View Full Version : To change or not to change? what's true strenght?
whitecrowz
09-05-2005, 05:43 PM
excuse me as my level in english is only average, I mighnt not exactly transmit what I'm trying to say so please try to catch the message.
Now if someone has an ideal, and sticks with it and battles and struggles to defend it; it's a form of strenght.
But if you manage to chang your viewpoint and hang your way of thinking cuz u realize u were wrong, that's also a form of strenght?
So what's the strongest way?
kapsi
09-05-2005, 06:03 PM
What's your point? I try to be open minded, as everyone else do.
Counterattack
09-05-2005, 07:35 PM
Well, if you really believe that you were wrong, or your way really wasn't the best way, it's okay to change your mind. A lot of people will see this as a weakness and give you shit about it to bring you down, but fuck 'em. At least you tried, right?
Well altering your ideals when you relize they are wrong is the strongest way. Think of it metaphoricaly: water always beats rocks.
NarutardKK
09-06-2005, 08:12 AM
See.....this is too broad of a question. One may take it as one situation while another person takes it as a completely opposite situation. It all depends on what you're going through and what the situation is. I don't think there is a possibility for generalization on a question like this.
princesstaco
09-06-2005, 10:20 PM
I think a truely strong person is one who knows which ideals to defend and which ones to change.
I think a truely strong person is one who knows which ideals to defend and which ones to change.
:D
yeah I agree!
JoshDB
09-07-2005, 02:03 AM
I'm open-minded... If I realize what I'm doing is wrong I'll change it, simple as that.
Marysmary
09-07-2005, 07:06 PM
I stick to being open minded..
It feels worse when you stick to your opinion..esp. when you're wrong.
zeoblade
09-08-2005, 03:21 AM
The strongest way is to choose the path that will keep improving you so it can be a combination of sticking to what is right and changing yourself when you are wrong
Stormy
09-20-2005, 04:00 AM
Does that mean sucking ass like you zeoblade???:laugh
zeoblade
09-20-2005, 10:41 AM
Why does this guy want to suck my ass?
MURPHY
09-20-2005, 09:45 PM
Dude your such an idiot zeoblade:P
Vicious ♥
09-21-2005, 09:37 AM
lol Murph you're the idiot here talking BS o_O
InEviTabLe.SiN
09-21-2005, 09:46 AM
Learning from your mistakes is the best strength anyone can have.
Inactive Roy
09-21-2005, 09:48 AM
I think it depends on the situation... If you're unhappy and decide to change yourself because if it you're a strong person, also if you're under pressure to change and stay true to yourself then in that situation you are also strong.
Negative-Ion
09-21-2005, 09:50 AM
It depends on the situation. Sometime you have to compromise even when your right.
CrazyMoronX
09-21-2005, 02:17 PM
Changing the way you believe once you've realized and accepted that you are wrong is much more difficult to do than defend a position no matter how futile it is.
I say it takes more strength to change than it does to defend, especially if you've held that belief for a long time.
Defending something no matter what when you know you're right has its merits, but it's easier to be asured in your beliefs and just say "screw it".
Dark Schneider
09-21-2005, 08:08 PM
Well, where I'm from we have a saying:
"Only the stupid and the deceased never change their views"
zeoblade
09-23-2005, 10:20 AM
Learning from your mistakes is the best strength anyone can have.
And you're also keep improving yourself too and get much stronger
As a human being, you are obligated to review and question your own beliefs throughout your life, and change them when you feel something is amiss. Thinking you're right about everything is the world's biggest thing to be wrong about. Socrates, anyone?
Yamainu
09-23-2005, 10:40 AM
Well, if you really believe that you were wrong, or your way really wasn't the best way, it's okay to change your mind. A lot of people will see this as a weakness and give you shit about it to bring you down, but fuck 'em. At least you tried, right?
I agree with Counterattack.
zeoblade
09-24-2005, 10:23 AM
So do I, if it's broken, then fix it. If it isn't broke then don't.
senisi
09-27-2005, 03:41 PM
It depends on the person...The way I see it is True strenghth lies in the eye of the beholder...So if you think changing's good than way to go! Some times you just got to be the bigger person...
Vicious ♥
05-28-2006, 01:05 PM
Well, where I'm from we have a saying:
"Only the stupid and the deceased never change their views"
Where you from? that's a crap saying btw.
wiggely
05-30-2006, 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Schneider
Well, where I'm from we have a saying:
"Only the stupid and the deceased never change their views"
Where you from? that's a crap saying btw
no that statement is true. the only exception to this saying would be someone who is perfect, and there aren't any perfect people.
of course the answer to this is to change. one should believe in what they do because of the best reasons support their view (this really doesn't apply to religion). if a time comes, which it does unless one is perfect, when you are presented with a different view that has even better reasons than your view, you should change. if your idea has better reasons to support it than the other view, you should stick with your view.
da_god
05-31-2006, 02:39 AM
YOu guys need to download some David Icke videos.
Those who control the Norms, Control the Society.
Now, who controls you???
I agree with Dark Schneider and Wiggley on this one.
-except, I am imperfect as an individual(HUMAN), but WE are perfect as a whole(GOD). The concept of being an individual is one's death.
narutosimpson
05-31-2006, 02:42 AM
Your ideas should stand on there own, not you stand to defend your ideas. Change is good when it's in the right direction :wink
Kapsis banned? :oh
GOD'S BITCH
06-08-2006, 12:25 PM
excuse me as my level in english is only average, I mighnt not exactly transmit what I'm trying to say so please try to catch the message.
Now if someone has an ideal, and sticks with it and battles and struggles to defend it; it's a form of strenght.
But if you manage to chang your viewpoint and hang your way of thinking cuz u realize u were wrong, that's also a form of strenght?
So what's the strongest way?
I tend to be very conservative and I'm not a big fan of change. Change shouls only occur if absolutely neccessary. Its harder to stick to your own principles especially if its outdated. Defending you ideal displays strength not conforming to the ideals of society.
wiggely
06-08-2006, 03:39 PM
Its harder to stick to your own principles especially if its outdated. Defending you ideal displays strength not conforming to the ideals of society.
what if your principles and ideals are wrong? and you discover this. this does happen to everyone since we all make mistakes. is it not right to change your views when you realize they could or are wrong?
Eden Prime
06-09-2006, 02:51 PM
Well, if your ideal is proven wrong or less effective, i think it would take strength to drop what you had been believing for something more effective. I mostly think true strength is being able to change in a world of people who don't know how to change because since birth humans copy[mimic] each other.
Insipidipity
06-09-2006, 03:10 PM
Each has their own strength(like said earlier, it's like saying which is stronger, water or rock), but I think change takes more wisdom than strength, whereas conviction requires more strength than wisdom.
Nothing lasts forever, it requires strength to stay in one place in a raging river, but it takes wisdom to know which path to take when it must diverge.
neko-sennin
06-12-2006, 09:14 PM
The only constant in this universe is change; true strength lies in being as supple and resillient as a reed.
At one end of the spectrum, something that is soft will bend any which way, and not be able to hold its shape, but something as hard as steel, when it reaches its limit, will only shatter. True strenght lies in being able to bend just enough to adapt, yet being just hard enough to remain true to yourself at the core.
It's a tough balancing act, which is why true strength is so hard to attain.
vervex
06-12-2006, 11:38 PM
My answer is not in the poll.... I say adaptation.
You can stick to your ideal and adapt it to the circumstances, the people, the time. Doing so, you are being polyvalent and strong at the same. Strenght is change, but also constance. Somewhere in the middle, the answer is burried. :)
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