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strongarm85
11-06-2009, 10:03 PM
The Ombudsman Column
Pox or Fox? We Report. You Decide.
By Michael Getler
November 4, 2009

One of the most interesting aspects of this peculiar job is that you hear from viewers about lots of things that surprise you. I expect to hear regularly about The NewsHour, Frontline, Bill Moyers Journal, NOW, Tavis Smiley or Washington Week and all the high-profile documentaries. But every once in a while there is a National Memorial Day Concert from the Capitol lawn that turns out to have a fascinating back story or a timely episode of Sid the Science Kid about flu vaccinations that stirs up at least some parents, as happened just last week.

Now, the venerable Sesame Street is suddenly and surprisingly (for me) in the crosshairs. The question is this: Did this icon of public broadcasting and gold standard for high quality educational broadcasting for children for 40 years stoop to take a camouflaged shot at Fox News?

The letters from complaining viewers are printed below. There are not many of them, but as is often the case, even a single viewer can make an important observation worthy of reporting and discussing. My eagle-eyed assistant, Marcia Apperson, reminds me that we have received the occasional complaint about this particular episode before. It aired for the first time two years ago and a couple of times in 2008 and this year. But I confess that this is the first time it caught my eye and the first time we heard from a number of viewers.

The episode, which aired Oct. 29, involves one of Sesame Street's scores of colorful creations, the Grouch News Network, in which muppet Oscar the Grouch is the host, pursuing GNN's dedication to "all grouchy, all disgustin', all yucky" news. But another character feels that the Grouch is not grouchy enough and threatens to switch to "Pox News, now there's a trashy news show," she says.

Everybody who wrote to me heard this as "Fox News," and I can't really blame them. When I went and watched the tape for the first time, I thought I heard "Fox" as well, perhaps because of the association one assumes when you hear "news" right after the word. However, when I watched and listened more carefully a second time, it was clear that the character said "Pox" and not "Fox" and the closed captioning that runs across the bottom of the screen when the sound is muted also stated "Pox News."

Now, on one level, Pox News as an alternative and competitor to the Grouch News Network would seem to be a clever and appropriate title. But you would have to be anesthetized as a producer not to assume that many parents will hear this, or assume this, to be a clever shot at Fox News. It's a parody, a play on words, and has a timely feel to it at this time, especially, because of the battle now going on publicly between Fox and the White House. So it's probably not surprising that last week's showing got more people's attention.

I don't know what was in the head of the producers, but my guess is that this was one of those parodies that was too good to resist. But it should have been resisted. Broadcasters can tell parents whatever they think of Fox or any other network, but you shouldn't do it through the kids.

Here are the letters, followed by a sampling of mail from viewers about other recent ombudsman columns on Sid the Science Kid and on Frontline's "The Warning."

Source: http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/2009/11/pox_or_fox_we_report_you_decide.html

Here is the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO-1j9T90-8

Xion
11-06-2009, 10:18 PM
lol well at least they're being honest

Fox News is the trailer trash of news. Seriously, it's unhealthy.

narutosimpson
11-06-2009, 10:23 PM
G-N-N sounds alot like C-N-N, so who gives a fuck?

Cardboard Tube Knight
11-06-2009, 10:29 PM
This is news...?

Seriously if Fox is going to be this sensitive they need to just pull up their fucking dress and get off the play ground.

the box
11-06-2009, 10:33 PM
fox news is for poor trailer monkeys with low values and education sesame street be pimpin

Cardboard Tube Knight
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Seems that people here might have a certain opinion of Fox.

Ehandz
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
I like Bill O'Reily but Glenn Beck scares me.

Regalian
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
How is this even an issue? It's Sesame Street, for expletive's sake, and what they aired was hardly a dig at Fox.

Michael Getler must be pretty thin-skinned.

Omolara
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
This is news...?

Seriously if Fox is going to be this sensitive they need to just pull up their fucking dress and get off the play ground.

Hey, as a person who wore a dress on the playground, I'll have you know I was a badass on the jungle gym. Don't insult us dress wearers.


Faux is more like the kid who calls the monkey bars stupid because he can't swing.

-MBS-
11-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Fox News Is awesome. You have:
Fox & Friends.
Spectacular Financial commentary by Neil Cavuto.
Superb Political commentary with Bill O'Reilly Jr.
The Fox Report with Shepard Smith.
Topping off with Sean Hannity and the wonderful Ann Coulter.
And of course, my man Glenn Beck. :awesome

Aqua Timez
11-06-2009, 11:03 PM
not newsworthy in deed... the frick? lol

Hinako
11-06-2009, 11:14 PM
PBS is saying this is news? <____<

strongarm85
11-06-2009, 11:36 PM
The article I posted was from PBS guys.

Like most Networks they don't produce their own shows. They didn't know that the dig at Fox was in the episode until after the episode aired.

Quincy James
11-06-2009, 11:46 PM
My guess is they're making it sound ridiculously similar to existing news for a reason... so they can poke fun at it. It's not a big deal. :zaru

Altron
11-06-2009, 11:48 PM
haha I heard it as "Fox" news too. :lmao Sesame Street brings back so much memories. :awesome

Robot-Overlord
11-07-2009, 01:32 AM
This just in Sesame Street is now a enemy of America, they are evil socialist liberal puppets. If you value you're family morals you will stop you're kids from watching them now!!
:LOS

Cardboard Tube Knight
11-07-2009, 01:36 AM
This just in Sesame Street is now a enemy of America, they are evil socialist liberal puppets. If you value you're family morals you will stop you're kids from watching them now!!
:LOS

Sesame pushing for education probably already made it an enemy of FOX. I mean we all know public schools are a socialist institution that work to feed our children into the liberal colleges.

Blaze of Glory
11-07-2009, 02:30 AM
LOL OH MAN OH MAN!

This beats all my birthday gift put together :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

PBS rules! :ohpek :ohpek

Megatonton
11-07-2009, 02:31 AM
How dare they drag The Grouch into this?! :argh

Fox should focus their shit on Bert and Ernie, they'll get more miles out of them.

Blaze of Glory
11-07-2009, 02:33 AM
How dare they drag The Grouch into this?! :argh

Fox should focus their shit on Bert and Ernie, they'll get more miles out of them.

Nah, they should target the Cookiemonster :zaru

KFC
11-07-2009, 02:37 AM
Fox News just needs something to bitch about.

Megatonton
11-07-2009, 02:37 AM
Obesity and gays: Are they unpatriotic?

(We really ought to have a stupid Fox n Friends gif for these kinds of headlines.) :LOS

Plot Hole
11-07-2009, 02:39 AM
Epic win now I remember why I watched the show as a child. :gar

ameterasu_41
11-07-2009, 02:42 AM
This is news...?

Seriously if Fox is going to be this sensitive they need to just pull up their fucking dress and get off the play ground.

So if they decided they didn't like Jews and started taking shots at them, would that be different?

Bryan Paulsen
11-07-2009, 02:44 AM
GNN = CNN. POX = FOX. Big fuckin' deal.

Aside from that, even if it were a shot at FOX, for the sake of argument, it's no different from the social engineering that goes on at public schools. One only need to look around this forum to see the effects - there's imbeciles on here that think the NYT and MSNBC are neutral, while only FOX is extreme, and then you have a bunch of clowns that hate Fox news, but never even watch it (you know who you are).

Cardboard Tube Knight
11-07-2009, 02:45 AM
So if they decided they didn't like Jews and started taking shots at them, would that be different?

WHAT IF I DRAG MY ASS OVER RAINBOWS.

Seriously I don't know how being of a certain ethnic group is anything like being a fake news channel. The example I stated above makes just about as much sense.

So to answer, would it be any different...well yes, it would be nothing like it. In fact what you said didn't even make sense.

Razgriez
11-07-2009, 02:52 AM
I dont know why they would care when practically everything else has trashed their news network. Including some of their shows.

Cardboard Tube Knight
11-07-2009, 02:53 AM
I dont know why they would care when practically everything else has trashed their news network. Including some of their shows.

Shows on regular network FOX have little in common with FOX NEWS. FOX Network is one of the most liberal stations on network television.

MonkeyMallet
11-07-2009, 02:59 AM
Hey, as a person who wore a dress on the playground, I'll have you know I was a badass on the jungle gym. Don't insult us dress wearers.


Faux is more like the kid who calls the monkey bars stupid because he can't swing.

Good analogy.



Anywho, almost any publicity is good publicity. I don't think there is a "hostile" competitive relationship between the PBS and Faux, or even much of competitive relationship...


Edit: ok, see, that's a probem. You go around calling shows "liberal" or "conservative"? Those labels just don't work like that

Kusogitsune
11-07-2009, 03:08 AM
Pfft, kids shows make fun of popular culture all the time. It's not like the kids watching it are gonna remember it anyway, if they even get it.

Razgriez
11-07-2009, 03:11 AM
I think the only thing that is unnecessary about the common is that its an opinionated political jab at another network that really has no reason to be on an kids show. I know Sesame Street is known to deal with current issues in an friendly kid sort of way but busting on one news network just seems like an flame.

I know a lot of you here dont care and like seeing Fox News getting bashed since your all a bunch of raging haters. But think of it this way. Just cause you hate something doesnt mean you gotta tell everyone's 5 year old kids about it.

Kusogitsune
11-07-2009, 03:14 AM
I think the only thing that is unnecessary about the common is that its an opinionated political jab at another network that really has no reason to be on an kids show. I know Sesame Street is known to deal with current issues in an friendly kid sort of way but busting on one news network just seems like an flame.

I know a lot of you here dont care and like seeing Fox News getting bashed since your all a bunch of raging haters. But think of it this way. Just cause you hate something doesnt mean you gotta tell everyone's 5 year old kids about it.
I'd be surprised if most 5 year olds would even notice it.

RAGING BONER
11-07-2009, 03:25 AM
I like Bill O'Reily but Glenn Beck scares me.

he's trying to prepare you you ungrateful ass.

Inuhanyou
11-07-2009, 03:28 AM
:hurr Everyone's taking political hits these days :hurr

But yah, the conservative agenda network should get some new women's panties if they've pissed themselves about people taking shots at their corrupt tyranny called "egotism" :hurr

They can be "not whitehouse approved" when Michelle Bachmann says so after all, man up or do us all a favor and let a real network take over :hurr

MonkeyMallet
11-07-2009, 04:11 AM
I think the only thing that is unnecessary about the common is that its an opinionated political jab at another network that really has no reason to be on an kids show. I know Sesame Street is known to deal with current issues in an friendly kid sort of way but busting on one news network just seems like an flame.

I know a lot of you here dont care and like seeing Fox News getting bashed since your all a bunch of raging haters. But think of it this way. Just cause you hate something doesnt mean you gotta tell everyone's 5 year old kids about it.

raging haters, nice one

Kirsty
11-07-2009, 09:16 AM
Oh plz;33 its a kids show...

Scholzee
11-07-2009, 09:27 AM
And thats why I never liked it :D:.

Raiden
11-07-2009, 11:26 AM
Don't worry, the children will live.

In before Oscar runs against Obama.

Blaze of Glory
11-07-2009, 12:24 PM
GNN = CNN. POX = FOX. Big fuckin' deal.

Aside from that, even if it were a shot at FOX, for the sake of argument, it's no different from the social engineering that goes on at public schools. One only need to look around this forum to see the effects - there's imbeciles on here that think the NYT and MSNBC are neutral, while only FOX is extreme, and then you have a bunch of clowns that hate Fox news, but never even watch it (you know who you are).

I think the only thing that is unnecessary about the common is that its an opinionated political jab at another network that really has no reason to be on an kids show. I know Sesame Street is known to deal with current issues in an friendly kid sort of way but busting on one news network just seems like an flame.

I know a lot of you here dont care and like seeing Fox News getting bashed since your all a bunch of raging haters. But think of it this way. Just cause you hate something doesnt mean you gotta tell everyone's 5 year old kids about it.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/bigzeesh92/u-mad1.jpg

Elias
11-07-2009, 01:24 PM
That's actually kind of cute.

sadated_peon
11-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Once again is seems that reality has a liberal bias