whole week to see the intro then turn off the TV because the show is crappy"

or surely during the show... good or not "gosh I wish I was watching the intro right now..."

You guys crack em up...


Um...no. Not me anyways. If they did put the original introduction and ending, that would bring the dub much higher on my list and that much closer for me to liking it.

Dark Schneider
09-14-2005, 01:06 AM
We can speculate all we want-but only time will tell...so the premiere is this friday eh?

( Yes I do live in Canada :D)

n8dogg
09-14-2005, 02:12 AM
Yes, "engrish" is fun and okay, but GOD FORBID that the stupid American actors BUTCHER the japanese words!!

Remember kids, it's okay if foreigners can't speak English properly, they can't help it. We all know that American actors HAVE to be COMPLETELY fluent with EVERY SINGLE LANGUAGE IN EXISTANCE!!

PS. I hated ROCKS anyway. Haruka Kanata kicked much more ass.

Oshio
09-14-2005, 02:36 AM
i forgot. are we in jap or over here? oh yea! over here. I see no point for them to puts rocks. NO REASON!

Wrathlegendz
09-14-2005, 04:29 AM
i forgot. are we in jap or over here? oh yea! over here. I see no point for them to puts rocks. NO REASON!

And I see no reason for you to post anything ever again because your a retard what the hell does being over here have to do with anything alot of animes from Jap still have there Org. music so why wouldn't they do the same for a series thats as popular as this one.

genesisofire
09-14-2005, 02:51 PM
i forgot. are we in jap or over here? oh yea! over here. I see no point for them to puts rocks. NO REASON!



Yeah NO REASON! The only country that actually exists is America! If any other culture is even slightly introduced to the states, they shall be burned! NO REASON to put rocks because it was sung by a yellow person that grew up somewhere else! I see NO REASON!

n8dogg
09-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Yeah NO REASON! The only country that actually exists is America! If any other culture is even slightly introduced to the states, they shall be burned! NO REASON to put rocks because it was sung by a yellow person that grew up somewhere else! I see NO REASON!

Okay, yeah guys, argue with the idiot who can't type and avoid responding to a person who actually said something significant.

It's really great when you use sarcasm to argue against someone who probably doesn't even understand what sarcasm is. You, good sir, are a master debater.

~RAGING BONER~
09-14-2005, 08:12 PM
I'm PRAYING that YTV's version will have ROCKS/Wind
Ought to be a crime to deprive audiences of Wind. ENGRISH OR NOT.
not even your God has the power to effect THAT kind of change.

Shadow Dragon Boss
09-14-2005, 08:16 PM
Personally, I really liked the 1st opening rocks. To me, it seemed to put the spirit and adventure into Naruto. The opening theme clung to me when I first watched it. It seemed to make the show and characters come alive. (um...if you know what i'm talking about. ^^; ) Anyways, it'll be really sad to see rocks and wind go...though i'm still looking forward to seeing what english Naruto is like.

Another disturbing/amusing thought for the opening. What if they tried playing "Ninja of the Night" for the theme song? XD

CBVicious
09-14-2005, 10:02 PM
I would have at least liked Rocks in the first ep. How can Inuyasha have the eds and not Naruto?

n8dogg
09-15-2005, 10:26 PM
Personally, I really liked the 1st opening rocks. To me, it seemed to put the spirit and adventure into Naruto. The opening theme clung to me when I first watched it. It seemed to make the show and characters come alive. (um...if you know what i'm talking about. ^^; ) Anyways, it'll be really sad to see rocks and wind go...though i'm still looking forward to seeing what english Naruto is like.


I'm going to have to disagree with you on there. I thought ROCKS wasn't a very invigorating song... in fact, compared to the other more peppy tunes, it was downright sluggish! I see no spirit or adventure in there.

No, Haruka Kanata should have been the ONLY opening.

Jh1stgen
09-15-2005, 10:29 PM
Yeah ... Im looking forward for it 2morrow (fri) ...

genesisofire
09-15-2005, 11:44 PM
Okay, yeah guys, argue with the idiot who can't type and avoid responding to a person who actually said something significant.


Well, judging from this thread ( http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=58140&page=30) and post number 591 (referring to the second part), you seem have done the same thing I did--argue with an idiot who can't type and avoid responding to a person who said something significant. I do agree with many things you said in that post, but don't bash me for doing something you do as well. Ok?

Shadow Dragon Boss
09-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with you on there. I thought ROCKS wasn't a very invigorating song... in fact, compared to the other more peppy tunes, it was downright sluggish! I see no spirit or adventure in there.

No, Haruka Kanata should have been the ONLY opening.

Alright, whatever floats your boat. ^_^ I still think "Rocks" was a pretty cool song for Naruto.

ph0921
09-16-2005, 11:56 AM
oh i agree wind is so good except i dont like his voice so much its more about the instrumental

genesisofire
09-16-2005, 01:41 PM
oh i agree wind is so good except i dont like his voice so much its more about the instrumental



Yeah, you can't say that his voice is anything spectacular, but I liked it because of the visual effects. It showed you what Naruto's childhood was like and it fit with that part of the series. It was beautiful with the butterfly, and his new friends helping him in the end. The music put everything together.

blind51de
09-16-2005, 11:07 PM
Starting in an hour and a half or so. Someone update with the obvious bad news when it goes on the air.

Fatal-Aroma
09-16-2005, 11:21 PM
It came with the crap op/ed's... :(

blind51de
09-16-2005, 11:42 PM
I see.

Well, it was a longshot anyway. But at least YTV has it, in the end.

BattousaiMS
09-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Watch the first dubbed episode tonight and here is what I got to say:

Naruto's voice wasn't that bad, but looked a bit too broken for his age. They removed the nose bleeding part :crying (oh well that one was somewhat expected damn American TV rating system and their lame laws). They made a few errors including the most notciable one by me: The guy calling the Scroll of the Forbidden Seals having containing the jutsus of the First Hokage and not the Forth. But over all it wasn't that bad, oh yeah... Sakura's voice was horrible.

The opening/ending were better visually but the songs (opening) was more like a guy shouting them actually a song, while the ending... I was HOPING FOR WIND but they changed it too!!! Seriously that song was in english and they still didn't put it (it was one of my favorite, always made me nearly cry) :mad .

AdreneLyne
09-17-2005, 12:05 AM
An hour and 23 minutes til' it airs here.

Sorano
09-17-2005, 12:06 AM
Naruto's voice wasn't that bad, but looked a bit too broken for his age.

I thought it was very bad, it sounded as though he was sick or something. But I guess everyone's got different opinions.

They removed the nose bleeding part

Yeah, it broke everyone's heart including mine. :sad

Kno7
09-17-2005, 12:18 AM
I freaking missed it.

Good thing I have satellite though, I can watch it in an hour and 12 minutes :P

BattousaiMS
09-17-2005, 06:34 AM
I thought it was very bad, it sounded as though he was sick or something. But I guess everyone's got different opinions.



Yeah, it broke everyone's heart including mine. :sad

Precisely what I meant, his voice sounded like he broke his vocal cords erlier due to very bad coughing.

n8dogg
09-17-2005, 11:47 AM
Precisely what I meant, his voice sounded like he broke his vocal cords erlier due to very bad coughing.

You guys think the Japanese voice is any different? I'm really suprised that Naruto's jap voice actor hasn't blown her voice out from doing all of that straining!

Jones
09-17-2005, 11:50 AM
they proably not gonna use Wind. they are just gonna buy the dub from whoever made it. (i forgot)

Kno7
09-18-2005, 01:48 AM
they..did.

kumagoro_usagi
09-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Darnit! Where can I download the songs :sad

cmau
04-29-2007, 01:46 PM
Just watch the subs, you will be sooo much farther... YTV sucks......and if you read the manga on the net, you will be even farther!

JediJaina
04-29-2007, 01:57 PM
Before the last response, this thread hadn't been posted in since 2005.