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nick1689
11-19-2009, 07:48 AM
Davy Back I - R1M14

1. Vote clearly on the victor. You must state a reason why you feel that team would win. Your vote is voided if: You don't have a reason stated, you have less than 100 posts (unless it is decided differently), and if you don't put I vote for: (Participant Name here) at the end of your post.

2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other person, then only that vote will count.

3. No filler abilities, none period.

4. No character hype, yes Kenpachi is fucking awesome, but please try and be serious and just go off their skills

5. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST character's are in play. (eg Soi Fon and Yoruichi Shihōin will work well together) EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 377 AND BEFORE (this will be updated for each tournament hereafter).

6. There is no prep time. But your characters have unlimited time before a match where they can discuss strategy and share knowledge etc. But no actions may be taken before a match.

7. The Incharacter Rule:
Characters will do their best to follow a strategy. They will happily attack the enemy (even Pesche Guatiche and Dondochakka Bilstin will attack Neliel Tu Oderschvank if she is the enemy). Characters have no fear (Marechiyo Ōmaeda will not run away unless directed to). When left with nothing to do and no guidelines, characters will behave incharacter as they would do in the manga.

8. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.

9. A strategy cannot plan for things the characters have no knowledge of. For example, a team cannot plan for Zommari Leroux's Amor if no one on that players team has knowledge of it.

10. If both combatants have equal votes after 72 hours the match will be extended by 24 hours. If the winner of the match has not been determined after the 24 hour extension, the match will go into sudden death, next vote wins. If a single combatant hasn't posted his/her strategy within 48 hours of the match starting, they are disqualified for not supplying a strategy within reasonable a time for the match to be fairely debated. If both combatants haven't posted their strategy within 48 hours of the match starting they are both disqualified.

11. If combatant X has read combatant Y's strategy and posted a direct counter strategy, combatant X is disqualified for poor sportsmanship. Combatants are not allowed to read the others strategy until both strategies have been posted. It is recommended that the first strategy to be posted is in spoiler tags to avoid any accidental reading.

Location: Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio's Rooms - Short

BlackSmoke
Jesus, Buddha and the Virgin Orohime...

Hachi - 38
HM Ishida - 16
Orohime - 10
Rudobon - 8
Hanju Shiba - 1
Shrieker - 1

vs

Musashi
Valkyrie

Zaraki Kenpachi - 38
Kuchiki Byakuya - 24
Kuchiki Rukia - 6
Shūhei Hisagi - 6

VastoLorDae
11-19-2009, 07:59 AM
Muhashi should easily take this, sorry BS, but your really gonna have to post a damn good strat.

Kobe
11-19-2009, 08:01 AM
subscribed.

Cycloid
11-19-2009, 02:48 PM
Muhashi should easily take this, sorry BS, but your really gonna have to post a damn good strat.

BS's support are not as useless as they look especially in an enclosed room. The only problem may be the starting distance.

BlackSmoke
11-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Wow I blow =[

nick1689
11-19-2009, 11:13 PM
Sorry BS, you cant edit your strat once youve posted it. Seems that with this strat, all your chars are IC :hurr

BlackSmoke
11-19-2009, 11:15 PM
X_X I hope your joking man...Otherwise I stand no chance, plus sometimes I have to go away for a sec....I've done this before though o.o...
Please be joking :(

nick1689
11-19-2009, 11:17 PM
I half am. You shouldnt post your strat up bits at a time (Ive never actually seen anyone do that =/). Just post it up all at once once youve finished it. Delete the post and post it all at once once it's done

BlackSmoke
11-19-2009, 11:21 PM
Miracle Strategy (100% done (I went overboard sorry :cry) ) :U ???


Knowledge:
Hachi- None
HM Ishida- None
Orohime- Almost full?
Rudobon- Full
Hanju- None, Kenpaichi saw him run away
Shrieker- Full he fought Rukia

My knowledge on his team...
Zaraki Kenpachi - Full we got description from Hanju. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/104/19/) Orohime saw his fight against Noitora.
Kuchiki Byakuya - None?
Kuchiki Rukia - Almost Full from Rudobon & Orohime
Shūhei Hisagi - None

Preparation:
Memorize plan and the contingencies. Everyone shares all their abilities and battle history. Hachi and Ishida are the battle commanders, they will shout out the orders as need be. We respond logically and swiftly and will adapt to the situation if need be IC if a problem should arise. Orohime gets on her knees and bathes everyone's feet in fragrant oils and perfumes before the match starts.

~*I respect you Musashi, and may the best strategist win! Let's have a good game.*~

Strategy:
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000154532/03.jpg
All actions take place as swiftly and fluid as possible, characters will use sound judgment and close in distance to use attacks effectively if need be. Really long, but it happens fast. Thanks for reading.
Game Start;
Ishida quickly tosses off some Seele Schneiders (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/257/19/)and vials to Rudobon.
We open up by having Ishida Jump up and charge and keep firing off Licht Regen (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/349/09/). This move is stronger then 1200 arrows, because he choose to use it against R2 Ulq, instead of shouting "1200 arrows". Anyone without Espada rank 5+ Hierro is taking serious fatal damage form LR(if in his mind 1200 is better he uses that <.<). Ishida will be targeting Byakuya, disrupting any kido he attempts to throw at us. He will also after the first initial burst at Byakuya, fire a barrage at Hisagi and Rukia, taking them out like the fodder they are. (If Ishida can manage to during the tear smoke bombs Ganju volleys off, he will snipe Kenpaichi in his unpatched eye. (Meaning Kenpaichi is fighting blind :hehee)

Ganju will be directing Tear Smoke Bombs (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/89/08/)at the enemy team at the start. He will throw a Volley of three to five for a area of effect range. Notice how if it gets in your eye (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/89/08/) you will automatically close your eyes as a reflex. (This is meant primarily to disrupt/stun/remove their LOS and this makes Kenpaichi's day bad since he only has one see to with.)

Rudobon will make his Calaberas. His first wave of Caleberas have a simple job to sonido (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/317/11/) and jump (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/317/12/) Kenpaichi & CO.
He will aslo tell one group of 5 to setup a Sprenger Trap (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/276/04/) and activate it around the enemy team.

Shrieker is to send swarm after swarm of his Miniature Bugs (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/10/17/). The Mini Bugs when in range, will fire off Leeches (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/10/10/). They're to aim for the head primarily the eyes. Once Shrieker gets the setup right he will whistle,detonating (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/10/12/) the leeches. This will as a result render the enemy blind.

Hachi and Orohime will work in a tag team during the game start. Hachi will make some kido planks (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/369/05/) and expand them (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/369/06/), with 150 meters he has more then enough time to make them. He did this at a even closer distance then in the manga, and was fast enough to intercept an attack. He will quickly say incantation to reinforce (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/369/07/) the planks. Hachi will strategically move (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/369/08/) the planks to intercept any lethal attacks coming towards my teammates, or even quickly knock away a foe. Note the size (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/369/08/) of the planks compared to that of Hachi. These are huge planks; after all Hachi is a very very large man (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/228/10/). You see his size compared to a regular human girl. *The room is big enough to facilitate any really huge attacks or people like Po/Sajin's(:hur) Bankai...so room should be able to take the kido planks.
Orohime will quickly recover Hachi's reistsu with her Shun Shun Rikka so he is at his max.(if he doesn't believe 150 meters isn't enough time to do the kido planks he won't, he should be able to do it since he did it at a much shorter range :hur)

*Orohime will spam lifesaver shielding (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/341/18/) in case of something dangerous, throughout the match. My team shouldn't be getting hit to the point where she is healing people =]

Mid Game; Divine Bondage, the Orohime & Hachi combo: While Kenpaichi & his team are occupied with

tear gas bombs
leeches exploding in their eyes
Litch Regen interrupting their kido casters and generally killing them
rudobon ganging them
and a sprenger trap going off around them.

Hachi and Orohime will close in closer, 30 meters or so is supposedly how far I can cast his bakudo.
Our first target so to say is Kenpaichi. We know he is dangerous due to the knowledge we have on him. We approach swiftly using the kido planks if necessary to intercept or bar a dangerous attack, if needed. Orohime will use SSR (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/310/06/) to impede Disabled Kenpaichi's path (He should be blind or have trouble with his LOS due to my opening attacks at the least+Calebaras are bothering him+ Leeches blowing his visible eye up.)

Hachi goes Vaizard (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/11/). While wearing his Vaizard mask hachi has been shown to be able to cast more then one (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/11/) demon arts on multiple targets (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/366/11/). This is crucial, that I establish this as a fact.
Orohime drops the SSR over Kenpaichi, as Hachi casts Gochu Tenkan(without incantation) (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.08/14/) on all the enemy combatants within his 30 meters casting range. As a safety precaution Hachi follows up that bakudo with Bakudou 99: Kin (without incantation) (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.09/09/) solely on Kenpaichi. He should have dropped his weapon by now. Orohime is to recover any reitsu Hachi has lost all. Hachi takes off the mask and casts Bakudo 63 (without incantation) (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.08/16/) on Kenpaichi's sword.

End Game:
We finish off the binded and unequipped Kenpaichi. We stab him through his visible eye and cut his throat (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/307/17/). Kenpaichi said himself that everyone can be cut in the throat or stabbed through the eyes. Vaizard Masked Hachi with his zanpaktou will be able to do this. We continue are offensive the enemy should be weaken from being blinded various ways and that sprenger trap. Some other people should have also been binded during the Divine Bondage phase. We continue to cast binding bakudo on anyone left unbinded, should just be Byakuya left barely alive. We can for fun make a cross out of kido planks and use a bakudo 63 to tie a barely alive Byakuya to it as we pierce his sides and let him bleed to death :zaru. If Ishida has a clear shot during tear gas bombs or any distraction shenanigans or anyone binded he will attempt to snipe the saketsu. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/259/04/) This will be very easy on someone like Kenpaichi who is a manly brute willing to take attacks to the chest. No, it is pretty impossible to remove Character Induced Stupidity in a character :U.

I think I covered everything. all things happen as fast as possible.


What ifs
They run? and don't blitz/engage us off the bat?
We pursue them with the above plan and Ishida snipes the saketsu, (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/259/04/) of anyone with their backs turned to us (this counts for game start too b). HAchi gets time to build a huge fortress of kido planks and have Orohime replenish him to full reitsu and we go on a assault, binding and smashing:zaru

good game

nick1689
11-19-2009, 11:38 PM
Alright bro X_X Holy Orohime you almost gave me a panic attack. o.o

It's what I do :zaru

squilliam
11-20-2009, 12:03 AM
nick, I'm pretty sure there's absolutely nothing wrong with editing your strat once it's posted, as long as the other contestant has not posted their's.

In fact, I think you're the one that told me that in the first place.

Candy
11-20-2009, 09:10 AM
Blacksmoke should win

BlackSmoke
11-20-2009, 09:22 AM
Candy thanks for the encouragement :awesome

I'm going to provide evidence that Ishida is at the skill level where he could snipe the eye. He has shown discretion where he hits on the opponent even when he just rapid fires a bunch of arrows, with scans of course....but eh...

eh but that's for later I guess...

nick1689
11-20-2009, 10:10 AM
nick, I'm pretty sure there's absolutely nothing wrong with editing your strat once it's posted, as long as the other contestant has not posted their's.

In fact, I think you're the one that told me that in the first place.

As long as its not from the adive of spectators... Im kinda drunk atm but hear me out. Its odd posting your strat up bit by bit. It's neve really happened before. If youre doing that and the opponent post their strat while youre still posting bits of yuors up, you cant post anymore...

Its jsut safer to post it up at once, no need to go biut by bit

migukuni
11-20-2009, 10:13 AM
BS who is jesus in your team? ishida?

nick1689
11-20-2009, 10:18 AM
He's referring to me

migukuni
11-20-2009, 10:29 AM
zaraki? but nick, your not in his team

BlackSmoke
11-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Naw, I guess Nick means he died for my sins....:LOS
God, I'm so horny right now. Going for a jog :datass

Darth
11-20-2009, 01:54 PM
God, I'm so horny right now. Going for a jog :datass

lol what? :lmao

Cycloid
11-20-2009, 03:34 PM
Interesting strat. I expected as much


Naw, I guess Nick means he died for my sins....:LOS
God, I'm so horny right now. Going for a jog :datass

wait what...?:huh

DookieMonster
11-20-2009, 07:21 PM
Where's Musashi's strat =o

Kobe
11-20-2009, 07:35 PM
I'll probably post it tomorrow.. sorry for the delay.. I'm quite tired right now.

Kobe
11-21-2009, 05:01 AM
Strategy

As the match begins, Byakuya unleashes the Senbonzakura.. As Kenpachi searches for the enemy with bloodlust in his eyes, Rukia unleashes Tsugi no mai, Hakuren towards the enemy.. so at this point Senbonzakura and the ice flow from Tsugi no mai, Hakuren goes towards the enemy.. Hisagi will also unleash his Kazeshini and he'll send Hado 11:Tsuzuri Raiden to go along with Rukia's and Byakuya's initial attacks.. (all of these happen simultaneously)

[You can look all those spells from here (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kido), I dont want to write every one of them seperately... ]

... and as those attacks go in motion, Kenpachi in front, Rukia in right and Hisagi in left advance towards the enemy using Shunpo.. Byakuya will be right behind and he will be ready to cast whichever Kido spell he knows.. He can cast Bakudo 81: Danku for defending purposes as well as Hadō: Sho and Byakurai in combo to deal with enemy.. As Sho pushes the enemy, other attacks will follow the previous one to destroy the enemy.

We have no specific target, room is small and starting distance is also not long.. it's open for Kenpachi to blitz.. but we'll not be reckless.. we'll move as a team.. If it goes to team vs team, I've already advantadge with all those casters and brute force.. if they split, we will take them down immediately with 4-man team.. it's as easy as like this.

Hado and Bakudo skills will be cast in IC in order to make sure we're winning.. We'll help each other and like I said, team work is the priority.. 2 Captain of Soul Society Quarters + 1 VC + Rukia who has great spiritual energy to match VC.. I don't have to remind Byakuya + Kenpachi VS Yammy.. but if you guys remember that, it'll be good for the outcome..

Thanks for reading, I probably won't make any rebuttals so this strategy will probably determine the match.. have fun.

BlackSmoke
11-21-2009, 11:35 AM
Since, Musashi isn't in the mood to do rebuttals, I'll posts a brief post why I think I should get your vote.

The casting he does at the start cannot, cover 150 meters. That distance gives my team time to react accordingly.

Ishida can easily move in and Licht Regen them as a group, disrupting casters with his heavy rapid fire.

His group sticks together so my trickery to affect LOS should work.

Hachi gets to setup his kido planks, due to the fact they start casting first, Kenpaichi obviously can't advance because he doesn't want to impede the line of fire. The large planks can ram enemies and intercept attacks and create cover if necessary for my team. MY team would have discussed how best to use them during their prep time.

When Hachi AOE binds with his mask on he will catch everyone in a group.

DookieMonster
11-21-2009, 04:56 PM
What can your team to binded Zaraki D=
Just wondering your team kinda doesn't have Killing potential while defensive is great
Byakuya's petals should be able to overwhelm your team, but gimme abit to go through strategies again.

BlackSmoke
11-21-2009, 09:45 PM
What can your team to binded Zaraki D=
Just wondering your team kinda doesn't have Killing potential while defensive is great
Byakuya's petals should be able to overwhelm your team, but gimme abit to go through strategies again.

just read the below please =]


End Game:
We finish off the binded and unequipped Kenpaichi. We stab him through his visible eye and cut his throat (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/307/17/). Kenpaichi said himself that everyone can be cut in the throat or stabbed through the eyes. Vaizard Masked Hachi with his zanpaktou will be able to do this. We continue are offensive the enemy should be weaken from being blinded various ways and that sprenger trap. Some other people should have also been binded during the Divine Bondage phase. We continue to cast binding bakudo on anyone left unbinded, should just be Byakuya left barely alive. We can for fun make a cross out of kido planks and use a bakudo 63 to tie a barely alive Byakuya to it as we pierce his sides and let him bleed to death :zaru. If Ishida has a clear shot during tear gas bombs or any distraction shenanigans or anyone binded he will attempt to snipe the saketsu. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/259/04/) This will be very easy on someone like Kenpaichi who is a manly brute willing to take attacks to the chest. No, it is pretty impossible to remove Character Induced Stupidity in a character :U.

I think I covered everything. all things happen as fast as possible.


This is how we kill the captured people.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 12:34 AM
Vote Musashi

First off, BS just has no killing power on his team, nothing that can really hurt Kenpachi in this fight unless every single one of his chars attacks at once at a weak point. But There's probably too much prep in BS's strat. Sure itll stop the first wave of attacks, but then the enemy will be right on top of your wall (which theyll flank around - Hachi isnt even making a box). With the wall there, Ishida cant fire his own attacks... if he's in front of it, he's gonna get blitzed and killed

Plus I highly doubt that Hachi could perform those binding attacks without incantation on multiple targets at once, im sorry, there's ntohing you can tell me that will make me believe it.

And finally, Byakuya is any kido users bane. Danku is able to negate the effectiveness of Hachi's binding, maybe not totally, but enough to make the spell weak, weak enough for Hachi to break free.

Basically, nothing BS has done will allow them to get a solid killing blow on Jan's chars, so theyll both eventually overwhelm. Once Orihime goes down, Hachi will soon fall.

BlackSmoke
11-22-2009, 01:06 AM
Vote Musashi

First off, BS just has no killing power on his team, nothing that can really hurt Kenpachi in this fight unless every single one of his chars attacks at once at a weak point.

If I get Kenpaichi binded all I have to do is cut his throat with Vaizard Hachi, he has the reistsu levels to pierce him easy.

Ishida using his sprenger arrows can pierce anything here easily. Also he is putting heavy fire on those Kido casters ruining their offense. Jan instructed his support for Ken to IC use kido. That's it kido. He didn't tell Byakuya to use his shikai attacks. So Ishida gets to abuse this, everyone knows Archers > Mages. :LOS Rapid heavy fire arrows will reac Byakuya, Hisagi and Rukia. They aren't tanky at all.



but There's probably too much prep in BS's strat. Sure itll stop the first wave
Barely any prep, you know has fast Hachi can slap out those planks? Like farts, quick as can be. Look Hachi isn't using them in a big block square, he is moving them out individually/ pairs. I never said he was making that huge wall. However I did instruct him to use the planks strategically. Also he is casting spells from his starting position of over 150 meters...


Plus I highly doubt that Hachi could perform those binding attacks without incantation on multiple targets at once, im sorry, there's ntohing you can tell me that will make me believe it.

Wow, even after I provided scans and reasoning why? Without mask he has never casts anything on multiple targets simultaneously, yet with the mask he can. You know I'm right nick <3


And finally, Byakuya is any kido users bane. Danku is able to negate the effectiveness of Hachi's binding, maybe not totally, but enough to make the spell weak, weak enough for Hachi to break free.


You must really like Byakuya....The Bakudo bindings practically materialize over the user/ around the users space. Hiding behind a Danku shield won't save anyone. Plus Hachi has casted barriers within barriers. really know comparing the mastery of Hachi's Bakudo to Zommari that poser kidocaster.
All vaizards have shown Captain+ level reistsu levels when non equipped with mask and then + the mask....please reconsider Nick =[

Please reconsider your vote Nick <3

Pwease

Franky
11-22-2009, 01:13 AM
God, I'm so horny right now. Going for a jog :datass

Fuck it. I'm not voting.

*leaves*

BlackSmoke
11-22-2009, 01:23 AM
Fuck it. I'm not voting.

*leaves*

I know how you feel man. *goes for a jog*
<3

Franky
11-22-2009, 01:58 AM
Unless...

PM me your real gender. Yes, I've been second-guessing since that night with dubbed Grimmjow.

I won't tell anyone, I give you my word.

BlackSmoke
11-22-2009, 02:20 AM
Going to look like I bribed you....you know that right.

Omaeda Takes It Alone
11-22-2009, 02:50 AM
Hachi blocks incoming attacks with his planks. The opposing melee characters won't be able to attack from afar and won't Shunpo in as they're ordered to stick together as a team. Byakuya should be able to shield his teammates with petals while they close the gap. However, this lessens LoS in addition to Uryu's arrows, Rudobon's fodder, and Ganju's smoke bombs. This leaves them vulnerable to Bakudou.

Byakuya may put up resistance, but he can't defend Kenpachi and himself simultaneously with success. Eventually Musashi's team is bound. Byakuya can defend with petals using just his fingers, but the Rudobon fodder, Uryu's arrows, and Hachi's Zanpakuto eventually break through (with Orihime's backing to minimize damage). As Shinigami, each member of Musashi's team can be wore down with attacks until killed.

Vote Black Smoke

nick1689
11-22-2009, 03:42 AM
If I get Kenpaichi binded all I have to do is cut his throat with Vaizard Hachi, he has the reistsu levels to pierce him easy.

Ishida using his sprenger arrows can pierce anything here easily. Also he is putting heavy fire on those Kido casters ruining their offense. Jan instructed his support for Ken to IC use kido. That's it kido. He didn't tell Byakuya to use his shikai attacks. So Ishida gets to abuse this, everyone knows Archers > Mages. :LOS Rapid heavy fire arrows will reac Byakuya, Hisagi and Rukia. They aren't tanky at all.

Ishida is going to be ineffective with a giant wall of planks in fornt of him, and if he's in front, he's going to die. Ive alreayd said that

Im sorry but Ishida doesnt not match up to Byakuya, or kenpachi, or barely even Hisagi and Rukia tag teaming him

Barely any prep, you know has fast Hachi can slap out those planks? Like farts, quick as can be. Look Hachi isn't using them in a big block square, he is moving them out individually/ pairs. I never said he was making that huge wall. However I did instruct him to use the planks strategically. Also he is casting spells from his starting position of over 150 meters...

You did instruct to use the planks to make walls, by showing scans of using the planks in that way. And he doesnt have the range over 30m for the "casting spells".

Whats going to happen is him putting up the blanks, blocking the first wave of attacks, and then having Jan's team easily flank around the planks attacking him head on.

Wow, even after I provided scans and reasoning why? Without mask he has never casts anything on multiple targets simultaneously, yet with the mask he can. You know I'm right nick <3

That wasnt evidence. That was Hachi using his own brand of barrier magic, not shinigami kido. That move is banned for a reason, as it's extrmely broken. No one has ever shown to use binding kido on multiple targets simultaneously. He'd be broken if he could do something like that

You must really like Byakuya....The Bakudo bindings practically materialize over the user/ around the users space. Hiding behind a Danku shield won't save anyone. Plus Hachi has casted barriers within barriers. really know comparing the mastery of Hachi's Bakudo to Zommari that poser kidocaster.

Danku protects against kido. Making that wall was a bad move, as it completely blocks your LOS for no good reason. Hachi needs LOS to be effective

As I said above, plank goes up, blocks the initial attack, but then followed by Jans team flanking around it getting into close combat. The odds are agaisnt your team as soon as they flank.

The likely result will be Byakuya guarding with Danku, maybe firring of Hado 33 (which will aoe fuck shit up), with Kenpachi blitzing at Hachi and Orihime. Add in Hisagi and Rukia to engage the fodder, and your team will lose.

Your team has next to no attacking power, even if someone got bound, itll jsut result in Hachi getting blindsided by an attack while he's concentrating on his kido. Plus his stamina is shit

All vaizards have shown Captain+ level reistsu levels when non equipped with mask and then + the mask....please reconsider Nick

No they havent. Hachi is strong, but he's only a pure kido machine. He's like Momo, but powerful

Franky
11-22-2009, 06:10 AM
BlackSmoke, I haven't even read strats yet, so why would I ask for a bribe?

Whatever... I'm reading strats...

I liked the answer, btw.:hurr

Franky
11-22-2009, 06:18 AM
Vote BLACKSMOKE

Go go go!

Hachi's kido planks are actually quite strong, and there is an old saying or something about no matter how hard your skin is, you can still have your eyes pierced. Kenpachi may be a monster, but he just won't be able to stand after being binded, blinded, gassed, shot at, ect.

It's like those big black guys. They're really REALLY scary. Until you shoot'em.

Edit:

Ok. So, mainly, Janny-boy has decided to go with an IC blitz. Now, to be blunt, I don't think that Zaraki can breack through enough planks pushing him back before he gets binded or shot in the eye.

Then, the rest of Janny-boy's team doesn't really do much else, pretty much they get binded and the same thing happens to them.

They are all binded and then they have their necks cut open. I don't think any of them are surviving.

Edit2:

Ok, so i reread Janny-boy's strat real quick, but, I still don't see it. You're not attacking enough to break through to Hachi.

Also, Senbonzakura should get frozen by Hakuren, now, that's just my opinion. So now, Byakuya's just got Kido. I'm sorry dude, it's 5am here, I'm solid on my vote, but I can't think straight and I really don't wanna think until I'm done fixing my comp.

So yeah, this is as much as I'm adding.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 06:34 AM
Franky that's an empty vote. All youve said are Hachi's planks are cool, and then kenpachi has his eye poked out. You didnt explain how or why at all

Match is almost over, but that's a dodgy vote

Franky
11-22-2009, 06:44 AM
The fuck?

You act like I care. I've seen FAR worse votes being counted.

It's self explanatory: I don't think Kenpachi can break through that defense. There's your reason.

Gawd.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 06:45 AM
Ok. Your vote is void until you expand on it.

Franky
11-22-2009, 06:47 AM
Suuurreee...

Whatever.

Cause you're just the boss around here... Ya'know, you should really try acting like one of the pact instead of some faggy overlord. You are freaking rude man, and no, I'm not trying to flame you.

I'm just saying, you irk me the wrong way sometimes. Cause you did NOTHING that deems you as the caretaker of the BBD. In fact, Sajin and Candy probably deserve that more than you do. Candy can't be trusted though.

Neverless, stop acting like you're high and mighty. You want me to expand on it, try asking a little fucking nicer. It never hurt to say "please", so why not try it?

Who knows, you may like it.

Kobe
11-22-2009, 06:54 AM
Franky you made me post here.

What are you talking about? Compare my strategy and your vote. Where does it way I'll blitz them? There is no IC. Characters acting according to strategy and Hachi ain't gonna bind anybody.

Kido planks gonna get negated by Danku, as simple as that.

Franky
11-22-2009, 06:57 AM
You know what, I was asked to vote. It's fucking 5am.

Kobe
11-22-2009, 06:59 AM
I didn't ask you to vote.

and your vote's content isn't nice.. you know this' the same case as in the OPBD.

Cthulu's match and the recent case.

That vote was voided by me there, I don't know the case here but I agree with nick.

Franky
11-22-2009, 07:02 AM
fine fine fine...

btw, Blacksmoke asked me to vote...

Anyway, if you wanna void it, even though I'd rather you not, go ahead... but I'm seriously tired and my clock fucked up on me and I ended up pulling an all nighter...

Kobe
11-22-2009, 07:03 AM
yes, it's void IMO, and apparently nick thinks like that too, not just me.

good night.

Franky
11-22-2009, 07:06 AM
Suit yourself...

sorry to trouble you dude... just stupid time problems... my clock's going to hell now.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 07:22 AM
Suuurreee...

Whatever.

Cause you're just the boss around here... Ya'know, you should really try acting like one of the pact instead of some faggy overlord. You are freaking rude man, and no, I'm not trying to flame you.

Faggy overlord? It was a shit vote Franky. You know, everyone knows it. If Sajin or BH were around Im sure they would have done the exact same thing, calling out your vote for what it is - half assed and inaccurate.

Come on franky, youre more of the experienced members around here, I shouldnt be calling out your votes

I'm just saying, you irk me the wrong way sometimes. Cause you did NOTHING that deems you as the caretaker of the BBD. In fact, Sajin and Candy probably deserve that more than you do. Candy can't be trusted though.

Caretaker? There's 3 helpers for this tourney, theyre in charge of organising shit, admin shit, and calling out shit votes and voiding them if theyre not fixed. Im not really sure what youre getting at here, there 3 heplers of this tourney that are there partly to call out unfair votes and to ensure that people arent unfairly losing out because of such a vote.

Youre experienced Frnaky, you should know how to vote. You SHOULD know that your vote was half assed.

Neverless, stop acting like you're high and mighty. You want me to expand on it, try asking a little fucking nicer. It never hurt to say "please", so why not try it?

Who knows, you may like it.

High and mighty? Think about it franky, if you saw a vote like that, and you were in charge of calling out unfair votes, would you let it stand? No, atleast I hope not.

I wasnt being rude at all, but as usual you had to blow something out of proportion that could have easily been fixed by just looking at the match again. Where was I being rude? I said your vote was empty. I thought with your experience you would have looked at your vote and realised just how empty it actually was. Guess not it seems

The fact is, you took maybe two character into account out of the whole battle, representing it in a way that was not accurate at all.

Franky
11-22-2009, 07:25 AM
Like I said.

I didn't even read that post.

I'm tired, it's 5am, I'm sick, I shiouldn't even be on right now... dude, I can't think straight right now.

I said I was sorry, so I'll say it to you too... Sorry for troubling you... I'll be leaving soon anyway...

nick1689
11-22-2009, 07:30 AM
Thats cool franky, it doesnt bother me, Im just trying to ensure that matches are fair. I suggest not voting at 5am in the morning again when youre sick :LOS


edit: nice, you edited your vote with more things. Thanks, its all cool now

Kobe
11-22-2009, 07:33 AM
He retracted his vote, right? :huh

If he can't think straight enough, then why does he bother to vote? What's the motivation in 5 AM?

He's still saying I'm not attacking enough to break through his defence.

Kenpachi + Byakuya = Not enough ?

As Nick said BS doesn't even have finishing moves.. That kido planks are just gonna block Ishida's arrows and Danku can negate those planks' effect towards us.. and I don't get the part which says Hakuren will freeze Senbonzakura.. why would it be like that? Did I say they will get on top each other and move like that? I said they will go towards the enemy, just in straight motion.

I'm sorry Franky, but you didn't understand a bit of my strategy.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 07:35 AM
Nah he didnt, he added more to it so its legit enough now to be counted

If he can't think straight enough, then why does he bother to vote? What's the motivation in 5 AM?

Youd have to ask him

Kobe
11-22-2009, 07:39 AM
fuck this shit then..

BlackSmoke says one thing to him, and in 10 mins he finds a way to vote against me with half ass logic.. Does it matter if he adds a thing related to match after that? of course he can copy paste smt from his strategy and write here, and it would be related to match.. I know his motivation. BIBIBIBIBIBIBI. and the profile picture in BlackSmoke's profile.

http://forums.narutofan.com/image.php?u=48258&dateline=1255405168&type=profile

seriously, this attitude is disgusting.

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anyway, byebye.. I came here after nick's request to join the BBD.. but I see the matches are still going based on personal affairs.

Rice Ball
11-22-2009, 07:58 AM
Voting for Musashi

Bakudo 63 is a cleaver idea, but it will fail on kenpachi for the same reason it failed on Kensei. Kenpachi is a monster.

If Hachi is focusing hiw crowd control on Kenpachi, he'll just piss Ken off and allow the other deadly members of his team ti interfear with his finisher as fodder = fodder to Byakuya.

Sooner or later Kenpachi frees himself and murders Hachi.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 08:00 AM
Sorry Rice Ball, your vote is 10mins late.

So the score is 2-1, BlackSmoke wins

MATCH CLOSED

Franky
11-22-2009, 08:03 AM
Musashi, I feel insulted now. I did no such thing.

If I have one moral, it is my respect for women, and unless you want me to go apeshit on you, I suggest you DON'T accuse me, or even inffer, of doing such a thing just as a bribe.

You disgust me.

BlackSmoke
11-22-2009, 09:09 AM
2 GUDZ, GG JAN :datass

Sajin, go put this match in the history thread :gar

Voting for Musashi

Bakudo 63 is a cleaver idea, but it will fail on kenpachi for the same reason it failed on Kensei. Kenpachi is a monster.

If Hachi is focusing hiw crowd control on Kenpachi, he'll just piss Ken off and allow the other deadly members of his team ti interfear with his finisher as fodder = fodder to Byakuya.

Sooner or later Kenpachi frees himself and murders Hachi.

Hmmm Rice, I know Kenpaichi is the greatest swordsman ever, but if you read my strategy I bind/seal his Zanpaktou once he drops it from the first 2 binds.
Does your vote clearly show understanding of my strategy =]?

Please don't call Jesus fodder, yes Ishida is the Jew of the team.


You did instruct to use the planks to make walls, by showing scans of using the planks in that way. And he doesnt have the range over 30m for the "casting spells".
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IT SAYS SO IN HIS PROFILE NICK!!!

God, I understand Kenchan rocks, but please don't dehype my whole strategy.

GGs, interesting voter interpretation, your entitled to it Nick.

nick1689
11-22-2009, 09:30 AM
IT SAYS SO IN HIS PROFILE NICK!!!

God, I understand Kenchan rocks, but please don't dehype my whole strategy.

GGs, interesting voter interpretation, your entitled to it Nick.

Wha? It says that his range is limited to 30m, meaning he cant fire off kido over that range :wha