View Full Version : The horrors known as the One Piece dub (May contain spoilers)
Masaki
08-27-2005, 11:24 PM
http://opguide.bravehost.com/
At the moment, this site is down (should be back up tomorrow). However, it gives detailed descriptions of the changes from the amazing One Piece to the "dub". These include changes on character development, important cuts and edits, music, scenes, dialogue, and even storyline.
Discuss what you know and what is listed in this site.
Edit: In addition to these, text all over the show, English and Japanese, have been removed, as well as cigarettes, sake/wine/beer etc, guns, and some knives.
Many fight scenes have also been cut, and knives are often placed further away from a person's body than originally.
Edit2: The site is back up!
Wing-Zero
08-27-2005, 11:26 PM
the dub scares me i cant even stand to here the word "zolo"
Masaki
08-27-2005, 11:27 PM
Sanji's voice also harms my ears.
Kucheeky Badkuya
08-27-2005, 11:35 PM
Zolo and no blood. They cut out Captain Kuro's seen were he starts oblirating his own troops in the manga there was blood everywhere.
Masaki
08-27-2005, 11:42 PM
And they made "Zolo" make an excuse about Mihawk's attacks affecting his performance!
ChickenPotPie
08-27-2005, 11:46 PM
My biggest gripe with the dub is that they took away the original BGM and replaced it with forgetful organ music. It seems like all the scenes in One Piece have less than half the impact they once had.
Kaiten
08-28-2005, 12:23 AM
The only voice in the One Piece dub that doesn't make my ears bleed and give me hives is "Zolo's". I personally think his voice is tollerable.....
Oh and I like the theme song. *runs away*
Daniee
08-28-2005, 12:24 AM
My biggest gripe with the dub is that they took away the original BGM and replaced it with forgetful organ music. It seems like all the scenes in One Piece have less than half the impact they once had.
I also hate this the most...I just can't watch the cool Luffy moments without hearing "GomuGomu Bazooka" in the background:sad
Maffy the Love Doctor
08-28-2005, 01:14 AM
4kids makes me sooo angry! they changed and/or screwed up EVERYTHING! i really hope they stop dubbing it and it gets licensed by a better producer. or better yet, i hope nobody dubs it XP.
Axass
08-28-2005, 09:21 AM
The super soakers are the stupidest thing ever. 4Kids should be incriminated for "atrocities against the human race".
organizedcrime
08-28-2005, 10:42 AM
The one thing that pissed me off the most was Sanji's voice, eaugh it was like hearing someone beat a shark with a frozen cat!
Masaki
08-28-2005, 10:46 AM
The super soakers are the stupidest thing ever. 4Kids should be incriminated for "atrocities against the human race".
You forgot cork guns, cap guns, removal of random guns, and changing the colors of others. Plus changing a scene where Sanji held a gun to him holding a Katana up to Miss Allsunday/Miss Sunday.
I also hate "Miss Sunday"'s southern voice.
Sanji
08-28-2005, 10:51 AM
I could go forever talking about how bad the dub is. Let me just say short that the dub has to be the worst fucking dub I've ever seen, and I've seen bad dubs.
Amatsu
08-28-2005, 11:05 AM
erg I swearr everytime I hear yami... er Johnny in Dub Piece I always get the impression that I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere Johnny jumped in the middle of Luffy and Arlong and yelled out "NOT SO FAST ARLONG! FOR YOU HAVE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!!!!"
Not to mention turning Laboon into A FREAKIN' ICEBURG!
Skipping Little Garden one of the GREATEST arc's EVER!
I mean no Mr. Prince! HOW COULD THEY DENY US MR. PRINCE?!
And well it just plain sucks.
Maffy the Love Doctor
08-28-2005, 12:48 PM
i feel your pain man :sad.
Masaki
08-28-2005, 01:20 PM
I could go forever talking about how bad the dub is. Let me just say short that the dub has to be the worst fucking dub I've ever seen, and I've seen bad dubs.
One time I was ranting about the dub to someone on MSN. I was ranting to the point that there was an adrenaline rush in my fingers so I could type faster.
GTOnizukadude
08-28-2005, 03:40 PM
The only good things about the dub are "Zolo's" tolerable voice and the fact that they skipped the Apis ark. Other than that, 4kids is satan incarnated into a TV channel.
Masaki
08-28-2005, 06:55 PM
What's sad is... in the link in my first post, you can basically get episode summaries from the edit lists alone.
kapsi
08-29-2005, 07:05 AM
THis thread is funny.
Maffy the Love Doctor
08-29-2005, 02:15 PM
that's cuz the dub is sooo damn stupid that it becomes funny. i'm sure we can all agree that the only reason why any one piece fan would ever watch the dub is just so they can make fun of it :P.
silverwings
08-29-2005, 02:29 PM
I last heard it was 22 episodes skipped and 10 episodes spliced.
Alabaster is just a hollow shell of its former self and I really don't want to know what they do with Chopper.
I do want to see them handle the goatman. Cuz that will be hilarious. :laugh
Masaki
08-29-2005, 03:12 PM
The site I posted in my first post is up now. You should look at it, dub episode 38 in particular.
It shows all 20 levels of hell that the dub has been through.
Edit: It seems to be down every night due to daily bandwidth.
I just heard dub Buggy speak. It's like hearing Ginyu and Frieza speak at the same time... out of sync.
General Shino
08-30-2005, 01:06 AM
You should really watch the dub.... they dub One Piece so much its funny... remember when Nami was trying to get Baki drunk so she can take his maps... heres how it went in the Dub
Baki: Nami... you should try my new brew. I call it Grapefruit Punch!
Nami: Wow! It tastes delicous Baki!
Nami (thinking): This is great... All I have to do is wait until they get acidic indegstion from the Punch and pass out....
Obviously they couldnt say drunk... but how can you pass out from grape fruit punch?
-Oh here are some of my other favorite dub thigns they did
-Sanji has a lolipop instead of a cigeratte
-Whenever Usopp gets scared from a fight Zoro imitates chicken sounds like a 5 year old
- They gave Shanks a british voice.....
If you guys have any other Funny things or quotes you found amusing from the dubs please feel free to share it...
Giant Enemy Crab
08-30-2005, 07:17 AM
Helmeppo's hammer gun
Sanji's VA: David Moo
mgrace
08-30-2005, 07:22 AM
I watched an episode of One Piece and found the voices were v ery similiar to Muscle Man.. which I always fell asleep through due to long days at work....
Yeah convince me to watch one piece...
Hermie
08-30-2005, 12:25 PM
http://arlongpark.com/imgs/dubs/ep3-01.jpg
OtacontheOtaku
08-30-2005, 12:32 PM
One Piece could have been one of those shows that truly surpassed all others in America. Then the absolute and total fucktards at 4Kids got their hands on it. I actually wouldn't be even half as pissed off as I am if they didn't promise to maintain the quality of their series in the future at last year's Otakon... before coming out and showing the absolute and total rape of this show. I actually think in it's original stages, the people at 4Kids may have actually tried to keep this promise, as they simply translated the first opening theme to English. I'm guessing one of the Amazing FOXtard Executives™ thought to their brilliant selves with a shit-eating grin "hey, you know what a pirate show needs? Hip hop, cause as you know, those kids today love the hip hop, especially that rising new star MCHammer - He's pretty popular right? Let's get him!". Then of course going by 4Kids even more brilliant logic, guns are of course very bad, so anyone who sees one is immediately going to go out and grab a 17th century style pistol to shoot up their school, cause who's gonna teach them it's wrong, their parents? No way, not when there's Yoga, Swinger Parties, and as much beer as those wacky parents can do out of a beer bong. It's funny, they get pregnant early, don't have a childhood, then re-live it when they can leave their kids in front of a TV show or video game... it's HILARIOUS...
God I hate American society.
stormbreak
08-30-2005, 12:40 PM
In the flashback in episode 4 i think. When the guy gets shot in the face Shanks says "Tell that guy that it was only a cap gun" the horror!
Masaki
08-30-2005, 01:47 PM
One Piece could have been one of those shows that truly surpassed all others in America. Then the absolute and total fucktards at 4Kids got their hands on it. I actually wouldn't be even half as pissed off as I am if they didn't promise to maintain the quality of their series in the future at last year's Otakon... before coming out and showing the absolute and total rape of this show. I actually think in it's original stages, the people at 4Kids may have actually tried to keep this promise, as they simply translated the first opening theme to English. I'm guessing one of the Amazing FOXtard Executives™ thought to their brilliant selves with a shit-eating grin "hey, you know what a pirate show needs? Hip hop, cause as you know, those kids today love the hip hop, especially that rising new star MCHammer - He's pretty popular right? Let's get him!". Then of course going by 4Kids even more brilliant logic, guns are of course very bad, so anyone who sees one is immediately going to go out and grab a 17th century style pistol to shoot up their school, cause who's gonna teach them it's wrong, their parents? No way, not when there's Yoga, Swinger Parties, and as much beer as those wacky parents can do out of a beer bong. It's funny, they get pregnant early, don't have a childhood, then re-live it when they can leave their kids in front of a TV show or video game... it's HILARIOUS...
God I hate American society.
A. You just got repped.
B. I just watched the episode of Pokemon that they cut out for gun use. It created major plot holes.
C. And I just love how knives and swords don't make blood come out.
A little kid: "I'm going to slash this knife into your stomach. Don't worry, you won't bleed. 'Zolo' didn't bleed when he was slashed by Mihawk on TV"
Amatsu
08-30-2005, 06:27 PM
One Piece could have been one of those shows that truly surpassed all others in America. Then the absolute and total fucktards at 4Kids got their hands on it. I actually wouldn't be even half as pissed off as I am if they didn't promise to maintain the quality of their series in the future at last year's Otakon... before coming out and showing the absolute and total rape of this show. I actually think in it's original stages, the people at 4Kids may have actually tried to keep this promise, as they simply translated the first opening theme to English. I'm guessing one of the Amazing FOXtard Executives™ thought to their brilliant selves with a shit-eating grin "hey, you know what a pirate show needs? Hip hop, cause as you know, those kids today love the hip hop, especially that rising new star MCHammer - He's pretty popular right? Let's get him!". Then of course going by 4Kids even more brilliant logic, guns are of course very bad, so anyone who sees one is immediately going to go out and grab a 17th century style pistol to shoot up their school, cause who's gonna teach them it's wrong, their parents? No way, not when there's Yoga, Swinger Parties, and as much beer as those wacky parents can do out of a beer bong. It's funny, they get pregnant early, don't have a childhood, then re-live it when they can leave their kids in front of a TV show or video game... it's HILARIOUS...
God I hate American society.
You are awesome! XD
OtacontheOtaku
08-31-2005, 12:15 PM
lol, thanx guys. I just really can't stand the way One Piece was treated in it's American release. I can only hope and pray it gets a re-release as other 4Kids artistic-abortions are.
Masaki
08-31-2005, 12:20 PM
lol, thanx guys. I just really can't stand the way One Piece was treated in it's American release. I can only hope and pray it gets a re-release as other 4Kids artistic-abortions are.
I don't think Pokemon was re-released. Also, the Yugioh DVDs apparently suck.
Edit Edit no... Dub update!:
So, I found this link on the Kaizoku-fansubs forums, which shows how lazy I am when it comes to researching this stuff the internet, and it seems that Toei is going to release a DVD for dub-only.
http://www.aaaanime.com/dvds.asp?view=item&code=DOP01
Discuss.
Also, discuss the fact that Zoro's real name is on the description, and the original's genres are listed as "Adventure, Comedy, Drama, Fantasy, Shounen", on ANN and this site lists it as "Adventure"
Edit Edit no... WTF!:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16970
Discuss once again.
My 10 year old nephew visited from NY recently. Once he found out that I had dvds of One Piece (subs that I burned to dvds of course), when we're not out taking him to theme parks and such, he would spend the day watching the OP subs.
The first thing he said was, "How come they cut the scene when all those people were struggling in the boat?" (first episode).
Then, after watching the 2nd episode, "How come in the US version he's named Zolo?"
:P :P
The rapping opening. Just listen to that crap and you will feel like bashing your head against a wall.
Masaki
09-01-2005, 12:51 PM
Is my "horrids known as the One Piece dub" thread being completely ignored?
Also, has anyone noticed that Sanji's lollipop is actually detailed?
General Shino
09-01-2005, 01:34 PM
Yeah.... have u been on the 4kids forums.... theres no way there are people 17 there... there all lying so they can lie together.... but they all know the truth.. Iv seen fcs to his lolipop there...
@rofl hammer gun.... and that cap gun crap was stupid too...
Masaki
09-01-2005, 02:02 PM
Yeah.... have u been on the 4kids forums.... theres no way there are people 17 there... there all lying so they can lie together.... but they all know the truth.. Iv seen fcs to his lolipop there...
@rofl hammer gun.... and that cap gun crap was stupid too...
I've been there once. A lot of the members there, as I've seen, joined to flame 4Kids.
Baby Raptor
09-01-2005, 04:14 PM
There is website have already dub and sub in differnce ONe piece http://opguide.bravehost.com/
i am laugh at Don Krieg throw dart with poision but intead suction stick to Luffy!!
Masaki
09-01-2005, 06:28 PM
In the fight between Usopp and Chu:
Sizzly Soda + Salsa = fire
And Axass or Tenshioni, could you merge this thread with my dub thread?
kapsi
09-02-2005, 08:42 PM
This is funny all right but... I've been browsing that dub changes site for a while and I must say that USA is an amazing country.
http://auditions4onepiece.ytmnd.com/
A little dub thing...
Maffy the Love Doctor
09-03-2005, 12:16 PM
haha, yeah i've seen that ish. but seriously, the dub isn't really funny cuz it trys to be. it's just so damn stupid that it's amusing of how dumb it can be :P.
Masaki
09-03-2005, 12:56 PM
http://auditions4onepiece.ytmnd.com/
A little dub thing...
I actually believe it.
stormbreak
09-03-2005, 04:11 PM
They have ruined Usopp :( They make him look like a complete fool, i mean he doesn't look like a really strong character, but they have made him pathetic and that voice, i want to kill them!
kapsi
09-03-2005, 05:24 PM
http://auditions4onepiece.ytmnd.com/
A little dub thing...
:rofl oh man...can I download these dubbed pieces somewhere?
Masaki
09-03-2005, 09:52 PM
They have ruined Usopp :( They make him look like a complete fool, i mean he doesn't look like a really strong character, but they have made him pathetic and that voice, i want to kill them!
They cut out half of Usopp's fight against Chu, including all of his speeches. They also cut out his duel with Daddy the Father and the Little Garden arc, which helped develop him a lot. I have a theory that Tony Tony Chopper will hardly ever fight, and they'll just have him around to increase toy sales, and the fight against Mr. 4 and Miss Merrychristmas will be cut out.
Masaki
09-04-2005, 02:04 PM
Bump. Please read my previous post.
General Shino
09-04-2005, 02:16 PM
I love the hammer gun... hilararious
CABLE
09-04-2005, 02:29 PM
Reasons to watch the One Piece dub:
-Gum Gum fruit
-Cursed Fruits
-Sanji's nasaly mobster accent
-Captain Chaser
-the mysterious smoke emmited from "Chaser's" mouth
-Sanji's lollypop
-"Zolo"
-"Shark and Awe"
-Grape Juice
-Krieg's darts
-Shank's scottish/aussie acent
-Mihawk's French accent
-Just about every L is converted to a R besides "Luffy"
-Bellemere being sent to the dugeon although when Arlong was defeated was never though as to release her.
-Kuina being hurt by jealous students but was never seen afterwards.
-Luffy's dub voice
-more to come.........
SeruraRenge
09-04-2005, 07:42 PM
What about when they introduce Mr.2. Jeez, they are gonna ruin him. It was amazing enough that Oda could create such a wierd character, and still make him so likeable, but now 4kids will destroy him. Of course, they will immediately cover up the fact that he is gay.
SeruraRenge
09-04-2005, 08:35 PM
The dub scares me. I also hate the fact that they always take out Kanji on the back of the jackets (Smoker, Mr.2). Apparently, 4kids beleives in protecting us from the "horrors" of being exposed to other cultures. Also, does anyone notice the flaw in their guns? I mean, they look like super soakers now, but they are still just as deadly. The only difference is that kids are stupid. Our parents take too much time protecting us.
*WARNING* I am about to go into ultra-mega-rant mode *WARNING*
For one thing, there's too much emphasis on safety and safety equipment: childproof medicine bottles, fireproof pajamas, child restraints, car seats, and helmets! Bicycle, baseball, skateboard, skooter helmets. Kids have to wear helmets now for everything but jerking off. Grown-ups have taken all the fun out of being a kid, just to save a few thousand lives. It's pathetic!
What's happened is, these baby boomers, these soft, fruity baby boomers, have raised an entire generation of soft, fruity kids who aren't even allowed to have hazardous toys, for Chrissakes! Hazardous toys, shit! Whatever happened to natural selection? Survival of the fittest? The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own. Simple stuff. Nature knows best!
And you'd be anxious and depressed too if you had to put up with pathetic, insecure, yuppie parents who enroll you in a college before you've even figured out which side of the playpen smells the worst and then fill you with Ritalin to get you in a mood they approve of, and drag you all over town in search of empty, meaningless structure: Little League, Cub Scouts, swimming, soccer, karate, piano, bagpipes, watercolors, witchcraft, glass blowing, and dildo practice. It's absurd!
*Shutting down rant mode*
Note: I did not think that all up myself. I got help from several professional ranters. Especially George Carlin.
darksage78
09-04-2005, 08:57 PM
I refer to this for all 4kids has done: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145
Masaki
09-05-2005, 01:14 AM
What about when they introduce Mr.2. Jeez, they are gonna ruin him. It was amazing enough that Oda could create such a wierd character, and still make him so likeable, but now 4kids will destroy him. Of course, they will immediately cover up the fact that he is gay.
Characters like Jango, Buggy, Hachi, and Bon Clay are often on the 5 minute specials before movies. They are pretty funny, and definitly favorites of a lot of fans. I laughed and cried when Bon Clay and his men attacked the Marines while Luffy got away, and you see Bon Clay doing his Ballet Kenpo.
SeruraRenge
09-05-2005, 01:23 AM
Characters like Jango, Buggy, Hachi, and Bon Clay are often on the 5 minute specials before movies. They are pretty funny, and definitly favorites of a lot of fans. I laughed and cried when Bon Clay and his men attacked the Marines while Luffy got away, and you see Bon Clay doing his Ballet Kenpo.
Jango's Dance Paradise was one of the best things I've seen in One Piece.
gaarasai
09-05-2005, 05:16 AM
I refer to this for all 4kids has done: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145
Ugh, that happening to luffy is just unbearable
Masaki
09-05-2005, 10:44 AM
Jango's Dance Paradise was one of the best things I've seen in One Piece.
I personally loved the baseball one. Zoro used three bats when up to bat, three mitts when on the field, and still had three bats "sheathed".
kapsi
09-05-2005, 11:00 AM
I personally loved the baseball one. Zoro used three bats when up to bat, three mitts when on the field, and still had three bats "sheathed".
What is this? A filler?
What is this? A filler?
Yeah. Shorts before the movie.
Maffy the Love Doctor
09-05-2005, 01:47 PM
my favorite short was definetely the soccer one :cool.
Masaki
09-05-2005, 03:05 PM
my favorite short was definetely the soccer one :cool.
I loved the part with Odacchi.
SeruraRenge
09-05-2005, 04:44 PM
I loved the part with Odacchi.
You mean where he kicked it, Colby caught it, he STILL commented on how great a shot it was, and then all the villains beat the crap out of him. yea, that was funny:laugh .
Masaki
09-05-2005, 04:47 PM
You mean where he kicked it, Colby caught it, he STILL commented on how great a shot it was, and then all the villains beat the crap out of him. yea, that was funny:laugh .
Yeah, and when Buggy said "Go for it!" and then said "Who the hell are you?" And he was the only one who even looked serious about soccer.
And Sanji... I knew something was going to happen when he was up.
kapsi
09-05-2005, 04:54 PM
Which ep is that?
It was the Soccer short before one the movies.
SeruraRenge
09-05-2005, 10:23 PM
It was before the third movie. Also, I too knew something was gonna happen when Sanji got the ball.
General Shino
09-06-2005, 02:45 PM
wait what was the Apis arc?
SeruraRenge
09-06-2005, 07:47 PM
I was just this little arc that was shown right before they got to Whiskey Peak. It is officially called the Warship Island Arc.
OtacontheOtaku
09-07-2005, 11:55 AM
The dub scares me. I also hate the fact that they always take out Kanji on the back of the jackets (Smoker, Mr.2). Apparently, 4kids beleives in protecting us from the "horrors" of being exposed to other cultures. Also, does anyone notice the flaw in their guns? I mean, they look like super soakers now, but they are still just as deadly. The only difference is that kids are stupid. Our parents take too much time protecting us.
*WARNING* I am about to go into ultra-mega-rant mode *WARNING*
For one thing, there's too much emphasis on safety and safety equipment: childproof medicine bottles, fireproof pajamas, child restraints, car seats, and helmets! Bicycle, baseball, skateboard, skooter helmets. Kids have to wear helmets now for everything but jerking off. Grown-ups have taken all the fun out of being a kid, just to save a few thousand lives. It's pathetic!
What's happened is, these baby boomers, these soft, fruity baby boomers, have raised an entire generation of soft, fruity kids who aren't even allowed to have hazardous toys, for Chrissakes! Hazardous toys, shit! Whatever happened to natural selection? Survival of the fittest? The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own. Simple stuff. Nature knows best!
And you'd be anxious and depressed too if you had to put up with pathetic, insecure, yuppie parents who enroll you in a college before you've even figured out which side of the playpen smells the worst and then fill you with Ritalin to get you in a mood they approve of, and drag you all over town in search of empty, meaningless structure: Little League, Cub Scouts, swimming, soccer, karate, piano, bagpipes, watercolors, witchcraft, glass blowing, and dildo practice. It's absurd!
*Shutting down rant mode*
Note: I did not think that all up myself. I got help from several professional ranters. Especially George Carlin.
I just have to say, George Carlin is one of the funniest fuckers to ever live. Anywho, I have to completely agree. Especially when it comes to the helmets, they protect kids from everything except the one thing they're most likely gonna hurt themselves.
Masaki
09-08-2005, 11:50 AM
It's time for the One Piece dub theme song... commentary!
Yo!
Ya yo ya yo! (trying to pass these off as lyrics?)
Dreamin'! (Wow, something that was an actual theme of the original! Something remains true to the original once every 100 episodes.)
Don't give it up Luffy! (Isn't he the one who tells everyone else not to give up?)
Dreamin'!
Don't give it up Zolo! (Zoro in the original never gave up. Zolo actually turns out to be a pansy.)
I'm dreamin'! (Yeah, I know.)
Don't give it up Nami! (Just wait 'til the Alabasta arc.)
Dreamin'!
(Were Usopp and Sanji in this, I'd say the following for:
Usopp: They cut out the scenes that he didn't give up;
Sanji: Do you know how many times he was rejected by Nami?)
Don't give it, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it-- No! (We heard you)
Here's how the story goes, we find out (Story?)
'Bout a treasure in the Grand Line, there's no doubt (Is it really there? I mean, Gold Roger was the only one to make it to the end. Maybe he lied, or maybe there is no treasure and he wanted world chaos, or both.)
The pirate whose eye is on it he'll sing: (Luffy doesn't sing this)
"I'll be king of the pirates! I'm gonna be king!" (It's only the first sentence, and a few words may have been taken out or added)
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go... uh oh! (Please do.)
His name is Luffy (That's Monkey D. Luffy!) (Introducing the characters already? 1st episode spoilers!)
He'll be the king of the pirates! (Last episode spoilers! Or perhaps it'll never happen.)
He's made of rubber! How did that happen? (I believe he explains this in episode one.)
Yo-ho-ho! He took a bite of Gum Gum (He actually ate the enire Gomu Gomu fruit)
Gotta go, gotta go (I told you you can.)
His name's Zolo, he's just like a samurai (And yet they took out the parts where Vivi calls "Mr. Bushido" and replaced it with "Mr. Swordsman.")
And a L-A-D-Y, Nami's not shy (Understatement of the year. What people will do just to rhyme... it's just a crime)
Usopp's doin' that marksman thing (But to you guys, he's the comedy relief. You cut out the Apis Arc and the episode with Daddy the Father, which are some of the few times that he shows real marksmanship.)
And Sanji's cookin' for the would-be king! (He actually cooks for Nami, Vivi, and Robin. He doesn't give a crap for the others and gives them the worse stuff.)
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go... uh oh! (This is your last chance... go...)
Set sail for One Piece! (Don't. Luffy'll kick your ass on the way)
It's the name of the treasure in the Grand Line (Really? By the way you had Gold Roger say "I left everything I own in One Piece" I thought it was a place, not a treasure)
Gotta go, gotta go (*chases them*)
Set sail for One Piece! (Do whatever, just get out of my face!)
english subbed : In episode 146 buggy is talking about blackbeard and ace says something like " oh you that old man"
germand dub: the same conversation but ace is says " oh you know my dad"
I just say LOL ???!!
Jack Bauer
09-08-2005, 04:06 PM
The one thing I FUCKING HATE about this dub is how the gave one of the greatest anime characters ever...
wait for it....
AN AUSTRAILAIN ACCENT!!! AND IT SUCKS! :mad
Masaki
09-08-2005, 08:26 PM
The one thing I FUCKING HATE about this dub is how the gave one of the greatest anime characters ever...
wait for it....
AN AUSTRAILAIN ACCENT!!! AND IT SUCKS! :mad
Which character?
Jack Bauer
09-08-2005, 09:00 PM
Shanks Luffy's idol
Megaharrison
09-08-2005, 09:28 PM
I was never a fan of One Piece, and I've seen up to episode 126, but I've found it amusing how the dub skipped 3 manga arcs recently.
Considering how much they are censoring One Piece, I just can't wait what they do when Luffy fights (or more importantly, beaten to a pulp early on in the battle) by Crocodile.
I mean, Luffy nearly freakin dies the first time he faced Crocodile!
kumagoro_usagi
09-09-2005, 01:15 PM
Can you guys list all the arcs (in order) of the One piece timeline? Pweetty please :wtf
Masaki
09-09-2005, 03:12 PM
Considering how much they are censoring One Piece, I just can't wait what they do when Luffy fights (or more importantly, beaten to a pulp early on in the battle) by Crocodile.
I mean, Luffy nearly freakin dies the first time he faced Crocodile!
Think about the final fight. What are they going to do about the blood on Luffy's arms?
And to usagi:
Enter Luffy and Zoro (right name for it?), Buggy, Kuro, Baratie/Don Krieg, Arlong, Little Buggy's Big Adventure mini-arc, Loguetown, Apis Arc, Laboon/Whiskey Peak, Coby and Helmeppo mini-arc, Little Garden, Drum Island, Alabasta, Sky Island, G8, and Water 7. (I don't even know what the last two are...)
Black Swan
09-09-2005, 04:14 PM
The one piece dub is truly horrible, i just saw a couple of episodes on toonami and on fox last week for the first time and the voice actiing almost made me hurl, and the censorship was to heavy i dont think funimation censored dbz as much. That will will be the first three and last dub episodes of one piece i will ever see. 4kids really are anime butchers, they should just stick to dubbing series like pokemon and leave action sereis to some other company.
SeruraRenge
09-09-2005, 05:38 PM
It's time for the One Piece dub theme song... commentary!
Yo!
Ya yo ya yo! (trying to pass these off as lyrics?)
Dreamin'! (Wow, something that was an actual theme of the original! Something remains true to the original once every 100 episodes.)
Don't give it up Luffy! (Isn't he the one who tells everyone else not to give up?)
Dreamin'!
Don't give it up Zolo! (Zoro in the original never gave up. Zolo actually turns out to be a pansy.)
I'm dreamin'! (Yeah, I know.)
Don't give it up Nami! (Just wait 'til the Alabasta arc.)
Dreamin'!
(Were Usopp and Sanji in this, I'd say the following for:
Usopp: They cut out the scenes that he didn't give up;
Sanji: Do you know how many times he was rejected by Nami?)
Don't give it, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it-- No! (We heard you)
Here's how the story goes, we find out (Story?)
'Bout a treasure in the Grand Line, there's no doubt (Is it really there? I mean, Gold Roger was the only one to make it to the end. Maybe he lied, or maybe there is no treasure and he wanted world chaos, or both.)
The pirate whose eye is on it he'll sing: (Luffy doesn't sing this)
"I'll be king of the pirates! I'm gonna be king!" (It's only the first sentence, and a few words may have been taken out or added)
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go... uh oh! (Please do.)
His name is Luffy (That's Monkey D. Luffy!) (Introducing the characters already? 1st episode spoilers!)
He'll be the king of the pirates! (Last episode spoilers! Or perhaps it'll never happen.)
He's made of rubber! How did that happen? (I believe he explains this in episode one.)
Yo-ho-ho! He took a bite of Gum Gum (He actually ate the enire Gomu Gomu fruit)
Gotta go, gotta go (I told you you can.)
His name's Zolo, he's just like a samurai (And yet they took out the parts where Vivi calls "Mr. Bushido" and replaced it with "Mr. Swordsman.")
And a L-A-D-Y, Nami's not shy (Understatement of the year. What people will do just to rhyme... it's just a crime)
Usopp's doin' that marksman thing (But to you guys, he's the comedy relief. You cut out the Apis Arc and the episode with Daddy the Father, which are some of the few times that he shows real marksmanship.)
And Sanji's cookin' for the would-be king! (He actually cooks for Nami, Vivi, and Robin. He doesn't give a crap for the others and gives them the worse stuff.)
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go... uh oh! (This is your last chance... go...)
Set sail for One Piece! (Don't. Luffy'll kick your ass on the way)
It's the name of the treasure in the Grand Line (Really? By the way you had Gold Roger say "I left everything I own in One Piece" I thought it was a place, not a treasure)
Gotta go, gotta go (*chases them*)
Set sail for One Piece! (Do whatever, just get out of my face!)
Congradulations! You made me read it, and yet laugh my ass off from yur comments. Rep for you!
Masaki
09-09-2005, 06:38 PM
The one piece dub is truly horrible, i just saw a couple of episodes on toonami and on fox last week for the first time and the voice actiing almost made me hurl, and the censorship was to heavy i dont think funimation censored dbz as much. That will will be the first three and last dub episodes of one piece i will ever see. 4kids really are anime butchers, they should just stick to dubbing series like pokemon and leave action sereis to some other company.
Actually, as I remember, there were quite a few slap-stick scenes in Pokemon's dub, such as Meowth scratching Jessie and James when they were being stupid, or in the first episode where Ash was constantly being shocked by Pikachu.
Scenes like this are gone in One Piece, no matter how meaningful. Like when Nami said she wanted to be adopted by someone rich instead of Belemere, and Belemere slaps her. This scene was replaced with a scene on arguing over Nami's bed time, no slapping at all. Also, Luffy didn't hit Coby in the first episode, and to make sure people think he didn't hit Coby, Luffy even said he wasn't going to hit him. Despite all of the claw marks Meowth has left in the faces of his comrades in the past, a number of bruises, cuts, and scratches were cut out.
You also forgot that comedy and drama were also cut out.
Amatsu
09-10-2005, 07:47 AM
Humor post
What REALLY happens at the casino in the dub!
Luffy: What'll we do?! WE'RE DOOMED!
(a few seconds later. Standing outside the destroyed Casino)
Luffy: WOW! That was such a great escape!
Zolo: I liked the part with the robot ninja's...
Sanji: 'ey guys I wuz lookin' fer ya
Nami: Hey what happened to that Chaser guy?
Ussop: Hyuk! Don't worry guys I saved him!
Luffy: WOAH! Where'd you come from Ussop?
Ussop: Yuk, yuk, yuk! That doesn't matter! We have to help Vivi save Alabasta before everyone hurts each other!
Chopper: ::jumps on screen:: LOVE ME!
Narrator: OMG WILL THEY SAVE VIVI IN TIME?! FIND OUT ON THE NEXT PIECE OF ONE PIECE!
You know that barrel of water Luffy get's that saves him from Crocodile? He won't get it when he's supposed too. Instead he'll get it from Chaser.
Chaser: Here Luffy... take this POWER JUICE! It's the only thing that will stop Crocodile.
Luffy: ::dub laugh:: I don't know what you're talking about Mr. Chaser but ok!
Crocodile: ::suddenly appears from out of nowhere:: So yer that Luffy guy! I'll show you that you can't defeat me! ::stabs his hook through the barrel::
Luffy: OH NO MY POWER JUICE!
Crocodile: Now you'll never be able to defeat me! ::laughs and throws Luffy into the whirlpool of sand::
This is how the Alabasta fights will go.
::The straw hat's minus Luffy get ready to fight their opponents::
(A few seconds later)
::The straw hat's are all together running down the street towards the square::
Chopper: Wow that was the most amazingest fight EVER! I'M SO ADORABLE!
Ussop: Yuk Yuk Yuk! I know Chopper! THey'll think twice before messing with us again!
Zolo: Man I'm still pissed off that my OTHER favorite shirt got ripped!
Sanji: Quit yer blubberin' Zolo. There are more important things to worry over. I'm just glad I could make that ballerina fruitcake pay for imitating my Nami!
Nami: Quiet all of you! I just fought my hardest for Vivi and if we don't save her in time I'll make you all regret it!
Zolo: But my shirt is ruined! T_T
Masaki
09-10-2005, 12:48 PM
Humor post
What REALLY happens at the casino in the dub!
Luffy: What'll we do?! WE'RE DOOMED!
(a few seconds later. Standing outside the destroyed Casino)
Luffy: WOW! That was such a great escape!
Zolo: I liked the part with the robot ninja's...
Sanji: 'ey guys I wuz lookin' fer ya
Nami: Hey what happened to that Chaser guy?
Ussop: Hyuk! Don't worry guys I saved him!
Luffy: WOAH! Where'd you come from Ussop?
Ussop: Yuk, yuk, yuk! That doesn't matter! We have to help Vivi save Alabasta before everyone hurts each other!
Chopper: ::jumps on screen:: LOVE ME!
Narrator: OMG WILL THEY SAVE VIVI IN TIME?! FIND OUT ON THE NEXT PIECE OF ONE PIECE!
You know that barrel of water Luffy get's that saves him from Crocodile? He won't get it when he's supposed too. Instead he'll get it from Chaser.
Chaser: Here Luffy... take this POWER JUICE! It's the only thing that will stop Crocodile.
Luffy: ::dub laugh:: I don't know what you're talking about Mr. Chaser but ok!
Crocodile: ::suddenly appears from out of nowhere:: So yer that Luffy guy! I'll show you that you can't defeat me! ::stabs his hook through the barrel::
Luffy: OH NO MY POWER JUICE!
Crocodile: Now you'll never be able to defeat me! ::laughs and throws Luffy into the whirlpool of sand::
This is how the Alabasta fights will go.
::The straw hat's minus Luffy get ready to fight their opponents::
(A few seconds later)
::The straw hat's are all together running down the street towards the square::
Chopper: Wow that was the most amazingest fight EVER! I'M SO ADORABLE!
Ussop: Yuk Yuk Yuk! I know Chopper! THey'll think twice before messing with us again!
Zolo: Man I'm still pissed off that my OTHER favorite shirt got ripped!
Sanji: Quit yer blubberin' Zolo. There are more important things to worry over. I'm just glad I could make that ballerina fruitcake pay for imitating my Nami!
Nami: Quiet all of you! I just fought my hardest for Vivi and if we don't save her in time I'll make you all regret it!
Zolo: But my shirt is ruined! T_T
You're wrong on only one thing:
The power juice will be used during the last fight, if it's even there.
Amatsu
09-10-2005, 06:33 PM
Nah it'll be during the second fight cause you see Luffy will turn into POWER JUICE LUFFY!
the third fight he'll be all "ZOMG I CAN HIT YOU BECAUSE OF MY SWEAT!"
SeruraRenge
09-11-2005, 05:43 AM
Nah it'll be during the second fight cause you see Luffy will turn into POWER JUICE LUFFY!
the third fight he'll be all "ZOMG I CAN HIT YOU BECAUSE OF MY SWEAT!"
NO, sweat is too violent for 4kids. Let's just say that he had some Power Juice smeared on his hands!
Amatsu
09-11-2005, 04:50 PM
YES! Because it couldn't be mud because mud is too dirty and soccer mom's won't like that!
And when Luffy fights with power juice all over himself Chaser will suddenly appear in Luffy's mind and say "Use the juice Luffy"
Throes
09-11-2005, 05:00 PM
And when Luffy fights with power juice all over himself Chaser will suddenly appear in Luffy's mind and say "Use the juice Luffy"
:laugh
"Luffy, I am your father. Search your feelings, you know it to be true! Use the juice, join me and together we will destroy the Croc, and find One Piece, and be the Kings of the Pirates as father and son!"
It'll totally happen like that!:whoo
Amatsu
09-11-2005, 05:09 PM
:laugh
"Luffy, I am your father. Search your feelings, you know it to be true! Use the juice, join me and together we will destroy the Croc, and find One Piece, and be the Kings of the Pirates as father and son!"
It'll totally happen like that!:whoo
Except that's what Croc would say...
Chaser would be more like Obi-Wan :laugh
Meanwhile Zolo is still crying over the fact that his other favorite shirt was ripped.
Ginjirou
09-13-2005, 10:47 PM
I just started watching the very bad hk subs of one piece to appease me, and I noticed all the garbage they threw end there. I can't not for the life of me understand why they took the soul out of the cartoon. However, they are going to pay for it. I hear the show isn't doing as well as expected. Hopefully 4kids will realize you can't make a "pokemon" whenever you want to.
Masaki
10-15-2005, 01:57 AM
The site mentioned in my first post has been updated. Though no picture was posted, the Drum Island mountain climb scene was indeed ruined.
On an interesting note, they didn't change Alvidia's voice after she ate a Devil's Fruit, but they change Chopper's voice when he uses Heavy Point.
organizedcrime
10-16-2005, 09:30 AM
OH NO MY POWER JUICE!
:rofl :rofl
Masaki
10-16-2005, 10:16 AM
I mentioned Power Juice to people on a chat room yesterday.
I went on about it.
But 5 bucks says it'll happen. Or there will just be a plothole during the fight against Crocodile.
SeruraRenge
10-17-2005, 01:37 AM
Strangely, I think something like that will happen. I mean, after the whole suction-cup bullshit, anything is possible!
organizedcrime
10-17-2005, 05:09 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if Croc had a vacuum cleaner, and Eneru is considered the "King" of Skypiea.
Masaki
10-17-2005, 09:19 PM
Yeah, calling him King would kind of get rid of the entire Zues stuff...
SeruraRenge
10-18-2005, 09:09 PM
Yeah, calling him King would kind of get rid of the entire Zues stuff...
I think he's supposed to be an eastern god, since he has the stretched Buddha ears, along with the fact that Enel was the name of an...I think it was a Persian god or sumthin.
organizedcrime
10-19-2005, 06:47 PM
I thought his name was Eneru, not Enel. :oh
Amatsu
10-19-2005, 11:27 PM
here's my theory
the straw hat's use the knock up stream to get to the DAVY BACK FIGHT!
ZOMG MAJOR ARC SKIPPAGE!!111
Masaki
10-19-2005, 11:30 PM
I thought his name was Eneru, not Enel. :oh
Well, according to One Piece Grand Battle: Rush, it's Enel.
SeruraRenge
10-22-2005, 01:41 AM
Well, according to One Piece Grand Battle: Rush, it's Enel.
Also, in Japanese, there is no letter "L", so the closest thing is a combination of "ru". A good example is Aruphose Eruic from FMA. It sounds like an L, but they're saying "ru".
here's my theory
the straw hat's use the knock up stream to get to the DAVY BACK FIGHT!
ZOMG MAJOR ARC SKIPPAGE!!111
I'm gonna write a bazillion pieces of hate mail if that happens:mad
Giant Enemy Crab
11-06-2005, 11:04 AM
I refer to this for all 4kids has done: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145
I love the Star Wars one.
Kimi Sama
11-07-2005, 06:01 PM
I've seen a couple of eps on tv, and was so appalled I havent watched it since. I've heard about the edits they've done though, and... *engages rant mode*
I cant believe they skipped the ENTIRE of Little Garden!
I mean, seriously, why? It's possibly one of the more kid friendly parts of the series! Yeah, the giants are fighting, but so what? Kids know about fairy tale giants, and they know giants like to fight. The fighting isnt even that violent (no blood till much later on, so no editing required).
That also means no Mr 3, and no Sanji finding out about Croc and getting the Post for the next place.
What the fuck are they gonna do about Mr 3 when he appears later on, inside the Bananadile? He's the reason they escaped, surely they cant edit him out.
Theres also the fact that this arc provided alot of character growth for Usopp, but I suppose character growth is a foreign word for 4kids so I'm not suprised they dont care.
I also heard they made it so Laboon the wale is... an iceberg. What? Why?!
If they carry on this way theres no fucking way they're gonna be able to finish off the series. Alubasta is really serious at times, especiously with all the politics. God only knows what they'll do about Jaya and Skypeia...
Oh also, I havnt seen any screen caps, but since they changed Sanji's cig into a lolipop, me and my girlfriend (newly converted rabid OP fan) were wondering how they got around Smoker having two massive cigars in his mouth at all times. Any one fill me in?
Hitomi_No_Ryu
11-07-2005, 07:08 PM
Do you know what's the REAL scary part about the One Piece dub?
Before a show is aired on TV (at least in the US), the company usually uses test audiences to watch the show and later give feedbacks. If the feedbacks are bad, the show never airs. If its good, the show does airs.
That meant that there were people out there who had the power to stop the One Piece dub from seeing the light of day...and didn't use it!!
WHAT THE #$%! WERE THEY THINKING?!
Masaki
11-07-2005, 07:30 PM
Well, Hitomi, the first few episodes, though horrible, didn't have massive important changes. The changes that really started to make a difference started at the Don Krieg arc, but there were massive amounts of them at the Arlong arc. Also, they had shown a dubbed version of We Are somewhere, forgot where, but then used the rap shit instead.
Smoker's name was changed to Chaser. His cigars were removed. Random smoke comes out of his mouth, which can be assumed to be his powers. His attack names don't have the word "white" anymore, but do have "smoke". Ironic, huh?
They'll probably have Mr. 3 fail some other mission, but that still wouldn't show how they know about his powers.
Hitomi_No_Ryu
11-07-2005, 07:46 PM
But it still doesn't change the fact that the public missed an opportunity to stop the dub from airing...
Jack Bauer
11-07-2005, 08:15 PM
What also makes me mad is how the company is still ruining the series and I bet the got alot of complaint letters.
Kimi Sama
11-07-2005, 09:37 PM
changes that really started to make a difference started at the Don Krieg arc, but there were massive amounts of them at the Arlong arc. Also, they had shown a dubbed version of We Are somewhere, forgot where, but then used the rap shit instead.
God how I hate that rap theme tune. How on earth did they figure pirates and rap are a good combo?
Also as regards to Arlong... I hear they made it so that Bellemere didnt get killed in front of Nami, she got "sent to a dungeon". I wasnt expecting them to show a violent execution, but they could have at least had her dying off camera or something.
Also I heard that bit with Nami "stabbing" Usopp (aka, stabbing her hand) was changed so that she got a rubber knife and told him to pretend to be dead. Where the hells the drama in that damnit?!
Smoker's name was changed to Chaser. His cigars were removed. Random smoke comes out of his mouth, which can be assumed to be his powers. His attack names don't have the word "white" anymore, but do have "smoke". Ironic, huh?
Chaser? Thats lame... Although "Smoker" isnt the best name in the world either of course. And indeed it is random that they got rid of smoke in his name and his cigars, but actualy changed his attacks to be "smoke".
Christ, they really set their work out for them by waging war on smoking, especialy since he has cigars at all times. We predicted that he liked candy and had big bits of chocolate in his mouth all the time:tem
They'll probably have Mr. 3 fail some other mission, but that still wouldn't show how they know about his powers.
They'll probably have it so that he tells them his powers or something.
Heh, I wonder what they did about Whiskey Peak, when everyone got wasted? Or do people fall asleep from too much... apple juice?
I'm also wondering how on earth they will manage Drum, since Hiluruk really REALLY needs to be dead for any of it to make sense. And what about Chess' big bow? There needs to be arrows stuck in Dalton too. Suction cup arrows?
*dies*
One final grumble for now, I gotta say I hate every single voice I've heard. Luffy sounds like a 7 year old, it really doesnt suit him at all. I also cant imagine that voice working in the more dramatic scenes where he gets pissed off. He also doesnt have his great laugh any more. Usopp is just painful to hear. I suppose it kinda suits his personality, but even so it is an unpleasent assault on the senses to hear him speak. Nami's voice is likewiese horrendous, and worst of all is Sanji. Brooklyn. Sanji is meant to be cool and sophisticated, and instead they've made him sound like a New York Plumber with a bad cold.
I'll leave off by saying that for 4kids to have edited it SO much all the way through, it is clear that OP was never suitable for the audience they've tried to bring it to. They've tried to make something which is teen/adult into a show for 10 year olds. Since they cant get through a single episode without chopping it to pieces, they should have realised their mistake
Masaki
11-07-2005, 09:53 PM
God how I hate that rap theme tune. How on earth did they figure pirates and rap are a good combo?
Also as regards to Arlong... I hear they made it so that Bellemere didnt get killed in front of Nami, she got "sent to a dungeon". I wasnt expecting them to show a violent execution, but they could have at least had her dying off camera or something.
Also I heard that bit with Nami "stabbing" Usopp (aka, stabbing her hand) was changed so that she got a rubber knife and told him to pretend to be dead. Where the hells the drama in that damnit?!
True on both accounts. Bellemere's grave was still there, I think, so it may be assumed, though definitly not stated, that she died in the dungeon. And you are completely right on the Nami stab scene. I was unlucky to turn on the TV at that exact scene.
Drama? Music? Story? All of this is just illusion! According to 4Kids, anyway...
Chaser? Thats lame... Although "Smoker" isnt the best name in the world either of course. And indeed it is random that they got rid of smoke in his name and his cigars, but actualy changed his attacks to be "smoke".
Christ, they really set their work out for them by waging war on smoking, especialy since he has cigars at all times. We predicted that he liked candy and had big bits of chocolate in his mouth all the time:tem
They'll probably have it so that he tells them his powers or something.
Imagine if he always had Kit Kats... Then he'd say "Give me a break." every time he took one out. 4Kids would probably do something like this.
Heh, I wonder what they did about Whiskey Peak, when everyone got wasted? Or do people fall asleep from too much... apple juice?
I'm also wondering how on earth they will manage Drum, since Hiluruk really REALLY needs to be dead for any of it to make sense. And what about Chess' big bow? There needs to be arrows stuck in Dalton too. Suction cup arrows?
*dies*
It was grape juice, even though the barrel that Miss Monday threw had orange juice liquid instead of grape.
Plotholes never stopped them before.
His arrows are the same, but parts where Dalton is actually hit by them are cut, and they're not in his body.
One final grumble for now, I gotta say I hate every single voice I've heard. Luffy sounds like a 7 year old, it really doesnt suit him at all. I also cant imagine that voice working in the more dramatic scenes where he gets pissed off. He also doesnt have his great laugh any more. Usopp is just painful to hear. I suppose it kinda suits his personality, but even so it is an unpleasent assault on the senses to hear him speak. Nami's voice is likewiese horrendous, and worst of all is Sanji. Brooklyn. Sanji is meant to be cool and sophisticated, and instead they've made him sound like a New York Plumber with a bad cold.
I'll leave off by saying that for 4kids to have edited it SO much all the way through, it is clear that OP was never suitable for the audience they've tried to bring it to. They've tried to make something which is teen/adult into a show for 10 year olds. Since they cant get through a single episode without chopping it to pieces, they should have realised their mistake
Sadly, in my opinion, the best two voices, though still not all too great, are "Zolo" and "Chaser", though every other aspect of each was butchered. Buggy's voice just plain sucks, Alvidia's voice didn't change after eating the Devil's Fruit, so no surprises when she reveals who she is to Luffy. Chopper's voice does change, though I don't know how much, when he becomes big.
10? Try 6.
Kimi Sama
11-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Imagine if he always had Kit Kats... Then he'd say "Give me a break." every time he took one out. 4Kids would probably do something like this.
If taking his precious cigars and changing his name is the equivilent of killing Smoker, giving him a kit kat would be pissing on his grave. At least they didnt stoop that low... this time.
I can indeed imagine them doing that, though. They probably didnt think of it, they dont seem the brightest bunch.
Sadly, in my opinion, the best two voices, though still not all too great, are "Zolo" and "Chaser", though every other aspect of each was butchered.
"Zolo" didnt sound too bad actualy, other then the fact he sounded too old. Oh yeah they also did an ok job with Don Kreig and Gin. Seems their much better at villains then heros.
10? Try 6.
Ah yes thats more like it, my mistake. Even 10 year olds will find supersoakers and bloodless swordfights lame. Most 6 year olds too, come to that.
Kucheeky Badkuya
11-08-2005, 08:38 AM
Do you know what's the REAL scary part about the One Piece dub?
Before a show is aired on TV (at least in the US), the company usually uses test audiences to watch the show and later give feedbacks. If the feedbacks are bad, the show never airs. If its good, the show does airs.
That meant that there were people out there who had the power to stop the One Piece dub from seeing the light of day...and didn't use it!!
WHAT THE #$%! WERE THEY THINKING?!
Well, you have to keep inconsideration is that these viewers literall had no say on what can be chnage they were only given to show or not to show? Of course, they picked show or else a gizillion people would be pissed at them for not showing it. They lost both ways so, you can't blame them for being put in a lose lose situation. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Common sense.
Masaki
11-08-2005, 10:43 PM
But the question on everyone's mind now is: What will happen to Luffy vs Crocodile 3?
Tenrow
11-08-2005, 10:54 PM
But the question on everyone's mind now is: What will happen to Luffy vs Crocodile 3?
Most likely they replace all the blood and dirt with sweat or something. Either that or they're going to replace the entire ep. Those damn dirty Editors
Tenrow
11-08-2005, 10:58 PM
True on both accounts. Bellemere's grave was still there, I think, so it may be assumed, though definitly not stated, that she died in the dungeon. And you are completely right on the Nami stab scene. I was unlucky to turn on the TV at that exact scene.
Drama? Music? Story? All of this is just illusion! According to 4Kids, anyway...
Imagine if he always had Kit Kats... Then he'd say "Give me a break." every time he took one out. 4Kids would probably do something like this.
It was grape juice, even though the barrel that Miss Monday threw had orange juice liquid instead of grape.
Plotholes never stopped them before.
His arrows are the same, but parts where Dalton is actually hit by them are cut, and they're not in his body.
Sadly, in my opinion, the best two voices, though still not all too great, are "Zolo" and "Chaser", though every other aspect of each was butchered. Buggy's voice just plain sucks, Alvidia's voice didn't change after eating the Devil's Fruit, so no surprises when she reveals who she is to Luffy. Chopper's voice does change, though I don't know how much, when he becomes big.
10? Try 6.
For chopper i think his voice goes about 1/2 an octave lower when he uses heavy point. Not like 5.
Masaki
11-09-2005, 08:12 PM
For chopper i think his voice goes about 1/2 an octave lower when he uses heavy point. Not like 5.
Did you know they changed "point" to "boost"?
SeruraRenge
11-09-2005, 10:30 PM
The only voice I don't really mind is Zoro's, but that's mostly because I give his VA good credit for his work as Gattsu from Berserk (how exactly did 4kids get a hold of the VA of the most kickass anime character in history is beyond me). Still, like you have said, it's too old for Zoro. Good for Gattsu though. All he needed to do is scream, swear, and kill as him.
Hitomi_No_Ryu
11-10-2005, 10:42 AM
If you don't like it, don't watch it. Common sense.
That whole statement doesn't feel right when 4kids is not allowing any LEGAL distribution of a subtitled version of One Piece. Usually the choice in anime DVDs was 'Either watch the dub or the sub and see how you like it'. Having the choice for One Piece being 'Like the dub or don't like it at all' is very unfair to me. Sure I get the subs from K-F but the mainstream public will not waste that much trouble to watch an anime so they will never know how good One Piece is.
Masaki
11-10-2005, 05:55 PM
That whole statement doesn't feel right when 4kids is not allowing any LEGAL distribution of a subtitled version of One Piece. Usually the choice in anime DVDs was 'Either watch the dub or the sub and see how you like it'. Having the choice for One Piece being 'Like the dub or don't like it at all' is very unfair to me. Sure I get the subs from K-F but the mainstream public will not waste that much trouble to watch an anime so they will never know how good One Piece is.
And for anyone who says "Well, if they're uncut, then watch them", how long do you think you can watch One Piece with Sanji's and Usopp's dub voices without going absolutely crazy?
MegaGeek2005
12-29-2005, 09:13 PM
One Piece could have been one of those shows that truly surpassed all others in America. Then the absolute and total fucktards at 4Kids got their hands on it. I actually wouldn't be even half as pissed off as I am if they didn't promise to maintain the quality of their series in the future at last year's Otakon... before coming out and showing the absolute and total rape of this show. I actually think in it's original stages, the people at 4Kids may have actually tried to keep this promise, as they simply translated the first opening theme to English. I'm guessing one of the Amazing FOXtard Executives™ thought to their brilliant selves with a shit-eating grin "hey, you know what a pirate show needs? Hip hop, cause as you know, those kids today love the hip hop, especially that rising new star MCHammer - He's pretty popular right? Let's get him!". Then of course going by 4Kids even more brilliant logic, guns are of course very bad, so anyone who sees one is immediately going to go out and grab a 17th century style pistol to shoot up their school, cause who's gonna teach them it's wrong, their parents? No way, not when there's Yoga, Swinger Parties, and as much beer as those wacky parents can do out of a beer bong. It's funny, they get pregnant early, don't have a childhood, then re-live it when they can leave their kids in front of a TV show or video game... it's HILARIOUS...
God I hate American society.
Oh my God the american dub SUCKS SO BAD
I complained that they cut 10 minutes each ep over here in Germany
Compared to what you have to endure I have reallyne reason to complain since they left the blood ,the cigarettes(sp?)/cigars, the alcohol(sp?), guns, the character development and most the action in not to mention the apis & little garden. Also from what I can tell the inros 1 to 1 translations of the original jap intros.
If you you want to force them to make a better dub you have stop watching the dub. That´s how it worked over here.
my english sucks I hope you are able to understand any off it.
danielyang027
06-13-2006, 10:14 AM
It did? Oh well even if the dubs were better i'd rather watch the subs
Unrequited Silence
06-13-2006, 03:22 PM
Zoro uhh I mean Zolo's -___- voice is HORRIBLE...Thats all I have to say..4 kids sucks
Masaki
06-13-2006, 06:04 PM
How many old threads have been bumped today...?
RockLee
06-13-2006, 11:26 PM
daniel up there seems to be bent on performing Edo Tensei, even though it's a forbidden ninjutsu.
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