Davy Back I - R1M8 - Daviddd vs. uzumaki lee

[Sajin]

Davy Back I - R1M8

1. Vote clearly on the victor. You must state a reason why you feel that team would win. Your vote is voided if: You don't have a reason stated, you have less than 100 posts (unless it is decided differently), and if you don't put I vote for: (Participant Name here) at the end of your post.

2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other person, then only that vote will count.

3. No filler abilities, none period.

4. No character hype, yes Kenpachi is fucking awesome, but please try and be serious and just go off their skills

5. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST character's are in play. (eg Soi Fon and Yoruichi Shihōin will work well together) EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 377 AND BEFORE (this will be updated for each tournament hereafter).

6. There is no prep time. But your characters have unlimited time before a match where they can discuss strategy and share knowledge etc. But no actions may be taken before a match.

7. The Incharacter Rule:
Characters will do their best to follow a strategy. They will happily attack the enemy (even Pesche Guatiche and Dondochakka Bilstin will attack Neliel Tu Oderschvank if she is the enemy). Characters have no fear (Marechiyo Ōmaeda will not run away unless directed to). When left with nothing to do and no guidelines, characters will behave incharacter as they would do in the manga.

8. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.

9. A strategy cannot plan for things the characters have no knowledge of. For example, a team cannot plan for Zommari Leroux's Amor if no one on that players team has knowledge of it.

10. If both combatants have equal votes after 72 hours the match will be extended by 24 hours. If the winner of the match has not been determined after the 24 hour extension, the match will go into sudden death, next vote wins. If a single combatant hasn't posted his/her strategy within 48 hours of the match starting, they are disqualified for not supplying a strategy within reasonable a time for the match to be fairely debated. If both combatants haven't posted their strategy within 48 hours of the match starting they are both disqualified.

11. If combatant X has read combatant Y's strategy and posted a direct counter strategy, combatant X is disqualified for poor sportsmanship. Combatants are not allowed to read the others strategy until both strategies have been posted. It is recommended that the first strategy to be posted is in spoiler tags to avoid any accidental reading.

Location: Gantenbein's Rooms - Short

Refer to the Bleach Tournament Battledome Information Thread (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=520373) for details regarding rules and restrictions, character abilities, locations and starting distances


Daviddd
Team :dupe

Grimmjow Jeagerjaques (Unreleased) (38)
Kurotsuchi Mayuri (Shikai) (20)
Szayel Aporro Granz (Unreleased) (16)

vs

uzumaki lee
AcE

Grimmjow Jeagerjaques (Unreleased) (38)
Kurotsuchi Mayuri (Shikai) (20)
Uryu Ishida (no Final Form) (16)

[nick1689]

mirror mirror

[squilliam]

lawls, you gotta be shitting me :lmao

are you guys sure the matching process is random?

[Sajin]

I don't know... We'll have to ask YammyNick/Brandon :LOS

[nick1689]

Yeh I purposely handcrafted this match to make it as boring as possible

[squilliam]

I'm not actually implying anything here, it's just that I could've sworn I saw one of the more experienced members complaining about clone teams

I figured that, maybe, to teach people a lesson, this match might be on purpose

[Outer Path]

I've looked at the view links on Gantenbein's room and I'm still confused about something. Are you guys allowed to tell us how the rooms are connected (in a straight line or a 90-degree angle)?

[Sajin]

I'm not actually implying anything here, it's just that I could've sworn I saw one of the more experienced members complaining about clone teams

I figured that, maybe, to teach people a lesson, this match might be on purpose

Watchman vs Candy instead would be epic.

Anyway, a Szayel team has an advantage IMO.

[BlackSmoke]

Yeh I purposely handcrafted this match to make it as boring as possible

LLAWLSS NICKKKKKKKKKKKK

Everyone drops all their complaints and hate on him when stuff goes array, seriously even I do that, but he is fair and unbiased. :gar

LOL @ NICK :lmao

[nick1689]

Im not sure if thats a compliment or a payout BS :wha

[Uzumaki Lee]

Strat will be up later

[Omaeda Takes It Alone]

nick takes it alone

I'm looking forward to the strats.

[Uzumaki Lee]

Knowledge:

I know most if not all on him and vice versa



Strat:



[As soon as the battle starts Grimmjow fires a Gran Ray Cero followed by another one. While this is happening Ishida is also firing 1200 consecutive arrows using his Gerrei Kojaku bow followed by Licht Regen. This should damage the enemy maybe even killing either Mayuri or Syazal aswell as create alot of smoke/dust while should block LOS for a little while. As soon as some smoke appears that is enough to block LoS Mayuri will shunpo as close as he can get to the enemy without them noticing (they should be behind the smoke) and quickly weld (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/119/18/) into the wall or ground (whatever he thinks is suitable in order to successfully carry out the plan- get close to enemy and paralyse with paralysis strike (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/123/10/)) Once welded and close to the opponents he will use body modification (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/121/17/)and paralyse syazel and grimm who are his main targets (the attack will be a surprise as there will be smoke and a hand coming out of the ground and slashing them with his sword.

A single stike to either of them will be :awesome as they will start to go into paralysis. This should all happen in a matter of seconds as the distance between the enemy and me is not that much and mayuri is not slow either. Once the enemy is paralysed the smoke should have cleared and Grimm will speed blitz the other team while firng gran cero and kill anyone he gets his hands on and Ishida will be on his platform spamming arrows and Lict Regen getting closer to the enemy.


This should be the end of him :gar

Note: The attacks that i am firing will Be parallel, this means that Gran will not wipe out the arrows, after each gran has been fired ishida can fire the arrows immidietly in the same place after. Mayuri will be usind shunpo on the side in a straight line and will not be hit by any of my own attacks lol
My team will be carefull of Mayuri's sword :gar




What ifs?

What is the paralysing plan dosent work?
i dont see why it shouldnt but if it dosent then mayuri will shunpo back and my team together will go for an all out attacking, spamming their best attacks. Daviddd's team must be injured by my inital attack, heck even mayuri or syazel may die.

Dviddd’s team blitz then that will make it easier for me as they will be stopped by my attacks and this mean mayuri has to shunpo a much smaller distance etc.

The rest will be dealt in rebuttals

[Outer Path]

Had a history test and english essay test today, so I didn't have time to think of a good strat yesterday. I have an idea of what I'm going to do now, and my strat'll be up within the next hour - hour and a half.

[Candy]

Good, im looking forward to seeing how a KCer handles the epic BBD :pimp

[Uzumaki Lee]

Had a history test and english essay test today, so I didn't have time to think of a good strat yesterday. I have an idea of what I'm going to do now, and my strat'll be up within the next hour - hour and a half.

:awesome :gar

[Outer Path]

Prep time: My team will share information on each other's abilities and the opponents' abilities.

Strategy

Grimmjow will use Gran Rey Cero at the other team to block LOS and kill anyone who charges, while Szaeyel will use his Image-creating device to show my team (not including Grimmjow) standing behind Grimmjow, all in a fighting position. If he can charge Cero with Grimmjow while setting up his device, he will do so.

Mayuri will release his Shikai, place all of his Arrancar bombs aside from 2 behind Grimmjow where our illusions are, and meld to the ground behind the bombs and outside of the bombs' AoE. While the illusions are in place, my team (not including Grimmjow) will hide/take cover behind the illusions/however they can and make sure they're not seen.

Mayuri will do whatever he can to negate Uryu's attacks like he did in Las Noches (in the manga), and will do whatever he can to take down the other team. Mayuri will set bombs close to the opponent where Szaeyel will send one of the Arrancar he starts with to combat the opponent (detonating the bomb and destroying the fodderheal Arrancar and whoever it engages with).

From there my team is IC, and Grimmjow will be our main offense. If Grimmjow is ever severely hurt, he'll take a bite from one of Szaeyel's Fraccion (not the one that's gone off to detonate the bomb) to heal himself. If we end up killing the other team except for Mayuri, we'll spam ceros and whatnot all over the place to kill him.

From there I leave my team IC.

[Outer Path]

Off to bed. my rebuttals tomorrow; I didn't read your strat yet, but I hope to a certain extent that it fairs well against mine and that we'll have a good debate about this later. Peace.

[Uzumaki Lee]

Strategy

Grimmjow will use Gran Rey Cero at the other team to block LOS and kill anyone who charges, while Szaeyel will use his Image-creating device to show my team (not including Grimmjow) standing behind Grimmjow, all in a fighting position. If he can charge Cero with Grimmjow while setting up his device, he will do so.

The cero will be cancelled out by my one, heck my teams attack could even overpower your attack by the arrow/cero combo. Since my Grimm uses two gran ray cero’s right off the bat and there is constant spamming of arrows this should damage your team and is a big distraction. You firing the cero from the beginning makes it easier to block LOS.

Mayuri will release his Shikai, place all of his Arrancar bombs aside from 2 behind Grimmjow where our illusions are, and meld to the ground behind the bombs and outside of the bombs' AoE. While the illusions are in place, my team (not including Grimmjow) will hide/take cover behind the illusions/however they can and make sure they're not seen.


Mayuri imo will not have the time to set the bombs imo as he will from the very start have to be alert due to the gran cero and constant arrows. I think either Syazel or Mayuri may die from the initial attack. Since LoS has been blocked from the moment out cero’s collide this will make it easier for mayuri to carry out our plan

Mayuri will do whatever he can to negate Uryu's attacks like he did in Las Noches (in the manga), and will do whatever he can to take down the other team. Mayuri will set bombs close to the opponent where Szaeyel will send one of the Arrancar he starts with to combat the opponent (detonating the bomb and destroying the fodderheal Arrancar and whoever it engages with).
Mayuri will not be able to negate all the arrows as there is a constant spam and the cero at the beginning which will give my mayuri enough time and this will be a good distraction hence mayuri should not have the time to set the bombs. Syazels arrancar will be destroyed by grimm/ishida

From there my team is IC, and Grimmjow will be our main offense. If Grimmjow is ever severely hurt, he'll take a bite from one of Szaeyel's Fraccion (not the one that's gone off to detonate the bomb) to heal himself. If we end up killing the other team except for Mayuri, we'll spam ceros and whatnot all over the place to kill him.

At this point some of team could be damaged from my inital attck, and paralysed, from here we finish things off

[Mizukage Hitsugaya 10]

With superior ranged attacks, and strategy by uzumaki lee, he takes this.
Although Szayel is a superior combatant to Uruyu, Uruyu has better synergy with his team:zaru
I vote for uzumaki lee

[Sajin]

^I think you need to elaborate more on your vote so that it would count :zaru

Like, add a few lines/sentences about how the match plays out in regards to the strategies.

I'll personally try to vote tonight.

[Uzumaki Lee]

^
Who are you leaning towards? :LOS

[Sajin]

Well, tbh I'm learning to Daviddd just because of the preset (IIRC Szayel should majorly reduce damage from Uryu's attacks), but your strats are confusing so it may go either way I guess, I haven't really given it much thought yet.

[BlackSmoke]

Ah David you do realise arrancar mines explode when they sense an Arrancar near them....you essentially blew up your own Grimmjow a bit by placing them behind him...
Iono can you clarify that for me ? XD

[Outer Path]

Ah David you do realise arrancar mines explode when they sense an Arrancar near them....you essentially blew up your own Grimmjow a bit by placing them behind him...
Iono can you clarify that for me ? XD

If Mayuri thinks it's wise to place the mines further behind him, he'll place the mines further behind him.

He's also supposed to tell Grimmjow all about his abilities/attacks during the prep time.

And we should know by now that Mayuri knows all about his own attacks, so knowledge on the bombs' "activation distance" will cover this.

[Uzumaki Lee]

If Mayuri thinks it's wise to place the mines further behind him, he'll place the mines further behind him.

He's also supposed to tell Grimmjow all about his abilities/attacks during the prep time.

And we should know by now that Mayuri knows all about his own attacks, so knowledge on the bombs' "activation distance" will cover this.

Your not going to have time to set the bombs imo

[Karma カルマ]

I will place a vote later.

[BlackSmoke]

Writing papers, my next post in this thread will be my vote :uwah

[Sajin]

Vote Daviddd

Unfortunately, this is a mirror match that, as hard as I tried to see the change in the picture brought by the differences in strategies, still mostly comes down to Szayel vs Uryu.

The initial GRC blasts make a HUGE explosion in the middle of the room; Uryu's 1200 consecutive arrows spam should allow him to quickly negate the effectiveness of Mirage Tool and the landmines (which would likely only affect Grimmjow on ul's team anyway); however, I don't think Grimm can make GRC repetitively like that, and I'm not sure if Mayuri can unmeld from the wall/floor quickly enough to cut someone who isn't Szayel's Fraccion, especially since Daviddd's Mayuri who stayed at the back has knowledge of this ability and should be able to realize what happened once he notices ul Mayuri's disappearance. Anyway, Szayel's ability to reduce damage from Uryu's attacks pretty much secures him victory in a duel that would probably happen, and the other characters are in relatively same fighting condition and should therefore IMO pretty much cancel each other out.

[Mizukage Hitsugaya 10]

^I think you need to elaborate more on your vote so that it would count :zaru

Like, add a few lines/sentences about how the match plays out in regards to the strategies.

I'll personally try to vote tonight.

I'll vote officially later tonight then.

[Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez]

This is a really hard one... I dislike voting on mirror matches, and this will be brief as there's really not much I can go into detail about, but I'll do my best.

Like Sajin said, it would come down to between Ishida and Syz., and I think Syz's intelligence and observing skills and ways to counter each team's strength and weaknesses would push the team into victory, and Syz. would beat Ishida, I believe.

Vote: Daviddd

[Outer Path]

Forgot to say - repping all voters as usual, regardless of your vote :LOS

I'm grateful for everyone who takes their time to vote :amuse

[BlackSmoke]

Strategy

Grimmjow will use Gran Rey Cero at the other team to block LOS and kill anyone who charges, while Szaeyel will use his Image-creating device to show my team (not including Grimmjow) standing behind Grimmjow, all in a fighting position. If he can charge Cero with Grimmjow while setting up his device, he will do so.

Mayuri will release his Shikai, place all of his Arrancar bombs aside from 2 behind Grimmjow where our illusions are, and meld to the ground behind the bombs and outside of the bombs' AoE. While the illusions are in place, my team (not including Grimmjow) will hide/take cover behind the illusions/however they can and make sure they're not seen.



Alright, so Uzu Lee was smart and used 2 Gran Rey Ceros. This one cancels out your first one and makes a mess of LOS. While this is happening Daviddd has Syazel & Mayruri setting up mines and mirage tool. Well you get blasted by that second GRC and are heavily injured +1200 arrows nailing your team
( Syazel has only been proven to reduce damage of spirit pressure he analyzed in his room...I don't like the fact you used anti arrancar mines when your team is composed of 2 arrancar too but eh what eve).
After this initial clash the clear advantage goes to Uzumaki Lee and so does my Vote.

Vote Uzumaki Lee

[Uzumaki Lee]

@sajin

Grimm should easily be able to use 2 gran cero's repteadly

[Outer Path]

@sajin

Grimm should easily be able to use 2 gran cero's repteadly

If he could, why didn't he?

Edit: Scratch that, I just realized he didn't because his first one did seemingly nothing to Vizard Ichigo :facepalm

Anyways, I have high doubts Unreleased Grimmjow can use his most powerful unreleased attack twice in a row.
Gahh damnit it's bedtime again :( sorry about this. Anyways, peace and I wish you the best of luck rebuttaling.

[Uzumaki Lee]

This is a really hard one... I dislike voting on mirror matches, and this will be brief as there's really not much I can go into detail about, but I'll do my best.

Like Sajin said, it would come down to between Ishida and Syz., and I think Syz's intelligence and observing skills and ways to counter each team's strength and weaknesses would push the team into victory, and Syz. would beat Ishida, I believe.

Vote: Daviddd

So Syazel wont be effected by the constant spamming of arrows, and the two cero's at the start?
You make it seem as if im going to let syazel just stand there and let him observe all my skills, he will constantly be on the back foot getting hit and dodging arrows etc while mayuri goes and paralyses him

If he could, why didn't he?

Edit: Scratch that, I just realized he didn't because his first one did seemingly nothing to Vizard Ichigo :facepalm

Anyways, I have high doubts Unreleased Grimmjow can use his most powerful unreleased attack twice in a row.
Gahh damnit it's bedtime again :( sorry about this. Anyways, peace and I wish you the best of luck rebuttaling.

so what ichigo can spam 2 or more getsuga tensho's and grimm cant do more than one gran cero?

[Sajin]

@sajin

Grimm should easily be able to use 2 gran cero's repteadly

Even if he could, his Grimmjow is left IC and can counter it if needed. Even if your Grimm did gain a small advantage, I just don't see your Grimm winning a mirror match before his allies interfere, sorry.

[Mizukage Hitsugaya 10]

Very well, my official vote:

Because the match starts off with both teams spamming AOE attacks, the initial phase will go to uzumaki lee. Considering when the match starts GJ fires two GRCs and Ishida unleashes his barrage of arrows, this will give his Mayuri the distraction he needs to shunpo in and paralyze one of Daviddd's combatants, at best he'd take GJ out of the fight, at worst he only takes out Szayel. Either way the debris thrown up allows both Mayuris a chance to take out a combatant. Assuming that the two weakest combatants are taken out (Ishida and Szayel) then Uzumaki lee wins. Ishida can move his limbs even after Mayuri's Shikai, making him an excellent counter. With Szayel out of the picture, Ishida can help Mayuri and GJ with their mirrors.
I vote for uzumaki lee

[Sajin]

- 12 Hour warning -

[Kirabi]

I'm in your match breaking your tie :rofl

Anyway, lee's team is blitzing and David's is prepping while this happens. The initial Cero and arrow spam is going to prevent Mayuri from laying his bombs, negate the image generator, and possibly kill Mayuri and/or Syzael. Now ul's Mayuri wall melds and with his shikai should be able to paralyze Mayuri or Syzael if they're still alive and severly distract the enemy Grimmjow. Now it's 3 on one, no way Grimmjow can pull that off.

My Vote: Uzumaki Lee

[Cycloid]

The deciding factor in this match is the support. unfortunately Uryuu's arrows are useless against Szayel (even a selee schneider through his soul sleep did nothing). After the intial GRC's collide the second GRC will be shot blindly and I have my doubts as to whether it is possible to pull of two GRCs in such quick succession plus daviddd's support are to hide anyway. the others cancel each other out with szayel tipping the balance in Daviddd's favor.

Vote Daviddd

[Uzumaki Lee]

The deciding factor in this match is the support. unfortunately Uryuu's arrows are useless against Szayel (even a selee schneider through his soul sleep did nothing). After the intial GRC's collide the second GRC will be shot blindly and I have my doubts as to whether it is possible to pull of two GRCs in such quick succession plus daviddd's support are to hide anyway. the others cancel each other out with szayel tipping the balance in Daviddd's favor.

Vote Daviddd

Wh would the second GRDC fired blindly? imo Mayuri and Syazel wont be able to hide as they will be on the back foot dodging etc



Thanks to everyone thats voted in the match so far :)

[Cycloid]

Wh would the second GRDC fired blindly? imo Mayuri and Syazel wont be able to hide as they will be on the back foot dodging etc



Thanks to everyone thats voted in the match so far :)

The second GRC will be fired blindly because as you pointed out earlier, two GRCs colliding will block LOS.

[Uzumaki Lee]

the second GRC will be fired blindly because as you poited out earlier, two GRCs colliding will block LOS.

Yes but it will be fired in the same direction, since the LoS is gone the other team wont see the GRC coming which will be more deadly

[Cycloid]

The thing is, according to his strat, they are to hide after his GRC. Another GRC colliding with grimmjows will let them know that your team is near which will cause them to hurry up with their part. hence, they will move when they become aware that they have less time than anticipated.

this is just my view on this unless i am reading too much into his strat.

[Uzumaki Lee]

The thing is, according to his strat, they are to hide after his GRC. Another GRC colliding with grimmjows will let them know that your team is near which will cause them to hurry up with their part. hence, they will move when they become aware that they have less time than anticipated.

this is just my view on this unless i am reading too much into his strat.

As soon as his GRC collides with mine, there will be a blockage of LoS, even if his team are ready to hide they will be on the alert as a GRC will come through the smoke damage them, imo maybe syazel may even die. The second GRC will surprise them and mayuri will follow the strat. The thing is im sure syazel cannot hide while ishida is constantly spamming arrows, there is no way that syazel can easily evade all the arrows, aswell as carry out his strat

[Outer Path]

I forfeit.

I realize for some reason I hardly care about my match and that even if I advance here, I won't have nearly as much fun as UL would.

Really, I'm hardly able to get myself to rebuttal and UL's going for the win.

Hence, there's no reason for me to continue. Sorry for disappointing you guys - my heart's just into it for one reason or another.

Gg while it lasted, Uzumaki Lee.

[Uzumaki Lee]

I forfeit.

I realize for some reason I hardly care about my match and that even if I advance here, I won't have nearly as much fun as UL would.

Really, I'm hardly able to get myself to rebuttal and UL's going for the win.

Hence, there's no reason for me to continue. Sorry for disappointing you guys - my heart's just into it for one reason or another.

Gg while it lasted, Uzumaki Lee.

Damn man :(i didnt want the match to end like this, it was a good game, hope to play you again thanks


thanks for voting everyone

[Outer Path]

Will rep the rest of voters when I get my power back, of course :LOS

[Sajin]

That's a pity to say the least. I guess the fact that this is a mirror match played its part, oh well. Are you really sure about this? It should only get more interesting with time in Davy Back, and you weren't really losing, I mean, it is 3-3 and the match can still go either way.

[Outer Path]

That's a pity to say the least. I guess the fact that this is a mirror match played its part, oh well. Are you really sure about this? It should only get more interesting with time in Davy Back, and you weren't really losing, I mean, it is 3-3 and the match can still go either way.

Yea, I'm sure; I know it's about even, but I'm for some reason I ended up taking this very lightly.

The main reason I'm forfeiting is because I can't seem to put any effort into rebuttals, while I see Uzumaki Lee doing his very best to win.

Hence, I don't deserve to win, and don't want to win. Thanks for giving me a 2nd chance, though :)

[Uzumaki Lee]

Yea, I'm sure; I know it's about even, but I'm for some reason I ended up taking this very lightly.

The main reason I'm forfeiting is because I can't seem to put any effort into rebuttals, while I see Uzumaki Lee doing his very best to win.

Hence, I don't deserve to win, and don't want to win. Thanks for giving me a 2nd chance, though :)

You deserve it as much as me m8, the match still could go either way

[Sajin]

Very well, if that's your decision I can't do anything about it :-( I hope you still consider joining the next tournament, though.

Match is closed. uzumaki lee wins by forfeit and advances to the next round.

[nick1689]

Dammit, I read through it all just to see that he forfeited :( Prob gonna vote for UL anyway

Hope to see you back here david

[BlackSmoke]

What's wrong with forfeiting?

Still was a good match nonetheless o.o

[Karma カルマ]

Just read through everything and I was about to vote UL when I see Daviddd forfeited.

TWICE THIS FUCKING HAPPENS TO ME IN THIS FUCKING BD.

I am never coming back here.

[Sajin]

^This match was going to end yesterday anyways :oh