TT2 - R2M1 - Brandon Heat vs Darth

[nick1689]

TT2 - R2M1 - Brandon Heat vs Darth

1. Vote clearly on the victor. You must state a reason why you feel that team would win. Your vote is voided if: You don't have a reason stated, you have less than 100 posts (unless it is decided differently), and if you don't put I vote for: (Participant Name here) at the end of your post.

2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other person, then only that vote will count.

3. No filler abilities, none period.

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5. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST character's are in play. (eg Soi Fon and Yoruichi Shihōin will work well together) EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 366 AND BEFORE (this will be updated for each tournament hereafter).

6. There is no prep time. But your characters have unlimited time before a match where they can discuss strategy and share knowledge etc. But no actions may be taken before a match.

7. The Incharacter Rule:
Characters will do their best to follow a strategy. They will happily attack the enemy (even Pesche Guatiche and Dondochakka Bilstin will attack Neliel Tu Oderschvank if she is the enemy). Characters have no fear (Marechiyo Ōmaeda will not run away unless directed to). When left with nothing to do and no guidelines, characters will behave incharacter as they would do in the manga.

8. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.

9. A strategy cannot plan for things the characters have no knowledge of. For example, a team cannot plan for Zommari Leroux's Amor if no one on that players team has knowledge of it.

10. If both combatants have equal votes after 72 hours the match will be extended by 24 hours. If the winner of the match has not been determined after the 24 hour extension, the match will go into sudden death, next vote wins. If a single combatant hasn't posted his/her strategy within 48 hours of the match starting, they are disqualified for not supplying a strategy within reasonable a time for the match to be fairely debated. If both combatants haven't posted their strategy within 48 hours of the match starting they are both disqualified.

11. If combatant X has read combatant Y's strategy and posted a direct counter strategy, combatant X is disqualified for poor sportsmanship. Combatants are not allowed to read the others strategy until both strategies have been posted. It is recommended that the first strategy to be posted is in spoiler tags to avoid any accidental reading.

Location: Cirucci Thunderwitch's Room - Long

Refer to the Bleach Tournament Battledome Information Thread (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=520373) for details regarding rules and restrictions, character abilities, locations and starting distances


Brandon Heat
Ice Strikes Again

Tōshirō Hitsugaya (42)
Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio (16)
Aaroniero Arruruerie (6)
Findore Carias (6)
Rukia Kuchiki (6)

vs

Darth
Big Guy's Rerun

Hachigen Ushoda - 42
Sajin Komamura (Shikai) - 20
Allon - 12
Regenerating Hollow - 2

[Darth]

Touchiro indoors inside an indestructible room?

I'm likin.

[migukuni]

nice location :ho

[Brandon Heat]

Able to get higher ground, I love. :LOS

[Cthulhu-versailles]

winner should depend on strats since the teams are evenly matched for the most part.
-__- A stratgety prompting Allon basically solo's defintly won't work this time, Darth. :zaru

[Halcyon Days]

B.Heat's got the advan..slightly, well a little more than that depending on how ... Is used.

[Franky]

Darth wins. Cause then I don't look as bad.

Cause Hachi can block all your shits and keep ice at bay while Allon and co solo everything else.

GG.

[BlackSmoke]

I hope Darth attempts to use Hachi in a innovative new way....I was planning on using him for DB lol...

[Omaeda Takes It Alone]

This is troubling. Darth doesn't have a Bankai-level attacker and Dordonii doesn't have endurance feats.:pek I'd give BH the advantage because of how these things turn out.

I'm hoping to see good use of Hachi. Komamura seems to have decent compatibility with him.

[nick1689]

Dammit guys, post a strat. Youve got about 2hrs left

Dont make me DQ you


lol, if it's a double DQ, the winner of the tourney would be decided by mine and sajin's match

[Darth]

lol, no worries. I'll post my strat within the next two hours. :wink

[Franky]

1 hour to post strat... a-maz-ing~

[Darth]

still here. :hurr

[migukuni]

guess no one will post a strat

[Franky]

DARTH! PULL AN HxOP! DO IT!!!:argh

[Darth]

I'll post my strat 1 minute before the DQ. :hurr

lol if the power goes out. :lmao

[Franky]

Is it storming there or something?

[Darth]

No, but it's lebanon. The power goes out every three hours.

It's quite lame.

[Franky]

just time it then:lmao

[Darth]

Strat:

Well, since this is long distance and there's no LOS. I might as well take a luxurious start to this map.

My team will split up.

Hachi will stay well behind Allon.

Allon will go into Rage mode, and begin moving forward. Regen hollow will accompany him.

Sajin will move in an arc to get around the enemy. He'll mask his reitsu if he can.

Once Allon engages the enemy, I doubt he'll last long on his own, Komamura will attack the enemy from behind. The point of this tactic is to compress the enemy team. I doubt Sajin and Allon alone can defeat them, but they can at the very least force them close together for a moment.

Once the time is ripe, Hachi will create his Box Barrier (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/218/12/) to trap the enemy team. Once they're trapped, he'll augment the barrier with 5 extra barriers.

At which point, he'll open a gap in the barriers and let in Allon and Sajin.

In an enclosed space against 2 heavy hitters, I think my team has the advantage.

If he can, Hachi wll attempt to bind people inside the barrier as he's done in this scan (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/218/12/) to Ichigo. Granted, it didn't work well on Ichigo, but it'll definitely work against anyone on Brandon Heat's team aside from Touchiro.

Once every aside from Touchiro is dead, Hachi will down his barrier and begin chanting incantations for his Bakudo 99 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.09/09/).

Once he's bound, Allon and Sajin will simply beat him to a pulp.

Fin.

Seeing as it's about 5 AM in Florida at the moment, I doubt Brandon will be posting his strategy.

But if he does, good luck.

[nick1689]

He wont be posting his strat... lazy bastard. He should know SS is more important than uni study :pek

[Brandon Heat]

Knowledge
Hachigen Ushoda:None
Sajin Komamura (Shikai): None
Allon: None
Regenerating Hollow: None

Preparation
We know Hachigen is a vizard and will not take him lightly.

Strategy
Phase 1
Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia activates her shikai and uses Hakuren towards the direction of the enemy. She will continue to fire off Hakuren to cover the whole field with ice.

Findore Carias
Findore releases and fire off pressurized water blast towards the pillars, leaving pillars on my side. He will clear the line of sight for my team. Then he will fire water towards DADS.

Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Dordonii will release and use Giralda to control the water being released by Findore. Dordonii will send the water cyclones towards the enemy.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
Aaroniero will transform into Kaien Shiba and activate his shikai. He will create a water source for Hitsugaya.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will activate his bankai and take flight. He will control all the ice and water around him for his attacks. First he will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. He will then launch multiple ice dragons towards the enemy.

Phase 2
Note: My team will never move in closer towards the enemy.

Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia use Tsukishiro to freeze all the pillars. These pillars will be used to allow my team to gain a height advantage. From the ice pillars, Rukia will continue her onslaught of Hakuren. If she sees an enemy incoming, she will use Tsukishiro to stop their advancement.

Findore Carias and Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Both will continue their previous actions but on top of the ice pillars. A giant wind water tornado will be sent towards the enemy and will be used for Hitsugaya's attacks.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
He will advance on the enemy and use his water based attacks on the enemy.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will take all the ice and water in the area and use Sennen Hyourou at the enemy. If any enemies attempt to escape the prison, Hitsugaya will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. If the enemy attempts to blitz during this phase, Hitsugaya will continue to use his dragons to keep him at range.

Phase 3
If any enemy is still alive, my team will act IC.

What Ifs
Will be handled in rebuttals.

[nick1689]

haha lol

I retract my previous statement :lmao

[Brandon Heat]

I just woke up too. :zaru

[nick1689]

How early is it over there? Darth isnt going to be happy :lmao He probably posted a half assed strat thinking you were going to miss it, haha

[migukuni]

its the same strat as before BH :zaru

[Brandon Heat]

I know it is. I'm that confident it will work. :amuse

It was 6:30 A.M. when I woke up.

[migukuni]

you always wake up 6:30 am as i noticed too

[Brandon Heat]

You notice too many things. :pek

[migukuni]

dont tell me you dont like it :argh

[nick1689]

24hr-ish warning

[Darth]

OH MY GOD, 6 minutes before the deadline. Brandon, you're a two faced bastard. :pek

I WILL DEFEAT YOU!!!!

[Franky]

holy flying fuck:lmao

[Darth]

Knowledge
Hachigen Ushoda:None
Sajin Komamura (Shikai): None
Allon: None
Regenerating Hollow: None

Preparation
We know Hachigen is a vizard and will not take him lightly.

Strategy
Phase 1
Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia activates her shikai and uses Hakuren towards the direction of the enemy. She will continue to fire off Hakuren to cover the whole field with ice.

Findore Carias
Findore releases and fire off pressurized water blast towards the pillars, leaving pillars on my side. He will clear the line of sight for my team. Then he will fire water towards DADS.

Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Dordonii will release and use Giralda to control the water being released by Findore. Dordonii will send the water cyclones towards the enemy.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
Aaroniero will transform into Kaien Shiba and activate his shikai. He will create a water source for Hitsugaya.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will activate his bankai and take flight. He will control all the ice and water around him for his attacks. First he will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. He will then launch multiple ice dragons towards the enemy.

Phase 2
Note: My team will never move in closer towards the enemy.

Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia use Tsukishiro to freeze all the pillars. These pillars will be used to allow my team to gain a height advantage. From the ice pillars, Rukia will continue her onslaught of Hakuren. If she sees an enemy incoming, she will use Tsukishiro to stop their advancement.

Findore Carias and Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Both will continue their previous actions but on top of the ice pillars. A giant wind water tornado will be sent towards the enemy and will be used for Hitsugaya's attacks.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
He will advance on the enemy and use his water based attacks on the enemy.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will take all the ice and water in the area and use Sennen Hyourou at the enemy. If any enemies attempt to escape the prison, Hitsugaya will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. If the enemy attempts to blitz during this phase, Hitsugaya will continue to use his dragons to keep him at range.

Phase 3
If any enemy is still alive, my team will act IC.

What Ifs
Will be handled in rebuttals.

So, the entirety of your team except for Hitsugaya moves forward and gets caged by Hachi and beaten to a bloody pulp by Allon and Sajin.

A flying Hitsugaya is quite an easy target to hit for Hachi's bakudo 99. Once he's caught, I don't see him breaking out.

Your entire strategy is essentially a bunch of prep for Hitsugaya followed up with ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK and then some more ATTACK but with fancy lettering.

Not very innovative. :LOS

[Brandon Heat]

I know you hate me Darth. :LOS

Honestly, Hitsugaya with all the water and ice can solo your entire team.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Vote Brandon

Hitsugya with his bankai activated would completly destroy Koma and Allon even if they were fighting in an enclosed space. Allon would get oneshotted and frozen, and Koma doesn't have the speed feats to keep up and gets taken down after enough attacks.

Additionally, even assuming Hachi could cast the box barrier over Hitsugya, Brandon's strat means his group is all together and there is already alot of water/ice around. Hitsugya easily uses said water/ice and destroys the Duo even if Hachi could bind him from outside the barrier.

Hachi was not instructed to do anything really offense and so he's left IC to basically stall against whoever comes after him or use a binding Kido. As a result, Hachi will wear himself out sooner rather then later because of the 5-box layer he was forced to create.

In effect, Hitsugya basically solo's Darth's team.

[Darth]

I know you hate me Darth. :LOS

Honestly, Hitsugaya with all the water and ice can solo your entire team.

That's cause Hachi is terrible. :lmao
Vote Brandon

Hitsugya with his bankai activated would completly destroy Koma and Allon even if they were fighting in an enclosed space. Allon would get oneshotted and frozen, and Koma doesn't have the speed feats to keep up and gets taken down after enough attacks.

Additionally, even assuming Hachi could cast the box barrier over Hitsugya, Brandon's strat means his group is all together and there is already alot of water/ice around. Hitsugya easily uses said water/ice and destroys the Duo even if Hachi could bind him from outside the barrier.

Hachi was not instructed to do anything really offense and so he's left IC to basically stall against whoever comes after him or use a binding Kido. As a result, Hachi will wear himself out sooner rather then later because of the 5-box layer he was forced to create.

In effect, Hitsugya basically solo's Darth's team.

Allon, one shotted?

Perhaps not, but Touchiro would defeat him eventually. Don't forget Allon's regen. Physical attacks are meaningless to Allon.

Personally, I don't see Bankai Hitsu solo'ing Hachi and Sajin. But hey, it's your vote. And you seem to have a habit of voting against me. :zaru

[migukuni]

darth if allon is that strong he should go up the tier list

[Darth]

darth if allon is that strong he should go up the tier list

What do you think the purpose of this tournament is?

All I'm saying is that Allon survived being cut in half by Yamamoto.

Nobody else on the tier list can survive that. Essentially, you can chop him up all you like, but the only way to defeat him is to incinerate him, or throw him out of the battlefield.

[Franky]

Vote BH

Hitsugaya + Water is deadly. Very deadly. Why'd we move him down again?

At this point, I see Hitsugaya, believe it or not, soloing Darth's whole team. Why? Because he doesn't shield himself and gets covered in ice before fat fuck Hachi can capture BH's team, which I actually don't see happening.

And since when is it easier to bind an airborne target? In my eyes, that's harder. A LOT harder.

[nick1689]

All that ice and water flying straight at Allon will wreck him - he'll be frozen in one spot and taken apart, same with regen hollow.

And Im unsure if Hachi can just simply place a box around the enemy like that, why didnt he do something like that against Barry? Insteead he had to slowly build up a barrier around him. Maybe he can, but I doubt it would be pwoerful enoguh to contain BH's team

Basically, once Allon and regen hollow get taken, I see thing's going downhill for darth from there. Koma will likely get taken out fairly easily by Htsu, and Hachi will just be overwhelmed

Vote BH

[nick1689]

MATCH CLOSED

BH wins, and moves into the finals

[Darth]

woohoo.

didn't xpect to win honestly... congratz brandon. you beat my lol trial team and my 1/4 assed strat :wink

[nick1689]

Excuses excuses :LOS

[Franky]

1/4 assed? That'd be a bit... awkward...:argh

[Darth]

Excuses excuses :LOS

lol Hachi. The only 40 pointer that doesn't have a single offensive move.

All of his techs are binding and barriers.

lol stupid if you ask me. He should go down.

[Franky]

Hachi at 20. Who will support me?

[Sajin]

Hacchi stopped HIchigo with his sword together with all the other vizards, I don't know why people think he has Rukia level swordsmanship. I mean sure he's no Kenpachi but he should at least be on par with Mayuri.

The only problem I see with that is that he may not be able to bypass Hierro. Maybe we should make a rule that he can cut any Hierro when his enemy is binded.

[migukuni]

oh this ones over without me voting, or did i vote, omg i forgot

[Franky]

Well, I correct myself, I'll consider it more after school, but my only problem is Noi speed... scans?

[Darth]

I checked that scan.

Hachi's head was poking out. He didn't do shit. No sword or nuttin'

[Brandon Heat]

Hachi has too many strong binding techniques and barriers to be considered a 20 pointer.

[Sajin]

Well, I correct myself, I'll consider it more after school, but my only problem is Noi speed... scans?

Wrong match :zaru

He had Kenpachi level reflexes.

@Darth I'm 100% sure Hachi did use his sword there, do you have a link by any chance?

[nick1689]

He did have a sword darth, check again

[Brandon Heat]

His sword is beneath Shinji. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/216/16-17/)

[Darth]

He has no offensive techniques, and thus CANNOT be considered a 40 pointer.

[Darth]

His sword is beneath Shinji. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/216/16-17/)

That basically means that he has a zanpaktou. We still haven't seen a shikai or a bankai from him.

Hence, it means absolutely nothing.

I could give him a sharpened stick and people would treat him the same as though he had a sword.

Hachi has no offensive techs. Well technically, he does, but those are banned.

So lol @ 40 pointer with no offensive tech.

I relied on Sajin's shikai and Allon for both of these matches. Notice how Hachi did practically nothing?

[nick1689]

His bindings are too powerful. If you rush at Hachi, and get in his range, chanes are youll get binded up for the rest of the match. And since no one has knowledge on him, this happens every match

Bt we needa decide if we're giving him his mask, and some of his new techs. We'll have to discuss this more after the trial

[migukuni]

hachi's sword looks so puny in his hands

[Brandon Heat]

There is no way were going to give him his mask. Having the ability to close someone in a barrier and kill him in a couple of seconds is too broken.

Just bring him down a tier if people are complaining. If he wins the tournament, we will eventually just move him back up.

[Darth]

Can't see how anyone with no offensive moves is going to win a tournament at 36...

>.>

[Brandon Heat]

I bind you, you can't move at all. I win.

Honestly all you need is someone who can cause a distraction or keep the enemy busy while in Hachi's range.

[Sajin]

Get paired up with another 36-pointer. The only option I see, but IMO it'd be effective. Effective enough for me to consider using him.

[nick1689]

Hell no, Grimmjow/Noi + hachi is too powerful

It's possible to ban all his binding kido though, and only allow his barriers

[Sajin]

We can probably leave him at 42 if we allow him to pierce binded Arrancars' Hierro, no?

[Brandon Heat]

That would make him garbage and be forced down to the 20 point tier. Leave him at 42 tier. I will use him next tournament if I have to and show people he has offensive moves.

[Darth]

I'm telling you. Hachi at 40 is fail. I just used him. He's absolutely worthless in combat without a decent support character. and at 40, he won't get the support he needs.

[nick1689]

At 36 he gets too much support

We can make a thread jsut for him after the trial, and discuss everything

[migukuni]

hachi is a support character, leave him there, at 40 is too expensi

[Sajin]

To tell you the truth, everyone on the 42-point tier isn't much stronger than 36-point tier AND they can't get a support they need.

[Darth]

Brandon just proved it by having Hitsugaya solo my team.

Everyone just disregarded Hachi's techs like they weren't worth a penny.

[Brandon Heat]

Hitsugaya can rape with the support he gets at 42. I made that a fact.

[Darth]

You could have done the same thing without Dordonii and Findore really..

All you needed was Rukia and Aaroniero. Which you can still get for Touchiro even if you moved him up a tier. :oh

[nick1689]

Yeh hitsu needs to go up, BH proved that

[Sajin]

...I really dont think that's the case. IMO mine or Nick's team are way stronger because they just outnumber Hitsu.

[Brandon Heat]

Can't wait to face either of you and show you Hitsugaya's true strength. :amuse

Honestly with the right location and team, Hitsugaya can solo.

[BlackSmoke]

No, but it's lebanon. The power goes out every three hours.

It's quite lame.

Ah shit that's so cool!

Do you have McDonalds in lebanon? I love McDonalds. Ronald is my baby daddy :wink

Why didn't you think of using Hachi aggressively? albeit you would lose due to your approach with your support...but oh well...

Can I get a trial match with Hachi?

[Omaeda Takes It Alone]

Ah shit that's so cool!

Do you have McDonalds in lebanon? I love McDonalds. Ronald is my baby daddy :wink

Why didn't you think of using Hachi aggressively? albeit you would lose due to your approach with your support...but oh well...

Can I get a trial match with Hachi?

Gender pegged:LOS