The strongest and weakest devil fruit in your opinion [Archive]

Jeltz

09-03-2005, 08:08 AM

Mister 2's fruit is the weakest in battle, but it is still a useful ability. I agree about the Logia fruits being some of the most powerful ones but the paramecia fruits can be quite strong too. Foxy's fruit can be used to defeat very strong enemies and Hina's capturing fruit seems very strong but it could have a weakness.

Code

09-03-2005, 11:38 AM

I'd say that Hie Hie fruit is the strongest we've seen so far. Great for immobilizing people if you don't want to kill them(say just freeze their feet or whatever), no need to sink in the ocean when you can just freeze it insantly before you fall in, and so on. Though if the stuff like mind reading was part of the Goro Goro fruit, I'm sure there are side effects to other logia fruits also and we have yet to see the Hie Hie fruit's full power.

I'd say Mr. 2's fruit is probably the most useless... Kilo Kilo fruit isn't that useless if you're opponnent is not that fast, I'm sure 10,000 kilograms would hurt if it hit you, and well you can fly also...

Aman

09-03-2005, 11:41 AM

I think that the strongest fruits are the logia fruits (at least at the part of the manga where i am) but Mr. 2's fruit is probably the weakest...

Maffy the Love Doctor

09-03-2005, 12:02 PM

strongest would have to be enel's or aokiji's. weakest would have to be...idk, i guess bon clay's (but i agree, it's very useful).

pakku

09-03-2005, 12:06 PM

Well, in my opinion, the strongest is the goro goro fruit, since Enel already used it to destroy islands.
The weakest/ most useless seems to be the kilo kilo fruit. Flying and simply does a freefall on your opponent seems dull to me.

Agreed...however, I suppose it depends on whether or not we're talking about strength or usefulness, because then technically the mane mane fruit would be the weakest because its use in battle is pretty limited (it would pretty much only be useful against somebody like Sanji).

jormundelver

09-03-2005, 07:54 PM

Okay, since if i say the weakest, everyone will say the mane mane fruit.
How about the least useful?

ChickenPotPie

09-03-2005, 08:21 PM

Most useful-Enel

Least useful-Hina

Marsala

09-03-2005, 08:29 PM

Least useful - Chopper's Human Human fruit. If a human ate it, they would get no special powers at all! Of course, it's an incredible fruit for most animals.

Most useful - Enel. "God's Judgement" and "Advent of Thunder" are insane.

Jeltz

09-04-2005, 07:00 AM

Least useful-Hina

I can't see how Hina's ori ori fruit is the least useful. The fruit gives her the ability to defeat very strong enemies if she just touches them. With that ability she could probably take out most of the strawhats.

But the least useful ability is probably dachshund fruit.

CABLE

09-04-2005, 01:54 PM

I'm not sure what the strongest fruit up to date is cuz ive not yet caught up with the manga, but from where I am now, I'd say Captain Smoker's fruit since i don't see how it can be defeated. Then the weakest would be sube sube fruit, what the hell is the point?

I can't see how Hina's ori ori fruit is the least useful. The fruit gives her the ability to defeat very strong enemies if she just touches them. With that ability she could probably take out most of the strawhats.

But the least useful ability is probably dachshund fruit.

can someone explain Hina's fruit? I don't understand it. Like when she touches them, how are they binded?

General Shino

09-04-2005, 01:58 PM

Strongest-Enel- I mean come on, Did you say that guy, Luffy should be damn proud his bodies rubber...

Weakest-Mr 2.... good ability to have.... not in battle though....

CABLE

09-04-2005, 02:17 PM

This thread should have been called "Most and Least Useful devil fruit in your opinion"

Code

09-04-2005, 03:38 PM

can someone explain Hina's fruit? I don't understand it. Like when she touches them, how are they binded?
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/6716/onepiece217022hs.jpg
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4217/onepiece217036do.jpg

It seems basically if someone touches her, they automatically pass through her and some materially automatically constricts them.

I don't see how the Sube Sube fruit is weak... weren't things that hit Alvida basically sliding off her body? It'd be quite difficult to actually harm her with phsyically attacks.

Wrath

09-04-2005, 04:59 PM

The most useful and strongest one would be Aokiji's ice elemental power. Most useful because the world of OP is 99% ocean, so there's far more water around, and also because it can nullify the drowning vulnerability pretty easily. Most powerful goes without saying.

Eneru's lightning fruit was good, but his most powerful attacks were only possible thanks to the special clouds on Sky Island that he could charge up, and also the special gold which he could manipulate. Without either of those highly specialized environmental factors he would have been far weaker (though still massively powerful, of course). Eneru also relied on his Mantra, which had nothing to do with his devil fruit power.

Jones

09-04-2005, 05:03 PM

ChickenPotPie

09-04-2005, 05:51 PM

I can't see how Hina's ori ori fruit is the least useful. The fruit gives her the ability to defeat very strong enemies if she just touches them. With that ability she could probably take out most of the strawhats.

I say so because I don't see how you can expand on the ability. By making more powerful rings? It seems only useful when fighting people...and that's it.

Aman

09-04-2005, 05:58 PM

Most useful: Eneru's

Least useful: Wapol's fruit...

Code

09-04-2005, 06:06 PM

i first i thought the gomu gomu was down there with the weakest but then Eneru said it was a superhuman fruit or somthing like that. it not only gave luffy the power of the rubberman but also a huge amount of stamina and the ability to take even the biggest of hits quite well.

i'd say choppers is one of the more useless when fighting. without the little gumball thing(name escapes me) chopper would only be there as a medic.
By "supoerhuman" I believe Eneru might of the Paramecia type (There's the Zoan, Logia, Paramecia) which basically alters the body in some way, as Luffy turns his into rubber.

Also Luffy against Kuro, when Kuro said that his strength definitely couldn't be from the devil fruit, said that he's strong because he trained.

Gumbleball is called Rumbleball I think. But yeah I doubt Chopper would be nearly as strong without that. But there are far less useful things while fighting.

Tousenz

09-05-2005, 03:37 AM

Wrath

09-05-2005, 08:49 AM

By "supoerhuman" I believe Eneru might of the Paramecia type (There's the Zoan, Logia, Paramecia) which basically alters the body in some way, as Luffy turns his into rubber.

Also Luffy against Kuro, when Kuro said that his strength definitely couldn't be from the devil fruit, said that he's strong because he trained.

Gumbleball is called Rumbleball I think. But yeah I doubt Chopper would be nearly as strong without that. But there are far less useful things while fighting.What makes sense in the context of what Eneru said is that Eneru wasn't sure at first whether Luffy had eaten a Paramecia Rubber fruit or a Logia Rubber fruit. Essentially he wanted to know whether Luffy could be powerful enough to be a threat or not... And Luffy might indeed turn out to be a Logia type later on, to allow him to continue to hang with the other Logias.

kapsi

09-05-2005, 09:27 AM

...so he's rubber element?

Tousenz

09-05-2005, 02:47 PM

...so he's rubber element?

No, hes just a rubber-man right now. He may acuire the rubber logia ability through a rubber logia fruit or evolving his powers through training.

Code

09-05-2005, 02:56 PM

Eneru is definitely Logia.

All the Logia fruits are strong. I think Aokiji being the ice type would be susceptible to Fire or Lightening.

Most useless is the Zoan fruits. Even the Leopard one from Cp9.

Give me any other power any day.
How is the Zoan useless? After seeing the Model Lepord Neko Neko no Mi I was under the impression that Zoan fruits can be quite devastating. They greatly amplify all your physical abilities it seems.

As one hit from Lucci in Leopard form send Luffy flying across the city and Zoro into the ocean far far off...

What makes sense in the context of what Eneru said is that Eneru wasn't sure at first whether Luffy had eaten a Paramecia Rubber fruit or a Logia Rubber fruit. Essentially he wanted to know whether Luffy could be powerful enough to be a threat or not... And Luffy might indeed turn out to be a Logia type later on, to allow him to continue to hang with the other Logias.
Logia rubber fruit? Well there is smoke... but I don't think it really suits Luffy's style of fighting... though he certainly should be able to improve on his rubberness as it is now. (well someone like Ussop and Franky on the crew it would allow them to build equipment capable of withstanding attacks from certain elements, though you may consider that "cheap" in a way to rely on things such as that).

Wrath

09-05-2005, 07:21 PM

Logia rubber fruit? Well there is smoke... but I don't think it really suits Luffy's style of fighting... though he certainly should be able to improve on his rubberness as it is now. (well someone like Ussop and Franky on the crew it would allow them to build equipment capable of withstanding attacks from certain elements, though you may consider that "cheap" in a way to rely on things such as that).Well, the thing is he's not just stretchy, he actually has the electrical resistance of rubber. That sort of hints at the possibility of him really being a Logia type.

But, in the words of a friend of mine, just wait until Luffy finds out that the strong nuclear force works just like a rubber band.

kapsi

09-05-2005, 07:36 PM

His body is rubber so he has the properties of rubber, like that blade guy was 'steel'. And elemental fruit users so far seem to be immune to physical harm in most cases.

Power

09-06-2005, 07:38 AM

the way i see it, luffy is paramecia.

The ones i consider to be logia are crocodile, ace, smoker, akoji, and possibly mr3.

I always thought paramecia = body gains a certain property/properties (becomes like rubber, can split up, becomes slippery, becomes steel etc...)
Whereas logia = your body becomes THE element and you can control other of the same kind of element which are around you.

Thus crocodile becomes pure sand, can control sand, ace can become pure fire and can control fire...
Mr.3. Well arlong park says he's paramecia but he can create and control all the wax he makes, which is quite extraordinary.

Look at luffy, he is a virtual rubberman, but he cannot control or create rubber around him. That would however be cool. Think of the new moves he could make...

jormundelver

09-07-2005, 10:31 AM

True. If Luffy turns out to be a logia, he'd have scattered into pieces of rubber when he gets hit, and able produce rubber. Mr.3 isn't considered as logia because he couldn't transform entirely into wax and dissolve when he gets hit, although the ability to create and control things is indeed rare among paramecias.

Power

09-07-2005, 01:49 PM

From the words of the mighty eiichiro oda himself

Paramecia Zoan Logia
--------- ---- -----
Gomu Gomu Ushi Ushi Moku Moku
Bara Bara model Bison Mera Mera
Sube Sube Hito Hito Suna Suna
Bomu Bomu Tori Tori Goro Goro
Kiro Kiro model Falcon
Doru Doru Mogu Mogu
Baku Baku Inu Inu
Mane Mane model Dachshund
Hana Hana Uma Uma
Supa Supa
Toge Toge
Ori Ori
Bane Bane

Can you tell, now? The Logia type, able to change their living body structure into the powers of nature,
are extremely powerful within all the categories of powers.

kapsi

09-07-2005, 04:00 PM

I improved Wrath's avatar:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6637/jackjaw5ir0si.gif
It can't go faster, sorry.

Hermie

09-07-2005, 04:26 PM

...

wtf?

amar_amira

09-07-2005, 11:38 PM

if we talk about the "strongest or the weakest"
for me its depend on the user..
if the user can use his fruit devil power effectively..
they can overcome their weakness..

Rice Ball

09-08-2005, 05:44 AM

Strongest- Crocodiles fruit. Not only was croc immune to everything it seemed, he also could use the sand to create storms etc
Weakest- Mr2, Wampols, and those silly zoan ones like Jackle/Bison fruit.

jormundelver

09-08-2005, 09:41 AM

Splash water to Croc and he'll go down quickly...
Wapol's aren't weak! Imagine if he made his way into the drum kingdom's artillery storage! This series would've ended at the drum kingdom arc!

Tousenz

09-08-2005, 03:13 PM

Splash water to Croc and he'll go down quickly...

U mean splash water and he will evaporate it and stab you with his poison...

Zoan fruits suck. Cp9 are only "strong" because of the intense training they did with there forms. Other fruits very little training is need. I mean if you ate Aokiji fruit you pwn already but if you ate the Doggy Doggy or Giraffe Giraffe fruit.... well your just fucked.

Power

09-08-2005, 03:22 PM

yeh basically with zoan and Paramecia, you still need to train. With logia, you harly use physical power anymore. you are pretty much unstoppable.
unless you meed luffy and co

*one piece forums are my new home*

Tousenz

09-08-2005, 03:31 PM

Even Parmecia powers are better than Zoan.

If Buggy ate the fruit and never trained a day in his life he is still immune to swords.

Zoan fruits are just sad.

Gyroscope

09-08-2005, 04:35 PM

Im pretty sure the Elemental fruits are the strongest fruits out there.From what weve seen it certainly appears to be
Crocodile and his Sand elemental
Eneru and his Lightning elemental
Aokiji and his Ice elemental
Ace and his Fire elemental.

Giving the users the properties of the element itself and near immunity to physical attacks, while being able to launch massive attacks.Very strong.

As for weak - im not too sure.

Tousenz

09-08-2005, 05:19 PM

Dont forget Smoker and his Smoke ability!

Gyroscope

09-08-2005, 05:51 PM

^ point taken

Code

09-08-2005, 09:09 PM

Even Parmecia powers are better than Zoan.

If Buggy ate the fruit and never trained a day in his life he is still immune to swords.

Zoan fruits are just sad.
Zoan fruits are sad? Say that to Luffy and Zoro after they got smacked a couple hundred meters by a one swing from a Zoan user...

"At close range, Zoans are easily the most powerful type!!!"

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4107/onepiece34906png0sq.jpg

While Parmecia simply grant the user some ability such as the ability to make your skin soft and so on.

And it seems there is a difference between a Zoan based on a carnivorious animal and non-carnivorioius. As the former is "more violent" so I guess more fierce os stronger? Either way you can't simply say that because Chopper is weak(though he really isn't that weak) so are all Zoans (especially since it'd also vary from animal to animal.)

Tousenz

09-08-2005, 10:19 PM

"At close range, Zoans are easily the most powerful type!!!"

Thats false as he can't even hit Logia users. And theres plenty of Parmecia users who make hand to hand combat usless I.E. Alvida

Zoan fruits may be better than having no fruits but their certainly lacking compared to other fruits.

Code

09-08-2005, 10:29 PM

Thats false as he can't even hit Logia users. And theres plenty of Parmecia users who make hand to hand combat usless I.E. Alvida

Zoan fruits may be better than having no fruits but their certainly lacking compared to other fruits.
Well Alvida's pretty much the only Parmecia that has made hand-to-hand useless. Can't even hit logia fruit users? Same with Parmecia. But at least when the Zoan fruit users can hit, it's a lot more powerful than what a Parmecia fruit user would. Chopper's fruit + Rumble Ball would allow him to use Brain Point -> Scope on Logia fruit users and theoretically find thier weaknesses.

SloppyJoe

09-08-2005, 10:51 PM

The Most powerfull and Usefull fruit. I would have to say was Enel's electric fruit. I mean holly hell just the abilty's of being able too move the speed of electricty is ridiculus add that too basic... well yea enel's fruit.
Most Useless... well I wouldn't go so far as some to say zoan fruits BUT. That horse bird one in Skypie arc. Holy hell....SOOOO useless.

Tousenz

09-09-2005, 02:26 AM

Well Alvida's pretty much the only Parmecia that has made hand-to-hand useless.

The wax. The guy who can turn into steel. Luffy is immune to most physical attack. Buggy could just split apart before someone hit. The Kilo Kilo fruit could just float up.

Lots of things parmecians can do.

Zoans are so Lame.

Code

09-09-2005, 02:35 AM

The wax. The guy who can turn into steel. Luffy is immune to most physical attack. Buggy could just split apart before someone hit. The Kilo Kilo fruit could just float up.

Lots of things parmecians can do.

Zoans are so Lame.
That is in no way immune to phsyical attacks... just makes them less prone to getting hit.

Here's what happens when a Zoan fruit user gets a hold of Luffy.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5199/onepiece34913png9so.jpg
Which is after he took a full on direct hit by Luffy and was unphased... (and his boast about sending him off the Island wasn't all hot hair...)....

I think you're underestimating Zoans quite a bit...

Tousenz

09-09-2005, 02:41 AM

Here's what happens when a Zoan fruit user gets a hold of Luffy.

Not exactly impressive especially after all the Cp9 training.

And didn't he mention if it weren't for Luffy being a rubberman that he should have died?

Pretty immune I'd say. Especially since he was trying to kill and failed.

SeruraRenge

09-09-2005, 03:01 AM

jormundelver

09-09-2005, 05:58 AM

Zoan only give you brute strength, and so far the really useful Zoan ability is the ability to fly, and most logias are able to fly...
You need to be really creative when using a zoan devil fruit, while you don't really need any special training if you ate a logia devil fruit.
For paramecia, there are passive powers, like Luffy's ability to bend his body. So, he can withstand surprise attacks
Zoan devil fruits don't give you such ability, so I think in term of basic power received when you eat the fruit, Zoan's not that great

Code

09-09-2005, 11:17 AM

It's stated there, Zoan = best for close combat. It greatly amplifies all the users physical abilites along with what characteristic the animal as.

And Luffy not dying is considred immune? That was merely a toss by a Zoan user...

jormundelver

09-09-2005, 11:50 AM

Yeah, but the power given is not really special.
Turning into animals are just, kinda too ordinary, compared to being given the ability to call sandstorms, summon a giant ball of electricity to destroy an island, or burn 4 ships with a single punch

Power

09-09-2005, 12:09 PM

Well, the devil fruit depends on the luck really, or is there a way to find out what kind of fruit it is?

Somehow the ones to eat the fruit coincidentally either get a power that supports their human power, or coincidentally has to do EXACTLY with the place they live. (pell and the jackal guy..)

SeruraRenge

09-09-2005, 05:23 PM

UPRC

09-09-2005, 05:58 PM

Eneru is definitely Logia.

All the Logia fruits are strong. I think Aokiji being the ice type would be susceptible to Fire or Lightening.

Most useless is the Zoan fruits. Even the Leopard one from Cp9.

Give me any other power any day.

Not at all! Zoan is all about sheer power and brute force. Given the proper circumstances, a Zoan user could kick some serious ass.

Hermie

09-09-2005, 09:45 PM

I still think that Dragon's is the strongest. And he's not a movie villain, so he actually counts!

BTW, do you think that there is more than one of a fruit in the world? Like Luffy will meet another rubberman (now that would be an interesting fight).
I recall reading something about when a fruit is eaten, all the other fruits of that kind "magically"(plot-devicically:o) turn into normal fruits...

kapsi

09-10-2005, 06:21 AM

I wonder if they can eat 2 or more devil fruits

Power

09-10-2005, 08:21 AM

I recall reading something about when a fruit is eaten, all the other fruits of that kind "magically"(plot-devicically:o) turn into normal fruits...

The way i heard it if you eat a bite off the fruit all the powers go into that first bite, so you can't each have a bite and all get gomu gome powers.

Also i think 2 DF people will be the next generation of villains

Chizniz

11-20-2005, 05:06 PM

I wonder if they can eat 2 or more devil fruits

I think it was said that you will die if you eat more then one. One DF is enough to keep you from ever swimming, I guess two would make you explode or something.

The Lazy Shadow

11-20-2005, 05:56 PM

Does anyone else think that Luffy has too Unique of a devil fruit? Maybe the devil fruit was created to combat other devil fruits and just wound up in the wrong hands.
The reason I ask is because luffy has beaten like every type of Fruit including 2 of which are Logia then again he has lost to Ao Kiji and Smoker.

Anyway

Gomu Gomu Most Useful it evolves and is more reliable against more of the other fruits but I guess it all is about how the user does.

Most Useless would have to be Mane Mane dependant on the situation or Hito Hito depending on who eats it.

Hermie

11-20-2005, 06:31 PM

Does anyone else think that Luffy has too Unique of a devil fruit? Maybe the devil fruit was created to combat other devil fruits and just wound up in the wrong hands.
The reason I ask is because luffy has beaten like every type of Fruit including 2 of which are Logia then again he has lost to Ao Kiji and Smoker.
Nah, it's just Luffys training. Remember, he could beat Crocodile either until he used his brain . All the devil fruits' strenght depends on the user, at least within the same class.

The Lazy Shadow

11-21-2005, 05:38 PM

On a side note people with Zoan usually get certain abilities that the animal that the fruit is made after had. Hito Hito give the power of speech to animals I suppose and natural human intelligence. Along with the aspects of it such as Five Fingers and toes. And I would assume that people Like Dalton got superior strength

Walker

12-03-2005, 04:58 PM

I think that the most powerful is Dragon's. Let's face it, this guy's Boufuu Boufuu no Mi (I call it that because everything he seemed to do revolved around storms) was INSANE. I mean, he controls lightning, wind, rain. WHAT ELSE DO YA NEED?!

Then again, we haven't even seen Aka Inu and Ki Zaru yet. For all we know, they have even more powerful fruits.
If he had an elemental fruit he wouldent controll lighting or rain, he would just control the wind. If he moved a storm over the island he still wouldent control the lightning.

Strongest devil fruit users- Ao Kiji, Eneru
weakest devil fruit users- Alivida, mr 2

Alivida might not have a weak devil fruit power since she cant be hit by physical atacks but that doesnt mean her abbilitys rose aswell. She would still have a weak fighting style.

I dont think Zoan fruits are weak. Like for Luuchi he already has almost unbeatable speed and defence. So I doubt being rubber would help him that much. But since he got the Zoan fruit he adds supper strength to his arsenal.

I doubt he was evan using his fruits full potential. I say it gives the user the most PHYSICAL strength out of any fruit.

Zeff

12-06-2005, 05:47 AM

I think the strongest is the fire fruit and the weakest is the horse fruit

tri-sapphire

12-07-2005, 07:34 AM

How can people put down the Zoan type when Bartholomew the Bear is going around as a Shichi Bukai with a previous bounty of 296,000,000 beri?

Walker

12-16-2005, 10:23 PM

How can people put down the Zoan type when Bartholomew the Bear is going around as a Shichi Bukai with a previous bounty of 296,000,000 beri?

We really dont know that he has one yet. But im sure if he does everyone will be saying Zoan is godlike.

Zoro

12-16-2005, 11:46 PM

Goro-Goro/Hie-Hie:Strongest
Sube-Sube/Bellamy's(sorry I forgot the name): weakest

Walker

12-17-2005, 09:19 PM

How was Bellamys weak? He had 55 million belli bounty because of it. It gave him super fast speeds and super powerful hits. The only reason he lost was because Luffy was on a whole different level.

Molekage

12-19-2005, 02:51 PM

Like Crocodile and Lucci says, devil fruit strength depends on the ability of the user. With that being said, I think Buggy had the weakest fruit because out of the devil fruit users that we've seen, i think he uses his ability the least effectively. Luffy's gomu gomu fruit could now be one of the most powerful with the evolution of his ability.

9Tail-Hokage

12-21-2005, 12:45 AM

Wondering, is there a Devil Fruit count or what?

Ghokun

12-21-2005, 10:04 PM

I think da flamingo ( 340 million bounty - shichi bukai ) has enough strength to take down any zoan type devil fruit user.

Tenrow

12-23-2005, 03:08 AM

Just observations

Zoan type grants its user to enhance his own natural strength with beast traits of the fruit, still the user itself has to rely on brute strength to completely use the extent of the power of the fruit, meaning that it's completly useless against most far range attacks, especially against logia types.

Paramecia allows more veriety attacks within the person along with more vercitile effects, however the person itself isn't given that much more strength and require vast amounts of energy to defened and attack, along with the fact that the strength of the ability depends on the strength of the user meaning that zoan types can overpower paramecias.

Logia grants the users the control over the element of the fruit along with changing the bodies composition to that element, but most of these abilities can be completly nulled, once the weakness of the element is figured out, meaning some effects of paramecias can accually overcome the obsticles of logias

To me it's all jan ken po, however it seems that logias are the strongest. Most of the logias I've seen so far, Ace, Aoijiki, Smoker, Crocodile, ect. have completely over powered every other type of users

So far the weakest is Zoan, cause they leave themselves wide open to omega powerful attacks

As for paramecia, i have to say its so-so, you have really good powers such as robins hana hana and luffys gomu gomu, but there are just some that are so retarded i won't mention them *coughs* Bon Clay *coughs*

SeruraRenge

12-23-2005, 04:10 AM

still the user itself has to rely on brute strength to completely use the extent of the power of the fruit, meaning that it's completly useless against most far range attacks, especially against logia types.
Well, altough that does apply in most cases, I dun think it would apply to Lucci, due to his Rankakyu giving him range, plus his Soru has get him to the enemy quickly.

As for paramecia, i have to say its so-so, you have really good powers such as robins hana hana and luffys gomu gomu, but there are just some that are so retarded i won't mention them *coughs* Bon Clay *coughs*
Too late, ya already said it.

Jack Bauer

12-30-2005, 02:07 PM

Elemental devil fruits are said to be the most powerful of its class.

However, get a another element that could overcome it like Luffy invunerable to Eneru's electrical attacks, they could also be considered a great weakness as well.

Ace better pray he doesn't meet a mizu-mizu fruit user....