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Sketchor
09-06-2005, 02:46 PM
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/video/toonami/index.html

It's nice to see some blood and the kunai's left in (CN has this issue with pointy objects usually).

Naruto's voice doesn't quite rub me right but I guess I can get used to it.

Iruka and Mizuki's voices are fine.

Kyuubi Naruto
09-06-2005, 02:51 PM
YES THE HAVE THE SAME MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

awesome :thumbs

Uchiha_Zero
09-06-2005, 02:53 PM
OMFG ROFL Naruto's voice is so fucking funny!!1:rofl:lmao

Fire101
09-06-2005, 03:09 PM
They sound bad tryin to pronounce the names. They dont sound right.

genesisofire
09-06-2005, 03:16 PM
Wow not too bad, they pronounced naruto correctly, rather than how the CN announcers did. Not too crazy about naruto's voice, but it takes a while to get used to. Iruka and Mizuki's voices sounded pretty good.

Kayo
09-06-2005, 03:16 PM
Naru Touu what the hell ? :S

Potentialflip
09-06-2005, 03:18 PM
They really putting a whole lot of effort with the name pronounciations.

BushidoPunk
09-06-2005, 03:21 PM
I can say only one thing about that clip....

I about creamed my pants! :laugh

Naruto and Iruka have great voice actors, and there were very little problems I heard! I believe that from the clip that CN showed us, we'll be seeing a very well done dubbed version of Naruto :nod:

Konoha'sWhiteFang
09-06-2005, 03:25 PM
Sounded decent, although it sounds like they're trying to hard to get the names right that it doesn't mix well with the rest of the dialogue, but that's to be expected considering they are two different languages. I'm sure i'll get used to it

ptran11
09-06-2005, 03:28 PM
I'm not quite sure on the voice actor for Naruto. I think Naruto's and Oro's voice will be the hardest to do. I'll make my decision when I see more of Naruto's voice in different situations.

What is definately horrible, as someone pointed out earlier, is how Iruka prounounced Naruto's voice. Absolutely horrid. I can't believe it. I hope they'll fix it as the series goes on.

Nyquist
09-06-2005, 03:29 PM
they sounded very strained when saying names. I laughed a few times because they just dont sound right.

Nybarius
09-06-2005, 03:30 PM
Dropping the Japanese names into English dialogue definitely sounds cheesy. Sort of like how certain celebs will drop a full Spanish accent into perfect English to sound 'authentic', ie: "I love vacationing in Meh-he-co".

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 03:30 PM
YES THE HAVE THE SAME MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

awesome :thumbs

EXELENT!! :wink

Im looking foward to it now..sure they sounded weird..but is only dub.

The Voices are ok, as long as they keep the music script and names right Im ok.

tmmyc
09-06-2005, 03:34 PM
I am glad they kept the Japanese pronunciations ("NAH-ru-toe"). I shudder when I heard "Nuh-RU-Doe". The voices are a bit weird though. Oh well.

Nybarius
09-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Meh, they should have just changed Naruto's name to Brian, Iruka to Joey, Mizuki to Bobby, and so on. Easier for everyone that way :P

helldragon
09-06-2005, 03:36 PM
I'm impressed with Naruto's voice. He sounds like a real 13-year-old.

NashNinja
09-06-2005, 03:38 PM
They seemed to have trouble getting the names and various pieces of Japanese right, but outside of that, I anticipated much worse, so maybe should they fix that one problem soon, we won't have any problems. It would deter me from watching for long if that persisted, though.

SSJ3Naruto
09-06-2005, 03:38 PM
*Sigh* Narutos voice is the exact voice I dreaded, and I dont like how they say jutsus, wth is a jootsu?

Hayabusa
09-06-2005, 03:39 PM
That clip was better than i expected, i just hope they bring it to the UK, i would gladly watch the series over again.

Uchiha_Zero
09-06-2005, 03:41 PM
Hopefully Sakura doesn't have a Sasuke voice visa versa….

RaZzy
09-06-2005, 03:44 PM
Yeah, it sounds alright I guess.. a bit weird ofcourse..
but compare it with the japanese naruto voice, man that one is really great when you think about it :P
I have to hear more of this dub-version though.

Mr. Toon
09-06-2005, 03:45 PM
Wow that was pretty good, not used to it in english, hope it comes to uk anyway.

EDIT: and the same music was a releif

Jiraiya
09-06-2005, 03:55 PM
I have a feeling that they've done a great job on the dub :whoo

The pronounciation was a bit strange though XD. Overall, I'm pretty impressed :tem

check out: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/naruto/101/index.html

KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2005, 03:59 PM
Naruto's voice might sound a bit off, but he isn't supposed to sound all hyperactive in that scene, he's supposed to sound like a confused kid. Let's wait until we hear how he sounds when he's vandalizing the Hokage monument or when he gets kick-ass against Mizuki at the end of the episode before judging.

Legault
09-06-2005, 04:01 PM
you know cartoon network is just going to ruin it...they ruined gundam wing...they ruined DBZ/DBGT

They take away the essance of the animes

KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2005, 04:03 PM
you know cartoon network is just going to ruin it...they ruined gundam wing...they ruined DBZ/DBGT

They take away the essance of the animes
Cartoon Network isn't responsible for dubbing the series, they just air them.

Uchiha_Zero
09-06-2005, 04:04 PM
Yeah, hopefully they improve after a few episodes.

angieness
09-06-2005, 04:06 PM
I listened to it a few times, I can't really accurately judge how it's going to be until I see the whole episode. For the name pronunciations they might not get the hang of it for a few episodes but at least they're attempting to get it right heh. I thought Naruto sounded very cute but we'll see how it goes with the full episode

~Kaio-Cam~
09-06-2005, 04:06 PM
you know cartoon network is just going to ruin it...they ruined gundam wing...they ruined DBZ/DBGT

They take away the essance of the animes

:laugh :laugh , thats funny man, ur really funny. Dragon Ball Z and Gundam Wing were great dubbed and undubbed. Actually DBZ sucked undubbed. WTF with the music, it doesnt flow at all with the happenings. U know it if u seen japanese dbz, American DBZ was EXCELLENT, made it the most popular in the country(if u say it's not then thats ur opinions, punks ^^) but anyway,

Naruto, dubbed, sounds good, i cant wait to see what the other characters will sound like. Just dont like the way they try and pronouce naruto. It's ok to pronounce like, Nar-ruu-toe, just wish they sounded like it was easy haha. I hope they dont take out scenes in the episodes.... But i hope they do take out some of those gay fillers.... or all:cool


oh yeah, and i hope they dont replay the whole series.

Ketsueki
09-06-2005, 04:09 PM
it's about 10000x better than i was expecting. I am extremly pleased with it, and who cares if the japanese words sound weird... you should all be stoked they're keeping it so close to the original!

If they keep the jutus names to the original i'll cream my pants.

Ah B
09-06-2005, 04:09 PM
That was..funky.
Naruto's voice makes me all unhappy inside. They also said jutsu in a funny way. :rofl

Prodigy-child
09-06-2005, 04:14 PM
Sounda kinda funky since I'm very use to the Japanese version of Naruto. But I am very happy so far with the dub. Sure the name prounouciation sounded off, but I have to give them much credit for trying. And like someone said, as the series goes on, they'll get use to it.

Beatnik
09-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Very amusing seeing our beloved Naruto in Engliz, I'll take the original Japanese version though thanks. :tem

sheshyo
09-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Naruto's voice sounds a little consitipated (sort of forced) , but nothin too unbearable. Overall it was well done. Can't wait to see the full episode.

Marysmary
09-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Did they edit out some blood on Iruka?

AkiNara
09-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Wow, that surprised me! NAruto? MIzuki? Jutsu? I wasn't expecting any of that. And oooh, look! Genin, Chuunin, and Jounin! Chakra! Hoorah! This dub seems pretty damn good! I'll gladly watch it.

Megaharrison
09-06-2005, 04:18 PM
Iruka's voice was meh, I wasn't thrilled with it. But the rest was fine, stop complaing about how they mispronounce "Naruto" and be happy they included terms such as "Jutsu" and the original music. Also Iruka's kunai wound was 100% unedited (in fact that scene is much more graphic in the manga, Iruka gets hit by about 4 kunai's instead of 1)

Minus617
09-06-2005, 04:18 PM
I thought Naruto's voice was kinda garbage. He sounds way too little. Now we have to wait and see if they make sasuke sound the same.

green tea96
09-06-2005, 04:18 PM
i wanna hear gaara and lee's voice

BluebrotherX7
09-06-2005, 04:22 PM
Give it time to shake off the dub stigma. It will be top notch soon enough.

kumagoro_usagi
09-06-2005, 04:23 PM
I like this! It actually sound okay. I really wish the dub comes out in the UK soon.

Naruto-Garaa123
09-06-2005, 04:27 PM
I hated Naruto's voice it will take some time for me to get used to it. Wat really bugged me was how they pronuced everyones name. Also how iruka was saying everything with no enthusiasm and how he said justu. to me it all jst sounded weird

DOK
09-06-2005, 04:28 PM
wtf? Is the link still working? cuz its showing me a diffrent anime o.0

sushix2100
09-06-2005, 04:28 PM
His voice it just doesnt seem right so i will stick with fansubs cause if bleach gets screwed like that then im done with it

kumagoro_usagi
09-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Luckily for Bleach there is no way in hell it's going to be dubbed by 4Kids :amuse.

genjo sanzo
09-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Iruka actually sounded pretty good to me, but they have to work with saying the name Naruto. Pronounced right, felt awkward cuz of the pause and emphasis.

I'm very happy they kept the same music, kept the blood, using terms like jounin and chakra, and even used Jutsu as a plural without changing it to Jutsus. lol nothing much but impressive to me.

Vupp
09-06-2005, 04:41 PM
Yeah its not bad i guess, they kept the music in the background, and the blood too =)

The only weird thing i noticed is the kinda weird pronounciation (I dunno if i spelt that right), like i think iruka said Jut-tu instead of like jutsu...its kinda weird but i think naruto will do a not bad of a job =)

Naruyamcha
09-06-2005, 04:43 PM
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kapsi
09-06-2005, 04:46 PM
That's the eevil dub? Pfft

Yagami Taichi
09-06-2005, 04:48 PM
Na-ruto. Hmm...the pause bothers me a bit and Naruto sounds a bit too off on how I imagined his voice to be but other wise I'm glad they kept the music as well as Mizuki's name and the word jutsu in instead of using "techinique". Still looking forward to it this weekend...Computer ready for recording ^_^.

Spidey
09-06-2005, 04:53 PM
awsome, so far so good I guess, and hopefully they get better as they go, but I'm glad that they are actually taking care and trying to make this a good dub. Overall i'm pretty impressed :)

M00se
09-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Naruots voice i cant get used to :( Iruka and Mizuki have ok voices but Naruto sounds like a freakin Geek :(

FFLN
09-06-2005, 04:55 PM
I liked Naruto's voice.:amuse Iruka's would've been better, but I didn't really like the strain with the pronunciation. Mizuki did not sound like a crazy bad guy at all.:S Oh well. More reason for Naruto to kick his prissy butt.:P

Aman
09-06-2005, 04:56 PM
Very... Interesting voices...

Kyuubi Naruto
09-06-2005, 05:40 PM
Naruto's voice reminds me of Goten from the dubbed DBZ but idk, the japanese voice has rubbed off and it will never be better then the japanese one. Its not bad but it will never be better.

You need to thank the voice actor though. That voice is alot better then alot of the ones it could have been.

Offtopic: Can anyone imagine dubbed Android Saga/Cell Saga Trunks dubbing Rock Lee's voice?

Soul Fang
09-06-2005, 05:41 PM
IMO, that clip was a piece of garbage. They didn't get the name right. And don't try to say "They will soon get it right". They are voice actors. Take some time, watch the japanese version and get the correct pronounciation instead of making up your own.

TenshiOni
09-06-2005, 05:43 PM
DUDE!

That was awesome. MUCH better than what I was expecting. Honestly, I think alot more people should be grateful it doesn't sound shit like any of the others shows you're gonna see on Toonami before and after it.

Naruto sounds fine. He sounds like an actual 12-year-old. I am interested in how he'll pull off the action and badass scenes though. I can't wait to here him say, "If you lay one finger on Iruka-sensei (Master Iruka?), I'll kill (beat) you (up!)". :woo

Iruka sounded pretty good, and with the exception of Mizuki saying, "Naruto...give me the scroll now!" I thought he sounded pretty fitting.

I'm so psyched. :spaz

I have faith that this will be a truly decent dub now.

EDIT: Oh and, stop bitching about pronounciation of "jutsu" people. :laugh

Kahve
09-06-2005, 05:44 PM
They pretty much kept the Mizuki pronounciation, but couldn't just stick with the original Naruto one?
I'm so eager to find out how they're gonna pronounce Orochimaru after this.. X(

Daniee
09-06-2005, 05:45 PM
Naruto and Mizuki are fine, and I'm sure Naruto's VA will get better as the series progresses :amuse

Iruka's voice is okay, his acting could be better...but at least he's not a major character and kids don't really notice bad acting anyway.

Wing-Zero
09-06-2005, 05:45 PM
naruto's voice makes me laugh

Th3 Bi0 HaZArD
09-06-2005, 05:46 PM
Ha Ha Ha WTF the preview on cartoon network is so unrealistic. Wow Iruka and Misuki both have a spanish accent, which is kinda weird since they are not spanish what so ever. Wow and for Naruto it seems that he is going to have a deep voice in the show which I don't believe will be good for the what so ever, I mean he's exposed to have a high pitched voice.

sinsio
09-06-2005, 05:47 PM
I didn't like Naruto's voice the first time I viewed the clip. Ok. I cringed a bit. It was just so very different from the japanese version. However, after a few repeat viewings, I can see his voice working for the show. The true test will be when Naruto goes on his temper tantrums and starts shouting "I'm going to kick your ass! or... Sasuke!!!, etc etc." My neighbor's kid is around Naruto's age. The pitch of his voice is pretty close to Naruto's voice.

Kyuubi Naruto
09-06-2005, 05:50 PM
You guys dont know anime do you? Its common order.

In EVERY dubbed anime, the main characters voice changes through the episodes until they find one that they can pick up on and that sounds the best. Every anime does this. Naruto's voice wont stay like this, definately not.

Th3 Bi0 HaZArD
09-06-2005, 05:52 PM
I hope your right

Blackvoice
09-06-2005, 05:53 PM
they kept the blood so thats good and the voices are not that bad IMO but the pronounciation of the name i mean it's the main goddamn character cmon it sound like someone putting on a fake accent.

Xgamer245
09-06-2005, 05:54 PM
Sigh....everythings fine but Narutos voice sounds some what....it bothers me...
Why dont they hire some random 10-13 year old kid?

Kyuubi Naruto
09-06-2005, 05:55 PM
Dont worry, I am. It happened to DBZ, Yugioh, and all the other voices. Naruto's voice will get a bit deeper.

AdreneLyne
09-06-2005, 06:06 PM
Yeah, I thought Naruto's voice when I watched it once was .. Kinda weak. Although, his taunts are pretty much right on the spot. But then when I heard him talking, I was like.. eww. But then I watched it again, realized he's about 12 in this show. It seems pretty good. Iruka's voice is fine, and I'm thinking this is dubbed like DBZ was done, not many anime were that lucky to have that. Like, the voices actually fit their character, and their expressions. Alot of anime subbed don't have that.

One word though, that kinda peeved me..

Joot-su.

Manetheren
09-06-2005, 06:18 PM
Sigh....everythings fine but Narutos voice sounds some what....it bothers me...
Why dont they hire some random 10 year old kid?


...

Main reason: Puberty.

Using child actors for voice actors is very rarely done, especially for long running series (like Naruto).

Once those kids get a few years older, then there is no guarentee what will happen to their voices. They could end up sounding completely different than what they were. This means that a new VA would have to be hired, which would through off the flow of the series.

I mean look at DBZ for instance. All the different VAs that worked on it (before Funi went back to redub the old episodes anyway). It really messes with it.

------

Not to mention it is rare to find enough good child actors that will work only in voice.

TenshiOni
09-06-2005, 06:21 PM
People....they are pronouncing Naruto correctly.

Nah-roo-toe. =/

FFLN
09-06-2005, 06:22 PM
It would not be cool if they actually had a 12 or 13 year old VA for Naruto. While most 13 year olds would think that their performance was the best ever!... most people would probably see it as being low quality at best. It's just more difficult for most kids to actually get into a role other than what they know.

In regards to how the VAs sound weird from what you're used to, didn't all of you guys have to get used to the Japanese VAs of Naruto when you first heard them? I know I did. I had my own idea of how the characters sounded like while I was reading the manga, but when I watched the anime, the voices they had weren't very close to what I had imagined them to be. I got used to them though and it doesn't bother me now. It's the same with the english dub of Naruto. Also, as Miyazaki put it, "All anime is dubbed.":amuse

Negative-Ion
09-06-2005, 06:24 PM
I like Naruto's voice, Iruka sounds kinda weird.

What i dont like is how they pronounce Naruto. Its like Nah- ruto, instead of Naruto. They kinda break the word instead of just making it flow or something.

sokpupet
09-06-2005, 06:25 PM
proof positive that some people are only happy when they're miserable. constant complaining that it's pronounced "nah-ruto" and not "naRudo" or "naRuto". then when they say "nah-ruto" in the dub they bash them for it! and what's with this "they said jutsu wrong" crap? at least they said jutsu! talk about nitpicking.

btw. i'm currently taking bets for how many negative reps i get because of this post. winner gets a positive rep from me! do it through pm though.

kratosauron0
09-06-2005, 06:30 PM
It's pretty hard to tell with just a clip. I expect the voicing will get better (hopefully), because this is the first episode. But they really need a new voice actor for Naruto...

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 06:31 PM
No, the correct way to say it is

NA-RU-TO or Nah-ru-toh

Simple no?

YamazakiSusumu
09-06-2005, 06:33 PM
All three of them are terrible actors, in my opinion. I'm not complaining about the voices themselves, but just the acting. It's kind of impossible to watch that clip and feel that the characters actually believe and care about what they're saying. It's just corny.

TenshiOni
09-06-2005, 06:33 PM
Nah-roo-toe = Nah-ru-toh =/

stormbreak
09-06-2005, 06:36 PM
Still looking forward to it this weekend...Computer ready for recording ^_^.
Do that and i will be your best friend, i really want to see this dub bad even more than episode 151 :)

helldragon
09-06-2005, 06:40 PM
It would not be cool if they actually had a 12 or 13 year old VA for Naruto. While most 13 year olds would think that their performance was the best ever!... most people would probably see it as being low quality at best. It's just more difficult for most kids to actually get into a role other than what they know.

In regards to how the VAs sound weird from what you're used to, didn't all of you guys have to get used to the Japanese VAs of Naruto when you first heard them? I know I did. I had my own idea of how the characters sounded like while I was reading the manga, but when I watched the anime, the voices they had weren't very close to what I had imagined them to be. I got used to them though and it doesn't bother me now. It's the same with the english dub of Naruto. Also, as Miyazaki put it, "All anime is dubbed.":amuse

Kid VAs could work. They've worked before. The va of Al from Fullmetal Alchemist is around the same age as AL and he was perfect (although some fans would disagree). There's also SPirited Away which has some of the best dubs in anime. Chihiro is voiced by a real kid. Of course, the problem with kid vas, as someone said, is the puberty thing.

Prodigy-child
09-06-2005, 06:43 PM
It would not be cool if they actually had a 12 or 13 year old VA for Naruto. While most 13 year olds would think that their performance was the best ever!... most people would probably see it as being low quality at best. It's just more difficult for most kids to actually get into a role other than what they know.

In regards to how the VAs sound weird from what you're used to, didn't all of you guys have to get used to the Japanese VAs of Naruto when you first heard them? I know I did. I had my own idea of how the characters sounded like while I was reading the manga, but when I watched the anime, the voices they had weren't very close to what I had imagined them to be. I got used to them though and it doesn't bother me now. It's the same with the english dub of Naruto. Also, as Miyazaki put it, "All anime is dubbed.":amuse

Well said. It would be the same for me also. When I first heard some of the voices in Naruto, I didn't like them. Such examples were with Neji and Chouji and Itachi's voices. But I eventually got use to them and it didn't seem so strange anymore. Though I still cannot stand Itachi's voice--I think it's way too low. But that's just my opinion.

Devilish Angel
09-06-2005, 06:44 PM
The names sound awkward now but the VAs will start to get used to the pronunciation after a couple episodes. It was like the Inuyasha dub. Kagome sounded weird but as you can see later, the VA got used to it. And you can't expect to find a VA that sounded exactly like the original VA of Naruto? They tried their best and I think they succeeded.

rosinne
09-06-2005, 06:46 PM
omg.. you know what'll make me cry? to see little kids dressed up in naruto costumes for halloween..

AdreneLyne
09-06-2005, 06:51 PM
It kinda seems they take a while to say it.. "Naruto"

Like they're trying to pronounce it extra right.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 06:53 PM
omg.. you know what'll make me cry? to see little kids dressed up in naruto costumes for halloween..

I don't know if they have halloween in Japan but I'm pretty sure little kids also wear Naruto costumes over there since they are the target audience there.

rarr
09-06-2005, 06:55 PM
Sounds pretty good, but Naruto's voice sucks. With the dub it's incredibly easy to tell that it's a woman doing his voice, and it's too high. I have high expectations, mostly, though.

Edit: and yeah, I noticed that it seems to take a really long time for them to get the sentences out...Iruka's voice didn't match up too well with his mouth either, but that's something that's a little hard to avoid.

rosinne
09-06-2005, 06:57 PM
I don't know if they have halloween in Japan but I'm pretty sure little kids also wear Naruto costumes over there since they are the target audience there.

hahah yeah i guess your right. naruto is gonna be the new pokemon and one piece in america. is that a good thing?

TGC
09-06-2005, 06:57 PM
lol this clip is so cheesy the voice actors saying naruto is freakin hilarious, but w/e i guess people will get used to it...

icoselitham
09-06-2005, 07:06 PM
Mizuki didn't sound evil enough.

TenshiOni
09-06-2005, 07:08 PM
^I think one should be more concerned for Orochimaru than Mizuki.

Nybarius
09-06-2005, 07:09 PM
Orochimaru's VA does such a great job -- I hope they manage to get MJ for the dub. /captain obvious.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 07:10 PM
hahah yeah i guess your right. naruto is gonna be the new pokemon and one piece in america. is that a good thing?

Probably the new dragonball. Unlike Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh, Dragonball Z also had a lot high school and college fans. In 2002, it even managed to become the first and only anime to become number one with tweens(9-14), and men (12-24) beating shows like South Park and The Simpsons. If it weren't for Dragonball Z, Adult Swim wouldn't have start playing anime.

Naruto has the potential to get an teen/adult audience like DBZ. Viz has said they were targetting teens and tweens, not little kids, even though the show's target audience in Japan is little kids..

rosinne
09-06-2005, 07:13 PM
Probably the new dragonball. Unlike Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh, Dragonball Z also had a lot high school and college fans. In 2002, it even managed to become the first and only anime to become number one with tweens(9-14), and men (12-24) beating shows like South Park and The Simpsons. If it weren't for Dragonball Z, Adult Swim wouldn't have start playing anime.

Naruto has the potential to get an teen/adult audience like DBZ. Viz has said they were targetting teens and tweens, not little kids, even though the show's target audience in Japan is little kids..

someone did alot of research :amuse

FFLN
09-06-2005, 07:17 PM
It doesn't matter about target audience though, since anyone can watch it and still enjoy it. Heck, you see more teens and people in their twenties dressed up as Naruto characters in cosplay than you do kids. It would be fun and cute if alot of kids started dressing up as Naruto characters. Now you wouldn't really feel out of place if you did the same.:amuse

genesisofire
09-06-2005, 07:17 PM
It kinda seems they take a while to say it.. "Naruto"

Like they're trying to pronounce it extra right.


well that's better than them not bothering to pronounce it right *cough cough* miguzi girl *cough*

FFLN
09-06-2005, 07:18 PM
Helldragon is right, but some kids at school just absoultly hate every anime out there just because they think it is some cartoon for little kids. That pisses me off a lot.

Well, just tell them to fudge off.:P

Negative-Ion
09-06-2005, 07:19 PM
Im not too conserned with Mizuki's voice, he only has 1 episode anyway, i hope they dont get him/her to play any other characters.

Im more conserned with the voices of the major characters, the ones that get a lot of airtime.

hakke
09-06-2005, 07:22 PM
Omfg Mizuki's Voice Sucks!!! How Will He Voice Tony The Tiger!!! Arrgh :)

SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 07:24 PM
Helldragon is right, but some kids at school just absoultly hate every anime out there just because they think it is some cartoon for little kids. That pisses me off a lot.
Well they're just assholes. The best thing to do is ignore em (or punch em in the face, if they won't leave you alone bout it. I did, and he never bothered me again)

Anyway, I liked it. Also, that was Naruto's confused/scared voice. We haven't even heard his serious/badass voice yet, so we have to see. Also, Kyuubi Naruto has a more deep/gravely voice, and I wanna hear what he sounds like.

I agree that Orochimaru would be to find. Harder that even Naruto. Who do you think from anime would be a good Oro?

Omfg Mizuki's Voice Sucks!!! How Will He Voice Tony The Tiger!!! Arrgh
Well, the guy who does the REAL Tony the Tiger is in America, and....no wait, bad move. They could be reading my post RIGHT NOW! Must...stop....giving bad ideas!

Also, they could just do America a favor and simply skip the arc.

CrazyMoronX
09-06-2005, 07:25 PM
Your right, first thing tommorow I'm bringing my Bleach manga to school and reading it with honor and dignity!

And get thrown into the closest trash recepticle! :P

Anyway... I can't wait to hear this thing, I can't listen to it at work, unfortunately... I just hope it's better than a lot of the people are making it out to be.

Totsuya
09-06-2005, 07:25 PM
Naruto's voice was ok, Iruka sounded terrible, and so did Mizuki. OH MY GAWD, HE BE USIN U 4 TEH POWA1

Lame. They need to stop being douchebangers with the name pronounciation, it doesn't sound natural at all.

Xgamer245
09-06-2005, 07:26 PM
yeah we wont see mizuki for a loooong time :/ probably 2 years approx?

uncanny_sama
09-06-2005, 07:27 PM
Meh, they should have just changed Naruto's name to Brian, Iruka to Joey, Mizuki to Bobby, and so on. Easier for everyone that way :P


NARUTO: starring brian

:notrust


------------


anyways this totally sucks
the way iruka says naruuuuuuuto
i cant bare to watch this >_<

FFLN
09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
Yeah, your right. Screw it.

Gee...:blink you don't have much strength or belief in your decisions or opinions, do you?:P

tHe_SwItChEr
09-06-2005, 07:35 PM
will narutofan.com be uploading th english episodes?

and do you recon the english episode will hit the net for download?

anyone know when it's actually ocmin out in england?

abfluvver
09-06-2005, 07:42 PM
I actually liked both Naruto and Iruka's voices (okay, I only like Iruka's VA because he is also Raiden from MGS2. And that is just hilarious to me for so many reasons).
Pronounciation is a little awkward, but on the whole, it seems like it's going to be a better-than-decent dub.

SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 07:44 PM
will narutofan.com be uploading th english episodes?

and do you recon the english episode will hit the net for download?

anyone know when it's actually ocmin out in england?
Doubt it. Viz could shut us down if we did that. But whatever, there will be plenty of other sites that will have it (Boxtorrents, animeyume, and more)

Necroziel
09-06-2005, 07:48 PM
I'm not impressed :(

Vodrake
09-06-2005, 07:49 PM
yeah we wont see mizuki for a loooong time :/ probably 2 years approx?

Mizuki appears in the first episode...


The only thing I can complain about of the voices so far is that they seem so emotionless. They just sound like people reading lines off a script rather than the characters they're meant to be portraying.

Duality
09-06-2005, 07:49 PM
will narutofan.com be uploading th english episodes?

and do you recon the english episode will hit the net for download?

anyone know when it's actually ocmin out in england?
You can find for sure sites that you will be able to download dubbed Naruto if Narutofan.com doesn't upload the episodes.

I actually liked this clip.Naruto's voice is pretty good compared to what i was expecting.Iruka's and Mizuki's voice was k too.I didn't liked how Iruka pronounced Naruuuhtoe but i'll get used to it.

Every voice is gonna be k for dubbers except Orochimaru's.Iam expecting quite a ????ed up voice for him.:sad I hope Iam wrong though.

Shade
09-06-2005, 07:49 PM
Naruto's voice was good, but I hope his voice changes when he turns Kyuubi unlike Inuyasha in which Inuyasha's voice didn't change as much as it should have.

BTW, I dunno if this has been said before but the Frieza VA from DBZ would work for Orochimaru, right?
....
no one?

Iruka-Senpai
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
I actually liked both Naruto and Iruka's voices (okay, I only like Iruka's VA because he is also Raiden from MGS2. And that is just hilarious to me for so many reasons).
Pronounciation is a little awkward, but on the whole, it seems like it's going to be a better-than-decent dub.

Yeah, Raiden's hilarious. Anyway, Naruto's voiceover is A LOT better than I expected. Iruka's is different but I can get used to it since both Raiden and Iruka look like girls and Quinton Flynn has a very androg voice. Mizuki's voiceover was good and exactly what I expected it to sound like.

To those who didn't like it, try watching it a couple times first and compare the voice to the character and not the Japanese voice.Then you can make your final decision.:)

rosinne
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
whoa! Mizuki's voice is a... nah.. are u serious?? hahah that's funny tho

Songbird21
09-06-2005, 07:56 PM
Naruto and Iruka have great voice actors, and there were very little problems I heard! You're kidding right? Iruka was terrible. I've heard better voice acting from fandub actors.

Meh, they should have just changed Naruto's name to Brian, Iruka to Joey, Mizuki to Bobby, and so on. Easier for everyone that way :PExactly how many pounds of crack did you smoke today? :huh

I'm impressed with Naruto's voice. He sounds like a real 10-year-old.A- Naruto is 11 at the start of the series and B- Naruto sounds like he's 8 in that clip. They shoulda cast the voice actor for Konohamaru, not Naruto.

I thought Naruto's voice was kinda garbage. He sounds way too little.100% agree.

proof positive that some people are only happy when they're miserable. constant complaining that it's pronounced "nah-ruto" and not "naRudo" or "naRuto". then when they say "nah-ruto" in the dub they bash them for it! and what's with this "they said jutsu wrong" crap? at least they said jutsu! talk about nitpicking.Yeah, I agree. I'm exstatic about the pronounciation. And they said jutsu! YES!

Iruka's acting made me want to claw my ears off. The voice was good though.

Sketchor
09-06-2005, 08:01 PM
And the moral of the story is...

No one ever agrees on dub actors.

kakoishii
09-06-2005, 08:03 PM
let's start off on a light note quoted from CN's page:
"Naruto is struggling to graduate from Ninja Academy, but when he steals a forbidden scroll, he unleashes a rare and dangerous power."
lol, I'm sorry I just find this summary extremely hilarious and kinda of corny and a CN is trying so hard to make this a hit way. Anyway My views on the clip is not bad. Yes I know none of the name pronunciations sound "natural" however I'm more than positive they will get better. Secondly don't flip unnatural pronunciations into bickerings about mispronounced names FYI naruto is pronounced right I don't care ir you think it should be Nah-ruto or NA-rutooe on the computer screen no one really knows what kind of a pronunciation you're trying to get across anyway. Secondly spare me from you stupid squables of how they pronounced "jutsu." Just tell me what was wrong with it? People keep saying they said "joot-su" instead whatever. Just tell me if you were to write out the pronunciation of jutsu phonetically how else would you spell it? My gosh it just seems like everyone is trying so hard to find something wrong with the narudub that it's becoming absolutly rediculous.
EDIT: to the above answered question I thought Naruto was 12 when the series started?

Iruka-Senpai
09-06-2005, 08:05 PM
And the moral of the story is...

No one ever agrees on dub actors.

Nope, they sure don't.
:amuse

McAleeCh
09-06-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, watching the clip alongside the subbed version for comparison, I noticed a few things:

- Blood on Iruka's mouth was edited out
- A close-up shot of Iruka was removed - it should occur when he says "It contains forbidden Jutsu..."; instead they lengthened the shot of Mizuki that came after it. The timing of the scene, however, is kept the same, since the shot of Naruto after these two shots occurs at the same time in both versions.

Aside from that, no noticable changes.

Ardor
09-06-2005, 08:15 PM
it feels like they're trying to make naruto too younge. im not a big fan of the VAs right now but im sure in time i'll get used to them. it could take time for them to really get into their parts. and for those who are jumping the gun if you acctually lister closely to the origional VAs it took them a little while to get into the swing of things also. they didnt do perfect jobs from episode one. its just that since we are native english speakers (mostly) we dont quite hear VAs from other languages like the native language speakers do. so give the dub some time. in 10 of 15 eps at most if they dont have it down right then i'll start complaining.

Excalibur
09-06-2005, 08:21 PM
After seeing that for the first time...I have a few issues. I wasn't expecting much so I was impressed by some of the things I saw and heard. Iruka's voice sounded decent...and Mizuki wasn't that bad. However, Naruto's voice is something I hope will grow on me because I didn't care for it the first time I heard it...and that is the key voice to get right because HE IS THE TITLE CHARACTER and appears in every episode. Like many other people have pointed out, they were struggling to say the names (it kind of reminds me of those old sports game where there would be a big pause where the game coding was trying to get the announcer to say [enter athlete name here]. At least they were close or spot on with the names...I almost gagged when I heard the CN voiceover guy say "Naruto". Even though it had some things that made me cringe, it could have been much worse...at least it was a clip from the first episode...instead of later in the series where these problems should be non-existant. I want to hear Kakashi's voice...that will make it all better.

Inactive Hiruma
09-06-2005, 08:24 PM
Sounds like crap. I'll stick to my fansubs, thanks.

Iruka-Senpai
09-06-2005, 08:25 PM
After seeing that for the first time...I have a few issues. I wasn't expecting much so I was impressed by some of the things I saw and heard. Iruka's voice sounded decent...and Mizuki wasn't that bad. However, Naruto's voice is something I hope will grow on me because I didn't care for it the first time I heard it...and that is the key voice to get right because HE IS THE TITLE CHARACTER and appears in every episode. Like many other people have pointed out, they were struggling to say the names (it kind of reminds me of those old sports game where there would be a big pause where the game coding was trying to get the announcer to say [enter athlete name here]. At least they were close or spot on with the names...I almost gagged when I heard the CN voiceover guy say "Naruto". Even though it had some things that made me cringe, it could have been much worse...at least it was a clip from the first episode...instead of later in the series where these problems should be non-existant. I want to hear Kakashi's voice...that will make it all better if Blum makes it decent which I bet he does.

Umm..Blum is playing Zabuza,not Kakashi.

Volken
09-06-2005, 08:28 PM
I really want to hear what Orochimaru's and Itachi's voice will sound like but that won't be for a while. I hope not too much is editted out.

R_Lee86
09-06-2005, 08:29 PM
Naruto's VA is suprisingly really good. How Mizuki and Iruka said "Naruto" was a little odd though.

And1balla2829
09-06-2005, 08:39 PM
Wow, surprisingly... Iruka and Mizuki's voices are good. But Naruto could use some work... Oh well, so far it seems good enough for me. They should show Kakashi, Sasuke's, and Sakura's too.

SuikenUser
09-06-2005, 08:46 PM
I agree with what most people are saying; Mizuki and Iruka were decent while Naruto might take a little getting used to and names were fumbled a little.

I'll be sure to watch the dub when it comes out. A clip can only tell you so much. I want to see how Naruto's VA deals with the other scenes in the episode and maybe by then, I will be used to it.

I'll wonder if they'll keep Naruto's "Dattebayo" saying that he plasters onto every other sentence. Wouldn't that be funny :laugh

I jest of course :amuse

hakke
09-06-2005, 09:02 PM
now that would be awful... to hear dattebayo or the translation.

As for the voice adapting... yeah, voices are not horrible.. and it takes time to get into character...
Im curious about Sakura and SAsuke, because those 2 sound more alike in the sound clips than Naruto's VA.

dbcomix
09-06-2005, 09:04 PM
i'm suprised that the voices kinda fit the characters but they need more "umph" when they talk.

they should speak as though their actually in that situation. they need more enthusiasm!
i hope they get better voice actors or sumthing.

dragonball z had sucky voice actors and then over time they either got better actors or the earlier vocalists got better...
all i'm saying is we need to give this show some time before we can see its full potential.

Zrco
09-06-2005, 09:07 PM
The only thing I can complain about of the voices so far is that they seem so emotionless. They just sound like people reading lines off a script rather than the characters they're meant to be portraying.


Wha? Your kidding right? This is an Cartoon Anime! Not a freaking Movie or play. Their acting sounds the same as any other anime. PLUS THIS IS JUST A CLIP FROM THE FIRST SHOW!!!

Some of you must be real buzzkills in real life... god bitch bitch bitch...

Jiyaido
09-06-2005, 09:13 PM
It would not be cool if they actually had a 12 or 13 year old VA for Naruto. While most 13 year olds would think that their performance was the best ever!... most people would probably see it as being low quality at best. It's just more difficult for most kids to actually get into a role other than what they know.
Ever heard of anti-growth hormones? Hehe, but yes it's true. Sad as it is, they can't use a child for more than 20 episodes.
In regards to how the VAs sound weird from what you're used to, didn't all of you guys have to get used to the Japanese VAs of Naruto when you first heard them? I know I did. I had my own idea of how the characters sounded like while I was reading the manga, but when I watched the anime, the voices they had weren't very close to what I had imagined them to be. I got used to them though and it doesn't bother me now. It's the same with the english dub of Naruto. Also, as Miyazaki put it, "All anime is dubbed.":amuse
I couldn't have said it better myself. I too read the manga before I saw, and realized there was the anime (years ago). The feeling is mutual.

I only saw the video of it right now. I currently can't hear the audio(since I'm in a class). I think the Mizuki shot was a little too long, but I can't wait to get home and watch with audio. Though I believe the dub will do very well, I will watch the clip.

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 09:17 PM
Hmm, well I have seen far worse. I was bracing myself for a par- sub par performance, so I'm not dissapointed at all. Some people just have high expectations...

Iruka-Senpai
09-06-2005, 09:21 PM
No emotion? What kind of talk is that? Think about that scene for a moment, Iruka doesn't have time to be focusing on pain he needs to be focusing on getting Naruto to run away with the scroll so Mizuki can't get it. Mizuki is just acting like this is going to be easy as pie and doesn't need to be all serious. Naruto is just confused. Jutsu is pronounced right, a lot of people think it is pronounced SHUTSU or SHITSU. Naruto is pronounced correctly, it is just being said with an American accent.:huh

Also, Ninja are not supposed to show emotion. So technically, either way they are doing right.:P

EDIT: Yay, the bat signal worked. oganisedcrime is here, but where is that weirdo, n8dogg? They usually have some of the most intelligent responses.:P

SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 09:27 PM
No emotion? What kind of talk is that? Think about that scene for a moment, Iruka doesn't have time to be focusing on pain he needs to be focusing on getting Naruto to run away with the scroll so Mizuki can't get it. Mizuki is just acting like this is going to be easy as pie and doesn't need to be all serious. Naruto is just confused. Jutsu is pronounced right, a lot of people think it is pronounced SHUTSU or SHITSU. Naruto is pronounced correctly, it is just being said with an American accent.:huh

Also, Ninja are not supposed to show emotion. So technically, either way they are doing right.:P
isnt a shitsu a type of dog????

Anyway, I think we could all take advice from Igor.

Igor: It could be worse.
Doctor Frankenstien: How is that?
Igor: Could be raining.
(massive rain begins as soon as he says it)

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 09:30 PM
What bat signal? Were people looking for me? :huh

Iruka-Senpai
09-06-2005, 09:31 PM
isnt a shitsu a type of dog????

Anyway, I think we could all take advice from Igor.

Igor: It could be worse.
Doctor Frankenstien: How is that?
Igor: Could be raining.
(massive rain begins as soon as he says it)

Yes, it is a type of dog.


Igor: Abbey
Doctor Frankenstien:Abbey who?
Igor:Abbey Normal

EDIT: [QUOTE=organisedcrime]What bat signal? Were people looking for me?[QUOTE]
I was, pretty much. People on forums tend to be pretty stupid. So I look forward to talking to intelligent people like you,SeruraRenge, and n8dogg.

Maffy the Love Doctor
09-06-2005, 09:31 PM
eh, it was aight i guess.

Zrco
09-06-2005, 09:32 PM
Naruto is pronounced correctly, it is just being said with an American accent.

Thank you. Why cant people understand this?

BTW this is 500 times better then any "fansub". I'd rather listen to someone who can project thier voice rather then some AmericJap kid butcher lines just because he/she thinks they are the only one who knows how to say Shukaku right.

r0ckman
09-06-2005, 09:37 PM
in my opinion naruto sounds too kiddy. considering his childishness, i guess it fits, but it's a problem if konohamaru and naruto sound the same age. regardless, the acting sounds great.

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 09:43 PM
I said that a few days ago and these 2 people went beserk on me.

What can you expect out of humans? ;)

The voice wasn't too childish for me, people underestimate pre-teen boy's voices in terms of deepness I mean.

AmazinG
09-06-2005, 09:51 PM
I thought the voice acting was pretty good. Yes there was some strain on pronounciations of names but the faster you realize American language has heavier accents and pauses than Japanese language the faster you'll get over it.

I want to hear Naruto when he is pissed and very interested how Kakashi's voice turned out

ShikaShino
09-06-2005, 09:52 PM
naruto's voice is definitly a little kiddy...much more different than the jap version....i winced as i heard them talk cuz im so used to jap dialect...i guess...i can....get used to it....itl be awhile for me tho, maybe more than most...

Ninjas i guess are innately japanese, so i guess i find it natural that when i hear american english dubbed it loses some of the effect im used to...

helldragon
09-06-2005, 09:57 PM
What are you talking about? His dub va sounds very close to his Japanese voice.

sven-da-man
09-06-2005, 10:03 PM
i thought it was all good.. exept they prenounc enaruto a bit weird.. but what the hell..you guys think the english eps will be downloadable somewhere to high quality
? cause i live in the netherlands and i wanna see to :s... also orochimarus voice will be hard to pull of.. i hope vegetas voice actor will do him :D

Mukuro
09-06-2005, 10:16 PM
I am absolutely distraught! I can't even watch the clip because everytime I go to watch it, another clip shows up.

This is ridiculous.

Negative-Ion
09-06-2005, 10:19 PM
I figured it out, Bart Simpson should be Naruto's VA!!

Vote for Bart Simpson as Naruto's VA!.

Chatulio
09-06-2005, 10:23 PM
Hmm naruto voice is perfect :spaz though irukas voice could have been done better, they still need to work on prononciation but all in all :scry :bow ths you thx you anime dubbing gods :crying.

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Uh the only problem was like that of One Piece. Of course I'm not saying it's that bad, but they seem to be putting emphasis on words, not pronunciations, that are unneeded. Seems weird, but I think it's liek that.

edit: new avy!

Svenjamin
09-06-2005, 10:33 PM
The music is the same so i am STOKED!

as for the voices, i am quite happy with Naruto's, it's about as close as they can get it i think.

But what surprised me a little was that Iruka said 'Jutsu', i mean, how much further would they take it? Won't americans think it is weird when they hear all these Japanese words? i hope they get explained, surely they will. Otherwise i am very happy with the result, especially that the music is the same!

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 10:34 PM
Who cares if they explain it or not, I'm happy with it. Seems either people love it or hate it.

Negative-Ion
09-06-2005, 10:39 PM
The music is the same so i am STOKED!

as for the voices, i am quite happy with Naruto's, it's about as close as they can get it i think.

But what surprised me a little was that Iruka said 'Jutsu', i mean, how much further would they take it? Won't americans think it is weird when they hear all these Japanese words? i hope they get explained, surely they will. Otherwise i am very happy with the result, especially that the music is the same!


Do you live in the U.S? half the kids in the U.S go to a martial arts school, the rest watch anime and surely have come across thw word "jutsu", the rest have watched too many ninja movies and smaurai movies. So the word jutsu isnt something they will hear for the 1st time.

fuzzywasheshe
09-06-2005, 10:41 PM
I'm impressed with Naruto's voice. He sounds like a real 13-year-old.
lol that sound like maybe a 6 year old but boy i hated hearing that

Jiyaido
09-06-2005, 10:42 PM
(watches the clip 6:20PM)
...My god.......I LIKED IT!:whoo THAT was some good VA action. Will see the dub this weekend! I'm psyched now! :spaz

Now going further after calming down, they were good choices IMO, but i believe Naruto was just a liiiiittle raspy by a fraction, yet I still think that choice for Naruto will work very well in the long run. Even IF the name pronouncing was off, it was still good enough for me. Just remember one thing though, Maile Flanagan's voice is a WAY better choice then let's say, Monkey D. Luffy.

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 10:45 PM
lol that sound like maybe a 6 year old but boy i hated hearing that

Dude a six year old sounds...

A six year...

It's not like a six year old. Trust me.

Goongasnootch
09-06-2005, 10:48 PM
I'm having problems playin the clip.. but from what I've read... JOOTSU?! That's gonna be a pain in the ass for me. Other than that everything sounds pretty good.

Uchiha_Zero
09-06-2005, 10:50 PM
Computer ready for recording ^_^.
Hmm, what/where can I get something to record things from my TV to comp?:huh

CrazyMoronX
09-06-2005, 10:52 PM
Well Iruka has a spanish accent for some reason, adding further proof to my theory that Kakashi will have a Cajun Accent!

YES!

organizedcrime
09-06-2005, 10:53 PM
Iruka has a spanish accent!? Wow, I really overlooekd that the first time around...and the second and thrid and fourth apparently.

genjo sanzo
09-06-2005, 10:56 PM
What can you expect out of humans? ;)

The voice wasn't too childish for me, people underestimate pre-teen boy's voices in terms of deepness I mean.

LOL what was the last preteen boy you heard? I mean, no, I have never heard any preteen sound like that, my 9 year old neighbor sounds older than that, and he's girly.

btw i didn't hear any spanish accent.......

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 10:56 PM
Well Iruka has a spanish accent for some reason, adding further proof to my theory that Kakashi will have a Cajun Accent!

YES!

Shut up man, :P

Ok..Im getting Impacient, when will this Dub start? I want to see the lameness.

Still, the clip was OK..but of course the Japanese will always make it look like well..crap.

Ikaramashu
09-06-2005, 11:01 PM
Better that i expected the voice acting wasent that bad naruto sound too kiddy thought but i can get use to it. It stay with the original music yay and there was blood now im really looking forward to this.
I wonder if the intro song will be change.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:02 PM
LOL what was the last preteen boy you heard? I mean, no, I have never heard any preteen sound like that, my 9 year old neighbor sounds older than that, and he's girly.

btw i didn't hear any spanish accent.......

I guess you also hate Naruto's japanese voice since it's just as high pitched(maybe even a little bit more) as his dub voice. Both the japanese and english voices sound pretty close to a real 13-year-old.

Repent
09-06-2005, 11:03 PM
OMG, Nar-ew-to. That scroll has forbidden jewtsu.

- Iruka sounds like Bob Saget.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 11:03 PM
Naruto's voice is better than I imagined..Just remember that American VA's arent that good at making kid voices.

guess you also hate Naruto's japanese voice since it's just as high pitched(maybe even a little bit more) as his dub voice. Both the japanese and english voices sound pretty close to a real 13-year-old.

Youre wrong,

Naruto's Japanese voice Excels the Dub English one because Japanese VA's put more Emotion towards the voice, while English VA's sound like theyre reading the paper, you could almost hear the pages turn.

You know what I mean.

So Naruto's VA's is ok but needs to be EDGIER!!

[Anbu]Naruto
09-06-2005, 11:05 PM
omg naruto sounds like a squirrel and man "The scroll has forbidden joose-so's". Thankfully I won't be watching this series in english so it won't be that bad.

TheVileOne
09-06-2005, 11:08 PM
Well if they didn't try doing the proper pronunciations people would still bitch about it.


The dub sounds fine to me.

Repent
09-06-2005, 11:08 PM
Naruto's voice is better than I imagined..Just remember that American VA's arent that good at making kid voices.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But there is something wrong with you. Naruto sounds like a pre-pubecent girl with a sore throat. Iruka sounds like Bob Saget. And Mizuki ... hrm. *Goes to find out who Mizuki sounds like.*

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 11:08 PM
Naruto']omg naruto sounds like a squirrel and man "The scroll has forbidden joose-so's". Thankfully I won't be watching this series in english so it won't be that bad.

if you havent seen this series, I advise you to See the Subbed ones, YOU WONT REGRET IT!! :amuse

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But there is something wrong with you. Naruto sounds like a pre-pubecent girl with a sore throat. Iruka sounds like Bob Saget. And Mizuki ... hrm. *Goes to find out who Mizuki sounds like.*

Yo!

I know... they SUCK :eyeroll , but atleast they sound better THAN THOSE CRAP SUCKING, GOOD FOR NOTHING 4KIDS!!! HOW I LOATH THEM. :mad

I want to Hear Sasuke!! Har har! How I will laugh~! :laugh :kkkawarim

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:13 PM
Naruto's voice is better than I imagined..Just remember that American VA's arent that good at making kid voices.



Youre wrong,

Naruto's Japanese voice Excels the Dub English one because Japanese VA's put more Emotion towards the voice, while English VA's sound like theyre reading the paper, you could almost hear the pages turn.

You know what I mean.

So Naruto's VA's is ok but needs to be EDGIER!!

Then watch the first episode before making a final opinion on his voice.

Most of the english vas you're talking about are in dubs done in the 90s which are pretty horrible. 90% dubs of done these days are just as good as the japanese versions. Sometimes they're even better. The director of the dub also directed Bebop and FLCL. The dubs of both of those shows are superior to the japanese version. The creator of bebop even said he prefered the dub.

I'm not saying the Naruto dub will be better but it's a possibility. It'll most likely be equally as good as the japanese version.

Bei
09-06-2005, 11:18 PM
This clip made me all happy and excited for Saturday. ARGH. Three and a half days to go. >___< They kept blood in it! And the music! <3 <3 Iruka's voice was alil 'wtf-ish' but its all ok. =D *Goes off to do something*

Repent
09-06-2005, 11:19 PM
Then watch the first episode before making a final opinion on his voice.

Most of the english vas you're talking about are in dubs done in the 90s which are pretty horrible. 90% dubs of done these days are just as good as the japanese versions. Sometimes they're even better. The director of the dub also directed Bebop and FLCL. The dubs of both of those shows are superior to the japanese version. The creator of bebop even said he prefered the dub.

I'm not saying the Naruto dub will be better but it's a possibility. It'll most likely be equally as good as the japanese version.


- A dub is an altered version of the original product. 99.9% of the time, in my opinion, dubs are inferior to the originals. Examples; Rurouni Kenshin, Dragonball/z/GT, Naruto, Tenchi Muyo, Gungrave.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 11:19 PM
Then watch the first episode before making a final opinion on his voice.

Most of the english vas you're talking about are in dubs done in the 90s which are pretty horrible. 90% dubs of done these days are just as good as the japanese versions. Sometimes they're even better. The director of the dub also directed Bebop and FLCL. The dubs of both of those shows are superior to the japanese version. The creator of bebop even said he prefered the dub.

I'm not saying the Naruto dub will be better but it's a possibility. It'll most likely be equally as good as the japanese version.

Keep on hoping!

I...lost all hope, all the Anime I ever liked has been damaged in US...So, I really dont care for DUBS anymore.

- A dub is an altered version of the original product. 99.9% of the time, in my opinion, dubs are inferior to the originals. Examples; Rurouni Kenshin, Dragonball/z/GT, Naruto, Tenchi Muyo, Gungrave.

EXACTLY!,

you can never.. ever! think of a Dub as EQUAL to the Japanese REAL version! EVER!!! :kksharing

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:23 PM
- A dub is an altered version of the original product. 99.9% of the time, in my opinion, dubs are inferior to the originals. Examples; Rurouni Kenshin, Dragonball/z/GT, Naruto, Tenchi Muyo, Gungrave.

You obviously haven't watched much dubs done these days. It's not the 90s anymore. They use talented actors now. I have on-demand and most of the animes there have very good dubs. Some of the animes there have dubs that are better than the sub(Cromartie High School and Golden Boy).

The majority of dubs in Adult Swim are good too. (Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo). Most of the bad dubs are done by 4kids now.

Quit living in the past. It's 2005. Most dubs are now great.

Hatake Kakashiold
09-06-2005, 11:27 PM
You obviously haven't watched much dubs done these days. It's not the 90s anymore. They use talented actors now. I have on-demand and most of the animes there have very good dubs. Some of the animes there have dubs that are better than the sub(Cromartie High School and Golden Boy).

The majority of dubs in Adult Swim are good too. (Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo). Most of the bad dubs are done by 4kids now.

Well..Perhaps is because you cant stand Japanese that you favor Dubs?

Im no Japanese speaking genious, But I do admire their language and their superb abilities to dub!

There are hidden talents in America..but theyre very Rare! and most of the Anime gets taken by REPULSIVE VA's and DEMON EDITERS.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:30 PM
What? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Just because there are some dubs that I think are better does not mean I hate the Japanese language. There are some shows I prefer subbed like most are animes dubbed in the 90s and before, and 4kids animes. I guess you believe that the Japanese voice actors are always perfect? They're not. Even they make mistakes.

SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 11:31 PM
You obviously haven't watched much dubs done these days. It's not the 90s anymore. They use talented actors now. I have on-demand and most of the animes there have very good dubs. Some of the animes there have dubs that are better than the sub(Cromartie High School and Golden Boy).

The majority of dubs in Adult Swim are good too. (Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo). Most of the bad dubs are done by 4kids now.

Quit living in the past. It's 2005. Most dubs are now great.
Also, the voices in the FLCL dub sounded so much like their JP counterparts, it's eerie:S .

Repent
09-06-2005, 11:33 PM
You obviously haven't watched much dubs done these days. It's not the 90s anymore. They use talented actors now. I have on-demand and most of the animes there have very good dubs. Some of the animes there have dubs that are better than the sub(Cromartie High School and Golden Boy).

The majority of dubs in Adult Swim are good too. (Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo). Most of the bad dubs are done by 4kids now.

Quit living in the past. It's 2005. Most dubs are now great.

Let's see. First of all, 4kids does FMA. And you claim that FMA is good, so they can't be that bad. DUbs will never be able to convey the proper emotion, pronounce names properly, or sound as fluent as the Japanese versions. Most dubs are very choppy. The only dubs that I think are anywhere near being good are Champloo and Bebop. And the Japanese versions are still much better.

genesisofire
09-06-2005, 11:34 PM
Wow, I just rewatched it on my laptop and with higher volume and Naruto's voice is a little bit kiddier than it was in the original. Kinds sounds like a eunuch. It is true that the voices speak pretty unnaturally, but I didn't notice any Spanish accent. It's still good to hear original music and it's still the first ep. The VA's are still sucky and not used to it yet in the first episode.



EDIT: to guy who posted before me, 4kids didn't dub FMA. Funimation did. 4Kids did pokemon and yugioh and....one piece.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:35 PM
To Repent:

Um...No. Funimation did FMA. Their only bad dub is Dragonball Z. Also 4kids would never let an anime air on Adult Swim. Fullmetal Alchemist has some of the best dubs in history. As for Bebop, the dub is definately better. Even the creator himself prefers the dub.

Even the Japanese make mistakes.

SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 11:35 PM
Let's see. First of all, 4kids does FMA. And you claim that FMA is good, so they can't be that bad. DUbs will never be able to convey the proper emotion, pronounce names properly, or sound as fluent as the Japanese versions. Most dubs are very choppy. The only dubs that I think are anywhere near being good are Champloo and Bebop. And the Japanese versions are still much better.
actually, you are wrong. FuNimation does FMA. 4kids didnt even try to get it.

Repent
09-06-2005, 11:46 PM
*confuses those two quite a bit.*

- Most people asscosciate anime with Japan. The drawings are very angular. It's something you can asscosciate with the Japanese language. The tones of the voices, and the sound of the language fits the animation/drawings. Anime was designed for a Japanese audience (tell me if I'm wrong on this one. ^_^) So it sounds better in Japanese by default. There are always impurities when you switch anime to the english language. For one thing, even though technology has advanced, voices do not always match the movements of the mouth.

- This is just my opinion.

helldragon
09-06-2005, 11:54 PM
*confuses those two quite a bit.*

- Most people asscosciate anime with Japan. The drawings are very angular. It's something you can asscosciate with the Japanese language. The tones of the voices, and the sound of the language fits the animation/drawings. Anime was designed for a Japanese audience (tell me if I'm wrong on this one. ^_^) So it sounds better in Japanese by default. There are always impurities when you switch anime to the english language. For one thing, even though technology has advanced, voices do not always match the movements of the mouth.

- This is just my opinion.

What about shows like Chrono Crusade and Hellsing? They set in America and Britain. Don't you think it sounds weird to hear those shows in Japanese?

Just because the Japanese is the original language does not mean it's better. As I said, Japanese voice actors are not perfect. There are many dubs that are not only as good as the japanese version but even better.

If it were live action, I would agree with you.

Here's another dub that's better than the sub. The You're Under Arrest OVA. The Japanese director even showed it to the japanese cast to prepare them for the tv series.

sokpupet
09-06-2005, 11:56 PM
alright, i consider myself to be a slave to anime. i watch as much as i can, and there's very little that i don't really like. but i also have a life outside of anime! i go out, work, write, read. i do a lot of things that do not revolve around anime. which is exactly why my panties are NOT in a bunch over the dub, or dubs in general. those whose panties are, are in desperate need of a life.

if you or anyone you know has a life to spare, please donate to this worthy cause. all donations will be appreciated. thank you and good night.

ps: i'll be taking "how many neg reps" bets on this post too. lord knows geeks hate to called out on it. this coming from a geek!

Repent
09-07-2005, 12:03 AM
What about shows like Chrono Crusade and Hellsing? They set in America and Britain. Don't you think it sounds weird to hear those shows in Japanese?

Just because the Japanese is the original language does not mean it's better. As I said, Japanese voice actors are not perfect. There are many dubs that are not only as good as the japanese version but even better.

If it were live action, I would agree with you.

Here's another dub that's better than the sub. The You're Under Arrest OVA. The Japanese director even showed it to the japanese cast to prepare them for the tv series.

- It only sounds wierd when the Japanese characters try to speak broken english. And what I said earlier does not depend on the setting of the anime; It's the style of animation, the drawings, ect. No one said Japanese voice actors are perfect, BTW.

hobofromdowntown
09-07-2005, 12:03 AM
terrible.

i hate how iruka says naruto and i hate how naruto sounds like a pansy.

n8dogg
09-07-2005, 12:09 AM
alright, i consider myself to be a slave to anime. i watch as much as i can, and there's very little that i don't really like. but i also have a life outside of anime! i go out, work, write, read. i do a lot of things that do not revolve around anime. which is exactly why my panties are NOT in a bunch over the dub, or dubs in general. those whose panties are, are in desperate need of a life.

if you or anyone you know has a life to spare, please donate to this worthy cause. all donations will be appreciated. thank you and good night.

ps: i'll be taking "how many neg reps" bets on this post too. lord knows geeks hate to called out on it. this coming from a geek!

I love you. If you're a guy, the feeling is totally in a brotherly way.

How many threads to we have to have in this forum that talk about the exact same thing?!! I look into each one, and it's like looking at the same conversation.

helldragon
09-07-2005, 12:12 AM
- It only sounds wierd when the Japanese characters try to speak broken english. And what I said earlier does not depend on the setting of the anime; It's the style of animation, the drawings, ect. No one said Japanese voice actors are perfect, BTW.

When you said that the Japanese dub, by default, is better, it's like you were saying that american voice actors are bad or that Japanese actors are perfect. There are japanese dubs out there with mistakes and the dubs surpass them.

Golden Boy's dub is better than the japanese version because the japanese version was bad. Kentaro's voice in the dub was funnier than the horrible voice he got in the japanese version.

I could definately see why Naruto fans are called Narutards.

cunning Kitsune
09-07-2005, 12:25 AM
Its not that bad, its just the way they say. Naruto, Jitsu, Mizuki - they sound weird
you all know it could be allot worse
And I mean ALLOT WORSE !

Naruto could sound like hes from Brooklyn or Texas
there are other shows with worse voice overs

shopaholic
09-07-2005, 12:32 AM
ugh i dont like those voices so far

its like.. when they tried to say 'naruto' it almost sounded liek 'na ra ta' to me -_-;;

SSJLance
09-07-2005, 12:51 AM
Yeah I think that the voices sound alright for the characters, but it kind of sounds corny when they talk english, then try to sound japanese, it just doesn't fit. My japanese foriegn exchange student friend agrees with me. He saw DragonBall Z in english for the first time and he actually liked some of the voices more in english! I think that english speaking people like the japanese more because it's different and like exotic or something, since it's not american, it's cool... I do think that this dub will be pretty well done, and all of the complaints are kind of stupid, what more could people want, they have the correct names and pronunciation so stop bickering already!

9TalesOfDestruction
09-07-2005, 01:15 AM
well, I've watched it about 3 times now, and it sounds better each time

when i first heard it I was like "WTF"..ahahaha....

Iruka's voice sounds strained, Mizuki sounded ok

Naruto, well we'll see

I love how they translated it though, they actually say Jutsu "shit i can't even pronounce that..aha"

Dialouge and Script = Good

Acting = ehhhhh, have to see more in the context of the episode.....

it'd be great to have anime in subtitles on TV, teach kids how to read or something ...lol

icoselitham
09-07-2005, 01:22 AM
I like it. The second time i watched that clip it got better. I think the sound naruto made when iruka pushed him out the way was perfect. I think there trying to hard with pronoucing the names. I also think they might say "kage bushinn no justu" since iruka said "justu". Im gonna keep my hopes up.

SeruraRenge
09-07-2005, 01:40 AM
Watching again a few times, It's pretty good. However, before he gets pinned to the wall, Iruka's acting wasnt all too good.

Dabura
09-07-2005, 02:28 AM
we have not heard a pissed off naruto or noisy one yet, like: I'm gonna kill you!!!" < to mizuki. But so far pretty good

Iruka-Senpai
09-07-2005, 02:29 AM
I hope everyone is aware that the actors haven't gotten into character yet. They have been dubbing for months. Do you really think they haven't improved at all? I thought this clip was good but a little choppy like the first episode was in Japanese.So I think we should all compare the JP voices from now to the JP voices then and compare it to this clip.

SarcasticIrony
09-07-2005, 02:57 AM
Man, this argument alone made me want to join the fourms, just to throw in my usless opinion, heh.

Anyway; I've always been a huge 'dub' fan, starting with DBZ, giong on to pretty much every anime ive ever seen. English being my native language, the shows just seem more real when i hear words i understand coming out of their mouths. To tell the truth though, Naruto is the first series i've followed this close in sub form before seeing the dub, and im looking forward to see how this affects my opinion. After seeing the new commercial, i can't wait till saturday, and i hope there will be a download available sometime shortly afterward (thats the good thing about dubs...i can understand the raws :laugh ). The voices came off pretty cool to me

Mizuki: Sounded in character, still trying to make Naruto think hes the good guy, he sounded calm and trusting
Iruka: Sounded stupified at first "huh? Mizuki?" but i guess thats how hes supposed to sound...and i liked his voice as he gave the speech, dunno, that ones just opinion...
Naruto: C'mon, theres no way it was gonna sound anything like the japanese VA, once i get over that, though, i think i can get to like this one

I am by no means a hater of the spoken japanese language, its just how my brain works....by episode 150, my brain is already changing it around in my head. Whenever i think about a part from the show, i don't think of subtitles at the bottom, i think of their japanese voice speaking english....which sounds pretty cool sometimes, i have to admit...but thats just no gonna happen. Well have to get used to new voice actors if we want to watch it in english. Hell, ill still watch fan subs, and probalby still watch the dub and buy the dvds (uncut only....of course...).

Shit, this is getting to be a longer post then i meant to make....sorry aobut that

Conclusion: The Dub looks like it's gonna rock; there is no "its better/worse than sub" I just think of it as a different piece of the same show. If the characters are there, and they story and the development are the same, ill watch it. It's Naruto, not Naruto Japan, and Naruto America....(This is why i cry about One Piece though...that did happen to it...and i was ready for it to be the next dbz...damn 4kids....)*damn, i ranted even more!!*

FFLN
09-07-2005, 03:03 AM
I agree with SarcasticIrony.:amuse It will be nice to see Naruto dubbed in english. With good script writers or adapters, the actors will be able to get a better idea of how they should protray a character.

Illidin
09-07-2005, 03:35 AM
WOW! just....WOW:huh. I dont see how anyone could like that shit.NARUTO is going in my book under horrible dubs.

Tsuuga
09-07-2005, 04:19 AM
Mizuki's voice is okay... and the Naruto VA has room for improvement but that's not her real voice so it's possible. Iruka, though... "Huh? Mizuki? HUH? LOOK OUT!"

Sooo badly done. It probably won't be a bad dub by any means but of the current voices demonstrated, the Japanese VAs are superior actors,

Uchiha_Sharing@n
09-07-2005, 04:42 AM
it was horrible, but funny.

Inactive Hiruma
09-07-2005, 05:26 AM
I like it. The second time i watched that clip it got better. I think the sound naruto made when iruka pushed him out the way was perfect.

I thought he sounded like a 6 year old girl when he got pushed out of the way.

[WOW! just....WOW:huh. I dont see how anyone could like that shit.NARUTO is going in my book under horrible dubs.

Me neither man. It baffles me that people can actually like this.

Ah well, I guess, like everyone's taste in music, everyone hears something different. To me it just sounds wrong.

Beatnik
09-07-2005, 06:12 AM
The voice acting is important and all but story is the most important thing, and for now it seems its being unedited but you'll remember the beginning of this series is kind of kiddy friendly but what about the emotional climax of the Zabuza arc? What about later, in the darkest point of the anime so far (imo) when Naruto's gang go into that forest of death and Orochimaru shows up and simulates killing Sakura and Sasuke, what about the tragic childhood flashbacks of many characters, things like that I think may very well get edited heavily. Because 'western' animation doesnt like to treat its viewers with any kind of respect, they're all about spoon feeding and happy faces most of the time, you guys shouldnt be worrying about whether they reveal enough blood but whether they reveal enough of the character conflicts and emotional themes we see in the series. Naruto, for a story for kids and teenagers, has its mature moments that have messages on alot of deep and important topics. I think there is a risk of Naruto being diluted heavily later on, it just depends on whether whoever is bringing this to the west has any balls and common sense or not.

Dont stress to much about the voice acting, it wasnt Cowboy Bebop perfect but it wasnt One Piece atrocious. Maybe the accents will slowly change and adapt over time.

Pazuzu
09-07-2005, 06:39 AM
All three of them are terrible actors, in my opinion. I'm not complaining about the voices themselves, but just the acting. It's kind of impossible to watch that clip and feel that the characters actually believe and care about what they're saying. It's just corny.

Complete agreement there. Like someone said earlier in the topic, you could practically hear the pages turning.

Also, I hope Maile Flanagan is good at making Naruto sound loud/obnoxious/aggressive, because he doesn't sound like it in this, and that sort of defines his character.

Rainy Days
09-07-2005, 06:53 AM
Naruto's voice kinda reminded me of Sora's in Kingdom Hearts. I don't think the clip was horrible, but you can tell it needs alot of improvement. At least they're keeping jutsu, instead of something like technique. I think that they'll do a good job. They just better not screw up Kakashi! That's when the gloves will come off.

Pez_Dispencer
09-07-2005, 06:55 AM
is it just me or am I the only one who can't view the clip? I keep getting the zatch bell one instead >.<

edit: wow! I just listened to dub iruka's voice and the japanese version and wow! :blink they sound almost the same! IMO
I have to agree with what everyone else said though, dub could use some work on the name pronounciation.

I think naruto's scream when iruka pushed him out of the way was really good. :laugh

Negative-Ion
09-07-2005, 08:17 AM
Hmm, what/where can I get something to record things from my TV to comp?:huh


You need a S-video cable and a video card that supports it, i guess the latest video cards do. You can probably find one on bestbuy or pc-richards or whatever electronic store. heres a link with a few of them http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=s+video+cable&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

Edit: CN has changed the link for the clip, the new link is this, http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/video/

the admins or OP can edit the 1st post if they like.

meekozy
09-07-2005, 09:38 AM
Omg....the pronounciation!!!! Mi-zoo-ki, Nae-roo-toh, OMG IT'S STUCK IN MY HEAD! and joot-su.....If I was to watch even one episode of the dubs, I'll surely die....

Eiji
09-07-2005, 09:49 AM
They are pronouncing jutsu correctly, so I don't see the problem with that.

I agree that it sounds like they stressed the names a bit, but it's nothing too bad.

CrazyMoronX
09-07-2005, 09:59 AM
I guess me and that other guy are the only ones that picked up on the spanish accent... I mean it's not entirely noticable I guess, but it is there.

Anyway... I wasn't impressed. Could just be the shock of hearing it in english though...

SSJoseph
09-07-2005, 12:37 PM
ATTENTION!!

Alright, I am really tired of hearing all this whining...

"Oooh, I hate the pronounciations...I can practically hear the pages turn."

"Nah-Ru-toe, WTF!!?!?!"

"Oh my god, Naruto's voice sucks"

First off you need to remember the following....


All voice actors suck during the first few episodes.
All voices never match the origanal character due to the fact that there japanese to english, if you compare Iruka's voice with his japanese counterpart you will see that there almost identicle, its just your ears don't like it in english.
Sure Naruto's voice dosnt match his witty sence, but did you notice that in that scene he isnt supposed to be witty?
WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE HAPPY THAT THEY ARE KEEPING IT SO CLOSE TO THE ORIGANAL AS POSSIBLE!! You see the point?
You just can't put down your pride in Naruto.

If you dis-like it so much, don't complain...just don't watch.


Also, I picked up the slight spanish accent as well.
That is just a voice actor not used to his new voice yet.

Think of it, you try and make a voice....
Then after a few hours you will start to notice some things like "Hey maybe if I adjust my ah's a little bit..it will sound better" or "How about a prolong my oo's a thenth of a second, i wonder what that will sound like"

After about 12 episodes we will see there voices in there full glory.
And by season two we will see there voices are 100% mastered.

SeruraRenge
09-07-2005, 12:53 PM
ATTENTION!!

Alright, I am really tired of hearing all this whining...

"Oooh, I hate the pronounciations...I can practically hear the pages turn."

"Nah-Ru-toe, WTF!!?!?!"

"Oh my god, Naruto's voice sucks"

First off you need to remember the following....


All voice actors suck during the first few episodes.
All voices never match the origanal character due to the fact that there japanese to english, if you compare Iruka's voice with his japanese counterpart you will see that there almost identicle, its just your ears don't like it in english.
Sure Naruto's voice dosnt match his witty sence, but did you notice that in that scene he isnt supposed to be witty?
WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE HAPPY THAT THEY ARE KEEPING IT SO CLOSE TO THE ORIGANAL AS POSSIBLE!! You see the point?
You just can't put down your pride in Naruto.

If you dis-like it so much, don't complain...just don't watch.


Also, I picked up the slight spanish accent as well.
That is just a voice actor not used to his new voice yet.

Think of it, you try and make a voice....
Then after a few hours you will start to notice some things like "Hey maybe if I adjust my ah's a little bit..it will sound better" or "How about a prolong my oo's a thenth of a second, i wonder what that will sound like"

After about 12 episodes we will see there voices in there full glory.
And by season two we will see there voices are 100% mastered.
*bows to SSJoseph* Rep for you!

aint-got-skillz
09-07-2005, 12:57 PM
I wish they just air Naruto as subtitled and keep the original language in it.

Doing this will accomplish 2 things:
1) They will preserve all pronounciations
2) It will help stupid kids to read.

Im ok with them airing Naruto and everything, the only thing that I will hate the most is when the show gets so popular and all these dumb kids are screaming in the streets jutsu-this and jutsu-that and saying the names in some gay way.

But this is just my opinion.

I jus finished watching Yu Yu Hakusho the series and the english subtitles were not exactly what they said in the japanese audio. They changed alot of the dialogue in the subtitles and I wish that they would not do the same for Naruto because it ruins some of the meaning of what the characters are saying.

vick86
09-07-2005, 01:22 PM
I wish they just air Naruto as subtitled and keep the original language in it.

Doing this will accomplish 2 things:
1) They will preserve all pronounciations
2) It will help stupid kids to read.


3) Less poeple will watch it, because only anime purists and fans really care about it. The mainstream is to lazy to read and just want to sit back and watch the series without thinking to much, listening is after all easier and faster than reading. Thank god for DVD's.

CrazyMoronX
09-07-2005, 01:46 PM
I think they should stick with the spanish thing, maybe even kick it up a bit, it would be good for the character, you know breathe some new life into it.

And everytime he insults Naruto he could say it spanish, like "Aye corumba, Naruto es locco!" It would be perfect.

Also, I think Jiraiya should be voiced by a Sean Connery voice actor sound-a-like.

The possibilites are endless.

Seraphim
09-07-2005, 01:50 PM
The new Naruto voice actors can suck my flacid penis...
Fuck that shit. I'm cut..
They ruined it. Soon NF will be filled with a bunch of 11 year old fool speaking shit about what they don't know. This next generation can burn in hell!

Gaara_of_the_Desert
09-07-2005, 02:00 PM
ATTENTION!!

Alright, I am really tired of hearing all this whining...

"Oooh, I hate the pronounciations...I can practically hear the pages turn."

"Nah-Ru-toe, WTF!!?!?!"

"Oh my god, Naruto's voice sucks"

First off you need to remember the following....


All voice actors suck during the first few episodes.
All voices never match the origanal character due to the fact that there japanese to english, if you compare Iruka's voice with his japanese counterpart you will see that there almost identicle, its just your ears don't like it in english.
Sure Naruto's voice dosnt match his witty sence, but did you notice that in that scene he isnt supposed to be witty?
WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE HAPPY THAT THEY ARE KEEPING IT SO CLOSE TO THE ORIGANAL AS POSSIBLE!! You see the point?
You just can't put down your pride in Naruto.

If you dis-like it so much, don't complain...just don't watch.


Also, I picked up the slight spanish accent as well.
That is just a voice actor not used to his new voice yet.

Think of it, you try and make a voice....
Then after a few hours you will start to notice some things like "Hey maybe if I adjust my ah's a little bit..it will sound better" or "How about a prolong my oo's a thenth of a second, i wonder what that will sound like"

After about 12 episodes we will see there voices in there full glory.
And by season two we will see there voices are 100% mastered.

Everyone is intitled to their opinion mate. I thought it was horrible, only judging by what i saw and heard. But i guess i can only watch and hope its not all that bad. Im scared about dubbed Gaara and Lee, oh god if they screw up gaaras voice their dead!

Shadow Blade
09-07-2005, 02:23 PM
It's decent. Naruto sounds better than I thought, but there are two problems:
1. Mizuki and Iruka sound the same... Iruka sounds even more threatning than him... -_-
2. They do have a hard time pronouncing their names.

theden
09-07-2005, 02:23 PM
american voices on anime series are the most awful voices i have ever heard......naruto goes from an asskicking anime serie to a real childrens cartoon show......anime shouldn't be that childish as the voices were....they should have a more rough edge to it like the japanese ones. Anime is only to be viewed in japanese, no other language......i cant wait to hear orochimarus voice...i'll bet that there is were we are gonna se the biggest diffrens.

naruto in american is gona suck big time just lika dragonball did. The only ones who are gonna enjoy it are kids...not older people who are into anime.

vick86
09-07-2005, 02:26 PM
They ruined it. Soon NF will be filled with a bunch of 11 year old fool speaking shit about what they don't know. This next generation can burn in hell!

Amen to that. I hate it when to they hype stuff for 10 year olds. I'm just glad it won't be in my country anytime soon.

Coming soon to a wallmart near you: Naruto champoo, naruto underwear, Naruto dogfood, Naruto condoms and Naruto viagra (also known as the erectus no justu).

Five weeks from now

10 year old naruto fan: Naruto is so cool and you know like... and that... and when they do like this...
Me: It is so uncool to watch a show every ten year old thinks is cool.

Masaki
09-07-2005, 02:28 PM
Well, let's look at the pronounciation of the letter "u" right now. The pronounciation is different in America and Japan.

Naruto, Iruka, Mizuki, Konohamaru, Sarutobi (though they probably won't say his name until Orochimaru), maybe Asuma and Kurenai, Hyuuga Hinata, Haruno Sakura, Uchiha Sasuke, Nara Shikamaru, Aburame Shino, and Akimichi Chouji all appear in the first three episodes. This is going to be so awkward to listen to. There's also the term "Jutsu".

Splintered
09-07-2005, 02:32 PM
I actually like it, I don't understand what all the whining is about.

They kept the names, so no corny Sean or Lily or anything like that. And they kept words like Hokage and jutsu. Sure, they pronounce it strange, but then again they aren't Japanese. Everyone has problems with pronouncing words in another language- Beck had a bad problem with English.

Voice actors where eh. I didn't like Mizuki at all, Iruka was decent, but I did like Naruto's. It was a lot better than I originaly thought it would be. I'm glad, it's not the Naruto voice I love but until she learns to speak English fluently, we aren't going to have someone like her doing Naruto. The person doing Naruto is doing a good job, not the best but I don't expect perfection.

AND OMG!

THEY DIDN'T CUT THE BLOOD OUT! AND THERE WERE STILL KUNAI STUCK IN IRUKA'S BODY! AND HE STILL PULLED THEM OUT!

I am overflowing with happiness.

Negative-Ion
09-07-2005, 02:39 PM
The word jutsu is the only thing thats being pronounced correctly, what are you all talking about.

AkiNara
09-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Why Viz even tried to please you spoiled brats (you heard me) is beyond me. You people just won't be satisfied. Just pretend the dub doesn't exist. They could have taught the Japanese cast to speak flawless English and you'd still bitch. That clip was nearly perfect for a dub. The pronounciations were correct (YES they were, stop saying otherwise), they used proper terms, they kept the original music, it seems almost unedited...

WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING?!? GOD TO POP OUT AND SHAKE YOUR HAND?!

Good lord, I'm sick of you ungrateful bastards. They work their asses off to please you, and this is thanks they get? You deserved a 4Kids dub, in my opinion. At least then you'd have something to complain about. "LoLz!!1 JeW-tSu?!11 R dEy reTaRtEd?!1 It's juht-su!! THIS IZ UNBEARIBLE!!11" Shut up. Seriously. Would you prefer "pixie magic attacks"?

I'm glad that some people around here have enough sense to see how good this dub can be. The effort the staff is putting into this project. They're better than you deaf ears that bitch and moan about every little error. Go ahead, be miserable pukes. Have fun. Personally, I'll be enjoying myself on Saturday night. Too bad you're too busy making mountains out of mole hills to join me.

helldragon
09-07-2005, 03:33 PM
Amen to that. I hate it when to they hype stuff for 10 year olds. I'm just glad it won't be in my country anytime soon.

Coming soon to a wallmart near you: Naruto champoo, naruto underwear, Naruto dogfood, Naruto condoms and Naruto viagra (also known as the erectus no justu).

Five weeks from now

10 year old naruto fan: Naruto is so cool and you know like... and that... and when they do like this...
Me: It is so uncool to watch a show every ten year old thinks is cool.

It's already like that in Japan. Naruto has always been a kids show.

Jiyaido
09-07-2005, 04:01 PM
Everyone is intitled to their opinion mate. I thought it was horrible, only judging by what i saw and heard. But i guess i can only watch and hope its not all that bad. Im scared about dubbed Gaara and Lee, oh god if they screw up gaaras voice their dead!
Thank you for only judging the clip, although I believed it to be good, it's good that you did not judge the dub based on the clip. For all the other posters that say something to the effect of "THE DUB IZ DA SUXX0RS!", you have not seen the dub to even carry a valid opinion. Now saying "I believe the dub will suck" is okay by all means. For the last time, do not say what the dub isn't, we have not seen the dub, and it's only 4 days until judgement time.

Kinuta Dosu
09-07-2005, 04:08 PM
I don't know how anyone could like it...It sounded so terrible

I laughed all the way through it

TheVileOne
09-07-2005, 04:09 PM
The problem is that the Naruto otaku and elitists can't stand that people other than them that are younger than them are going to watch and enjoy this show. They want Naruto to remain as more of a cult, niche thing.

Dynamic Dragon
09-07-2005, 04:10 PM
OMG! this clip was so hilarious! the way they said each 'ooo' words haha XDDD
also that iruka's line going 'huh?'(when he turns around to the kunais) made him sound so dumb!

o i think they suit them but they need serious working on names and how to say it. i think the shudnt go oooo wen saying naruto i think they shud go 'na-ru-toh!'

i think Iruka got carried away with all the ooo in it lol
'mizoooki' 'naroooto' 'joootsu' lmao.

wonder what he'll sound like when he's crying with the shuriken in his back lol

vick86
09-07-2005, 04:22 PM
It's already like that in Japan. Naruto has always been a kids show.

Yeah, at least the japanese kids don't bother us on our forums and websites.

The problem is that the Naruto otaku and elitists can't stand that people other than them that are younger than them are going to watch and enjoy this show. They want Naruto to remain as more of a cult, niche thing.

I don't consider myself an Naruto freak or something, but i just don't like it when something goes from cult to being found cool by kids. I don't want poeple to say when i say i like Naruto that it's childish, I'd rather not having them know what it is at all. It's all about the image Naruto creates.

TheVileOne
09-07-2005, 04:26 PM
I don't consider myself an Naruto freak or something, but i just don't like it when something goes from cult to being found cool by kids. I don't want poeple to say when i say i like Naruto that it's childish, I'd rather not having them know what it is at all. It's all about the image Naruto creates.

Why? Does it make you feel like less of an adult by enjoying something kids do as well?

Seeing that the image of Naruto is a youthful hero and protagonist, it makes perfect sense why kids would like him. That makes him more appealing to kids of a young age.

You guys need to get over your superiority complex as anime fans.