"George Bush doesn't care about black people"

[Killa Cam]

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

So what's your view on this?

[Toby]

well, startling evidence...Is this a liable source?

Personally I think he hates all humans to put Bolton into the US`representative in the UN

[The Space Cowboy]

Kayne is ill-informed, and an idiot. Bush was the one who personally called the governor of Louisiana and prompted her to issue the mandatory evacuation order for New Orleans. Had the governor issued the mandatory evac order a day earlier, the city of New Orleans could have used its some 569 buses (New Orleans Regional Transport Authority had 364, New Orleans Public School system had about 205) to evacuate all the poor of New Orleans.
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded tourists, would be unable to leave, the city set up 10 places of last resort for people to go, including the Superdome.

The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could leave the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order because airlines had already cancelled all flights.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.



In other words, blaming the Federal gov't, especially Bush is inconsistent with reality. I ask you, what do you think would have happened if Bush had not appealed for a mandatory evacuation?

[abfluvver]

For those too lazy to click the link, here's the speech:

"I hate the way they portray us in the media. We see a black family that says they're looting. We see a white family that says they're looking for food & you know it's been five days because most of the people are black & even for me to complain about I would be a hyprocrite because I try to turn away from the TV because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before even giving a donation, so now I'm calling my business manager right now to see what's the biggest amount that I can give. And just to imagine if I was down there, those are my people down there, so anybody out there that wants to do anything with the setup the way America is setup to help the poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean the Red Cross is doing everything they can. We already realize that a lot of the people that can help are at war right now fighting another way and they've given them permission to go down & shoot us."
And then near the end he mutters "George Bush doesn't care about black people", and the look on Mike Myers' face is priceless.

Not commenting on the politics of the situation, since I've already covered that with people on places that aren't NF, and I don't feel like debating.

[Shikamaru-sama]

George Bush hates white poor people aswell though, he just prefers to electrocute black people.

[Potentialflip]

The way in which Killa Cam will understand what I think about this. Kanye West mad yo. He mad. He mad cause he instead of complaining why doesn't he do something about it. He mad cause he does not understand just like other huge natural disaster events the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana was unprepared to deal with this type of disaster. Sure they show people looting. Heck that is what people do. Does that mean black people are bad?! Well the white folks decided not to loot. They focused more on getting food and supplies. You can't blame the white folks for not deciding to loot?! Its sad. Really but that is uncalled for blaming people who is helpless through the current situation. But like I said Kanye just mad. He MAD.

[Shikamaru-sama]

Sure they show people looting. Heck that is what people do. Does that mean black people are bad?! Well the white folks decided not to loot. They focused more on getting food and supplies. You can't blame the white folks for not deciding to loot?!



http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8151/lootingandfinding4nu.jpg
From my Hurricane Katrina Thread

[Killa Cam]

Does that mean black people are bad?! Well the white folks decided not to loot. They focused more on getting food and supplies
There's no way you can say white people didn't loot. All the media shows is black people looting. I've only seen 2 pictures of white people "finding" items. If I was down there I'd be looting too. I would loot small expensive items, food, and supplies. Fuck looting plasma tvs with no where to put it. I do wonder if the situation would be handled differently if the majority of the people were white.

[Potentialflip]

From my Hurricane Katrina Thread
Yes Shikamaru-sama I know White People loot too. I'm not dumb. I've been through hurricanes I've seen it. Just pointing out something about kanye's comments which I think this is what its on. :)

Sorry if I weren't too detailed with it. I just don't like going into detail with this whole political issue. I mean this is just dumb. It's not easy being a leader of a free nation. Even if your not making a lot of the big decisions. It is hard.

[Shikamaru-sama]

Yes Shikamaru-sama I know White People loot too. I'm not dumb. I've been through hurricanes I've seen it. Just pointing out something about kanye's comments which I think this is what its on. :)

Sorry if I weren't too detailed with it. I just don't like going into detail with this whole political issue. I mean this is just dumb. It's not easy being a leader of a free nation. Even if your not making a lot of the big decisions. It is hard.

Oh yeah i know you werent saying that, i was more pointing out that there is soemthing definatly wrong with the attitude to black people in this whole disaster :)

[Tayuya (the banned one)]

Lmao, people think of anything to start a debate, eh?

What's with racist people these days...even people who aren't white are racist. It's annoying.

And I don't think that guy had any right to say Bush doesn't care about black people. I don't exactly like Bush, but that guy was just being an ass.

[Shunsui]

Even though this is a ridiculous topic to debate, the underlying topic is not. The federal government hasn't done nearly enough for those in New Orleans. For years the federal government has denied funding to strengthen the levees, and during the disaster it would've been possible to save many more people if the federal govt. issued an order to requisition helicopters from neighboring states to drop sandbags to strengthen the levees. Even now, the federal government is doing far too little. They aren't dropping food for hungry people, they aren't giving supplies to trapped, starving, and sick people, and those whom they are helping include the 20 thousand people that they intend to house in a baseball stadium for two months. TWO MONTHS.

How easy would it be for the government to requisition hotels in the vicinity to house these thousands of homeless? It's not like they're saving money by not paying to help them now - they'll be funding their survival for the next few months at the VERY least.

[Potentialflip]

Even though this is a ridiculous topic to debate, the underlying topic is not. The federal government hasn't done nearly enough for those in New Orleans. For years the federal government has denied funding to strengthen the levees, and during the disaster it would've been possible to save many more people if the federal govt. issued an order to requisition helicopters from neighboring states to drop sandbags to strengthen the levees. Even now, the federal government is doing far too little. They aren't dropping food for hungry people, they aren't giving supplies to trapped, starving, and sick people, and those whom they are helping include the 20 thousand people that they intend to house in a baseball stadium for two months. TWO MONTHS.

How easy would it be for the government to requisition hotels in the vicinity to house these thousands of homeless? It's not like they're saving money by not paying to help them now - they'll be funding their survival for the next few months at the VERY least.

You can't totally blame the government for not doing more. I'm sure while they new it was going to get hit and hard. No one was thinking this damage was going to happen where the city of New Orleans had to be fully evacuated cause it is not livable. From Friday to Late Saturday the cone was from the western part of Florida to as far as Mississippi. It wasn't until during the day Saturday that the path was possibly/eventually going towards Louisiana. Neighboring states had to hunker down as well and prepare for the Hurricane. This did not only hit Louisiana so don't think this is just a Louisiana thing. Mississippi and parts of Alabama were also affected by that Hurricane. The Levee's surprisingly wasn't going to do any difference. If there was anything that could have been done to help the city is if it were full mandatory evacuation for the city. That was it. There was nothing that was going to prevent the damage. The Levee's would have not been finished by this time even if they didn't cut the funding. The damage is shocking and right now they are just trying to get those people out to safety. Sure they could use nearby hotel's instead of the stadium. But it will be up to the Hotel to do such an action. Government can't force them they could ask them but can't force them.

[Blaze of Glory]

You people you shoul,ve renamed this topic to Geoge Bush is a complte crackhole fo rnot doing shit to help peopl cause he's afraid to waste a million or more to save Homeless who are suffering like hell. Also that movie was hella funny he's like "Geoge Bush doesn't care about Black people!":mad and the white guys like:blink "Ok...." and they're like please call....:laugh I laughed like hell after that."It's mesed up they won't let them stay at the hotel though.

[Near]

I would of looted the stores, If I was sitting in sewage for 7 days with no sign of real help, if I had kids starving, or are dehydrated. Its not like they can pay for it even if they had money. Its not like there is a person so deicated that they are going to start working at the flooded super market. Ok if they started stealing electrical equipment then that would have been rediculious. They need food and clothes, you think a store full of this stuff or a few stores of stolen good is going to really matter. DO you know how much its going to cost to re establish NO now?

People are like wow look at the black people shooting each other and looting, thats a small percentage, I am sure the majority down there want to just survive. If you put poor white community(yeah like the goverment would let that exist) in the same situation, some junky white man, who hasnt had his herion fix, who finds a gun, you think hes going to use it for good?

At this point its useless aruging, there are still PEOPLE (regardless white or black), down there, and they need to be saved.

[SSJKrillin]

i dont know. i found that pretty funny. you see the expression on mike myers face.

but is it really that hard to believe that bush is racist?

[Sharingan_18]

He mad cause he instead of complaining why doesn't he do something about it.
My thoughts exactly. If that guy has the time to complain, then he should have the time to get off his lazy ass and do something.

[Jester12]

Personally I don't think Bush cares about anyone who isn't a high millionire or billionire! He doesn't care if the poor people are black, white, blue, red or orange!

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

My thoughts exactly. If that guy has the time to complain, then he should have the time to get off his lazy ass and do something.

If you refering to Kanye West, what exactly do you want him to do?

Jump into the raw sewege of New Orleans and give a rap concert?

[GaaraFromTheHood]

Gaarafromthehood's wife take on this (she's black, we both live in NYC):
Bush does NOT care about black people. The media shows him only caring for white ppl that is in Missi. and not on Lousiana. In the pics they show him on a plane crossing to lousiana, but he wasn't there. He only went to the white communities to show support.

Gaarafromthehood - Maybe it's sub-conscious, but it's happening. When the tsunami hit, all the help got around the world in 1 day, but to go from a state to another state, it takes so long. I think that the help has been slow, and that the most affected have been the black people, and that's something that nobody can't deny. They are suffering with nothing to eat, desperate, and you are just letting them stay like that. Looking like savages like if nobody cares about them.
I think that's a shame on American History

[cool2not]

this is an audio clip of an interview with the major of New Orleans, Ray Nagin. it's a very powerful conversation that may shed some light on what the federal government has and has not done. it's relatively long but it's worth the wait, i was nearly in tears by the end of it.

http://www.zen41771.zen.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/WWL-AM%20Interview%20Nagin.mp3

[Mangarf]

george bush is just anASSHOLE!!!:mad

[Jester12]

Right on!!!

[Shishou]

So tired of people trying to use Bush as a scapegoat. Lets blame Bush for the Holocaust too. And for slavery. Hell, lets blame him for every innocent ever killed in the world. Fucking Bush.


Anyways, I'll juss have Foamy say how I feel aboot this whole situation.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/262703

[The Mist]

this is an audio clip of an interview with the major of New Orleans, Ray Nagin. it's a very powerful conversation that may shed some light on what the federal government has and has not done. it's relatively long but it's worth the wait, i was nearly in tears by the end of it.

http://www.zen41771.zen.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/WWL-AM%20Interview%20Nagin.mp3

Thanks for the link cool2not. I'm posting it to various forums I visit.

[BushidoPunk]

I've come to believe that maybe Bush isn't a people person.

[Jones]

you know what. kanye west is not in any way a person that should be able to give his opinion. i think all celebrities should just keep their mouths shut because they think they know more than us "common folk." if any of you remember way back when the Dixie Chicks dissed Bush or somthin and got really bed press from it. thats why most (not all, some might actually have something inteeligent to say) i think before showing your view on things you should do a little research into it first, not just looking at the news and saying, "OFMG!! I dont agree with him and I have power, lets use it!!!." that should apply to everyone really, except for the power part. plus, if you're opinion is being shaped by a rapper who's ego is the size of the world should really take a good look at your self.

[GaaraFromTheHood]

this is an audio clip of an interview with the major of New Orleans, Ray Nagin. it's a very powerful conversation that may shed some light on what the federal government has and has not done. it's relatively long but it's worth the wait, i was nearly in tears by the end of it.

http://www.zen41771.zen.co.uk.nyud.n...ew%20Nagin.mp3

This was very POWERFUL indeed cool2not. Me and my g/f were very touched and saddened to know that it's like that. I quote you on it on a separate thread so that the most ppl could read it/hear it. Let me know if you ok with it.

[GaaraFromTheHood]

you know what. kanye west is not in any way a person that should be able to give his opinion. i think all celebrities should just keep their mouths shut because they think they know more than us "common folk." if any of you remember way back when the Dixie Chicks dissed Bush or somthin and got really bed press from it. thats why most (not all, some might actually have something inteeligent to say) i think before showing your view on things you should do a little research into it first, not just looking at the news and saying, "OFMG!! I dont agree with him and I have power, lets use it!!!." that should apply to everyone really, except for the power part. plus, if you're opinion is being shaped by a rapper who's ego is the size of the world should really take a good look at your self.
I see where you coming from with this, but I just think Kanye is voicing his opinion because he has the medium's attention to do so, and I think he voices a lot of ppl's opinion of how things have gone down in Katrina's wake. I'm not saying that he's right or wrong, but he's touched by it and he's a black person and he has an opinion on it. He got cameras and he wanted to voice it. I'm sure he's going to help out a lot of money, so we can't just tell them shut up don't say anything when we expect millions of dollars from them(or he's just giving on his own). I think he's entitled to voice it.

[Chiru]

It's not easy being a leader of a free nation. Even if your not making a lot of the big decisions. It is hard.

And you would know this how?

Not only directed at Potentialflip:

Anyway, I think if this was a city where the majority of citizens were white, it would have been handled better. How the hell can you say that it isn't the federal government's fault?! It's their god damned job to protect their citizens! How is it that they can drop food and water from helicopters in the middle of nowhere, but they can't do that in New Orleans. Oh wait... They can. It just took them four fucking days to realize it. I have family in New Orleans. I'm worried about my aunts and uncles. This is disgusting! People aren't animals. People shouldn't be stuck out in Louisiana heat, on rooftops and bridges with no food! They knew a hurricane was coming. They had an idea of how much damage it would cause. They have no excuse. People are dying in the street. Dead people are floating around in the water. Its almost Sunday and the storm was when? Last Monday? I have never been so dissapointed in the country in my 14 years of life.

That's my two cents anyway.

[cool2not]

This was very POWERFUL indeed cool2not. Me and my g/f were very touched and saddened to know that it's like that. I quote you on it on a separate thread so that the most ppl could read it/hear it. Let me know if you ok with it.

the more people to hear this the better, of course you can quote it.

[ninamori]

Even though this is a ridiculous topic to debate, the underlying topic is not. The federal government hasn't done nearly enough for those in New Orleans. For years the federal government has denied funding to strengthen the levees, and during the disaster it would've been possible to save many more people if the federal govt. issued an order to requisition helicopters from neighboring states to drop sandbags to strengthen the levees. Even now, the federal government is doing far too little. They aren't dropping food for hungry people, they aren't giving supplies to trapped, starving, and sick people, and those whom they are helping include the 20 thousand people that they intend to house in a baseball stadium for two months. TWO MONTHS.

How easy would it be for the government to requisition hotels in the vicinity to house these thousands of homeless? It's not like they're saving money by not paying to help them now - they'll be funding their survival for the next few months at the VERY least.
Yep.

Also, Bush cut funding for something to do with wetlands, so the water didn't get soaked up like it should've.

(Yay for parents that talk politics over steak and salad xD)

They also said that if Bush had half a brain, the hurricaine wouldn't have had such a hugely negative impact.

[Shishou]

Cause obviously Bush is a jedi and can foresee these events. And America has an endless supply of money.

[The Mist]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6076/busyardrotate2kw.jpg
"With the improved resolution we count 255 buses in that one lot. That means at a capacity of 66 on board, 16,830 New Orleans residents could have been evacced out in one trip. Even if you have a lower capacity per bus, say 50 per bus, you're still getting nearly 13,000 out in one run. In an emergency mandatory evacuation, you could probably get away with putting more than 66 on each of those buses.

When he said that the buses are now expenses instead of assets, this is what he meant. Not only are those buses ruined, their disuse resulting in lives lost, but now they're spilling oil and gas out into the already polluted water. A spark near that slick could cause yet another fire and a whole new set of explosions."

related to that link cool2not posted above.

[Eden Prime]

Like i said in a different topic, Of course Bush hates black people, he's an old white man from Texas.

[opium4themasses]

Shishou, if Bush is not clairvoyant, then perhaps he should follow the advice of the people assigned to help prevent such catastrophies. Then again, this administration doesn't have a good record with scientists and research findings.

[Baka-san]

This video made me laugh my ass off. Mike Myers' face when Kayne says, "George Bush doesn't care about black people" is absolutely hillarious.

Mike just finishes up a sentence and then Kayne says that. It's great. And then Chris Tucker is startled and comes on. So funny.

[Killa Cam]

This video made me laugh my ass off. Mike Myers' face when Kayne says, "George Bush doesn't care about black people" is absolutely hillarious.

Mike just finishes up a sentence and then Kayne says that. It's great. And then Chris Tucker is startled and comes on. So funny.
Yeah the reactions are priceless. I'm thinking about buying a t-shirt.
http://www.cafepress.com/kaynes_comments

[shopaholic]

Even though this is a ridiculous topic to debate, the underlying topic is not. The federal government hasn't done nearly enough for those in New Orleans. For years the federal government has denied funding to strengthen the levees, and during the disaster it would've been possible to save many more people if the federal govt. issued an order to requisition helicopters from neighboring states to drop sandbags to strengthen the levees. Even now, the federal government is doing far too little. They aren't dropping food for hungry people, they aren't giving supplies to trapped, starving, and sick people, and those whom they are helping include the 20 thousand people that they intend to house in a baseball stadium for two months. TWO MONTHS.

How easy would it be for the government to requisition hotels in the vicinity to house these thousands of homeless? It's not like they're saving money by not paying to help them now - they'll be funding their survival for the next few months at the VERY least.

yeah i agree with you totally.

not enough had been done.. and it stinks


/me has been watching CNN most of the day ._. lol

and that lilnk w/ the speech thing ray nagin was just..wow like i felt soo bad ;x

[JoshDB]

Bush cares about Black people, simple as that. Just because some hick called him racist isn't any reason to say otherwise.

[cool2not]

George Bush is a politician; therefore he will "care about" anyone no matter what race, nationality, or sex, so long as they vote for him and share his views on major political agendas. But i give him enough credit to assume he wouldn't purposly delay aid for New Orleans just because a large percentage of the people there don't share his views. IMO it was caused by lack of communication between the local, state and federal goverments.

[lekki]

I swear, it's really pissing me off how people are so ignorant to the underlying problems over in Louisiana in the aftermath of the hurricane.

Ignoring the important points and instead doing things like attacking Kanye West for voicing his opinion in the matter.

Shikamaru-sama hit the nail on the head when he showed two different yahoo reports on the incident. One showed a young black man looting a store.

The other showed a young white man "finding food'" at a store. It's as simple as that.

Bigotry at its best yet people don't want to acknowledge the racial undertones of the whole situation.

Bush had better realize that hell is hot and that's exactly where he's going they way he's handling the situation.

F**king bastard.

[cube66]

Black don't have it easy in modern American culture because of: ignorance of black culture (seperation from their own heritage and pressure to assimulate), white's innate feelings of superiority over blacks, steriotyping, etc.

I had a kid in my class today mock a black kid's African last name when the teacher read it aloud, right in his face. :oh

Racism in general is everywhere, and the majority isn't doing enough to help the minority's disadvantages, nor respect and understand their culture and heritage.

[Kyuubi Naruto]

I swear, it's really pissing me off how people are so ignorant to the underlying problems over in Louisiana in the aftermath of the hurricane.

Ignoring the important points and instead doing things like attacking Kanye West for voicing his opinion in the matter.

Shikamaru-sama hit the nail on the head when he showed two different yahoo reports on the incident. One showed a young black man looting a store.

The other showed a young white man "finding food'" at a store. It's as simple as that.

Bigotry at its best yet people don't want to acknowledge the racial undertones of the whole situation.

Bush had better realize that hell is hot and that's exactly where he's going they way he's handling the situation.

F**king bastard.

You said exactly what I was going to say again. I agree with this post :laugh

[CABLE]

i don't care about Bush or whatever because i think he is an idiot so im not siding with bush, but who the fuck cares what Kanye West says? Hes an idiot who doesn't know shit about politics and beacause he was probably heard somewhere that Bush doesn't care about black people, he now takes that as a fact. He should be embarassed to say that on national television, what a complete jackass.

Yeah the reactions are priceless. I'm thinking about buying a t-shirt.
http://www.cafepress.com/kaynes_comments

I'd buy that shirt but since I'm white, if I were to wear that and since most people didn't see the kanye west thing, most people would think I was being racist or something.

[Hyuuga Kiri]

Bush is racist...

[kapsi]

Bush isn't racist...

[Edgecrusher]

Bush had better realize that hell is hot and that's exactly where he's going they way he's handling the situation.

F**king bastard.
Bush is a puppet, moron. He doesn't even make up all the executive branch of the government. He's like the monarch of England. Sure, he does have some freedom in his office, but he can't do whatever the hell he wants.

Bush is racist...
Even if he is racist, there've been more racist presidents than him in the history of the US. True it's something that shouldn't exist anymore, but it's like terrorism. It's widespread and impossible to get rid of because of differences and idiocy. Get over it, there's nothing special about racism.

[shopaholic]

Bush is a puppet, moron. He doesn't even make up all the executive branch of the government. He's like the monarch of England. Sure, he does have some freedom in his office, but he can't do whatever the hell he wants.
well the way i see it [this is just me] people often give him, alone. good credit for things. but when bad things happen its not him? its not like he's just an innocent bystander in the whitehouse
Even if he is racist, there've been more racist presidents than him in the history of the US. True it's something that shouldn't exist anymore, but it's like terrorism. It's widespread and impossible to get rid of because of differences and idiocy. Get over it, there's nothing special about racism.
so your saying that [IF] he is racist. that its fine because there were other racist presidents....?

[Miss CCV]

OHMAGAD! Not THIS again! I saw this video clip a few days ago! Kanye West is cool and all, but he shouldn't raise in issue like THAT on a public charity show aimed on HELPING Lousiana out! Mike Myers expression was so priceless haha!

Honestly, people shouldn't make RACE an issue during this tragedy! Next think we know, the racial issue will overshadow the tragedy itself when that was the focus in the first place. Instead of noticing miniscule "racial inequality" during this time of crisis, they should just concentrate on aiding the survivors and find more corpses.

Yes, I do think it's sad that Lousiana didn't get help until such late notice, but it's probably not because of RACE. Bush probably reacted too late (blargh) because he was concentrating more on Iraq and other countries, or he just assumed Hurricane Katrina wouldn't be as horrible as it really was (pssshhhhhhh).

THIS IS REALLY SAD INDEED...............

[Killa Cam]

I'd buy that shirt but since I'm white, if I were to wear that and since most people didn't see the kanye west thing, most people would think I was being racist or something.
Nothing racist about that. I need to get me some white friends and convince them to wear this..
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a228/a228.gif

[Kira Yamato]

I knew this topic would stir up some hard feelings about the situation in New Orleans. Let's just say that the government was slow to respond in this situation. Is George Bush racists? Let's just say that the Bush's hasn't been a great champion of the down trodden *looks at his health services get cut continously* =/ I really don't know don't know, and saying whether he is or isn't, is not going to change the fact that if it were some other area, aid would have gotten there much earlier. Race plays a factor but SES (socio-economic status) plays an even greater role. It just happens to be that a majority of the impovershed were Black, so a great injustice was done to the impoverished (which a majority of them was Black). I mean 70% of the population is Black in that area.



Some people say FEMA was slow, because it lost it's independent status and was part of Homeland security. But then again, wouldn't that fall under Bush's watch, (I'm assuming he wanted to strengthen Homeland security). Being here in Florida, Bush and aid for that matter was here much, more quicker than in Louisinana, it didn't help, that Bush was here very quickly in a better off area such as Palm Beach. -__-

But the main tragedy is that the people there who were struggling, living from paycheck to paycheck are now homeless, many more bodies will be found as waters recede and a culturally rich area will take many years to recover. Doling out the blame has it's place, but taking care of those people now is of the utmost importance.

[CABLE]

Nothing racist about that. I need to get me some white friends and convince them to wear this..
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a228/a228.gif

goddamn! that is classic. I'd love to wear that shirt but it'd be hard to get away wearing something like that where im from, everyone would be all, "OMG what does that mean, you are racist!!!!" not that it really effects me i just don't want to have people making jackass comments everytime i wear it. but great shirt, i am white and i'd so wear that.

[kapsi]

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4031/11262077933499ys.jpg

[Kusajishi]

It seems for me that Bush didn´t care for anyone, New Orleans has a long time asked for money to stronger the wall that crashed. If only Bush had given them the money nothing like this would have happened. Bush is shit.

[Vatatzes]

i dont think bush is racist i just think he is stupid and lazy. he didnt want to leave his vacation and since black people arent in his voting demographic he didnt bother. not like theyre going to vote republican anyways, except americans in general of all races did care because these people are americans regardless of race or voting patern. thats where he fucked up. oh and i love how the head of FEMA now releived of duty got the job based on no experince in terrorism or natural disaster but on his friendship to the Bush family. you always get the government you diserve i guess.

[AssFace]

Ummm to the dude two post above me......Lousiana recieved enough money to build a g5 wall to protect it from a hurricane, but they only built a g3.

But I don't disagree with kanye completely. Bush probably don't really care for black people, but I don't think he purposely left them there. But yeah he's just a stupid fuck who didn't want to leave his vacation.

[maxhrk]

yeah BUSH is the shit. nuff said.. wtf, he look cool while on vacation "oh? new orelean has be leveled? be back with you in two days.." "honey who was that?" "oh nothing big, new orelean just got creamed by a hurricane" "oh i see, dear, do you want ice cream?"

or something along that line.

[Crimson2816]

It's wouldn't have mattered if Bush was President or if it was some one else. The situation was handled badly, really badly and because he's President he's going to get blamed. I don't think Kayne should have said that just because he is a celebraty and people are going to follow and agree with him whether he's right or not. Still the situation down there is f'd up and it's still to early to blame anyone.

But I would like to ask anyone if they saw Bush's trip to Biloxi. If he's such a strong racist, how was he down in Biloxi hugged and kissing a black women and her daughter. This women walked right up to Bush and starting crying all over him and he hugged her and walked with her and hung out with her for at least 10 minutes. If he was truly a racist, I don't care if the camera's were there or not, he wouldn't have stayed with her like he did.

And one other point to make... black, white, pink and purple pocka dotted, these people were WARNED to leave. Even today on CNN there is a MANDATORY evacuation and there are people that are REFUSING to leave. Dumb butts who won't leave. The blame is everywhere not just Bush.

[Shinigami-Isshin]

the people who couldnt leave(not well off people)were black. you can warn someone all you want, but if they dont have the pecuniary funds to do that....

i think he doesnt care about black people. he was hugging on people because he was televised(and in an area with NO flooding) plus he was next to TD Jakes, one of the most powerful charismatic christian preachers in the US.(different on-air hugging) media is more powerful than self feelings. His VP's daughter is a lesbian but Cheneys wife wont even comment on how she feels on the subject farther than "i dont agree with the president" full stop. so even if he was a racist(although i doubt that, i just dont think he has blacks on his mind like clinton or carter or kennedy did) he still wouldnt show that on TV, not in this day and age.

ok the "it couldve been anyone" theory only works if some other president decided to go to war in a foreign country(this is not to bash bush for that) if they didnt go to war then they wouldnt have had to take money from these other state projects.

[tigerwoo]

interesting...


NOT!
i have white friends who wish blacks would stop "playing the race card" because of this event, and black friends who wish whites would stop "ignoring the injustice".

to me this is super boring. and yes, i will tell you strange narutofans why.
because it is. the fact is bush doesn't care about too many outside of his friends and family and those who will keep him comfortable. can you blame him? how much crime goes on your hometown? how often do you ignore panhandlers or bitch about other peoples problems?

i am not ashamed to admit i don't care about the people on the other side of the planet.

is it because the majority are black that they aren't getting the aid they need?
the question is irrelevant. it might be because they're black. it might be because they pay less taxes. it might be because they're southern. but you know if it happened in florida or california, things would be different.

the fact is BUSH DOESN'T CARE. why? i don't care. stop asking for reasons. you're worse than exgirlfriends who keep asking why you left. what matters is you've been dumped. move on.

[omni1337]

Black kids and thier stupid racism acts.. get over it damnit, stop acting like outsiders, and act normal stop trying to be bulletproof 50 cent..... I know there are many very well educated smart black people.. but just cause your black you don't need to be a stupid one, hell white kids are worse.. I should know..

[earthshine]

A Rich Texan Dosent Care About Black People!!!?? Holy Shit, Sombody Call Cnn!!!

[Dimezanime20]

I heard that Mrs.Bush said "They are used to living in that type of condition. It shouldn't be a problem to wait" or something like that. My teacher said she meant to say that as in "they don't have that much money" but it came out wrong. That was a clear aim at the black people. Don't get me wrong, there are white people there as well, but the majority is blacks.

[skunkworks]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_washington;_ylt=AnYblBndxeAPKr0PJdw2Wsqs0N UE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Now about 9/11.

[eternally]

That's just plain, utter bullshit.

I've lived in Texas under Bush as the governor before, and trust me, neither the Texan government nor Bush never did anything to discriminate against any race. In his 7 years of presidency, he never did anything that the general public would base their accusations of him being racist off of. I've said this before many times and I'll say it again: it's utterly retarded to immediately blame EVERYTHING on racism without any considering secondary (more legitimate) reasons, no matter how big or small the injustice.

What Kanye did just pissed me off. If you hate Bush, it's ok. Half of the country does, anyway. But to go on live, national television and explicitly accuse someone of being racist without any proof other than a filmsy, media-brewed conspiracy is ridiculous and inane. He's merely perpetuating racism, rather than opening the country's eyes to it. See how the white men were booing him while the black people were applauding him during his performance at that football game? What good that that do for gaining understanding between races?

[earthshine]

I've lived in Texas under Bush as the governor before, and trust me, neither the Texan government nor Bush never did anything to discriminate against any race. In his 7 years of presidency, he never did anything that the general public would base their accusations of him being racist off of. I've said this before many times and I'll say it again: it's utterly retarded to immediately blame EVERYTHING on racism without any considering secondary (more legitimate) reasons, no matter how big or small the injustice.

twas a joke, calm down

[shopaholic]

la la la o_- *bump* just wa nted to say this
I heard that Mrs.Bush said "They are used to living in that type of condition. It shouldn't be a problem to wait" or something like that. My teacher said she meant to say that as in "they don't have that much money" but it came out wrong. That was a clear aim at the black people. Don't get me wrong, there are white people there as well, but the majority is blacks.
lol ;x
mrs. bush said something like 'they were underprivilidged anyway. they are almost benefit-ing from this' or something along those lines.

[metalanime]

well, most black people, or maybe not most, but a lot of them will talk trash to people of other races, especially white people, and as soon as someone retaliates they start crying racism and playing the victim. A white guy could walk into a black neighborhood minding his own business and get harrassed by the people who live there because he is white, then he comes back with friends and puts a beat down on the people who harrassed him in the first place, and it suddenly becomes a hate crime. There are alot of black people who wont even admit to thier own faults. Bill Cosby is going around the country giving speeches to black people on how they need to start making thier own effort to progress in life and society instead of just playing the victim, and alot of black people are mad cause he is saying that and keep insisting that they cant do anything, even though other races come into the country and make progress on thier own. I think alot of black people are just raised with the "im a victim of the man" mentality and just accept what they are born into because they have always been here in america and have only seen one side and believe thats all thier is.

Still, its possible that bush and other government factions may have delayed stepping in to help with stupid excuses. As for the "I've lived in Texas under Bush as the governor before, and trust me, neither the Texan government nor Bush never did anything to discriminate against any race." comment, its not like bush is just gonna go out on public tv and say "I dont like black people." In order for a public person to discriminate against a race successfully, and by that I mean without getting busted or just having an excuse, first, they cant say anything, and second they need the opportunity to do so. Katrina is the perfect opportunity if that was his intention.

Either way, bush is a nutsack who is too incompitent to run a business, much less the entire country. Just cause he was born from a billion dollar family he gets all these opportunities, which is bs. I dont see why it isnt a requirement of the President of the U.S. to be compitent and do the job properly. Why should a crime be required to get the boot? Job performance and accountibility should be part of keeping the job. Bush was the national joke when he became pres., but as soon as 9-11 happened everyone respected him even though all he did really was say a predictable speech and send people to war. the entire counry is on a downward spiral right now, but thats just what I think

[dark_nemesis_7]

Well, that pretty much sums it up.

[Asmodai]

well, most black people, or maybe not most, but a lot of them will talk trash to people of other races, especially white people, and as soon as someone retaliates they start crying racism and playing the victim. A white guy could walk into a black neighborhood minding his own business and get harrassed by the people who live there because he is white, then he comes back with friends and puts a beat down on the people who harrassed him in the first place, and it suddenly becomes a hate crime. There are alot of black people who wont even admit to thier own faults. Bill Cosby is going around the country giving speeches to black people on how they need to start making thier own effort to progress in life and society instead of just playing the victim, and alot of black people are mad cause he is saying that and keep insisting that they cant do anything, even though other races come into the country and make progress on thier own. I think alot of black people are just raised with the "im a victim of the man" mentality and just accept what they are born into because they have always been here in america and have only seen one side and believe thats all thier is.
well in some cases that is infact true, racism as an excuse has become something i think is more and more done than noticed, by media etc.

Still, its possible that bush and other government factions may have delayed stepping in to help with stupid excuses. As for the "I've lived in Texas under Bush as the governor before, and trust me, neither the Texan government nor Bush never did anything to discriminate against any race." comment, its not like bush is just gonna go out on public tv and say "I dont like black people." In order for a public person to discriminate against a race successfully, and by that I mean without getting busted or just having an excuse, first, they cant say anything, and second they need the opportunity to do so. Katrina is the perfect opportunity if that was his intention.
most of the more welthy americans didn't even knew new orleans was occupied by sucha large population of afro americans, the line between poor and rich can go very far, it's just that it all comes to light since there is something going on like katrina, besides that the media and such would be dumb to even mention anything about it by giving away a bad image of there patriotic country, bah.

Either way, bush is a nutsack who is too incompitent to run a business, much less the entire country. Just cause he was born from a billion dollar family he gets all these opportunities, which is bs. I dont see why it isnt a requirement of the President of the U.S. to be compitent and do the job properly. Why should a crime be required to get the boot? Job performance and accountibility should be part of keeping the job. Bush was the national joke when he became pres., but as soon as 9-11 happened everyone respected him even though all he did really was say a predictable speech and send people to war. the entire counry is on a downward spiral right now, but thats just what I think
bush isn't the real doer here, those are the people who control him, like dick cheney, the people that get everything to know 20 min before he does, that make his decisions, that control a world force.
9/11 was merely an excuse to invade iraq and begann a strict policy there, and secure resources. . .

[therealultimatepower]

You have to analyze what Kanye said. He never said George Bush "hates" black people, he says George Bush "does not care about Black people." Simply not caring about people doesn't count as racism. It just makes you a jerk.

[ExAzrael]

Man I felt SOO bad for mike mikers in that clip..

Kanye: "Blah blah blah Black people looting blah blah blah white people finding food blah blah"
Mike: "..please..donate to the red cross and help the victims.."
Kanye: "George bush doesn't care about black people!"
Mike "....."

Poor guy. Lol

Secondly I feel that Kayne is an idiot. He could barely form his sentences. Thirdly, he is partcially right about the whole black people portrayed as looting and white people are finding food. I mean look at the pics posted on the first page. They look quite the same, ne?

Also....FUCKING WAL-MART had a better response to this hurricane than the government did.

WAL-MART.

also. Here. Watch this. Excuse the webpage title. It was the first site to come up that had the clip. :x
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001798.htm(find your preferred version)

...The guy who runs this building I’m in, Emergency Management, he’s responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and [voice cracking]every day she called him and said, “Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?” and he said, “Yeah, Mama, somebody’s coming to get you.” Somebody’s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Friday… and she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night! [Sobbing] Nobody’s coming to get us. Nobody’s coming to get us…


Don't think I'm relying soley on the internet for my information about this disaster. I was there. I live in Long Beach, MS. Look how close that is to Waveland, MS. I know what the hell is going on here.

[MartialHorror]

My opinion,

Bush isn't well educated but he is smart enough to know how badly his opinion would drop if he just let his views(assuming he is like that) get in the way there.

I don't agree with the statement about Bush not caring for black people.

He just puts the wrong people around him. That's his big problem.

[KakashiPwns]

Hmmmm, I could have sworn that Kanye has absolutely NO experience in politics or life. Just cause you got hit by a car doesn't mean you can just say Bush is a racist when there is evidence against you. Condaliza(sp?) Rice is black and is at one of the highest ranks in the government.

[fma_lover15]

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

So what's your view on this?


Gorge Brush doest care about anything but his ass... to not be very foward....

I HATE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad
do I have to say much more??? even about thinking about me makes me puke

[Nybarius]

Hmmmm, I could have sworn that Kanye has absolutely NO experience in politics or life. Just cause you got hit by a car doesn't mean you can just say Bush is a racist when there is evidence against you. Condaliza(sp?) Rice is black and is at one of the highest ranks in the government.

Yeah, she's the White House nigra.

[Reznor]

What's with racist people these days...even people who aren't white are racist. It's annoying. ....

Because white people are usually racists? Realize the irony of that?

[Chamcham Trigger]

Lmao, people think of anything to start a debate, eh?

What's with racist people these days...even people who aren't white are racist. It's annoying.

And I don't think that guy had any right to say Bush doesn't care about black people. I don't exactly like Bush, but that guy was just being an ass.
Lol Tayuya. Every race has had racist people within the midsts for like the begining of civilization. Almost everyone has some sort of racism in their hearts, it's all about how much of it people have due to prejudice and ignorance and how they act upon it to see if they are a real racist or not.

Oh and I have a question. If people are debating on this then what's the difference between the debate forum and the Philosophical forum:huh? (http://www.mediaupload.net/images/2005/Oct/02/h0cUzsr3fbrl.jpg)

[Lord Itachi]

George does care... just dont want too much people. we have to depend on ourselves too not just him

[Hyuuga RoseSignet]

I don't think it's too much to ask that your government come and help you when a naturall disater hits. In my opinion Bush doesn't care about anyone but himself. If he or anyone else in his admistration cared about humanity (white black whatever) the recovery efforts after Katrina hit would've been shift.

I do think that race played a role. If a predominantly affluent white area had been hit the response and even the preparations leading up to the storm would've been different.

[Quoll]

Hmmmm, I could have sworn that Kanye has absolutely NO experience in politics or life. Just cause you got hit by a car doesn't mean you can just say Bush is a racist when there is evidence against you. Condaliza(sp?) Rice is black and is at one of the highest ranks in the government.

Condoleeza is about as black as Bush. Actually, when Bush was in NO that clip of him w/ the crying black lady probably covered more time w/ black people than Condoleeza has spent since the Clinton administration.

[mnorth]

Uhh, the link is not working...

[memback]

Yes Shikamaru-sama I know White People loot too. I'm not dumb. I've been through hurricanes I've seen it. Just pointing out something about kanye's comments which I think this is what its on. :)

Sorry if I weren't too detailed with it. I just don't like going into detail with this whole political issue. I mean this is just dumb. It's not easy being a leader of a free nation. Even if your not making a lot of the big decisions. It is hard.

Well of course its hard but we expect alot. So if your not up to par get the fuck out! Let someone else have a go!

[slimscane]

Fine, if you really want me to, I will be your new president. I care about black people.

[9Tail-Hokage]

What was funny was the shot that Family Guy took at Bush for that whole Katrina thing.

Brian: But President Bush, this needs your immediate attention!

Bush: *cowers in his tree house* Please don't make me do things.

[Dav1s]

personally i believe the only reason bush is president is because his daddy can't run for election anymore if he actually does care about middle and lower class people i don't know and highly dought. There was an exceptionally slow response by the government to each disaster and i believe president Bush is responsible for it.

[Dav1s]

(nine tail-hokage) did you see the episode where peter was entertaining bush

[Miharu_Watanabe]

lol oh yeeaahh I LOVED that priceless expression on Mike Myers face when Kanye West said "Geroge Bush doesn't care about black people".

The funniest part of it all (other than the expression on Myers face) was when 50 cent called the President a gangsta :oh ............
ROFLMFAOOOO AHAHA :laugh smile-big That was amazingly awkward and amazingly random.

For more info. cheky...
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1514482/20051123/50_cent.jhtml?

[sharingan_clan213]

Bush might have acted to slowly and that is why Kanye believes in this. Bush was just lazy..maybe he didnt even know there was somethin like this...maybe he was out playing golf and sippin some drinks.

[Bubbles]

George Bush doesn't care about the rest of the world either! Pretty much everyone outside of America hates him!

XX

[rimpelcut]

you don't know him so shut up with the gossip

[Batman]

Bush doesn't care about poor people. The media hates black people.

[SilverCross]

BLAME BUSH FOR EVERYTHING! congress and senate, what are they? what do they do? dont they help make decisions?? cant they over turn what the president does??
NO, that cant be true! surely they have no power over the mighty bush! if they did then...then..maybe people would realize they cant blame bush for everything wrong in the world! surely only bush has control over the decisions, so lets blame him! YAY!!!

summarization: its not just bush, hes dont some questionable stuff yes, but he cant do anything with out support from the senate and congress, who in turn can over throw anything he decides, if they feel the need. meaning, you cant just blame bush, its the whole goverment kids :)


(i apologize for the first half of my post, just a rant from reading way to many things attacking only bush.)

[Batman]

Bush is an easy target because he's the dumbest president we've ever had.

[SilverCross]

out of what, 43, you say hes the dumbest, seen the schools he went too? (yea, i know some kid will come in here and say his daddy paid to get him threw or somethin like that) cant be to dumb to get there, america did vote him in to after all.

people say hes dumb cause of how he talks. tho come down south, alot of us talk that way, not everyone can talk all profesional like clinton could. tho he wasnt so great either now was he? sure did sound smart tho....

[Batman]

Out of all of the presidents he has the lowest I.Q. Why are you arguing with your assumptions about my statement?

[Robotkiller]

No george w bush doesnt care about poor people.

[SilverCross]

assumption, you assume i refer to just your statement, thats for everyone. and uh IQ doesnt really mean much, some of the "smartest people" can be complete idiots as well.

good example, look at the majority of honor students :p

[Batman]

assumption, you assume i refer to just your statement, thats for everyone. and uh IQ doesnt really mean much, some of the "smartest people" can be complete idiots as well.

good example, look at the majority of honor students :p

Shut up. :noworry You were obviously responding to my post, and now you're looking for someone to argue with. I'm done.

[SilverCross]

great argument there kid "shut up" ill have to remember that one.

for someone who tries to say im assuming, you then attacking me for saying you did the same thing?

im not looking for an argument, just debating. i guess people who dont just go attacking Pres. Bush arnt welcome in this thread. and thats just sad.

[Razgriez]

Bush is an easy target because he's the dumbest president we've ever had.

Uh huh...

Look at George's wife then look at Hillary and Monica and then ask the question: Who is the dumbest president?

[Peliqua]

Uh huh...

Look at George's wife then look at Hillary and Monica and then ask the question: Who is the dumbest president?

I'm not sure what you mean by this... if you mean that the guy has made out well with his wife and kids, and is therefore not a moron, I'd have to say that's a really stupid way of measuring the guy's intelligence, or ability as a president.

[Razgriez]

I'm not sure what you mean by this... if you mean that the guy has made out well with his wife and kids, and is therefore not a moron, I'd have to say that's a really stupid way of measuring the guy's intelligence, or ability as a president.

It was a joke about who picked the hottest chicks to go out with.

Clinton married Hillary who is for all we know the 3rd anti-christ and if she ever becomes president I wouldnt be surprized if the world comes to an end.
Monica... she wasnt exactly... the most attractive female Ive ever seen... she was a bit too "heavy".

Bush's wife. Damn... and his daughters? :D

Anyways, its about as sensible as the rest of you idiots judge Bush. Because you cannot pronounce some damn country you've never heard of doesnt mean you got a fucking IQ of 70! >.<

[GOD'S BITCH]

I don't think Bush likes anyone.

[rimpelcut]

I think you should all get to know him, he is a dope muthefucker

[Beren]

Im azn, but outta the blackness of my heart, I will say that George Bush's reaction to Hurricane Katrina focused more on saving his popularity (or lack of) rather than saving black ppl :P

[Raikoh]

Wait WHAT? Harvard bred politicians don't care about poverty-stricken, corner hugging minorities? SINCE WHEN? FUCK THE WHAT?

Kanye said what everyone who's lived in a ghetto already knows.

In other words, nooooooooooooooooo shittttttttttttt.

Kanye is the man. Fuck whoever dislikes him.